Helikon-Tex Swagman Roll as a Hammock Underquilt
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I'm watching this video having just come back from a weekend in the Red River Gorge in Kentucky, night temps in the 20's, so not super cold, but I used my Swagman as an underquilt. Easy to set up, worked well for me but then i'm short 5'8" so maybe others not so much. I use it as a jacket, sleeping bag in warmer weather, I love that thing.
I love the Swagman Roll and have used it as an under blanket; at 5'7" tall it worked well down to around 32 degrees fahrenheit. In colder temps I used it with a second under blanket (Snugpak) and slept very comfortably with just the Snugpak over quilt alone. My four hammocks are all double size so they cocoon me. In warmer temps I use the Helikon Tex poncho as a shelter (plowpoint) and the Swagman Roll as a blanket; and the Sarma sleeping pad with wings for ground insulation.
I'm glad that I recently found your YT channel Randall!
From an old Army Ranger (2/75)) and someone who loves the outdoors, I appreciate your reviews with a military mindset!
- RLTW
Thanks!
Due to my disabilities I was forces to discover a new way to enjoy the outdoors. That is when I discovered hammock camping. I have really bad muscle pains and cannot sleep on the ground anymore. That being said, I have two complete hammock systems, one camo and one urban grey. I love my hammock systems with quilts and hang in my office regularly. That product is a great expedient or cheaper alternative to an underquilt. Like that product, I had my quilts made with clips at the foot end so I can use them as a throw, or cinch them uo and buckle them for a footbox. I like to push the limits of my gear and see how cold I can sleep in mine too. If you drape a woobie over your ridgeline and tuck between your hammock and the under quilt, you will create a cocoon that will trap in body heat as well! It will allow you to cap in cooler temps. I found the woobie long enough to cover but left a small opening on the end for fresh air. Was super comfortable! I will see if I can share some images with you on one of your platforms. Cheers mate
Very cool!
I am going to take a survival 101 course next weekend. I have never been camping so I have been pulling gear together last few weeks. its supposed to drop down into the low 40's. after watching this I think I will be ok. I'm 5'8". I was going to take the course when it was warmer, but missed it. So I'm taking it now. I have the DD Hammock, the Free soldier tarp, the swagman roll, the Helikon poncho, "emergency" blanket ( that you hated) reinforced it like Dave said, Ektos Wool blanket. just in case for ground I also have the Therm zloft sol underpad, and Exped Duro 3R, and 3x7 tyvek ground cloth. Didn't know what would work for me, so I got all of it. I think I have adequate clothing. won't know Until I get there I guess. But this was a very helpful video. I didn't buy a sleeping bag, because frankly there are too many options. the sleeping bag vs Quilt thing. I don't want to buy cheap and it be trash and could've used that cash on a nicer more capable. I'm just getting my feet wet in this "bushcraft" outdoor thing. I need to learn so I know what gear to purchase for my family. I still haven't figured out what I'm going to eat. Gonna try a few MH meals next few days to see if it gives me Bubble guts or not. I pretty much have the stomach of a maggot, so If the dehydrated stuff isn't as bad as turkey spam and Underhill chicken spread I may be ok.
I’m not a big hammock user, but I’m liking the versatility this has. 👍🏻
Apparently it can be used as a parachute for special forces toddlers.
I was sitting on the fence about this item for over a year. Your first review tip me off, got it. Did not know it could be used as a underquilt too. TY again and TY for your service.
Cool! They advertise it that way
Thank you for your service! I am not a veteran, only because I had bad knees in the 80’s. I’m now 54, had a stroke 3 years ago, your rucking videos have inspired me to get up off my ass, any tips for ol broke down bastard?
I've been hedging on buying a Swagman, but this application has convinced me I do need one. Amazing. Thanks!
Here in Australia I've just bought a cheaper basic version to use as a hammock underquilt & as you said it has multiple uses so thanks for the UA-cam demo, very helpful.
Thanks!
never used and under quilt. hammock ,or solar tarp and airpad and mil sleep system are good to 0.F from my experience for comfort. lower for survival. may have to make my own and see what temp it is good at.
Thank you, its good to know the limitations of gear like this. I setup the swagman roll into sleeping bag mode then zip the foot box closed around the hammock straps. Covered my head quite well and I'm 6'1". Also have left it attached to the hammock and packed them away in tandem. Saved a bit of setup time and space.
Nice!
Thanks for the video, I've been waiting to see the swagman roll used as an under blanket. I'll definitely be trying this out. Stay warm and safe, Brother!
I'm looking to start hammocking this year, I like this idea, multi use gear is always better in the field than carrying single use gear. I'll give this very serious consideration 👏🏼👍🏼🙏🏼
And that's genius! 0600 in upstate SC, 31f degrees, just slung it beneath an Eno in the backyard. Works like a champ with a hill people gear mountain serape as a top quilt. Freakin awesome, thanks man!
Great and brief video! Been using Swagman Roll for more than a year now but never as underhammock blanket, so you gave me couple of good tips HOW. Thank you.
Great thanks!
Thanks for the great video! I went to bed last night after watching this video and though of ways to add warmth without much weight. A poncho could be added to the outside to reduce air escaping and an emergency blanket could be layered between the Swagman and the poncho. Maybe a second emergency blanket could be added above the Swagman roll. If you're sweating, you aren't freezing!
Glad someone finally put a video out on this, thanks.
Have one, love it. Never used it as an under blanket, but I will now give it a shot.
Great video and a must have piece of kit!
Great video! I have the Swagman roll, never thought to use it for an under blanket. Thanks!
Well your a moron cause it says right on the package the useses
What is your thoughts on the swagman roll?
@@Matthew_Australia Agreed.
@@dirty6209 aside from the fact that I missed another practical use for it, I would say it is a force multiplier to your pack. Very durable and augments any sleep system and then some. Well worth the price IMHO.
I just got mine in the mail and wanted to see how it works as a hammock under quilt. Bro, thanks for the content!
Mississippi,
That's where they play the blues .
I’ve got one would be awesome to see how you set it up, keep up the great work!
Coming soon!
Excellent content !!! Love your R & D
I've never used mine as an under quilt, but Helikon Tex makes great gear and clothing!
@@Matthew_Australia
Out-Fricken-Standing!
I too have been using their Bushcraft series of gear for a couple of years and the kit is still going strong!
I've worn two of their jackets for several years as well!
Great video...Helikon-Tex makes some great products. My fav that I have is the Classic Army Fleece Jacket...unfortunately the Swagman does not do it for me as I am 6'4. They should make it in a long version!!
One wind has a extra long version , sorta. I don't think it's been grunt proofed yet. But Blackie Thomas did a review on it. He was giving it to a friend as a gift for hammock camping who is 6'9".I don't think its as robust as the swagman, but i dont have any personal experience. But you might check it out.
@@Matthew_Australia Those are all good ideas. No zipper for you though.
@@hammerhound168 The outdoor gear review placed the one wind right up there with Helikon Tex . Except that the one wind doesn't have a hood.
Thanks brother..
Great job
I’m 6’ 215 big shoulders and had no problem in this poncho in any setup.
Another good item for Hammock Camping are the emergency bivy bags not the plastic mylar ones but the ones actually feel like cloth ish poke a hole at the toe Fisher tension line for your hammock through and when you get in yet pull it up like a cocoon blocks airflow all the way around you very very comfy. Bad thing about it though if you had beans for supper there might be a problem
Haven't seen one of those
I am a total hammock user, i have mostly used slepp pads in my hammocks until recently i have begun to use under-quilts and i found the swagman roll works well as an under quilt, i pair it up with a wilderness innovations poncho that also can become a hammock great combo
definitely!
what sleep pad do you use in your hammock. I just got the therm a rest z loft sol and exped dura 3R to try and put in the hammock.
@@WitchdoktahArms I have a THERMAREST something ultra light way expensive one that i use it is a little tricky but once you are situated it ok, I have recently moved to an underquilt. from one wind I like it alot. or if I use my swagman roll as an underquilt.
Good to see a fellow Mississippian! Keep up the good work!!!
Thanks!
what jacket is that
@grunt proof, Hello from another Mississippian not far from the Meridian area!
Cool!
I tend to toss and turn. Using this as a sleeping bag 511 169lbs yeah or no?
Thnxs 4 sharing 🇺🇸
_JUST A MINESWEEPER BUILD, AT MY CABIN IN THE WOODS..._ GP
Hey randall, part time army nat Gaurd guy here. 12B combat engineer. I'm curious as to what Merrell boots you use. The mid or low cut? I've been planning to get some MOAB boots soon.
I have both. I've been meaning to do a boot video. Thanks for the kick in butt
What's the size like if you go with a diagonal lay such as with the big Hennessy hammocks? Is it still wide enough to cover the underside?
It would be too short
@@GruntProof Thankyou! I appreciate your response, that was very helpful.
Do you have any Snupak products? Ive used a few and they seem to holdup pretty good. Snugpak might be worth your while looking into. Great videos, thanks for your efforts. Oorah!
I've used a few of theirs and have two shelters I'm testing now
I just found your channel and it's awesome! I was hoping you could post a video or two about your opinion on military surplus knockoffs/copies. Stuff from brands like Rothco ie. coats, backpacks, camp gear, etc. I'm curious if any of it is worth owning. Thanks!
Thanks! I'm on that
@@Matthew_Australia I don't own anything Rothco nor have I ever considered it. I've always figured it just cheap Chinese copies of Surplus items. I am curious if anyone makes quality surplus style products, Rothco was just the name that came to mind. Thanks for the lengthy reply.
Rothco has some good stuff
@@Matthew_Australia No offense taken. Genuinely appreciate the info and the opinions. Hard to tell what someone is thinking/feeling through text. All good 👍
Love your videos. FYI, when I click your Amazon affiliate link the page comes up mostly blank. No products listed - just a Follow button.
Try testing the Fjellduken king size. 😊👍
I like it
Looking for a -40 sleeping bag that isn't like lugging around a dead mule
Are you back from Germany? Maybe you could tell us how you live en what you do in the army?
I'm back for a few weeks. I may do a video like that
OPSEC, dude. I don't mind sharing certain things
What Combat boots would you recommend for a climate like Wisconsin during the Spring, Summer, Fall. There's so many out there I'm in a predicament
@King James Bible Believer 1611 Thanks, I'll look into these
@@Matthew_Australia I was thinking about those because this winter I had my Bellevilles to close to a fire warming up my feet and melted some of the foam, Are the Rockies all Rubber on the bottom?
I was personally thinking about the Rockies SV2 or the Jungle boots, since Wisconsin USA it typically pretty wett
@@Matthew_Australia Thanks, I'm just looking at using them for 3 out of 4 seasons so they should be perfect!
Knowing how durable the Rockies are I'll probably get the jungle boots because I like the more aggressive tread pattern
@@Matthew_Australia Not sure which I want www.rockyboots.com/s2v/rocky-s2v-predator-military-boot/RKC072.html or www.rockyboots.com/s2v/rocky-s2v-enhanced-jungle-puncture-resistant-boot/RKC071.html?color=CQ&width=M&size=090
Because typically Wisconsin is pretty wet with rain mud and shit. Does the Predator dry out quick, I'm just having a hard time deciding
Hahaha your channel is awesome man.....keep training 🤘
Thanks!
Hey there from the land of the Huns :). If U liked Helikon-Tex maybe want to check out some other polish company, Wisport. I'd like to have U'r opinion about them and aspecialy of the Crossfire 45-60 L extensible backpack. Respect, Frank.
Cool thanks
Hood have its own pocket and secure itself three with that velcro so u have no hole
so its too short for 186 cm?
Yes
I keep looking at this roll and thinking I should just buy it...
I think it's pretty expensive, but worth it if you use it a lot
@@GruntProof ok 👌🏼
@@Matthew_Australia yeah I feel like I live where it’s cold enough I would probably use it often enough
Damn, do you think it really wouldn't work for a 6' guy?
If you don't mind a bit of your head or feet sticking out, sure.
DOOD!
Sierra Nevada mountains? The last video was made in Germany. You sure get around a lot.
Oh yea!
Hmmm...
Man, UA-cam HATES you! I've been getting ZERO notifications for months and months now. I keep coming back to check and make sure I'm still subscribed and 'All' notifications selected.. first time, I found that notifications were muted, so I unsubbed, resubbed, and turned them on 'All' again.
A couple months later, I found they were still on, but hadn't seen any kind of notification, nor any of your vids on my homepage. Just finally saw this video down a little ways on my home page today, 3 more months on from last checking the settings. Still subscribed, notifications on All, and still not getting any. All this despite having always interacted heavily with your videos-- liking, commenting, even engaging in comments/replies exchanges with you multiple times.
Fk UA-cam and Suzy Jabberwocky or whatever tf her name is.
Well thanks for coming back!
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