Suntory Chita Whiskey with Redbreast 12 Comparison. + Timorous Beastie Cameo Ep: 236
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- Опубліковано 20 сер 2024
- Today we taste and review Suntory Chita Whiskey and compare it to Redbreast 12. Timorous Beastie blended scotch also makes an appearance.
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I will always love and appreciate Daniels stories. I learn every time i watch and I love it.
What no bottle down ceremony for the Redbreast 12?! What the hell is going on?! Keep up the great work guys.
Rex gave it oral. It's the alternative ceremony.
ChrisC haha
yeah, I was too traumatized to remember the ceremony
Suntory Chita can be found in duty free shops at the airport! Also if you are in Aichi Prefecture in Japan, check the Aichi special version of Chita. Chita by they way is named after the Chita Peninsula where the distillery is located.
Look at Rex being all Sommy...pulling bottles and nailing it! :-)
Even a blind squirrel finds an acorn every now and then. ;)
Hi Guys - Great Review , fantastic whisky . I was told that ‘The Chita’ has been specially produced for the duty free markets , hence , it cannot be found everywhere ( I doubt it’s illegal 😏 in the USA ) it’s found here in Malta 🇲🇹 ( Europe ) salud
Chita is a great whisky, if you like a sweet whisky with a quick vaguely fruity aftertaste. Even though it's a NAS.
At long last...I'M A MAGNIFICENT BASTARD!!! Glad you liked it!
t'was exceptional!
see, I didnt even have to send a whisky for it, I mooched it.
I remember feeling that same trepidation that Daniel had when you first pulled the bottle out. Hmmm. I wonder what about it gives off that vibe.
I bought a bottle yesterday because of this review. Thanks you MAGNIFICENT BASTARD!!!
Firstly; like.
Secondly; thanks Daniel for giving us some background on the product you're trying. I actually really enjoy the story behind the whisky; much to the chagrin of Rex.
Thirdly; thanks Daniel for expanding our knowledge of the whole NAS (No Age Statement). I'm a firm believer in your theory of NAS working both ways as you say.
As always; well done boys.
I just found out that my mom likes whisk(e)y. Thanks guys, it was pretty great. I had a taste off with 4 bottles.
Your mom is awesome.
She was mooching! I was happy to oblige.
What i really like about your Reviews is that you are able to bind all the hints you get from whisky to a single memory of your own. Whenever people ask me why they taste different things in the same whisky as i am i point to the Whisk(e)y Vault. What is really easy to understand watching your videos is that a guy from Texas cant have the complete same experience from a Whisky as a guy from Bavaria, Germany. Because we grew up with different smells and tasted completely different things. So we may agree in things like sweetness, caramell, dark fruits and so on...but never in the memory we recall from tasting a whisky. There are many people that review Whisky on youtube...i think you deserve your spot among them because you deliver something i dont get from the other...thanks for your effort.
That is absolutely true! One of my favorite things about smelling and tasting. It's another reason I really love trying whisky with newbies. They always find things I never thought of.
How timely, I just bought Suntory Toki yesterday. Great for the value!
Thomas Buck my name is Thomas and I just bought some toki today as well lol
Thomas Leinenbach Nice! I also own Hibiki Harmony which is fantastic but more pricey. The thing I like about the tokiso far is that it is subtly smokey and subtly sweet.
I am here sitting in Japan enjoying some great Japanese Whiskeys, truly enjoy your channel, thank you for all the insights, your reviews and ideas has allowed me to enjoy whiskey (Whisky) with a new look on how amazing it truly is....thank you!
Got the day off and finally able to watch right away! #WhiskyFriday is off to a great start!
Cheers!
I keep a favorite Whisky for each region/type and RedBreast 12 is by far my favorite Irish. At least until I can afford a bottle of Greenspot and still keep the lights on. That being said, I now need to find some Chita....
Kevin Pasley try some green spot Leoville Barton wine cask finish or powers 12 if you can get hold of it. Nice alternative to redbreast.
First whisky I have ever had today with the chita, it was very nice got a sweet smell and a bit of mint and sweet taste. very good
Just drank about half a bottle of Bulleit and oh man thank you Rex. This has to be my new favorite budget whiskey next to wild turkey.
I love Chita! Also found it in Korea. Glad to hear others have discovered it.
Just got it tonight. At $109 au thoughtvid try it rather thar spending 250 for hibiki. Got to say i like it a hell of a lot more than i thought i would. 👍
Chita available at my local store. Already on a next week's shopping list.
And Redbreast 12 is waiting to be picked up at the store on Monday. Man you guys guessed it all)))
The Whiskey Biscuits will always be welcome in Colorado. I wouldn't be surprised if there were a few Stranahan's bottle bongs, or Tin Cup bongs floating around Denver, since both bottles come with free jiggers.
EDIT: Also, filming in my home state carries an obligatory dinner at Casa Bonita, so take that, Daniel!
I see The Chita all over the place in Japan and thumb my nose at it. But now I understand it better, gave it a try and enjoyed. The Chita is the low end position within the Suntory whiskey world. Its the high end product coming from the low end Chita distillery, located in the industry-scape of Nagoya. The distillery is really an alcohol factory, mass producing alcohol in column stills for the universe of Suntory products (and others) that are not craft, for example canned chu-hai and the convenient 2L jugs of shochu and "whisky" on the bottom shelves of Japanese convenience stores (7-11 et al) and Aeon. The distillery looks for the outside like a gasoline refinery. No joke. The Chita is the same wholesale alcohol but aged in casks and put in a kanji bottle that mimics Yamazaki and other high end brands. The product is easily drinkable, has a wide distribution strategy, and comes in varied sizes. So it's the entry whisky for younger consumers, those on a budget who can't swallow the swill on the bottom shelf or need a decent mixer. I recently purchased a 180 ml bottle at my local 7-11 in Tokyo!
Was gifted this from my father in law. I like it. It's all gone. Oishikatta.
Hey guys, thanks for the awesome videos, I have always like drinking whisky, but now I see myself actually trying to distinguish the smells and nueces. Is hard to find a good diversity of whiskys here in Brazil, but I've been enjoying some glenfiddich 12 and Wild Turkey.
Keep up with the great videos
Cheers
Glad you're watching!
I don't remember a whole lot about the Chita (It was later at night, so... you know), but the thing that stuck out to me was chardonnay. Fully golden color, buttery rich nose, full mouthfeel. It was the chardonnay of whiskey.
Got off work, went home, and getting ready to sleep... then bam notification that you guys uploaded a video! Guess I'm staying up. lol
Redbreast 12 is my all time favorite whiskey. Just last week I discovered a very similar whiskey also from Middleton, also sherry casked, but obviously younger and for half the price. So WTH, I see Rex grab and smell the bottle, then replace it on the shelf without comment before drinking the last 2 drops from a bottle of Redbreast 12. I would really appreciate it if you would compare the two and see if you agree that the Power's Select is about 85% there compared to the Redbreast 12. Cheers.
Been bragging to my wife about you guys. A coworker of her's was ranting to her that he wants to try whiskey and not sure where to start. She told him about you guys and he should be checking the channel out.
That is awesome.
Suggestion for a best of video. Best of the birds: famous grouse, wild turkey, old crow, eagle rare, etc. Obviously we want to see all of them and allow the mooch to splurge. But maybe a top 5 or so for best of and bang for your buck.
If this whiskey doesn't make it to the #1 spot on your favorite Japanese whiskys, I guess it's true what they say:
Chita never wins, and winners never cheat
Daniel, they have the Timorous beastie here in Houston, Premier wine and spirits runs about 65 bucks
1ST... My life long goal has been achieved... i will drink 2 drams in this honor!!
livin' the dream 👍
Could possibly use a 'schnapps pipe' for paraphernalia. I was introduced to them by a friend of mine who is a glass blower and made a glass schnapps pipe ... definitely would be an interesting way of drinking whisky.
Mark is awesome!
Peter Schumacher Thanks, Peter!
Glad to see Redbreast again. It's hard to tell if you've reviewed the Redbreast cask strength based on your episode titles. I like it even better than the original. Maybe this can be #2,986 on your to-review list.
Was just about to pass out after my exam and being up for (what day is it... holy flying whiskey biscuits. 64 hours) ... guess not... damn you I must suffer through. Like Rex drinking expensive whiskey.
I love it when I suggest something and you just happen to do it within a few day.
Now that Rex can pull bottles from the shelf like a proper sommelier perhaps you need a new mooch. I humbly offer my services as a level 7205 mooch
Happy Birthday to The Mooch! November 18! Love, Baga
MARK PATTON, YOU MAGNIFICENT KIRK(T)
Love Timorous Beastie as well. Thanks again, you guys.
the funny thing is...you look at the back label and it says grain & malt. So technically it's a blend! For me, it's a weaker version of the Nikka Coffey Malt (a favorite) that is widely available (I live in Japan)
I've just gotten my hands on The Chita it was really good.
Always fun to see what someone else think´s when trying a new whisky. Japanese whisky never disappoint you, but i wonder if it would be even better if it had stayed a little bit longer in the barrel?
Japanese whisky seems to be at the other far end of the spectrum from Islay Scotches. I think thats why those 2 are my favorite whisky types.
Whisk(e)y is to be appreciated as an experience, and you do such a good job of reviewing it as such. Neither of you mechanically rattle off flavour profiles - You jest and get excited and remember things and tell stories or curious facts about the distillery, You give us an experience akin to whats in the bottle. Thankyou
Also When are you going to review Diamondback? I hear its got one hell of a BOOSH ;)
soon!
Catching up on these old episodes. I tend to google these whiskeys as I go and noticed this one is not available at the moment because it says "Japanese Whisky" on the bottle and Japan has just passed official whisky laws on what official Japanese whisky is.
You guys should do a Christmas gift ideas episode. I just bought my dad a bottle of Angel's Envy for Christmas (for the bargain price of $40 at my local liquor super store in Kentucky) and I'm hoping I might receive a bottle of Genfarclas in return.
I would like to request a review on The Sexton Single Malt
I love Chita
You should review the whiskies you dislike the most.
OR
You should review whiskies from various movies.
Just for fun.
I get raw butternut pumpkin in finishing~~ 😅
More Highland Park reviews!
Daniel is losing it, the mooch downed one bottle and did not miss a beat grabbing a new one. Classic Mooch #Whish[e]yFriday
Now I have to top the Chita when I show up for Level II.
Im glad theres more people than just me upset that there was no bottle down for that Redbreast
Just tried my bottle of Chita that I got a few weeks ago in duty free. It's probably my least favorite whiskey of all time! Instead of angel food cake and buttery popcorn, I got moldy bread and chlorine. First dram I couldn't finish yet. Oh well....I only bought it to round out my Suntory collection on the shelf anyway!
hey somm and mooch i have story in true daniel fashion it was recently my friends 30th birthday and seeing he likes an odd whiskey i decided to use my new found mooch levels plus the tiny bit of whiskey knowledge picked up from this channel. we had $350 aussie to spend which isn't a lot here. we got him a nikka coffee grain full bottle $235 (ill add the prices) and after me explaining to whoever would listen about the nikka suntory story split subtle nuanced still worked for 10 years. the bottle shop near me breaks whiskey into 100ml bottles to make it easier to taste and try more expensive whiskey so we got him as 6 of these 100ml bottles
stagg jr $350 full bottle
oban distillers edition $150 full bottle
macallan double cask 12 $109 full bottle
ardbeg dark cove $180 full bottle
benromach organic $100 full bottle
sazerac rye $140
all of this i will most definitely try with him hahahaha but this is not the end while i was at the party i noticed the bar had a laphroig 10 and i must admit i love a good bourbon, scotch is still yet to really grow on me but i thought i give it a whirl any way and wow was i impressed. it wasn't really the taste or the smell though i did spend about 10 minutes just nosing my glass for that smoke and camp fire smell which was just amazing to come from a drink but it was more just the experience of trying something so different to what i was expecting and this is after listening to you 2 describe it over and over again
i hope this is in part read out on the channel it will great to hear you guys go through my selections of the whiskeys for him to try to get him going and well rounded into where ever his whiskey travel go from there
Ok, here we go! I have a friend that only drinks one or two different beers (10 -12 beers in a night) and then later on moves on to Captain Morgan with orange. I love whisk(e)y but he gives me shit for it! Is there a whisk(e)y out there that might bring him around to whisk(e)y and open up his palate to new things? By the way love your show and your new channel Whiskey Biscuits.
If he consumes alcohol at that speed, stick to Jameson, Bushmills, or budget bourbons.
These guys are great
Was waiting the the bottle down ceremony. "Its raining man..."
I was too traumatized to remember it
That moment and Daniel's face at 10:55.
Going from Chita to Glenlivet 18 ruined the Glenlivet's taste (even after rinsing the glass between drinks), but going the other way was just fine. What is it about the Chita that makes it hard to go to an Islay afterward?
I see Timorous Beastie all over the place and I've been really really curious about it and the comments we got about it were: "I really dig this one."
ahh well, at least I know to stay away from that garish blue bottle. I see that bottle all over the place and can only think it was a failed cologne that they rebranded as a drink.
Do a whisky review for Lot 40, Pike Creek, and Gooderham & Worts if you haven't already
Daniel, please tell me what I smell in the Timorous Beastie. I smell only one strong smell, but just can't find out what it is...
great job Rex
Wanted you guys know that I really enjoy the videos. I've only been a viewer for about three months, but have been making up for lost time. I'm a former chef and archaeologist, and now a third grade teacher in Colorado. I'm interested in how I can become a Som. Also, if you haven't tried the stranahans sherry cask, check it out 😊 Thanks guys. You give me a mini vacation with each video.
You guys need to try eagle rare 10 it's my favorite bourbon!!
90% I know now about whisky, I learned it from Daniel. So tell me Rex... remind us... why are you here, again?
Oh btw, would love to have you guys review Michter's Small Batch Bourbon :) It has become my everyday bourbon and I doubt that I ever wanna taste another brand of bourbon every again.
Cheers! Drinking this one now
How about a review of the Black&White whiskey?
I know there’s probably not a lot (if any) viewer crossover, but y’all should do a couple videos with InRangeTV. Ian and Karl like whiskey, and it would be totally dope if y’all did a couple videos introducing them to y’alls world and they in turn could introduce y’all to their world. A lot of people who like whiskey also like things that go bang, and vise versa. Just don’t do both in the same day;)
Daniel, I just got a shipment from Master of Malt of Scallywag 13, Timorous Beastie 18 yr old, Rock Oyster Sherry Cask, Rock Oyster 18 yr and Regular Beastie. Have only ever tried Scallywag but like it. Shame shipping is so high. Have you ever done a comparison of Tullibardine and Glenmorangie? They both do oak, sherry and sauturen cask finishes. Tullibardine does a burgandy wine cask as opposed to port cask finish. Tullibardine is NAS and all versions run about $50.00. Might be an interesting comparison.
I'm doing a full comparison run on Douglas whisky right now. Love all of them.
Whiskey Vault Douglas Laing doesn't have the complexity of Compass Box, but also doesn't carry the much higher price. So far I've liked all their blends except Epicurean, would rathedrnk Glenkinnchie Distillers Edition.
Hold up. This isnt Glenlivet cognac cask.
Quality of content is always amazing and I love the Japanese Whisky reviews.
I was looking for a bottle of Hibiki to try but the only Japanese Whisky I could find anywhere around my area (Indiana) was a bottle of Nikka Taketsuru Pure Malt.
After waiting a week for it to arrive I was finally able to try it and I thought it was very delightful. I enjoyed this even more than my go-to Monkey Shoulder and this was the first Whisky were I really felt complex tastes brushing over my pallet.
I am still very much searching for a bottle of Hibiki but any chance you guys could review the Nikka Pure Malt? What if I threw in a...
#Mooch4life
Thats a good one, better than Hibiki
I cant collected any whisky. I think i have a problem
Highland Park 12 VS Highland Park D.O.? And whats the Viking H.P.?
When you guys eventually do the top 10 advanced whisk(e)ys maybe you should do a top 10 whiskeys for Daniel and for Rex sometime. I'm sure Monkey Shoulder would be on both your lists
Anyway another good video guys, keep it up
Good job on getting over 45K Subs! Looking forward for tomorrow on the other channel.
I’m “early” as they say.
Really, I’m just not as late as most people who watch this video will be.
Only people who are “early” are the ones that watched it before it was uploaded. So, Chad. Maybe Daniel, Rex, and others.
Been loving everything you guys do, thanks to you guys I really want to try getting into whisky but can't seem to find a whisky what would be good for starting off. So question is any suggestion for a person who really isn't into booz, what whisky would be a great starter whisky. I tried Monkey Shoulder but still not use to it.
Thanks everyone. Keep up the good work.
I'll be toasting tonight with my pals, expect a video soon!
Think you fellas can pull off a poor man's Highland Park 25 YO? My top five drams of all time just enjoying last night but it is now discontinued and oh so expensive to replace. Help!!
In NYC, there are a few shisha bars that allow you to choose alcohol to add into the water. I tried whiskey. It was actually super amazing. It also gets you poop faced in a snap, since the blood barrier in the lungs are so much easier to get through. 9/10 - would recommend.
Inspired by your "Poor man's..." series, I just mixed Lagavulin 16, Glenkinchie 12 and Dalwhinnie 15. It's midnight and I'm watching this so don't damn me to hell. What do you think this combination tastes like? I don't have a clue, never tasted hundreds of whiskies, so.. any ideas? Honey and peat are what I'm tasting and smelling.
Have you guys had a chance to try kavalan out of Taiwan? I have heard good things about it and have been meaning to buy a bottle. I am curious of your opinion. Thanks for the informative videos. Definitely helping out a newbie like me.
Chris Contreraz They did a video on 16th Dec. Go check it out
Today I bought my first bottle of whisky. Its an ardmore legacy and I really love the taste of it. I really want to drink a twenty-one year old whisky because im twenty years old now and drinking a whisky older than me is a goal for now. But i am a student so money is kind of an issue. I decided to not buy a bottle but just go to a bar, it’s legal here under 21 ( the Netherlands). Can you tell me a good whisky that is over 21 years old. Im willing to pay €15 for a glass.
Love your vids, big whiskey fan. I'm looking a lot online about brewing whiskey at home, I'm finding a lot of videos about the process but none about flavouring the whiskey. Any tips/advice? Also have you ever brewed it yourself?
My friends got gifted a bottle of the Hakushu 12, and neither drink whisky. I drink it with them and other guests when I visit and theyve joked that its basically my bottle. Once we finish it I want to replace it with something nicer and just as beginner friendly. Any suggestions?
Hey, Somm is there a bottle of Whyte and Mackay blended scotch in the vault? If so would you review it? I remember you saying they own some of your favorite brands and I particularly appreciate Jura. - Kirk
Hey guys, question, what is the significance of color in a whiskey (assuming an "honest" color here, no dyes added)? I'm assuming darker = older, which probably leads to more of a wood taste?
If you factor out food coloring in it, the color can be affected by a few things from what I've noticed.
1.) If it's a new or used barrel(just taking a guess based on the difference in color from bourbon and Scotch since bourbon uses new barrels and Scotch requires used)
2.) The climate it's aged in(temperature and humidity over the aging process)
3.) The amount of time it's been aged
Whiskies will generally be darker when they're older, but a NAS bourbon will usually be darker than a Scotch that's been aged for 10+ years. And the barrel notes will usually be stronger on the bourbon(big part of the vanilla flavor associated with it)
Anyone else in the comments feel free to point out if I'm horribly wrong on any of this, I'm going mostly off of really limited exposure and things said in past videos on the channel.
Jarrod nailed it!
You guys just passed 45k subscribers. Will you do another live stream to celebrate 50k subscribers like how you celebrated 10k subscribers?
That's the idea!
any really buttered whiskey to recommend me ive never picked butter notes on any whiskey and it bothers me a lot! (budget prefered)
Does the buttery nose and taste have to do with the barrel note exclusively or is there a chemical change similar to malolactic fermentation in wine? Thanks for the great work guys.
I think it's both, but more research is needed.
Daniel (and I guess, Rex), what are your thoughts on having an 'infinity bottle' that you keep adding final pours of whiskies into to create an ever-changing tasting blend?
I dig the idea!
SO... speaking of whiskey bongs. Right after high school I met a lovely young lady from Cork Ireland at a party. She challenged me to go shot for shot with her. I thought nothing of it, seeing as she was about half my size. She then proceeded to beer bong 16 oz of Jameson. Since that day, I will not underestimate the whisk[e]y drinking power of the Irish!
I recently picked up a bottle of Gordan grahams black bottle for £15 ($19) is that good value?
Yes!
have you guys ever tried glencoe? i had it once in bangkok but have never seen it again anywhere. is it even real?
Did anyone else notice we didn't get a bottle down ceremony of the redbreast 12?
DING DING DING DING DING DING DING DING!!!!!! WHERE'S THE BOTTLE DOWN
Which Japanese whiskey is best?? I have a friend in Japan and would like him to bring me one. Open for suggestions!!🤔
so many options! start with one of the Yamazki's or Hibiki. Possibly Nikka
Ding Ding Ding Ding Ding Ding Ding Ding !!!!!!!!!!