Kyle Bass: The China Conundrum ft. Erik Bethel

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  • @RealVisionFinance
    @RealVisionFinance  Рік тому +9

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    CHAPTERS
    1 Erik's Background and Life in China 00:55
    2 Erik's Time at World Bank 0:10:35
    3 On Erik's Nomination to Serve as a U.S. Ambassador to Panama and Learnings from the U.S. Southern Border 0:30:49
    4 What to Expect from President Biden and Xi Jinping's Upcoming Meeting 0:45:28

    • @wasdwasdedsf
      @wasdwasdedsf Рік тому

      of course the fact is that trump did win the electio

  • @jonathonwagner2166
    @jonathonwagner2166 Рік тому +62

    Priceless. An interview EVERY American should listen to.

    • @Orcalein7367
      @Orcalein7367 11 місяців тому +1

      Granted, but why is there less than 30,000 views ?

    • @gmw3083
      @gmw3083 11 місяців тому

      ​@@Orcalein7367 Because the American dream is built on the framework of colonialism. The rest of the earths population has had enough of it. Kiss the dream goodbye and welcome the nightmare....

    • @jinfrank9311
      @jinfrank9311 11 місяців тому

      @@Orcalein7367US officials don’t want u to watch this type of things. Both Biden and Trump took tons of money from China

    • @marclefebvre7071
      @marclefebvre7071 3 місяці тому

      Erik and Kyle are great Americans. They love this country and they are our best and brightest. They need to take their message across America. These podcasts are not enough. Sadly, American capitalism created the threat, which is China now, but we have to deal with it, and once all Americans understand what is happening, America will be on the offensive.

  • @FoxtrotYouniform
    @FoxtrotYouniform 9 місяців тому +2

    This should have every eye in the western world viewing it. Great talk, gentlemen, thank you both.

  • @jackoneill8456
    @jackoneill8456 11 місяців тому +12

    This interview should be included in the education system as a requirement .. The issues that confront global interaction in today's world are discussed.

  • @aint_just_whistlin_dixie
    @aint_just_whistlin_dixie Рік тому +25

    That was a very eye-opening & useful interview. The degree to which China has been gaming the international system set up by the US by, for example, their receipt of World Bank funds, is jaw-dropping. Will definitely be bookmarking & watching this again, thanks.

    • @hdvoice
      @hdvoice Рік тому +5

      Then go change the rules. Isn’t that what the system is for. Don’t complain when someone beats you at your own game.

    • @ayambo3281
      @ayambo3281 Рік тому +4

      World bank give loans not freebies

    • @heidegger71
      @heidegger71 11 місяців тому

      @@hdvoice thank you Captain Obvious. But you're missing the point. Cheating the intended rules of the system is what China excels at. It' s sort of like when you put a bowl of candy out at Halloween and one kid takes the whole bowl, so then you have to change everything. And it will just keep happening at every where this kid goes.

  • @805drifter
    @805drifter 9 місяців тому +2

    As a reasonable republican, this interview was excellent. You don’t hear reasonable people talking on the news these days. Thank you for the video.

  • @donniemoder1466
    @donniemoder1466 Рік тому +17

    Technically, Barak Obama's father was not an immigrant, he was a visiting student and moved back to Kenya when his studies ended.

  • @paulmeier3462
    @paulmeier3462 Рік тому +11

    I've been around China and the Chinese for over 20 years and this totally makes sense. They exist in a highly bureaucratic system where you survive by working around it, so if you give them something like the World Bank they will just do the same. We would have a moral problem with that but they wouldn't. To them it's how you survive and they would see it as smart not wrong.

    • @Aengrod
      @Aengrod 11 місяців тому +3

      Morality in international relations? Ha ha ha.

    • @jonathangushen7000
      @jonathangushen7000 11 місяців тому

      It also is not dishonorable to lie to your enemy. 56:19

    • @jiancao1523
      @jiancao1523 11 місяців тому

      Different moral compass

  • @davidlai399
    @davidlai399 Рік тому +51

    Kyle Bass loss 95% of his bet against China only two years ago. In the meantime, China has become the biggest automaker in the world, displacing Japan. Trust him at your own risk.

    • @boysom
      @boysom Рік тому +6

      his receding hair line tells the truth.

    • @hlleung
      @hlleung Рік тому +5

      Do you trust the winnie the pooh or the last king of Ming Dynasty in China. The CCP just banned the book to talk about the last king of Ming Dynasty in ancient China. CCP is just alike end of Ming Dynasty now

    • @TikTok-nj2kh
      @TikTok-nj2kh Рік тому +9

      These guys made their wealth off commissions, regardless of the outcomes.

    • @hlleung
      @hlleung Рік тому

      China was usually strong until the current Winnie the Pooh leader of CCP rules over China. Their last proficient ex prime minster died suddenly. Now , their current PM of CCP is just a loyalist and non competent person who carried the Winnie the Pooh's strict order to lock down Shanghai in Covid era. Also give you an hint that the CCP just ban the book to talk about the last emperor of Ancient China dynasty -Ming Dynasty

    • @hdvoice
      @hdvoice Рік тому +7

      ⁠@@hlleungBring in data not some random books to make your points.

  • @k.k.c8670
    @k.k.c8670 Рік тому +18

    Except that for decades, America has exchanged paper/printed dollar for actual goods. And even those dollars have been loaned back to America to support a lifestyle beyond its means.

    • @Wise101
      @Wise101 6 місяців тому

      That's the price paid for securing the global oceans since WW2.

    • @k.k.c8670
      @k.k.c8670 6 місяців тому

      @@Wise101 price has already been paid 10 times over. Time to stop the US from abusing that.

  • @artinterhakopian9684
    @artinterhakopian9684 Рік тому +18

    China is simply not afraid. Honestly, I'm not sure if they have any reason to be. After all, frntanyl comes in because many Americans are using it. We need to get our act together.

    • @huskydogg7536
      @huskydogg7536 11 місяців тому +2

      Agreed and that goes for both sides of the aisle. This do nothing Congress is going to end up allowing and enabling a terroristic disaster.

    • @herman9255
      @herman9255 11 місяців тому +3

      US needs to enact laws like Singapore

    • @kshen7485
      @kshen7485 11 місяців тому +1

      @@huskydogg7536​​⁠Any way, complaining China is nowadays America’s fashion. Everything wrong is China’s fault because it has a different regime from America.

    • @huskydogg7536
      @huskydogg7536 11 місяців тому +1

      @@kshen7485 Well China does make 95% of the fentanyl so who else's fault would it be? And they've been asked to stop exporting so much several times...

    • @kshen7485
      @kshen7485 11 місяців тому

      @@huskydogg7536 Who believe your “95%”, a typical western one-side story? For example, alone USA declared 13 wars with massive killings after WWII while so many other countries have been condemned by your west as “genocide” and USA was made up as democratic saver. No shame!

  • @mikedevere
    @mikedevere Рік тому +5

    Excellent points- really hope this message gets broad publicity

  • @minle8702
    @minle8702 Рік тому +3

    Kyle Bass worth every second
    Great exposé on how as Americans we are getting played by the current ineffective governance.

  • @schoond
    @schoond Рік тому +8

    Wrt to Chinese immigrants, you guys are missing that most Chinese cannot get a US tourist visa or a visa of any kind unless they are wealthy or have business reasons or have travelled a lot. So the southern border is the only option of the 2 you’ve laid out.

    • @norrispg4212
      @norrispg4212 20 днів тому

      Or, UNLESS they are acting on behalf of Beijing.

  • @edland8778
    @edland8778 Рік тому +13

    Highly fascinating info, thank you for this recording to both of you!

  • @capt.martin5169
    @capt.martin5169 5 місяців тому

    Great Info!! Thank you both so very much. Shows and channels like Real Vision are the only true sources of honest information and the world depends on guys Like Kyle and Erik to provide this most important information, thanks again!!!

  • @amraceway
    @amraceway 11 місяців тому +11

    China is still the benchmark for economic development. Socialism with Chinese characteristics has worked, the results are undeniable.

  • @pauljeffery7658
    @pauljeffery7658 11 місяців тому +5

    Amazing conversation.

  • @petermathieson5692
    @petermathieson5692 11 місяців тому +4

    Very worthwhile interview

  • @waybrenda
    @waybrenda Рік тому +6

    What a great interview!

  • @aaronsabel
    @aaronsabel 11 місяців тому +1

    Reasonable and thoughtful criticism, an important conversation. Well done.

  • @GregBman
    @GregBman 11 місяців тому +2

    Based on open source info, China hasn’t been approved for loans from the WB since 2020. But the money the did get is sloshing around most assuredly was used to further its interests around the world.

  • @seanc846
    @seanc846 Рік тому +5

    Great interview. 🎉

  • @cqsun7
    @cqsun7 Рік тому +14

    Once he bound himself with miles Guo. You know he is finished

  • @peterdorahy8331
    @peterdorahy8331 Рік тому +14

    Such a great and interesting interview thank you Kyle

  • @jiancao1523
    @jiancao1523 11 місяців тому

    Eric had profound understanding of Chinese way and Ccp manuals. His observation of the change of China will help the US to win the battle of civilization, law and order in the world.

  • @andrewvare3173
    @andrewvare3173 Рік тому +9

    Couldn't agree with you more, Kyle. Thanks for the talk.

  • @andrewsema359
    @andrewsema359 Рік тому +7

    Another great interview by Kyle. Thanks RV

  • @Utah_Johnny
    @Utah_Johnny Рік тому +2

    You do understand what's going on. We all understand what's going on.

  • @A4Skyhawk1
    @A4Skyhawk1 Рік тому +9

    Please make this public!!!!

  • @BigPictureYT
    @BigPictureYT Рік тому +5

    Excellent!

  • @blafonovision4342
    @blafonovision4342 11 місяців тому +3

    The WB/IMF should be disbanded.

    • @bigrootbigroot8237
      @bigrootbigroot8237 10 місяців тому

      And the WTO, WHO, and all United Nations organizations.

  • @Jonathan-m8n
    @Jonathan-m8n 6 місяців тому

    Thank u n i salute u for ur service

  • @jbwentworthe6082
    @jbwentworthe6082 11 місяців тому +5

    The FBI should close down their investigations of the Catholic Church and find the 20+thousand missing street people from San Francisco.

  • @tomcraver9659
    @tomcraver9659 11 місяців тому +1

    Both parties are so caught up in competition with each other, that they can't focus on taking care of the country once elected.

  • @charlesg7937
    @charlesg7937 Рік тому +6

    Heartbreaking

  • @themapleland
    @themapleland 11 місяців тому +4

    If criminals at prison can be forced to work or learn instead of being fed like animals for doing nothing, US might be able to cut crime rates.

    • @agaragar21
      @agaragar21 11 місяців тому

      no...thats not how anything works !!!!

  • @robinsonshawqx
    @robinsonshawqx Рік тому +3

    Y'all consistently regurgitating anti China rhetorics and no substance. Where are the concrete examples of your claims?

    • @blafonovision4342
      @blafonovision4342 11 місяців тому

      What’s wrong with regurgitating anti-China rhetoric? The PRC has declared itself the enemy of the USA.

  • @francisng7447
    @francisng7447 Рік тому +8

    CCP is the greatest risk to the human kind.

    • @robinsonshawqx
      @robinsonshawqx Рік тому +3

      Cry about it.

    • @francisng7447
      @francisng7447 11 місяців тому +1

      @@robinsonshawqx you just have to see the polls from the western countries how they feel about China to find the answer.

    • @robinsonshawqx
      @robinsonshawqx 11 місяців тому +2

      @@francisng7447 Right, because it's only the western polls that matter.

    • @kshen7485
      @kshen7485 11 місяців тому +1

      @@robinsonshawqx ⁠​​⁠Any way, complaining and condemning China is nowadays America’s fashion. Everything wrong in the west is China’s fault only because it has a different and successful system from America? Or peaceful China really undermines or threatens American hegemony?

  • @sanjayavarma1557
    @sanjayavarma1557 11 місяців тому +1

    Amazing. Truly shows Greed of Wall Street

  • @robertoluis9238
    @robertoluis9238 Рік тому +6

    COOL KYLE, SUCH A SOURCE OF TOP FLIGHT OPINION.
    THANKS

  • @xiaonivlz3277
    @xiaonivlz3277 11 місяців тому +5

    The Chinese have successfully developed a model to assist with construction in third-world countries, which has also greatly benefited themselves. If you truly wish to support developing countries, you should express significant gratitude towards China.

    • @samtioh
      @samtioh 11 місяців тому

      Didn’t you hear that China is taking world bank money to pretend helping the African countries and propaganda it

    • @taylorbaker2695
      @taylorbaker2695 11 місяців тому

      True

  • @michael1111111100
    @michael1111111100 Рік тому +2

    If you believe US and China is in a competition, why do you expect to receive benefits and fair treatment in China? Would Pepsi do anything favorable to Coca-Cola? Why are you this childish and naive?

    • @tarkm-u6m
      @tarkm-u6m 3 місяці тому

      Only cn person would write smt like this

  • @qingzhou9983
    @qingzhou9983 Рік тому +19

    Erik's problem is his view is only from What does US get out of World Bank, not what the poor country gets out of the World Bank. Otherwise he will agree the fact that for the poor Africa Country China's Belt and Road is almost the only game in town for their infrastructure. And China won 38% of World Bank projects mostly because their low cost and experience.

    • @IndependenceCityMotoring
      @IndependenceCityMotoring Рік тому +1

      Found the Wumao.

    • @samwalton4598
      @samwalton4598 Рік тому +2

      As well as he should, As the American TaxPayer underwrites the loans from the WB directly through the treasury. So each American is a creditor to all WB customers. So why wouldn’t he have an American perspective? And bias? Dumb premise!

    • @qingzhou9983
      @qingzhou9983 Рік тому +13

      @@samwalton4598
      Because US perspective is not World Bank's Goal. To measure World Bank you should use World Bank's Goal. HE claimed World Bank is a Noble Institution. But then he was criticizing World Bank for doing its Job. This is called Hypocrisy.
      Whether US taxpayer should support World Bank, this is a different topic. He should either support World Bank's Noble Goal Or come out and say US should control World Bank and use it for US purpose.

    • @tuckerbugeater
      @tuckerbugeater 11 місяців тому

      The Chinese are used to authoritarian rule. @@qingzhou9983

    • @bigrootbigroot8237
      @bigrootbigroot8237 10 місяців тому

      Erik’s problem was not with the world bank’s mission. It was with China using the world bank to trap developing countries into bad loans that the world bank will have to help pay back. He also has a problem with China being the 2nd biggest economy still getting categorized as a developing country and gaming the system setup to help developing countries.

  • @misubi
    @misubi Рік тому +16

    This felt more like a political persuasive piece, not in the content per se but the presentation. Their focus seemed to be on promoting political right American ideals.

  • @flyingdutchman2649
    @flyingdutchman2649 11 місяців тому

    Awesome conversation. However, wanted to point out on why some Chinese would go to South America, mainly because in tourist visa for Chinese citizens entering US is very strict, it usually requires a lot of process such as proof of property ownership etc. many South American countries are visa free for Chinese citizens.

    • @JoanneLeon
      @JoanneLeon 11 місяців тому +1

      A quick Google search shows US State Dept figures: 91% of Chinese citizens business/tourism visas were approved last year.

  • @qingzhou9983
    @qingzhou9983 Рік тому +9

    By Kyle's logic, China should sell all its US bonds because the money could go into US military around Taiwan.
    This type of logic should only be used in War situation, not the peace time competition.

    • @wasdwasdedsf
      @wasdwasdedsf Рік тому

      do china give wellfare to third world countries of with which funds they use to pay back their unfair loans to the US to?

  • @R1019-l7x
    @R1019-l7x 11 місяців тому

    Just WOW, Thank you!

  • @RobWilliams007
    @RobWilliams007 Рік тому +3

    And China will just repossess all of those projects and own those countries.

  • @georgegale6084
    @georgegale6084 Рік тому +1

    Thanks.

  • @michaelcorey9890
    @michaelcorey9890 11 місяців тому +3

    Folks, have a read of the book "Confessions of an economic hitman".

  • @daniera7635
    @daniera7635 11 місяців тому +2

    Thank you Kyle & Erik for this insightful and alarming interview, it further strengthens my perception of the CCP. They must be stopped!

    • @amunra5330
      @amunra5330 11 місяців тому

      They cant be stopped-sorry.

    • @lagrangewei
      @lagrangewei 11 місяців тому

      the one that need to be stop is the US.... stop vetoing ceasefire on Gaza...

  • @MrDamon888
    @MrDamon888 Рік тому +2

    That is mind blowing

  • @qingzhou9983
    @qingzhou9983 Рік тому +14

    Erik is talking out side his expertise now and gets into a danger zone. He thinks tough on China, especially on Taiwan issue will avoid war. He needs to study the Korean War and Vietnam War. China had fought with US and Soviet on its National Security issue. And Taiwan is an unfinished Chinese Civil War, the biggest National Security issue for China. If Erik is real in charge US will be in a war with China over Taiwan in no time.
    He actually should know that since he lived in China for 10 years.

  • @telluwide5553
    @telluwide5553 Рік тому +10

    As much as these two claim to be talking "apolitical," they are clearly political....A little disappointed, as their politics take away some of their legitimacy...

  • @davecollins8136
    @davecollins8136 11 місяців тому

    The jingoism is heart warming

  • @parklilys3108
    @parklilys3108 11 місяців тому

    It is high time for Kyle Bass to short China.

  • @ll-io4bd
    @ll-io4bd 11 місяців тому +2

    You should look for some inside issues too. To blame orthers is easy thing to do.

  • @wonton120
    @wonton120 Рік тому +8

    China construction companies are the best in the world. Of course, it's the right choice to select them.

  • @melissastraka2358
    @melissastraka2358 Рік тому +4

    That was amazingly helpful ❤

  • @RobWilliams007
    @RobWilliams007 Рік тому +1

    Funny though, Obama doesn’t see the opportunities that are offered by The US, as contributing factors to his success. If he did, he wouldn’t want to change the system and squash future people’s opportunities.

    • @susanyz7864
      @susanyz7864 9 місяців тому +1

      Obama was the man who learned a lot from Mao the used the RACE card divided the Americans. He use the Propaganda methods to liar the Americans.

  • @prula
    @prula Рік тому +2

    Very interesting! 🎉

  • @ffgftgfgfgf6434
    @ffgftgfgfgf6434 Рік тому +10

    two liars talk nonsense

  • @Jonathan-m8n
    @Jonathan-m8n 6 місяців тому

    Wow look at his life story my eyes are sheading a tear hes a Chinese national guard for china

  • @RobWilliams007
    @RobWilliams007 Рік тому +1

    Can’t signal strength with the Bribem administration.

  • @Irishajw2
    @Irishajw2 Рік тому +3

    Great insight

  • @rodh1585
    @rodh1585 11 місяців тому +1

    This is frightening. What are the democrats doing ?

  • @TokyoTower936
    @TokyoTower936 Рік тому +2

    That's interesting.

  • @randomskid
    @randomskid Рік тому +3

    Came for Kyle
    Departed 20 mins into the conversation with enough ‘….uh….’, ‘….um….’, ‘….ah…’ to tide me over for a decade.

    • @linmal2242
      @linmal2242 Рік тому +1

      Short attention span, huh?

  • @daniellou9334
    @daniellou9334 46 хвилин тому

    Money buys, as simple as that, Man!

  • @Rainy_Day12234
    @Rainy_Day12234 Рік тому +4

    The world is corrupt…that basic tenet explains and predicts it all.

    • @linmal2242
      @linmal2242 Рік тому

      And the sky is blue. So what's your point?

  • @Utube1024
    @Utube1024 11 місяців тому

    Kyle should go to HK support and protect Jimmy Lai

  • @pcsing2006
    @pcsing2006 11 місяців тому +2

    My goodness! Kyle Bass shorted China and lost every single time! Now we are asked to believe this China haters talk show?

  • @xushenxin
    @xushenxin 11 місяців тому

    So what have you done for Cuba? Your mother land. remember who you are.

  • @surinderbansal4560
    @surinderbansal4560 11 місяців тому

    The border is a symbol of and power of a nation. Violation of each without punishment is an international weakness. The liberal system does work anywhere on earth. Only the pragmatist system works because this is the most flexible and self-correcting. Rt wing and lt wing systems are too rigid and the majority of those systems have no ability to point out problems. America is not a country but a trading post. Most immigrants get settled into money-making through business, political power, or both. The rest of the population is turned into working ants. They can't rebel due to ignorance and fear of being sent back to where they come from.

  • @bro.radcliffe9453
    @bro.radcliffe9453 Рік тому +2

    Corruption

  • @rosshughes2921
    @rosshughes2921 11 місяців тому

    An aside but genuine question - why does Mr Bass feel the need to display THEEE American flags??… Imagine any other nationality doing the same with their country’s flag…😒

  • @KL-nj9oe
    @KL-nj9oe Рік тому +4

    We live in bazaro world.

  • @marlontorres3128
    @marlontorres3128 Рік тому +3

    No mention of Trump’s appeasement towards Putin. Interesting 🤨

  • @blafonovision4342
    @blafonovision4342 11 місяців тому

    This is an interview to communicate Republican talking points.

  • @DumstigB
    @DumstigB Рік тому +9

    Well that was almost a waste of time

  • @benet-vt6vv
    @benet-vt6vv 11 місяців тому

    what american do benefits american, what chinese do benefits american too? dreaming.

  • @zefengc
    @zefengc 5 місяців тому

    Much biased on that pollution rhetoric. The devices enable you to do interviews and a lot of appliances you were using are most likely made in China. Making them requires tremendous power. For sure many of the brands are outsourcing plants to elsewhere, but before they could find better places to do productions, China is still a preferable location to many manufacturers. Yet being the largest investor and user of clean energy and building coal plants that is more efficient, people like you are constantly blaming China being the biggest polluter. That is honestly unfair.

  • @MotokoOgawa
    @MotokoOgawa 8 місяців тому

    AI needs Arctic Ice. The latter will be gone by 2030.

  • @joebowman4659
    @joebowman4659 11 днів тому

    kyle bass is a very poor interviewer.

  • @ryanyoutube7315
    @ryanyoutube7315 Рік тому +9

    Pretty sure the west does the same in diff ways. ;)

  • @davidcoursey5041
    @davidcoursey5041 Рік тому +3

    This is certainly the most disturbing Real Vision presentation to date.
    Within a generation the USA will be but a footnote to history; Tartary or the Iroquois.

  • @香料國境
    @香料國境 11 місяців тому

    This guy, Rao, at the beginning commercial predicted million usd bitcoin....FAIL

  • @lenr7068
    @lenr7068 Рік тому +2

    But it has been said BiBI N. is close friends with Vlad P. They have each other's personal phone number. Strange.

  • @stephenpercy4643
    @stephenpercy4643 Рік тому +1

    appeasing dictators for money -- like all countries -- great piece !

  • @FreemonSandlewould
    @FreemonSandlewould 11 місяців тому

    What does CIA Kyle have to say? Why CIA things of course!!!

  • @ll-io4bd
    @ll-io4bd 11 місяців тому

    A poor guy😅

  • @blafonovision4342
    @blafonovision4342 11 місяців тому

    The mission of the WB/IMF was to transfer the wealth from the lower classes in the USA to the upper classes in the rest of the world.

  • @silversurfergw
    @silversurfergw 11 місяців тому

    😂😂😂😂

  • @janinecraane6675
    @janinecraane6675 Рік тому +1

    run for president- third party

  • @hlleung
    @hlleung Рік тому +1

    崇禎 is a nickname of the current CCP leader now. If you don't know the definition, please google translate. you will know the meaning of 崇禎 The book was banned in China . It is called 崇禎:勤政的亡國君!! The main sloan is
    昏招连连步步错,越是折腾越亡国

  • @TheRealSnakePlisken
    @TheRealSnakePlisken Рік тому

    Lost me at trump.

  • @hangtuah888
    @hangtuah888 Рік тому +6

    OBVIOUSLY THE CHINESE ARE SMARTER THAN YOU DUDE.😂😂😂

  • @hangtuah888
    @hangtuah888 Рік тому

    😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂