NSM 45 rpm mech repair (PART 2) sticky/gummed up drive motor
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- Опубліковано 17 жов 2020
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Satellite 200 ES 3 ES III ESIII
PART 1 - Mech removal • NSM 45 rpm mech repair...
PART 3 - Turn table motor pivot fix • NSM 45 rpm mech repair...
PART 4 - A to B side shift won't work fix • NSM 45 rpm mech repair...
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Can I ask for the wire diagram from the selection box to the main control box
Because when I select say say 12A the numbers disappears but does move or select records ?
Sorry I have nothing available. Does the relay click at all on the power board? Does the motor turn freely by hand?
Hello your video is really interesting I have a question for you is the arm that lifts the record up and obviously the jukebox cannot work would you have any advice for me to repair it? I thank you in advance
Hi Massimo, check that the arm is not stuck on it's shaft. There are other things that can cause this issue but a close examination of the mech (all sides even underneath) can be helpful.
Super helpful! Do you have a place outside of ebay that you recommend for parts?
Thank you so much. I'm glad the video helped you out. Since NSM is German, there are suppliers over in Europe. If you were looking for something particular then that might be the best route. Google can steer you in the right direction. For more common items I prefer to search in the US.
Hi, Great Video’s. I’ve got an NSM City, not sure which one. I’ve got a problem with the turntable not turning. It moves up and down the carriage and picks a record but doesn’t turn the record. The problem started last year, it was picking the record but taking a bit of time to start playing. Now it just picks the record but doesn’t turn. “ Hope you can help “. Andrew from Scotland. Cheers.
Thank you for the compliment. I have not worked on any other NSM jukes. The only thing I have to offer is check that the turntable motor turns freely - they can seize up over time.
Thanks for sharing video...I have an NSM CITY...not the CITY II...could you please tell me what the difference was/is between the CITY and the CITY II?
Glad you liked the video. A few minutes on Google provided the answers. The main differences are the later city 2 has an updated control system and updated cabinet. My feeling is they were looking for a name for their latest machine. So they went with city 2 and made a series out of it. Apart from the name it does not appear to share much in common. Perhaps the cabinet size, good for a smaller location is there common link.
Hi Jeremy could you do a video on pulling apart and cleaning turntable motor Please.
Thanks for the great suggestion Greg ♥️ I can certainly do that.
Very helpful video, thanks a lot for uploading. Perhaps you have a solution for a problem of my consul E120? It always picks up the same record, plays it, takes it back, and picks it up again, plays it, and so on. Best regards from germany 😀
Thanks for the kind words Ralf. There could be a part of the mechanism binding up - thus not allowing it to change to travel mode. Also check that the solenoid under the mech operates properly.
@@PinballMayhem thanks a lot for answering so fast. I already cleaned the machine, but perhaps there is still a little bit of old grease left, that causes theese problemes. I'll give it another try with brake cleaner, then supply with fine machine oil.
I've heard the plastic clutch rod can break. This is a vertical square piece of plastic buried in the mech.
@@PinballMayhem this morning, I removed the machine, cleaned it up by using brake cleaner, then supplied oil to the metal parts, und silicon spray to the plastic parts. Now, for the moment, it works well again, would be happy, if it lasts for a while 😃 On the bottom of the machine, there is a lever, moved by a spring, and held by a cam. If this lever doesn't move, when released by the cam, the machine doesn't change from change disk to drive mode. That might have been the problem.
The washers take out the end play in the motor shaft. Did you notice how the NSM (I call the machine NFG) mechanism is just a cheap copy of Seeburg's mechanism?
Yep, the Seeburg mech is a mechanical marvel for sure 💚
Löwen Automaten was the german ditributor of Seeburg jukeboxes, NSM ( named after the 3 founders ,Nack , Shulze & Mencke) was making jukeboxes with a unique system (Fanfare 60-100) but this system was not handy for most operators so they went using the carriage on request of Löwen Automaten that was also distributing NSM and that's the only link between Seeburg and NSM. Some called it a cheap knock-of Seeburg I say it's a cheap improved system over Seeburg because for the price you bought 1 Seeburg you could almost buy 2 NSM juke's and that's why NSM did become one of the greatest jukebox manufacturer in the world . Seeburg went out of buisiness in the early '80's while NSM is still active and the claims Seeburg made to NSM didn't work out because the difference between both brands mechanisms were big enough. Fun Fact In the 70's NSM's version of the toroid memory unit (Seeburg Tormat) does not require a physical ground line and thats why the NSM version is made out of plastic and got away with the Tormat patent claim.
Most heard complain about NSM is the use of plastic gears, Yes plastic is cheap and gears breaks easyer but most carriages still work after 50 Years after a good lubrication and parts are still available so why make it in more expensive metal then? Good luck with the repairs hope you get the same appreciation that I got for this German now American brand that's part of antique apparatus since 1994 ( Rock-Ola bubbler and NSM Nostalgia gold are the same jukebox cabinet only with a different mechanism 😉) so you can see it has quite a huge history
Thanks for the great comment RKM. I learn something new every time I work on something. Plus I never knew that NSM made a tormat unit. There's an interesting history there for sure.
@@PinballMayhem You're welcome, maybe interesting, they were founded in 1953, they started with slot machines called rotamint. As said first they used a horizontal mechanism in their jukeboxes almost like a normal record changer between 1956 ( start production Fanfare 60) and 1959 (this system would pop up in some models in the '60's as a cheaper version of a model that was also available with the serenade mechanism) , from 1960 till 1968 they started with a carriage and a pinbank but different than Seeburg (Fanfare Silber was the first model but they called it the serenade stereo magic mechanism after the first open model jukebox with the carriage) between 1969 and 1976 they used the toroid system ( like the Century 21 of 1975 on my channel ) and in 1977 they started with the "E" serie wat stands for "Electronic" what runs on a programmed texas instuments TMS 1000 chip folowed by the ES system, a small improvement was made in de computer on the follow-up system called ES2 but is completely compatible. ES3 is only made for Löwen-Automaten (see indication below or above the word Satellite, the other model was the 240I that holds 120 records) the last system on 45 Rpm was ES4 final model was Galaxy 200 that is only made for America so its very rare here in Europe.
The ES 2- ES 3 and ES 4 were also made with a ortofon mechanism, on your satellite you can read " Model Satellite 200" the ortofon version is called "Model Satellite O- 200 or satellite 200_O "
The ES 4 carriage can be used on ES 3 jukeboxes but the ES 3 only carriage can not be used on ES 4
The first time they start using the Ortofon carriage was on the City II -O
There you have all the information in a nutshell
Best Regards,
Roy Kroesen
I figured it out...thanks anyway
Congrats on the repair! What was the final fix?
@@PinballMayhem took that rod and took 600 emery too it, cleaned and oiled ...works great now...you have helped me and a whole lot of people...thanks again.
@@j.d.sauter9900 Excellent, thanks for letting us know what the fix was.