Apple Pencil vs. Surface Pen vs. Samsung S Pen: The Best Tablet-Stylus Combo | WSJ
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- Опубліковано 2 тра 2024
- Styluses have come a long way in the last decade, inching closer and closer to a pen-and-paper experience. WSJ's Kenny Wassus tested the three leading tablet-stylus combos from Apple, Microsoft and Samsung, to see which pairing is best for sketching and note-taking. Photo illustration: Kenny Wassus
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Apple pencil: being chunky outdated, having cheap plastic feel that you have to charge
S-pen: slim like actual pen, having natural feel to it, technologically advanced, and doesn't require charging
The reviewer: I like them thick
They should have emphasized the fact that the S-Pen is included at no extra charge. The S-Pen is by far more superior in every aspect except for build quality - which is arguably excusable since it's free.
Yep, for something that is included, its great. Technically Apple Pencil and Surface Pen seems superior, but they are not pre-included and rather expensive to buy.
also you can buy different pens which are compatible like the staedler norris digital (jumbo), the lamy emr or the wacom one pen.
Also, the biggest plus side of S-Pen is that it will WORK even WITHOUT BATTERY
As somebody who owns all three of them and writing is the main purpose of using a tablet, s pen is THE superior pen. Hands down. If you love writing on a glass board with hard plastic go with apple. No real reason to use surface whatsoever. S pen feels like actual writing and the responsiveness of having that line coming instantly from the tip of the pen I am using is what I am talking about. Surface pen slim 2 is clearly lagging behind and you can just see it by using them side by side. Apple pencil 2 is better than surface pen slim 2 but you still glide on the glass. This video is seriously biased to Apple. Probably the person uses iPad all the time and got used to the glass feeling but unless you don't care about Apple taking your money with the hype and "design". Gotta go with spen if you actually want to enjoy writing
Definitely better than all the others
the comments on the video are more useful than the actual video. Even without knowing much about stylus, the reviewer felt very biased to apple, glad I read the comments, they seems way more unbiased with actual reasonings for their choices
As an owner of both the ipad/pencil and tab s7+ with the FREE included spen, I can say without hesitation that the Samsung offers a far superior pen experience. It's like writing with an actual pen on a notebook. Apple has alot of catching up to do at this point.
Really ??
@@anemone8057 You can *hear* the unnatural clacking of the Apple Pencil.
@@anemone8057 yes, the apple pencil has a weird hard plastic on glass feel, and along with the loud annoying clacking oh, there's also no friction so it's very hard for me to write neatly. My already bad handwriting went to nearly illegible
Can you please tell if the s pen tips are durable??
@@soumojjalsen1915 Ive been using mine heavily for 4 months and mine still looks fine. I've seen that they sell them on amazon for cheap, so not too worried about getting replacements
Air Actions with the S pen, huge miss in this review.
Remote shutter for the camera, run power point presentations from the stylus... What about converting handwriting to text? I have terrible penmanship, my galaxy tab can keep pace with the native software. The ability to draw is just one facet of these accessories. Would have expected a more well rounded review from wsj.
"s pen is more like a sharpie marker"
You just explained why I love it
Owner of all three, there is really no comparison between the three... surface pro slim pen is 3rd without question, the Apple pen has the length as a positive but the tip is terrible unless one adds the drawing film to the iPad, by far the closest to real writing and drawing is the Spen, and I've written hundreds of notes and made dozens multi layers drawings and still haven't had to change the nib, and when taking into account all the functionality of the spen in terms of software integration it blows them both out the water. Also the review should have been done with the Tab S8 Ultra which is Samsung's largest and most powerful device and takes both drawing and note taking to another level given the screen real estate and best screen quality given super amoled deep blacks, etc.
also the air actions in spen and the nib is replacable. i owned a note 9 . i got a 3 nibs of different hardness and a tool to replace then nib included with the box . and older sansung tablets had replacaple nibs . and the nibs i got with my note 9 are as same as those nibs of tablet s pens. the switched to irreplacable nibs in s22 u and s23 u (not sure about tablets). but they switched back to replacible spen nib with s24 ultra
This is really a half-assed review. No mention of the fact some of them have erase function built into the back of the pen? Really the cheapest pen option is any of the smaller wacom pens, which can be had from as low as $10. Plus, wacom/samsung S-Pen is the only one of these options that doesn't require a battery & comes with the pen standard.
Personally, for me as a note taker I will stick with either with the older Surface Pro Pen from the SP6 generation with replaceable batteries or a Wacom AES based device. I can use the pen as long as I keep finding AAAA batteries, which my local Walgreens sells. No need to replace the whole pen when the battery can't hold a charge.
On the Samsung side, you should have assessed the options from staedtler as well as the Wacom one stylus. These are some of the most popular alternatives and are 30 bucks a pop.
also there is the lamy emr which is a fountain pen with the emr tech inside instead of the normal ink
Couldnt put that samsung pro version because it would win by landslide lol
ikr
You really should have compared the S Pen Pro along with the others (they are at that level)... My first impression by watching the video is that the Samsung's stylus is terrible in comparison, whereas we know it ain't true since the one compared here was the cheaper version....
Cheaper? It comes "free" with every device that supports it
@@Stephan905 Yup...
@@Stephan905 yea cheaper. replacement s pens cost ~40€ so i would say that is the true price of one.
@@Stephan905 and it is already strong even without the pro version
Terrible biased comparison. The S Pen is way superior not only in feeling on hand, but also in functionality compared to the other two. The S pen doesn't need charging, and it's included with the Samsung tablets that support it. This reviewer flat out lied about the durability of the nibs on the spen as well, the nibs are durable and its easy to find third party replacements online if ever needed it.
Edit: typos.
🛐🛐🗿 yeah man it was baised
All of the active styluses require charging. To the best of my knowledge, it’s just that the S own and Apple Pencil can be charged wirelessly when docked which gives you the illusion that it doesn’t need to be changed when in reality, one uses a capitate while the other uses a battery
@@chrischoy9S pen needs charge for air actions, but not for writing. You can turn off air actions if you don't use them and never charge the spen ever again and it will still work. It is a different technology.
Pressure sensitivity? Tilt function? Yeah, no. There's a reason why artists buy an iPad instead of a Samsung tablet, the Apple Pencil is comparable to wacom's pen.
@@alfanscholz8663Yup, it has both pressure sensitivity AND tilt functions. It has better functionality. More customizibility of that functionality, and also a more "paper" feel to it. It doesn't need charge ro work, and the "battery" doesn't deteriorate over time since it's just a capacitor. But the Apple Pencil does feel sturdier. I have both the apple pencil gen 2 (iPad Air 5) and a Galaxy Tab S9 Ultra with Spen.
After using both apple pencil and spen, I found the latter to be a much better experience.
sure you did...
The Apple Pencil has too wide of a drawing tip. How do you make tiny corrections with it?
Why did you not test the s pen Pro? Costs the same as the other options
What's bad about Surface Pen are the Surface Pros screen are really soft and so when you put pressure with the pen tip you can feel the screen being pushed in.
Is it for all the surface pros or specific surface pro. I am trying to buy Surface Pro 9. For my note taking and i don't type much most of my note includes mathematical equations and physics derivation.
@@goclip9381 You will be fine for note taking. It’s a dealbreaker for me only because I do a lot of digital painting as a hobby, and even that depends on personal preference. But as far as note taking goes it is great.
Well, this was poorly researched, wasn't it?
Yes, of the three, they all do have their strengths. But you did the S Pen/Wacom EMR dirty with your laziness in your research.
There are offered replacements for the S pen, and why did you review $120-$130 pens against Samsung's $60 pen when they also offer an S Pen Pro that is $100 and is more geared towards this higher market
The creator is just an Apple fan boy biased.
Samsung doesn't offer replacement tips? Every S Pen I've owned the tips came included.
also online you find thousends of options
even with note 9 3 extra nibs of different hardness and a tool to remove came included in the box
Unfortunately I can't speak for the Apple and Surface Pen because I never used them but only the S Pen and it's definitely a cool pen, the air gestures are a bit gimmicky but they're there and if you need them you're covered, the drawing is fine (I'm not an artist so I can't give proper feedback about that) and it came with my Tablet which is great because I wouldn't have considered it at all.
😆 if you look closely on how he tested the pens you can see that he hasn't laid his palm on the screen 😆 probably because he's so used to the apple pencil
S-pen users know
Wha? When I bought my tab s6 lite the s pen came with the tablet I didn’t buy it
Can you please tell if the s pen tips are durable??
S pen feels natural. That rubber tip is really good. It just feels like writing on paper
A stylus omitted in this video people should consider is STAEDTLER Noris digital
@ 0:52 you already messed up. The S-Pen is included in the box with samsung tablets. You shouldn't have listed it at $60 since it's free with the purchase. Apple doesn't include their pencil and unlike apples pencil which becomes useless when it dies the S-Pen only loses its Bluetooth functions when it dies. You can still use it to draw and native/etc. The apple pencil you can't use at all. I can't comment on the surface pen because i have no idea how it works or if it's included
Those opening macro shots 🤌🏼🤌🏼
Goodnotes is available on android?
Samsung does offer replacement... i ordered a lot of pen tips from Samsung already.
the samsung spen has hard tips included in the box. so you can switch between them. you didnt specify that
The Microsoft pen looks like a Thermometer
RENAISSER Raphael 530 any good?
Isnt the S pen the real budget option, as it's included with the tablet. Or compare it to the S pen Pro as you have to buy that....
I feel, Samsung S Pen is better
He’s a pro, he knows better than you.
@@jundooz This 'pro' didn't even bother to find out that there are other pens that you can get instead of the S Pen.
And he must be really abusing that S Pen to need to regularly change the tips.
@@jundooz he's not, nobody is a pro, it all comes down to individual experience...
@Leo The Apple Pencil is always very slippery on the screen. S Pen is the best Pen you can get for a tablet. No batteries required and it has 9ms response time.
Apple should be awake because competition is catching up?
Uhmmm smart styluses were already a thing since the Galaxy Note from 2012 .. and every year Samsung kept improving the formula by adding functionality, and new wireless control features.
also there where wacom drawing tablets even before that so...
Apple was the one that started catching up to the competition and then excelling at it rather than the other way around
@@chrischoy9 i would want to say that Apple is excelling at it, but reviewing the features they added in 2022, reminded me too that those features have been present from other devices with Wacom technology for years. i do want to give them credit for the design, ease of use and ergonomics of the pencil.
Huge android fan boy here. I also hate styluses that need charging
That said the tips of the wacom pens are a deal breaker for me. They wear down quickly and taper so abruptly that i have a hard time accurately gauging tip location when drawing
I currently use an ipad mini 6 and AP2, but I'm looking to upgrade to a surface laptop studio with a slim pen 2
Bruh if you're an android fanboy buy the Tab S9 or S8, the S Pen is included free in the box, it doesn't require charging to write only for Bluetooth features like taking pictures with the S Pen and the nib gives the closest feel to writing on paper. Also Samsung DeX is better than anything Apple has in offer.
You should have tested other PC makers pens too
S pen for the win. Plus it works on our phones💪🏿💪🏿 s pen fold baybee
paperlike is not necessary, i use a $10 matte screen protector from amazon
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but as some have said, it's better to compare with Samsung's S Pen Pro
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Why are you comparing 100 and 120$ pens to samsungs 70$ spen. You shouldve bought the pro version for comparison
samsungs costs 40€/40£ (dollar euro is the same currently)
A feedback: it would have better if the background of the tablets was plain in the video
Is the microsoft pen can work with all windows laptop
it only will work on devices with mpp such as the Microsoft surface, asus 2 in 1 laptops and hp 2 in 1 laptops. lenovo uses wacom aes.
This video was not convincing at all, the question was between the pens no one asked for what apps support what, etc...and the s pen is better in all aspects except for build quality, considering the fact that it's free
was it me or he was abit biased on apple
I feel the same, he barely mentions anything else other than Apple
I use the S-pen, though it comes free the nib is soft and I get annoyed by that a bit and I prefer a hard tip. It is also very thin and a bit uncomfortable to hold.
i love my s23 ultra s pen and personally i think its probably better than the tab 8 pen
how stupid was i
@@sleepynet13What made you change your mind? I have a s23 that I draw on but am looking to convert to a bigger screen with a more natural drawing feel. I've been thinking about the iPad with the paper-like screen cover and pen, but should I reconsider?
@@sleepynet13what happened?
Renaisser ?
I thought the iPad Pencil improved immensely with the paper like screen protector?
I would check out some of the reviews of the paper like screen protector. Turns out it eats away at the tip. My friend purchased the screen protector and it ended up breaking her pencil within few months due to the rough texture eating away at the tip. Its similar to rubbing an apple pen on concrete.
@@ramiromaldonado633 MVP comment! Thanks! I’ve always been hesitant to put screens on screens. No one buys a brand new TV or monitor and goes let me get a screen protector.
@@ramiromaldonado633 ive never heard about this issue, personally ive been using paperlike for 6 months and i see no visible damage, and i use my pencil atleast 4 hours a day
Yup, but you need to buy from good brand tho, a cheap 5$ paperlike Will eat away your tips most likely, i buy cheap one because i'm on budget, its been almost 2 year and i just change the tips 3 month ago, thank fully there so much off brand Apple pen tips that i can buy, and its doesn't Matter if my screen got scratch, its a screen protector after all
recently started using the first version of the apple pencil after a couple of years of using the s pen, and the apple pencil is WAY too heavy, it feels way too top heavy hand the tip is not thin enough in my opinion
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The fact that I don't have to charge the s pen is what makes it the winner for me.
I wonder why you didn’t include the Wacom one pen. It’s perfect for Sam devices.
Wasn't spen free?
1:50 I think I fine just getting a Matte screen protector than that haptic feedback, since the haptic feedback might introduce more wear on the screen and damage it or scratch it up.
it wont. it is glass vs plastic. glass is wayyy harder than plastic. the nib is plastic, screen is glass.
The apple pencil rolls the same as one with a flat side. One of the parts of it is weighted so it stops rolling possibly betger than some styluses with flat sides.
I bought one for $10 on Amazon, works really well
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Such a bad review, the spen is soooo much better
S8ultra or it's not a fair comparison
As an Ipad user, I’m gonna say Spen is indeed miles ahead. I still love my Ipad coz the software works well for me, but writing with apple pencil kinda sucks, it ain’t as accurate and the tip is too bulky, and the writing feel is meh
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Apple tells the competition what to make and when they start making them better, Apple tells them to make something else. You know I mean.
it'd b nice 2 hear abt phones
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surface pen 2 is the best, dont talk abt drawing only, its writing that defines the versatility of the pen.
Why write when typing is faster
Surface is a full blown pc windows operating system.
Just limiting to writing and drawing doesn't define versatility. The actions that you can do with S-Pen is what versatility is.
@@andrews3951 ikr
if the budget option is 70 bucks, u know ur on the wrong video...
!? Surprisingly how the plural issue grates
You can tell this guy is biased Apple fanboy. He likes apple pencil with ipad and couldn't think of anything better than ProCreate... goes to show he ain't a designer. If you are in Android and Microsoft you got: Clip Studio Paint, Infinite Painter, Krita, Medibang, Affinity Photo, Line Sketch, Autodesk Sketchbook Pro, etc... He only mentions Photoshop after that... can take this review seriously 😂
Expensive doesn't equal overpriced and cheaper doesn't mean better deal. I think this is the most important thing a young adult can learn before buying a tablet pen.
a well-priced, top of specs item doesn't guarantee anything if the repairs & its aftermarket is wack... cough
But when talking about the difference between a $180 plastic pencil and a free pen included with the tablet, that can't go without consideration. The spen is a superior writing experience. Period. I've tried both and the hard plastic tip clacking on a glass screen is a no from me dog.
@@keithsmith2791 for me the spen also feels more accurate due to its pointier tip.
@@keithsmith2791 and i can say Apple pen is superior drawing experience, very nice
That goes both ways though... More expensive =/= 'better', either
Spen
Designed in California.
Reviewed by a Apple fanboy
Come on… that was weird… I have used the SPen and Apple Pencil. The S pen for writing is far superior. Feels like writing on a notebook. The Apple Pencil… in a glass. I hate that tapping sound.
I am searching for a tip replacement for the Apple Pencil to feel like the S Pen. If anyone knows, I would love to hear from you.
Natural media everytime.
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"Sell me this pen" 🤓
samsung offers replacement nibs.
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I bought a $20 no-name Stylus and it out preforms my iPencil on my iPad Pro, …and it even works on my Android phone; and “if” my MacBook Air had a touch-screen, I’m sure it would have functioned beautifully as well; 🙄
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sorrry but good notes is also avaible for android and ios
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How much did apple pay for this video ??? or is the reviewer an apple fanboy ?
Apple pen is just superior 💪💪 with pro level software support, its just a fact, not only that Apple pen also have so many 3rd part tips that you could buy,
Apple air m1 with Apple pen 2 pair with that metal tips and paperlike, bah! Super!! Can but used for professional artist and could be used for just writing, to good
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All this talk about stylus types for the various tablets doesn’t address the issue of quality applications and usefulness of the tablets themselves. I have used both Apple and Samsung and found the iPad to be worth its weight in gold…not so for Samsung.
You need to try the new Samsung s7/s8 line. I used to have an iPad, but they second I tried the spen on the new Samsung tabs I was hooked. The only necessary apps are all there, ipad literally has nothing on samsung at this point
@@keithsmith2791 samsung has procreate? lol
@@spaceman-pe5je not everyone is artist brain dead. He literally said ‘only necessary apps’. Just like me, many want tablets for academic purposes and Samsung notes is flawless compared to Apple notes. To be honest Samsung notes is on the same league as notability and good notes.
i agree@@phadai5103
@@phadai5103 Yeah, but when you only need the pen, for taking nots, then this whole comparison is useless, as even cheapest pen for 10€ would be enough, as you dont need any of high end features that are there specifically for drawing.
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What a waste of energy this upload is.
Apple pencil is way better in terms of note taking and drawing if you have a paper like screen protector, and its build quality is superb but it does come with a hefty price
just another apple fanboy…
dont even bother…
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These are patented and only big companies can afford to produce these pens. Capitalism.
That's not true, there are many lesser known brands using Wacom AES, EMR(like the S-Pen) or MPP/N-Trig(any surface after the Pro 2). Plus, there is USI, which is technically an open standard that anyone can use & comes on many ChromeOS devices that aren't using one of the Wacom models.
this guy is defo anti samsung so biased towards apple
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