My precision pen 2 stop working and I thought it's broken but I try everything I can it still no use so I went on line and saw a post in reddit the guy says if you press both buttons and hold it for 30 seconds it will reset the pen so I tried and now it works perfectly! I even went to Lenovo repair office but they don't even know about this reset method! They told me if it's in 1 year warranty they will replace a new one for me but if it's out of 1 year warranty they told me to throw away and just buy a new one! This is just crazy!
Pen button customization is app-dependent on Android. I am able to configure both side buttons in Infinite Painter to various in-app functions on the Wacom Bamboo Ink V2 w LG Velvet phone.
Thank you for the good video. I've seen all the other videos involved. I have a question. Does p11 pro support both aes2.0 and mpp? Why is the surface pen working? Are all working pens connected to p11 pro by Mpp? It doesn't make sense if the p11 pro doesn't support all of the aes,mpp, and it's amazing.
I'm so confused which stylus to get. I don't know anything about stylus specs. I'm looking for a pen that would work well with p11 pro. Is the surface pen good enough? I noticed it relatively cheaper than precision pen 2.
I agree that I would like to see the Lenovo pen used on a Surface Pro. I have 3 surface devices and 2 surface pens. I bought an alldocube 30 android tablet because it also could use the same stylus. The tablet broke very quickly. I trust Lenovo might last longer.
Thank you for this because I had to actually get a new laptop because my surface broke but I don't want to replace the pen because it's super good. The only thing I hate about the patent is I don't think it has tilt sensitivity but in all honesty I don't really need that too much
Good video, thanks for that. Weird question, though: did the Surface Pen work out of the box? I've got a M10 Plus (3rd gen.), which in theory should use the same three pen protocols than the P11 pro, at least according to the spec sheets, but the Surface pen won't be recognized. I saw in Settings/Pen, that the Lenovo Pen should be touched to the screen and button pressed, which might be Lenovo-specific, to activate the digitizer for the first time? Or is the M10 plus entirely incompatible for some obscure reason?
@@teohontech7141 Thanks very much for the quick answer! Is AES (only) certain? After more searching, I just found a reddit thread claiming it's WGP. Yeah, I think I may have read the spec sheet wrong. It says WGP, AES and MPP, but this apparently refers to the pen itself as listed under pen input, not the tablet as such... I must have assumed the P11 and M10 should be close enough, so your video using the Surface pen gave me hope. Well, that's too bad: I now have pens from various devices lying around with Wacom EMR, with MPP, and whatever obscure protocol Chuwi used a few years back... nothing works with the M10+ and I'd rather return the tablet than spend more money on yet another pen.
Thank you for the detailed review. I'm surprised that the MPP-based surface pen works on the wacom aes digitizer of the lenovo tablet. Can you check whether the lenovo pen works on the surface devices?
A little late, but to explain a few things for people who might come across this video, - This older "Surface Pen" is MPP 2.0 Tilt only. So this means Lenovo Tab P11 Pro is using MPP 2.0 digitizer - Lenovo "Precision Pen 2" has 3 protocols - MPP 2.0 Tilt, AES 2.0 Tilt, and Wacom WGP - New 2021 "Surface Slim Pen 2" is MPP 3.0, which is backwards compatible with MPP 2.0 devices - Wacom AES versions are NOT backwards compatible with each other, but some styluses support multiple versions of AES - Digitizers of MPP 2.0, AES 2.0 and USI all support Tilt, BUT their styluses are Tilt OPTIONAL, so make sure the pen specifically mentions "Tilt Support" if you need this feature - Stylus performance order goes: APP (Apple) = EMR (Samsung/Wacom) > MPP 3.0 (Microsoft) > MPP 2.0 = AES 2.0 (Wacom) > HPP (Huawei) > USI (Chromebook) > MPP 1.5 > AES 1.0 > MPP 1.0 - MPP digitizer is used on windows devices from Microsoft/HP consumer/Asus/MSI, and few android devices like Lenovo, Xiaomi, etc - Wacom AES digitizer is used on windows devices from Lenovo/HP business/Dell/Acer - Wacom EMR digitizer is used on Samsung android tablets, and windows devices from Samsung Galaxy/Acer Ezel series
Yes because this allows pen to detect minimal pressure changes to draw lines more accurately. But more importantly is whether the diagonal lines have jitter/wobble which is the deal breaker
@@canalcanal5386 should do. the precision pen 2 is a tri protocoll pen. it supports wacom aes (lenovo 2 in 1 laptops), wacom wgp (lenovo android tablets) and mpp which is the same one the surface pen uses. so if the surface pen works this one will work too.
Are they the same technology? I'm looking to buy a Lenovo Flex 14 and I have a Surface Pen (from Surface Pro 4). I wanna know if the Surface pen will work on it. Thanks
Hi, Thank you for this comparison video...very informative! I have a Lenovo Tab P11 (not pro). I've been able to pair my surface pen to the tablet, but am not able to get it to work at all (bamboo notes, etc...). Am I missing a step in order to make this work like in your video? Thanks in advance.
I'm not sure. Can the Surface Pen be used to click on things? If so the pen is working but not drawing. You have to test with some drawing apps. Free ones to test with are Medibang Paint, Concepts.
@@teohontech7141 thanks for the prompt reply. Nope, while the tablet indicates the the pen is indeed paired, but the tablet is unresponsive to pen clicks or writing.
@@teohontech7141 Tried that too…unfortunately, it’s not working on the P11. I guess my only option is going to be using the Precision Pen 2. Truly appreciate your help and suggestions!
Great tutorials. I just got a precision pen 2 for my p11 pro but...how do i get it to pair? No instructions or anything in settings to connect the pen?
a bit late and you probably have figured it out already but you dont need to pair it, in fact you cant as there is no bluetooth. just tap the screen with the precision pen 2 once and the pen should start working.
I have an old Asus Z stylus that is supposed to be Ntrig but it doesn't work with this tablet. That was disappointing. It's all very confusing. I don't really want to spend $70 for a pen I may not use much
hi, my Precision Pen 2 bottom button (Erase function) is not working on M10 Plus HD 3rd Gen, no matter the app, does anyone have similar experience to share? please help, thank you
i had the same question.as far as i know only the lenovo precision pen 2 works with it (i dont know about the precision pen 3). the precision pen 2 is the black hexagonal one shown in this video
Pretty badly, you should try it but in my experience it doesn't kind of work.... If you use it normally like a pen it doesn't do anything at all but when you tilt it like so little angle that screen touches the side part of the tip of the pen, you can click things but it doesn't draw....
Not sure. Lenovo Precision Pen 2 does not require connection. It does not have Bluetooth. Maybe contact Lenovo to see what they say. Not sure if it's a faulty pen.
@@theslayad9979 doesnt matter as the procedure is the same for both. just tap the screen with the pen and the pen should start working. he has the tab p11 pro.
"Both active stylus work on the Lenovo P11 Pro Android tablet": how about the opposite? Works the Lenovo pen on Windows tablet, e.g. Surface (Book); can a Lenovo pen replace a surface pen?
My precision pen 2 stop working and I thought it's broken but I try everything I can it still no use so I went on line and saw a post in reddit the guy says if you press both buttons and hold it for 30 seconds it will reset the pen so I tried and now it works perfectly! I even went to Lenovo repair office but they don't even know about this reset method! They told me if it's in 1 year warranty they will replace a new one for me but if it's out of 1 year warranty they told me to throw away and just buy a new one! This is just crazy!
Pen button customization is app-dependent on Android. I am able to configure both side buttons in Infinite Painter to various in-app functions on the Wacom Bamboo Ink V2 w LG Velvet phone.
this is exactly what i needed thank you 😊
I would buy the lenovo precision pen 2 but it is not available in my country India 😢. Thank teoh for an trustworthy substitute 😀
Thank you for the good video. I've seen all the other videos involved.
I have a question.
Does p11 pro support both aes2.0 and mpp? Why is the surface pen working?
Are all working pens connected to p11 pro by Mpp?
It doesn't make sense if the p11 pro doesn't support all of the aes,mpp, and it's amazing.
Looking at the yoga 7i I gen 7 16 inch and wondering does the precision pen work on it?
Does the surface pen work on yoga 7i?
I'm so confused which stylus to get. I don't know anything about stylus specs. I'm looking for a pen that would work well with p11 pro. Is the surface pen good enough? I noticed it relatively cheaper than precision pen 2.
Great comparison !!
Can the surface pen be used on a Lenovo ideapad c340 ?
I agree that I would like to see the Lenovo pen used on a Surface Pro. I have 3 surface devices and 2 surface pens. I bought an alldocube 30 android tablet because it also could use the same stylus. The tablet broke very quickly. I trust Lenovo might last longer.
Thank you for this because I had to actually get a new laptop because my surface broke but I don't want to replace the pen because it's super good. The only thing I hate about the patent is I don't think it has tilt sensitivity but in all honesty I don't really need that too much
the surface has tilt sensitivity atleast if it is a newer one.
how did u conect it to use the palm rejection ?
Will lenovo precision pen 2 work with Lenovo duet chromebook
What do I have to do to connect my surface pen to my lenovo p11 pro 2 gen tablet? Thank you
Good video, thanks for that. Weird question, though: did the Surface Pen work out of the box? I've got a M10 Plus (3rd gen.), which in theory should use the same three pen protocols than the P11 pro, at least according to the spec sheets, but the Surface pen won't be recognized. I saw in Settings/Pen, that the Lenovo Pen should be touched to the screen and button pressed, which might be Lenovo-specific, to activate the digitizer for the first time? Or is the M10 plus entirely incompatible for some obscure reason?
Lenovo M10 Plus is compatible with Lenovo Precision Pen 2 which uses Wacom AES 2. But Microsoft pen supports MPP so it's probably not compatible.
@@teohontech7141 Thanks very much for the quick answer! Is AES (only) certain? After more searching, I just found a reddit thread claiming it's WGP. Yeah, I think I may have read the spec sheet wrong. It says WGP, AES and MPP, but this apparently refers to the pen itself as listed under pen input, not the tablet as such... I must have assumed the P11 and M10 should be close enough, so your video using the Surface pen gave me hope. Well, that's too bad: I now have pens from various devices lying around with Wacom EMR, with MPP, and whatever obscure protocol Chuwi used a few years back... nothing works with the M10+ and I'd rather return the tablet than spend more money on yet another pen.
@@teohontech7141 do you know if the pen of Microsoft surface pro 3 is compatible with Lenovo Tab P11 Pro?
@@dovgolovaty3910 Not compatible
Which has better Tilt sensititiy ?
Thank you for the detailed review. I'm surprised that the MPP-based surface pen works on the wacom aes digitizer of the lenovo tablet. Can you check whether the lenovo pen works on the surface devices?
teoh do this too
Yes please do that.
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A little late, but to explain a few things for people who might come across this video,
- This older "Surface Pen" is MPP 2.0 Tilt only. So this means Lenovo Tab P11 Pro is using MPP 2.0 digitizer
- Lenovo "Precision Pen 2" has 3 protocols - MPP 2.0 Tilt, AES 2.0 Tilt, and Wacom WGP
- New 2021 "Surface Slim Pen 2" is MPP 3.0, which is backwards compatible with MPP 2.0 devices
- Wacom AES versions are NOT backwards compatible with each other, but some styluses support multiple versions of AES
- Digitizers of MPP 2.0, AES 2.0 and USI all support Tilt, BUT their styluses are Tilt OPTIONAL, so make sure the pen specifically mentions "Tilt Support" if you need this feature
- Stylus performance order goes: APP (Apple) = EMR (Samsung/Wacom) > MPP 3.0 (Microsoft) > MPP 2.0 = AES 2.0 (Wacom) > HPP (Huawei) > USI (Chromebook) > MPP 1.5 > AES 1.0 > MPP 1.0
- MPP digitizer is used on windows devices from Microsoft/HP consumer/Asus/MSI, and few android devices like Lenovo, Xiaomi, etc
- Wacom AES digitizer is used on windows devices from Lenovo/HP business/Dell/Acer
- Wacom EMR digitizer is used on Samsung android tablets, and windows devices from Samsung Galaxy/Acer Ezel series
@@blue4059 Thanks alot for the info
Podria poner un video de como enlazar el surface pen con la lenovo tab p11 pro?
Hey Teoh, I am a little confused. Is the Lenovo pen behaving "more sensitive" and having "lower initial activation force" a good thing?
Yes because this allows pen to detect minimal pressure changes to draw lines more accurately. But more importantly is whether the diagonal lines have jitter/wobble which is the deal breaker
@@teohontech7141 Thanks!
Great comparision/ Do you think either of them will work on old 2-in-1 laptops like Acer Switch 5 (it comes with Acer Active Pen) ? Thanks.
Not sure about that. Most pens are not interchangeable across different brands.
@@teohontech7141 thanks because the surface pen works with it so was hoping the precision would too. I've ordered it to see if it works.
@@ShrawanRegmi It Works?
@@canalcanal5386 should do. the precision pen 2 is a tri protocoll pen. it supports wacom aes (lenovo 2 in 1 laptops), wacom wgp (lenovo android tablets) and mpp which is the same one the surface pen uses. so if the surface pen works this one will work too.
many thanks
Are they the same technology? I'm looking to buy a Lenovo Flex 14 and I have a Surface Pen (from Surface Pro 4). I wanna know if the Surface pen will work on it. Thanks
did it wokr with it?
Line tests are probably best done with a ruier. That way you can be sure that you get the same results.
Does pp2 has considerable input lag....m thinking of buying lenovo m10 fhd 3rd gen tablet for drawing....or should i go for ipad 9
it doesnt have much input lag (only if you make very fast lines the line lags behind a bit, everything else is fine)
Hi,
Thank you for this comparison video...very informative! I have a Lenovo Tab P11 (not pro). I've been able to pair my surface pen to the tablet, but am not able to get it to work at all (bamboo notes, etc...). Am I missing a step in order to make this work like in your video? Thanks in advance.
I'm not sure. Can the Surface Pen be used to click on things? If so the pen is working but not drawing. You have to test with some drawing apps. Free ones to test with are Medibang Paint, Concepts.
@@teohontech7141 thanks for the prompt reply. Nope, while the tablet indicates the the pen is indeed paired, but the tablet is unresponsive to pen clicks or writing.
@@frednoce3043 Maybe try to unpair and write. Actually no pairing is necessary for the pen to work.
@@teohontech7141 Tried that too…unfortunately, it’s not working on the P11. I guess my only option is going to be using the Precision Pen 2. Truly appreciate your help and suggestions!
surface pen cannot be used with p11 but with p11 pro.
Great tutorials. I just got a precision pen 2 for my p11 pro but...how do i get it to pair? No instructions or anything in settings to connect the pen?
a bit late and you probably have figured it out already but you dont need to pair it, in fact you cant as there is no bluetooth. just tap the screen with the precision pen 2 once and the pen should start working.
On bamboo pen you need to click both bottoms and it will be set
Its annoying that you need to do that everytime
I have an old Asus Z stylus that is supposed to be Ntrig but it doesn't work with this tablet. That was disappointing. It's all very confusing. I don't really want to spend $70 for a pen I may not use much
How surface pen work with wacom aes ?????
Sir, from where we can by a new battery for the precision pen??
That Precision Pen uses a built-in battery. You can't replace the battery.
hi, my Precision Pen 2 bottom button (Erase function) is not working on M10 Plus HD 3rd Gen, no matter the app, does anyone have similar experience to share? please help, thank you
I have a question, how to connect Surface Pen with Lenovo Tab P11?
+1
I have the same question ??
Hi Can you confirm if active pen 1 can use to lenovo p11. not pro
Did u buy any pen ?
Is the precision pen compatible with the lenovo ideapad flex 5 ?
yes
What This is model surface pen please?
Man I'm still confused on why the hell is replacement nibs for the PP2 is almost imposible to find...
wacom bamboo ink plus nibs will work.
so does the lenovo pen only work on their pads or also on other devices like my yoga 9i?
I too have the yoga 9i and wondering the same thing...
@@tenerife_sea I tested it, all AES2 pen should work on it
precision pen 2 wins for the rechargability aspect alone. no weird aaaa batterys to obtain
Amazing video.... Can you please tell me will Lenovo Active Pen 2 work with P11 plus tablet...
Will highly appreciate if you answer my query..thnx
i had the same question.as far as i know only the lenovo precision pen 2 works with it (i dont know about the precision pen 3). the precision pen 2 is the black hexagonal one shown in this video
@@SimonBauer7 Thnx bro. You saved me plenty of money ... Was about to order Active pen 2 ...
does the surface pen works on the common p11?? (not the pro)
No
Is there any way to turn of the pen Cursor?
I think you can find that option in the pen setting
how to configure buttons?
Hi, the surface pen works on lenovo P11 (not pro) also?
Yes it works
@@marvam8910 how
it doesnt.
i would like to know how too
Is Lenovo pen, an active or capacitive stylus?
active.
Hi, can the surface pen work on the regular P11?
Pretty badly, you should try it but in my experience it doesn't kind of work.... If you use it normally like a pen it doesn't do anything at all but when you tilt it like so little angle that screen touches the side part of the tip of the pen, you can click things but it doesn't draw....
no it doesnt work. just get the precision pen 2, active pen 3 or lazarite m pen.
Lenovo 💪👍😍🤗💥🔥🔥🔥
Will the Wacom one pen work with Lenovo p11 (not pro) tab ??? 😭
no, as it uses the wacom emr protocoll, the tablet uses the wacom wgp protocoll meaning only the precision pen 2 and active pen 3 work with it.
also the lazarite m pen works.
Compare those with huawei plz
Where can you find replacement tips lenovo precision pen 2?
Try AliExpress
@@teohontech7141 as far as i know the wacom bamboo ink plus nibs will work.
Hi teoh my precision pen 2 is not working on my lenovo p11 tab pro. How do you connect it to tablet?
Not sure. Lenovo Precision Pen 2 does not require connection. It does not have Bluetooth. Maybe contact Lenovo to see what they say. Not sure if it's a faulty pen.
Which one do you have
Pro or plus
@@theslayad9979 doesnt matter as the procedure is the same for both. just tap the screen with the pen and the pen should start working. he has the tab p11 pro.
surface pen is low price comparate precision pen 2, very good test
你是怎么做到的
surface pen active rejection palm?
Yes, but how good palm rejection is will also depend on the apps you use.
Wait what, Lenovo using MPP instead of AES?
This Lenovo uses Wacom AES
@@teohontech7141 so is that mean is MPP pen is really works on AES?
Wow this is really surprising
"Both active stylus work on the Lenovo P11 Pro Android tablet": how about the opposite? Works the Lenovo pen on Windows tablet, e.g. Surface (Book); can a Lenovo pen replace a surface pen?
Lenovo pen does not work on Surface
@@teohontech7141 but it does. it supports mpp.
Bro app name plz
Medibang, Sketchbook, Concepts
You should practice drawing lines your not that smooth.