The Trade: Herschel Walker to the Vikings

Поділитися
Вставка
  • Опубліковано 15 бер 2023
  • Go to my sponsor aura.com/Utree to try 14 days and let Aura go to work protecting your private information online.
    In the realm of trading, you always want to come out on top in a deal. Sometimes, both sides come out successful. Take, for example, the Matthew Stafford trade (so far): The Lions got draft picks to help them build for the future and the Rams won a Super Bowl out of it. However, there are other deals where the trade ends up so lopsided that it changes the course of history. The big one, in this regard, is the infamous Herschel Walker trade.
    Minnesota felt they were one piece away from a Super Bowl run. Dallas was merely trying to get what they could to rebuild a broken and decrepit franchise. Many believed that the Vikings fleeced the Cowboys at the time.
    History showed us otherwise. This video will explain everything that went into one of the most infamous deals in NFL history (hopefully).
  • Спорт

КОМЕНТАРІ • 744

  • @austinemms9772
    @austinemms9772 Рік тому +1197

    The important thing about the Cowboys dynasty is that they had to scout the right guys and develop them properly. Just another great example that if drafting was easy, Mel Kiper Jr. would be good at it.

    • @heribertoruizjr.5296
      @heribertoruizjr.5296 Рік тому +5

      True the best team in the 90s well apart the smelly whiners

    • @MazeDaGr8
      @MazeDaGr8 Рік тому +32

      That is true many people seem to forget that Even if you have a bunch of picks, you still need to have a keen eye for talent

    • @fortynights1513
      @fortynights1513 Рік тому +15

      You have to develop the players you draft.
      Picks give you an opportunity to improve, but you still need to execute.

    • @andrewgrove1691
      @andrewgrove1691 Рік тому +4

      @@heribertoruizjr.5296 cause of jerry Jones ego

    • @jaylucien669
      @jaylucien669 Рік тому +23

      Mel Kiper Jr works for the media and not an NFL Franchise for very good reasons.

  • @LordyT34
    @LordyT34 Рік тому +475

    The Trade sounds like a series with a lot of potential!

    • @Kaiden-9226
      @Kaiden-9226 Рік тому +11

      It remind me of what KTO does

    • @Eibarwoman
      @Eibarwoman Рік тому +12

      Can't wait for the Miguel Cabrera and Dontrelle Willis for a bunch of prospects which didn't do that much for the Marlins.

    • @maxwasson2000
      @maxwasson2000 Рік тому +14

      Nets edition

    • @chrisuncleahmad
      @chrisuncleahmad Рік тому +8

      Eric Lindros

    • @nathanielduncan4692
      @nathanielduncan4692 Рік тому +4

      @@maxwasson2000 that will be great.

  • @michaelreich4827
    @michaelreich4827 Рік тому +264

    In 1990, the Cowboys didn't have a 1st round pick because they used it in the 1989 Supplemental Draft on Steve Walsh (after taking Aikman #1). Part of the Walker deal gave Dallas Minnesota's 1st rounder. And who did they take with it? Emmitt. That alone won the trade for the Cowboys.

    • @jaylucien669
      @jaylucien669 Рік тому +17

      Indeed, but it sure was awesome that it didn't stop there lol.

    • @kennyo6582
      @kennyo6582 Рік тому +12

      the Minnesota 1st round pick for Walker was the 21st overall pick. Dallas bundled Minnesota's 1st round No. 21 pick and Minnesota's 2nd round pick they also got for Walker in a deal to move up from #21 to # 17. They thought Emmitt would be gone by the 21st pick. They burned two of the Walker picks to get Emmitt, but he was totally worth it.

    • @mjwatts1983
      @mjwatts1983 Рік тому +2

      Don’t forget Darren Woodson and let another team tank so they can get Russell Maryland
      Then there was one more piece
      The 49ers were fed up with Charles Haley’s antics. Read “Boys Will Be Boys” for more details

    • @AEMoreira81
      @AEMoreira81 5 місяців тому +1

      @@mjwatts1983- Woodson was a second round pick but the Cowboys got 13 seasons out of him.

  • @zenith2930
    @zenith2930 Рік тому +201

    Jimmy Johnson needs more recognition for the 90s monster he made

    • @dollartwentychickentendies
      @dollartwentychickentendies Рік тому +55

      Firing him was the dumbest move Jerry ever made, (I mean, thankfully for the rest of us, he did it. But the 'Boys could have wrangled at least one more SB out of that core with Johnson instead of Switzer at the helm.)

    • @zenith2930
      @zenith2930 Рік тому +19

      @@dollartwentychickentendies I think if Jimmy was the coach until the wheels fell apart I think they should have gotten realistically 4 Superbowls in a row but I'm not sure if they would have gotten a 5th Superbowl in the 90s

    • @jaylucien669
      @jaylucien669 Рік тому +27

      By "more," you mean ALL. Because it was ALL him. Jerry's biggest and most important contribution back then was signing off on Jimmy's decisions.

    • @djtrankilo231
      @djtrankilo231 Рік тому +2

      @Tristan unfortunately, his stint in Miami makes Jerry look good now, according to the "experts"

    • @fortynights1513
      @fortynights1513 Рік тому +1

      @@djtrankilo231 He coached New Orleans?

  • @jallison5457
    @jallison5457 Рік тому +41

    Jimmy Johnson is a genius. He created a dynasty, Jerry doesn’t have any of those titles without Jimmy”s vision.

  • @jackmiller-johnston8689
    @jackmiller-johnston8689 Рік тому +43

    Mike Lynn got absolutely fleeced. Imagine listening in to that phone call between him and Jimmy Johnson when he was told, the Cowboys were going to cut all the traded former Vikes...yikes, that's utterly ruthless

    • @davidkuhlman8004
      @davidkuhlman8004 Рік тому +1

      a draft pick for each player cut too.

    • @zlinedavid
      @zlinedavid 3 місяці тому

      You just know JJ had a raging hardon about 45 seconds into that call. Dude knew exactly what he was going to do.

    • @Tyrunner0097
      @Tyrunner0097 Місяць тому

      He should've realized something was up when Jimmy asked for conditional draft picks to EACH PLAYER. Lynn was stupid and naive.

  • @R2M_Productions
    @R2M_Productions Рік тому +51

    There’s an interesting part of this story that was uncovered recently. Jimmy Johnson actually nearly traded Michael Irvin to the Raiders, but Al Davis flat out told him over the phone “you need Michael Irvin”. What would have happened if they went through with this and Irvin became a Raider?

    • @EastCoastMikeP
      @EastCoastMikeP Рік тому +18

      Imagine if Al Davis hadn't been feeling charitable that day. The Cowboys dynasty of the 90s might never have happened, and the Raiders would've had Tim Brown on one side of the field and Michael Irvin on the other.

    • @fortynights1513
      @fortynights1513 Рік тому +5

      We’d have had Tim Brown and Michael Irvin on one team. That’s a great duo.

  • @mikeobrien19
    @mikeobrien19 Рік тому +238

    I remember suggesting you making a video on the Herschel Walker trade. Even though as a Vikings fan this hurts to see I am happy that newer and younger fans understand the original "bad trade" granted even then Herschel going to the Vikings was considered a slam dunk at the time I would argue that even then I would have still called it a bad trade for the Vikings.

    • @winddmmy
      @winddmmy Рік тому +3

      it the viking being the jets

    • @jaylucien669
      @jaylucien669 Рік тому +2

      "Bad trade?" Not from our perspective. 😎

    • @FelipeYoshioCordeirodeSouza
      @FelipeYoshioCordeirodeSouza Рік тому +1

      The LoF was the perfect appetizer

    • @jroggs85
      @jroggs85 Рік тому +2

      It was always a great trade for Dallas and I cannot even begin to comprehend how anyone could have not seen that at the time. (What's the point of keeping an individual maxed-out-value player on a team struggling to win ANY games at all?)
      As for Minnesota? Hindsight makes the trade look godawful, and there's no getting around the fact that they were sacrificing their future on a short term gamble. But it WAS a gamble with a chance of paying off in the form of championship contention for the next few seasons. I'd still call it a pretty bad trade as throwing away your future development for a temporary shot in the arm - especially on a single player in a sport with dozens of players per team - is a guaranteed eventual loss with a chancy upside, but evaluating the trade in the context of when it was made, it wasn't QUITE as stupid as its present day reputation would have you believe.

    • @AlonsoRules
      @AlonsoRules Рік тому +2

      The Cowboys were awful and gave up their best player. That's how it would have been seen at the time. Teams did not take the draft seriously at the time. Jerry Jones was the first to do so and it paid dividends.

  • @RuZe_Tynuch02
    @RuZe_Tynuch02 Рік тому +358

    And that’s how the 90’s Cowboys Dynasty happened Thanks to the Minnesota Vikings. 👍🏻🤦🏼‍♂️

    • @kendall4245
      @kendall4245 Рік тому +52

      Freaking purple incarnation of satan

    • @newname9064
      @newname9064 Рік тому +3

      Yep

    • @UHOH_415
      @UHOH_415 Рік тому +11

      @@kendall4245I understood that reference

    • @Kaiden-9226
      @Kaiden-9226 Рік тому +13

      But the cowboys will have to watch vhs taps to relive it again

    • @jollygrapefruit786
      @jollygrapefruit786 Рік тому +2

      They should really just sell the entire franchise it's such a joke

  • @MrWaifuTaker
    @MrWaifuTaker Рік тому +170

    You should do more historical videos like this, the Vikings can't seem to catch a break at all.

    • @fortynights1513
      @fortynights1513 Рік тому +20

      As I like to call them: The most accomplished team with no actual titles.

    • @schwanbox
      @schwanbox Рік тому +15

      ​@FortyNights we actually are.we have the highest win percentage of teams without a super bowl and we even have a win percentage higher than a few super bowl winners

    • @fortynights1513
      @fortynights1513 Рік тому +8

      @@schwanbox I did an NFL historical analysis to try and find what teams were the best in each regular season statistically.
      The Vikings came out on top four times (1969, 1970, 1988, and 1998).

    • @mitchellb4551
      @mitchellb4551 Рік тому +2

      yea they are always great! they tend to up tick during the summer without the NFL eating all his time so stay tuned

    • @FelipeYoshioCordeirodeSouza
      @FelipeYoshioCordeirodeSouza Рік тому +1

      Maybe the story of Warren Moon?

  • @aceslater5265
    @aceslater5265 Рік тому +5

    The Jerry Burns clip at the end was the perfect cherry on top.

    • @LSTNSCRFN
      @LSTNSCRFN 3 місяці тому +1

      Even as a Packers fan I respect Uncle Burnsie. RIP

  • @leevilduck
    @leevilduck Рік тому +50

    You know it's gonna be fun when Tree pulls up with a nice story time

  • @SkolneyVikings
    @SkolneyVikings Рік тому +44

    Even if Walker lived up to the deal, the Vikings still weren't getting past the 49ers, or the other NFC powers of that era.
    Part of the reason the Vikings rebounded fairly quickly by '92 was because they did find a really good running back: Terry Allen

    • @Tyrunner0097
      @Tyrunner0097 11 місяців тому +1

      Who ended up going to Washington. MN didn't get a real running back until Robert Smith.

  • @mudman619
    @mudman619 Рік тому +27

    I remember all that well. It was a big trade at the time, kinda like the Ricky Williams trade later on. Tree is correct: if the Vikings had won a Super Bowl, we all would've seen this differently. That's the things with big trades, you don't really know until later on if they were busts. You can't blame the Vikings for taking a swing - bc you never know. Same with the Niners trading up for Lance. These NFL teams are under a lot of pressure to win - so they have to take swings. Sometimes they hit a home run, sometimes they strike out, but they will always stand in the box ready to swing. Same with this current Bears-Panthers trade. Who really knows if that was a "fleecing." This time last season, everyone was saying the Broncos fleeced the Seahawks - how did that turn out? lol.

    • @aceassn716
      @aceassn716 Рік тому +3

      Along with Stafford Goff trade sure eff those picks, they did win a title
      But look at how it worked out

    • @budwyzer77
      @budwyzer77 Рік тому +4

      @@aceassn716 The best thing about trading with the Lions is knowing they won't embarrass you by winning the Super Bowl with your picks and players.

  • @Uncultured_Barbarian465
    @Uncultured_Barbarian465 Рік тому +44

    Of course Walker had to run all over the Packers that first game. I had Vikings fans rubbing it in my face, and they were crowing about how they were going to go to the Super Bowl. How quickly that all changed ... And I loved Jerry Burns' post game press conferences. I'm not sure, but I think the rant you showed at the end of the video was the one where he said something like, "One of the best O Coordinators in the league, and they put his picture up on the big screen, and you fuckers boo him!" A local radio station erven came up with a bit, Coach Uncle Burnsy's Fairy Tales, where someone did an impression of Jerry Burns telling fairy tales to kids, and they had to bleep out all the profanity. Ah, fun times.

    • @tomschloesser4787
      @tomschloesser4787 Рік тому +4

      You're right about the Fairy tales. It was Jeff Passolt who, at the time, was a sports broadcaster for Twin Cities local TV affiliate, KARE channel 11. He was a frequent guest on 92.5 KQRS Morning Show radio with host Tom Bernard. Passolt did a great impression of Burnsie. It was 30 years ago and I can still recite it word for word. It was called, "Burnsie's Bedtime Stories."

    • @Uncultured_Barbarian465
      @Uncultured_Barbarian465 Рік тому +4

      @@tomschloesser4787 They also did a bit for Jerry Burns: Live at the Guthrie. One of the lines was, "Romeo, Romeo ... Where the fuck are you?" Man, I loved classic KQ 92. They also did the "Dennis Green Rhythm And Rap Up" that could be fun at times.

    • @Tyrunner0097
      @Tyrunner0097 Рік тому +2

      Some things never change with Vikings fans. They sure talk a lot for a fanbase that's won NOTHING. Heck, even Bears fans have 1985 to gloat about (granted that's ALL they talk about, but Brewers fans still can't stop talking about 1982, so all's fair.)

  • @MrSchimpf
    @MrSchimpf Рік тому +28

    I love Tree's videos for their detail and his passion, but can we also give it to him for his period-appropriate backing music choices? My god, I get chills listening to these old production songs that were deep 80s and 90s cuts you just heard everywhere. Love that last one especially!

  • @smokieinthepot489
    @smokieinthepot489 Рік тому +8

    What's crazy to me is the micro management here it's on point that's a lot harder then people would think it to be all those extra picks after the trade.

  • @ethanfarrell8080
    @ethanfarrell8080 Рік тому +31

    Would love to see more videos like this about some of the most iconic trades in sports history. (As a hockey fan the Gretzky, Roy and Lindros trades (could be part of a Flyers legacy of failure video) come to mind) love the historical videos!

    • @Rockhound6165
      @Rockhound6165 Рік тому +3

      Flyers can't be a legacy of failure as they have 2 Stanley Cups and were the first of the '67 expansion to do so(no other of that expansion won until the Penguins did it in 1991). But I often wonder if the Flyers handled the early 90's drafts differently. In 1990 if they drafted Jagr instead of Ricci then draft Forsberg in 1991 like they did and never made the trade. Imagine a Forsberg/Jagr/LeClair line(if they still make that trade).

    • @ethanfarrell8080
      @ethanfarrell8080 Рік тому +1

      @@Rockhound6165 yes that is a good point. The entire landscape of the nhl in the 90s could have been so different.
      That is very true regarding the flyers 2 cups. I was thinking of the video he made about the maple leafs as reference (they have won 13). But the moniker of failure applies much more to them then the flyers.
      Unfortunately, if any nhl team is suited for a legacy of failure video it would be my Canucks

    • @Rockhound6165
      @Rockhound6165 Рік тому +2

      @@ethanfarrell8080 Canucks, Coyotes, Sabers

    • @ethanfarrell8080
      @ethanfarrell8080 Рік тому +1

      @@Rockhound6165 excellent point. I think those are the teams with the most interesting stories when it comes to failing (the sharks as well)

    • @Rockhound6165
      @Rockhound6165 Рік тому +2

      @@ethanfarrell8080 the Sabers haven't been in the playoffs since 2011. That's amazing. Even the Coyotes have made the playoffs in that time.

  • @fortynights1513
    @fortynights1513 Рік тому +96

    Fun fact for you: In his last year in Dallas in 1988, Herschel Walker received an MVP vote while playing for a last place team.
    Something that wouldn’t happen again until Justin Fields this past season.
    The 1988 Vikings before trading for Walker were actually a pretty darn good team.
    In particular their pass defense which allowed the lowest passer rating of the 1980’s, and 25 points less than the average of their opponents.
    But Herschel Walker wasn’t worth the draft picks they gave Dallas, and while a better running game is useful (and if you look at the running backs they had in 88, they were pretty good for touchdowns but not efficient), it wouldn’t take the team to the next level like they thought it could.
    Looking at Minnesota in the first half of the 90’s in particular, they probably could have used those picks, and it’s definitely a terrible trade, and one of the worst in NFL history for what the other team ended up getting.

    • @FelipeYoshioCordeirodeSouza
      @FelipeYoshioCordeirodeSouza Рік тому

      Oh, two RBs

    • @fortynights1513
      @fortynights1513 Рік тому +1

      Walker, and while Fields is a qB, he does run a good bit

    • @aceassn716
      @aceassn716 Рік тому +3

      Justin Fields had suspect blocking and had no choice but to run

    • @fortynights1513
      @fortynights1513 Рік тому +1

      @@aceassn716 What position should Chicago take with their first pick in your opinion?

  • @MKISports
    @MKISports Рік тому +10

    That's a surprising video for UTree.
    More of this one, brother!

  • @frozennorth3426
    @frozennorth3426 Рік тому +7

    Tree, Thanks for including the legendary Jerry Burns presser at the end :)

    • @fortynights1513
      @fortynights1513 Рік тому +1

      Ah yes, Jerry Burns says like 15 f bombs in one press conference defending his coordinator.

    • @marioaustin9312
      @marioaustin9312 Рік тому

      Jerry wouldn't survive today's sports media

  • @mikeclark7026
    @mikeclark7026 Рік тому +3

    Oh, I’ve been waiting for this one FOREVER

  • @fergizzo
    @fergizzo Рік тому +1

    I love that jerry burns rant at the end

  • @fredaaron762
    @fredaaron762 Рік тому +11

    Actually, I won the Herschel Walker trade. I worked with a group of Buffalo Bills fans in the mid-90s who all went to University of Buffalo. They invited me to their Super Bowl XXVIII Party. Since I was the only non-Bills fan, I was happen to take everyone's bets. I walked out with a stack of cash. Needless to say, when the Bills and Cowboys met in a rematch in Super Bowl XXIX, I was not invited back to the party.

    • @aceassn716
      @aceassn716 Рік тому

      Nice but it was XXVII&XXVIII
      Dallas fan haha

  • @austinfletchermusic
    @austinfletchermusic Рік тому +12

    Seeing this as a younghead is very weird, especially I'm from Georgia, where Herschel has ... shall we say, other history.
    But this is a fascinating watch once again.

    • @aceroy9195
      @aceroy9195 Рік тому +1

      Nah, you're just young. He's still a football legend. I know people on both sides of the political aisle talk about how much they enjoyed watching him play at UGA.
      Secondly, fuck the NFL dude was diagnosed with a concussion following the domestic violence episodes in the aughts. He was another victim of the NFL machine and their attempt to cover up concussions to keep players playing.
      As for his decision to go into politics. Well, there I have no idea. He isn't the most politically savvy nor is the most firebrand. He's really just super milquetoast. He would have never stood a chance at winning if his opponent was a real politician. But nowadays, you're more likely to find grifters and celebrities as politicians than actual political persons.

    • @austinfletchermusic
      @austinfletchermusic Рік тому

      @aceroy9195 Oh, I don't doubt his football prowess. Nor do I have high praise for the NFL's injury protocol.
      Just as an electoral politics nerd, I can't help but wonder if a different trade might have prevented this outcome for him somehow.

    • @aceroy9195
      @aceroy9195 Рік тому

      @Austin Fletcher I doubt it, in all honesty if he was going against a real politician. His senate run would look like an even bigger joke.
      And by "real" politician I mean anyone who had a stint in local or state politics. Osoff and Warnock winning is a lot more of an outlier considering their previous failed attempts.

    • @austinfletchermusic
      @austinfletchermusic Рік тому +2

      @aceroy9195 Georgia is just a weird state politically right now to be honest.
      Sports, though, you can expect one thing from us, and we know what it is.

  • @kangarooswild
    @kangarooswild Рік тому +8

    the sheer brilliance by the Cowboys once Jimmy Johnson took over as de facto GM and the rest was history🏆

  • @bigj1905
    @bigj1905 4 місяці тому +3

    “It’s a trade that can’t be properly assessed for years.”
    *Literally* *a* *few* *months* *later*
    “This has been one of the worst trade deals in the history of trade deals, maybe ever.”

  • @davidbuswa9425
    @davidbuswa9425 Рік тому +4

    I remember that trade well as a Cowboy fan. But I had faith in Jimmy Johnson to pick good college players from those drafts picks that the Dallas had accumulated because he had recently coached in College and knew who were the best college players were. Jimmy was the sole reason for the Cowboys' dynasty in the 90's, It was definitely not jerry Jones

  • @dodostramus8767
    @dodostramus8767 Рік тому +17

    I think the Tunsil trade has the potential to be the modern day version of this trade. Depends on if the team can capitalize but man the Dolphins have capitalized on that trade

    • @ligmaemperor7064
      @ligmaemperor7064 Рік тому +7

      Ehhhhhhh it's debatable. Sure the Texans gave up a ton of picks and cap space but Tunsil hasn't disappointed in the slightest. He's arguably the best tackle in the entire league now and will undoubtedly be a cornerstone of the Texans franchise for years to come...that is, if they don't flip him to a desperate team for even more picks.

    • @kenjiii728
      @kenjiii728 Рік тому

      The only way this could work is if the Dolphins win the super bowl

    • @FigureFarter
      @FigureFarter Рік тому

      @@kenjiii728 Well HOPEFULLY at least

    • @davidkuhlman8004
      @davidkuhlman8004 Рік тому

      Saints trade by far

    • @FelipeYoshioCordeirodeSouza
      @FelipeYoshioCordeirodeSouza 11 місяців тому

      You mean turning him into Joe Thomas?

  • @lizd.8655
    @lizd.8655 Рік тому +5

    Fun fact: $140 million in 1989 is worth almost $340 million today. I was 10 when Herschel was traded and I fondly remember those golden years. Say what you will, I was raised as a Dallas fan and I will die as one!

  • @frozennorth3426
    @frozennorth3426 Рік тому +5

    the moment Jimmy Johnson invented the modern “tank” by executing what will forever be the unbeatably best version of it, with The Trade
    the Vikings were sooooo stupid to sign that contract, and I say this as a Vikings fan
    you can’t behold it and not find it beautiful

    • @jaylucien669
      @jaylucien669 Рік тому

      Respect. I know that's not an easy thing to say. It sure wouldn't be for me if the roles were reversed.

    • @kurtpunchesthings2411
      @kurtpunchesthings2411 Рік тому

      I mean yea hindsight is a bitch there's an alternative universe where the Cowboys did jack with those trades and the Vikings end up beating the Falcons in that NFC Championship Game and went on to beat the Broncos in that superbowl

    • @jaylucien669
      @jaylucien669 Рік тому

      @@kurtpunchesthings2411 There's also an alternate universe where the Cowboys go undefeated and win the Super Bowl every year.

  • @fabriziolorenzo2392
    @fabriziolorenzo2392 Рік тому +2

    Tree’s historical videos are ELITE

  • @rjakobi
    @rjakobi Рік тому +2

    This is indeed a juicy video. I remember getting Hershel Walker's autograph at NAS Pearl Harbor when he came down for the Pro Bowl in 1989. Still have it after all of those years. Mom was a Texan and was heartbroken when Landry was fired, but once Dallas started getting the dynasty, she got over it.

  • @SouthernSkeptic
    @SouthernSkeptic Рік тому +20

    The thing about this trade is a couple years later the Vikings hired Denny Green as head coach and gm. And the 90s went pretty decent for them. Imagine if Green had all those picks at the beginning of his tenure. They made the playoffs more often than not in the decade including the 98 team that should've won the SB.

    • @fortynights1513
      @fortynights1513 Рік тому +2

      Who knows?
      I wouldn’t be surprised if they improved.
      However, the question becomes if they are too good to have the pick they did in the late teens that became Randy Moss? And if so, does another team take him before they could.
      As for the 98 team, they were very good, but probably could have used a better run defense.

    • @jaylucien669
      @jaylucien669 Рік тому +1

      Yes, and Green's Vikings dominated the Cowboys in the late 90's.

    • @SouthernSkeptic
      @SouthernSkeptic Рік тому

      @@fortynights1513 They still had a pretty late pick when they got Moss anyways. I think he was 21 or 22? Remember he fell because he got caught smoking weed and being a dick to people.

    • @SouthernSkeptic
      @SouthernSkeptic Рік тому +2

      @@jaylucien669 When they thew 5 yard passes to Cris Carter because Prime Time couldn't tackle and CC would just run him over for 5 more yards. lol

    • @johnchedsey1306
      @johnchedsey1306 Рік тому +2

      The thing that still pisses me off about the 98 team is that the NFL was robbed of potentially an all time great Superbowl between Denver and Minnesota. They were clearly both incredible teams. Atlanta pooped all over the field and gave us a dud instead.

  • @Chimidway88
    @Chimidway88 Рік тому +8

    I never knew the Browns were the original team Dallas wanted to trade Walker to. Great video Tree!!!

  • @gjenglund
    @gjenglund Рік тому +1

    Love the include of the Jerry Burns rant. It's a classic that doesn't get played enough.

  • @Bassman1985
    @Bassman1985 Рік тому +2

    Issiac Holt actually moved in right across the street from me in Plano in the summer of 1990. He gave me a ball signed by the entire 1991 team. It sits proudly in a glass case atop the bookcase in my living room to this day.

  • @doubledown0411
    @doubledown0411 Рік тому +6

    If you haven't read it, I highly recommend the Jeff Perlman book about the 90s Cowboys "Boys will be Boys." It covers this in great detail and all the other crazy shit around the Cowboys. It's amazing.

    • @budwyzer77
      @budwyzer77 Рік тому

      Wait is this the book with the Charles Haley chapter titled "The Last Naked Warrior"? Dude was an absolute madman.
      Seriously, who jerks off during team meetings and cuts holes in the roofs of teammates cars so he can pee into them?

  • @mattyice9535
    @mattyice9535 Рік тому +2

    My father still gets a look of utter despair and almost disbelief when The Trade comes up. He grew up a Vikings fan. To quote my dad, "They didn't even run an I-Back offense!!!!" I don't think he'll ever really get over it.

  • @seanragsdale5636
    @seanragsdale5636 Рік тому +5

    We need more of these vids. Maybe do deeper dives into every single bad Leafs trade? I know a bunch of them were touched on in that legacy of failure vid but who doesn’t like giving the Leafs grief?

    • @aceassn716
      @aceassn716 Рік тому +2

      As someone from Buffalo NY yes do that

    • @FelipeYoshioCordeirodeSouza
      @FelipeYoshioCordeirodeSouza 11 місяців тому +1

      Dude, it would be double the time of the Half-Century of Failure vid

  • @donaldschumaker
    @donaldschumaker 4 місяці тому

    Best summary of "The Trade" I've seen to date Tree. BTW I had forgotten that he ended up in Philly. Thanks for the great video.

  • @jacobgarnham5971
    @jacobgarnham5971 Рік тому +1

    Damn you make football history compelling. Keep it up, big fan from Australia.

  • @B.Launders
    @B.Launders Рік тому +3

    This can be a neat mini series like “The Greatest Game.” There’s plenty of deals in the NHL like this that can be examined in a similar style.

    • @aceassn716
      @aceassn716 Рік тому

      Wayne Gretzky trade
      Eric Lindross trade that still causing effects 30yrs later

  • @jasonblessing2951
    @jasonblessing2951 Рік тому +3

    Mr. Tree! It's time! You must review your 2018 draft video and give your thoughts on those players now!

  • @fan.of.feet2310
    @fan.of.feet2310 Рік тому +3

    5:24 HOW DO YOU DROP THAT PASS!?!?!?!?

  • @daddyb1100
    @daddyb1100 Рік тому

    The fact you out Jet Force Gemini music in the background?I absolutely love it!!

  • @Coyotek4
    @Coyotek4 Рік тому +1

    The end of this video makes me yearn for a series of videos that are nothing but coach tirades. I never even know of the one in this video!

  • @Seanpatf66
    @Seanpatf66 Рік тому +3

    The 1990 pick they got from Minnesota was traded up to get Emmit Smith.

  • @Prussiankings
    @Prussiankings Рік тому +2

    Seeing Tree talk about the Bears: Nice
    Realizing it’s a cautionary tale: Uh oh

  • @matrat911
    @matrat911 Рік тому +3

    Love the Jerry Burns tirade! One of the best coach tirades ever! Try to find the whole thing uncensored, it’s some of the best entertainment you will have the pleasure of watching.

  • @nickdageek3083
    @nickdageek3083 Рік тому

    Tree, I was finally happy this off-season as a Vikings fan, you didn't have to upload this.

  • @Tyrunner0097
    @Tyrunner0097 4 місяці тому

    What helped make Jimmy Johnson such a great scout and drafter was that he selected many players he either directly coached or coached against when he was at Miami. He had a great memory of college players he knew would work in Dallas:
    Troy Aikman played at Oklahoma before transferring to UCLA.
    Emmitt Smith played at Florida
    Russell Maryland played for Jimmy at Miami
    Alvin Harper from Tennesee

  • @austinreed5805
    @austinreed5805 Рік тому +4

    The power of The Trade is boundless.

  • @TheLoneGamr
    @TheLoneGamr Рік тому +8

    Best case scenario with the Panthers trading up and the Bears sticking with Fields is it both works out for them. Panthers get a franchise QB and the Bears get to add some offensive pieces for Fields and hopefully some big dudes to protect him for more that 3 seconds.

    • @fortynights1513
      @fortynights1513 Рік тому

      Bears probably thought that whoever they would take wouldn’t be worth a first overall pick, and that it would be better to trade down and take a first rounder a few spots lower.
      In particular because they already have a young quarterback.

    • @musclecarenjoyer
      @musclecarenjoyer Рік тому +1

      @@fortynights1513 jalen carter is looking horrific right now after showing up over weight and underperforming reminds me of Albert haynesworth and his work ethic let’s hope I’m wrong but he looks like he doesn’t have that dog in him the passion for greatness but I wouldn’t complain if he fell to us at 9 😅

    • @aceassn716
      @aceassn716 Рік тому

      Sadly Fields had about 2seconds before there were 2 rushers in his face, he had to run for his life
      Very similar to what josh allen had to do to survive his first 2seasons

  • @darknightmike10yearsago
    @darknightmike10yearsago Рік тому

    5:30 Jet Force Gemini! Oh man, I miss this game. What an epic soundtrack.

  • @donphilp7511
    @donphilp7511 Рік тому

    Your stuff continues to be fantastic please keep it up

  • @joshuaremo922
    @joshuaremo922 Рік тому +10

    And on 2022 the Minnesota Timberwolves traded 5 1st round picks for Rudy Gobert from the Utah Jazz. If the Jazz become a dynasty in the future you know who to blame.

    • @michaelhession2105
      @michaelhession2105 Рік тому +1

      Plus the GM that pulled it off also pulled of the Pierce/Garnett Trade

    • @allthingsgaming6
      @allthingsgaming6 Рік тому +1

      (While knowing absolutely no context for the trade or the NBA in general)
      Wouldn’t being “one player away” be MUCH more common in basketball where there’s only 5 guys on the court at any given time?
      Of course, 5 first round picks is an insane price to pay in any sport…

    • @joshuaremo922
      @joshuaremo922 Рік тому

      @@allthingsgaming6 NBA is infamous for horrible lopsided trades. Getting a pick wrong or trading it away stings even harder compared to the NFL. It’s easier to replace players in the NFL.
      The 80s Cavs were infamous for this. They traded most of their picks and were so inept that the NBA passed rules so they couldn’t ruin themselves again. Players they could’ve drafted with those picks were HoF like James Worthy, Dominique Wilkins, Charles Barkley, John Stockton, Karl Malone, and many more

    • @fortynights1513
      @fortynights1513 Рік тому

      @@joshuaremo922 Imagine how many picks some players would go for if the Stepien rule didn’t exist.

  • @saj8
    @saj8 Рік тому +3

    Jerry Jones had to pay two years of Landry's three year contract in order to give him the boot, which was the deal that was done under Schramm. Schramm, himself, was instructed under Bum Bright to give Landry three one year contracts, but Schramm disregarded Bright.

    • @jaylucien669
      @jaylucien669 Рік тому +1

      And in return for the blatant disrespect, Bright took the low-ball offer from the hillbilly oil-tycoon, who assured him he'd fire both men after taking over ownership of the team. Which, of course he did.

  • @YesManVegasBaybay
    @YesManVegasBaybay Рік тому +1

    I’ve been waiting for this one.

  • @nanya524
    @nanya524 Рік тому +2

    The Broncos trade was a fleece
    For the Seahawks.
    I said it at the time. I was like "oh look, Herschell Walker 2.0"

    • @fortynights1513
      @fortynights1513 Рік тому

      Seahawks absolutely won that trade.
      But I wouldn’t argue it’s quite as bad in one sense. At least you can say Denver traded for someone who played quarterback.
      Obviously the league was different in the 80’s, but one running back used in tandem probably won’t help you win as much as a quarterback could.

    • @aceassn716
      @aceassn716 Рік тому

      Well they would have to win 3titles in 4years then??
      Because that ended up as the outcome due to the trade

  • @Eibarwoman
    @Eibarwoman Рік тому +3

    Now that it's rumored Stafford's body might be unable to continue, it was one Super Bowl, a half of an injured season... and hope the Lions don't pick right.

  • @jacobmaher1149
    @jacobmaher1149 Рік тому

    Never thought this would be a video but love it tree

  • @johnenigma8506
    @johnenigma8506 Рік тому +6

    2:48 "It's always sad when the game passes one by"
    As a Patriots fan, I believe I'm starting to see that with Bill Belicheck now. I wouldn't be surprised if he ends up being an albatross on that team in the near future.

    • @garak55
      @garak55 Рік тому +2

      The guy is a football genius but not in the same way most other great coaches are; he was simultaneously the best head coach and the best general manager in the league for the best part of two decades. Honestly, it's ridiculous what he could achieve all the while surrounding himself with generally less than stellar coordinators (though his position coaches have consistently been top notch over the years).
      I sincerely believe he can make a comeback. His teams in the past few years have been fighting for play off spots deep in the season even though they lost arguably the best qb ever (dollar for dollar, it's not even close) and are in the same division as Buffalo. I think New England is really not so far away from becoming a fixture of the post season again.
      I wouldn't bet on a superbowl win because that's just not happening unless you have a generational talent at qb anymore and that's basically the luck of the draw in the draft, but I don't think Bill is finished.

    • @fortynights1513
      @fortynights1513 Рік тому

      @@garak55 I'm not sure what he should be considered better at: Being a head coach, or being a GM? Obviously great at both, but still.

    • @garak55
      @garak55 Рік тому

      ​@@fortynights1513 For me it's because he's such a legendary gm that he can coach so good. I think out of every coach in the league he is the one who understands his own roster more than anyone. He knows precisely what his team can do and he doesn't tie his ego to a specific playstyle or tactics. He never tries to fit a square peg in a round hole. Once or twice a season, he does something crazy like that time in the play offs where he decided to run iso out of I-formation with cordarell paterson running behind a fullback. I think any other coach would have tried to keep to the normal play book in spite of injuries not allowing it and they would have lost, his patriots went to the afc championship like this it was amazing. I think it was last season when he just decided to not throw the ball when playing buffalo under a rainstorm. Won that game also just playing Navy offense.
      He understands what his teams can do and can't do and he will always gameplan around what they can do instead of forcing them into his system. Honestly as a x&o's nerd, it's awesome to watch.

    • @penguinsfan251
      @penguinsfan251 Рік тому

      Bill Belicik was no genius when he coached the Cleveland Browns. One winning season in five years and one playoff win.
      The "genius" came about because of Tom Brady. It also helped that the Patriots' division opponents were pathetic for almost all of the time Brady was there. Belicik beat the Mike Tomlin coached Steelers like a drum.
      He does not have Brady anymore and there are no Bradys on the horizon.

  • @nathaniellevesque2782
    @nathaniellevesque2782 Рік тому +4

    You should do videos on the Wayne Gretzky and Eric Lindross trades

  • @DoktorStrangelove
    @DoktorStrangelove Рік тому +1

    That coda with Jerry Burns is an all-time great presser meltdown. Just use th F-bomb as a comma, Jerry.

  • @manzac112
    @manzac112 Рік тому +7

    Why?...... Why must you bring one of the most haunting of my favorite team's history? Cheering for this franchise eternal cold day in hell, but I'll still keep supporting them. I know, a Vikings fan in Houston is a weird situation.

    • @XemnasO01X
      @XemnasO01X Рік тому

      Not as bad as a Cowboy's fan in Wisconsin.

    • @u4yk
      @u4yk Рік тому

      Sounds like my ex-wife when we were married.

    • @allthingsgaming6
      @allthingsgaming6 Рік тому +2

      @@XemnasO01X Not as bad as a Cowboys fan from literally anywhere who was born after the Jimmy Johnson era and has an unearned arrogance

    • @XemnasO01X
      @XemnasO01X Рік тому +1

      @@allthingsgaming6 oh I know that we're mediocre. Until some changes happen, we ain't getting anywhere unless luck swings our way, pissed away two good season imo. I'll still back my 'Boys Winning or losing, just wish the losing wasn't in the divisional round.

  • @mattstakeontheancients7594
    @mattstakeontheancients7594 Рік тому +2

    As a Cowboys fan, I love Hershel but him getting traded was the best thing that happened to us. If a certain owner wouldn’t have wanted to be the man we might could have won more SBs with Jimmy at the helm.

    • @EnanoPancracio
      @EnanoPancracio Рік тому

      There's a very good chance they get the 1 seed and face the 9ers at home, and if they beat the 9ers they certainly become the first team with 3 straight SB wins. Maybe even 4

    • @FelipeYoshioCordeirodeSouza
      @FelipeYoshioCordeirodeSouza 11 місяців тому

      Jimmy didn't do well elsewhere, just like Jerry couldn't hire a proper replacement

    • @mattstakeontheancients7594
      @mattstakeontheancients7594 11 місяців тому

      @@FelipeYoshioCordeirodeSouza just 2 larger than life personalities/egos. Would have loved a few more years together but happy they seem to be on good terms now.

  • @mastertroll1780
    @mastertroll1780 Рік тому

    Love these m8 :D

  • @raineob4996
    @raineob4996 Рік тому

    Love this deep dive! Would love to see similar features on, say, the Wayne Gretzky trade or the Ricky Williams trade or something.

  • @pyschob61
    @pyschob61 Рік тому

    Great video as always tree, that russel wilson drive by at the end wasn’t necessary but good video😂

  • @tersecleric2
    @tersecleric2 Рік тому +1

    Good vid tree!

  • @sirfallsalot2000
    @sirfallsalot2000 Рік тому +2

    I’m assuming the Virginia congratulations video is on the way

  • @Damian_1989
    @Damian_1989 Рік тому

    5:30 of all thje nostalgia-heavy music you use, i was NOT expecting Jet Force Gemini

  • @exzidan
    @exzidan Рік тому +4

    The trade of all time

  • @coolmatthew213
    @coolmatthew213 Рік тому

    This has to be a series

  • @JaredGoofball
    @JaredGoofball Рік тому +3

    In 20 years, Tree will upload a video called “The Trade: Russell Wilson to the Broncos”
    But it might not be about the Broncos if Sean Payton can fix him

  • @0rionknight636
    @0rionknight636 Рік тому

    Blessings for the upload, love u tree

  • @u4yk
    @u4yk Рік тому +2

    Now do the Saints in 1999 and the Bears in 2017.

  • @dumpstercracklin7078
    @dumpstercracklin7078 Рік тому +8

    Only time will tell who fleeced who. The Panthers haven't had stability at QB since Newton was let go. I think it was a good move......I don't get why they had to throw D.J.Moore in with all those high picks tho

    • @bigbearkat2010
      @bigbearkat2010 Рік тому +4

      Plus the Bears could still find a way to screw this up. Their scouting still has to come through and the McCaskeys are still going to have to decide if they want to pay up on the guys that do pan out

    • @allthingsgaming6
      @allthingsgaming6 Рік тому +2

      If it wasn’t DJ Moore it would have been ANOTHER first round pick

    • @dumpstercracklin7078
      @dumpstercracklin7078 Рік тому

      @@allthingsgaming6 If excluding Moore would potentially cost another 1st that would be way too much.

  • @trainguy7276
    @trainguy7276 Рік тому +1

    You missed the best part of that Jerry Burns tirade:
    Reporter: Did you guys win today?
    Burns: I think we did, yeah.

  • @connordelaney5863
    @connordelaney5863 Рік тому +5

    My dad is an Eagles fan, ruined his 1990’s. Especially since he works with Cowboys fans

    • @caiuscosades6423
      @caiuscosades6423 Рік тому +1

      Guess who is laughing now?

    • @XemnasO01X
      @XemnasO01X Рік тому +1

      @@caiuscosades6423 Cowboys's fan. 8 Super Bowl Apperances, 5 rings, two of them back to back, and being at least in the playoffs 35 TIMES in 62 years. The Eagels have appeared in the playoffs 29 times in 89 seasons, gone to the super bowl 4 times and won once. Having lost to the best AFC team and their supposedly GOAT player twice. I can't wait for you guys to beat Mahomes...in 2039.

    • @caiuscosades6423
      @caiuscosades6423 Рік тому

      @@XemnasO01X Talk all that shit once they reach the conference championship. Or a Superbowl without an unlimited salary cap.
      Oh wait you guys have Mike McCarthy as Head coach and Kirk Cousins as QB. They ain't going to damn Superbowl
      The Niners have a better chance of seeing that 6th ring with a 7th round QB than with your core

    • @jaylucien669
      @jaylucien669 Рік тому

      Huh, it totally made my 90's.

    • @XemnasO01X
      @XemnasO01X Рік тому

      @@caiuscosades6423 Yeah you're probably right. We ain't doing much to get past the divisional round and you can cling to that all you want. However, the rest of the NFC East will still hold things over the Eagles that we all have done; Gone to the big game and won it more than lost it, had several hall of famers that actually won rings, and have constantly made the AFC(The Bills in particular) our B**** versus the eagles who have fans that boo Santa Claus, their team the moment they are doing poorly, and cry in the rain about being robbed by the GOAT in the Superbowl. Wake me when you the Super Bowl ring count in the NFC East looks like this:
      Cowboys:5
      Giants:4
      Commanders:3
      Eagles:2

  • @theman1412
    @theman1412 Рік тому

    Nice research

  • @MazeDaGr8
    @MazeDaGr8 Рік тому +2

    Once this trade happened
    Cowboys you get: Great Players, 3 Superbowl in 4 years & a Dynasty
    &
    Vikings: You Get NOTHINGG! YOU LOSEE!!! GOOD.. DAY SIR!!!!

  • @belacickekl7579
    @belacickekl7579 Рік тому

    I love the SimCity 3000 soundtrack at 9:20!

  • @jovar.3649
    @jovar.3649 Рік тому +2

    And people have the nerve to say that my niners trading for CMC was the modern equivalent of this trade

  • @johnlewis8934
    @johnlewis8934 Рік тому

    Love these football history videos tree

  • @linsithebe7080
    @linsithebe7080 Рік тому

    its fascinating to learn more business negations via here than compared to my university.

  • @senseofjustice0218
    @senseofjustice0218 Рік тому +4

    Really enjoyed this video. Always thought the Herschel Walker trade was a fascinating one, and your analysis was extremely thorough on both teams before and after the trade.
    If I could suggest a similar idea for a video, I would love to see you analyze the trade of Eric Lindros from Quebec to Philadelphia. There was lots of stuff to unpack on that trade, and it changed the trajectory of Quebec from pushover to dynasty.

    • @aceassn716
      @aceassn716 Рік тому

      30years lster that trade still has an impact on teams

    • @Yeen125
      @Yeen125 Рік тому

      At the same time, Lindros refusing to play for Quebec would be a major catalyst for the team moving to Denver a few years later.

    • @FelipeYoshioCordeirodeSouza
      @FelipeYoshioCordeirodeSouza 11 місяців тому

      Even refusing to play for the Leafs only to go there 15 years later

  • @hughjaass3787
    @hughjaass3787 Рік тому

    Gr8 video. As usual. You however, did not mention one of HSs best player in school history at all. 1991 1st Rd. Pick, Alvin "Freaky Hop" Harper. WR Univ Tenn. He was 5 years ahead of me, but my Father was his HS Coach. Fun fact- He set a HS Record in the High Jump, jumping 7'2"!!! I was literally standing next to the Landing Pad. One of the most impressive human feats I've witnessed in my 52yrs on Earth. Anyhow, keep up the great vids.

  • @carolinekelman2403
    @carolinekelman2403 Рік тому +2

    Do the Ricky Williams trade next.

  • @ScambaiterX
    @ScambaiterX Рік тому +1

    Next one should definitely be about the Tunsil trade tree, Tree! :)

  • @ColbyePresents
    @ColbyePresents Рік тому

    *Nice touch with the Metroid Prime music :)*

  • @rowdycmoore
    @rowdycmoore Рік тому +2

    Craziest thing is this isn't even the only time a team from North Texas fleeced another team desperate to get a ring. Two words: Mark Teixeria.

  • @addisonclapp6903
    @addisonclapp6903 8 місяців тому +1

    aged like wine

  • @arachnofiend2859
    @arachnofiend2859 Рік тому +3

    Didn't know that the Cowboys actually deceived the Vikings into trading away those picks. Hell of a feint making it seem like you were trading for a bunch of backups and latching on the "conditional" draft picks you really want.

    • @jaylucien669
      @jaylucien669 Рік тому +4

      It's Lynn's fault for not seeing it coming and underestimating Jimmy Johnson's confidence and ability to build in the draft. Before that trade, the rest of the league looked at Jimmy and Jerry as nothing but two redneck jokes. Turns out they were only half right.

  • @marcus813
    @marcus813 Рік тому +1

    What I find funny about this is that Darrin Nelson didn't even wanna be a Viking when the Vikings drafted him and he refused to leave them for the Cowboys when the original trade went down. At least he got to return to his native California.

  • @seanny4296
    @seanny4296 Рік тому

    Nice use of Sim City 3000 music 👌

  • @fearless1024
    @fearless1024 Рік тому

    11:42 the best part about that Jerry Burns rant is it was after a Vikings *victory* over the Rams.

  • @Jon_the_Wizard
    @Jon_the_Wizard Рік тому +2

    Jimmy Johnston is probably why NFL teams still look to college coaches for potential coaches.

  • @Zieg_Games
    @Zieg_Games Рік тому +1

    More interesting trade to analyze, the Ditka trade for Ricky Williams