“I love to be hated.” “I hate to be loved.” -That’s a lot of feelings for someone literally claiming they don’t care what others think or are claiming to be void of emotions, lol. What a attention seeker.
Eric Upton getting a positive reaction is attention, but getting a heated negative reaction is even more attention: meaning to him he is important & powerful = supply
He's not a psychopath. He's a paranoid narcissist that would likely be in a psych ward, if he hadn't lucked out and married a "mommy" to give him rules. I hope they're happy.
Lolz @ Lella Mack 😁 190 IQ. Follow him here on YT under his real name. Saw his face in the clip and knew immediately it was him? He definitely puts the diff in indifferent and can come off a bit Snobbish, but it seems he’s also learned to be more open and very honest about what he and his Narc SPECIES are and what they are NOT. Something most Narcissist aka Ogo’s refuse to do. They love being the PUZZLE no one has the Brains 🧠 to put together. 😎
@@girl123boy456 Interesting isn't it, by recognizing he is a narcissist he managed to attain what narcissists seek, importance. By being the only diagnosed narcissist who has expressed and published his view of himself and of narcissism, he is a unique insight into narcissism. So, by exposing himself, which most narcissists dread for fear of no longer being seen as unique and important, he actually achieved it.
Yes but there're quite a few people who exhibit this personality trait. That doesn't necessarily mean that they are a psycho or a narcissist, it's probably just part of their personality or a mental disorder perhaps. Things aren't always quite as clear cut as u think. Unless you know someone's situation full on, u can't really judge them simply because they exhibit certain behaviours u dislike.
@@anufajemisin4348 It's a spectrum. It's not simply a case of being a narcissist/psychopath or not being one. No shortage of people are moderately narcissistic, and even moderately psychopathic.
@@oldishandwoke-ish1181 Actually you can display narcissistic traits and not actually be diagnosed with NPD. The disorders overlap but are clearly defined according the the DSM
This guy is a narcissistic…it’s not a scam ..I dealt with a classic narcissist for years and he provides the truest insight in his talks. The way he interacts in this documentary just confirmed it for me. The only thing that perplexes me is his ability to self analyze…it’s incredible and I would say extremely rare and those of us who have suffered through a situation like this are lucky to have him because otherwise it would be difficult to get any true understanding since most narcissists will never admit there is something wrong with them since there is no one inside them how or what will they analyze. It’s just as he says.
Listen to HG Tudor. His insights are priceless. He is a psychopathic narcissist. I have learned so much from him explaining his kind. I'm getting the help I need to deal with the narc in my life and I couldn't be more grateful. Had no idea these people think the way they do about us victims. It's empowering.
The self analysis isn’t surprising. Not all of them lack cognitive ability to evaluate themselves, how else could they understand how to manipulate people? They know exactly who they are and exactly what they’re doing. The key is that they lack empathy, so they just don’t care!
@@MamaBear0823 covert narcissists have emapathy. They even are capable od regret although they quickly find an explanation for why it's all fault of someone else. They victimize themselves often. They need their ego intact. Grandiose narcissists on most cases don't even bother to do those things and their empathy levels are very low. But they know the feeling. The key is need of any narcissist to be valued or even worshiped. That's why they analyse.
I’m only halfway through this video but I find it fascinating because I am a fan of Sam. My father was a malignant narcissist and Sam’s content taught me a lot about my father , how to deal and how to not deal with my father , and ultimately how to let go of the fantasy of having a relationship with someone who is that mentally ill. My father has been dead for years but I still struggle with the things that he taught me as a child and the lies that he said about me and the things that he said to me live on in my mind. I struggle with the legacy of shame and hurt and incompetency that he told me , defined me. He was a screw and ruthless to me as Sam is to this film maker and he was my father so you can imagine the power of those words coming from the man who brought you to life. I ended up marrying a man who was somewhat narcissistic on a much lower level but still abnormal. And I have a history of men and women in my path , friends , coworkers, bosses that would rate very high on the narcissism scale because I was used to dealing with that type of personality, good and bad.
Jenn Memphis just remember that when the narcissist is throwing insults at you, he is really talking about himself. He is incapable of knowing you because he is self-absorbed. Whenever the narcissists in my life criticise me, I say "I'm sorry you feel that way". They try to set you off because it gives them a sense of power and control.
@@psalmsreader7997 Thanks. I don't have to anymore, he's dead. 3 years today actually. wow. but, yep, i've done tons of research to recognize the next one if that day comes! thank you! :)
Same as been for me... My father is alcoholic... my two relationships was with psychopaths... blessings sending your way... there was NPD coworker female... she bullied everyone.... these tricks do work for short term.... blessings sending your way... do ifs therapy
My mom's boyfriend is a psychopath. His eyes bore through you to your soul. It's very chilling how he can calmly just belittle you without even changing the tone of his voice. I still shudder on the rare occasions I see him.
@Ryan Have you pointed this out to your mom? If she's with such a person, maybe she would be better off in therapy. He could do her some serious harm one day. If they belittle you just remember the reason why they do it is because they feel small themselves. Why do you think they put on such a grandiose facade? To compensate for their smallness. And he wouldn't be pulling it on you unless he saw you as a threat.
Thank you Ryan, this is one of the few sensible comments herr. Phsycopaths are not amusing, they are dangerous to society, as stated in the film. And they drain the people they meet (like the filmmaker detailed). I am astonished that the audience does not understand what they see
Deep down she knows no matter what he really is, he is too selfish and self centered to have a child. For that I admire her even though she chooses to stay with him.
She’ll probably cave in to her own selfish desires. Human beings have been shooting out more victims for this world since the beginning of time. They justify it to themselves with optimistic delusions.
I met my now ex psychopathic narcissist ex (. as he only allowed me to meet his son once, as part of his control over me... even though one of his first promises was to for me to be part of his then five year old child. He knew I can’t can’t have children and I wanted to have one... but convinced me that it would interfere with our lifestyle) I was amazed at his then 8 year olds attitude, it let me feeling, that he might grow up to be just like his father... How sad.
Thank You ,Its Important ..I Hate when a Doc I think oh this is new and 20min or whatever in it Im going:Seen it ,Dam it .I see atleast 2 a day maybe more ,so its posible to forget
i knew he looked young. he is now gaining traction as one of preeminent experts on narcissism. so they decide to publish this documentary at a good time.
Thanks, was wondering how old this was. Follow him here on YT and his lectures are quite good and helpful. He drops tea ☕️ on Narcissistic Disorder like no Clinician I’ve watched to date. He actually looks better with his white hair. Narcs have been traumatizing the population for so long. So it’s interesting to hear from one of them, how they view themselves and do “THEY” think or even believe that there is indeed something askew with themselves, psychologically. 😎
People not always argue in their native language. It depends on the places where they are/live in and on many other factors. I speak more that one language, my native language is Romanian and I argue with my nephews in German, even if they speak excellently my native language, because they live there and it is more effective to do so.
I just found this doc *YEARS AFTER* watching Sam's UA-cam channel on narcissism... I can only say that his words were a truth that freed me from a toxic narcissist. It also helped me see ways of better advocating for myself as a whole. I'm not sure about his being a psychopath BUT he is definitely a very self insightful narcissist and his advice was invaluable to me at a time when I had no other information on what and more importantly *who* I was dealing with.
Do you think Sam arranged this documentary as a publicity stunt. Sam an actor as well? I saw this Documentary first before I knew about Sam a few months ago.
HG Tudor is the absolute best. His knowledge is helping me so much with the narc in my life. I have watched Sam, but I prefer to learn from HG. He is a diagnosed psychopathic narcissist, and it is so interesting to hear how they operate. He also has an extremely pleasant voice, so thats a bonus.
@@m.g5796 She misses the mark a lot though unfortunately. No one is a better teacher on this than HG Tudor. That I have found at least. I now have the tools to deal with the narcissist ruining my life
@@Elegant_Sausage My son just got married to a sociopath. Sam won't be able to help me here. Sam only talks narcissism which is a non-clinical term. Sometimes we all look at our own image from the reflection but in regards to really serious things Sam would have to prove himself to me.
Just the fact that he doesn't care that his fellow colleagues see that he never graduated, shows that he doesn't care about their opinion of him but that he uses it to prey on people who don't know the whole process of dissertation and publishing. I knew a woman who lied her whole life about getting pregnant before marriage. Althought the baby was born full term only a few months after she and the father married, she still told people her entire life that the baby was conceived after the wedding. Anyone can just do the math to know that she's lying. She's not even claiming the baby is premature, she's just flat out lying to your face. Really strange.
he technically has one, just no diploma. He did the dissertation and it was reviewed and put in the library of congress apparently, but did not complete the full 8 years, only 2.
If nobody paid attention to this guy, he wouldn’t feel so special. When I come across narcissistic personalities I’ve learned to turn on my heels and go the other way. I’m 2:20 into this and moving on to something worth my time.
The narcissism test was one visit and a standard exam, pretty fast for such a big diagnosis. That test showed low-grade narcissism, so he is still on the spectrum. Also, high avoidant, paranoid and schizophrenia, a combo often seen in mental illness and an inability to cope in an outpatient setting. He was also diagnosed with very strong psychopathy. His MRI showed low arousal = his couldn’t move his emotions up or down by thinking of sad or happy things. Low arousal is why they think psychopaths do such extreme things: actually trigger feelings. That’s why MRI is so helpful in diagnosis. Those results combined with his written test score resulted in a score of 18 out of 24. Disappointed to hear about the fake degree, yet that doesn’t totally invalidate his entire body of work. He is so extreme in where he will take his views (and verbalize then), he can make even a regular old narcissist cringe. That’s the psychopathy showing through. I wonder what his thesis was about 🧐
I'm not going to defend this guy, but Sam Vaknin and his videos are extremely insightful and more interesting than this video. He literally a self proclaimed and diagnosed malignant narcissist. I don't see it hard to believe him playing the role just to fill the narrative of this documentary. Just being honest to anyone who reads this.
Seeing the film maker's ritual cleansing after his short time with Sam brought back chilling memories after my (less than 1 year) relationship with a psychopath. I ended up having an 8 month long nervous breakdown after realizing I had been chosen, targeted, and repeatedly "raped by deception" by a complete fraud, a stranger, & a monster demon. I was bedridden, self-isolated, begging God to remove the filth left on me, and did hundreds of ritual cleansings & soul tie cord cutting exercises in meditation. Night terrors, shaking uncontrollably, couldn't get out of bed for longer than maybe an hour at a time, brain fog, could not let men look at me , fear of red trucks, left with PTSD... its taken nearly 5 years to heal the trauma (with counseling and meds). When you've been with one, there's no mistaking how evil they really are. His poor wife has Stokholm Syndrome.
As for his wife, Lydia.....I doubt she is madly in love with Sam...rather, she is like someone who has low selfesteem, feels like no one else would want her, etc. etc. . She is like many of my Clients who choose to 'tolerate' the horrible treatment of their narc partners.....until I work with them...and help them to actualise their own power.....
His wife has talked before a few times how she copes with him. She grew up with a narsasistic mother and pycopathic sister. She learned what to do with them. She has used these tricks with her husband all the time. Also said she is a very confident person and is happy. She is very much in charge of him.
Diagnosed psychopath here. The best way to diffuse the Narcissist’s arguing fuel is to stare at them continuously while they spew nonsense. Then, smile subtly and chuckle without saying anything, not taking the bait. This will frustrate them beyond words, where they will only want to escape the situation. Narcissists use emotional gaslighting games in an attempt to control and manipulate you. If you show no emotion and let them know you are above them and their games, you will crush whatever fabrication they’re standing on.
Sadly she found a demon possessed man. Demons of course can't love, never will be able and so won't be their hosts! Every not demon possessed person is capable of Love! Narcs need all to be exorcised! Here only GOD can help!
When Sam told the director to lay down and think about all the bad things he said about him and to figure out what was true, was the real serious torture. That could keep someone locked in their own head for a long time.
Now imagine similar words said by someone who spoke of love for you give mins before. Complete mindfuck. Breaking free is the only chance to find your way out of their darkness. They manipulate to trick someone into believing they have a beautiful light but in reality, it's your own reflection.
Thank you for this amazing documentation. It's a gift. Even if it's dark it brings in light in a dark room so we can see clearer. I recognise Sam's bullying and games in bad leaders I have, and he explains brilliantly how the brain shuts down in fear. That gives us an antidote, and we should be grateful for him showing us this. All we have is this, we must not give in to fear and shut down. We must see these people for who they are, and learn how to deal with them. I know now, that every time I get that feeling now around someone, I end the contact. Unfortunately many of them will be our boss.
@@fseesauras I honestly don't believe this guy is actually a psychopath, just an utter narcissist, and pretending to be a psychopath is just one of the manifestations of his narcissism.
Wow. This is eye opening. The PhD he waves as such a scrupulous and long hard earned title was nothing but something he bought after 2 years of composing a thesis? I was actually watching this guy and thinking he was the end all information bank and long standing 12+ year scholar on PDs and I'd been duped. Now I know. And god bless the documenter for really getting to the bottom of it and uncovering by having him self admit what low fruit he seems to be profiting from. This was a wealth to stumble upon. I thank the filmmaker for enduring that abuse for the sake of our learning.
Sam's understanding and the way he relates to the victims what has or is happening is superior. Sam brought us the language to express what we went through. I have spent 20 years with a malignant narcissists. I can't find anyone with a PhD in my area that can come close to helping me but Sam.
Eh, I don't think it takes anything away from his legacy. Even with partial PhD + 99th percentile IQ + self insight as an actual malignant narcissist he is one of the best lecturers on it. I'm not saying that would normally be the case, but in *his* case his depth of insight really is quite impressive, his "bench" is quite deep. I have not seen other clinicians or researchers that can perceive and communicate certain things about NPD in the ways he can. So he really is world class. But yea, I'm not surprised at all about the phd; narcissists cut corners abd exaggerate their accomplishments.
He literally said "they lie with purpose, they have a reason. Like they have a Ph.D in whatever field for the job they're going for" He said point blank they would do that, he is one. People weren't listening. Regardless, I do think this guy has narcissistic traits, even if he exaggerates them. Since most narcs don't seek help, I am happy to see a unique view into the mind of one. Edit: also if you notice he attacks the documentary guy about "his" credentials. I'm not a doctor, I can't speak on what the real reasoning is. However I feel like the image of extreme self love is more of a vanier. Deep down he has extreme feelings of inadequacy, that he covers up with extreme bluster and confidence. As he said "you're a threat to me" he's a threat because he reminds him of his OWN inadequacy, something that he desperately hides. He has no real credentials and bought his certificate. "You're not a real film maker, you have no real credentials, you don't know what youre talking about"
I score 36 on the psychology charts and this guy score low on psychopathy and high on attention seeker, he's playing a character to not be seen as the vulnerable man he really is.
Personal attack on the film maker, never argue with a psychopath, bcs they love to fight, stand firm to your choice, never show feelings, keep your cards close to your chest, always.
The range of error in personality test scores from an individual like Vaknin is vast. He knows exactly what each and every question and answer mean. Despite his diploma mill PhD, he really does know his stuff. He would excel on any oral or written test over the contents of the DSM.
Kenneth Bianchi, one of the Hollside Stranglers, and not a particularly bright guy, managed to con a psychiatrist into believing he had what was called at the time multiple personality disorder. I have had some professional dealings with psychopaths in the past, and the claims in these comment threads by individuals claiming to be psychopaths are quaint. It's become one of those disorders that is attractive for people to lay claim to on social media, because it's claimants feel powerful in doing so. The reality is that a psychopath can be dangerous in various ways, but is at root a self centered, peevish child who is tiresome to be around.
It's interesting because I've seen some official primary psychopaths online disprove that Sam Vaknin is one and the best evidence against him being one is at this time stamp 39:09 . The documentary suggests that he showed cold emotion within the brain scans but that's not the result that was being displayed. Like his wife, he was showing the normal range of emotions and only flatlines later. This implies he can feel empathy but picks and chooses when to be callous which is otherwise beyond a Psychopath's capability as their brain wiring would disallow them from feeling empathy at all. In fact, the documentary skims over this detail but suggests that when Sam was placed into MRI, he started off badly and so he was given more than one chance (Likely because he was showing normal emotional responses in those instances).
I’m not sure how valid those questionnaires are when you are familiar with them, you have a high IQ and are looking for a certain outcome. I think this would go some way to invalidating the results.
You’re absolutely right. I remember when I was being evaluated to get diagnosed for ADD, I too had to fill in a questionnaire. And I don’t have a high IQ but it was SO easy to just seek out the answers that’ll get you a diagnosis and the one’s that don’t. So I’m pretty sure he as wered those questions to his own benefit
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If you are high intelligent and also know about psychology and this questions, you can fool with the questionair and clinical psychologist. This psychologist was also not very clever and insightful, knowledgeable, wise abd so on. So, they can not make even a correct assesment of some one. Especially not when dealing with a high functioning psychopath, who is more intelligent then her and more prone to just lie.
@@godofdogs6198 This is untrue. Psychopaths have emotions, they're not numb to them either. The numb to emotions ones are those with schizoid PD and they're also disconnected due to indifference and lack of enjoyment out of things. The psychopath lacks empathy and is therefore disconnected because of that, but they're all but indifferent. You can definitely anger one and for them to chase you and get revenge. That is the opposite of being indifferent and being numb to emotions.
She needs to work on self love and get away from him..the exact advice he has given others dealing with narcassists..hes draining the life out of her!!
I'm not a coward any day of the week maybe we will meet some day when I'm in a mood and your ego driven eyes will give you away like so many that oh snap this scrawny guy don't care and then its call the cops or security....wet dreams and all .
He has helped so many people. Plus, he's honest, humorous, a gifted genius. To overcome childhood abuse like this can be very difficult. He coined the word "Narcissistic Abuse," & "flying monkeys," ....he helps victims to heal. I support Sam Vaknin & enjoy his personality & information.
I'm fascinated with the great work Sam produces, but I'm now at the point I don't think he can blame his childhood totally on the people around him, especially his mother. He was wired wrong when still in the womb. My heart goes out to him. I can't imagine living life the way he has. I think he has gotten better control over his weaknesses in the past year, as he seems to enjoy interacting with other people especially young people, but he's still far from recovered. He never will be.
46:18 I immediately picked out the victim too... uh oh....🤨. Actually, I may not be so alone. The other people walked with more confidence so it was easy. Anyway, anybody else pick the vulnerable person out immediately? I sure hope so....
So he doesn't have a real PHD and even admitted to it before but flew off the handle when people questioned him about it 🙄 That's crazy making right there.
Those types of people will tell you the sky is red even if it's clearly blue. And they'll get angry with you if you try to say they are wrong. It's kind of funny. I try not to laugh at them because I care for my personal safety.
@Karl Rossman Thats not very nice Karl. After 5 years of seeing him for counseling, and all my emotional healing, you took that all away by pressing delete. Im back where i started, hope youre happy! 😔
His insatiable need too be validated only reveals how truly insecure and needy he really is. Seems too me, that he has societal issues. Can't make friends so becomes combative. It's the only way he feels accomplished and accepted.
Moses Hilow actually, it is not that they have no emotion whatsoever. Born with an under responsive automatic nervous system- they do not show a dynamic range of emotions. However, this does not mean they are not feeling! Do you mean empathy? They show aggression. That’s what you get- but they are unstable and depressed most often. I am only generalizing about psychopaths as a whole.
@@shawnaellcey6970 I'm a real Psychopath, diagnosed 20 yeras ago. Normal psychopath are not diagnosed, so they don't know that they are psychopath. They think they are normal so they can't tell you. ATM (and for the last 2 years) I'm depressed and lost the 3 most important of my 7 emotions and feelings (especially my greed). I'm not able to work or go out, so I sit at home at the internet and play my last card I have "hey I'm a diagnosed Psychopath" to get attention. You see, there could be reasons for telling it.
Let him believe whatever he wants. Just keep him away from society! It’s a game for him. You’re falling into his trap. I-I-I-I everything is about him.
@@Србомбоница86 Hmmm, his channel should be taken with a grain of salt. He cannot help but sometimes project his personality deficiencies onto healthy individuals. His narcissism (and psychopathy if there's any) indeed aren't curable (not because there is no treatment, but because it requires him to commit to it by being prepared to think less of himself and concede some control to his potential therapist, which he is not willing to do). Due to this incurability of his, he claims for some of the other disorders that can be treated with success that they are incurable (as much as his disorder is) but this is not true. He can probably understand, but can't integrate and therefore accept the concept of imperfection, because his "false self" is an infallible perfection, whereas his "true self" is diametrically opposite - a total failure. He can't find the imperfect golden middle because it doesn't exist within him. Therefore he draws the conclusion that people can't be cured of some mental health issues like borderline personality disorder or co-dependency, because his expectation is that a cured person should be 100% perfectly cured, while the reality is that none of us are perfect and even upon completion of treatment, a person will still be imperfect, just within a healthier, normal range of imperfect.
@@donato286 he is a pure psychopath ,I guarantee it , just highly functional.Negative comments about him make no sense to me ,I agree with the rest of your comment,but he IS a psychopath,of course he expects absolute perfection and no golden middle exists for him since his emotional palate is bland
@@Србомбоница86 To address the matter of negative comments, depending on what we mean by negative comments, some of those that address specifically his poor behaviors do make sense (he's not absolved from negative judgment of his behaviors as none of us are, irrespective of any mental diagnoses). Anyone who does something antisocial should expect to be met with social (and sometimes legal) judgment and there's no way around that because it's a social (and again, legal) norm. I should say that I personally make a distinction between negative comments and demeaning comments. I think it's a good distinction to keep in mind. Negative comments are keeping us accountable as members of society, demeaning comments should be avoided (after all, that's exactly the kind of poor behavior Sam exhibits in this documentary). I'm not sure though how to interpret "he IS a psychopath, of course he expects absolute perfection" in the context of what I said (him projecting, i.e. introducing his psychopathic expectations of perfectionism into his conclusions about (un)treatability of some mental disorders). If this means your awareness that he's projecting and that his conclusions indeed should be taken with a grain of salt, we are on the same page. If you mean it in a sense that pointing it out to you in particular is redundant as you are aware, I understand, and if that's the case I'm hoping that what I wrote may be helpful to someone else whose filters are still not "there", so to speak. If I'm missing something in my interpretation of your words, do let me know.
Psychopaths lie. They can cause a lot of havoc because they gain people's trust quickly, then strike, and take off with the loot before anyone notices. I knew a girl in university who embezzled 10k from a cultural club that she had no cultural ties to. She joined because she thought the guys were cute. Beforehand, I was complaining to my brother in law who is a lawyer, he said 'Whatever you do, don't put your name as a signing officer of the club's bank account, she sounds like she's a fraud and will use you as a lackey.' I'm glad I listened to him.
@@icicle8384 Coincidentally, that form of "making up a story" is known as pathological lying. Still lying, but definitely not the same as lying for a reason that we all engage in to various degrees.
His family probably was close. He definitely was not. He is too un even and unfocused it seems. Meh maybe I’m wrong. I’d doubt he created wealth on his own. Hmm I haven’t either LOL. He is a mess
You guys are having your viewpoint shaped by the flim maker. He is a Narcissistic Psychopath & has deep understanding of how they think, their inner dialogue, behaviors & much more that is not based on anyone elses work & is his own & usually accepted later by many top psychologist. He does this by studying himself, along with others. Its like having a deep conversation with Pete Rose, and not a sports writer, when it comes to Baseball. He has insight that cant always be obtained from a book.
he's channel is a wealth of insight for those struggling to understand what the motivations and innate differences of those with cluster B. it's very interesting how he's giving brutally honest advice to partners of abusive narcissists... I've found myself crying during them as I feel so stupid to fall for such a common problem, I over complicated it in my mind to think we were the exceptional couple. it was all a fantasy.
I've been intensely watching Sam's videos for the past month listening to his assessments about Israel-Palestine-Hamas. It took over a month before YT algorithms managed to display this very interesting documentary about the more 'real' Sam. Thank you for giving me an insight into the real him at least from 13 years ago. The fact that you didn't share anything his family shared with you and I haven't been able to find anything about their POV, says a lot about his estrangement from his siblings. I feel sorry for Lidjia yet I understand her love for him and her need to be with him. Sam is very attractive when he's acting more normal. She's also at the age now she wouldn't have any other option. And I do think that Sam does love and need her in his own way, but he'd be very very difficult to live with even today. I knew he didn't complete his residency to be a physician, but I didn't know he didn't quite complete his PhD and that it was the equivalent of going through a diploma mill education service. How sad that someone with his incredible intelligence and focus is trapped in his own self-abusive life. Now I understand why he self markets himself the way he does and why virtually all of the main stream media and other top notch thinkers stay away from him. The talk he gave Romanian young people a year or so ago was excellent. When he's good he's great, but his verbal outbursts to people is terrible. I no longer wonder why his relationship with Richard Grannon ended suddenly.
I agree poor mouse! But, when I try to describe what being in a relationship with a narcissist looks or feels like I use the car and mouse analogy. What most normal people think that looks like is the cat chasing the mouse while the mouse outsmarts him like a tom and jerry cartoon because they've never witnessed it. My discription it's like the cat has the mouse between it's paws and it's turning him into piece of gray chewing gum. This is how you feel after narcissistic abuse!
Be careful. You could be the target of a NPD psychopath. I should have listened to the warning signs myself. People that have no empathy for animals show themselves clearly.
All Psychopaths and Sociopaths are Narcissists, but not all Narcs are Psychopaths/Sociopaths. In the grand scheme of things, it doesn't matter. Toxic is toxic. Get free, & stay No Contact forever.
It does seem odd to market oneself as a narcissist and a psychopath. Most people who can be categorized as these things prefer to have such a diagnosis to be unknown to all they encounter to better practice their dastardly deeds. It's like he wants to be the cuddly psychopath who is quirky and charming while telling everyone of his brilliance and danger, which makes me think he is a poser cashing in on societal curiosity about such things.
A psychopath does not even care to be labled as a psychopath. He does not care. He does not care, what others feel about him to be a psychopath. He only cares what he can get out of others or situations. He is thinking in functionality.
Very interesting, I was on a channel called Diane's channel and she had H.G. Tudor on there last week. Who is also a proclaimed Narcissist Psychopath. It was extremely informative. To hear his analogy on things. The fact that Sam is aware of his behavior or his repetitive doings is very telling to me. He knows that he is callus, manipulative, and preys upon the meek and weak. But all can fall prey. They have a certain charm as well,which is odd to me. Great video 🥰❤
I strongly believe they know what they are doing because they are very strategic and plan in advance and patient until they literally kill You emotionally, mentally. That’s the drive, of winning. Have heard one saying: she needs that dynamic in her life. That’s all that matters. And the base of any relationship they have.
Sam is more so a classic narcissist than a clinical psychopath, although the disorders do overlap. The irony is of course, that the only people who ever seem to call themselves "psychopaths" are narcissists, and never actual psychopaths. The claim in and of itself usually reveal such a personality disorder. I see this time and time again. Often because they want to seem "cool," "special," and "fascinating/mysterious."
I think the documentary may be providing some misleading information regarding the subject of Psychopathy. Sam is likely not a Psychopath but most likely a Malignant Narcissist given his fragile ego. It's interesting because I've seen some official primary psychopaths online disprove that Sam Vaknin is one and the best evidence against him being one is at this time stamp 39:09 The documentary suggests that he showed cold emotion within the brain scans but that's not the result that was being displayed. Like his wife, he was showing the normal range of emotions and only flatlines later. This implies he can feel empathy but picks and chooses when to be callous which is otherwise beyond a Psychopath's capability as their brain wiring would disallow them from feeling empathy at all. In fact, the documentary skims over this detail but suggests that when Sam was placed into MRI, he started off badly, so he was given more than one chance (Likely because he was showing normal emotional responses in those instances).
In videos on his channel he said several times that he is malignant narcissist, and psychopathic narcissist. He at least once said that that being a psychopathic narcissist is the best combination, because that enables him to easily recognize both psychopaths and narcissists.
He said it in some older video's that he is a psychopath. A psychopath can also include narcissism of course. In his newer video's he says he is a narcissist. I think that he just avoids to say psychopath. I do not know why.
you know, it may just be me, but I'm not sure a real psychopath would be like "I'm manipulating you, idiot! ahah look how narcissistic I am! so crazy! wow" seems like something a normal psychopath would keep on the dl. I have a strong feelings his psych test was so high because he gave the answers he thought they needed to hear. he wants to fit the mold of something he isn't in order to excuse the fact that he's just a normal, boring, jerk. what do I know though? I don't have a fake PhD on it.
To this day I am still questioning if my brother suffers from BPD/a major narcissistic personality disorder or if he is truly a psychopath. He has left a path of destruction, pain and hurt with pretty much everyone who has crossed paths with him. They say that psychopaths don't feel empathy and can mimic or fake it. I can see so many similarities with Sam's personality (lying, self-agrandizing behavior but low-self esteem, gaslighting, agressive/standoffish, some impulsive behavior yet calculating, etc.) . My brother knows the difference between right and wrong and I think he can understand when he has hurt someone but it's like he doesn't care. Most of the time he actually takes pleasure in doing so and it actually makes him feel better, it seems to lift up his own low self-esteem. He knows how to hurt someone in the most horrible ways, it's terrible, yet women keep going after him. I've never understood it. To the victims who have gotten out or to their families, I send you much love and courage. It is an exhausting experience of constantly being gaslit, put down, only to be brought back up and reeled back in. They have to take responsibility for their actions (if at all possible) and be willing to seek help. If not, you have to distance yourself for the sake of your own mental health, no matter how painful that may be.
I recommend the channel: _Psychopathy Is_ I found their videos to be incredibly informative, interesting, and compassionate. It's difficult for those of us with psychopathic loved ones to get evidence-based information about this vilified and misunderstood condition. They interview people who have psychopathy, people who have loved ones (a child or spouse) who have psychopathic traits. As well as psychopathy researchers and mental health experts. I found this video and Dr. Barron's other video about psychopathy 'treatment modalities' to be some of the best descriptions I've found to describe my experience. Hope this helps. Ask a psychiatrist - How do you diagnose psychopathy? - ua-cam.com/video/o9nLlM7hDiY/v-deo.html
@@invisiblemissx Thanks! I'll definitely have a look. It's a tough condition to deal with when it comes to family members. Trying to understand why they do the things they do can be difficult. The minute you say 'psychopathy' people automatically think of Bateman in 'Psycho'😉 lol. Thanks for the recommendation Miss X.
@rainremnant177 Hi rain, thanks for your comment. I do realize that people with BPD are capable of empathy. I certainly did not mean to mix the two. What I meant to say is that like in many mental health conditions, many traits/symptoms can overlap which can sometimes make it difficult to distinguish what is going on (ex. periods of depression, black and white thinking, impulsive behavior, etc. These can be seen in several conditions right?). What I struggle to understand with my brother is that he seems to want to show empathy (or remorse) but I'm not sure if he genuinely feels it, feels it in a 'warped' way or simply 'mimics' empathy in a learned sort of way so that he can somewhat function? It's like he knows what he does is hurtful to others (not always but sometimes) but the other person always deserved it or he doesn't really care to/can't understand what it's like for others to undergo the pain that he inflicts so it just doesn't seem to bother him. He always has to be the victim (gaslight) when confronted or there's always a valid reason to do what he does whenever it comes time to feel empathy. His reality is never the same as ours so there's always an excuse for his behaviour, therefore no ownership. I hope that makes sense.
He doesnt seem like a psychopath. He is more of a attention seeking brat. And i feel like the filmmaker indeed has a wrong approach on this whole psychopathy thing. Why was he shocked, that sam was trying to bully him and why was he complaining about it, like he was on the verge of crying in front of him? Gave him the control and the attention he wants. This made the docu kinda pointless.
I like Sam because he is so real, intelligent and a great communicator. In this insane world there are many people in places of power who are clear narcissists and psychos that are very dangerous. Sam is not dangerous.
Duped yet once again... This journey to freedom and the realities one must endure are mind bending. Thanks for this documentary. It brings a person back to center.
The guys a bread and butter narcissist nothing more, I think the fact he overreacted when asked about his PhD shows perfectly he is not inpervious to criticism.
Mr. Vaknin is also a highly knowledgeable person ... it seems like this documentary talks about his dark side and shows his lack of empathy for others’ feelings. However, he is very very smart man and you may learn a thing or two from him. If he is faking his knowledge - then I’m not sure about those who don’t anymore 🤣. Ps: nobody outhere is “normal”. If humans were; we wouldn’t be in this mess!
Narcissists want to control and destroy, his wife was destroyed bcs of parents with npd, she have Borderline Personality Disorder, those use to get married to Narcissists.
Mmhmm! They probably thought it was pure documentary gold; like some real deep stuff... Either _that_ or, if you listen carefully, you can hear some dude furiously beating off to it in the background.
@CrucibelleI'm just guessing, but it may have been stunned by a swipe from the cat we didn't see. It also may have been a defence mechanism. When cornered or not likely to escape, some animals freeze in a last-ditch effort, sort of like playing dead. The more the mouse moves, the more it'll trigger the cat's instinctual hunting response.
The real question is whether he is as intelligent as he claims. Simple answer- NO His own narcissism compromises his assessments as a physiologist or as a serious mind. Seriously people, there are other minds who understand more than SAMMY BOY on the subject matter of narcissism. He is a mind that knows how to exploit his times at best, a hustler.
You may not like his affect, but he is brilliant. His IQ was tested when he was a child, it was in the high 180's. He went to university when he was nine years old - in Israel - they had no idea what else to do with him. There is a series of talks he did with Richard Grannon years ago where he talks about his background. It's fascinating, and really sad. I highly doubt there is anyone who is as skilled at speaking about narcissism as Sam is. It is a subject he LIVES with and has researched at a depth that demands respect. So - who are you going to put up against Sam? Have you even watched his channel or read any of his work?
Diana Diamond. There is a channel called- Borderlinenotes. Sam has-a massive blind-spot due to his own narrcisism. High IQ is just the base criteria for the particular kind of perception needed. He has no peer reviews and doesn't actual practice as a therapist of any sort.
Not even half way in the video and I know he is just typical narcissists trying to be grandiose so he can get rich,stroke his ego and attract more victims.
@@doloreskjar9673 All psychopaths are narcissists too but most narcissists are not psychopaths. He was diagnosed as a narcissist only. There is a big jump from NPD to psychopathy.
Its not that big of a jump actually. They have many overlapping traits & something like 60% of narcissist are also considered either level 1 or level 2 for psychopathy.
Is his wife an victim or an enabler? Funny how he acts above everyone and then acts like a child when things don't go his way. I almost feel sorry for him.
Nexus Prime I just had to roll my eyes when he had a fit and locked himself in the bathroom. My granddaughter is 8 and has more sense than that! His wife? I feel so sad that she is happy to settle for that bag of #%^*
His wife grew up with parents, who has the same, she have bpd and those use to get married to Narcissists, the females with bpd grew up with a narchisstic mother.
Sam Vaknin is da man, say whatever you want but he has huge amount of knowledge about narcissists, when i started watching his content things started to make sense for the first time.
As a narcissist he is apt to fake on that psychopathy test to make his score higher even if he says that he expected to fail. He’s lying. He WANTS to be a psychopath, he’s a narc and it makes him feel special, unique, gets him attention. Honestly, he’s boring.
The behaviour exhibited by Vaknin was a replica of my ex ! Heart went out to the film maker as he was verbally and psychologically abused ...I can still remember that brain freezing rush of fear as the abuser whips up an unexpected and irrational conflict and hones in for the kill even years later ! Vaknin is a monster ....an intellectual high functioning one but a monster nonetheless. He was obviously rattled by the questioning of his having a Ph.D credential; his defensiveness and offence says it all ...? Great documentary with some real luminaries of the research field included.
Tove Naerwick, they ARE demon possessed! They need deliverance! 💯% I suggest GOD's Heart Tv or Emmanuel tv to receive deliverence! It is called having a " familiar spirit"! And it is a demon, a very real one!
And..at the end of the day....who wants to waste their time with trying to understand an unpleasant person like Sam...focus on the wonderful people in our society...not the bottom feeders like Sam.
Sam Vaknin is able to self analyse which is very rare even in normal personnalities... The reason why he is able is because our mind operate not only on the biological level, and on the soul level, but on the spiritual level too... Each one of us, psychopath or not, we live on three worlds : the social and biological actor with a mask, and on a spiritual level with the spirit... The "I" can chose one against the other, as the robotic man on the street , or deep mystics absorbed in the source , or be in a state where we stay conscious alternatively of our own internal duality... Reincarnation exist also...It seems Sam Vaknin is able to be conscious about his compulsion to act in some way...Why not ? i listen to iceman Kuklinski confession , and he was conscious of a void in himself too... We have many lifetimes to become what we really are...If it was not the case, psychopath will be a spiritual enigmas unsolvable ... What remain though a problem in one life can look for his solution in another life... Consciousness is the intuition of this solution crossing a higher level than the mere biological and social mindset , even serial killers know or could discover they are ill... Sam Vaknin introspection has his limits as for any of us but can be very helpful to listen to and in fact more helpful for most than perhaps my own healthy person introspection ... He is highly intelligent... I look at his youtube with interest and criticism too ...
I have spend 23 years with his physiological twin - it was dark time 13 years past now I am still recovering, if you want to be a good mum, please never rase children with them.
I love this guy. Intelectually speaking. He is brilliant and I appreciate him to share the info. For my own journey he has been a great part of my recovery.
Is Sam really a crank or just a malignant narcissist? I knew someone like him, he pretended he was interested in what I did, but the minute his attitude turned, I knew something was off. When he started getting angry at me for nothing, I said, "Well I guess that's too bad." It shut him up then and there, because he knew he wouldn't be able to use me for a punching bag. I'd dealt with people like him before.
Malignant Narcissist. He shows vengeful callousness, grandiosity, and self entitlement but also shows an extremely fragile ego given the amount of tantrums he throws throughout the documentary which aren't traits related to Psychopathy at all. He essentially embarked on this journey to just get the diagnosis in order to inflate his own ego but the results from the brain scans at 39:09 speak for themselves. He had the normal range of empathetic emotions just like his wife. :P
I am surprised so many people do not think he is a psychopath just because he thinks he's one. Yes it's unusual for them to come forward, but not impossible? Also he had a brain scan. If he were faking it, I think that would show up. Also i think that the test he took probably would show it if he were trying to fake results too. ? as far as his blow ups, it seems like that's how he makes others into victims. The other problem with being around a psychopath is that they don't necessarily look or seem like one. But it's in the actions, do they have any sense of conscious, not how they look.
Sam's wife is a victim of social programming just like every other woman who grows up watching Disney movies and waiting for Prince charming. That is all a fantasy and unrealistic, but that doesn't mean you have to settle for some psychopathic jerk who is incapable of love and just sees you as an object.
This guy isn't a psychopath either tbf, just another crusty narcissist who finds something romantic in the idea of psychopathy and by extension creates his pseudo identity around it. Aspergers has more in common with psychopathy than many want to admit, certainly more than the narcissism/psychopathy relationship imo
People I know and love have those 3 disorders (not to say psychopaths aren't loveable I just don't know any) and for people to accuse you of psychopathy for having those way more common disorders is obnoxious
As someone w/ autism I’ve got psychopath/sociopath behaviors & use them for several reasons such as; to not be taken advantage of & understanding things in different perspectives.
Adhd anxiety and trauma , ppl don’t realize I’m only running around in a hyper focused state not trying to step on ppl I just do and I feel bad other times I’m like oh well I need to keep pushing or I’ll get depressed over it
So let me just say you can't cheat on an MRI but it is incredibly easy to cheat on the psychopathy checklist. You could teach a six year old over the course of a day.
True but the only problem is that I don't think he was able to. The documentary suggests that he showed cold emotion within the brain scans but that's not the result that was being displayed. Like his wife, he was showing the normal range of emotions and only flatlines later. This implies he can feel empathy but picks and chooses when to be callous which is otherwise beyond a Psychopath's capability as their brain wiring would disallow them from feeling empathy at all.
Sam sounds like every Eastern European I’ve met. Pretty much! Too honest, giving everyone a list about what they’re like and who they are… just everything. It’s a cultural thing. I know he’s Israeli but still, very Eastern European. I’m from one of those countries. I know many families including my own. Sometimes my own sincerity gets me into trouble and to be honest it’s a language thing: you translate in English and it’s sounds so direct and harsh.
The Narcissism is strong in this one. But I'm not feeling the psychopathy. He comes off way too desperate needy for validation. Plus he throws tantrums like a toddler which is what a narcissist basically is
I went on Quora to see what other officially diagnosed Psychopaths thought of him. Most of them weren’t convinced by his authenticity. In fact, most of them believed that he was just a Malignant Narcissist which is similar but completely different from Psychopathy.
@@HaileyBabi Yes. Blending in is a given for a Psychopath if they intend to get something or assimilate within society. So they need to adapt. A primary psychopath truly doesn’t care about what other people think of them. One psychopath by the name of Athena Walker answered this question on Quora and made it clear that attention just annoys her and to desire validation stems from a low self esteem which only narcissists have because they can feel emotion. They just deliberately choose to not be empathetic.
Fascinating. Bless your heart. A tough one. Thank you for enduring torment & whatever lasting harm to yourself it may cause. You video has helped me tremendously. I sincerely appreciate you.
“I love to be hated.”
“I hate to be loved.”
-That’s a lot of feelings for someone literally claiming they don’t care what others think or are claiming to be void of emotions, lol.
What a attention seeker.
No doubt, that answers the question as no! I’m only hearing narcissism
How is that attention seeking & how would that bring you attention? Whether people dislike him or not, hes being completely open & himself.
Psychopaths have feelings, its empathy they lack.
@@doloreskjar9673 wow you're all over the comments defending psycopaths... you need help
Eric Upton getting a positive reaction is attention, but getting a heated negative reaction is even more attention: meaning to him he is important & powerful = supply
He's not a psychopath. He's a paranoid narcissist that would likely be in a psych ward, if he hadn't lucked out and married a "mommy" to give him rules. I hope they're happy.
@Jon michael If Vankin is a genius so is my cat
Lolz @ Lella Mack 😁
190 IQ. Follow him here on YT under his real name. Saw his face in the clip and knew immediately it was him? He definitely puts the diff in indifferent and can come off a bit Snobbish, but it seems he’s also learned to be more open and very honest about what he and his Narc SPECIES are and what they are NOT. Something most Narcissist aka Ogo’s refuse to do.
They love being the PUZZLE no one has the Brains 🧠 to put together. 😎
@@girl123boy456 Interesting isn't it, by recognizing he is a narcissist he managed to attain what narcissists seek, importance. By being the only diagnosed narcissist who has expressed and published his view of himself and of narcissism, he is a unique insight into narcissism. So, by exposing himself, which most narcissists dread for fear of no longer being seen as unique and important, he actually achieved it.
@@he-mememan359 He did a whole podcast on this and talks about his needs. He said he wanted an audience to admire him and that's exactly what he has.
He is not a psychopath and I'm guessing you are an internet armchair psychologist.
It's kind of apparent how insecure he is. He gets angry so fast about small things and always feels like he needs to belittle other people.
He's defo a narc.
Yes but there're quite a few people who exhibit this personality trait. That doesn't necessarily mean that they are a psycho or a narcissist, it's probably just part of their personality or a mental disorder perhaps.
Things aren't always quite as clear cut as u think. Unless you know someone's situation full on, u can't really judge them simply because they exhibit certain behaviours u dislike.
@@anufajemisin4348 It's a spectrum. It's not simply a case of being a narcissist/psychopath or not being one. No shortage of people are moderately narcissistic, and even moderately psychopathic.
@@oldishandwoke-ish1181 Actually you can display narcissistic traits and not actually be diagnosed with NPD. The disorders overlap but are clearly defined according the the DSM
@@007kitkit8 I know - I dated one. And was raised by two.
This guy is a narcissistic…it’s not a scam ..I dealt with a classic narcissist for years and he provides the truest insight in his talks. The way he interacts in this documentary just confirmed it for me. The only thing that perplexes me is his ability to self analyze…it’s incredible and I would say extremely rare and those of us who have suffered through a situation like this are lucky to have him because otherwise it would be difficult to get any true understanding since most narcissists will never admit there is something wrong with them since there is no one inside them how or what will they analyze. It’s just as he says.
Listen to HG Tudor. His insights are priceless. He is a psychopathic narcissist. I have learned so much from him explaining his kind. I'm getting the help I need to deal with the narc in my life and I couldn't be more grateful. Had no idea these people think the way they do about us victims. It's empowering.
Yeah, narcissists get offended, they can't handle when people challenge their view of themselves, that kills them inside.
The self analysis isn’t surprising. Not all of them lack cognitive ability to evaluate themselves, how else could they understand how to manipulate people? They know exactly who they are and exactly what they’re doing. The key is that they lack empathy, so they just don’t care!
the people who don't want to believe it don't want to believe he is a psychopath I don't think they have troubles believing in his narcissism
@@MamaBear0823 covert narcissists have emapathy. They even are capable od regret although they quickly find an explanation for why it's all fault of someone else. They victimize themselves often. They need their ego intact. Grandiose narcissists on most cases don't even bother to do those things and their empathy levels are very low. But they know the feeling. The key is need of any narcissist to be valued or even worshiped. That's why they analyse.
This guy takes the "i'm crazy and that's quirky" thought process to a new level.
I, too, am a Wombat Person.
Well wishes to you.
@@batwom4304 and I'm mother Theresa 🙏🏻
I’m only halfway through this video but I find it fascinating because I am a fan of Sam. My father was a malignant narcissist and Sam’s content taught me a lot about my father , how to deal and how to not deal with my father , and ultimately how to let go of the fantasy of having a relationship with someone who is that mentally ill. My father has been dead for years but I still struggle with the things that he taught me as a child and the lies that he said about me and the things that he said to me live on in my mind. I struggle with the legacy of shame and hurt and incompetency that he told me , defined me. He was a screw and ruthless to me as Sam is to this film maker and he was my father so you can imagine the power of those words coming from the man who brought you to life. I ended up marrying a man who was somewhat narcissistic on a much lower level but still abnormal. And I have a history of men and women in my path , friends , coworkers, bosses that would rate very high on the narcissism scale because I was used to dealing with that type of personality, good and bad.
im a big fan of sam, too. helped me to understand the dynamic of my family - and myself
Omg....you've described me to a T. Same dynamic everywhere. And yes, surrounded by so many, too.
Jenn Memphis just remember that when the narcissist is throwing insults at you, he is really talking about himself. He is incapable of knowing you because he is self-absorbed. Whenever the narcissists in my life criticise me, I say "I'm sorry you feel that way". They try to set you off because it gives them a sense of power and control.
@@psalmsreader7997 Thanks. I don't have to anymore, he's dead. 3 years today actually. wow. but, yep, i've done tons of research to recognize the next one if that day comes! thank you! :)
Same as been for me... My father is alcoholic... my two relationships was with psychopaths... blessings sending your way... there was NPD coworker female... she bullied everyone.... these tricks do work for short term.... blessings sending your way... do ifs therapy
He is dead set on being a psychopath. It's like he builds his whole personality around it
im literally 3 minutes in and im thinking the same thing
okay wait a minute... he was DIAGNOSED w narcissistic personality disorder... why is he- this whole thing is just his narcissism?
He truly is cocky
@Dig Byck lmao
@no privacy the scores did not reflect that of a sociopath or narcissist CEO but more of a mental ward psychopath.
My mom's boyfriend is a psychopath. His eyes bore through you to your soul. It's very chilling how he can calmly just belittle you without even changing the tone of his voice. I still shudder on the rare occasions I see him.
@Ryan Have you pointed this out to your mom? If she's with such a person, maybe she would be better off in therapy. He could do her some serious harm one day. If they belittle you just remember the reason why they do it is because they feel small themselves. Why do you think they put on such a grandiose facade? To compensate for their smallness. And he wouldn't be pulling it on you unless he saw you as a threat.
@@LisaMaryification
It doesn't work that way with psychopaths, they will belittle someone just to bully them
@@RideLikeTheWind and he's just gonna stand there and do nothing about it?
@@RideLikeTheWind 😂😂😂😂
Thank you Ryan, this is one of the few sensible comments herr. Phsycopaths are not amusing, they are dangerous to society, as stated in the film. And they drain the people they meet (like the filmmaker detailed). I am astonished that the audience does not understand what they see
She claims he's the best person she's ever met yet doesn't want to have a child with him. THANK GOD!
Deep down she knows no matter what he really is, he is too selfish and self centered to have a child. For that I admire her even though she chooses to stay with him.
She’ll probably cave in to her own selfish desires. Human beings have been shooting out more victims for this world since the beginning of time. They justify it to themselves with optimistic delusions.
That can be genetic. That's why she's afraid
I met my now ex psychopathic narcissist ex (. as he only allowed me to meet his son once, as part of his control over me... even though one of his first promises was to for me to be part of his then five year old child. He knew I can’t can’t have children and I wanted to have one... but convinced me that it would interfere with our lifestyle) I was amazed at his then 8 year olds attitude, it let me feeling, that he might grow up to be just like his father... How sad.
@@grenouillesscent Ok 'Rust'.
This is a 2009 documentary for anyone wondering
Thank You ,Its Important ..I Hate when a Doc I think oh this is new and 20min or whatever in it Im going:Seen it ,Dam it .I see atleast 2 a day maybe more ,so its posible to forget
i knew he looked young. he is now gaining traction as one of preeminent experts on narcissism. so they decide to publish this documentary at a good time.
Thanks, was wondering how old this was. Follow him here on YT and his lectures are quite good and helpful. He drops tea ☕️ on Narcissistic Disorder like no Clinician I’ve watched to date. He actually looks better with his white hair. Narcs have been traumatizing the population for so long. So it’s interesting to hear from one of them, how they view themselves and do “THEY” think or even believe that there is indeed something askew with themselves, psychologically. 😎
@You Done Messed Up I will not argue wth you onn thatt ones .Nnoo Sirr
People not always argue in their native language. It depends on the places where they are/live in and on many other factors. I speak more that one language, my native language is Romanian and I argue with my nephews in German, even if they speak excellently my native language, because they live there and it is more effective to do so.
I just found this doc *YEARS AFTER* watching Sam's UA-cam channel on narcissism...
I can only say that his words were a truth that freed me from a toxic narcissist. It also helped me see ways of better advocating for myself as a whole. I'm not sure about his being a psychopath BUT he is definitely a very self insightful narcissist and his advice was invaluable to me at a time when I had no other information on what and more importantly *who* I was dealing with.
Do you think Sam arranged this documentary as a publicity stunt. Sam an actor as well? I saw this Documentary first before I knew about Sam a few months ago.
Now we have the Dr Ramani she is the BEST ✨⭐️🌟💫👌
HG Tudor is the absolute best. His knowledge is helping me so much with the narc in my life. I have watched Sam, but I prefer to learn from HG. He is a diagnosed psychopathic narcissist, and it is so interesting to hear how they operate. He also has an extremely pleasant voice, so thats a bonus.
@@m.g5796 She misses the mark a lot though unfortunately. No one is a better teacher on this than HG Tudor. That I have found at least. I now have the tools to deal with the narcissist ruining my life
@@Elegant_Sausage My son just got married to a sociopath. Sam won't be able to help me here. Sam only talks narcissism which is a non-clinical term. Sometimes we all look at our own image from the reflection but in regards to really serious things Sam would have to prove himself to me.
His reaction to the PhD brewhaha was precisely how you'd expect a pathological narcissist to respond to being called out about not finishing his PhD.
Just the fact that he doesn't care that his fellow colleagues see that he never graduated, shows that he doesn't care about their opinion of him but that he uses it to prey on people who don't know the whole process of dissertation and publishing. I knew a woman who lied her whole life about getting pregnant before marriage. Althought the baby was born full term only a few months after she and the father married, she still told people her entire life that the baby was conceived after the wedding. Anyone can just do the math to know that she's lying. She's not even claiming the baby is premature, she's just flat out lying to your face. Really strange.
HE OVER LOVES HIMSELF
He actually has a PHD, just wasnt going to run out to impress her.
@@kashhoeksma7562
Oh, he has self-overlove syndrome.
he technically has one, just no diploma. He did the dissertation and it was reviewed and put in the library of congress apparently, but did not complete the full 8 years, only 2.
This man built his whole You Tube channel on the self diagnosis of narcissism.
He understands narcissism perfectly
If nobody paid attention to this guy, he wouldn’t feel so special. When I come across narcissistic personalities I’ve learned to turn on my heels and go the other way. I’m 2:20 into this and moving on to something worth my time.
The narcissism test was one visit and a standard exam, pretty fast for such a big diagnosis. That test showed low-grade narcissism, so he is still on the spectrum. Also, high avoidant, paranoid and schizophrenia, a combo often seen in mental illness and an inability to cope in an outpatient setting. He was also diagnosed with very strong psychopathy. His MRI showed low arousal = his couldn’t move his emotions up or down by thinking of sad or happy things. Low arousal is why they think psychopaths do such extreme things: actually trigger feelings. That’s why MRI is so helpful in diagnosis. Those results combined with his written test score resulted in a score of 18 out of 24. Disappointed to hear about the fake degree, yet that doesn’t totally invalidate his entire body of work. He is so extreme in where he will take his views (and verbalize then), he can make even a regular old narcissist cringe. That’s the psychopathy showing through. I wonder what his thesis was about 🧐
I'm not going to defend this guy, but Sam Vaknin and his videos are extremely insightful and more interesting than this video. He literally a self proclaimed and diagnosed malignant narcissist. I don't see it hard to believe him playing the role just to fill the narrative of this documentary. Just being honest to anyone who reads this.
Seeing the film maker's ritual cleansing after his short time with Sam brought back chilling memories after my (less than 1 year) relationship with a psychopath. I ended up having an 8 month long nervous breakdown after realizing I had been chosen, targeted, and repeatedly "raped by deception" by a complete fraud, a stranger, & a monster demon. I was bedridden, self-isolated, begging God to remove the filth left on me, and did hundreds of ritual cleansings & soul tie cord cutting exercises in meditation.
Night terrors, shaking uncontrollably, couldn't get out of bed for longer than maybe an hour at a time, brain fog, could not let men look at me , fear of red trucks, left with PTSD... its taken nearly 5 years to heal the trauma (with counseling and meds).
When you've been with one, there's no mistaking how evil they really are.
His poor wife has Stokholm Syndrome.
What could have happened in such a short time period to ruin you like that?
Wow, same as me. I was with a psychopath for 2 months and I felt dirty afterwards.
Your experience reflects my own ...5 years to recover, PTSD, complete breakdown. Truly evil, sub human ... my heartfelt compassion for you.
So sorry that you had to go throw that and I wish you luck in recovery
wow
Wow, this makes Sam look very bad. He’s horrible. It reminds me of my father. Imagine being around this man for 46 years.
As for his wife, Lydia.....I doubt she is madly in love with Sam...rather, she is like someone who has low selfesteem, feels like no one else would want her, etc. etc. . She is like many of my Clients who choose to 'tolerate' the horrible treatment of their narc partners.....until I work with them...and help them to actualise their own power.....
His wife has talked before a few times how she copes with him. She grew up with a narsasistic mother and pycopathic sister. She learned what to do with them. She has used these tricks with her husband all the time. Also said she is a very confident person and is happy. She is very much in charge of him.
Do you think she has a dependent personality?
@@hon747 i think she has had Stockholm syndrome/trauma bond and has had it her whole life. She knows nothing else.
@Channel Dark Blue facts, pplz assume women are innocent or victims which is bs
Rather unethical for you to be putting out a professional opinion on someone who's never consented to be seen by you. Whether you're right or not..
Fascinating documentary. My deepest sympathy to you having to spend more than five minutes in his company.
Yes, thank you
😀😃😄😁
Diagnosed psychopath here. The best way to diffuse the Narcissist’s arguing fuel is to stare at them continuously while they spew nonsense. Then, smile subtly and chuckle without saying anything, not taking the bait. This will frustrate them beyond words, where they will only want to escape the situation. Narcissists use emotional gaslighting games in an attempt to control and manipulate you. If you show no emotion and let them know you are above them and their games, you will crush whatever fabrication they’re standing on.
"I gave up love. I found Sam" that made me so sad. I hope she finds love! Especially selflove
Sadly she found a demon possessed man. Demons of course can't love, never will be able and so won't be their hosts!
Every not demon possessed person is capable of Love!
Narcs need all to be exorcised! Here only GOD can help!
Omg he is exhausting.
When Sam told the director to lay down and think about all the bad things he said about him and to figure out what was true, was the real serious torture. That could keep someone locked in their own head for a long time.
Oof yeh that stood out as particularly insidious.
Now imagine similar words said by someone who spoke of love for you give mins before. Complete mindfuck.
Breaking free is the only chance to find your way out of their darkness.
They manipulate to trick someone into believing they have a beautiful light
but in reality, it's your own reflection.
Thank you for this amazing documentation. It's a gift. Even if it's dark it brings in light in a dark room so we can see clearer. I recognise Sam's bullying and games in bad leaders I have, and he explains brilliantly how the brain shuts down in fear. That gives us an antidote, and we should be grateful for him showing us this. All we have is this, we must not give in to fear and shut down. We must see these people for who they are, and learn how to deal with them. I know now, that every time I get that feeling now around someone, I end the contact. Unfortunately many of them will be our boss.
I love it, when those ppl get exposed, it can save victims.
He's a nutcase wanting to be a fruitcake.
Even though this guy is a psycopath his videos and openness to talk about these topics have helped alot of people online overall.
They have
even though??
He acts like he's surprised he scored so high like we haven't watched him champion himself as king psycho for like 45 minutes.
psychopaths in prison though score like a 12 or a 13 apparently and he scored an 18
@@fseesauras I honestly don't believe this guy is actually a psychopath, just an utter narcissist, and pretending to be a psychopath is just one of the manifestations of his narcissism.
Wow. This is eye opening. The PhD he waves as such a scrupulous and long hard earned title was nothing but something he bought after 2 years of composing a thesis? I was actually watching this guy and thinking he was the end all information bank and long standing 12+ year scholar on PDs and I'd been duped. Now I know. And god bless the documenter for really getting to the bottom of it and uncovering by having him self admit what low fruit he seems to be profiting from. This was a wealth to stumble upon. I thank the filmmaker for enduring that abuse for the sake of our learning.
Sam's understanding and the way he relates to the victims what has or is happening is superior. Sam brought us the language to express what we went through. I have spent 20 years with a malignant narcissists. I can't find anyone with a PhD in my area that can come close to helping me but Sam.
Me too!!!!! I've spent hours and hours watching his videos thinking he was a real Psychologist!! 😂 I'm pissed
Eh, I don't think it takes anything away from his legacy. Even with partial PhD + 99th percentile IQ + self insight as an actual malignant narcissist he is one of the best lecturers on it. I'm not saying that would normally be the case, but in *his* case his depth of insight really is quite impressive, his "bench" is quite deep. I have not seen other clinicians or researchers that can perceive and communicate certain things about NPD in the ways he can. So he really is world class. But yea, I'm not surprised at all about the phd; narcissists cut corners abd exaggerate their accomplishments.
Your obviously a victim. Or surely going to be
He literally said "they lie with purpose, they have a reason. Like they have a Ph.D in whatever field for the job they're going for"
He said point blank they would do that, he is one. People weren't listening.
Regardless, I do think this guy has narcissistic traits, even if he exaggerates them. Since most narcs don't seek help, I am happy to see a unique view into the mind of one.
Edit: also if you notice he attacks the documentary guy about "his" credentials. I'm not a doctor, I can't speak on what the real reasoning is. However I feel like the image of extreme self love is more of a vanier. Deep down he has extreme feelings of inadequacy, that he covers up with extreme bluster and confidence. As he said "you're a threat to me" he's a threat because he reminds him of his OWN inadequacy, something that he desperately hides. He has no real credentials and bought his certificate.
"You're not a real film maker, you have no real credentials, you don't know what youre talking about"
I score 36 on the psychology charts and this guy score low on psychopathy and high on attention seeker, he's playing a character to not be seen as the vulnerable man he really is.
Do you mean 36/40 on the PCLR-2?
Yeah it's just his narcissim acting out
Christopher Ramos: The Hare Psychopathy Scale??? What "psychology charts"?
@@larakeller2478 I don't have to answer anything to you. So get lost
I am grateful that he allows science to take a peak into his life and his mind. It doesn't happen often.
imagine making a diagnosis for psychopathy a life goal. L
I was married to someone just like him. Thank God I finally left him! I was miserable!
Personal attack on the film maker, never argue with a psychopath, bcs they love to fight, stand firm to your choice, never show feelings, keep your cards close to your chest, always.
He is no psychopath. He is just a insecure man with mama issues and narcisstic personality disorder
The range of error in personality test scores from an individual like Vaknin is vast. He knows exactly what each and every question and answer mean.
Despite his diploma mill PhD, he really does know his stuff. He would excel on any oral or written test over the contents of the DSM.
Agreed
I think you're right.
Exactly.
Kenneth Bianchi, one of the Hollside Stranglers, and not a particularly bright guy, managed to con a psychiatrist into believing he had what was called at the time multiple personality disorder. I have had some professional dealings with psychopaths in the past, and the claims in these comment threads by individuals claiming to be psychopaths are quaint. It's become one of those disorders that is attractive for people to lay claim to on social media, because it's claimants feel powerful in doing so.
The reality is that a psychopath can be dangerous in various ways, but is at root a self centered, peevish child who is tiresome to be around.
It's interesting because I've seen some official primary psychopaths online disprove that Sam Vaknin is one and the best evidence against him being one is at this time stamp 39:09 .
The documentary suggests that he showed cold emotion within the brain scans but that's not the result that was being displayed. Like his wife, he was showing the normal range of emotions and only flatlines later. This implies he can feel empathy but picks and chooses when to be callous which is otherwise beyond a Psychopath's capability as their brain wiring would disallow them from feeling empathy at all.
In fact, the documentary skims over this detail but suggests that when Sam was placed into MRI, he started off badly and so he was given more than one chance (Likely because he was showing normal emotional responses in those instances).
I’m not sure how valid those questionnaires are when you are familiar with them, you have a high IQ and are looking for a certain outcome. I think this would go some way to invalidating the results.
You’re absolutely right. I remember when I was being evaluated to get diagnosed for ADD, I too had to fill in a questionnaire. And I don’t have a high IQ but it was SO easy to just seek out the answers that’ll get you a diagnosis and the one’s that don’t. So I’m pretty sure he as wered those questions to his own benefit
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Psychopath simply means you lack empathy and are numb to emotions to an extreme degree, extremely disconnected to others.
If you are high intelligent and also know about psychology and this questions, you can fool with the questionair and clinical psychologist.
This psychologist was also not very clever and insightful, knowledgeable, wise abd so on.
So, they can not make even a correct assesment of some one.
Especially not when dealing with a high functioning psychopath, who is more intelligent then her and more prone to just lie.
@@godofdogs6198
This is untrue. Psychopaths have emotions, they're not numb to them either. The numb to emotions ones are those with schizoid PD and they're also disconnected due to indifference and lack of enjoyment out of things.
The psychopath lacks empathy and is therefore disconnected because of that, but they're all but indifferent. You can definitely anger one and for them to chase you and get revenge.
That is the opposite of being indifferent and being numb to emotions.
She needs to work on self love and get away from him..the exact advice he has given others dealing with narcassists..hes draining the life out of her!!
I realized by observing Sam Vaknin that psychopaths and narcissists are hyper sensible and very coward people.
I'm not a coward any day of the week maybe we will meet some day when I'm in a mood and your ego driven eyes will give you away like so many that oh snap this scrawny guy don't care and then its call the cops or security....wet dreams and all .
He has helped so many people. Plus, he's honest, humorous, a gifted genius. To overcome childhood abuse like this can be very difficult. He coined the word "Narcissistic Abuse," & "flying monkeys," ....he helps victims to heal. I support Sam Vaknin & enjoy his personality & information.
It's amazing how easy it is to admire such a thing from afar. To live with such dis-regulation is another thing all together.
Don't fall for his bullshit. You just watch a persona, who speaks alone in front of the camera. He is definitely not a fun guy to be around
I'm fascinated with the great work Sam produces, but I'm now at the point I don't think he can blame his childhood totally on the people around him, especially his mother. He was wired wrong when still in the womb. My heart goes out to him. I can't imagine living life the way he has. I think he has gotten better control over his weaknesses in the past year, as he seems to enjoy interacting with other people especially young people, but he's still far from recovered. He never will be.
He is an abuser. You must be a psychopath yourself
46:18 I immediately picked out the victim too... uh oh....🤨. Actually, I may not be so alone. The other people walked with more confidence so it was easy. Anyway, anybody else pick the vulnerable person out immediately? I sure hope so....
Same
I did and I am mildly autistic. I shouldn't be able to. BS test.
Right away here too, that was weird
I picked her out and immediately thought uh-oh when it was confirmed.
So he doesn't have a real PHD and even admitted to it before but flew off the handle when people questioned him about it 🙄 That's crazy making right there.
Those types of people will tell you the sky is red even if it's clearly blue. And they'll get angry with you if you try to say they are wrong. It's kind of funny. I try not to laugh at them because I care for my personal safety.
Wikipedia still lists his PhD as real when it's not
@Karl Rossman nice try but it's back...
@Karl Rossman
Thats not very nice Karl. After 5 years of seeing him for counseling, and all my emotional healing, you took that all away by pressing delete. Im back where i started, hope youre happy! 😔
@@edwardowen2
Wait.....so its back? I was under the care of s phd?
✌😄✌.... Dont pull that again Karl.
His insatiable need too be validated only reveals how truly insecure and needy he really is. Seems too me, that he has societal issues. Can't make friends so becomes combative. It's the only way he feels accomplished and accepted.
Cindy montano good job. He is deeply, dangerously insecure. A real psychopath would not tell you they are one. He is very disordered, though. Sad.
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Cindy montano
Moses Hilow actually, it is not that they have no emotion whatsoever. Born with an under responsive automatic nervous system- they do not show a dynamic range of emotions. However, this does not mean they are not feeling! Do you mean empathy? They show aggression. That’s what you get- but they are unstable and depressed most often. I am only generalizing about psychopaths as a whole.
@@shawnaellcey6970 I'm a real Psychopath, diagnosed 20 yeras ago. Normal psychopath are not diagnosed, so they don't know that they are psychopath. They think they are normal so they can't tell you. ATM (and for the last 2 years) I'm depressed and lost the 3 most important of my 7 emotions and feelings (especially my greed). I'm not able to work or go out, so I sit at home at the internet and play my last card I have "hey I'm a diagnosed Psychopath" to get attention. You see, there could be reasons for telling it.
His tantrum when he was busted about his PhD was amusing.
You know enjoying someone elses pain is a trait of psychopathy....just saying.
@@doloreskjar9673 As is shaming people on the internet.
Really, i didnt know that was one of the traits. If it is how did they diagnose psychopaths prior to the internet?
@@doloreskjar9673 Enjoying shaming other people and feeling smug about oneself doesn't require the internet.
@@seekingthemiddleway4048
Well it did in this case....
SeekingDeezNutz!
Let him believe whatever he wants. Just keep him away from society! It’s a game for him. You’re falling into his trap.
I-I-I-I everything is about him.
@ggg whatev Yea me too!!!
@ggg whatev but I love his channel,it's very useful
@@Србомбоница86 Hmmm, his channel should be taken with a grain of salt. He cannot help but sometimes project his personality deficiencies onto healthy individuals. His narcissism (and psychopathy if there's any) indeed aren't curable (not because there is no treatment, but because it requires him to commit to it by being prepared to think less of himself and concede some control to his potential therapist, which he is not willing to do). Due to this incurability of his, he claims for some of the other disorders that can be treated with success that they are incurable (as much as his disorder is) but this is not true.
He can probably understand, but can't integrate and therefore accept the concept of imperfection, because his "false self" is an infallible perfection, whereas his "true self" is diametrically opposite - a total failure. He can't find the imperfect golden middle because it doesn't exist within him. Therefore he draws the conclusion that people can't be cured of some mental health issues like borderline personality disorder or co-dependency, because his expectation is that a cured person should be 100% perfectly cured, while the reality is that none of us are perfect and even upon completion of treatment, a person will still be imperfect, just within a healthier, normal range of imperfect.
@@donato286 he is a pure psychopath ,I guarantee it , just highly functional.Negative comments about him make no sense to me ,I agree with the rest of your comment,but he IS a psychopath,of course he expects absolute perfection and no golden middle exists for him since his emotional palate is bland
@@Србомбоница86 To address the matter of negative comments, depending on what we mean by negative comments, some of those that address specifically his poor behaviors do make sense (he's not absolved from negative judgment of his behaviors as none of us are, irrespective of any mental diagnoses). Anyone who does something antisocial should expect to be met with social (and sometimes legal) judgment and there's no way around that because it's a social (and again, legal) norm.
I should say that I personally make a distinction between negative comments and demeaning comments. I think it's a good distinction to keep in mind. Negative comments are keeping us accountable as members of society, demeaning comments should be avoided (after all, that's exactly the kind of poor behavior Sam exhibits in this documentary).
I'm not sure though how to interpret "he IS a psychopath, of course he expects absolute perfection" in the context of what I said (him projecting, i.e. introducing his psychopathic expectations of perfectionism into his conclusions about (un)treatability of some mental disorders).
If this means your awareness that he's projecting and that his conclusions indeed should be taken with a grain of salt, we are on the same page.
If you mean it in a sense that pointing it out to you in particular is redundant as you are aware, I understand, and if that's the case I'm hoping that what I wrote may be helpful to someone else whose filters are still not "there", so to speak.
If I'm missing something in my interpretation of your words, do let me know.
In this day & age, never trust anyone who has bad teeth and money. It's a little lesson I learned throughout my life...
I have good teeth and am always broke, I guess I'm good, lol 😅
@Fapnado most of my diet is carbs and I have good teeth.
@Fapnado complex carbs don't cause tooth decay, I think you are talking about straight up sugar.
😂😂😂
Invisiline is cheaprr than braces. Go on, pay for it, Sam. Ive seen older men with money and braces. 3 x's over. Lol
I wonder if he ever was a millionaire or if that's narcissistic delusion.
Ryan Black a mock narcissistic delusion
Psychopaths lie. They can cause a lot of havoc because they gain people's trust quickly, then strike, and take off with the loot before anyone notices. I knew a girl in university who embezzled 10k from a cultural club that she had no cultural ties to. She joined because she thought the guys were cute. Beforehand, I was complaining to my brother in law who is a lawyer, he said 'Whatever you do, don't put your name as a signing officer of the club's bank account, she sounds like she's a fraud and will use you as a lackey.' I'm glad I listened to him.
He's not lying. Not in the way you consider lying. He is bored and annoyed so he makes up a story to get rid of his internal vulcanos.
@@icicle8384 Coincidentally, that form of "making up a story" is known as pathological lying. Still lying, but definitely not the same as lying for a reason that we all engage in to various degrees.
His family probably was close. He definitely was not. He is too un even and unfocused it seems. Meh maybe I’m wrong. I’d doubt he created wealth on his own. Hmm I haven’t either LOL. He is a mess
You guys are having your viewpoint shaped by the flim maker. He is a Narcissistic Psychopath & has deep understanding of how they think, their inner dialogue, behaviors & much more that is not based on anyone elses work & is his own & usually accepted later by many top psychologist. He does this by studying himself, along with others. Its like having a deep conversation with Pete Rose, and not a sports writer, when it comes to Baseball. He has insight that cant always be obtained from a book.
he's channel is a wealth of insight for those struggling to understand what the motivations and innate differences of those with cluster B. it's very interesting how he's giving brutally honest advice to partners of abusive narcissists... I've found myself crying during them as I feel so stupid to fall for such a common problem, I over complicated it in my mind to think we were the exceptional couple. it was all a fantasy.
I've been intensely watching Sam's videos for the past month listening to his assessments about Israel-Palestine-Hamas. It took over a month before YT algorithms managed to display this very interesting documentary about the more 'real' Sam. Thank you for giving me an insight into the real him at least from 13 years ago. The fact that you didn't share anything his family shared with you and I haven't been able to find anything about their POV, says a lot about his estrangement from his siblings. I feel sorry for Lidjia yet I understand her love for him and her need to be with him. Sam is very attractive when he's acting more normal. She's also at the age now she wouldn't have any other option. And I do think that Sam does love and need her in his own way, but he'd be very very difficult to live with even today. I knew he didn't complete his residency to be a physician, but I didn't know he didn't quite complete his PhD and that it was the equivalent of going through a diploma mill education service. How sad that someone with his incredible intelligence and focus is trapped in his own self-abusive life. Now I understand why he self markets himself the way he does and why virtually all of the main stream media and other top notch thinkers stay away from him. The talk he gave Romanian young people a year or so ago was excellent. When he's good he's great, but his verbal outbursts to people is terrible. I no longer wonder why his relationship with Richard Grannon ended suddenly.
I feel bad for the mouse.
I did too, Rose :( Safe to assume we're not psychopaths :)
I agree poor mouse! But, when I try to describe what being in a relationship with a narcissist looks or feels like I use the car and mouse analogy. What most normal people think that looks like is the cat chasing the mouse while the mouse outsmarts him like a tom and jerry cartoon because they've never witnessed it. My discription it's like the cat has the mouse between it's paws and it's turning him into piece of gray chewing gum. This is how you feel after narcissistic abuse!
@Rose Marshall.. I know.. Its the empath it you.. 🤗
Me too. It looked like cute playing at first, until you see the final result. Director should have broken it up!
Be careful. You could be the target of a NPD psychopath. I should have listened to the warning signs myself. People that have no empathy for animals show themselves clearly.
All Psychopaths and Sociopaths are Narcissists, but not all Narcs are Psychopaths/Sociopaths.
In the grand scheme of things, it doesn't matter. Toxic is toxic. Get free, & stay No Contact forever.
Amen !!!
My uncle was exactly like this. I walked away. He died recently. Sad to say I don't miss him.
Doesn't sound sad that you don't miss him. Sounds reasonable and healthy. Would you miss a malignant tumor?
It does seem odd to market oneself as a narcissist and a psychopath. Most people who can be categorized as these things prefer to have such a diagnosis to be unknown to all they encounter to better practice their dastardly deeds. It's like he wants to be the cuddly psychopath who is quirky and charming while telling everyone of his brilliance and danger, which makes me think he is a poser cashing in on societal curiosity about such things.
A psychopath does not even care to be labled as a psychopath. He does not care. He does not care, what others feel about him to be a psychopath. He only cares what he can get out of others or situations. He is thinking in functionality.
Very interesting, I was on a channel called Diane's channel and she had H.G. Tudor on there last week. Who is also a proclaimed Narcissist Psychopath. It was extremely informative. To hear his analogy on things. The fact that Sam is aware of his behavior or his repetitive doings is very telling to me. He knows that he is callus, manipulative, and preys upon the meek and weak. But all can fall prey. They have a certain charm as well,which is odd to me. Great video 🥰❤
I strongly believe they know what they are doing because they are very strategic and plan in advance and patient until they literally kill You emotionally, mentally. That’s the drive, of winning. Have heard one saying: she needs that dynamic in her life. That’s all that matters. And the base of any relationship they have.
Sam is more so a classic narcissist than a clinical psychopath, although the disorders do overlap. The irony is of course, that the only people who ever seem to call themselves "psychopaths" are narcissists, and never actual psychopaths. The claim in and of itself usually reveal such a personality disorder. I see this time and time again. Often because they want to seem "cool," "special," and "fascinating/mysterious."
In one of his videos, he said: I'm diagnosed Psychopath Narcissist, it's cought on tape.
No psychopath would run out publicly and expose themselves.
I need to stop watching this video now. Its such a joke
I think the documentary may be providing some misleading information regarding the subject of Psychopathy. Sam is likely not a Psychopath but most likely a Malignant Narcissist given his fragile ego. It's interesting because I've seen some official primary psychopaths online disprove that Sam Vaknin is one and the best evidence against him being one is at this time stamp 39:09
The documentary suggests that he showed cold emotion within the brain scans but that's not the result that was being displayed. Like his wife, he was showing the normal range of emotions and only flatlines later. This implies he can feel empathy but picks and chooses when to be callous which is otherwise beyond a Psychopath's capability as their brain wiring would disallow them from feeling empathy at all.
In fact, the documentary skims over this detail but suggests that when Sam was placed into MRI, he started off badly, so he was given more than one chance (Likely because he was showing normal emotional responses in those instances).
Same goes for teenage edgelords, usually autistic 🙃
He has never said any other time, that he is a psychopath. Only a narcissist.
In videos on his channel he said several times that he is malignant narcissist, and psychopathic narcissist. He at least once said that that being a psychopathic narcissist is the best combination, because that enables him to easily recognize both psychopaths and narcissists.
He said it in some older video's that he is a psychopath. A psychopath can also include narcissism of course. In his newer video's he says he is a narcissist. I think that he just avoids to say psychopath. I do not know why.
He says they are all the same.
Reddit brought me here, and I'm so glad they did 😂👏
JWitt30 Same lmao
me too
He is such a narcissist that he didn't even understand the trap 😂😂😂. That psychologist was fabulous!
you know, it may just be me, but I'm not sure a real psychopath would be like "I'm manipulating you, idiot! ahah look how narcissistic I am! so crazy! wow" seems like something a normal psychopath would keep on the dl. I have a strong feelings his psych test was so high because he gave the answers he thought they needed to hear. he wants to fit the mold of something he isn't in order to excuse the fact that he's just a normal, boring, jerk. what do I know though? I don't have a fake PhD on it.
exactly !!
To this day I am still questioning if my brother suffers from BPD/a major narcissistic personality disorder or if he is truly a psychopath. He has left a path of destruction, pain and hurt with pretty much everyone who has crossed paths with him. They say that psychopaths don't feel empathy and can mimic or fake it.
I can see so many similarities with Sam's personality (lying, self-agrandizing behavior but low-self esteem, gaslighting, agressive/standoffish, some impulsive behavior yet calculating, etc.) . My brother knows the difference between right and wrong and I think he can understand when he has hurt someone but it's like he doesn't care. Most of the time he actually takes pleasure in doing so and it actually makes him feel better, it seems to lift up his own low self-esteem. He knows how to hurt someone in the most horrible ways, it's terrible, yet women keep going after him. I've never understood it.
To the victims who have gotten out or to their families, I send you much love and courage. It is an exhausting experience of constantly being gaslit, put down, only to be brought back up and reeled back in. They have to take responsibility for their actions (if at all possible) and be willing to seek help. If not, you have to distance yourself for the sake of your own mental health, no matter how painful that may be.
I recommend the channel: _Psychopathy Is_ I found their videos to be incredibly informative, interesting, and compassionate. It's difficult for those of us with psychopathic loved ones to get evidence-based information about this vilified and misunderstood condition. They interview people who have psychopathy, people who have loved ones (a child or spouse) who have psychopathic traits. As well as psychopathy researchers and mental health experts. I found this video and Dr. Barron's other video about psychopathy 'treatment modalities' to be some of the best descriptions I've found to describe my experience. Hope this helps.
Ask a psychiatrist - How do you diagnose psychopathy? - ua-cam.com/video/o9nLlM7hDiY/v-deo.html
@@invisiblemissx Thanks! I'll definitely have a look. It's a tough condition to deal with when it comes to family members. Trying to understand why they do the things they do can be difficult. The minute you say 'psychopathy' people automatically think of Bateman in 'Psycho'😉 lol. Thanks for the recommendation Miss X.
People with BPD are very empathetic. Don't get those things mixed. I have all 9 traits of BPD but 0 traits of narcissism.
@rainremnant177 Hi rain, thanks for your comment. I do realize that people with BPD are capable of empathy. I certainly did not mean to mix the two. What I meant to say is that like in many mental health conditions, many traits/symptoms can overlap which can sometimes make it difficult to distinguish what is going on (ex. periods of depression, black and white thinking, impulsive behavior, etc. These can be seen in several conditions right?).
What I struggle to understand with my brother is that he seems to want to show empathy (or remorse) but I'm not sure if he genuinely feels it, feels it in a 'warped' way or simply 'mimics' empathy in a learned sort of way so that he can somewhat function? It's like he knows what he does is hurtful to others (not always but sometimes) but the other person always deserved it or he doesn't really care to/can't understand what it's like for others to undergo the pain that he inflicts so it just doesn't seem to bother him. He always has to be the victim (gaslight) when confronted or there's always a valid reason to do what he does whenever it comes time to feel empathy. His reality is never the same as ours so there's always an excuse for his behaviour, therefore no ownership. I hope that makes sense.
Can’t help psychopaths , that’s what they are , you got people trying to block you from getting a job only to try to send you hunger as flyers
First statement: I love to be hated and I hate to be loved. I am indifferent. - You are a dichotomy.
He doesnt seem like a psychopath. He is more of a attention seeking brat.
And i feel like the filmmaker indeed has a wrong approach on this whole psychopathy thing.
Why was he shocked, that sam was trying to bully him and why was he complaining about it, like he was on the verge of crying in front of him? Gave him the control and the attention he wants.
This made the docu kinda pointless.
He is a psychopath ,a malignant narcissist is a psychopath
"I`m not sure I would ask you for copies" (of the film) LOL Yes you will, Sam. Yes you will.
I like Sam because he is so real, intelligent and a great communicator. In this insane world there are many people in places of power who are clear narcissists and psychos that are very dangerous. Sam is not dangerous.
You need to check yourself
Vaknin takes advantage of naive, guillable people like you
He loves to be hated and hates to be loved so everything's go swimmingly in his world.
Duped yet once again...
This journey to freedom and the realities one must endure are mind bending. Thanks for this documentary. It brings a person back to center.
The guys a bread and butter narcissist nothing more, I think the fact he overreacted when asked about his PhD shows perfectly he is not inpervious to criticism.
Thank you for telling me who the real Sam Vaknin is.
Mr. Vaknin is also a highly knowledgeable person ... it seems like this documentary talks about his dark side and shows his lack of empathy for others’ feelings. However, he is very very smart man and you may learn a thing or two from him. If he is faking his knowledge - then I’m not sure about those who don’t anymore 🤣. Ps: nobody outhere is “normal”. If humans were; we wouldn’t be in this mess!
Narcissists want to control and destroy, his wife was destroyed bcs of parents with npd, she have Borderline Personality Disorder, those use to get married to Narcissists.
Humans don't like the truth, that's why they can't stand Sam. Sam shows to us the naked truth, no polish.
I feel like his traits could just be imitations of what his abusive parent was like or an approximation of how he was treated
He may be faking his diploma but not knowlegde. Only when I listen to Sam I understand my own husband.
Whoever filmed that cat killing that mouse for this documentary is the psychopath.
That mouse fought a good fight 😂
Agreed.. I'd of had to save the mouse
Mmhmm! They probably thought it was pure documentary gold; like some real deep stuff...
Either _that_ or, if you listen carefully, you can hear some dude furiously beating off to it in the background.
@CrucibelleI'm just guessing, but it may have been stunned by a swipe from the cat we didn't see. It also may have been a defence mechanism. When cornered or not likely to escape, some animals freeze in a last-ditch effort, sort of like playing dead. The more the mouse moves, the more it'll trigger the cat's instinctual hunting response.
Would that imply everyone who films nature documentaries are psychopaths? :o
The real question is whether he is as intelligent as he claims.
Simple answer- NO
His own narcissism compromises his assessments as a physiologist or as a serious mind.
Seriously people, there are other minds who understand more than SAMMY BOY on the subject matter of narcissism.
He is a mind that knows how to exploit his times at best, a hustler.
You may not like his affect, but he is brilliant. His IQ was tested when he was a child, it was in the high 180's. He went to university when he was nine years old - in Israel - they had no idea what else to do with him. There is a series of talks he did with Richard Grannon years ago where he talks about his background. It's fascinating, and really sad.
I highly doubt there is anyone who is as skilled at speaking about narcissism as Sam is. It is a subject he LIVES with and has researched at a depth that demands respect.
So - who are you going to put up against Sam? Have you even watched his channel or read any of his work?
Diana Diamond.
There is a channel called-
Borderlinenotes.
Sam has-a massive blind-spot due to his own narrcisism. High IQ is just the base criteria for the particular kind of perception needed. He has no peer reviews and doesn't actual practice as a therapist of any sort.
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Where exactly on this channel you mentionned, can i find something on Sam Vaknin ?
Thanks
He really fancies himself as some sort of genius 🤣
Not even half way in the video and I know he is just typical narcissists trying to be grandiose so he can get rich,stroke his ego and attract more victims.
Trust me, he isn't one... he comes off as more of a narcissist.
First he claimed to be a narcissist. Now he's reved up his game 🤣🤣🤣
Exactly what I thought when I started watching this.
But he was diagnosed as both a psychopath & a Narcissist.
@@doloreskjar9673 All psychopaths are narcissists too but most narcissists are not psychopaths. He was diagnosed as a narcissist only. There is a big jump from NPD to psychopathy.
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He was diagnosed as a psychopath as well.
Its not that big of a jump actually. They have many overlapping traits & something like 60% of narcissist are also considered either level 1 or level 2 for psychopathy.
Is his wife an victim or an enabler? Funny how he acts above everyone and then acts like a child when things don't go his way. I almost feel sorry for him.
She had me think of some kind of stockholm syndrome... so, basically: both.
Thats how they are,
Nexus Prime I just had to roll my eyes when he had a fit and locked himself in the bathroom. My granddaughter is 8 and has more sense than that! His wife? I feel so sad that she is happy to settle for that bag of #%^*
His wife grew up with parents, who has the same, she have bpd and those use to get married to Narcissists, the females with bpd grew up with a narchisstic mother.
Nexus that is their game exactly!
Sam Vaknin is da man, say whatever you want but he has huge amount of knowledge about narcissists, when i started watching his content things started to make sense for the first time.
Marrying one,takes it to a level of madness thats unexplainable.
As an empathic person Sam Vaknin is fascinating. I have 3 narcissistic ppl in my life, I keep them far away from me. One ended up stalking me though
As a narcissist he is apt to fake on that psychopathy test to make his score higher even if he says that he expected to fail. He’s lying. He WANTS to be a psychopath, he’s a narc and it makes him feel special, unique, gets him attention. Honestly, he’s boring.
psychopaths dont get defensive about questions, such as asking about a phd.
Yes they do lol they are also NPD . HE IS PART OF THE DARK TRIAD. He has a need for admiration aka histrionic
The behaviour exhibited by Vaknin was a replica of my ex ! Heart went out to the film maker as he was verbally and psychologically abused ...I can still remember that brain freezing rush of fear as the abuser whips up an unexpected and irrational conflict and hones in for the kill even years later ! Vaknin is a monster ....an intellectual high functioning one but a monster nonetheless. He was obviously rattled by the questioning of his having a Ph.D credential; his defensiveness and offence says it all ...? Great documentary with some real luminaries of the research field included.
Some called the narcissists, demons in human flesh, they never act like an human.
Tove Naerwick, they ARE demon possessed! They need deliverance! 💯%
I suggest GOD's Heart Tv or Emmanuel tv to receive deliverence! It is called having a " familiar spirit"! And it is a demon, a very real one!
Just an arrogant man, who loves the sound of his own voice.
So a narcisist, aka psycopathy light.
he's genius ua-cam.com/video/W89fG8220D8/v-deo.html
@@nayag.4190 More of a lying hack
He's really just honest. Realist. He also provides spectacular insight into NPD in his YT channel.
See those videos he have about npd, learn and save victims. Those like to see others in pain.
No is he is a two year old having tantrums and no genius for sure. And a liar 🤥
And..at the end of the day....who wants to waste their time with trying to understand an unpleasant person like Sam...focus on the wonderful people in our society...not the bottom feeders like Sam.
Sam Vaknin is able to self analyse which is very rare even in normal personnalities... The reason why he is able is because our mind operate not only on the biological level, and on the soul level, but on the spiritual level too... Each one of us, psychopath or not, we live on three worlds : the social and biological actor with a mask, and on a spiritual level with the spirit... The "I" can chose one against the other, as the robotic man on the street , or deep mystics absorbed in the source , or be in a state where we stay conscious alternatively of our own internal duality... Reincarnation exist also...It seems Sam Vaknin is able to be conscious about his compulsion to act in some way...Why not ? i listen to iceman Kuklinski confession , and he was conscious of a void in himself too... We have many lifetimes to become what we really are...If it was not the case, psychopath will be a spiritual enigmas unsolvable ... What remain though a problem in one life can look for his solution in another life... Consciousness is the intuition of this solution crossing a higher level than the mere biological and social mindset , even serial killers know or could discover they are ill... Sam Vaknin introspection has his limits as for any of us but can be very helpful to listen to and in fact more helpful for most than perhaps my own healthy person introspection ... He is highly intelligent... I look at his youtube with interest and criticism too ...
I’m disappointed that they didn’t go into his childhood. I don’t believe these people are always born.
I have spend 23 years with his physiological twin - it was dark time 13 years past now I am still recovering, if you want to be a good mum, please never rase children with them.
I love this guy. Intelectually speaking. He is brilliant and I appreciate him to share the info. For my own journey he has been a great part of my recovery.
Is Sam really a crank or just a malignant narcissist? I knew someone like him, he pretended he was interested in what I did, but the minute his attitude turned, I knew something was off. When he started getting angry at me for nothing, I said, "Well I guess that's too bad." It shut him up then and there, because he knew he wouldn't be able to use me for a punching bag. I'd dealt with people like him before.
Malignant Narcissist. He shows vengeful callousness, grandiosity, and self entitlement but also shows an extremely fragile ego given the amount of tantrums he throws throughout the documentary which aren't traits related to Psychopathy at all. He essentially embarked on this journey to just get the diagnosis in order to inflate his own ego but the results from the brain scans at 39:09 speak for themselves. He had the normal range of empathetic emotions just like his wife. :P
I am surprised so many people do not think he is a psychopath just because he thinks he's one. Yes it's unusual for them to come forward, but not impossible? Also he had a brain scan. If he were faking it, I think that would show up. Also i think that the test he took probably would show it if he were trying to fake results too. ?
as far as his blow ups, it seems like that's how he makes others into victims. The other problem with being around a psychopath is that they don't necessarily look or seem like one. But it's in the actions, do they have any sense of conscious, not how they look.
Lmao @ the look on Dr. Kirkman's face at 29:29 when she says, "She claims he's the best person that she's ever met!"
Sam's wife is a victim of social programming just like every other woman who grows up watching Disney movies and waiting for Prince charming. That is all a fantasy and unrealistic, but that doesn't mean you have to settle for some psychopathic jerk who is incapable of love and just sees you as an object.
She clearly didn’t have the childhood you described…
Narcissists need love too ❤
Tough love.
People have accused me of being a psychopath... lol I have ADHD, Aspergers (autism) and OCD
This guy isn't a psychopath either tbf, just another crusty narcissist who finds something romantic in the idea of psychopathy and by extension creates his pseudo identity around it. Aspergers has more in common with psychopathy than many want to admit, certainly more than the narcissism/psychopathy relationship imo
@@user-kd3gz1hl1e "just another crusty narcissist" that needs to be his true diagnosis too lmao 🤣
People I know and love have those 3 disorders (not to say psychopaths aren't loveable I just don't know any) and for people to accuse you of psychopathy for having those way more common disorders is obnoxious
As someone w/ autism I’ve got psychopath/sociopath behaviors & use them for several reasons such as; to not be taken advantage of & understanding things in different perspectives.
Adhd anxiety and trauma , ppl don’t realize I’m only running around in a hyper focused state not trying to step on ppl I just do and I feel bad other times I’m like oh well I need to keep pushing or I’ll get depressed over it
“I love to be hated. I hate to be loved. I’m indifferent”
Yeah bud, clearly zero fucks 😂
lol, 😄😃😅
Love Sam's videos so helpful and honest!
He reminds me of my landlord, who has been stalking and sleepdeprivated me for 10 years, the police are involved now.
He is so much well mannerd and respectful on his channel. Here he was trying a little bit to hard to look like a ahole
Honest? He’s a con man. He tries to fake being what he claims and does such a bad job he looks more like a psych ward resident
Frieda, no he is not trying, he IS!
So let me just say you can't cheat on an MRI but it is incredibly easy to cheat on the psychopathy checklist. You could teach a six year old over the course of a day.
True but the only problem is that I don't think he was able to. The documentary suggests that he showed cold emotion within the brain scans but that's not the result that was being displayed. Like his wife, he was showing the normal range of emotions and only flatlines later.
This implies he can feel empathy but picks and chooses when to be callous which is otherwise beyond a Psychopath's capability as their brain wiring would disallow them from feeling empathy at all.
True I get so sick of those stupid questions every visit too my lead drug dealer psychiatrist whatever they are .
Sam sounds like every Eastern European I’ve met. Pretty much! Too honest, giving everyone a list about what they’re like and who they are… just everything. It’s a cultural thing. I know he’s Israeli but still, very Eastern European. I’m from one of those countries. I know many families including my own. Sometimes my own sincerity gets me into trouble and to be honest it’s a language thing: you translate in English and it’s sounds so direct and harsh.
His parents were born in Turkey and Morocco. They were not born in Eastern Europe.
The Narcissism is strong in this one. But I'm not feeling the psychopathy. He comes off way too desperate needy for validation. Plus he throws tantrums like a toddler which is what a narcissist basically is
I went on Quora to see what other officially diagnosed Psychopaths thought of him.
Most of them weren’t convinced by his authenticity.
In fact, most of them believed that he was just a Malignant Narcissist which is similar but completely different from Psychopathy.
@@Jackal_El_Lobo34 And I agree 👌 Plus a true psycho wouldn't want attention for it, Don't they usually prefer to stay hidden?
@@HaileyBabi Yes. Blending in is a given for a Psychopath if they intend to get something or assimilate within society. So they need to adapt.
A primary psychopath truly doesn’t care about what other people think of them.
One psychopath by the name of Athena Walker answered this question on Quora and made it clear that attention just annoys her and to desire validation stems from a low self esteem which only narcissists have because they can feel emotion. They just deliberately choose to not be empathetic.
I quit his channel because although he offered a lot of information it exhausting; his energy
Fascinating. Bless your heart. A tough one. Thank you for enduring torment & whatever lasting harm to yourself it may cause. You video has helped me tremendously. I sincerely appreciate you.