Is Buying A New Jeep Wrangler Or Gladiator With A Manual Transmission A Good Idea?
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- Опубліковано 22 лип 2024
- Today I drive and review a manual transmission Jeep Gladiator!
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I have not bought an automatic in 25 years, just love a manual. These days it is getting difficult to find a manual. Younger guys I work with have no idea how to drive a manual. Thanks for posting.
It's basically an anti theft device at this point.
I’m 24 I had got my cdl recently and I learned how to drive a 10 speed for a few months before I tested out. Driving standards at my job all day now I want a car with a manual transmission. But you’re right, a lot of young guys wouldn’t know how to use these.
Been driving a Manual since I was 9 years old in monterrey Mexico it's vice-versa over there hard to find a car that is automatic. But starting to become more common in the newer vehicles..I taught my wife to drive Manual, she drives a Manual mustang gt that has become more of a street/strip car..and thinking of buying her a jeep but she wants another Manual and it is getting hard 2 find 1
@@xfactor445 I have a class A as well..when I got my cdl and did the driving test you have to double clutch during the test. But ain't double cluthed since I been driving trucks, floating gears all day and it's better for the transmission..I was OTR for 4 months just to get my feet wet,In those 4 months I saw 3/4 of the states..I came back home 4 way better pay and more home time, moving over size battery tanks 4 the oil field, befor that 13 years as a certified welder building battery tanks heater vessels,water separators for the oil field and structural Bridge work/ welding for the state of Texas..I worked on the LA RAMS stadium all the beams and foundation have my welding stamp ID # on them,when I was working for heirshfeld steel..stay safe on the road my friend
@@carlostrujillo3854 I’m local too man. That OTR is a rough lifestyle. Safe travels for you too bro.
"Do you really want to row the gears that much"? lol
Shifting gears is just "automatic" for those who drive manuals regularly, we don't even think about it. The pleasure of shifting, controlling the transmission, being a part of the machine, is so much more enjoyable than driving an automatic transmission vehicle.
Spot on man. Such a market of “save the manuals” but unless you working that third pedal everyday or have that sports car that you take out on the weekends…. Keep quiet .
Plus burnouts!!!!!!
Agree with you wholeheartedly. When done properly the enjoyment derived from it is akin to a "high".
I love manual transmission.. specially in maneuvering playing gas pedal (diesel engine )
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Manual transmission is also a great theft deterrent... Can't steal what you can't drive.
All you need to know is just enough to put it in neutral, and you can just roll the car away. And if you think people don't steal cars by rolling them away, you'd be very wrong lol
it's a common misconception. Sure, it will deter an opportunist joyrider, but there are organized chop shops that will have no issues breaking in and driving away with your manual Jeep and chop it up in a few hours.
@@TactileCoder Oh I get that. But I can tell you the number of times I've run into people my age or younger that don't know how to drive manual or people I actually know that have been victims of or had family members victims of attempted car jackings, only they were foiled because the would-be car jackers couldn't drive the car.
I joke with my wife and tell her I'm buying my daughter a car with a colum shifter so she don't know how 2 drive it, 🤣 old heads know wus up 🤣
@@carlostrujillo3854 Column shifter??? Damn, you as old a me! 😂😂😂
I've had mine 3 years and 46k miles with no issues. I absolutely love it, on and off road. It's been to Moab twice. No regrets.
I just wish they had a diesel model with a manual transmission.
swear
They don’t make the diesel you want anymore (bulletproof, 300k mile)
@@cycletexas9157Now you gotta fill up with blue piss just to get going
@@smurfy1543 what is this which you speak of
@uck9347Just making a snarky remark about having to use DEF, which is a fluid made primarily of urea and deionized water, required on diesel engines made in 2010+. Urea is a nitrogenous, metabolic compound commonly found in piss, and a popular brand of DEF is Blue DEF. Hence my remark: blue piss.
Additionally, the DEF emissions equipment (Federal level requirement) increases overall complexity, maintenance costs, and lowers reliability of your vehicle. Typically, DEF is refilled every 5-10k miles, but If you happen to run out of DEF while driving, your vehicle will go into a limp mode and limit you to like 5mph in the best cases. Some vehicles won't even let you start the car without DEF either.
Hooray for Liberals.
For people commenting that first gear is to short and as said in the video “pretty much useless” it’s pretty much we’re you want it to be for driving on the trail
I have been driving the manual gladiator for a year now and love it. It's kinda weird shifting though. You're absolutely right there's almost no 1st gear and I upshift at around 2500 rpm as the vehicle manual suggest.
When I drive my semi i start out in 3rd gear still has plenty of torque to pull a loaded trailer...no need for starting in first to go 4mph then needing second gear..but I know what you mean about low gear ratio..
What's your mileage with manual? How would it be as a highway Commuter?
Glad for the video. As an old timer (52) I am at a loss for some of the things this young fella says. “First gear is pretty much useless,” and then “this vehicle is not good for rock crawling, I’d pick the automatic for that. The manual is just not worth it.” Put it together, kid. Also good for hauling. All manual hauling vehicles fit first gear as a granny gear.
No hard feelings, and thanks for the video.
When you were talking about the pros and cons of the manual, I understand most are opinion. For a proper jeep I will say off roading in low range it's quite hard to stall a jeep. Last time I went wheeling I don't think I stalled any, doing some proper technical stuff. Something else to think about is that you're able to make the drivetrain do exactly what you want, rather than hoping the computer will down shift to the right gear, or give enough rpm for the obstacle. Not everything in life has to be the easiest. Learning a skill is rewarding. Driving a stick and rev matching is rewarding. Most people I talk to their excuse for not wanting a manual is because they need to use their phone. Why? Drive the Jeep. That new manual setup looks so smooth and comfortable. They've come a long way.
In my case,
I like it Manual Transmission ☺️👍
As s semi truck driver who has driven 18, 13 & 10 speeds. Just think of 1st gear as what we call a creeper gear. It’s just there to get you moving if you’re heavy loaded. Empty we usually start off in 2 or 3. In terms of a manual jeep the 1st gear is ideal for off-roading or if towing and need to get moving. I wouldn’t recommend starting off in 2nd though… unless you’re facing downhill and roll a bit to get speed up 1st. You’ll burn the clutch if towing and try to start off in 2nd especially on flat or uphill.
"Do you really want to row the gears that much?"
Yes, that's the fun of it, and it always shifts at the right time. Plus 1 fewer layer of software between the driver and drivetrain.
Got a Willys Sport Gladiator on order, with manual everything. Will be planning to keep it for quite a while.
Did you get the vehicle yet? If so, how do you like it? Is it your daily?
@@shudigg Yeah arrived in Nov, and for sure, it's pretty awesome, old school crank windows and all. The only thing I'll change later is changing the 3.73 gears to 4.10 or 4.56 to get a little more rpm on the highway. Otherwise I daily it, about 2000 miles so far.
@@justin________7477 thanks for the feedback and congrats
@@justin________7477 there’s one on the lot with manual and rollup windows also. Lol tempting me. Hows your now? Dos the base have a rear locker?
That engine sounds like it’s got some mods. My JL V6 is too damn quiet. I prefer to shift based on engine noise rather then having to watch the tach/speed.
I have a 2021 Gladiator Willys edition with a 6 speed. I absolutely love it. Only complaint I have is I find the shifter nob is very uncomfortable. Should be ergonomically redesigned.
Just ordered a 2021 jL wrangler manual transmission I look forward to receiving it & automatic was definitely never a choice
Did you get it yet? Would be nice to here your thoughts on the manual.
Just orders mine just like this one yesterday
@@moviefan4life166 I ordered one on July 4th and got it mid August. You can't find brand new manual transmissions on lots these day. It drives way better than my JK and I just absolutely love it. I would not drive anything else in this world but my wrangler. The JL manual is a dream!
General Parmenion. That’s so awesome! I’m so psyched for you! How does the gearing feel? Some folks have enjoyed regearing to get better use out of 5/6. I’ve never driven a jl manual yet, but you’re giving me some good confidence to just go for it!
This is a pretty good P.O.V video. Recently got the chance to test drive a JT Rubicon 6-spd. The thing that is jarring is how it just falls of the cliff going from 2nd to 3rd. Not the fault of transmission per se, but the gearing is bad for daily on-road use. You can clearly see that in the RPM drop in this video. Watch the shifts from 2nd to 3rd. Really wanted to get a Rubi manual, but I feel this is a real deal breaker.
That gets to 60mph way faster then my 1991 jeep Comanche. Using a manual off-roading is no problem.
There's a technical service bulletin on the steering gear boxes on the 2020 Gladiators and 2018-2020 Wranglers. They replace the steering gear box and update the software and that steering wander is cured. I had it done on mine and it's night and day different.
The 2021s should be good to go off the lot then?
Yup
The only auto car I’ve owned was my first in high school, a cutlass cruiser station wagon. Every car after that has been an stickAnd I’ve had a couple handfuls. Mostly used cars.
I learned how to drive a stick on a JK 4.0!! My life changed after that lol.
I’m about to get a 23 2door 3.6 with the 6 speed! I can’t wait
1st gear is set up for use offroad, Jeep clutches have always been pretty easy- even the old Compass & Patriot were a breeze.
Great reviews 👍 like always.
can you do a jeep gladiator manual transmission 4 WD offroad review of 4HI and 4LO WITHA 6 SPEED?
I don't think you took into account the fact that the manual transmission costs $2,000 less than the automatic.
or that it performs better in the snow
I wish The clutch had more feedback, and may be a heavier flywheel, Plus nowadays being a stick shift is a good anti-theft deterrent
I made the painful decision to trade in my automatic 2020 Tacoma for a manual 2021 Gladiator because the automatic just doesn’t give me the pleasure that a manual does. When I say “painful” it’s because the Tacoma checks all the boxes (even more so than the Gladiator) except for the most important one… fun to drive.
You can still get a manual Taco
In hind sight, if I was going to buy a Tacoma again I would buy a manual but I couldn’t justify going from one Tacoma to another just for that reason, especially since I bought an access cab for the 6’ bed and Toyota doesn’t make manual transmission access cabs as far as I know. And also, I’m a Jeep guy (I still have my ‘05 Wrangler, also a manual).
@@letsgorangers5264 We have similar tastes. I had a 2000 TJ manual transmission. I have a 2004 Rubicon auto that I've owned since new. And a 19 Tacoma TRD off-road. I drove a 1992 defender 90 today and that is really pushing me to make my next purchase a manual transmission. The defender was like driving a lawn mower with an enclosed top
@@tiderider did you buy the defender?
I want the manual, but it's unreliable w/ pressure plates, and Jeep de-tuning for heat instead of fixing it, makes me second guess
i'm saving up to buy the 2023 or 24 jeep wrangler high Altitude with the 3.6 v6 manual transmission with the one touch skye roof that i love.
I have always driven manual but I will say I have changed my mind as far as any serious offroading goes; the newer automatics with crawling mode are so much better in the really rough stuff. Yet I still prefer the manual in my daily driver Rubicon. I did switch out the shifter for the B&M kit from Holley. Shorter throw and more solid feedback because, IMO, the stock manual was too soft and the throw was too long. The JL already has a clutch that is way too soft IMO so the shift kit takes the edge off that a little.
Are you sure the manual is available with adaptive cruise 🤔 because the Jeep configurator says otherwise !
Then again I could be wrong 😯
OMG to those mountains! Is that Wyoming? So beautiful...
So, you’re saying get the manual if you want a manual and get the auto if you want an auto? Got it. Thx.
You do not have to hold the brake down to start only the clutch
Biggest downside to me is not having remote start option in manual. I live in New England where we have cold winters and hot summers. Remote starting is something I don’t want to go without.
You can get remote starts on a vehicle with a manual transmission, you just have to make sure the vehicle is left in neutral.
Yeah. Possible, but not recommended, for sure.
Yes,Best transmision
In philippines my grandfather have a military truck m35a2 i really really love manual transmission i love playing gas pedal before shifting low gear as a engine break.. what a music in my ears because of turbo diesel 😅😅
Beautiful jeep I like the flag on the back on the back of the jeep
Holding the button to start must be a stick shift thing. My Gladiator has an automatic, I press and release the button and it starts every time
I bet it's the manual as a brief reminder that you are starting it and should be in neutral.
Yes, I had an auto Gladiator before and a manual now. In auto, you just touch the start button. In manual, you have to hold it till it starts.
Manual Jeep you control it, Good job Ben
After driving and owning the 6Speed 2020 JLU for a year vs my 06 Jeep TJ, Mazda(Ford) B4000 a 4 Banger Toyota Taco and V6 Taco all manuals this clutch sucks. Dose not match up with the Penstar V6, seems to keep the engine under powered and the Pressure plate recall FCA created and refuses to replace transmissions has now passed the design failure onto Stellantis and they are attempting another bandaid on the mechanical failure that could result in catastrophic failure and or Jeep catching fire.
Do you think rehearing would help? I see some refer to less stalling and improved driving after going to 4.56, 4.88 or shorter. Aftermarket clutch seems pretty popular too.
Anything with a manual is good even a 1st gen Dodge Viper
good video ben
Good topic, Ben. Interesting traded at 6k miles.
I had another FCA vehicle with a manual, a 2013 Dodge Dart, where the transmission was built in Italy since it was a rebadged Fiat. It also had a long throw shifter, so curious if this is the same product.
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Uhhhhhhh very unlikely to be the same trans, considering the dart was fwd lol. All the jeep wranglers tend to have a long throw.
It is made in Japan by aisin
Comes down to personal preference I guess. I might get blasted for this but I prefer the TJ models in manual and JK/JL in auto. They’re a blast regardless tho!!
Literally sung the prayers of many🙌
Of course you buy a manual! More people should! If you don't know how to drive a manual then I don't know what to say. Only this truck and the Tacoma, kind of sad
Wouldn't have it any other way. And to the offroads who say auto is better. In 4Low the idle is so high it drives itself.
Great video Ben I think I’ll go with in automatic but I also like the manuals
Nice video but please define what "blipability" means??? thanks
Means when you hit the gas before a downshift to match the engine rpm to the road speed in the next lower gear. Some cars have really lazy throttle response and is annoying to match revs if you need a quick downshift like in traffic.
Ideally you would be in gear, push the clutch, put it in neutral, let the clutch up, blip the throttle to match the rpm to road speed then hit the clutch again and put it in the gear you desire. That puts the least wear on the synchros.
How does adaptive cruise work with the manual? Does it still brake despite being in gear? Or does it pull the clutch? Or does it just kinda expect you to downshift/pull the clutch yourself?
I have a manual Civic Hatchback with adaptive cruise control. It will brake like normal, but if your speed drops below 30mph the cruise control will disengage.
@@maestrojo That seems counter intuitive, if the car in front of you stops, you're gonna hit them unless you brake yourself, which defeats the purpose of letting it brake for you. I guess the car can't be expected to get all the way to a stop or accelerate without clutch-by-wire though... I suppose it's better than nothing though.
The push start could be held down at first to automatically start the car right away instead of pressing it the first time then hold it. The 1st gear in any regular car especially bigger vehicles like trucks, off-road SUVs, jeep gladiators etc are meant to start the initial movement of the vehicle, they are not meant to linger on or drive in higher rpm’s unless creeping through traffic. Look at manual 18 wheelers and watch how quickly that 1st to 2nd gear shift takes. This isn’t a race car.
Idk if its just me or what, but this jeep is the hardest manual car ive ever driven. The one ive been driving is my moms and shes had it for like a month and i iust cant figure it out. Its only the start the i cajt do but like i know its not me because ive driven other manuals and not had this issue like what am i doing wrong
It needs the eco diesel standard
No kidding. That would be elite
Jeeps manual transmission is actually very weak can not beet the eight speed automatic. I am a manual guy but Jeep has to upgrade their manual transmission it’s got to be tougher
What is blip'able
In Low Range, very rarely will it stall-out.
Why is it interesting that it has cruise control 🤔 my 2000 Honda CR-V manual transmission has cruise control. Just get the the speed you wanna go on the proper gear and hit the speed lock .... I use it all the time on road trips
Manual all the way!
I think you should test drive station wagons and mini vans for a living. LMAO
I think so!!!
I have not driven a manual in over 20 years. What is blip ability?
I drive a manual daily and I have no idea what blip ability is either 🧐
It's easy to blip when downshifting in my opinion. The throttle is pretty responsive
I had a 2019 wrangler manual 2 door and I regret selling it. Just ordered a 23 gladiator rubicon manual.
Towing? Fuel economy
The manual transmission on the gladiator is pretty cool
Yeah the steps are basically useless on these, not exactly sure why, but it's easier to not use them than it use to try and use them. If you do step up on them, you end up standing there for a moment thinking "how the hell am I going to get in now..."
After 34000 miles, my 2020 Jeep Gladiator 6 speed manuasl transmission failed, and dealership had to replace it 3 times due to defective Manual Transmissions (PS. manual transmissions are not covered by warranty or extended warranty)... 75 days in the shop. I will never buy a mopar manual transmission again. I have 40 years experience driving manual transmissions, and the mopar transmission is the first that failed that quickly.....
My manual gladiator was terrible. Had it for 6 months and traded it off. Mine was a base model.
You don’t know this, but you answer all my questions. Man I want one, talk me out of retirement.
I am the same way Vega. Finally a video made in 2021 showing the jepp manual. I go to pick up my Saraha in May and i am so excited. And now even more pumped up to get it.
@@dannycnoble it’s like I can make they payments, but I also want to retire 😂😂
I am still 15 -20 yrs from retirement. My girlfriend just paid off her car so now we can get me a new one.
@@dannycnoble Dave Ramsey has entered the chat
No Dave would say never buy a new car and crap like that. I was meaning i am still young enough i can get a new car now. And i take good care of my cars it will last awhile. I had a 96 caprice i bought new that lasted until 2017. I have a 2007 trailblazer i bought new that i still have. So i am going i have the same luck with the jeep.
I got a manual transmission keep n I love it!!!! Ppl can’t drive them so they like to talk smack about them
Yes! I love mine.
I don’t know man, I have been hearing about the manuals catching on fire for years on these things
I personally hate this transmission, it feels horrible to me, but maybe that's just me. I dunno. Clutch doesn't have enough precision, and I have never shifted into the wrong gear until I drove one of these. Hated it.
dude its a jeep.. in my perspective a jeep should never feel smooth or too fancy to drive.. it should feel jeepy and its so satisfying when you hear the mechanical sounds. love the manual transmission. they should make the gear stick even more bigger and little thinner on diameter so it feels more like the classic jeep.
Bro how is every one driving 20mph bruh I drive when it’s a traffic road 60mph my guys how
Just got my first Jeep and it’s manual !
manual transmission ❤️❤️❤️
Guy has no idea what he's talking about synchros. Most transmissions use the same synchros for all gears. The synchro speeds up or slows down the gear you're shifting into using friction. Rev matching reduces the work the synchro needs to do. Once it's in gear the synchro is not in use. So taking off in second gear is not a problem. It will put extra wear on the clutch if the gearing is not low enough.
It’s a jeep. It should be manual 😜
Next time Drop it from a 6th to 4th
Nice glasses
Of course it is. It's a jeep.
Recall?
man first 2 minutes in... i'm only watching just to watch. manuals have cruise controls too and way he chirped to second gear hahahha
The only way to make a gladiator acceptable to buy is with a manual, cause all the other truck guys cant say they “own the only manual American truck”
Been driving a manual for 30 years.. this is the worst manual transmission I’ve ever driven.. and i drove a car without synchromesh.. if you want a JL buy the automatic or get the bronco
Edit: should add the transmission itself is a rebranded Aisin and is a little notchy, but reliable. The issue is the clutch pedal assembly and the drive by wire.. the pedal assembly is plastic and over time groans and binds, the drive by wire has days of delay, not good for a manual. Also the on/off is on the clutch.. it’s annoying as all hell..
I like the Gladiator, but wish there was an option for a shorter bed.
There is. It's called a Wrangler. 😂
Didnt they get recalled for clutch fires?
Yes they did twice. But the guy made this video isn't going to say that because he wants advertising money from Chrysler and wants to also kiss the butt of the dealership he's using. These videos are so useless because they're so biased in a favorable way towards the dealership and the product they sell.
@JP Kabler....you whine too much. Just don't watch the video. I purchased this vehicle after I used my brain to make up my own mind.
@@holchr31 you were warned. I owned it for 2 years. It's a poorly mated transmission, period.
What 6 speed did they use
@@JohnKabler so the automatic is ok tho?
Needs a heavier flywheel, more fuel added at low rpm,more robust pressure plate assembly ,lower axle gear ratios,
He says automatic is better yet no one knows how to drive stick shift so if you don’t want it stolen go for a manual
I live my manual Gladiator OlllllllO #JTRSPARTACUS
1st gear is super low its like a granny gear.
Manual transmission is also more reliable than an automatic. Just don’t ride your clutch and you’ll get 200K to 300K miles out of the vehicle. 👍😎👍🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Automatic Jeeps are blasphemous!
Trany is fine, the Pentastar..not so much.
Men drive with 3 pedals
I do everyday I live in nyc... what’s your next excuse?
@@rickqueen2751 that’s cool, I don’t like automatic, to each their own
@@rickqueen2751 I have. Still want one. Plus it's less of an issue anyways with a lighter clutch feel and low 1st gear.
@@rickqueen2751 That's fair enough, this is my first Jeep/Chrysler, more familiar with GM and Ford gearboxes.
The Gladiator looks like a blast so I'm willing to jump out of my comfort zone with a Jeep/Chrysler/Stellantis/whatever.
Heel toe??? WTF?! I’m done.
Stopped the video when you said you cant heel-toe on it
Manual
Manual transmissions are not meant for todays 'touch pad' adventurers..
I drove an old 8 spd water truck for years with a 14" throw hard as hell clutch and
double clutching for every gear.. I get such a laugh at todays brave warriors..
Who heel toes in a jeep? Wtf. You're not racing
The new Bronco with the manual looks great.