I just installed the medium head + ERM and the bike is super fun now. Throttle response is outstanding and the bike had a snappy + playful feel to it that makes me want to ride more. Definitely worth it for me.
When I first rode my 2024 TE300, I thought something was wrong with it. The bike ran exactly as you described (blubberly and sputtered). I had buyer's remorse until I purchased the TSP ERM. I uploaded the free map, and there is a night and day difference with how the bike runs. It's a different bike now. Keep the videos coming, it’s awesome to hear your perspective!
I’ve got a 24 TE300 and have the TSP ERM and head. I agree with everything you said about the stock configuration and how much better it is with the TSP tune and head. It’s now the best bike I’ve ever ridden.
24 TE250 rider .. ERM is a fantastic device and the TSP map is great along with their head dome insert. I found a lot of my crappy running stock bike symptoms came from terrible quality control and I encourage anyone with a new TBI to just go through checking your Cylinder deck height ( adjustable by selecting the correct thickness base gasket(s) and the mechanical adjustment for power valve height! both of mine were WAY off from the factory and I chased so much other stuff first before finding this. My power valve was over 1/8" too closed!! Correcting these two areas made a HUGE difference in the way the bike runs. The "mechanics" at most KTM dealers aren't even going to consider these two very important specs.. . I love my ERM and I've been able to super dial in the TSP map to run even better for my circumstances.. Shame on KTM !! They don't give one poop about quality control or even making good on their errors...
Hey Jared, this is John from NSR days. Just got the ERM and excited to try it. Thanks for your video. Let's go ride sometime! There's the Kilted Duck Poker Run at Walker on June 15th
Cool vid. luv to see your changes on the ERM.., every terrain and rider is different but maybe a vid on why and where the changes on the ERM would be cool, thanks
Thanks for the 24 te review! I have a 19 te250i. Planning on getting the new 300. And giving the 250 to my son. Great bikes! I’m also from Washington (Puyallup)
Good to know this. I've been watching videos of this bike wondering right away, wtf is wrong with the way it sounds at partial throttle. It sounded too lean to me but most people are saying it's too rich, stock? I dunno. But it sounded immediately noticeably weird.
2024 TE300 Pro rider. I could not disagree more with your statements about the stock maps for the bike, at least as far as the Pro version of the TBI goes. My bike runs like butter when I follow the warm up procedure in the book. She is awesome at low RPM, she will chug and chug and chug up the gnarliest climbs. When she is allowed to run she flies. Mid can be a little flat but no big deal. All of this low end cleanliness goes away if you don't let her warm up and use a decent "for injection" 2 stroke oil. If you run JASCO-FD injection ready oil she purrs. I run redline and always allow her to warm up properly. I also run an FE350 with a Vortex and full FMF system as well as it being fully uncorked, I know what a chug hound feels like and that TE300 TBI Pro as epic. All IMHO of course and based on the bikes I currently own and ride. For note, it doesn't matter what map I use, she runs perfectly, but like I said. I run Redline JASCO-FD oil so it's a race ready, for Injection 2 stroke oil. Hope this info helps, I know it seems a little contrary but I didn't want folks thinking that everyone that had these bikes had the same awful experience as it seems you may have. Maybe try some different 2/oil. Just a thought.
Glad you like it! They are definitely perfectly rideable stock. What other 300s have you owned that you’d compare it too? It is well-known that they are pretty rich down low, an opinion shared by a LOT of riders. Stock, it sounds like a Sherco with a too-fat pilot jet. They also get terrible fuel mileage, another indicator that they’re too rich. They’re also down 7hp compared to the TPI bikes.
Just ordered the full power kit. Medium comp head with erm device from TSP. Excited to try it. My 24 TE300 pro just runs, off. Blubbery in spots and simply doesn't rev out at all. Right when it should be getting its power band it signs off. So I'm hoping this solves it all
I’m rolling on a 23 TE300. I went with the TSP ERM and the medium compression head and all I can say is H@#Y SH#T!!! I downloaded the Jarvis map and installed it effortlessly. The difference in power delivery was absolutely astonishing! If you even remotely liked your bike before install, then you’re gonna love it after! Good luck
Went with the TSP ERM on my ‘24 300 Hardenduro. Night and day difference! Fuel consumption is down considerably. Might be able to get 60 miles out of a tank now.
Hello from the Pacific NorthWet! I feel like we’re in each others backyard! What tire are you running in this video? Seems to hook up everywhere. Your last video has me second guessing my faith for the 525/505 Shinkos. Now that I’m on a beta 200 I need to be more weight-minded in my choice of tires. Good content. Sub’d
I think in this vid I was running the Plews Tough One Extreme. I’ve run quite a few and I’m always trying new ones. It’s hard to beat the AT81EX or JX8 for outright grip around here. The VE33S is also a great do-everything tire. Any of those will be better and lighter than the Shinkos.
Mileage yesterday on a *hard* 20mi loop was 26.6 MPG. My TPI was low-30s in the same conditions. Combine this with a shit fuel pump design, and I’d say this is a huge miss on KTM’s part.
You guys do a lot of leg crawling riding, so I'd like to see more real world riding and explanation to see how the ERM and tunes would be better for operation. FYI when the "blubbery" sound comes on at low RPM, the bike is still running smooth. And even when listening to a carb bike, like a Beta or Sherco, down low they are blubber too. That sound is when the power valve closing off. On the TBI the blubber noise is more of the way the second injector comes on and off. Not saying the ERM and tuning isn't nice, but just sayin it would be helpful to see exactly how spending that much money is going to really pay off. For some guys out there that's a lot of money and they might not need to spend it.
It’s not the powervalve. The PV doesn’t start to open until ~5k, and the blubbery running is it being too rich, period. No, you don’t have to fix it - it still runs smoothly, but it runs better if you do. And you’ll get better fuel economy. The benefit to the ERM is adjustability. You can change whatever you want. If you only ride easy trails and want more top-end, you can do that too.
@@WASemiHardEnduro The KTM engineers talked about how the "stuttering" on the bottom end comes from the first and second injectors "dancing" back and forth (on and off taking turns) and they also made the comment that if you notice, the engine is still running very smooth with lots of traction (don't let let the sound fool you). I ride extreme rocky steep trails, and long trails, lots of mixed, some super slow tech and then medium harsh...not a lot of full out straight out but some wide open throttle for hell hills. Yes, fuel consumption is lackluster even with slower nasty trails. I would still like to see a real test so I guess I'll take the plunge and check it out. Bike runs great right now...
I just got 12.5 hours from a full oil tank on 24 300XCW and that was when the light came on.. Guessing that was 5+ full tanks. Arizona hard enduro and rocky single track.
The ERM allows you to do that - mine was spot-on as-delivered. You can adjust the TPS to get the entire map to run a little leaner, but that's not ideal.
Love the video's! What do you do during the winter riding time in the PNW to keep your bike up to temp while riding? It let my 22 KTM 300XC warm up to say 165' before I touch the throttle but then when I take off and ride it drops down to anywhere between 115 and 135 when its only 40-50 outside. I think this is why my bike is loading up while im riding, the ECU thinks its in warm up mode and provides more fuel and oil and then she loads up. What do you think?
I ride year-round and with both TPI and TBI I haven't had any issues. I warm mine up to about 100 (rad temp) before taking off (165 is unnecessary). Note that if you have a thermostat still (and you should!!), the rad temps will drop with cold airflow, but the t-stat will close if it gets too cold in order to keep coolant temp at the head at an optimal level. Rad temps of 115-135 shouldn't trigger a "cold-start" mode. AFAIK, the ECU's "cold start mode" turns off at >50C (~120F), but that's measured at the head, not the rads. I suspect your issue might be 1. You removed the t-stat, or 2. likely a bad CCPS. The only time I've ever had to "clean out" my TPI was 1. when it had a bad CCPS, and 2. when I did the injector relocation kit (ran like crap, so I removed it). Lastly - you can block one radiator with cardboard to get temps up higher if it's cold and you're riding a decent speeds (lots of airflow).
Thank you for the response. I have never touched the thermostat and I also removed my IRK. Maybe the CCPS has gone out again, it only has about 30 hours on it since the last time I replaced it. I will try that, thank you! @@WASemiHardEnduro
That's about the max I got out of a CCPS - i have stacks of them sitting in my shop.😒 Though once I got the John Ross tune, I never went through another CCPS... not sure what that's about, but I highly highly recommend his tune for TPIs!
@@WASemiHardEndurohave you since put any of their head inserts into the bike? I'm still on the fence. The bike makes plenty of power at WOT, but definitely has a gurgling rich condition at low throttle inputs.
Can I just get a reflash from a dealer or do I have to buy the module? Also what do you consider high elevation to get a different head? I ride at 3-7k ft.
You can send you ecu in to a tuner like TBITuning.com or South Bay Moto and they will flash it for you. Half the price of buying the ERM. 3k-7k would be fine for a head. I just see many people who ride below 3k with aftermarket heads and they need race gas.
I just bought the erm for my 24 husky te300. When you downloaded the map from their website did you download the ktm xcw map? I didnt see a husky choice. It just says ktm brand bud doesnt list TE. Thanks for any help you can offer.
Just did TSP Head and ECU Flash with Med insert on 23 TE300. Night and day difference. Got the Low comp insert to play with too. Which are you running? Gotta ask, what in tarnation is the protruding black knob on your left handlebar?
Stock head. I don’t think an aftermarket head is needed unless you’re running higher elevations. The knob is a Ram mount for a double-take mirror (for when I need to be street legal).
I'll be selling it. It works well for adjusting the fueling, but it obviously cannot do ignition timing or powervalve tuning, and I think adjusting all 3 is key for these bikes.
@@user-id8ng9eq9h It's the KTM group. It's rare that they release a product that's not half assed. Issue with the fuel pump as well that leaves a bunch of fuel in the tank the pump can't access 🤦
JD Tuner was great for cleaning up the fueling, but the ERM (or any reflash) can do timing and power valve in addition to fuel, which helps massively. Way more power, much cleaner running, and the map switch now makes a huge difference.
No one has to. I haven’t and don’t see a need for it. Sounds like this guys bike had something wrong with it. No one in our group has had to do anything to their 24’s, they’re all really good. Not sure why the need for a blanket generalization saying all these bikes need help, it’s not the case in my experience
Nothing “wrong” with it. They just run rich. They all do. Some people are ok with that, some people aren’t. If you’re coming from a carb’d bike, it probably doesn’t bother you at all. But the ‘24 TE and XCW are down on power compared to the TPI - 5hp less peak. If you want that power back, you need a reflash.
I just installed the medium head + ERM and the bike is super fun now. Throttle response is outstanding and the bike had a snappy + playful feel to it that makes me want to ride more. Definitely worth it for me.
Great to hear! It’s a must-do on these bikes.
When I first rode my 2024 TE300, I thought something was wrong with it. The bike ran exactly as you described (blubberly and sputtered). I had buyer's remorse until I purchased the TSP ERM. I uploaded the free map, and there is a night and day difference with how the bike runs. It's a different bike now. Keep the videos coming, it’s awesome to hear your perspective!
Thanks for watching. I felt the same way. I wasn’t super impressed, coming from a tuned TPI.
I’ve got a 24 TE300 and have the TSP ERM and head. I agree with everything you said about the stock configuration and how much better it is with the TSP tune and head. It’s now the best bike I’ve ever ridden.
24 TE250 rider .. ERM is a fantastic device and the TSP map is great along with their head dome insert. I found a lot of my crappy running stock bike symptoms came from terrible quality control and I encourage anyone with a new TBI to just go through checking your Cylinder deck height ( adjustable by selecting the correct thickness base gasket(s) and the mechanical adjustment for power valve height! both of mine were WAY off from the factory and I chased so much other stuff first before finding this. My power valve was over 1/8" too closed!! Correcting these two areas made a HUGE difference in the way the bike runs. The "mechanics" at most KTM dealers aren't even going to consider these two very important specs.. . I love my ERM and I've been able to super dial in the TSP map to run even better for my circumstances.. Shame on KTM !! They don't give one poop about quality control or even making good on their errors...
Hey Jared, this is John from NSR days. Just got the ERM and excited to try it. Thanks for your video. Let's go ride sometime! There's the Kilted Duck Poker Run at Walker on June 15th
Hey John! 90% likely I'll be there and would be great to ride w/ you!
Cool vid. luv to see your changes on the ERM.., every terrain and rider is different but maybe a vid on why and where the changes on the ERM would be cool, thanks
The 2024 GG 300 ex is 🔥. Coming off my 23 300xcw . You’re absolutely right about the ec and te TBI’s …dogs till they get flashed .
👍 I think most people will be happy with just the base reflash. It’s a big difference.
Thanks for the 24 te review! I have a 19 te250i. Planning on getting the new 300. And giving the 250 to my son. Great bikes! I’m also from Washington (Puyallup)
Great review of the TSP. Huge improvement on my 300xcw and I don’t have the ERM, just reflashed ECU.
got the tsp for my 23 tx300 a couple of months ago and cannot believe the difference!
That splutter just off idle was shitting me to tears
Good to know this. I've been watching videos of this bike wondering right away, wtf is wrong with the way it sounds at partial throttle. It sounded too lean to me but most people are saying it's too rich, stock? I dunno. But it sounded immediately noticeably weird.
Hey got a 2023 XC love the bike, what time did you go for and what did you notice other than getting rid of the stutter
2024 TE300 Pro rider. I could not disagree more with your statements about the stock maps for the bike, at least as far as the Pro version of the TBI goes. My bike runs like butter when I follow the warm up procedure in the book. She is awesome at low RPM, she will chug and chug and chug up the gnarliest climbs. When she is allowed to run she flies. Mid can be a little flat but no big deal. All of this low end cleanliness goes away if you don't let her warm up and use a decent "for injection" 2 stroke oil. If you run JASCO-FD injection ready oil she purrs. I run redline and always allow her to warm up properly. I also run an FE350 with a Vortex and full FMF system as well as it being fully uncorked, I know what a chug hound feels like and that TE300 TBI Pro as epic. All IMHO of course and based on the bikes I currently own and ride. For note, it doesn't matter what map I use, she runs perfectly, but like I said. I run Redline JASCO-FD oil so it's a race ready, for Injection 2 stroke oil. Hope this info helps, I know it seems a little contrary but I didn't want folks thinking that everyone that had these bikes had the same awful experience as it seems you may have. Maybe try some different 2/oil. Just a thought.
Glad you like it! They are definitely perfectly rideable stock. What other 300s have you owned that you’d compare it too?
It is well-known that they are pretty rich down low, an opinion shared by a LOT of riders. Stock, it sounds like a Sherco with a too-fat pilot jet. They also get terrible fuel mileage, another indicator that they’re too rich. They’re also down 7hp compared to the TPI bikes.
Just ordered the full power kit. Medium comp head with erm device from TSP. Excited to try it. My 24 TE300 pro just runs, off. Blubbery in spots and simply doesn't rev out at all. Right when it should be getting its power band it signs off. So I'm hoping this solves it all
It will definitely solve it!👍
I’m rolling on a 23 TE300. I went with the TSP ERM and the medium compression head and all I can say is H@#Y SH#T!!! I downloaded the Jarvis map and installed it effortlessly. The difference in power delivery was absolutely astonishing! If you even remotely liked your bike before install, then you’re gonna love it after! Good luck
@@hamilrammer yep I did the medium comp head and ERM and I'm exceptionally stoked with the result. Made this new TE my favorite bike I've owned.
Went with the TSP ERM on my ‘24 300 Hardenduro. Night and day difference! Fuel consumption is down considerably. Might be able to get 60 miles out of a tank now.
60 would be nice! I never even had the gas light come on, on my TPI.
Yea thanks KTM for F'ing us on the gas tank BS!
Hello from the Pacific NorthWet!
I feel like we’re in each others backyard!
What tire are you running in this video? Seems to hook up everywhere.
Your last video has me second guessing my faith for the 525/505 Shinkos. Now that I’m on a beta 200 I need to be more weight-minded in my choice of tires.
Good content.
Sub’d
I think in this vid I was running the Plews Tough One Extreme. I’ve run quite a few and I’m always trying new ones. It’s hard to beat the AT81EX or JX8 for outright grip around here. The VE33S is also a great do-everything tire. Any of those will be better and lighter than the Shinkos.
Great video and awesome riding! I wonder what a tune would do to my 24 TE250!
A tune from any reputable shop would do wonders I’m sure!
Sounds like it makes it run a little more like the XC/TX bikes, more power. Any improvement in fuel economy? Grey fender on the back looks good.
Fuel mileage seems to be better, but I keep forgetting to measure it.
Mileage yesterday on a *hard* 20mi loop was 26.6 MPG. My TPI was low-30s in the same conditions. Combine this with a shit fuel pump design, and I’d say this is a huge miss on KTM’s part.
I missed what gearing/sprockets your running? Awesome videos thanks 💪💪
Still running stock gearing
What riding zone is this? Looks so fun
Thanks for sharing! Great riding!
Would you buy the ERM only or it really worth buying the head with it?
I think the stock head is just fine. No need to get a head unless you only ride at high elevation.
@@WASemiHardEnduro Ok thanks ✌🏼
Nice vid man, like your content. What bar bag are you running?
Check my Best Mods vid, there a link in the description. It’s a cheap airsoft bag.
You guys do a lot of leg crawling riding, so I'd like to see more real world riding and explanation to see how the ERM and tunes would be better for operation. FYI when the "blubbery" sound comes on at low RPM, the bike is still running smooth. And even when listening to a carb bike, like a Beta or Sherco, down low they are blubber too. That sound is when the power valve closing off. On the TBI the blubber noise is more of the way the second injector comes on and off. Not saying the ERM and tuning isn't nice, but just sayin it would be helpful to see exactly how spending that much money is going to really pay off. For some guys out there that's a lot of money and they might not need to spend it.
It’s not the powervalve. The PV doesn’t start to open until ~5k, and the blubbery running is it being too rich, period. No, you don’t have to fix it - it still runs smoothly, but it runs better if you do. And you’ll get better fuel economy.
The benefit to the ERM is adjustability. You can change whatever you want. If you only ride easy trails and want more top-end, you can do that too.
@@WASemiHardEnduro The KTM engineers talked about how the "stuttering" on the bottom end comes from the first and second injectors "dancing" back and forth (on and off taking turns) and they also made the comment that if you notice, the engine is still running very smooth with lots of traction (don't let let the sound fool you).
I ride extreme rocky steep trails, and long trails, lots of mixed, some super slow tech and then medium harsh...not a lot of full out straight out but some wide open throttle for hell hills. Yes, fuel consumption is lackluster even with slower nasty trails.
I would still like to see a real test so I guess I'll take the plunge and check it out. Bike runs great right now...
love the videos I just have a quick question. How many tanks do you burn through before having to refill your oil pump reservoir?
At least 3.... I usually fill it before the light comes on, so not really sure how far it'll go.
@@WASemiHardEnduro that's awesome to know I'm picking one up soon and it was a question I forgot to ask at the dealership lmao
I just got 12.5 hours from a full oil tank on 24 300XCW and that was when the light came on.. Guessing that was 5+ full tanks. Arizona hard enduro and rocky single track.
Did you check the TPS voltage? My buddies '24 was a little bit off and was running as u described, he had dealer fix it and now runs crisp.
The ERM allows you to do that - mine was spot-on as-delivered. You can adjust the TPS to get the entire map to run a little leaner, but that's not ideal.
I think I'll skip having to do this and buy a Carby Bike. Thanks for the Vid.
Cool. There’s some good carby bikes still. The ERM should be available for the Shercos at some point.
Love the video's! What do you do during the winter riding time in the PNW to keep your bike up to temp while riding? It let my 22 KTM 300XC warm up to say 165' before I touch the throttle but then when I take off and ride it drops down to anywhere between 115 and 135 when its only 40-50 outside. I think this is why my bike is loading up while im riding, the ECU thinks its in warm up mode and provides more fuel and oil and then she loads up. What do you think?
I ride year-round and with both TPI and TBI I haven't had any issues. I warm mine up to about 100 (rad temp) before taking off (165 is unnecessary). Note that if you have a thermostat still (and you should!!), the rad temps will drop with cold airflow, but the t-stat will close if it gets too cold in order to keep coolant temp at the head at an optimal level. Rad temps of 115-135 shouldn't trigger a "cold-start" mode. AFAIK, the ECU's "cold start mode" turns off at >50C (~120F), but that's measured at the head, not the rads.
I suspect your issue might be 1. You removed the t-stat, or 2. likely a bad CCPS. The only time I've ever had to "clean out" my TPI was 1. when it had a bad CCPS, and 2. when I did the injector relocation kit (ran like crap, so I removed it).
Lastly - you can block one radiator with cardboard to get temps up higher if it's cold and you're riding a decent speeds (lots of airflow).
Thank you for the response. I have never touched the thermostat and I also removed my IRK. Maybe the CCPS has gone out again, it only has about 30 hours on it since the last time I replaced it. I will try that, thank you! @@WASemiHardEnduro
That's about the max I got out of a CCPS - i have stacks of them sitting in my shop.😒 Though once I got the John Ross tune, I never went through another CCPS... not sure what that's about, but I highly highly recommend his tune for TPIs!
Why did you remove your IRK kit? assume you have a TSP head/dome/tune@@garylewis176
hey great vid, what octane fuel are you running? thanks
Pump 91
Why is the JD Jetting Tuner still blinking on your frame in the video if is tuned with the TSP ERM. Did you just set everything to 3 so it was stock?
Yes. I’ve since removed it.
@@WASemiHardEndurohave you since put any of their head inserts into the bike? I'm still on the fence. The bike makes plenty of power at WOT, but definitely has a gurgling rich condition at low throttle inputs.
@@christopherhennessy3517 I didn’t do a head, I didn’t think it needed it.
Can I just get a reflash from a dealer or do I have to buy the module? Also what do you consider high elevation to get a different head? I ride at 3-7k ft.
You can send you ecu in to a tuner like TBITuning.com or South Bay Moto and they will flash it for you. Half the price of buying the ERM.
3k-7k would be fine for a head. I just see many people who ride below 3k with aftermarket heads and they need race gas.
I just bought the erm for my 24 husky te300. When you downloaded the map from their website did you download the ktm xcw map? I didnt see a husky choice. It just says ktm brand bud doesnt list TE. Thanks for any help you can offer.
Yeah XCW is the same bike as the TE
Just did TSP Head and ECU Flash with Med insert on 23 TE300. Night and day difference. Got the Low comp insert to play with too. Which are you running?
Gotta ask, what in tarnation is the protruding black knob on your left handlebar?
Stock head. I don’t think an aftermarket head is needed unless you’re running higher elevations.
The knob is a Ram mount for a double-take mirror (for when I need to be street legal).
Do you think the average rider should get the medium TSP head and tune at the same time or is just the tune fine?
I just did the tune. I don’t think a head is needed at all.
I've noticed on my 300 xcw when I ride at higher rpm when I let off the gas it pops and detonates bad.
Could be lean. Is it stock?
What happened to the JD jetting tuner you 1st put on the bike?
I'll be selling it. It works well for adjusting the fueling, but it obviously cannot do ignition timing or powervalve tuning, and I think adjusting all 3 is key for these bikes.
Do you tune and remove the module or must it remain connected ?
You can tune with the module, then just remove it to ride. The flash is stored in the ecu.
What about fule Consumption mine was insane 2 and a 1/2 hours 40 km fule light came on
Yeah stock mileage is horrible. It seems to be better now, but I haven’t measured it or gone on one continuous long ride yet. My rides have all been
Which map set did you get? Trail, mx, hard enduro?
There is currently only one map available for the XCW/TE. The XC/TX/SX has multiple maps.
Why do you think the bikes come with bad mappings? Am I reading it right the ECM is $650 !!
It’s pretty rich stock, and way down on peak HP. That can be easily fixed with a good map. The ERM is $450, or you can get a reflash for around $250.
@@WASemiHardEnduro yeah but why does KTM/Husk deliver the bikes these way? Is the thought it's emissions related?
@@user-id8ng9eq9h It's the KTM group. It's rare that they release a product that's not half assed. Issue with the fuel pump as well that leaves a bunch of fuel in the tank the pump can't access 🤦
so how does itcompare to the jd tune?
JD Tuner was great for cleaning up the fueling, but the ERM (or any reflash) can do timing and power valve in addition to fuel, which helps massively. Way more power, much cleaner running, and the map switch now makes a huge difference.
Why is that dude riding with a parachute on his back 😂
Seems like a good idea to be prepared when you are that deep in the forest, miles away from any other humans.
He’s the dude you want with you when you need something…anything. 🙂
Wait was he actually wearing a parachute? If so, what are some of the actual legit use cases for a parachute while riding enduro in a forest?
I think it’s a little lame that someone has to spend 450 $ to flash the ECU to make it run as it should in the first place WOW !!
I don’t disagree
No one has to. I haven’t and don’t see a need for it. Sounds like this guys bike had something wrong with it. No one in our group has had to do anything to their 24’s, they’re all really good.
Not sure why the need for a blanket generalization saying all these bikes need help, it’s not the case in my experience
Nothing “wrong” with it. They just run rich. They all do. Some people are ok with that, some people aren’t. If you’re coming from a carb’d bike, it probably doesn’t bother you at all. But the ‘24 TE and XCW are down on power compared to the TPI - 5hp less peak. If you want that power back, you need a reflash.