Zach Hazard, Ranter of Firearms and Explosives at the Mike Burnfire Channel on UA-cam, which houses a collection of thousands of iconic videos from video games, and today he's ranting about the grenades in Fallout London
11:50 Fun fact: the Italians had impact grenades in WW2. Apparently they were hated by both Italians and the allies. The Italians, because they weren't always the most reliable, and the allies because the ones that didn't go off were still really sensitive and basically became landmines. Italian grenades during WW2 were real interesting, and painted red.
Italians had several models of grenades during WW2, all of them painted red and all of them terrible and unreliable. You can say pretty much the same for most of Italy's infantry weapons during WW2, like an LMG fed through 20 round stripper clips.
@@kj_heichou Pretty much the only infantry weapons which weren't genuinely terrible were the Beretta Model 1934 and 1935 pistols, Beretta Model 38 submachine gun, and the Breda M37 medium machine gun. To the surprise of nobody, the Italians kept those guns around after the war. The Breda M30 and Nambu Type 11 are bitterly fighting to not be last place as to who is the least worst of the two, but it's a close tie.
10:44 Of course the marines would adopt a grenade that they can click together like crayola markers and have swordfights with: One grenade makes boom, beeg grenade makes beeger boom
Hey, it is very useful feature. One can use stack of grenades as effective anti-personnel mine, and big stacks would fit nicely on fixed wing drones. With some future research, it could be possible to use grenade as breaching charge.
Pith helmets are very water absorbing, so when dry absorb sweat but more helpfully is you can soak them in water which helps keep the head cooler for longer.
Mail carriers sometimes still wear white plastic or mesh versions of these on their routes in some areas as it's really great at keeping you and whatever chicken scratch label you're trying to decipher somewhat clear of the rain or baking while carrying an ungodly amount of junk mail in your bag (Wrapping a towel and some rubberbands around the bag's strap is a godsend). Sometimes you'll even see folks stuff plastic shopping bags or wash cloths in them to help with the heat or staying a little warmer and it helps since the foam inserts that they come with never last long, I know the maries used them for a little bit for the first couple of years in the afgan war before that got changed out.
Guess that explains why it's thematic in Africa, given the immense heat. I usually see them on hunters, which makes sense, but also some military there as well, if I recall that right.
2:30 Actually the heavy blasters used by stormtroopers were made from MG-34s, not MG-42s. There were also heavy blasters made from Lewis guns and MG-15s as well.
The funny thing with the Lewis gun being used as a heavy blaster was that the only thing they did to make it sci-fi was just... remove that magazine, that's it, that's all they did to it.
@@zachberger5175 You're sort of correct. The Imperial Scout Troopers had the E-11S as their sniper rifle, but what that rifle actually looks like keeps changing. Some official content has it as more MG-34 inspired, while others show it to be more like a long "sniper-ized" Sterling SMG. And then the original Battlefront game, the first thing it ever appeared in, has it as literally just an MG-42 with a scope. New canon appears to have settled on the "long Sterling" design, but yeah in old canon you are correct that it's based on the MG-42. Sometimes. Depending on the weather and where Jupiter is in relation to Mars.
16:40 White Phosphorous produces not only a lot of smoke _very fast_ but more importantly, that smoke is very hot which masks the Tank from Thermal Imaging
I wonder if Zach would be interested in this, I have an old defusal training kit from Vietnam. Loaded with different inert explosive devices like grenades, mines, etc. used to teach soldiers how to defuse explosive ordinance. Still has the manuals and paperwork. My grandad was a military surplus hoarder.
@@Zach_Hazard I inherited so much stuff from my grandad, he was a Korean war vet. Funny thing is, my dad was supposed to inherit it but my grandad caught him talking shit about him and left most of his stuff to me out of spite.
You forgot a couple of other things for neon lights. Some sort of vacuum apparatus for partial vacuum, and a some chemistry and engineering knowledge to isolate and mix various noble gasses to get different colors. Edit: I initially stated that to get other colors, one would have to use fluorescent compounds that coat the inside of the tube. I think my initial mix up was maybe thinking that fluorescent lights might be used in conjunction with neon lighting. Or maybe my reasoning is that to amplify certain colors, one would also have to use said compounds. Or just mixing up neon and fluorescent lighting. Fun fact: many led lights also use fluorescent coatings for similar reasons to fluorescent lights. Both led and fluorescent lights emit only certain wavelengths of light, so to get other colors (or to get any useful lighting), the fluorescent coating absorbs those initial wavelengths and re-emits as other wavelengths.
I have a Lee Enfield specifically modified to launch grenades. The barrel is cut down, there's a cup muzzle device to hold the grenade, the stock is wrapped in wire to reinforce it, and the magazine is painted red to indicate it should be loaded with blanks.
That's a rare piece of equipment! IIRC to launch the grenade guy using this version of LE had to crouch and position the weapon in specific way (buttstock against heel of one foot, barrel on the calf of the other leg, cup above knee with magazine side of the gun pointing upwards)
I think either Zach himself, Ian McCollum, or Jonathan Ferguson (etc, etc) mentioned this, but the barrel-change mechanism on the MG-42 was designed so that you'd use either a round or a spent shell casing to pull the hot barrel out, so you wouldn't have to burn the crap out of yourself. I remember SOMEONE mentioned that in a video, I just don't remember who...
I feel like using a live round to remove a red-hot metal tube would be a bad idea, considering there's a non-zero chance the round detonates in your hand from the heat
@@BeesechurgerProductions reasons why using spent casings were popular? - i do wonder how hot things get when whole round is used... seems like it'd be pretty hot but it's fairly short term contact with a very hot thing via a somewhat mismatched metal shape? that's going to be a small contact surface no? (-as everyone thought before a few folk lost fingerss, perhaps?)
@Zach_Hazard oof, that's quite a hurdle. Idk what advice I could give to help mitigate motion sickness that you probably already know. Good to hear you have one tho! Can't wait for the H3VR series
@@Zach_HazardI suggest doing a few stationary sit-down type games to acclimate, H3 and other free-moving games can be a lot at the start. The "I Expect You to Die" series is really funny and pretty easy on the stomach.
@@ToastyMozart That's how I got past that hurdle. Did lots of Beat Saber and messed about in VRChat with teleport controls. Slowly acclimated to natural movement, and now I can't imagine playing something like Blade and Sorcery without natural movement.
I would put forward that white phosphorus is more than “smoke.” Yes, it is used in smoke grenades because the stuff creates a lot of smoke. White phosphorus also reaches a temperature of 1400 degrees or more on contact with oxygen, and it has a nasty habit of sticking to things like exposed skin and bronchial tubes.
One of my biggest gripes during fnv was that we have all these people milling about not doing anything in freeside, but house or any of the big wigs couldn't be fucked to pay any of the loiterers to clean up the mountains of trash everywhere. Or hell, have robots do it.
@@declanthompson441 also true. here's a thought, often when level designers are privy to the story they try to tell a story with the enviroment. the rubble and ruin and trash littered around can represent many things. poverty, corruption, etc its probably the reason in all official titles that no place is 100% factory new or washed down. (even the institute was mostly just a show off in its main chamber with most areas, mainly backrooms, being run down and dirty asf. it also gives a sort of consistent theme; no matter how hard you fight to improve in the wasteland, you never fully escape from it.
Fun facts on the Lewis Gun. Savage Arm was the US manufacturer. There are three main variants of the Lewis Gun, the MK I, II, III. The MK I is the one we see the most. The MK II/III are reworked for aircraft use. The MK II shrinks down the barrel shroud to the point where the muzzle is clearly out in front, like the one you find. And then both dropped the stock for hand grips and the ammo pan is enlarged to 97 rounds from old 47 pan. Then the MK III drops the barrel shroud altogether.
0:46 that botherd me about fallout in general. People live in a permanent settlement but can't be bothered to clean it up. I talked to a friend about this once and he insisted that cleaning up the place you live in would be such a low priority in a dangerous place that people would live in filth for generations
16:47 During WW2, both sides carried special "smoke" shells (WP) in their tanks. This smoke was intended to be fired at another enemy tank to blind it. Also, if the hatches were open, it'd royally screw up the soldiers inside. Furthermore, any infantry within 30m or so of the tank hit with one of these, would not be a happy camper. During the Battle of the Bulge, there's a engagement where an American M10 Tank Destroyer was engaged at long range by a Tiger (often mistakenly reported as being a Tiger II) tank that had placed itself on a ridge looking down on the M10's position. The M10 crew fired a smoke shell at it, hitting the Tiger squarely in the front, and then promptly repositioned their vehicle. They weren't trying to KILL the Tiger, but just make it stop shooting at them.
Fun fact, the Russian army as well as some other Eastern European armies still use offensive and defensive grenades, the RGO (Ruchnaya Granata Oboronitel'naya) and RGN (Ruchnaya Granata Nastupatel'naya)
In soviet army the lethal radius of offensive grenade was considered at around 15 meters while the lethal radius of defensive grenade was at around 200 meters ie maximum range at which a piece of shrapnel could be lethal. The defensive grenade as such was considered safe only to be used from cover like trench because you can't throw it far enough so that it would GUARANTEE your safety. However the reality and regulations rarely met in the field.
9:07 fun fact, the Germans had a fragmentation sleeve they could put on the grenades to turn them into fragmentation grenades (however, I think they were seldom used)
21:25 in the austrian army we were taught to always pull the charging handle to the rear and move it back forward even if the bolt already was to the rear, you swapped belts, changed barrel or anything like that.
in the french army we still have both types of grenades, what my dad told me (when he was taught during his military service) was that an offensive grenade has a kill/injure radius smaller than the distance you can throw it, so in a flat terrain with no cover between you and the enemy you can be "safe" (nor really) but at least "fine", a "defensive" grenade is a grenade with a kill radius bigger than the range you can throw it so you NEED to have cover to use it (aka you need to "defend" yourself from your own grenade), at boot camp they where authorised to trow one (old stock) and they did so behind a 1m thick concrete wall (waist high) and my dad told me he could hear the shrapnel zip above his head and the impact on the concrete where similar to bullet impacts (if you want more fun stories from my dad's experience in the military as a mechanic in the "alpine hunters" to tell)
The 9mm pistol (Browning Hi-Power) from Fallout: New Vegas should have been in that mod. They should have also kept the Lewis Gun exactly like its real-life counterpart. The T44 machine gun wasn't made in 1944.
The T21 and T21-b blasters were based on the Lewis gun as well. The T21 basically being a Lewis without the pan on top, and the T21-B having a larger round barrel, and 2 separate scopes where the pan magazine goes.
Way back when I was a Gun Bunny (Paladin), our load was to consist of our standard rounds, ammo bags, .50 cal (usually) or Mk. 19 (also acceptable) rounds, and 3 THERMITE grenades. The reason being, if we ever had to do a "hasty evac" our our gun, we would place 1 thermite 'nade on the engine block, the gun breech, and the computer inside to fry things while we made our withdrawl. If we "had time", we were to load a Comp-B RAP round with a fuze set to "PD" BACKWARDS into the breech with a super-8 redbag behind (in front of?), grab the 100-yard lanyarnd, then pull it, and go. Damn, I love thermite. If you place it on the right thing, it kinda feeds itself, lol
Okay for that Lewis gun when he first pulled it out it looks like they strapped parts of a Lewis gun to the wooden furnishings and trigger mechanism of an Italian Beretta M38 SMG. On a second look and I could be talking out of my ass but it also looks like it has the gas system of a Hotchkiss M1914 Heavy Machine Gun.
Offensive grenades lethal range is less than the throwing range so you don't need to hide behind cover. Defensive grenades lethal range exceed the throwing range so you need to be behind cover to avoid being hit with frag.
The reason you would want to be able to attach grenades together, is because if you set one off the others will also go off. It allows troops to use grenades as IED's with a much higher yield than the individual grenades going off. If you have a bunch of small explosions going off separately, the individual blast waves interfere with each other. If you get them to all go off together the resulting blast is significantly larger.
Best description of the FN MAG is that it is a BAR shoved upside down in a 1919 reciever that then had an MG42 feed system & FCG grafted on. The FG42 was also just mechanically a lightened Lewis gun, and the M60 is more a return to form in thats its closer to being a Lewis gun with the MG42 feed tray. Funnily enough, with the MG42 itself, after the Germans went through so much trouble to make it out of stampings & cheap and fast to produce, when the Swiss adopted it they turned around and made it almost entirely out of finely made millings & switched the locking system to a more difficult one to manufacture(flapper instead of rollers, because of accuracy issues, rollers were the original choice due to ease of manufacture).
17:01 I'd say being in front of a tank is ill advised at all times, because tanks attract enemy fire like nothing else. You want to be right behind it, to use it as cover, or at respectful distance to not get mauled by explosion when RPG or Milan crashes into its armor.
4:21 The Mills Bomb the first ever modern hand grenade not to be in the shape of a stick like the german and french grenades of that era. The Mills Bomb was used in WW1 and an updated version was standard issued in ww2
21:50 During WW2 the MG34 was used in tanks due to the operator having easier access to the barrel of the weapon since all they have to do is twist the the body i believe counter clockwise and the whole thing rotates so you can do a barrel change in a confined metal coffin .
Correction, it was found the striations actually work better on the INSIDE of the grenade instead of the exterior, so they shell became smooth on the surface.
6:08 It has No. 36 Mk I stamped on the fuze / igniter mechanism cap, so yeah it's a Mill's Bomb. -To my knowledge there's no '36M,' but there was a variant called the "Mesopotamian" that was coated in shellac to water-proof the caps, so maybe it's that, or maybe it's just a fictional "future" version of the No. 36 Mk I.- Nevermind the No.36M was the latest version of the grenade. To my knowledge the British frag grenades from WWI to the early Cold War were all called "Mill's Bombs" because they were basically iterations of the same design.
the other thing is you can throw a offensive grenades in a room to clear it and be more certain that if your standing the the hall way out side your less likely to get fragmentation coming threw the walls
Most of the guns in the Fallout London mod are just other gun mods that were included, hence the difference in quality and accuracy between some of them.
The lewis gun uses a _cassette_ of ammunition and was designed to be an aircraft gunner's MG, thus the reason for the expensive as unfugbeliveaboutit aluminum barrel wrap heatsink and the tube that ducted air using flow created by the muzzle blast. iirc it was supposed to sport a 7 layer cassette with a side handle and glad-hand onto the top of the MG... I doubt that'd be easy in a 70mph slipstream of a spruce and glop biplane. Just about everything on and about it was designed to get the weight down and it STILL has one of the lightest per-round magazines even in the era of shaved p-mags. It fired the original freedom seeds as well.
I think the way the marines came to the Mark 21 grenades is, that they discovered aside from crayons the existence of sharpies and since you can stick sharpies together in to a long stick they thought, "hey imagine doing this with grenades lol" and thus the Mark 21 was born.
04:01 *Mills Bomb No.36M* The grenades crate had a fuses tin that was stored in the center. The No.36 was the 36th grenade design. The M stands for "Mesopotamian"; it was designed to withstand the heat and humidity of the British Mandate and Iraq.
Fun fact about MG-42. It's innovative barrel change mechanism was the reason why it actually DID NOT replace MG-34 as a main MG. For vechicle use, due to the fact that almost every tank had its MG mounted in such a way that the MG-42 system would render it unusable. So they had to keep producing the MG-34 with it tilt design. US used the M1918 .30 and Brits, contrary to all other major militaries decided that they will not use the standard infantry MG converted for vechicle use. Instead they used the BESA, that was not usable outside of the vechicle mount
So some of the clothing you'll get the option to upgrade after a certain point or level (I'm not sure which, may require finding a magazine/comic book) you can then modify clothing like that to have armor protection on par with a lot of the light and medium armors.
honestly, I think it's amazing how far Grenades have actually come and some of the rituals around them some troops have. the original grenade was just impact. and it was SUPER fucking dangerous to it's own users because of this. Grenadiers were expected to use them in line formation. but during both world wars and even a lot post them, Troops would put tape around their grenade out of paranoia that it'd just randomly lose the pin and BANG. it got so bad that the US began making the confidence clip....that's literally just a loop to make sure you don't accidentally pull the pin when holding it.
the plastic granade that connects basicly the idea is the more you connect the more powerful it is so I think it was like three put together could blow up a entire room while one could be a very scare flashbang don't entirely remember but think of it as less of a granade and more of the round exsplosives from robo cop. so depending on how many you put together or the number you set it at the stronger the blast. Its kinda smart why carry around a minture bomb when you can make one out of granades.
Zach Hazard, Ranter of Firearms and Explosives at the Mike Burnfire Channel on UA-cam, which houses a collection of thousands of iconic videos from video games, and today he's ranting about the grenades in Fallout London
Awesome remix, man. 👏😆
Wait, I recognize that intro.
He does have his own UA-cam channel.
The collab we all need
Please mike collab with jonathan
Just came back from the Army screwing me over. Definitely should’ve listened to Zach’s warning.
Sorry man, tried to warn you
Awe man hope it wasn't too bad, at least the free food once a year will be worth it right? Thanks anyway
You phrased that like they called in the middle of the night and we were here wondering where you've been all morning!
@Zach_Hazard ya did your best
Dumbass
Didn't know I needed a subgenre of weapon rants.
kinda want him to rant about military vehicles
11:50 Fun fact: the Italians had impact grenades in WW2. Apparently they were hated by both Italians and the allies. The Italians, because they weren't always the most reliable, and the allies because the ones that didn't go off were still really sensitive and basically became landmines. Italian grenades during WW2 were real interesting, and painted red.
they actually had at least 3 different handgrenades that are red and unreliable and basically became landmines wich is funny
They are pretty fun in enlisted
@@w4rd3n14 thats hilarious
Italians had several models of grenades during WW2, all of them painted red and all of them terrible and unreliable. You can say pretty much the same for most of Italy's infantry weapons during WW2, like an LMG fed through 20 round stripper clips.
@@kj_heichou Pretty much the only infantry weapons which weren't genuinely terrible were the Beretta Model 1934 and 1935 pistols, Beretta Model 38 submachine gun, and the Breda M37 medium machine gun. To the surprise of nobody, the Italians kept those guns around after the war.
The Breda M30 and Nambu Type 11 are bitterly fighting to not be last place as to who is the least worst of the two, but it's a close tie.
10:44 Of course the marines would adopt a grenade that they can click together like crayola markers and have swordfights with: One grenade makes boom, beeg grenade makes beeger boom
Now they can play wisest wizard with grenades
The jokes just write themselves don't they?
Duplo grenades for the military's special boys!
Hey, it is very useful feature. One can use stack of grenades as effective anti-personnel mine, and big stacks would fit nicely on fixed wing drones. With some future research, it could be possible to use grenade as breaching charge.
Finally
Chunchunmaru
"Retirement grenade", now that's something even more American than burgers.
Pith helmets are very water absorbing, so when dry absorb sweat but more helpfully is you can soak them in water which helps keep the head cooler for longer.
That is interesting! I didn’t know that
I believe they were basically lined or made with a cork like material.
Yeah, and the domes are high to keep warm air farther from the head.
Mail carriers sometimes still wear white plastic or mesh versions of these on their routes in some areas as it's really great at keeping you and whatever chicken scratch label you're trying to decipher somewhat clear of the rain or baking while carrying an ungodly amount of junk mail in your bag (Wrapping a towel and some rubberbands around the bag's strap is a godsend).
Sometimes you'll even see folks stuff plastic shopping bags or wash cloths in them to help with the heat or staying a little warmer and it helps since the foam inserts that they come with never last long, I know the maries used them for a little bit for the first couple of years in the afgan war before that got changed out.
Guess that explains why it's thematic in Africa, given the immense heat. I usually see them on hunters, which makes sense, but also some military there as well, if I recall that right.
2:30 Actually the heavy blasters used by stormtroopers were made from MG-34s, not MG-42s. There were also heavy blasters made from Lewis guns and MG-15s as well.
That’s my bad, I knew it was the mg34 but when I’m holding a mg42 my brain keeps repeating mg42.
@@Zach_HazardI think the scout troopers actually used the 42 for their sniper, though I could be remembering incorrectly.
The funny thing with the Lewis gun being used as a heavy blaster was that the only thing they did to make it sci-fi was just... remove that magazine, that's it, that's all they did to it.
@@zachberger5175 You're sort of correct. The Imperial Scout Troopers had the E-11S as their sniper rifle, but what that rifle actually looks like keeps changing. Some official content has it as more MG-34 inspired, while others show it to be more like a long "sniper-ized" Sterling SMG. And then the original Battlefront game, the first thing it ever appeared in, has it as literally just an MG-42 with a scope.
New canon appears to have settled on the "long Sterling" design, but yeah in old canon you are correct that it's based on the MG-42. Sometimes. Depending on the weather and where Jupiter is in relation to Mars.
@ Interesting.
16:40 White Phosphorous produces not only a lot of smoke _very fast_ but more importantly, that smoke is very hot which masks the Tank from Thermal Imaging
It also produces war crimes.
I wonder if Zach would be interested in this, I have an old defusal training kit from Vietnam. Loaded with different inert explosive devices like grenades, mines, etc. used to teach soldiers how to defuse explosive ordinance. Still has the manuals and paperwork.
My grandad was a military surplus hoarder.
That’s cool as hell
nah bro give that to me i need that
@@Zach_Hazard I inherited so much stuff from my grandad, he was a Korean war vet. Funny thing is, my dad was supposed to inherit it but my grandad caught him talking shit about him and left most of his stuff to me out of spite.
You forgot a couple of other things for neon lights. Some sort of vacuum apparatus for partial vacuum, and a some chemistry and engineering knowledge to isolate and mix various noble gasses to get different colors.
Edit: I initially stated that to get other colors, one would have to use fluorescent compounds that coat the inside of the tube. I think my initial mix up was maybe thinking that fluorescent lights might be used in conjunction with neon lighting. Or maybe my reasoning is that to amplify certain colors, one would also have to use said compounds. Or just mixing up neon and fluorescent lighting. Fun fact: many led lights also use fluorescent coatings for similar reasons to fluorescent lights. Both led and fluorescent lights emit only certain wavelengths of light, so to get other colors (or to get any useful lighting), the fluorescent coating absorbs those initial wavelengths and re-emits as other wavelengths.
I've never heard of that last one, only using different gasses for different colors
@@tehRedRunner I've edited my initial comment to correct for that and added contextual info.
I have a Lee Enfield specifically modified to launch grenades. The barrel is cut down, there's a cup muzzle device to hold the grenade, the stock is wrapped in wire to reinforce it, and the magazine is painted red to indicate it should be loaded with blanks.
You have the jawa rifle
That's a rare piece of equipment!
IIRC to launch the grenade guy using this version of LE had to crouch and position the weapon in specific way (buttstock against heel of one foot, barrel on the calf of the other leg, cup above knee with magazine side of the gun pointing upwards)
@PobortzaPl Actually no, not rare. They were being sold as a batch item, so the pic you saw on the website wasn't the gun you'll be getting
@wallythewondercorncake8657 the good old times of military surplus being plentiful!
@PobortzaPl It was 2021...
you unlock ballistic weave after doing a few Roundel quests in Hackney, one of the isolated subsections in the north
I think either Zach himself, Ian McCollum, or Jonathan Ferguson (etc, etc) mentioned this, but the barrel-change mechanism on the MG-42 was designed so that you'd use either a round or a spent shell casing to pull the hot barrel out, so you wouldn't have to burn the crap out of yourself. I remember SOMEONE mentioned that in a video, I just don't remember who...
Ian (Gun Jesus) did it himself in a video about the MG-42. Jonathan Ferguson talked about it in a Battlefield video. So, both of them did.
Either Gun Rant 2 or 6.
I feel like using a live round to remove a red-hot metal tube would be a bad idea, considering there's a non-zero chance the round detonates in your hand from the heat
@@BeesechurgerProductions Yeah, that is true.
@@BeesechurgerProductions reasons why using spent casings were popular?
- i do wonder how hot things get when whole round is used... seems like it'd be pretty hot but it's fairly short term contact with a very hot thing via a somewhat mismatched metal shape? that's going to be a small contact surface no? (-as everyone thought before a few folk lost fingerss, perhaps?)
The british armoury guy from the youtube channel also talked about these guns. He was kinda disgusted at the lewish gun
Lol, is "Lewish" deliberate?
@@barthvader95 No, it was a typo but I'll leave it. 😔
@@Leckaine Hey, it works. It's a Lew-ish gun after all, not a proper Lewis, apparently :P
@@Leckaine I actually commented on that video calling it a Lew-ish gun lol
@@wallythewondercorncake8657 lol
The Lewis Gun was renamed to "Machine Rifle" in the most recent patch.
Aw hell nah 💀
SOMEONE GET THIS MAN A VR HEADSET ALREADY SO HE CAN PLAY H3VR!!!!
I got one the other day. I’m trying to get over the motion sickness and figure out how to use it
@Zach_Hazard oof, that's quite a hurdle. Idk what advice I could give to help mitigate motion sickness that you probably already know. Good to hear you have one tho! Can't wait for the H3VR series
@@Zach_Hazard Great to hear. H3VR is an amazing VR game and it has so many guns to play with... then there are mods!
@@Zach_HazardI suggest doing a few stationary sit-down type games to acclimate, H3 and other free-moving games can be a lot at the start.
The "I Expect You to Die" series is really funny and pretty easy on the stomach.
@@ToastyMozart That's how I got past that hurdle. Did lots of Beat Saber and messed about in VRChat with teleport controls. Slowly acclimated to natural movement, and now I can't imagine playing something like Blade and Sorcery without natural movement.
Funnily enough about the "potato masher" comparison, a Chinese man used a wood handle stick grenade to smash open walnuts for 25 years.
I assume it blew up in year 26.
First, we got gun rants, then military stories, and now we are blessed with grenade rants.
I would put forward that white phosphorus is more than “smoke.” Yes, it is used in smoke grenades because the stuff creates a lot of smoke. White phosphorus also reaches a temperature of 1400 degrees or more on contact with oxygen, and it has a nasty habit of sticking to things like exposed skin and bronchial tubes.
Can't be ninjas in London, Just ask the Teenage Mutant Hero Turtles.
I get this reference.
Yeah, and Michaelangelo has to fight with bare hands instead of nunchaku there.
One of my biggest gripes during fnv was that we have all these people milling about not doing anything in freeside, but house or any of the big wigs couldn't be fucked to pay any of the loiterers to clean up the mountains of trash everywhere. Or hell, have robots do it.
Yeah, it's annoying. On the other hand, it would look really weird if you had a super clean city in fallout at this point
That's true, but it might've hammered home the point of new Vegas being the glittering jewel of the majove. @@Airsickword
@@declanthompson441 also true.
here's a thought, often when level designers are privy to the story they try to tell a story with the enviroment. the rubble and ruin and trash littered around can represent many things. poverty, corruption, etc
its probably the reason in all official titles that no place is 100% factory new or washed down. (even the institute was mostly just a show off in its main chamber with most areas, mainly backrooms, being run down and dirty asf.
it also gives a sort of consistent theme; no matter how hard you fight to improve in the wasteland, you never fully escape from it.
There were trash piles on the strip? Where?
@@Arwilus Freeside. It's just a part of the strip in my mind.
Fun facts on the Lewis Gun. Savage Arm was the US manufacturer. There are three main variants of the Lewis Gun, the MK I, II, III. The MK I is the one we see the most. The MK II/III are reworked for aircraft use. The MK II shrinks down the barrel shroud to the point where the muzzle is clearly out in front, like the one you find. And then both dropped the stock for hand grips and the ammo pan is enlarged to 97 rounds from old 47 pan. Then the MK III drops the barrel shroud altogether.
0:46 that botherd me about fallout in general. People live in a permanent settlement but can't be bothered to clean it up. I talked to a friend about this once and he insisted that cleaning up the place you live in would be such a low priority in a dangerous place that people would live in filth for generations
16:47 During WW2, both sides carried special "smoke" shells (WP) in their tanks. This smoke was intended to be fired at another enemy tank to blind it. Also, if the hatches were open, it'd royally screw up the soldiers inside. Furthermore, any infantry within 30m or so of the tank hit with one of these, would not be a happy camper. During the Battle of the Bulge, there's a engagement where an American M10 Tank Destroyer was engaged at long range by a Tiger (often mistakenly reported as being a Tiger II) tank that had placed itself on a ridge looking down on the M10's position. The M10 crew fired a smoke shell at it, hitting the Tiger squarely in the front, and then promptly repositioned their vehicle. They weren't trying to KILL the Tiger, but just make it stop shooting at them.
Fun fact, the Russian army as well as some other Eastern European armies still use offensive and defensive grenades, the RGO (Ruchnaya Granata Oboronitel'naya) and RGN (Ruchnaya Granata Nastupatel'naya)
"what's actually on there is like a cone."
Oh yeah, i forgot that the MG-42 is one of the guns that came with a loudener.
In soviet army the lethal radius of offensive grenade was considered at around 15 meters while the lethal radius of defensive grenade was at around 200 meters ie maximum range at which a piece of shrapnel could be lethal. The defensive grenade as such was considered safe only to be used from cover like trench because you can't throw it far enough so that it would GUARANTEE your safety.
However the reality and regulations rarely met in the field.
Mills Bomb is right yes , Zach
Yes and it was used in WWI before it was used in WWII!
2:08 I love hearing Chrono Trigger sound effects in the wild
18:59 Looks like the Fo4 "Assault Rifle" is so horrendously designed you can't even use it's assets to make a decent Lewis Gun out of it...
9:07 fun fact, the Germans had a fragmentation sleeve they could put on the grenades to turn them into fragmentation grenades (however, I think they were seldom used)
i could listen to zach info dump all day
Those grenade sticks remind me of sticking all the crayola markers together to make a sword in elementary school..
21:25 in the austrian army we were taught to always pull the charging handle to the rear and move it back forward even if the bolt already was to the rear, you swapped belts, changed barrel or anything like that.
14:26 Zach do you feel like a hero?
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@@ZTMachine1 spec ops: the line
@@AlTheJuggernaut ahhhhhhhhhhhh, thanks
in the french army we still have both types of grenades, what my dad told me (when he was taught during his military service) was that an offensive grenade has a kill/injure radius smaller than the distance you can throw it, so in a flat terrain with no cover between you and the enemy you can be "safe" (nor really) but at least "fine", a "defensive" grenade is a grenade with a kill radius bigger than the range you can throw it so you NEED to have cover to use it (aka you need to "defend" yourself from your own grenade), at boot camp they where authorised to trow one (old stock) and they did so behind a 1m thick concrete wall (waist high) and my dad told me he could hear the shrapnel zip above his head and the impact on the concrete where similar to bullet impacts (if you want more fun stories from my dad's experience in the military as a mechanic in the "alpine hunters" to tell)
sarcoidosis is the thing you have. The weird leg problem that you had while serving time in the army. Not a common known thing till about 2013
Zach's autism never gets old.
Zach becomes the Demo-man in this episode.
Gun Ideas to Annoy Zach™️: waffle grenade….
I’m hungry
Disk shaped explosive devices that aren’t landmines!
@@wesleyeberly228 Yeah, basically... Again I was hungry when trying to come up with something.
The 9mm pistol (Browning Hi-Power) from Fallout: New Vegas should have been in that mod. They should have also kept the Lewis Gun exactly like its real-life counterpart.
The T44 machine gun wasn't made in 1944.
The T21 and T21-b blasters were based on the Lewis gun as well. The T21 basically being a Lewis without the pan on top, and the T21-B having a larger round barrel, and 2 separate scopes where the pan magazine goes.
11:00 Mad Bomber perk unlocked
Way back when I was a Gun Bunny (Paladin), our load was to consist of our standard rounds, ammo bags, .50 cal (usually) or Mk. 19 (also acceptable) rounds, and 3 THERMITE grenades. The reason being, if we ever had to do a "hasty evac" our our gun, we would place 1 thermite 'nade on the engine block, the gun breech, and the computer inside to fry things while we made our withdrawl.
If we "had time", we were to load a Comp-B RAP round with a fuze set to "PD" BACKWARDS into the breech with a super-8 redbag behind (in front of?), grab the 100-yard lanyarnd, then pull it, and go.
Damn, I love thermite. If you place it on the right thing, it kinda feeds itself, lol
Okay for that Lewis gun when he first pulled it out it looks like they strapped parts of a Lewis gun to the wooden furnishings and trigger mechanism of an Italian Beretta M38 SMG.
On a second look and I could be talking out of my ass but it also looks like it has the gas system of a Hotchkiss M1914 Heavy Machine Gun.
I love when you can hear Zach lean forward a bit to point something out to Mike on the gun he’s talking about
0:50 THANK YOU ZACH I first had this thought in Fallout 4 with the absolute ridiculous logic in what was scrappable and what wasn't
The stackable grenades would make for one hell of a Bangalore. Maybe that's what they had in mind?
The Lewis gun was also used as a Blaster in some of the Star Wars movies, they took the mag off and stuck like, binoculars onto it as a scope.
Man 16 seconds a new personal best
Zach needs a V-40 for his grenade collection!
Thank god the Fallout London mod dropped, so much more Zack Rants
Obi-Wan Kenobi’s original Lightsaber hilt was made from a No.3 Mk1 WW1 British Rifle Grenade.
3:56 Mills Bomb is the name of the British WW2 grenade. I think specifically the modeled after the No. 23 based on the pin and spoon shape
Nice to get the iconic Stielhandgranate mentioned by Americans, very cool!
The "ummmm AcTuAlLy" is strong in the comments
I love you guys, started playing new vegas cause of yall, it cured my depression! thank you 🖖
MG34 was what they used for the DLT-19. Grenade is, indeed, the Mills Bomb.
The Marines got Lego grenades to go with their crayon packs, unbelievable.
Offensive grenades lethal range is less than the throwing range so you don't need to hide behind cover. Defensive grenades lethal range exceed the throwing range so you need to be behind cover to avoid being hit with frag.
The reason you would want to be able to attach grenades together, is because if you set one off the others will also go off. It allows troops to use grenades as IED's with a much higher yield than the individual grenades going off.
If you have a bunch of small explosions going off separately, the individual blast waves interfere with each other. If you get them to all go off together the resulting blast is significantly larger.
Best description of the FN MAG is that it is a BAR shoved upside down in a 1919 reciever that then had an MG42 feed system & FCG grafted on.
The FG42 was also just mechanically a lightened Lewis gun, and the M60 is more a return to form in thats its closer to being a Lewis gun with the MG42 feed tray.
Funnily enough, with the MG42 itself, after the Germans went through so much trouble to make it out of stampings & cheap and fast to produce, when the Swiss adopted it they turned around and made it almost entirely out of finely made millings & switched the locking system to a more difficult one to manufacture(flapper instead of rollers, because of accuracy issues, rollers were the original choice due to ease of manufacture).
You forgot to mention that Han Solo's blaster that he famously blew Greedo away with was a dressed-up Mauser C96 pistol.
Funny you mention it, because the contemporary German DM51 grenade is still an offense/defensive style with detachable frag sleeve on them.
Tank commanders believe that the crunchy’s can have some white phosphorus as a treat
17:01 I'd say being in front of a tank is ill advised at all times, because tanks attract enemy fire like nothing else. You want to be right behind it, to use it as cover, or at respectful distance to not get mauled by explosion when RPG or Milan crashes into its armor.
4:21 The Mills Bomb the first ever modern hand grenade not to be in the shape of a stick like the german and french grenades of that era. The Mills Bomb was used in WW1 and an updated version was standard issued in ww2
Zach talking about the inert grenades he owns is like the Marge simpson potatoe meme " I just think they're neat"
21:50 During WW2 the MG34 was used in tanks due to the operator having easier access to the barrel of the weapon since all they have to do is twist the the body i believe counter clockwise and the whole thing rotates so you can do a barrel change in a confined metal coffin .
Good to see Zach holds off on his rants to force Mike to give him money to buy guns.
That small lever on the Lewis gun is the air compression lever of a pellet gun.
Correction, it was found the striations actually work better on the INSIDE of the grenade instead of the exterior, so they shell became smooth on the surface.
Mike is the friend none of us deserve, but we all need.
Zach might be a guns build, but he still has enough points in science and explosives to have these kind of rants
You need to work with the Roundels to unlock Ballistic Weave.
4:42 When life gives me lemons, I don't make lemonade, I'm MAD like Cave Johnson, I got LEMON GRENADES!
I have a inert potato masher. And I love showing my friends and "accidentally pull the tab" to see their reactions.
6:08 It has No. 36 Mk I stamped on the fuze / igniter mechanism cap, so yeah it's a Mill's Bomb. -To my knowledge there's no '36M,' but there was a variant called the "Mesopotamian" that was coated in shellac to water-proof the caps, so maybe it's that, or maybe it's just a fictional "future" version of the No. 36 Mk I.- Nevermind the No.36M was the latest version of the grenade.
To my knowledge the British frag grenades from WWI to the early Cold War were all called "Mill's Bombs" because they were basically iterations of the same design.
the other thing is you can throw a offensive grenades in a room to clear it and be more certain that if your standing the the hall way out side your less likely to get fragmentation coming threw the walls
Is the Lewis gun made from bits of the fallout 4 assault rifle maybe? Hence the water jacket?
mike you absolutely have to go back and get hans' service weapon. itd drive him crazy.
2:30 The heavy blasters used by the clones and storm troopers is actually an MG-34
Funnily enough, I learned about Defensive and Offensive grenades while looking up why there are Two almost identical impact grenades in tarkov
Most of the guns in the Fallout London mod are just other gun mods that were included, hence the difference in quality and accuracy between some of them.
Yeah, but the Lewis gun in particular was made for Fallout London. Just like, for example, the EM-2 or the Chinese Pistol.
Okay, that's weird. Why is Lewis gun so inaccurate then?
@nikoladedic6623 Do I look like have any idea?
The lewis gun uses a _cassette_ of ammunition and was designed to be an aircraft gunner's MG, thus the reason for the expensive as unfugbeliveaboutit aluminum barrel wrap heatsink and the tube that ducted air using flow created by the muzzle blast. iirc it was supposed to sport a 7 layer cassette with a side handle and glad-hand onto the top of the MG... I doubt that'd be easy in a 70mph slipstream of a spruce and glop biplane. Just about everything on and about it was designed to get the weight down and it STILL has one of the lightest per-round magazines even in the era of shaved p-mags. It fired the original freedom seeds as well.
You should open a grenade museum with your collection, dude. Now, THATS a retirement plan.
"Offensive grenades aren't super popular anymore"
Kid named RGD-5:
00:50 working lights, but the no one figured out how to use a broom?
Sounds like electricians survived the nuclear war.
21:48
I think they moved to the MG3 which is in 7.62x51 nato. And is basically just a modernized MG42
I think the way the marines came to the Mark 21 grenades is, that they discovered aside from crayons the existence of sharpies and since you can stick sharpies together in to a long stick they thought, "hey imagine doing this with grenades lol" and thus the Mark 21 was born.
In the first mission of the old Modern Warfare 3 you use nine bangers
TIL the smoke grenades in CS2 are white phosphorous grenades.
04:01 *Mills Bomb No.36M*
The grenades crate had a fuses tin that was stored in the center.
The No.36 was the 36th grenade design. The M stands for "Mesopotamian"; it was designed to withstand the heat and humidity of the British Mandate and Iraq.
Fun fact about MG-42. It's innovative barrel change mechanism was the reason why it actually DID NOT replace MG-34 as a main MG. For vechicle use, due to the fact that almost every tank had its MG mounted in such a way that the MG-42 system would render it unusable. So they had to keep producing the MG-34 with it tilt design.
US used the M1918 .30 and Brits, contrary to all other major militaries decided that they will not use the standard infantry MG converted for vechicle use. Instead they used the BESA, that was not usable outside of the vechicle mount
It's not about knowing how to use a broom; it's about not wanting to clean up half a destroyed building with one.
So some of the clothing you'll get the option to upgrade after a certain point or level (I'm not sure which, may require finding a magazine/comic book) you can then modify clothing like that to have armor protection on par with a lot of the light and medium armors.
honestly, I think it's amazing how far Grenades have actually come and some of the rituals around them some troops have.
the original grenade was just impact. and it was SUPER fucking dangerous to it's own users because of this. Grenadiers were expected to use them in line formation.
but during both world wars and even a lot post them, Troops would put tape around their grenade out of paranoia that it'd just randomly lose the pin and BANG. it got so bad that the US began making the confidence clip....that's literally just a loop to make sure you don't accidentally pull the pin when holding it.
the plastic granade that connects basicly the idea is the more you connect the more powerful it is so I think it was like three put together could blow up a entire room while one could be a very scare flashbang don't entirely remember but think of it as less of a granade and more of the round exsplosives from robo cop. so depending on how many you put together or the number you set it at the stronger the blast. Its kinda smart why carry around a minture bomb when you can make one out of granades.
The rare variant of a gun rant