The shock cord you need is built into the ends of the swagman. Press the cord lock and pull the shock cord loops out to cinch up the "ends" of it. A simple loop of paracord connected to your straps with a larks head gives you a button knot that you can loop the shock cord through with yet another larks head. This also gives you the seal you need on either end. This also makes it easy to disconnect quickly and use as a blanket/hoodie/whatever. If you're crafty you can also run your hammock through the ends and zip it up while you're in the hammock for a sleeping pod. It is a tight fit though and it would not be easy to get a proper diagonal lay. This is an incredibly versatile piece of gear. Perhaps paired up with something like the 2go systems Trifecta and you'd have a sleep system that would get you into some pretty decent temps and be around 2lbs. I also don't bother with the stuff sack. I just cram it into my pack and let it fill up all the empty voids in the pack. Forcing yourself to make it fit in the shape of the stuff sack is definitely a struggle. The Swagman Roll (non basic) also has a chest pocket and you can roll it up into itself for storage and ditch the stuff sack. Here's a few pics of what I am talking about (sorry it's difficult to see the paracord loops, but they are on either end of my hammock: imgur.com/a/c2M6kSy
Hmm...ok...I will have to revisit that and check out the shock cord. I do have the Trifecta as well...that would make a nice little combo setup. Thanks for the comments...get me thinking.
@@outerlimitless Since I saw you have the 2gosystems poncho I was wondering if you could report back on how the swagman fits with that as a liner? I was considering their v3 poncho instead of the Helikon-Tex poncho (which is pretty much sold out everywhere) since it has a reflective liner and could be used as a bivy bag as well. I have a thing for multi-functional gear :)
Nice review. I have a polish woodland swagman roll. I think it’s good to pair with their poncho and keep it in the truck/car as an anytime option for car camping, day hike, etc. I agree that fir longer hikes, something warmer and lighter like a down sleeping bag is more suited.
Use mine as under quilt all the time. If you had cinched the ends down fully closed there is enough shock cord to attach it properly without putting strain on anything.
Hey dude 👊 greetings from Ireland 🇮🇪 great review video man, I was doing some research and came across your channel. I have one on the way. It’ll be perfect for bushcraft chores in the mornings. Thanks for sharing 👊
I take a picnic blanket as a well picnic blanket but also a ground sheet under my sleep system but l could see this as a substitute but also something to wear on cold nights around the camp fire.
Great review! Helped a lot when I'm considering purchasing one (but the other version with pocket and lighter weight). I'd use it as camp insulation and overbag (blanket mode). I think it'll do good in the winter to shield the down gear. Felt your style is more similar to mine, most of the reviewers are bug out/survival style camping people, not thin backpackers who also hike around.
What if you were to run the Pchord that you have anchored to the trees thru the bungee cinch chord part on the outside of the tightened. I think I saw an excess loop portion. I had a hard time seein how you had it set up.
How doe's it compare to the more expensive version. I imagine it hasn't the same water proof coating, but is less warm. Must be some thing that makes it cheaper.
@@uncletomscabin2073 I’ve only tried the more expensive version. Unfortunately I recently returned it because it’s too tight in sleeping bag mode. From the other reviews I read, I would say the temp rating are the same compared to the basic
@@scuba5k Thanks for the reply, Was thinking it would be a tight fit in sleeping bag mode for most adult's. Got to stop watching these You Tubers salesmen.
If i got two of the swagman roll can i then take them and lay them both out flat on each other and clip them together with the clips and get a double blanket so to say?
You won't like my channel...I describe things and I go into detail, and then I demonstrate and then I summarize my thoughts and reflect on my experience. I'm probably not the channel for you.
The shock cord you need is built into the ends of the swagman. Press the cord lock and pull the shock cord loops out to cinch up the "ends" of it. A simple loop of paracord connected to your straps with a larks head gives you a button knot that you can loop the shock cord through with yet another larks head. This also gives you the seal you need on either end. This also makes it easy to disconnect quickly and use as a blanket/hoodie/whatever. If you're crafty you can also run your hammock through the ends and zip it up while you're in the hammock for a sleeping pod. It is a tight fit though and it would not be easy to get a proper diagonal lay. This is an incredibly versatile piece of gear. Perhaps paired up with something like the 2go systems Trifecta and you'd have a sleep system that would get you into some pretty decent temps and be around 2lbs. I also don't bother with the stuff sack. I just cram it into my pack and let it fill up all the empty voids in the pack. Forcing yourself to make it fit in the shape of the stuff sack is definitely a struggle. The Swagman Roll (non basic) also has a chest pocket and you can roll it up into itself for storage and ditch the stuff sack.
Here's a few pics of what I am talking about (sorry it's difficult to see the paracord loops, but they are on either end of my hammock: imgur.com/a/c2M6kSy
Hmm...ok...I will have to revisit that and check out the shock cord. I do have the Trifecta as well...that would make a nice little combo setup. Thanks for the comments...get me thinking.
@@outerlimitless Since I saw you have the 2gosystems poncho I was wondering if you could report back on how the swagman fits with that as a liner? I was considering their v3 poncho instead of the Helikon-Tex poncho (which is pretty much sold out everywhere) since it has a reflective liner and could be used as a bivy bag as well. I have a thing for multi-functional gear :)
Nice review. I have a polish woodland swagman roll. I think it’s good to pair with their poncho and keep it in the truck/car as an anytime option for car camping, day hike, etc. I agree that fir longer hikes, something warmer and lighter like a down sleeping bag is more suited.
Seeing that it doubles ass a quilt/ sleeping bag I just loosely threw mine in the top of my bag easily accessible because it's also my poncho liner
Use mine as under quilt all the time. If you had cinched the ends down fully closed there is enough shock cord to attach it properly without putting strain on anything.
I didn't realize that at the time...I will definitely keep experimenting with mine. I want to get it back out there again for some overnight action.
Hey dude 👊 greetings from Ireland 🇮🇪 great review video man, I was doing some research and came across your channel. I have one on the way. It’ll be perfect for bushcraft chores in the mornings. Thanks for sharing 👊
Great review as always brother - that hoodie though 🔥🔥🔥
Thanks Man! It is a really HONEST review.
I take a picnic blanket as a well picnic blanket but also a ground sheet under my sleep system but l could see this as a substitute but also something to wear on cold nights around the camp fire.
Great review! Helped a lot when I'm considering purchasing one (but the other version with pocket and lighter weight). I'd use it as camp insulation and overbag (blanket mode). I think it'll do good in the winter to shield the down gear.
Felt your style is more similar to mine, most of the reviewers are bug out/survival style camping people, not thin backpackers who also hike around.
I'm definitely more hiking/backpacking... this is a touch bulky but definitely multi-role use and can be adapted to backpacking.
Thanks for the video
Thanks for watching!!
Crystal clear Video , Beautiful scenery ! Must be upstate NY ?
Cozy my friend
What if you were to run the Pchord that you have anchored to the trees thru the bungee cinch chord part on the outside of the tightened. I think I saw an excess loop portion. I had a hard time seein how you had it set up.
Why didn't you use the poncho's shock cord to attach it in the under quilt configuration?
Im digging that hoodie, where can i get one?
That's the Helikon-Tex Rogue Hoodie. It's awesome. I'll have a video on that coming soon. I recommend it.
How doe's it compare to the more expensive version. I imagine it hasn't the same water proof coating, but is less warm. Must be some thing that makes it cheaper.
This is NOT at all water resistant...but I still like it.
@@outerlimitless thanks for the reply.
Good deed,
great video thank you for your effort.
Would you take the basic version or the Classic? Is the surcharge justified?
Thanks and regards.
The basic is 2.2 pounds and is not as water resistant.
The more expensive one is 1.64 pounds and more water resistant.
@@scuba5k thank you, i'll get one of the more expensive
@@scuba5k Hi' Steven, do you know if there is there much difference in the warmth between the two.
@@uncletomscabin2073 I’ve only tried the more expensive version. Unfortunately I recently returned it because it’s too tight in sleeping bag mode. From the other reviews I read, I would say the temp rating are the same compared to the basic
@@scuba5k Thanks for the reply, Was thinking it would be a tight fit in sleeping bag mode for most adult's. Got to stop watching these You Tubers salesmen.
If i got two of the swagman roll can i then take them and lay them both out flat on each other and clip them together with the clips and get a double blanket so to say?
You could probably do that. I'd need to check the clip layout...I also wonder how secure they would be. Hard to say without trying it.
@@outerlimitless i contacted Helikon Tex and they said that i could but they have not tested that out.
Is that jacket you are wearing rain proof?
The Swagman Roll?
I don't want to be mean but you don't need to repeat everything, and please don't talk about what you are going to talk about.
You won't like my channel...I describe things and I go into detail, and then I demonstrate and then I summarize my thoughts and reflect on my experience. I'm probably not the channel for you.
@@outerlimitless at least you are honest.