You are already getting spammed into oblivion I see, but really choosing Manjaro instead of EndeavourOS, ARCO or Garuda is a bad decision nowadays. Although I would not really recommend the last two, as I didn't use ARCO and Garuda is a pain in the as in terms of you not knowing, wtf did your distro do with the base arch system. In Garuda my terminal/VSCode fonts broke once and I couldn't even remotely understand wtf was going on. Nobody on the forums even understood, how the hell did it happen, so I migrated to Endeavour. And to be perfectly honest, if you can use Fedora, Endeavour is easy for you to use. A lot of the stuff you need and nothing you don't out of the box. The Arch base actually never broke on me. I once accidentally uninstalled SDDM, but that was definitely a me problem. I managed to do the same on Fedora afterwards. Therefore, if you ever want an Arch experience without putting the whole car together at the start, Endeavour is a very solid choice. Still not a beginners distro though, as it is a bit terminal oriented.
Surprisingly I had the opposite issue with Garuda just spontaneously functioning more than I would expect and EndeavourOS having inexplicable issues. Garuda is really one of the best linux distros for at least having a working OS at the end of the day.. (if you're not unlucky with your hardware)
Garuda is notorious for having terrible support as well. Imagine all of the condescending douchebaggery of the arch forums, but without even an ounce of the capability. Arch forums will patronize you and insult you and also give you a complete set of instructions for troubleshooting your issue and offer several solutions. Garuda, you'll just be patronized and never offered any assiatance.
I'm currently using Fedora Server on my Server and Nobara (Fedora based gaming distro) on my Laptop and PC. I used arch before but NVIDIA + Wayland + Arch = unusable hell
That part made me laugh. But it's kinda accurate too, except it's not targeting you, it's targeting big businesses that would save money by having red hat solve their technical issues for them
Void is great. Very little bloat and not exactly as bleeding edge as Arch (I don't like broken systems) + it starts faster bc of runit. Öö, Suomea ei mainittu, mutta tavataan torilla kuitenkin!
@@joelkronqvist6089I use arch (btw) and in all 5 years of using it have never once had a breakage i didn’t directly cause. Arch is a hell of a lot more stable than ppl give it credit for.
"Read the documentation", including "read the manual" is actually a secret codeword which translates to "I acknowledge that what you're trying to do is not intuitive, however I can't be bothered to explain it and nobody has bothered to actually make it intuitive so I'm going to say something that seems like it's useful advice at face in the hopes that you go away.". Just puttin' that out there.
I'm not even a Linux user (yet), but I 1000% agree. I code and oh boy the amount of people who say that is insane. I mean, what about you give some actual advice? That's why I came to the forum in the first place. Asking people who know can be THE fastest way to learn.
@@FranksCreativeCorner My basic outlook is that the only people who should ever be coding anything are the people who like coding for some reason. For anything along the lines of a game making software, there should always be at least an attempt to provide a way to use it that doesn't involve writing code. Writing code should obviously still be available and it's okay if the no-code version is more limited than the code verison, but it should be there.
@@panmeekNah he has a point. Manjaro is know for doing oopsies. like DDOSing the AUR. forgeting to renew their keys. imploding when you have mismatched packages due to them delaying packages by 2 weeks in combination when you installed things from the AUR. and the list goes on.
You're not an arch person unless you installed the os yourself, and not from a manjaro or endeavouros installer. But you can still say it, no one's going to question you because nobody fucking cares
it's literally the same thing with arch or any other arch based distro. arch was never ment to be used as a functional, practical distro. just install debian and NEVER look back.
@@aaaaaa-hh8cq I use Arch frequently, and it's great. I very rarely encounter something I can't fix quickly, and I've never "bricked" my system like people say happens with Arch. EDIT: I use arch btw
@@Mr371312 I would've switched to endeavor/ baseline arch a long time ago if they actually booted to the live environment which they didn't so I'm stuck with manjaro
>manjaro >functioning OS Use endeavor for "arch with a good installer", archinstall for "installer that sometimes works" or my favorite CachyOS for "endeavor if it was good". Best distro IMHO
@@lpnp9477 wait I typed an essay did I not post it 😭 I had 2 points: 1. Compilation for v3 and v4 architecture which makes it measurably faster and 2. QoL. The "cachyos hello" app has a bunch of tweaks and fixes for common issues, they include some AUR packages in the repo, they have a tool for ranking mirrors and actually applying the changes automatically, they have meta packages for stuff like gaming so you don't have to install all the libraries and tools manually. I don't think the difference is very noticeable when you just play in a VM for half an hour but when you use it for a long time the experience is just better. Also you can just add their repos to your existing arch install without losing too much, but imho a clean install is better. Also if you use zsh they have oh-my-zsh built in and preconfigured. I'd say it has the benefits of arch without many of the drawbacks of arch for normal users (not everything has to be configured and ran by hand, but no one is stopping you, if you want to). In the end, it's still lightweight as pretty much nothing is preinstalled, has a better repo and it's still arch so you can delete anything you don't want to (which is like 2-3 apps if you choose not to use them). I wouldn't say migrating from endeavour (or however it's spelled...) makes much sense but if you're installing an OS on a new machine/reinstalling the OS, you might like cachy. But adding the repos anyway never hurts lol. Just make sure to install the cachyos-rate-mirrors because like the only drawback of cachy is that sometimes independent mirrors get out of sync which breaks updates 😐. There's a fix for that in the "cachyos hello" but if you don't know about it you'd have to search for it. Oh yeah, there are also multiple kernels available and you can also choose them in the "cachyos hello" for ease of use (or when installing of course)
I used Manjaro once. The people managing it blew up a lot of people's systems, it was completely unjustified and people told them exactly that, and the response was "well, should've read the notes." The notes that tell you that they're blowing up your PC. Yeah, might as well just use Arch then.
I have Manjaro installed on a $8 USB drive that I boot to with my laptop. I am currently coding software for a cutting edge particle collider. This is not a joke.
@@Sirfreelancealot On linux USBs you can re-partition the ISO to have another partition that can store data persistently, but if you dont (And dont have external storage for the USB) everything is amnesic and runs in RAM, so a poweroff or reboot erases everything and dosen't leave a trace, this is how the Tails distro achieves amnesia
@@anyvoltage8157 I think he means that usb drives typically use low-quality flash memory, and therefore don't handle many r/w cycles. As a result, data loss is very likely if you don't use backups.
Gaming on Linux isn't complicated, it mostly either works, for everything except AAA and anticheat, or not. Out of the box. Even for old Windows games you can't run on a modern Windows.
@@lpnp9477 Even then, a good majority will still work OOTB unless Asus manufactured it. For context, I have a roughly 3 year-old, all AMD Asus laptop and it'll absolutely shit itself if it has any other memory besides what the manufacturer put in and straight up won't post if more than 12GB are in it. Runs Fedora flawlessly, though.
works or not kekekek, yeah that is the problem, most of the games and windows apps don't work.. so you need to run a VM with windows or another pc to work and play games, at this point just run windows.
I had quite an adventure with Linux: - Managed to nuke my system via ‘sudo rm -rf /*’ thinking it would only remove everything inside my current dir. - Managed to get trapped inside Vim multiple times. Had to restart the computer to break free, because I didn’t have internet to ask it what to do - Managed to nuke my system answering ‘yes’ to the question ‘Do as I say’…
Trapped inside vim I get, but you managed to install linux in a console setup without being told how to switch tty? That is what saved me a lot of reboots in my starting days. (Alt+Fn (or Ctrl+Alt+Fn if in X), use Alt+sidearrow to scroll through the ttys. X is usually on tty1 or tty7 depending on your setup) That "do as I say" used to be "yes, I understand that this might harm my system" (or something similar) - kinda miss that variant of the prompt, was clearer.
i use arch btw (not fucking manjaro) edit: i now use nix btw another edit: i use arch again another another edit: i use opensuse tumbleweed btw another another another edit: i use endeavouros btw
literally nobody asked. f*ck that hellish useless unstable af "distro". I use debian btw, the godfather of stability. keep wasting your time with arch 😀😂
He was spot on when he predicted that most of us are watching this video on Android. Because Apple Mac and Iphone user is not gonna watch a video about Linux Distro.
I knew a girl who was like that. Also dressed like a stereotypical tech girl (with the socks and everything). That personality and style was sure jarring on an 11 year old kid when I was only 12 myself, lol. Had to go over to her house to hang out, my parents wouldn't let her come to our place - there wasn't an Incident, Dad just knew her type. Didn't want me hanging around her at all but couldn't come up with a reason Mum would take seriously and didn't want to die on that hill.
Recommending Manjaro is a crime. EndeavourOS is Arch with preconfigured DE's and a good installer. Manjaro has too many problems these days. Sorry if you've been getting these comments a lot, but yeah. Other than that it's a good video.
Yeah manjaro is great if you like headaches but not migraines. If you like migraines use vanilla arch. If you prefer a clear head use endeavouros, just don't ever try to update it.
@@lpnp9477 Not sure if you're reffering to updating Manjaro or Vanilla Arch/Endeavours, but updating is a major problem on Manjaro. It's good as long as you don't use AUR, but using Arch without taking advantage of AUR is pointless in my humble opinion. If you use AUR on Manjaro, held back main repo packages might ruin your AUR packages or your system. It doesn't happen on vanilla Arch and Endeavour, though there is an odd case here and there where a fresh package messes something up. But it's rare these days and you can use AUR as you like.
@dalmaronthefirst2237Manjaro gets a lot of hate basically because of 5+ year old reasons that have zero actual barring on the modern day. Linux users just like to have a stick up their ass and never forgive any fuck ups ever. Manjaro in it's early days had its SSL cert expire which is frankly a issue so minor no one actually gives a fuck unless they have said stick up their ass. And their update software accidentally caused a ddos cause of a design oversight. Which they fixed, and people won't forgive them cause how dare they not have perfect software from day 1. Manjaro on avg out lasts basically every other arch based distro when it comes to not randomly breaking from updates. It still breaks, but every arch distro breaks at some point and fucking it's not even always the distros fault. A lot of dipshits have recently taken to blaming Manjaro for breaking cause of kde and Wayland issues and incompatibility with unofficial software they installed. People also love to blame Manjaro for breaking when it's some aur packages fault as well. If you want the most normie friendly arch distro then Manjaro is your best option. If you want a power user option then endeavour. If you like cock and ball torture then just go to gento and skip over arch entirely.
I mean, if using Manjaro, you might as well use arch after a while. By using manjaro in the past, I got to learn a LOT about how arch works having to fix it when they constantly screwed up my installation. xD You know, tiny things like stuff from systemd suddenly showing up as installed from AUR and such, even though I had zero packages installed from the AUR, just small things like that... I got tired of that soooo... I now use Arch btw...
Using fedora minimal is so good that I probably will never switch my workspace to any other distro unless they f* up something really bad imagine getting debian like stability + arch like updates + good package manager + supports mostly everything that is available and can run well on server with no complications I assume well if you got confused : fedora workstation and fedora minimal is different thing it runs on my device with hyprland TWM on 500-700mb of ram and just uses 5gigs of storage with all setup ( it increases as you use system , install stuffs ofc but you got the point : its lightweight )
Since switching to Fedora 18 months ago, I've had the least amount of issues than on many other distros. Every time I've tried to use Linux Mint Cinnamon I always run into some issues. I want to like it but just can't
Contrary to what was said, NixOS is _not_ literally one big configuration file. It _can_ be one big configuration file, but if you've been using it for long enough, you've probably broken that configuration file into several smaller configuration files. (My NixOS is currently 7 configuration files, one of which does nothing but list every single Noto font.) As far as Nix is concerned though, there's no difference (so little difference that it literally won't have anything new to build).
I don't for now, but it's likely by end of summer. Which will mean that half my comments under other stuff will still consist of "I use arch btw" while I don't use arch. Or maybe I'll just remain on arch with home manager forever
There is also a nobara. It is like Pop_OS! but based on fedora instead of Ubuntu. They position it as distro for gamers (+-like pop) and content creators. Also they have version with nvidia drivers (again like pop os). Btw, have you heard about bedrock linux? Unique thing.
Currently using nobara, enjoying it quite a bit. (For context I was dual booting windows 10 with ubuntu a couple months ago, then I uninstalled ubuntu. Well like a week ago power flickered and I booted into grub rescue. couldn't boot into any drive, or windows, so I said fuck it and installed nobara.)
Correction: Arch Linux has some of the best instructions in the form of the Arch Wiki. It is much easier to follow than pretty much any other technical document I came across.
stop spreading misinfo. it doesn't matter that it has a "good wiki". no one should read a long ars wiki just to install an OS. arch is perfect for people who love wasting time
@@aaaaaa-hh8cq Your opinion of "no one should read a long ars wiki just to install an OS" is not relevant to my point that it has some of the best instructions.
@@aaaaaa-hh8cqshould we not have instructions for how to assemble a table or something? Arch lets people make the distro they want and tells them how to do that. Thats why some people use arch it gives the user all the choices instead of making hardly any for them
The most cursed setup ever: PC: - Arch Linux for everything except games - Windows 11 for games Laptop: - MacOS (mistakes were made and now I have to hold on to the worst of both hardware and software worlds just to pretend that buying this was not a financial mistake) Honestly, the only saving grace for me is that all of my work-related data gets auto-synced between laptop and PC, so I only have to use mac when I have no access to the PC...
You can also use moonlight or nomachine to access your desktop from your laptop so you don't even have to look at that cursed os for more than a minute
@@lpnp9477 sadly they won't cut it for me, as I often times have to use my laptop outside of the house, and there is no way to get a static IP address for me (at least for now)
I find Alpine Linux is the most resource-efficient, if you want a computer that does only a few things. After the initial installation it took less than 100 MB of disk. I could install XFCE for basic desktop and FireFox, and the disk usage is still about just 1GB. For comparison, when I installed Arch with XFCE, it used about 5GB.
One question about red hat linux (from a beginner), how can something be commercial/paid but open-source? When your software is distributed and modified by other people is there still some sort of a pay wall when accessing them? How is it done?
There are many ways you can do that. For example supabase (a database provider) lets you host supabase yourself on your own server but with a few features missing. RedHat developed distributions of linux and gave them for free but if you wanted support (which if you were a massive corp, was a must) you'd pay them X amount. Currently RHEL (as far as I'm aware) is not available for free use and technically is not open source, but is based on other open source technologies and pulls features from Fedora which is open source.
As a side note, "open source" afaik does not mean the source code has to be open for everybody, just the actual users of the software upon request. If you don't pay for RedHat, you are not technically entitled to the source code. This still didn't stop clone distros like Rocky Linux from appearing, but that's a whole other can of worms. Another common monetization model for open source projects is like Aseprite, where the source code is open to everyone, but you have to pay to access any precompiled binaries. You COULD just compile it yourself, but most people are not going to want or know how to.
IT support can only do so much. If something needs fixing, they cannot do it, while RedHat devs can literally fix the bug upstream (which many times they actively contribute to). Also there is bunch of certifications needed for companies and government, which doesn't come for free and also requires effort. These things are what "support" here means.
Carl Sagon best described what it is like to use Linux From Scratch " IF you want to make apple pie from scratch , first you have to invent the entire universe "
The UA-cam algorithm brought me here and I'm glad it did. I've now watched all your videos and I'm very excited to see what else will come here in the future :)
For me, debian is the toyota of linux distros, for beginners, linux mint is really good. I never gonna install manjaro ever again, because i only just did "sudo pacman -Syu" and the system broke. Currently running debian on my main machine and fedora on my second one.
Mint is also good on most chromebooks, less prone to things not working at all, looking at you manjaro. You have to go to some strange elaborate way to get some hardware to work properly in manjaro. That probably just arch in general with chromebooks.
Ubuntu server user here. Just using it cause a few programs i want to run are only availiable for ubuntu and i dont have any issues with the os so far so it works. But can somebody tell me about the privacy concerns please? I have not really heard anything about it.
After switching to Arch ive been so happy with doing pc stuff, computing was made actually fun again instead of "this is painful, i just want it to work and nothing more" like on windows, thank god i never have to deal with that level of instability that everyone pretends doesnt exist on windows ever again Linux is a goldmine of enjoyment, amazing video, loved it!!!!
The problem is when you can't make it work, like Fedora was for me. The audio always crackled when I started a game on steam, and I couldn't do anything about it.
@lpnp9477 im sorry but have you seen windows system call graphs? Arch is as stable as you make it, dont just group all unstability together like its the same
I use FreeBSD, it's like Linux but 10x more frustrating, a challenge to get up to date drivers, and lots of software is unavailable But I'll be damned if I didn't learn a lot and find a cool mascot
@@meci6625 i run freebsd via ghostbsd on my desktop. works well and feels good using bsd over linux. and freebsd has over 30.000 packages. plus the linux compatibility layer. ive used strigaht up freebsd its kinda like arch in the since you setup everything manually but its not hard plus the community for freebsd is imo better. they do not care about if its foss/gpl they just want it to work how they want it. and i like the MIT license allot better over the GPL license
@@meci6625 I believe only hackers who love to tinker would seriously use BSD as their main OS. BSD is mostly for servers with strict resource limitations since they usually take less ram and storage space than linux. BSD is great for a log less vpn on a cloud server, not as a personal OS.
@meci6625 I had to swap wifi chips in my laptop to get very slow wifi working. Plus a bit tricky for graphics drivers since my laptop has dual graphics. But for coding it's fantastic and it's insanely fast. Plus super stable, I've had debian and fedora crash on my laptop a bunch. That said, I can do the majority of things I'd do on a Linux laptop, but honestly it's not quite as convenient for some things
I've been using Arch for about 6 months now and dunno why but I'm seriously considering switching to Fedora or PopOS since past couple weeks. This will probably offend a lot of people here
No I get it. You prefer a computer to work for your intended use case rather than spend hours going in circles and getting nowhere. I would definitely use pop if I weren't addicted to gimmick laptops
Arch Wiki isn't a book of Lego instructions, though-it's a *computer science textbook.* Even the install guide says things like, "And now it's time to install a bootloader! You can read about that in this completely separate ~chapter~ webpage."
@@GSBarlev ya they are like Wikipedia... They say stuff and assume u know it and if u don't then search for a blue hyperlink u noob... Thats insult but if u get used to it then it's the best as no other distros has a wiki that huge
What shoul i do if i want to upgrade from windows to linux but iam scared of security features? (Like linux is not that secure what distro to use atd) my purpouse is gaming and little of coding.
Linux is about 100 times less likely to get hacked than windows. Make sure to choose your distro carefully because it is illegal to try more than one! (I'm kidding, try whichever one you find interesting, and if you don't like it, try another)
Weirdly enough, I've always had issues with any Distro I had, but now that I'm on Arch with Hyprland on Nvidia, everything just works. I don't even bother with gaming on Linux though. Installing it was a nightmare due to archinstall being bugged at the time, just to proceed to give me a heart attack with "formatting /dev/nvme0n1" even though I selected /dev/nvme0n1p6. Thankfully that was just a display error. No OS in my grub wasn't though, so I ended up manually editing the grub.cfg that explicitly states not to manually edit it and now my Kernel is in the Linux partition and not EFI. Eh, what could go wrong?
why do people make it sound like arch is super diffcult to use? its actually really easy, just read the wiki. i've used other distros but keep going back to arch
Because people in the Linux space have a seriously huge mental problem when it comes to understanding the concept of time. Every stereotype of everything Linux related is always 5+ years out of date and gets updated never. Arch long long ago was extremely hard to user, now if it ain't gento I don't think there is such a thing as a hard to use OS so long as it is even remotely close to one of the popular ones.
@@addy7445 What a question of course Wine and Waydroid work, they work on every distro. and in the end EndeavourOS is based on Arch so if it work on Arch it should work on EndeavourOS.
Actually, almost everything (but Windows) runs on something *nix based (Unix, Linux, BSD). UA-cam? Serving this video on a linux server. Your game server? Linux. Android? Linux. MacOS? Unix-based. iOS/iPadOS/visionOS? Unix-based. Your home router? Linux/BSD. Nearly everything is linux.
I agree with your opinion on Fedora - it is the best of both worlds, stable and advanced. For all the distro-hopping I have done, I consistently come back to Fedora.
It is really good as long as you don't have any silly bells and whistles on your laptop that are important to you. Then you're pretty much stuck with an arch distro
Almost wanted to say Clear Linux isn't that buggy, but they recently had a bug that deleted all user data after an update. The real issue is that it has very few of the optimized packages and thanks to the XZ backdoor incident they removed everything that depends on it, even smaller desktop environments. XZ itself is still there to support RPMs with a huge warning on the package.
4:07 Quitting league without the danger of my addicted self reinstalling it, was one of the reasons why I switched to manjaro unstable - yes I am too lazy too setup arch, I have done that once with the help of a friend, whose daily driver is gentoo, and lost interest in it somewhere along the line - the main reason however was, that most development stuff is simply better on linux.
Slacker here, accurate description. Edit: The software packages are of course up to date (at least in the current branch, aka the unstable nightly one)
@@maeus8220 I don't even remember, but it's at least a decade. I switched after Windows couldn't detect one of my harddrives anymore because it was a bit busted. i tried debian first, hell, I tried a random linux distro that was the backbone of some antivirus CD of all things. The antivirus thing almost worked, debian would not install. Then I figured "my computer is old...Slackware is old. I'll try it" Turned out to be the only actual distro that installed (I think I tried puppy too), AND I got my harddrive to detect long enough to copy stuff. Plus, the full install gave me so much new software to try. After almost 4 days of only looking at command prompts, including windows ones, trying to save my data. It sure was nice to see a fully 'on the metal' (no livestuff) GUI distro again. I played a bunch of KDE games until the backup was finished. Thanks to Slackware I learned of Krita, too, which I ended up contributing to. I do run debian on my raspberry pis tho, but on my personal computers? Slackware forever (probably)
This right here is why W10 currently dominates the market, and it's not even close. In Linux everyone thinks they can create whatever they want and there is no unified thing other than the Kernel. Therefore, not many want to bother.
I installed Manjaro about two years ago to try running a few VMs and docker containers. Why? All the hardware passthrough guides I found seemed to be for Arch at the time and I sure wasn't going to actually use Arch. Also, I just didn't see any difference between distros because they were all the same to me. Turns out, they are even more the same than I realized, which is why it is even more important to pick one that is stable. If you are going to break things, you should at least start in a state that isn't already broken. I uninstalled it earlier this year because an update broke the desktop and the ability to run updates months earlier and I only really noticed when it started adding upwards of about 15 minutes to the boot time. Since everything I was doing was inside of remote managed VMs, this was definitely a Manjaro problem and why it took me so long to even really notice that everything was burning. Why did I bother with a desktop distro in the first place? I wanted to learn more about Linux and I had hoped it could pull dual duty as a server and work station PC. I never really got around to trying to use it as a work station because I fell down a self hosting rabbit hole and only came back up when I noticed that the desktop environment was a raging inferno. I replaced it with Mint but I still mostly just use the desktop as a shortcut to getting around the fact that I still don't really know how to use Linux. I use the command line less often than I did when I was using Win 3.11. Mostly, I spend my time editing config files and using web UIs.
Arch is for people who are too dumb to use gentoo. When arch came up, all the people who had constant PEBCAC problems left the forums and went to ARCH. That is all you need to know about Arch
@@uoooooooohEndaveour comes with an installer so you dont have to read a wiki and you get some cool space wallpapers. Also it preconfigures the DE for you so you wont have to set that up either.
Kali does not make anyone mr.robot and as a daily driver it blows. Ubuntu and any variation of it eats a big hairy one. Debian can be configured to do anything or look like anything you want. Red Hat and variations of it should be avoided for any real work.
Thinking of jumping straight into using debian as my first swap from windows to linux. Kind of put off of arch since ppl say its the most diy/non newbie. I keep flip flopping what i should use. Now considering opensuse as well, are there any cons to it? Should i stay away from company owned distros? Best way is probs to actually start trying them out but iv got cold feet rn (at least until windows recall gets pushed). Any advice would be greatly appreciated!
If you are good with computers/comfortable with terminal commands than the best distro is any distro, just choose one you think looks good/sounds interesting IMO. I would avoid arch as a first distro just because you can already learn a lot on any distro and your experience will be smoother. Good luck!
You can't go wrong with Ubuntu to get started. If you're already on Windows (or this thing called, "the internet") you aren't giving Canonical any data you're not already giving away as is. Ubuntu is sort of the anti-Arch in that you don't need to DIY everything and it mostly just works.
4:30 totally unnecessary and xenophobic comment. Even if you *think* that the CPC is not good, there's no reason to attack the chinese developers of Deepin. These types of comments are such a turn off on videos that were cool like this. Comments like this are so 2003-ish.
Manjaro experience these days : you experience something annoying in the OS then you go asking or complaining about something in their forum and a dev replies in paragraphs before they lock the thread
@@lpnp9477 i dont know If it is that Bad. NixOS has a crazy amount of stuff to learn, but Most of is Independent of Linux in General,so might Not be as Bad as it sounds
You are already getting spammed into oblivion I see, but really choosing Manjaro instead of EndeavourOS, ARCO or Garuda is a bad decision nowadays. Although I would not really recommend the last two, as I didn't use ARCO and Garuda is a pain in the as in terms of you not knowing, wtf did your distro do with the base arch system. In Garuda my terminal/VSCode fonts broke once and I couldn't even remotely understand wtf was going on. Nobody on the forums even understood, how the hell did it happen, so I migrated to Endeavour.
And to be perfectly honest, if you can use Fedora, Endeavour is easy for you to use. A lot of the stuff you need and nothing you don't out of the box. The Arch base actually never broke on me. I once accidentally uninstalled SDDM, but that was definitely a me problem. I managed to do the same on Fedora afterwards. Therefore, if you ever want an Arch experience without putting the whole car together at the start, Endeavour is a very solid choice. Still not a beginners distro though, as it is a bit terminal oriented.
Thank you for the explanation. I haven't run anything arch based in years. I'll pin this to make sure no one tries manjaro for no reason.
@@Sirfreelancealot I am certainly saved. Thank you 👍
Surprisingly I had the opposite issue with Garuda just spontaneously functioning more than I would expect and EndeavourOS having inexplicable issues. Garuda is really one of the best linux distros for at least having a working OS at the end of the day.. (if you're not unlucky with your hardware)
Garuda is notorious for having terrible support as well. Imagine all of the condescending douchebaggery of the arch forums, but without even an ounce of the capability. Arch forums will patronize you and insult you and also give you a complete set of instructions for troubleshooting your issue and offer several solutions. Garuda, you'll just be patronized and never offered any assiatance.
just use arch lol, if you really, really want a gui installer go with endeavour
"Red Hat got rich by giving you free software, then charging you to fix it when you fuck up"
I never looked at it that way.
I think that's fair. Without them linux and foss wouldn't be as good as it is today
That’s why they had to kill CentOS. We started fixing the problems ourselves 😂
I'm currently using Fedora Server on my Server and Nobara (Fedora based gaming distro) on my Laptop and PC. I used arch before but NVIDIA + Wayland + Arch = unusable hell
Well
Ansible is nice, and the redhat Dokumentation is also suitable for Debian
That part made me laugh. But it's kinda accurate too, except it's not targeting you, it's targeting big businesses that would save money by having red hat solve their technical issues for them
Being voidlinux user is like being from a 3rd world country when you see someone mentioning your distro you just lose your mind.
UZBEKISTAN MENTIONED
@@lpnp9477 that's crazy
nixos user here
Void is great. Very little bloat and not exactly as bleeding edge as Arch (I don't like broken systems) + it starts faster bc of runit.
Öö, Suomea ei mainittu, mutta tavataan torilla kuitenkin!
@@joelkronqvist6089I use arch (btw) and in all 5 years of using it have never once had a breakage i didn’t directly cause. Arch is a hell of a lot more stable than ppl give it credit for.
"Read the documentation", including "read the manual" is actually a secret codeword which translates to "I acknowledge that what you're trying to do is not intuitive, however I can't be bothered to explain it and nobody has bothered to actually make it intuitive so I'm going to say something that seems like it's useful advice at face in the hopes that you go away.".
Just puttin' that out there.
RTFM generally means, I don't know either but I am not going to admit that
I'm not even a Linux user (yet), but I 1000% agree. I code and oh boy the amount of people who say that is insane. I mean, what about you give some actual advice? That's why I came to the forum in the first place. Asking people who know can be THE fastest way to learn.
@@FranksCreativeCorner My basic outlook is that the only people who should ever be coding anything are the people who like coding for some reason. For anything along the lines of a game making software, there should always be at least an attempt to provide a way to use it that doesn't involve writing code. Writing code should obviously still be available and it's okay if the no-code version is more limited than the code verison, but it should be there.
@@ThatguycalledJoe I was really talking about people who ask you to "read the manual/documentation", hahah
But yeah, I agree with that too.
I mean I'd recommend reading it before installing the distro at least skimming through it cause it'll probably contain some common problems
As an Arch user, using Manjaro does NOT give you permission to say our sacred mantra.
I run Arch btw :3
Running Arch-based distros also can come with its own issues that I'd rather avoid
What about SteamOS?
@@MrDiarukia At that point you're not even a linux user
@@ELEC7RO well isn't it arch based?
If arch is assembling a lego set without instructions, LFS is 3d printing by hand
That's Gentoo, LFS is like building a Lego factory to mold out all the Lego pieces so that you can build it literally all by yourself
Arch has the best instructions
Arch has really, really good instructions, but othereise that's fair 😂
building car chassis by melting copper wires bit by bit with a soldering iron
I think 3d printing by hand is called sculpture.
Manjaro = Speedrun to bricked system any%
thanks for reminding me i need to fix my laptop...
Lmao yep
Endeavor too
But I like
@@lpnp9477 I just switched to endeavor... what's wrong with it?
@@anima94 nothing, this guy is just being weird
@@panmeekNah he has a point. Manjaro is know for doing oopsies. like DDOSing the AUR. forgeting to renew their keys. imploding when you have mismatched packages due to them delaying packages by 2 weeks in combination when you installed things from the AUR. and the list goes on.
2:55 Emacs has everything you could ever want in an operating system. The only thing missing is a text editor ;)
there's ed-mode :^)
words of someone that has never used gnu emacs
*a good text editor.
@@_vsnwprintf_s_l And yet I have for a few years 🤣
@@Leonhart_93 vim supremacy
not mentioning UwUntu should be a crime
Not knowing of it was the bigger crime. Lock me up
@@Sirfreelancealot You're under arrest. 👮♂
Ya, I thought you throw in WindowsFX, that Windows Clone Linux OS.
@@SirfreelancealotWe now demand a part 2!
@@cybernit3 its not safe iirc
steamos is based on arch, does that mean steam deck users are arch users?
Legally, yes. If you ask an arch user. Fuck no 😂
You're not an arch person unless you installed the os yourself, and not from a manjaro or endeavouros installer.
But you can still say it, no one's going to question you because nobody fucking cares
I'm gonna put "In everyday life, I use a highly specialized derivative of Arch Linux" on my resume
Isn’t Steam OS Debian based, not arch?
(Nvm steam OS 3.0 on the deck is Arch Based, it was OG steam OS that was Debian 8 based)
@@Likely_Alucard We don't talk about pre-3.0
Normal tech ceos: boring corpo speak
Linus: "bro free stuff is like sex its awesome"
It's insane how hard manjaro went from being a good functional system to being the biggest, clunkiest piece of shit distro I've ever used.
it's literally the same thing with arch or any other arch based distro.
arch was never ment to be used as a functional, practical distro.
just install debian and NEVER look back.
@@aaaaaa-hh8cqI daily drive and game on arch and it literally just works. Never had any issues I couldn't fix easily.
@@aaaaaa-hh8cqi have been using arch for 2 years and its been great lmao
@@aaaaaa-hh8cq I use Arch frequently, and it's great. I very rarely encounter something I can't fix quickly, and I've never "bricked" my system like people say happens with Arch.
EDIT: I use arch btw
@@aaaaaa-hh8cq Arch was never meant for the computing masses; it's pure ubergeek.
if you use KDE neon, you REALLY like spending hours ricing your desktop only for wine to uninstall itself after every update
I really like ricin
wait what 😭 wine uninstalls itself after every update????
@@lpnp9477 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ricin
why install an ubuntu fork for kde alone
Everyone jumped ship on Manjaro for Endeavor.
Mistakes were made
Mistakes in an understatement, latest updated fucked both gnome and plasma simultaneously
@@justahumanwithamask4089 eos failed to boot and did the same to plasma within weeks. (I still use it tho😢)
@@Sirfreelancealotit is nice to have my audio work immediately tho
@@Mr371312 I would've switched to endeavor/ baseline arch a long time ago if they actually booted to the live environment which they didn't so I'm stuck with manjaro
I use arch btw
i use arch btw
I use arch btw
I use arch btw
I touch grass btw \[.~.]/
I too use Arch btw
>manjaro
>functioning OS
Use endeavor for "arch with a good installer", archinstall for "installer that sometimes works" or my favorite CachyOS for "endeavor if it was good". Best distro IMHO
What puts cachy above endeavouros? I wouldn't mind trying it out on the weekend if it's got something special
@@lpnp9477 "optimized" packages that do not make the slightest performance difference
so basically bloated arch with an installer
@@lpnp9477 wait I typed an essay did I not post it 😭 I had 2 points: 1. Compilation for v3 and v4 architecture which makes it measurably faster and 2. QoL. The "cachyos hello" app has a bunch of tweaks and fixes for common issues, they include some AUR packages in the repo, they have a tool for ranking mirrors and actually applying the changes automatically, they have meta packages for stuff like gaming so you don't have to install all the libraries and tools manually.
I don't think the difference is very noticeable when you just play in a VM for half an hour but when you use it for a long time the experience is just better. Also you can just add their repos to your existing arch install without losing too much, but imho a clean install is better. Also if you use zsh they have oh-my-zsh built in and preconfigured.
I'd say it has the benefits of arch without many of the drawbacks of arch for normal users (not everything has to be configured and ran by hand, but no one is stopping you, if you want to).
In the end, it's still lightweight as pretty much nothing is preinstalled, has a better repo and it's still arch so you can delete anything you don't want to (which is like 2-3 apps if you choose not to use them). I wouldn't say migrating from endeavour (or however it's spelled...) makes much sense but if you're installing an OS on a new machine/reinstalling the OS, you might like cachy. But adding the repos anyway never hurts lol. Just make sure to install the cachyos-rate-mirrors because like the only drawback of cachy is that sometimes independent mirrors get out of sync which breaks updates 😐. There's a fix for that in the "cachyos hello" but if you don't know about it you'd have to search for it.
Oh yeah, there are also multiple kernels available and you can also choose them in the "cachyos hello" for ease of use (or when installing of course)
I used Manjaro once. The people managing it blew up a lot of people's systems, it was completely unjustified and people told them exactly that, and the response was "well, should've read the notes." The notes that tell you that they're blowing up your PC. Yeah, might as well just use Arch then.
@@lpnp9477 I responded twice with 3 paragraphs but it got deleted both times 😐
I have Manjaro installed on a $8 USB drive that I boot to with my laptop.
I am currently coding software for a cutting edge particle collider.
This is not a joke.
Do you just not save anything/have everything on github at all times or are you playing sector failure roulette?
Im genuinely interested
@@Sirfreelancealot On linux USBs you can re-partition the ISO to have another partition that can store data persistently, but if you dont (And dont have external storage for the USB) everything is amnesic and runs in RAM, so a poweroff or reboot erases everything and dosen't leave a trace, this is how the Tails distro achieves amnesia
T420? I guess that goes without saying.
@@anyvoltage8157 I think he means that usb drives typically use low-quality flash memory, and therefore don't handle many r/w cycles. As a result, data loss is very likely if you don't use backups.
Yep, that's what i meant
Gaming on Linux isn't complicated, it mostly either works, for everything except AAA and anticheat, or not. Out of the box. Even for old Windows games you can't run on a modern Windows.
Yup it's been super easy unless you're on a laptop with nvidia
@@lpnp9477 or on a laptop requiring windows, for the manufacturer custom fan curve software to work.
@@lpnp9477which is majority of gaming laptops though….
@@lpnp9477 Even then, a good majority will still work OOTB unless Asus manufactured it. For context, I have a roughly 3 year-old, all AMD Asus laptop and it'll absolutely shit itself if it has any other memory besides what the manufacturer put in and straight up won't post if more than 12GB are in it. Runs Fedora flawlessly, though.
works or not kekekek, yeah that is the problem, most of the games and windows apps don't work.. so you need to run a VM with windows or another pc to work and play games, at this point just run windows.
I had quite an adventure with Linux:
- Managed to nuke my system via ‘sudo rm -rf /*’ thinking it would only remove everything inside my current dir.
- Managed to get trapped inside Vim multiple times. Had to restart the computer to break free, because I didn’t have internet to ask it what to do
- Managed to nuke my system answering ‘yes’ to the question ‘Do as I say’…
Trapped inside vim I get, but you managed to install linux in a console setup without being told how to switch tty? That is what saved me a lot of reboots in my starting days.
(Alt+Fn (or Ctrl+Alt+Fn if in X), use Alt+sidearrow to scroll through the ttys. X is usually on tty1 or tty7 depending on your setup)
That "do as I say" used to be "yes, I understand that this might harm my system" (or something similar) - kinda miss that variant of the prompt, was clearer.
What distro were you using that doesn't have root protection on rm ;p
I'm sorry but this is like the Linux equivalent of that one gif of Homer making cereal light on fire
- Managed to nuke my system by doing chown -R root:root / because I was new and forgot to add a dot before /
@@MthaMenMon Rip
Probably recoverable, but a huge pain
i use arch btw (not fucking manjaro)
edit: i now use nix btw
another edit: i use arch again
another another edit: i use opensuse tumbleweed btw
another another another edit: i use endeavouros btw
I use Arch btw
I use debian btw
literally nobody asked. f*ck that hellish useless unstable af "distro".
I use debian btw, the godfather of stability. keep wasting your time with arch 😀😂
I use Mint btw
I use Nobara btw
He was spot on when he predicted that most of us are watching this video on Android. Because Apple Mac and Iphone user is not gonna watch a video about Linux Distro.
Android forever
Idk I use Linux on my computers but use an iPhone for my phone.
Just installed arch on Mac OS with utm 💀
watching from a mac, running macOS. i use arch btw
Not so sure about that. I run macOS for my desktop, Raspbian on my RPis around the house and Debian on my server and am watching this in an iPhone
I use Arch btw
If you leave a computer around me I’m installing arch on it. I’m banned from every microcenter in my state.
I knew a girl who was like that. Also dressed like a stereotypical tech girl (with the socks and everything). That personality and style was sure jarring on an 11 year old kid when I was only 12 myself, lol. Had to go over to her house to hang out, my parents wouldn't let her come to our place - there wasn't an Incident, Dad just knew her type. Didn't want me hanging around her at all but couldn't come up with a reason Mum would take seriously and didn't want to die on that hill.
@@katanah3195 ur dad sounds smart
@@katanah3195And where's the problem with becoming an archer?
Recommending Manjaro is a crime. EndeavourOS is Arch with preconfigured DE's and a good installer. Manjaro has too many problems these days. Sorry if you've been getting these comments a lot, but yeah. Other than that it's a good video.
Yeah manjaro is great if you like headaches but not migraines. If you like migraines use vanilla arch. If you prefer a clear head use endeavouros, just don't ever try to update it.
@@lpnp9477 Not sure if you're reffering to updating Manjaro or Vanilla Arch/Endeavours, but updating is a major problem on Manjaro. It's good as long as you don't use AUR, but using Arch without taking advantage of AUR is pointless in my humble opinion. If you use AUR on Manjaro, held back main repo packages might ruin your AUR packages or your system. It doesn't happen on vanilla Arch and Endeavour, though there is an odd case here and there where a fresh package messes something up. But it's rare these days and you can use AUR as you like.
@dalmaronthefirst2237 Do you use the AUR?
@dalmaronthefirst2237 Nah, it's just popular to hate on Manjaro these days. But they did let their SSL certs expire, so there's that !!
@dalmaronthefirst2237Manjaro gets a lot of hate basically because of 5+ year old reasons that have zero actual barring on the modern day.
Linux users just like to have a stick up their ass and never forgive any fuck ups ever.
Manjaro in it's early days had its SSL cert expire which is frankly a issue so minor no one actually gives a fuck unless they have said stick up their ass. And their update software accidentally caused a ddos cause of a design oversight. Which they fixed, and people won't forgive them cause how dare they not have perfect software from day 1.
Manjaro on avg out lasts basically every other arch based distro when it comes to not randomly breaking from updates. It still breaks, but every arch distro breaks at some point and fucking it's not even always the distros fault.
A lot of dipshits have recently taken to blaming Manjaro for breaking cause of kde and Wayland issues and incompatibility with unofficial software they installed.
People also love to blame Manjaro for breaking when it's some aur packages fault as well.
If you want the most normie friendly arch distro then Manjaro is your best option. If you want a power user option then endeavour. If you like cock and ball torture then just go to gento and skip over arch entirely.
mentions manjaro. never mentiones eos, arco and garuda. duh.
i use arch btw
I mean, if using Manjaro, you might as well use arch after a while.
By using manjaro in the past, I got to learn a LOT about how arch works having to fix it when they constantly screwed up my installation. xD
You know, tiny things like stuff from systemd suddenly showing up as installed from AUR and such, even though I had zero packages installed from the AUR, just small things like that...
I got tired of that soooo...
I now use Arch btw...
elementary os was mentioned
@willi1978 he's referring to endeavorOS
Garuda is just worse Manjaro and endeavour... With a ugly theme. So it's understandable to not mention it.
This video is absolute gold.
Gotta admit, as a med student, I lol’ed about the doctor saying “RTFM”. Could you imagine? 😂
Read the textbook on human biology
@@crockstonyt Unrelated, but I wanted to take this chance to mention I use arch btw.
Using fedora minimal is so good that I probably will never switch my workspace to any other distro unless they f* up something really bad
imagine getting
debian like stability + arch like updates + good package manager + supports mostly everything that is available
and can run well on server with no complications I assume
well if you got confused : fedora workstation and fedora minimal is different thing
it runs on my device with hyprland TWM on 500-700mb of ram and just uses 5gigs of storage with all setup ( it increases as you use system , install stuffs ofc but you got the point : its lightweight )
Debian and Fedora are the best distros.
Since switching to Fedora 18 months ago, I've had the least amount of issues than on many other distros. Every time I've tried to use Linux Mint Cinnamon I always run into some issues. I want to like it but just can't
i am the only existing mageia user 👍
I thin its possible if u use minimal KDE and a specific install config.
We Fedora users simply don't care about distros, we only want a computer that fulfil our needs
1:30 I thought this was going to be an informative video. I didn't think it'd be a comedy too! Actually laughed out loud
It's titled "by an idiot"
Bruh
I use Nixos btw
Contrary to what was said, NixOS is _not_ literally one big configuration file.
It _can_ be one big configuration file, but if you've been using it for long enough, you've probably broken that configuration file into several smaller configuration files. (My NixOS is currently 7 configuration files, one of which does nothing but list every single Noto font.) As far as Nix is concerned though, there's no difference (so little difference that it literally won't have anything new to build).
I don't for now, but it's likely by end of summer. Which will mean that half my comments under other stuff will still consist of "I use arch btw" while I don't use arch. Or maybe I'll just remain on arch with home manager forever
nixos-rebuild switch
Nixpkgs and the nix package manager are great if you are caipable of not having a migrane from the nix language
I use Nixos btw
1:12 "elementary os is great if you're transitioning" -> come on, we all know arch and gentoo are the trans people distros!
0:01 Apple follows the same rule. The catch is that hardware requires your testicles to be sold
There is also a nobara. It is like Pop_OS! but based on fedora instead of Ubuntu. They position it as distro for gamers (+-like pop) and content creators. Also they have version with nvidia drivers (again like pop os).
Btw, have you heard about bedrock linux? Unique thing.
Currently using nobara, enjoying it quite a bit. (For context I was dual booting windows 10 with ubuntu a couple months ago, then I uninstalled ubuntu. Well like a week ago power flickered and I booted into grub rescue. couldn't boot into any drive, or windows, so I said fuck it and installed nobara.)
Correction: Arch Linux has some of the best instructions in the form of the Arch Wiki. It is much easier to follow than pretty much any other technical document I came across.
stop spreading misinfo. it doesn't matter that it has a "good wiki". no one should read a long ars wiki just to install an OS.
arch is perfect for people who love wasting time
@@aaaaaa-hh8cq Your opinion of "no one should read a long ars wiki just to install an OS" is not relevant to my point that it has some of the best instructions.
@@aaaaaa-hh8cqshould we not have instructions for how to assemble a table or something? Arch lets people make the distro they want and tells them how to do that. Thats why some people use arch it gives the user all the choices instead of making hardly any for them
gentoo better
I agree with the guy above. Messing with OS is a waste of time. Just let me set it up once and occassionally make changes and be done with it
The most cursed setup ever:
PC:
- Arch Linux for everything except games
- Windows 11 for games
Laptop:
- MacOS (mistakes were made and now I have to hold on to the worst of both hardware and software worlds just to pretend that buying this was not a financial mistake)
Honestly, the only saving grace for me is that all of my work-related data gets auto-synced between laptop and PC, so I only have to use mac when I have no access to the PC...
You can also use moonlight or nomachine to access your desktop from your laptop so you don't even have to look at that cursed os for more than a minute
@@lpnp9477 sadly they won't cut it for me, as I often times have to use my laptop outside of the house, and there is no way to get a static IP address for me (at least for now)
i think you bought an apple laptop from the worst generation, where apple made them ultraslim and with only usb-c. Am i right?
3:26 WOAH WOAH WOAH... YOU DO *NOT* GET TO SAY YOU USE ARCH BTW IF YOU ARE REFERRING TO MANJARO...
Very good and funny Video. I think you can cut that even faster to make the jokes hit harder.
I have switched to MacOS + Asahi to complement my Endeavour Rig and finally banish Windows from my private life. Fuck Windows.
Fuck windows
Fuck windows
I find Alpine Linux is the most resource-efficient, if you want a computer that does only a few things. After the initial installation it took less than 100 MB of disk. I could install XFCE for basic desktop and FireFox, and the disk usage is still about just 1GB. For comparison, when I installed Arch with XFCE, it used about 5GB.
One question about red hat linux (from a beginner), how can something be commercial/paid but open-source? When your software is distributed and modified by other people is there still some sort of a pay wall when accessing them? How is it done?
There are many ways you can do that.
For example supabase (a database provider) lets you host supabase yourself on your own server but with a few features missing.
RedHat developed distributions of linux and gave them for free but if you wanted support (which if you were a massive corp, was a must) you'd pay them X amount. Currently RHEL (as far as I'm aware) is not available for free use and technically is not open source, but is based on other open source technologies and pulls features from Fedora which is open source.
As a side note, "open source" afaik does not mean the source code has to be open for everybody, just the actual users of the software upon request. If you don't pay for RedHat, you are not technically entitled to the source code. This still didn't stop clone distros like Rocky Linux from appearing, but that's a whole other can of worms.
Another common monetization model for open source projects is like Aseprite, where the source code is open to everyone, but you have to pay to access any precompiled binaries. You COULD just compile it yourself, but most people are not going to want or know how to.
@@coolcool5181isn't that just "source available"? Like unreal engine isn't open source but you can access and modify it like it were
IT support can only do so much. If something needs fixing, they cannot do it, while RedHat devs can literally fix the bug upstream (which many times they actively contribute to). Also there is bunch of certifications needed for companies and government, which doesn't come for free and also requires effort. These things are what "support" here means.
where is UwUntu :( i love cats btw
Carl Sagon best described what it is like to use Linux From Scratch " IF you want to make apple pie from scratch , first you have to invent the entire universe "
The UA-cam algorithm brought me here and I'm glad it did. I've now watched all your videos and I'm very excited to see what else will come here in the future :)
For me, debian is the toyota of linux distros, for beginners, linux mint is really good. I never gonna install manjaro ever again, because i only just did "sudo pacman -Syu" and the system broke. Currently running debian on my main machine and fedora on my second one.
Yup that shit happens all the time on manjaro and even endeavouros
Mint is also good on most chromebooks, less prone to things not working at all, looking at you manjaro. You have to go to some strange elaborate way to get some hardware to work properly in manjaro. That probably just arch in general with chromebooks.
I am very happy with my brick toy and will keep playing with my brick toy.
Ubuntu server user here. Just using it cause a few programs i want to run are only availiable for ubuntu and i dont have any issues with the os so far so it works. But can somebody tell me about the privacy concerns please? I have not really heard anything about it.
It isn't a real concern + they reversed the change. There is a comment somewhere here explaining the situation really well.
Slackware a crocodile, that hasn’t changed in 14 million years. Yeah, because it is perfectly adapted to it’s environment as an apex predator. :D
After switching to Arch ive been so happy with doing pc stuff, computing was made actually fun again instead of "this is painful, i just want it to work and nothing more" like on windows, thank god i never have to deal with that level of instability that everyone pretends doesnt exist on windows ever again
Linux is a goldmine of enjoyment, amazing video, loved it!!!!
Every os is unstable lmao
But at least on Linux I can control the instability and script my way into a working os
@@lpnp9477 maybe I have rose tinted glasses but windows 7 was pretty stable
The problem is when you can't make it work, like Fedora was for me. The audio always crackled when I started a game on steam, and I couldn't do anything about it.
@lpnp9477 im sorry but have you seen windows system call graphs? Arch is as stable as you make it, dont just group all unstability together like its the same
@@szhadjii8363pipewire??
What no Bunsenlabs mention. I am devastated i tell you.
i can't use fedora,i literally cant install some specific packages because they are not updated to the latest version of fedora
Apple gives you a free orchiectomy AND a laptop? Sweet deal 👀
Yeah, if they did that then every man would be using a macboo- OH WAIT NO
@@EricChiEric hey now, that's a steal! ;P
Based and pinkpilled
As a person moving away from Windows, which distro is best and why? Currently trying Linux Mint atm.
Good place to start, it generally just works
I use FreeBSD, it's like Linux but 10x more frustrating, a challenge to get up to date drivers, and lots of software is unavailable
But I'll be damned if I didn't learn a lot and find a cool mascot
How's the desktop experience with FreeBSD? I know the PS4 uses a custom BSD based software, and it sucks ass
@@meci6625 i run freebsd via ghostbsd on my desktop. works well and feels good using bsd over linux. and freebsd has over 30.000 packages. plus the linux compatibility layer. ive used strigaht up freebsd its kinda like arch in the since you setup everything manually but its not hard plus the community for freebsd is imo better. they do not care about if its foss/gpl they just want it to work how they want it. and i like the MIT license allot better over the GPL license
@@meci6625 I believe only hackers who love to tinker would seriously use BSD as their main OS. BSD is mostly for servers with strict resource limitations since they usually take less ram and storage space than linux. BSD is great for a log less vpn on a cloud server, not as a personal OS.
@meci6625 I had to swap wifi chips in my laptop to get very slow wifi working. Plus a bit tricky for graphics drivers since my laptop has dual graphics.
But for coding it's fantastic and it's insanely fast. Plus super stable, I've had debian and fedora crash on my laptop a bunch.
That said, I can do the majority of things I'd do on a Linux laptop, but honestly it's not quite as convenient for some things
😂
Best 20 second intro to any video I’ve every watched
I've been using Arch for about 6 months now and dunno why but I'm seriously considering switching to Fedora or PopOS since past couple weeks. This will probably offend a lot of people here
No I get it. You prefer a computer to work for your intended use case rather than spend hours going in circles and getting nowhere. I would definitely use pop if I weren't addicted to gimmick laptops
Really disapointed in lack of hannah montana linux
2:42 u have a instructions manual its the arch wiki...
I was going to say that. Now, if you want something with poor documentation where it feels like there's no guide then go for NixOS.
@@brainstormsurge154 Can confirm
Arch Wiki isn't a book of Lego instructions, though-it's a *computer science textbook.* Even the install guide says things like, "And now it's time to install a bootloader! You can read about that in this completely separate ~chapter~ webpage."
@@GSBarlev ya they are like Wikipedia... They say stuff and assume u know it and if u don't then search for a blue hyperlink u noob... Thats insult but if u get used to it then it's the best as no other distros has a wiki that huge
The elder scrolls
What shoul i do if i want to upgrade from windows to linux but iam scared of security features? (Like linux is not that secure what distro to use atd) my purpouse is gaming and little of coding.
Linux is about 100 times less likely to get hacked than windows.
Make sure to choose your distro carefully because it is illegal to try more than one! (I'm kidding, try whichever one you find interesting, and if you don't like it, try another)
Great video, simple, easy and entertaining for anyone wanting to go to Linux.
I'm new to Linux and I recommend Kubuntu
Weirdly enough, I've always had issues with any Distro I had, but now that I'm on Arch with Hyprland on Nvidia, everything just works. I don't even bother with gaming on Linux though.
Installing it was a nightmare due to archinstall being bugged at the time, just to proceed to give me a heart attack with "formatting /dev/nvme0n1" even though I selected /dev/nvme0n1p6. Thankfully that was just a display error. No OS in my grub wasn't though, so I ended up manually editing the grub.cfg that explicitly states not to manually edit it and now my Kernel is in the Linux partition and not EFI. Eh, what could go wrong?
Bro, Manjaro? There’s endevour, cachy os and many more that are a lot better.
In the name of your son pop os, amen
why do people make it sound like arch is super diffcult to use?
its actually really easy, just read the wiki. i've used other distros but keep going back to arch
Because most of us can barely read
Because people in the Linux space have a seriously huge mental problem when it comes to understanding the concept of time.
Every stereotype of everything Linux related is always 5+ years out of date and gets updated never.
Arch long long ago was extremely hard to user, now if it ain't gento I don't think there is such a thing as a hard to use OS so long as it is even remotely close to one of the popular ones.
Zorin Os Mentioned I’m happy now I can like 😂
heard there's one designed for gaming, haven't seen it tho, how good is it really?
I use EndeavourOS BTW
How good is it? Do Wine and Waydroid work?
@@addy7445 What a question of course Wine and Waydroid work, they work on every distro. and in the end EndeavourOS is based on Arch so if it work on Arch it should work on EndeavourOS.
5:24 he literally showed the same device that im watching and roasted it😭😭
ubuntu, lubuntu and xubuntu, but where is MY KUBUNTU?!
Slow as usual, probably crashed on the way (I use Kubuntu btw)
@@manaskshirsagar7518 yup had to change to endeavour
Actually, almost everything (but Windows) runs on something *nix based (Unix, Linux, BSD). UA-cam? Serving this video on a linux server. Your game server? Linux. Android? Linux. MacOS? Unix-based. iOS/iPadOS/visionOS? Unix-based. Your home router? Linux/BSD. Nearly everything is linux.
Gentoo is the best distro for learning Linux's internals.
the layers are clear, install gentoo, use that to install arch, then use that to install nix.
@Ducky_yandere NixOS was such a pain in the ass to use. 2/10, do not recommend.
@@oglothenerd aye, twas just a joke
@@Ducky_yandere I get that.
This was wayy to funny!!! Keep at it subscribed :)
fedora, peak
Neckbeards unite!! *Tips Fedora 39*
@@bvd_vlvdIt's on 40 now ;)
Fedora 40 🫡
@@ThatMaverickMojust upgraded to Workstation 40 most of my GNOME extensions worked without issues
been my daily for over 5 years now and i havent had a single problem!
I tried pop os for gaming and it was laggy with strange stutters that I never had in any other distro
I agree with your opinion on Fedora - it is the best of both worlds, stable and advanced. For all the distro-hopping I have done, I consistently come back to Fedora.
Does anyone actually use Zorin OS?
yes. me.
I don't think it's fair to say arch is like lego without instructions, when the archwiki is known to be the best linux documentation.
3:50 linus tech tips rm -rf'd the whole system by installing steam
Pop!_OS makes my gaming laptop (w/ Nvidia) super performant, can't recommend it enough!
It is really good as long as you don't have any silly bells and whistles on your laptop that are important to you. Then you're pretty much stuck with an arch distro
Nobara better
@@lpnp9477 „bells and whistles“?
@@sirultor648 smaller community tho
@@Autismagus can always look up fedora for niche problem solving. And it is more optimised for gaming. Just my opinion tho
Almost wanted to say Clear Linux isn't that buggy, but they recently had a bug that deleted all user data after an update.
The real issue is that it has very few of the optimized packages and thanks to the XZ backdoor incident they removed everything that depends on it, even smaller desktop environments.
XZ itself is still there to support RPMs with a huge warning on the package.
Manjaro is just Arch without the "btw" rights.
5:20 post market os exists but it only works on older phones
Or you can buy a phone with linux pre-installed
Yes, but will it play anything above a 160x240 video fluently since the hardware drivers for the mpeg accelerator core are missing? ;-)
@@lepidoptera9337 idk I never had one
bros roasting goes hard\
4:07 Quitting league without the danger of my addicted self reinstalling it, was one of the reasons why I switched to manjaro unstable - yes I am too lazy too setup arch, I have done that once with the help of a friend, whose daily driver is gentoo, and lost interest in it somewhere along the line - the main reason however was, that most development stuff is simply better on linux.
Your channel is underrated.
finally a solid comparison video. Nice
Bro destroyed apple
Slacker here, accurate description.
Edit: The software packages are of course up to date (at least in the current branch, aka the unstable nightly one)
Slackware users DO exist. . . crazy. How long have you been running it?
@@maeus8220 I don't even remember, but it's at least a decade.
I switched after Windows couldn't detect one of my harddrives anymore because it was a bit busted.
i tried debian first, hell, I tried a random linux distro that was the backbone of some antivirus CD of all things.
The antivirus thing almost worked, debian would not install. Then I figured "my computer is old...Slackware is old. I'll try it"
Turned out to be the only actual distro that installed (I think I tried puppy too), AND I got my harddrive to detect long enough to copy stuff.
Plus, the full install gave me so much new software to try. After almost 4 days of only looking at command prompts, including windows ones, trying to save my data.
It sure was nice to see a fully 'on the metal' (no livestuff) GUI distro again. I played a bunch of KDE games until the backup was finished.
Thanks to Slackware I learned of Krita, too, which I ended up contributing to. I do run debian on my raspberry pis tho, but on my personal computers? Slackware forever (probably)
This right here is why W10 currently dominates the market, and it's not even close. In Linux everyone thinks they can create whatever they want and there is no unified thing other than the Kernel. Therefore, not many want to bother.
Sigma boomer mindset
By your logic, apple should dominate.
@@curious_banda It would if they came first, if they had actual GPUs and if they didn't force your to buy their overpriced crap hardware.
@@Leonhart_93plus the only game you can run on a Mac is Sims 4
@@damianjblack That's pretty impressive 🤣
I installed Manjaro about two years ago to try running a few VMs and docker containers. Why? All the hardware passthrough guides I found seemed to be for Arch at the time and I sure wasn't going to actually use Arch. Also, I just didn't see any difference between distros because they were all the same to me. Turns out, they are even more the same than I realized, which is why it is even more important to pick one that is stable. If you are going to break things, you should at least start in a state that isn't already broken.
I uninstalled it earlier this year because an update broke the desktop and the ability to run updates months earlier and I only really noticed when it started adding upwards of about 15 minutes to the boot time. Since everything I was doing was inside of remote managed VMs, this was definitely a Manjaro problem and why it took me so long to even really notice that everything was burning.
Why did I bother with a desktop distro in the first place? I wanted to learn more about Linux and I had hoped it could pull dual duty as a server and work station PC.
I never really got around to trying to use it as a work station because I fell down a self hosting rabbit hole and only came back up when I noticed that the desktop environment was a raging inferno.
I replaced it with Mint but I still mostly just use the desktop as a shortcut to getting around the fact that I still don't really know how to use Linux.
I use the command line less often than I did when I was using Win 3.11. Mostly, I spend my time editing config files and using web UIs.
The whole video was to say that Apple users are eunuchs, amiright?
whaaat? Nooo, who told you that :P
Maybe you're a bit young to know this, but a lot of Mac users are cis women.
I mean it's accurate
At first I thought it was gonna be a joke about trans girls and UNIX based systems.
Hilarious dude. Learned lots too btw. New subscriber ✌🏻
3:10 took me out
This is awesome! Can you make a similar video but it's Desktop environments
Windows is great distro if you coming from the Linux Mint
😂 😂 😂
Arch is for people who are too dumb to use gentoo.
When arch came up, all the people who had constant PEBCAC problems left the forums and went to ARCH.
That is all you need to know about Arch
manjaro is kinda bad now. EndeavourOS is a better arch derivative.
why not just use arch btw
@@uoooooooohi value My time
@@uoooooooohEndaveour comes with an installer so you dont have to read a wiki and you get some cool space wallpapers. Also it preconfigures the DE for you so you wont have to set that up either.
@@uoooooooohwhy not just use Gentoo?
@@TobiasCastillo-f7u because gentoo isn't an arch derivative
Kali does not make anyone mr.robot and as a daily driver it blows. Ubuntu and any variation of it eats a big hairy one. Debian can be configured to do anything or look like anything you want. Red Hat and variations of it should be avoided for any real work.
Debian is where it's at.
Android is the worst Linux.
but there is no equivalent linux version yet. otherwise i would opt for running linux on my phone too
@@willi1978 yep
It's great if you enjoy spyware
Still better than Apple.
Thinking of jumping straight into using debian as my first swap from windows to linux. Kind of put off of arch since ppl say its the most diy/non newbie. I keep flip flopping what i should use. Now considering opensuse as well, are there any cons to it? Should i stay away from company owned distros? Best way is probs to actually start trying them out but iv got cold feet rn (at least until windows recall gets pushed). Any advice would be greatly appreciated!
If you are good with computers/comfortable with terminal commands than the best distro is any distro, just choose one you think looks good/sounds interesting IMO.
I would avoid arch as a first distro just because you can already learn a lot on any distro and your experience will be smoother.
Good luck!
You can't go wrong with Ubuntu to get started. If you're already on Windows (or this thing called, "the internet") you aren't giving Canonical any data you're not already giving away as is. Ubuntu is sort of the anti-Arch in that you don't need to DIY everything and it mostly just works.
openSUSE is very good distro, especially for beginners
Linux mint
do it. can never go wrong with debian, its just a wise choice overall
Manjaro sucks, use Endeavour OS instead
@BeTechAwareit doesn't. You can install it but it barely works. Better to just use yay
I transitioned to linux and one year later I'm transitioning genders too so... jokes on... me I guess?
median linux user:
LowTierGod has a good advice to you
many such cases
4:30 totally unnecessary and xenophobic comment. Even if you *think* that the CPC is not good, there's no reason to attack the chinese developers of Deepin. These types of comments are such a turn off on videos that were cool like this. Comments like this are so 2003-ish.
Manjaro experience these days :
you experience something annoying in the OS then you go asking or complaining about something in their forum and a dev replies in paragraphs before they lock the thread
i switched from windows to nixos (i need help)
There's a discourse and a Matrix Channel, mostly helpful people over there.
NixOS might be a quite difficult First time experience, though...
I wonder if this level of masochism extends to other parts of your life
@@lpnp9477 i dont know If it is that Bad. NixOS has a crazy amount of stuff to learn, but Most of is Independent of Linux in General,so might Not be as Bad as it sounds