Webisode 26: V-Nasty, HipHop & The N-Word | Dead End Hip Hop
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- Опубліковано 5 січ 2025
- I don't know what to even say about this one. It's a sensitive topic for everyone. Special thanks goes out to @imperialshalom for bringing Vagina Nasty, or V-Nasty, to our attention. We, as you may can guess, pay no attention to much of Kreayshawn. Yes we knew of the signing and song but we dismissed it as a blip on the hip hop radar. Her sister V-Nasty is becoming much much more. Here is Dead End Hip Hop's take on V-Nasty and the awareness she is causing with her careless use of the n-word.
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This such a serious convo but Rod was so crazy with the camera I’m over here cracking up 🤦🏽♂️
Does not make a difference if you were raised in a black community. You have not had the discrimination aimed at you that African Americans have faced. My moms side, 100 percent Italian, call each other Italian slurs and a black person has never once said, why can you say it and we can't. Why is that? Bc they know better. Being raised in a black community does not give you the right to use the n word, you don't face the discrimination that comes with the word, you have not had to deal with it
Kyle Nadeau for real.
Lol anybody else notice that cat in the background by himself just kinda watching em?
He's probably just one of the crews friend
+Bakutakamine That cat knows real hip-hop when he see it.
+Bakutakamine yeah i wanna know what that guy thinks lol
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@K-Real 414 he means a person, that's what a cat is lol
Like Isaiah Rashad said-"Don't call me a nigga, unless you my nigga"
I think I get what Feefo is trying to express, but I think he could be more articulate about it. He's basically saying that as a result of the camaraderie and the closeness that he has with his white friends, the effect of them saying "nigga" is not nearly as strong as a white person saying it who is foreign to him. It's kind of like how people who wear contacts all the time become so used to contacts they almost become unaware of the fact they have them on, but a first-timer will feel uneasy.
This is the problem with our society we are unable to look into other people's mind and walk in their shoes and we don't even acknowledge that.. thank you for bringing that up in this converation
This episode was really awesome just because you see everyone get really passionate. It's cool to see you guys talk about stuff like that. I don't think I've ever seen Ken this passionate on a video by you guys.
Ken looking so young wit that cap.
Yeah, he lookin 56 instead of the usual 97
@@In.New.York.I.Milly.Rock.LMAO 🤣🤣🤣
Myke has no mercy in an argument.
@Chazzlizpone LOL. Appreciate that man. Yeah dude it's extremely hard being the Camera Guy, especially when they start jumping on @feefo24 lol, he's like my lil brother. But yeah One Day man, one day i'll be able to put the camera down and be that other personality on show. Until then, i gotta direct and produce it to bring it to you guys! Thanks for being a loyal viewer and supporter. Much more to come!
Wow look at how far you’ve come man. As a young black fan of DEHH for yrs. Watching this throwback vid is amazing. Rod you inspire me !!
Great topic and conversation Loved it as always. Kbinge and Myke got it to a T!!!
Keep up the work and positivity
Deadendhiphop all day #letsgo!!!
Jah Bless!
Thanks to everyone for keeping the comments respectful!!
Thanks for bringing some light to the issue fellas. I was mad as hell when Fab said that right after he did a public speech about the Oscar Grant shooting.
@fwright22 I appreciate your honestly, man. Thanks for the comment.
I am white, and I am also a hiphop artist. I am from the south like most of the DEHH guys are, and I feel like white people shouldn't be able to say it, but I don't have a problem with black people saying it in general or around me. I just hate when white people say it.
respect
Martin Talab thanks dude.
Jason Crownover I think white people should have the right to say it on quotations tho. Sounds retarded to say for example "I like the Kanye song where they are in Paris."
Appreciate you lemon
@snootylittlecutie He is?? Oh, wait, yeah he is. Thanks! And thanks for watching.
As time passes more and more white people will say it and less black people will be there to check them because younger people have been desensitized to the word. To a 17 year old like myself, it doesn't carry as much meaning as it does to my parents or grandparents. I honestly don't have a problem with anyone saying the N-word, although it depends on the context.
the way their getting angry about this, is the same way their granddads would of got offended by blacks calling other blacks niggas. times are changing.
I predict that in 50 years, everyone will be saying it as a term of endearment.
It will be funny as hell. But til then, I don't really feel comfortable saying it, 'cause I understand why a lot of black people don't like it, and I don't want to be a dick to them.
But that's just me.
Yes, call me what you want. I am a white 18 year old, and I have grown up with a ton of black friends and acquaintances that regularly refer to me as "nigga", ever since I was a little ass kid. So, to me, it's just part of my dialect, it's the same as using the word "dude". But, I'm still respectful about it. If you are black and I don't know you I'm not going to say it until I know it's cool with you, because I know it's a very sensitive thing to some people, understandably so. I understand that some people aren't going to like that. But it's just part of me, it slips out at this point because that's what me and all my friends refer to eachother as. The new generation is definitely changing. All I gotta say.
@@zakkofficial7045 Black people have started something which they cant control. U cant control language. U can only develop it. So now we making the word into 'endearment', using it loosely ppl WILL forget where the word came from, and even if they do know then their sentiment to it will have gone. The stigma it had is going. And thts because black folks wanna make it a positive word. If it becomes a positive word, in the dictionary it wont say "Nigga. For blacks: positive. Everyone else: negative". Yet hispanics can say it without no remorse
Mike is right, nobody should be saying it really. Even when blacks use it, it has a sad history where the slaves called each other the word because it was all they knew of English, it was what they were called and they believed it. Racism is still alive, well and kicking.
That being said, you can't say it all the time in raps and conversation, then expect white people to not say it, people just need to stop saying it altogether.
BaconJets the thing is that i think that black people shouldnt be to blame for that. Dont blame black people for the way they got treated by white people in the past. For that youre right but if white people really care like they claim to do they just dont say it even though its not tooooo offensive nowadays for some black people. Black people still should get that Privilige....
@flyonthewallproduct Wow. That is really interesting! I didn't know about the Plies thing (since I dismiss him from my world). Thanks for sharing that.
The ending of this video was literally Myke and Kinge dominating the entire conversation. You can tell Feefo was getting frustrated because they weren't letting him speak. If I were Feefo I would have went beast mode, I mean dude is pretty big.
That guy behind Rod in 23:10 be like "Dafuqs goin on here boi?"
Beezy should be the cameraman forever. Coz rod speaks better than beezy.
RIP beezy430
LMAO. Beezy is alive bru😭
@mrosa718 That was my point. Black people grant permission and then become upset if it's used by those they did not give permission to. That's one example. Thanks for watching.
Good to see yall had a respectful intelligent argument with great points. I watched another blog's argument on this but I heard nonstop ignorant shit from them
@KX125dirtdemon Thanks for the story, man. I really hope things got better for you. And, I'm sure if you really look deep what you went through has probably made you a better person. It makes you appreciate the good people. I went through similar shit growing up (being picked on, called names, etc.). It definitely defines you in life and, in the long run, will help you see the world a different way. Glad you left that comment. Take care.
lol, Old head in the back ground listening to the homies drop knowledge.
If you go after V-Nasty for saying the n-word you gotta go after everybody that says the n-word. Kanye, Lil Wanye, ect. EVERYONE. As long as a large group of the black community say it, I don't think they could get upset at her saying it.
Also with every generation the word loses more and more of it's power and shock. The fact is in the far future it will not be a big deal at all.
@hayden429 Thanks for the comment. A chunk of my family and friends lives in Ohio (Clevo & Dayton) so I've been there quite a bit. I sometimes forget just how bigoted it is up there. But, again, I agree with you. It's a word that I wish would go away, but until it does, there should be people with the sense enough to know that the word means something different coming out of their mouths than it may from others. It may be hard to understand, but it's just the way it is. Thanks, again.
@supasyaman Preciate it bro! Thanks for watching!
See people? I was totally right. Now, since I didn't respond to HIS comment, he wouldn't have gotten a notification that I said anything at all. So the fact that he posted again means he came back here of his own volition just to see if anyone said anything about him. I hope you can see, now, why I said not to reply to him. We didn't post this video to argue with obvious racists. So, once again, don't fall for it!
@DallasfuckingTT 3. Now, when someone is acting a certain way just because they think they have to in order to be accepted or because they think they’re supposed to because it’s cool, then that’s when the subtle black face comes into play. When Carson Daly speaks a certain way to all the guests on his show, but then speaks a completely different way (ie exaggerated Ebonics) when someone like Busta Rhymes or Kanye West comes on that, to me, is the subtle black face.
@jesushateswood Saying she shouldn't be shut down wasn't giving her a pass. It was a response to the "free speech" argument. Even though I don't agree with what she said, I don't believe in censoring anyone. I just think that people should make their objections known (if they have one). And I didn't say the phrase didn't bother me. I think there was a misunderstanding there.
@RyderFly89 Thanks for the comment.
To turn the argument on it's head can anyone tell me if it's OK for V-Nasty to say the word, since she is actually biracial (Vietnamese and White)?
Myke trippin with this one. Hes knows damn well that it's not outta place for black people to talk differently in private, then it is at your job or in public
@kenillla Thanks for watching!
Would love to see you guys present your top 3 rap albums, and debate over them. Love your show man!
@Vazquez122755 Good comment man. Thanks for watching!
This turned into a conversation that was much larger than it was intended to be. Myke said that he doesn't feel that it's his place to check a black person for saying the n-word. Let's discuss that! Let's take it to the core.
"AS A BLACK MAN WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO TRY AND STOP THAT WORD"
@PERSONIFICATIONOFYAY Thanks for watching!
is feefo mixed race? like part cuban part african american or is he just straight cuban?
@JusticeOfLife OOOOOOH! Dublin is closer to San Fran, right? I remember passing through that on the way to Oakland. I don't remember much about it, but it was definitely not hood. Ha..that totally makes sense.
@vice2vursa i spelled possibility wrong damnet
As being white the only way I could see it being fine is if you are friends with a black person and they have no problem with you saying it. When I was in junior high I had some black friends that told me they don't care if I say it to them, just like saying what's up for whatever. Using it like that towards a friend and being white is the friends opinion if it bothers them or not. I think saying it in public or people you don't know is bad and should not be done ever by a white person.
@Manniemanolo Brother would be an adequate replacement and was used quite extensively back in the day. Not sure what happened.
It depends on the context. If I say to a black person "You are a nigga", (Which I dont), that is offensive...., but if I say to a homie "What Up, nigga", I don't see a problem
@TheSWS3 Excuse my ignorance, my man. But when you say "Indian" are you referring to Native Americans or Indians out of India? Either way, that is an interesting point and I think both groups are pretty much non-existent in hip hop. Very interesting point.
@WatUpMyAnigo Hahaha. Thanks for checking us out homie.
@stellarsquad what about some of the blacks in her videos, how do you feel about them?
@Deepstarr7020 It's sensitive because of the nature of where it could go. It's an appropriate label. Thanks for checking us out!
"THE POWER IN THAT WORD WILL ALWAYS REMAIN"
@Sylvanace Thanks. We did stray off topic from that which is why we included hip hop. She was just a precursor to the conversation. A jump off. Hahaha. Just playing.
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Hey I got a question for yall...if im listening to a rap song and i repeat the rapper and say this word when im next to black fox its cool???
If a mixed person said it how should I react?
damn, this one of the best conversations on this channel. good words here.
Sorry for the typos, damn iPad but u get.
i'm white and as growing up i wouldn't say it but i was never like sure, but once i got into immortal technique showing me video educating about it and some other videos about that i legit can't say it knowing the background behind it, but this "don't say it" teaching is the same as parents teaching about swearing, so either you can educate about it or i think it will disappear either by not being used at all or becoming excepted, also beating up that kid didn't teach him shit probably made him a racist...
@konwuzherebeats Uh...in what universe?
Immortal technique uses it, what do you think about that
I think she is very important to spotlight amongst not just hip hop but society in general. Caucasians who truly don't care about skin color in their hearts and was raised a certain way use the word.... and in a way... I don't care as much... I'm 22... the problem comes where people who clearly don't give a fuck about heritage, equality, ect., feeling like they can sneak up and use that word to kinda sneak hate people of color. That is the issue. Severity varies by age I noticed.
This is the only video of you guys that i won't watch. I clicked the like button though. Hey you guys should make like a top 20 albums list. No ice cube though
@misterfelder I said it in the video. I don't personally use it. I don't personally like it being used around me. However, who am I (a black male) to tell another black male not to use a word that offends black males? I can say it bothers me, but I can only come from the surface with that. I can't get deep on it. On the other hand, I CAN do my best to get a white person to understand why they have no business using it. I shouldn't have to, though.
I'm "white"( although I'm Italian, French and Native American) have always had "black" best friends, was one of three people on my hs football team, etc etc my friends would say I could use the word, they called me the word all day, and I never once felt the need or felt it was ok to ever use the word. Even when with my best friend, and all my other friends, that consistently would say dude it's ok if you say it
An example of how it's the niccaz around them that are the ones to blame.
+Kyle Nadeau because it is ok to say it. at the end of the day, its just a word. a fun word actually. Every non-black person has been taught to hold back and refrain from the word because it holds thousands of years of racial oppression and hatred. Yet, most black people and hip hop music give little to no fuck about that. People think every black person is still going through some super racial struggle that makes them allowed to say that word, but no alot of them just say it cuz its a fun word. so i say, just say with your friends if you want. its not gonna hurt anyone.
I feel you. Why do white people even feel the need to use the word? I don’t use it at all, not in quotations, nothing. It’s not needed for conversation.
Too many people say it without realizing what they say. I have so many friends and acquaintances that will use it and I, personally, feel like it's completely ignorant. I'm not even black (much rather mixed European and Native American/Latin), but I get such a horrid feeling whenever it's uttered. I was born in 1993 and the folks that I hear it from are around the same age group, so I'd have to say that most don't understand what they're saying.
As a white male, I watched some V-Nasty videos, and I felt uneasy with the way she carries herself as a person. Dropping the "n-bomb" so freely like that and just the way she talks in general just made me feel weird. One of these days she's gonna say it to the wrong person/group of people, and they're gonna beat the hell out of her.
This is a really good video, keep doing what you're doing.
@DannyBoyFremont510 Our conversations will never be just 7 minutes. Hahahaha. Thanks for watching!
Great video love the logic and intelligence
In my opinion it's the context with which a word is used and the person using such word. I'm not ignorant to the history of the word. There's a time and place for everything.
Did you guys ever upload part 2?
who sets the rules for who can use the word?
Not on a track but there was a video of him where he dropped the n-bomb about a girl he dated, he talks about that in his song Yellow Brick Road.
Why are the Chinese, Hispanics, Filipinios, Indians and Egyptians allowed to say "nigga"?
@JaYb3phr3sh I actually did mention that in the convo, too, but it didn't make it to the show. Men and women fought and bled to get equal rights for black people and now they have to walk around hearing white kids saying a word that, in their time, would have been followed by a lynching. It's sick.
Not making a point, but just curious as to what you guys think of this: I'm white and I know this black guy that refers to himself as 'the negro' (which sounds less racist in my native language imo). He's not a badass at all and he's not pretending to be (I guess). It was coined by himself and from time to time my friends call him by that name. What do you guys think of that?
how can we pass the word nigga around so much and think that other people arent allowed to use it.
@kstangbasedfreestyle Thanks for checking us out!
if it's 2031 and everyone is saying the word, it will be so far removed and have lost nearly all meaning. one day the word will have no connections to racism besides in the history books. same thing with a word like "bastard." that used to be one of the worst things anyone could call someone else, now it's one of the words you can say on the radio and no one even remembers its original meaning.
I'm from Finland and we for example have alot of vietnamese people where I live, and one of my friends is one of them and I call joke with him and call him ricehead and yellow (which is really racist to them), but immediately when another vietnamese guy walks in, and I don't know him that good, I would never say it. I also got a black friend, and he says that he thinks it's okay when a close friend calls him that (as a joke). I personally think that no one should use that word
Something I found interesting was how nobody brought up Drake, who frequently uses the word while being half white and growing up in Toronto. Now I'm not saying he hasn't experienced racism, but I doubt it was experienced at the level that someone would experience in the south, for example. What gives him the "right" to use the word? How has he "earned" it? I personally am not a fan of the concept of "earning the right" to use a word, but I'm curious to the justification behind it.
@mafiaboy28 You're absolutely right. Ill Bill used that in his song to make a VERY valid point about race relations. If V-Nasty was doing the same thing I'd have no issues. And thanks for the words. Growing up in an environment where that word was thrown at me with anger, it's really uncomfortable to hear it being used so callously (from anyone).
When myke us to snapp haha i miss that shit
i have a question.
that cuban man saying nigga is okay because he is a minority.
so i am asian and is it okay for me to say nigga,too? because i am asian?
PS i am living in the hood.
@tehjizz I don't use any offensive words toward a group I don't belong. First, I don't want to end up in a fight. Especially over something stupid. Haha. And I don't really care much for it around our race either used among ourselves.
@rich925 Thank you, i'm black and i agree. I feel if you want to be real about it and it's such an offensive word then NO ONE should say it.
@flyonthewallproduct but a guy in this video said "this nigga" about eminem in another one of their videos thats what i was referring to.
I don't think anyone should be allowed to use that word. Not a single person.
No exceptions.
ppl say nigga everyday b
miketherealest100 That's not the point he's making, he is saying they shouldn't.
you forgot a nigga.
Nigga fuck you :D
i just heard about this a few days ago,,,, its nice seeing a take on it
I completely agree with Mike, as long as the word is being flung around, no matter how hard we're trying to appropriate it..... it does not lose its power. The comment about "subtle black face" hit the nail on the head about what I feel.... especially considering the fact that she thinks she has more right to say the word because she's a convict, ugh...
Also, allot of people are only offended when the joke is on them, if you know what i'm saying...
People watch south park and laugh at the gay jokes, they laugh when they're making fun of religion,Chinese and indian people,etc... But when southpark parodies rap and black communities or something people get offended.(and vice-versa, this applies to everyone). This was sort of an metaphor to express the way i feel what these kinds of topics.
what if they're unknown and they just think it sounds better? and they don't want to sound like sole or sage francis?
You all got her wrong, she is the first person to step out as white saying the n-word casually with no bad intentions. This is a first step on the end of racism, she is seeing no difference in color and uses the word for both white and black. She comes from a place where they don't make any difference in skin color, that should be something good. The n-word with a on the end has never primarily targeted your skincolor anyway it describes a sort of person, someone thats true to himself.
What the camera dude is saying is that in private no one is affected, but publicly everyone can see and it's an obligation to check that!
@MrSweatTooth Fine. You're annoyed with the same old arguments. Good to know. So....you called me ignorant. Still waiting for you to explain that.
this video was pretty educational. but honestly tho, wat do people really expect with hip hop music the way it is and black people calling each other that constantly. Yea of course there is a history and much pain behind that word, but do you really think its just non black kids who put on "a subtle black face" when using the word as Myke called it. There are plenty of black kids, who i grew up especially, who were also taught to wear that same face as well. Only, unlike non-black kids, no one checks these kids. So they go forth and act this way when perhaps even when they really didnt need to but because of the heavy influence they have been given. Not saying these kids have never recieved racism, but not every one of them has recieved it to the degree that should make them use the word. but they still use it. so yea, when non black kids see it, especially when we listen to the same music and had the same backgrounds, why not? we just want to share it with our black friends. when black people constantly throw the word around ignorantly, do you really expect non black folks to just always be the bigger person and kno to not use it? Im not saying they should use it. but not everyone sees this line drawn between wat is or isnt appropriate because its so goddamn blurry sometimes.
@SnuckYoCookies contenues post 5, there are still groups of people who use the term among themselves with it's evolved definition. As this definition contenues to evolve throughout the community, the less the concept of whether it's right or wrong becomes apparent. this probably doesn't matter in todays society but it is important to acknowledge when discussing these issues. this happends alot with words like Lady, Nice, the original definitions are almost completely forgotten.
I'm white and have black friends that call me nigga..and I say nigga in conversation and it doesn't bother them, I understand that it isn't okay outside of those friends. Now, outside of those friends...would it be okay for me to say nigga in reciting rap lyrics or a song title?
@mykectown What I was speaking to was you saying that her accent was not acceptable because she was white. You speak well, and there is nothing wrong with that. I'm trying to say you should look past color when your talking about someone. You can't seem to do that. At least not with white people and the "n-word"