A million thanks to the uploader. This era of gymnastics is still my favorite. Shannon Miller will always be my favorite gymnast, but i adore Kerri Strug, Dominique Dawes, Moceanu....Jaycie Phelps. Kristy Powell. Soni Meduno was underrated and I always wanted to see more out of her. I really miss the artistry and creativity in routines. But this is amazing to watch! Thank you thank you THANK YOU!!!
Soni Meduna had a bad back injury in the gym that kept her from competing. Marianna Webster, Soni, Jenni Thompson, Michi Ishakawa, Kelly Brunk, all those Dynamo Gymnastics girls under Steve were incredible. I trained at Dynamo, here in OKC from 94-96 when I was 8-10. It was an experience watching Miller train for '96. I have a picture I've framed of myself with Peggy Liddick, on the floor at State. This, in my opinion, was THE Era. And don't get me started on Lilia or Svetlana😍😂
@@Janellabelle Being Captain has no relevance on how much credit she was given for her routine. That she was chosen to be the start off gymnast on beam does lend itself to knowing how solid she was.
@kras118 - I agree, however being the lead off gymnast on beam in Atlanta gives some merit to how solid she was. In fact she and Jaycie were chosen to start the 4 apparatus' between them because they were reliable. I know Mary Lee Tracey spoke about the decision and discussing it with the girls in some fluff piece or documentary.
@@DizzyedUpGirl Moceanu sucked at the Games. Way overhyped. Shannon and Dawes were the leading stars, while Borden and Phelps were rock solid. Chow did her main job and killed bars, even winning a surprise individual medal for the U.S. Strug was overhyped for the one vault, but she scored the highest compulsory scores on both floor and vault which was a rare star moment for her in her career and big for the U.S team. Moceanu just stunk, always overrated.
Don't get me wrong, I love that the new scoring system rewards difficulty because I often feel like that was overshadowed under the 10.0 system. But on the other hand, it makes me sad to watch these old routines that were so uniquely varied by each individual gymnast, and it seems like that artistry is slowing fading into the distance in favor of the race to have the hardest routines. There's something to be said for both systems, but as both a former gymnast and a dancer myself this sport has definitely lost some of its beauty in my opinion...
Andie Bunker I agree, it's ironic when the new code is referred to as "open-ended" but you tend to see similar routines, especially Russian-esque bar routines (ex. maloney-pak salto-van leeuwen-toe on 1/2-jaeger-toe on full to full in dismount). LOL. I think it's because certain skills are valued more and gymnasts are trying to do them to maximize on the difficulty without much risk. I feel like they should add an extra 5 tenth requirement to bars, beam and floor for originality. This will give an incentive for gymnasts to have more unique routines.
@@waiduehubu512 Or they could add other requirements that prevented routines being over-filled with poorly performed high level skills at the cost of more technical aspects. For eg. connections on UB, BB & FX of lower value could allow more creativity and unique style in the routines.
Getting a new coach certainly didn't work out for Strug, she almost broke her neck and he wasn't there to spot her, sometimes it's a risky move to change coaches!
@@georgiarogers9257 coaches generally don't spot on compulsories; that would have been very strange, especially on what was really a simple skill that most Level 8s were learning then.
@@georgiarogers9257 Karolyi was her coach before Nunno. She only went to Nunno after Karolyi “retired”. 🤷🏼♀️ With the fall she had, it wouldn’t have been something to spot. Why spot in compulsories?
Crushed velvet leotards were the most comfortable Leo's ever! I'm sure they will come back. I hates when the new ones started to come in. They itched so bad.
Real talk, winter meets with the crushed velvet leos were so much better than the sleek lycra leos. I stopped competing in 97 at 14 and I checked off all but the bangs, I grew mine out because they were a pain to keep up with but my scrunchie size definitely made up for the lack of bangs.
How well I remember this event. I was there with my then eight-year-old daughter. I read Dominique Moceanu’s autobiography Off Balance, and this was the horrible summer with the Karolyis at their ranch. She and Kerri Strug worked out in the Texas heat with no air-conditioning, inadequate food, and for Moceanu, the continued threat of beatings from her father if the Karolyis reported even the slightest infraction. Yes, the Karolyis were taping her leg in front of the cameras, but they were largely ignoring her when she reported pain off camera. Turned out she had a stress fracture to her right tibia. If both of them weren’t up to their best in performance, that environment could have been responsible.
Miller was such a rock. She came back from her mistake on the beam (which she is usually solid on) and absolutely owned that floor routine, then was the only gymnast to stick her vault landings, finally clutch on uneven bars. It’s too bad she couldn’t do better in Atlanta. But she will always be one of the best gymnasts ever in the world. She was so good.
Wasn't she the highest scorer in Compulsories in Atlanta? (I think?) And then became first American to win an Olympic Gold on Beam! She was great! It wasn't the medal sweep of Barcelona but was still fantastic.
@@tamarahorsburgh2144 they robbed her from gold in Barcelona, ill never shut up about it. BOTH of her vaults were perfection and gutsu's were horrible!
Unreal. Hyper aggressive and commentating so harsh. This code of points and panel of experts/coaches/head(s) of USA and USOG...I'm not surprised the such harsh commentating . nowadays it can be harsh BUT they Stoll speak so much more about execution nowadays. I love. It . artistic gymnastics eans artistic...gymnastics..
@@Diemme_ Betty Okino was just a beautiful in terms of straight legs, pointed feet and just all around amazing technique and execution, but she had nowhere near the power or amplitude that Shannon did.
Lol the number of times they called these girls "OLD" at nineteen and Simone just won at 27. This commentary was wild and the fact that they put their weight on the screen. This was the squad I grew up with and they'll always be my faves!!
Training and diet has really changed over the years. Back then 15-16 year old gymnasts looked like 10 year old girls. Now they look like young healthy women. Strug and Miller talked about that a few years back.
It was excruciatingly saccharine and full of pro-American propaganda. It always treated this young athletes as if they were somehow not fully autonomous and under grip of their looming coaches who were doing the "real work." Please don't be silly.
And their love for “little girls”? Calling 19yo’s “ancient”? No.... just no. Disgusting, especially after Larry Nassar bc he was the team doctor at this point.
They don't call them the magnificent 7 for nothing but Amanda Borden is my favorite,she was rock solid in Atlanta and very under rated as was Jaycie imo
This is so awesome that you guys posted this! I know you can't post the international comps, but i'm looking forward to seeing as many american comps from the "old days" as possible. You guys are awesome!
Jaycie and I have a similar story. My dad ended up not getting rehired for a job he had for nine years (they merged a position with his current position and he had to reapply as protocol), but he got another job that is 2 hours away from home and he commutes throughout the week. I was a junior in high school the first year of his new job and I was a cheerleader that year. I remember when he was able to come watch me compete at Nationals and to see me and my team win along with my mom. It was so special.
The hairstyles and clothes bring back many childhood memories. I was nine years old when this was happening. Kerri Strug on the vault was my Olympic moment.
I was 7! My Olympic moment too, and then after that she went on a tour signing autographs and I got her autograph at a grocery store! I was sooo nervous to meet her!! She was a sweetie and she said she liked my homemade "I ❤ Gymnastics" shirt. :)
Meeee I was 9 lol. And I was already in ballet, but then I begged to be in gymnastics and only made it 6 months lol. I liked the uneven bars and the beam for myself but in the competitions I watch, I cant pick a favorite lol. I love watching them all
Funny hearing John Tesh say that 19 was considered too old. Since 1996 we have seen many gymnasts successfully challenge that stigma. We have had an Olympian at 46 who won a silver at 33 lol.
Love Shannon, been listening to her book in Audible (wish it was her reading it but it’s cool) definitely recommend it. very inspiring. I hadn’t known of some of the struggles she dealt with. Such a hard worker.
LOL at Elfie's comment on Shannon - "remember, she's 19 years old, it takes a lot to get that around!" - 20 years later how many awesome gymnasts age 19+ are doing full twisting double backs and more?!
Oksana Chusovitina is from Uzbekistan, and she has actually been to seven Olympics--Barcelona, Atlanta, Sydney, Athens, Beijing, London and Rio. It's amazing!
It's really weird how they talk like that considering it was nothing but WOMEN who were competing in gymnastics prior to Nadia Comaneci's debut. Think of Larissa Latynina, Vera Caslavska, Ludmilla Tourisheva, Nellie Kim, Olga Korbut, Doris Fuchs Brause etc. I'm so damn glad women are taking the sport back. The lies being told about how women couldn't do this or that because of their bodies, was nothing short of borderline pedophilia to keep young prepubescent girls competing to control them, emotionally abuse them and sometimes sexually abuse them. I remember reading how the Karolyis treated the girls while they were coaches in both Romania and the US. It was horrible reading about the abuse and how scared the girls were. Many of the Romanian and Russian gymnasts have come forward with stories of abuse. I was appalled at how emotionally abusive Octavian Belu was and how he treated Alexandra Marinescu. And we must not forget Yelena Mukhina. She said, coach Mikhail Klimenko treated her like she wasn't even human. Kept pushing her and pushing her to more and more dangerous skills which ultimately resulted in quadriplegia. That's the kinda crap a woman wouldn't take and people know it and don't like it. Hence, why so many women have been low key insulted and called divas for their strong personalities. Svetlana Boguinskaya, Svetlana Khorkina, Aliya Mustafina, Gabby Douglas etc., all scrutinized for their behavior and being called difficult, or not perky enough for the audience or not smiling enough etc.
Why Dominique Moceanu was pushed to peak at 13 is beyond me. If she had been paced properly, she could have gone to the Olympics uninjured and have been one of the greats.
I really feel like the Karolyi’s sabotaged her on purpose. They really did not like her. You can tell by what Dominique writes in her book. They know nothing about proper training. They pushed all their athletes physically and manipulated them emotionally.
As someone who once trained with Karolyi and later Nunno, I can explain something about the dynamics of this. The Karolyi's came from a communist country and were "placed " as gymnastics coaches in Romania simply because they were a married couple. Bela actually wanted to be a strength coach (weightlifting). He incorporated that (over conditioning) in all of his athletes training. They spoke at the beginning about all the press and magazines and book deals. The Karolyi's and Moceanu's wanted all of that. So did Dominique. She wanted to be a "star" like Nadia and Kim. When she was a junior she competed with Kim's music and some of her old routines. It's odd to be involved in that much media especially during an Olympic year. The focus was on the wrong goal.
She looked SO annoyed when she came off floor and he was smothering her. 🤦♀️ Now that I’ve watched more.. after her first vault she really looks like she doesn’t want anything to do with him.. like she looked happy about sticking until he walked up on the stage...
John Tesh was such a himbo. I love how he repeats stories from the 92 games that he spouted off time and again. Too bad they didn't give Phelps decent choreography. I don't think they really showcased her talent.
I just loved the girls all throughout the 90s the floor was elegant with ballet and excellent tumbling passes they just don't do this kind of gymnastics anymore
I will NEVER understand why Kelly Hill didn't have Dominique practicing and perfecting her technique and compulsory routines! It's 60% of the score! I guarantee you we were all practicing compulsory routines at Dynamo. It was part of the training. Absolutely a failure on Hills part.
I am wondering if they aired the event finals. I think it is possible they did not because some of the stars - Miller, Phelps, Moceanu, and Borden (the top 4 from the all around) pulled out of event finals. I also wonder if this is why they did away with an event finals day. I know they did one in 1999 then got rid of it again. Maybe they changed the format because post 1997 there were no compulsories, so there were two days of optional routines and they felt no need for a third day of optionals with event finals.
I wonder what Amanda was saying to herself right before she got on the beam. Maybe an affirmation. I'd like to add I absolutely did back then and still now love Shannon Miller and Dominique Dawes they were the best in my eyes! Amanda was someone no one should sleep on she was perfect for a team captain for the Olympics.
I remember when this first aired I totally didn't get what John meant by 'Dominique was missing everything'. I just didn't understand he meant she was missing her skills lol. So I thought he meant she was missing things, like her gym bag or grips haha
@kras118 - what a great read that was; how great to go from totally calm to laughing hysterically. Granted before reading what you thought he meant I thought you were maybe thinking he meant things like home, friends, family, etc.
This is really sad for Moceanu and all of the stuff she had to go through. Plus she was only 14 and had gotten so much criticism for ‘not doing well’ which is ridiculous! She was extremely stressed and young with a terrible human being of a coach. I feel for her. She may not have done extremely well in her competitions, but that’s most likely due to age and her support. Whenever she didn’t do great her coach told her how awful she was instead of how well she covered up her mistakes. It’s very sad. GO DOMINIQUE MOCEANU!!
It's called criticism. If you never have someone telling you that you did bad or what you did bad you'd never improve. She has thick skin unlike seemingly EVERYONE now which is why she has her gold medal.
Tim Daggett: "Kerri has for so long been in the shadows of all of the great ones...Kim Zmeskal, a training partner, then Shannon Miller...just never seemed to break out on her own." Oh, just you wait, Tim. Just you wait.
I had him as a coach 20 some years ago (I'm getting old) and he was a great coach! Always motivator. I dont understand all the hate he get in comments sometimes. Maybe the porn stache 😂😂😂
Lady Jay Mac incorrect. We actually didn’t need her vault to win. It was still spectacular tho. There real contributions came from miller in compulsories and Dawes in optionals.
@@JamesFrew1 I admire her for her brave act but lets face it that moment gets way overhyped, especialy as you said the U.S still would have won Team Gold. And she milked the fame for that one vault for all it is worth when she was essentialy a very mediocre and sloppy gymnast. Yes I said it.
Bela Karolyi said at least a couple of times that Kerri Strug was the best gymnast-in practice. She would make mistakes-somewhere-at every meet. If she ever developed that killer, competitive, instinct, it was in Atlanta. I felt for her that her injury in team finals kept her out of the AA berth she earned there.
@@grassfedmilkmomma well to be fair it wasn’t the experience that anyone else had with them. Keri, Mary Lou, Kim, etc said they were tough but they weren’t abused. Dominique had a different experience because her dad wanted her to training to be strict, he was the one who pushed for and even took part in abusing her.
@@SamiLo2If we really want more fairness, several gymnasts from Romania spoke of Bela’s strict and sometimes abusive coaching. We later heard of tales from the ranch. Alternatively, perhaps some may have had it more difficult than others. Dominque M. had it especially hard.
It's hard to watch with the media trying to prop up Moceaneu to be the next Nadia. I clearly remember the hype when she was coming up in the 90s. She was never able to live up to that expectation and it's a lot of pressure to put on someone.
@YoMeMyselfAndI - many people would be surprised by how amazing she was in 1992 as well. She and Mary become a must watch and she could've contended for the Olympic Team.
She was a breath of fresh air back the, and I'm sure she is now too. She just radiated positivity and sportsmanship. Her kids are truly blessed to have her for a mum.
JC PHELPS, was really lucky back then to have that close friend ship with Amanda and that wonderful coach, who knew what kind of talent that she was dealing with here, JC Phelps was the one who set the stage for the Olympic team after her bar routine
Miller had the best floor, best vault, best bars. Best optionals.She did faulted on beam. She has scored 9.12 , 9.875, 9.90 in the past on the beam. She was deducted fairly on beam. She should have n did win. Her vault was beautiful as was the floor
She didn't have the best bars. Dawes did and was scored as such with the highest score. Miller was overscored on vault, floor and beam all. Jaycie definitely should have won.
@@DouglasAtherton-fd2wr Jaycie had many balance checks and did not have perfect and beautiful dismounts such as Shannon. Jaycie did not even deserve to be in second place. She was definitely without a doubt overscored. Fuck that. And with her attitude and comments such as "The sacrifice of my parents don't pressure me" and "I don't look at the scores between Shannon and I" just shows how spoiled she was!
I feel as though both female ice skating and female artistic gymnastics have followed the same trajectory-the sacrifice of artistic merit and true variety over technical skill and unbelievable feats of athleticism. As a result, finding actual artists in the two sports has become more and more of a rarity, with only a handful of women actually being able to perform well in competition. While both of these parts of a performance have their place, I see less and less reason to watch either sport when it will be the same story time and time again-the same routine to beat some insurmountable number, instead of an actual performance. It sucks.
@@JennaLeigh Nunno and Mary Lee Tracy are the epitome of positivity! Much like yours truly. I have many favorite women, but I’ll keep it short. Growing up, my crushes were Dominique Dawes and Amanda Borden😍🥰😘👊🏾💍🌹
Seeing Dominique Moceanu makes me want to weep. I will always wonder who she could have been if she had not been pushed to be the best at 14. Her face when she came off beam. I can’t imagine how much her leg hurt! When she did that element and came down and Elfie was like a little pause there, all I could think was poor girl must be in pain.
Keri Strug and Dominique Moceanu look terrified and in pain at a lot of points in this video and you can see Strug favoring the ankle that gave out fully later. And how Bela berates Moceanu after her routine at 35:00 didn't hit, even though she kept her head? Where were the adults looking out for them and checking in on them? In retrospect, knowing how these girls were pressured, starved, berated, and abused by the Karolyi's it makes sense. Greatness can be inspired, it doesn't have to come from fear and control.
I followed gymnastics religiously in the 90's, but I never saw this competition until I just stumbled upon it today on UA-cam. I remember thinking Shannon Miller and Jaycie Phelps were so boring in the Olympics, and I didn't really respect them since they weren't coached by Bela Karolyi. How stupid I was. I loved learning about Jaycie's family's story, and I loved seeing the interaction between Shannon and Steve Nuno. I feel nothing but pity for Dominique Moceanu as I watch this, and I have little to no respect for Karolyi and the way he is speaking to her. Knowing what we know now about USAG, it is almost painful to watch him with Dominique and Keri. Very interesting comment about Kristy Powell (who I never even heard of before finding this video) wanting to leave the Karolyi's for a different coaching style. She may not have enjoyed international notoriety, but she clearly dodged a bullet back then.
Every time I hear Bela grandstanding, it’s like nails on a chalkboard. He loves to take credit for his gymnasts accomplishments but took no responsibility for Nassar’s abuse. This clown and his hag wife are disgusting and hope they get sued
I love how Shannon Miller is so controlled even when she makes an error. On the punch front on beam she kicks her leg up to regain her balance and her leg was straight with pointed toes, lol. That said, 9.300 is an impossible score for that routine considering the punch front, the fall, and the shuffle on the landing. I think the title should have gone to Jaycie Phelps.
Jaycie was totally robbed. As you mentioned 9.3 on beam was an outright impossible score for Miller, just crazy. And after that they overscored Miller on every remaining event, and underscored Jaycie on all her remaining events (especialy vault and beam) to ensure Miller winning.
Honestly, the way they did deductions, 0.5 for the fall, 0.1 for the bobble on the punch front, 0.1 for the bobble on the handstand skill, so 0.7 in deductions, assuming she was working out of a 10.0 (I imagine she was), you get 9.3. Now, I don't necessarily agree, but we all know that there are a LOT of things in these routines that modern day judges would tear apart, but in the old 10.0 days there are a lot of things that seem to slide-- toe point issues, piked hips that should be open, cowboying........
@@JennaLeigh I mean we know for a fact without the handstand issue and punch front wobble she still wouldn't get a 10 or probably even a 9.9. She had several perfectly hit routines at the Olympics and never went higher than 9.862. And the punch front is clearly more than .1 anyway. There is no defense of the 9.3. The judges knew they had to fudge the scores of Miller or Moceanu once they both made major mistakes, since Phelps winning Nationals would have been disaester for the U.S image. I doubt they even win Team gold in Atlanta anymore so I get why they purposely fucked Phelps out of winning by underscoring all her last 3 routines, and bloating all of Shannon's scores once Moceanu, Dawes, Strug were even further back, but it was still wrong morally. Notice too how Phelps got only a 9.75 on beam when it was the exact same routine she did in qualifying at event worlds and got a 9.85 minus not doing the 3 layouts but that shouldn't matter since her routine was easily out of 10 anyway. I bet if Miller was way out in front she gets a 9.85 just like worlds mysteriously rather than 9.75, LOL!
I go back and forth with this scoring. At first, I thought Miller was overscored on floor, but then after Dominique M and Strug scored 9.8 and higher with those awkward landings...ugh. I can't decide. Wouldn't have scored Miller's beam over a 9.1. Phelps vaults...lots of deductions.
Moceanu says that a culture that allowed such abuses to persist opened the door for someone like Nassar to prey on young women. Nassar, she says, “knew of the verbal, psychological, emotional abuses that the Károlyis were doing to the athletes. And he chose to exploit it for his personal pleasure.”
I hate how they had the coaches mic'd. The network coverage never let the athletics of these girls shine alone. They always had to be treated like interchangeable bit players in the coaches drama. Especially when it came to Bela. The network used to hype him like crazy. If one of the girls had the performance of a lifetime they would take the camera off of her to get Bela's reaction instead. Watching these old competitions is triggering me.
The judges wanted to make sure Jaycie did not win the All Around since she was a "no name" and that would have hurt the teams reputation going into the Games if a no name won the US All Around. I doubt they win Team gold if Jaycie won the All Around at US Nationals.
Thank god the velvet/velour leos went the way of the dinosaurs. I graduated high school in 1997 and my competition leotards were the same nasty velvety stuff. Yuck! I like today's shiny ones so much better... then again, 15 years from now they'll be making fun of those.
Haha Injuries and age? My god the program and the things said and the weight and of course age? My dear god. Simone biles 26 making history. Also I miss the velvet leotard 😭I had a beautiful purple one with a matching scrunchie! I feel terrible for DM poor girl made to peak and push that hard so young at just 13 years old working through horrible injuries she would have been one of the most amazing gymnasts of all time had the Karolis not coached her.
+Doug Metris Right and Dominique Moceanu missing a skill and getting a 9.7 would have happened? This is Nationals everyone was overscored compared to a world competition. Dawes compulsories scores would have taken her out of the AA if she competed them at the Olympics.
+Doug Metris Why are you comparing the Olympics to a National competition because I must have missed that 9.9 floor and bars routine Dawes got in ATlanta. Compulsoies mattered and Miller owned every US gymnast on them and should have been way ahead of Phelps who had mistakes on beam and bars and floor. I was there
Keri Stru g was so clearly injured here, but Karolyi and Team USA gave zero shits. She landed exactly the same way on her vaults as she did in Atlanta; injured and masking that she's landing on one foot.
Egads! Ancient compared to gymnastics almost a quarter century later. Having said that, that's pretty neat how they go from low bar to high. Elfi was the dominant twist by twist announcer and Tim was almost silent. Now it's completely reversed. Elfi was replaced by Nastia, Al Trautwig replaced by Terry Gannon, and Mr. Gymnastics 101 has found his niche in life.
Shannon had a broken wrist in Atlanta and still managed to be the best US gymnast. How is Shannon too old but Dawes who is older has a focus issue? Shannon was a better gymnast and she proved it time and time again but usa-gym still treats her like second class
NoneYour Bizness Becus Dawes consistently stepped on her own feet, but anyone w an objective view of the sport knew that she had been a better gymnast than Miller from 94 on! Shannon had amazing drive and competitiveness, but if you could get her and Dawes to both hit on the same day, we know who'd win.
U know good n damn well that Shannon was the best in 92 n 93, n that was her peak. By 94 it was over. Dawes was flat out a much better package gymnast than Shannon. Shannon was great, but I cant respect ppl who are delusional abt their favs. Theyre over it 20 yrs later, u should be too
Not Saying lmao stop it Dawes only lost to Shannon when she herself, made mistakes. No fall on floor in 96 she’s AA champ. Stop it. Shannon scores were notoriously inflated.
She team didn't really need help on beam as they had an amazing beam team already, and an even more amazing bars team. Where they needed help was vault and to a minor degree floor. As she did not offer that, she was of no use to the team. I do like her beam a lot though.
A pak salto lands in a handstand? Since when? And how? Elfie cannot seriously be combining the pak salto and cast to handstand into one large skill and claiming that technically one lands in a handstand from pak salto.
Did anyone else notice on the board behind the balance beam at number 13 you could see the name Maloney as in Kristin Maloney. Little did she probably know how much of a dominating gymnast she would become a few years later x
lot's of future names in Olympics and college at this thing too that you never see but you hear their names every now and then on the P.A. system in the background like Bhardwaj, Krisitin Maloney, Kulikowski, Andree Pickens and Shannon Bowles.
I had classes with Andree Pickens in high school. She was gone a lot from traveling to international competitions. She was also in the movie stick it with Bhardwaj.
Have they made the floor ex smaller in recent years? Because I've noticed that gymnasts hardly ever step out of bounds in this era, but nowadays it happens all the time. (Or maybe that's just the competitions I've watched so far, I could be wrong)
+Saria Kokiri They didn't change the floor, they changed the scoring system. The old system capped out at 10 points, so if your competitors were posting 9.8s and 9.9s, you couldn't risk making a single mistake by attempting something more difficult. The new system gives each individual performance a different maximum score based on difficulty, so if your competitors have 9.9s, you can choose to go for a much harder routine worth 11 points, make a few mistakes and still win overall because your routine was worth more to begin with. So nowadays gymnasts aren't trying as hard to avoid mistakes as they used to.
I wonder did Dr Nasser have something to do with Dominique Dawes crying all day. She looked so sad!! She must’ve realized that she didn’t want him to hurt her career anymore!!
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A million thanks to the uploader. This era of gymnastics is still my favorite. Shannon Miller will always be my favorite gymnast, but i adore Kerri Strug, Dominique Dawes, Moceanu....Jaycie Phelps. Kristy Powell. Soni Meduno was underrated and I always wanted to see more out of her.
I really miss the artistry and creativity in routines.
But this is amazing to watch! Thank you thank you THANK YOU!!!
This is my generation of gymnast!☺
Yes, my favorite era as well.
Yes!!!! I always say the same
Shannon Miller is a great example of a favourite and Dominique Moceanu but my fav is Kerri Strug
Soni Meduna had a bad back injury in the gym that kept her from competing. Marianna Webster, Soni, Jenni Thompson, Michi Ishakawa, Kelly Brunk, all those Dynamo Gymnastics girls under Steve were incredible. I trained at Dynamo, here in OKC from 94-96 when I was 8-10. It was an experience watching Miller train for '96. I have a picture I've framed of myself with Peggy Liddick, on the floor at State. This, in my opinion, was THE Era. And don't get me started on Lilia or Svetlana😍😂
I feel like Borden deserved more credit for her beam routine. You don't hear enough about the skills she threw and how solid she was in 1996
The Olympic team knew. They voted her Captain. :)
@@Janellabelle Being Captain has no relevance on how much credit she was given for her routine. That she was chosen to be the start off gymnast on beam does lend itself to knowing how solid she was.
@kras118 - I agree, however being the lead off gymnast on beam in Atlanta gives some merit to how solid she was.
In fact she and Jaycie were chosen to start the 4 apparatus' between them because they were reliable. I know Mary Lee Tracey spoke about the decision and discussing it with the girls in some fluff piece or documentary.
Yeah, everyone was like "Shannon this" and "Moceanu that" and "look at what Kerri did!".
Amanda was solid.
@@DizzyedUpGirl Moceanu sucked at the Games. Way overhyped. Shannon and Dawes were the leading stars, while Borden and Phelps were rock solid. Chow did her main job and killed bars, even winning a surprise individual medal for the U.S. Strug was overhyped for the one vault, but she scored the highest compulsory scores on both floor and vault which was a rare star moment for her in her career and big for the U.S team. Moceanu just stunk, always overrated.
Don't get me wrong, I love that the new scoring system rewards difficulty because I often feel like that was overshadowed under the 10.0 system. But on the other hand, it makes me sad to watch these old routines that were so uniquely varied by each individual gymnast, and it seems like that artistry is slowing fading into the distance in favor of the race to have the hardest routines. There's something to be said for both systems, but as both a former gymnast and a dancer myself this sport has definitely lost some of its beauty in my opinion...
Andie Bunker I agree, it's ironic when the new code is referred to as "open-ended" but you tend to see similar routines, especially Russian-esque bar routines (ex. maloney-pak salto-van leeuwen-toe on 1/2-jaeger-toe on full to full in dismount). LOL.
I think it's because certain skills are valued more and gymnasts are trying to do them to maximize on the difficulty without much risk. I feel like they should add an extra 5 tenth requirement to bars, beam and floor for originality. This will give an incentive for gymnasts to have more unique routines.
Finally someone agrees with me.
@@waiduehubu512 Or they could add other requirements that prevented routines being over-filled with poorly performed high level skills at the cost of more technical aspects.
For eg. connections on UB, BB & FX of lower value could allow more creativity and unique style in the routines.
That's fair
I agree. I used to love the floor routines, but now its the one thing I don't want to watch.
Kristy leaving Bela Karolyi for Tom Forster in order to pursue a "new style of coaching" sure feels prophetic in 2020. @14:37
omg yes
Getting a new coach certainly didn't work out for Strug, she almost broke her neck and he wasn't there to spot her, sometimes it's a risky move to change coaches!
Agreed!!!!
@@georgiarogers9257 coaches generally don't spot on compulsories; that would have been very strange, especially on what was really a simple skill that most Level 8s were learning then.
@@georgiarogers9257 Karolyi was her coach before Nunno. She only went to Nunno after Karolyi “retired”. 🤷🏼♀️ With the fall she had, it wouldn’t have been something to spot. Why spot in compulsories?
This is literally one of my favorite things ever. I love this quad so effing much
You & I, Also All of USA aswell 💯
90s gymnastics checklist:
1. Hyper-curled bangs (pageboy haircut optional).
2. Velvet leotard.
3. Tiny CZ stud earrings.
4. Scrunchie big enough to be seen from Space.
Crushed velvet leotards were the most comfortable Leo's ever! I'm sure they will come back. I hates when the new ones started to come in. They itched so bad.
AHHHHH THE 90Zs THE BEST ERA EVER & I'M MORE THAN PROUD TO HV BEEN IN THE MAKING OF IT 💯 DEFINITELY A TIME TO BE ALIVE & TIME WAS HAD!!!!
The velvet leos though! Either crushed velvet or cotton leos. I much prefer the spandex. The 90's were wild though.
Real talk, winter meets with the crushed velvet leos were so much better than the sleek lycra leos. I stopped competing in 97 at 14 and I checked off all but the bangs, I grew mine out because they were a pain to keep up with but my scrunchie size definitely made up for the lack of bangs.
How well I remember this event. I was there with my then eight-year-old daughter. I read Dominique Moceanu’s autobiography Off Balance, and this was the horrible summer with the Karolyis at their ranch. She and Kerri Strug worked out in the Texas heat with no air-conditioning, inadequate food, and for Moceanu, the continued threat of beatings from her father if the Karolyis reported even the slightest infraction. Yes, the Karolyis were taping her leg in front of the cameras, but they were largely ignoring her when she reported pain off camera. Turned out she had a stress fracture to her right tibia. If both of them weren’t up to their best in performance, that environment could have been responsible.
Okay, Kristy Powell's face when she runs down the vault runway is beyond hilarious.
beffyblb all of them
beffyblb I know ! lol
I know I was like "WTF?!" hahahaha
@@rcarnegie78 like she a beast or sum😂
Torri Twyman I know it’s hilarious
Amanda Borden doesn’t get enough credit! Beautiful Gymnastics
Miller was such a rock. She came back from her mistake on the beam (which she is usually solid on) and absolutely owned that floor routine, then was the only gymnast to stick her vault landings, finally clutch on uneven bars. It’s too bad she couldn’t do better in Atlanta. But she will always be one of the best gymnasts ever in the world. She was so good.
she'll always be a legend, one of the best gymnasts of all time regardless of nationality
It is too bad she couldn't do better in Atlanta? She won 2 golds, I would say she did pretty good, LOL!
Agreed
Wasn't she the highest scorer in Compulsories in Atlanta? (I think?) And then became first American to win an Olympic Gold on Beam! She was great! It wasn't the medal sweep of Barcelona but was still fantastic.
@@tamarahorsburgh2144 they robbed her from gold in Barcelona, ill never shut up about it. BOTH of her vaults were perfection and gutsu's were horrible!
Can't believe they put these poor girls weight on tv!
I know!! Now i know that strug weighs eighty seven!! Putting their weight on tv is ridiculous
There's no point. I can understand height but weight is irrelevant
So tacky!
When they show weights in men’s sports no one bats an eye. Why is it fine to show the men’s weights but not the women’s?
Unreal. Hyper aggressive and commentating so harsh. This code of points and panel of experts/coaches/head(s) of USA and USOG...I'm not surprised the such harsh commentating . nowadays it can be harsh BUT they Stoll speak so much more about execution nowadays. I love. It . artistic gymnastics eans artistic...gymnastics..
shannon miller was too good. pointed toes, straight legs, flawless execution. i agreed with all her scores
except that awful double layout
I was watching some of the 1992 competitions and even then she was miles ahead of her teammates in execution and amplitude.
@@Diemme_ Betty Okino was just a beautiful in terms of straight legs, pointed feet and just all around amazing technique and execution, but she had nowhere near the power or amplitude that Shannon did.
Shannon is one of the best ever in the world but gets overlooked because she was quiet, serious, and humble and never won all-around Olympic gold.
@@trumpgoogledmyyahoo7621 Betty was tall, n started gym at like 10
2020 and still rewatching these. Memories.
2022 here love em. Teresa Robertson
Right!?! All the Feels 🥰🥰🥰🥰
Love Steve cheering for Shannen during her floor routine!
***** same gave me chills, so passionate
Lol. He knew everyone could hear him with that microphone so why not act a fool so ppl can hear u lol
Yeah that’s how I saw it too - he was craving the attention he knew he’d get.
@@vmurt yeah he was a creep first and foremost. He even sounded fake when he was trying to be encouraging.
Ugh Steve Nunno is so obnoxious. It’s hard to listen to 🤢
Lol the number of times they called these girls "OLD" at nineteen and Simone just won at 27. This commentary was wild and the fact that they put their weight on the screen. This was the squad I grew up with and they'll always be my faves!!
Training and diet has really changed over the years. Back then 15-16 year old gymnasts looked like 10 year old girls. Now they look like young healthy women. Strug and Miller talked about that a few years back.
Living the scrunchie fantasy in the 90s
Good GOD I had so many scrunchies....one for every outfit! I remember going to school and we would all compliment eachothers scrunchies😂 barf
I was there wearing the scrunchies too! What a time to be alive. You just had to be there 💯
I actually miss the fluff that NBC used to show for their broadcasts.
It was excruciatingly saccharine and full of pro-American propaganda. It always treated this young athletes as if they were somehow not fully autonomous and under grip of their looming coaches who were doing the "real work." Please don't be silly.
I miss Bart conner’s commentary! Tim and elfie are nails on a chalk board! They both sound like bitter queens, especially Elfie
@@lc1715 it IS America, after all. 🇺🇸🌟🇺🇸🌟🇺🇸
And their love for “little girls”? Calling 19yo’s “ancient”? No.... just no. Disgusting, especially after Larry Nassar bc he was the team doctor at this point.
They don't call them the magnificent 7 for nothing but Amanda Borden is my favorite,she was rock solid in Atlanta and very under rated as was Jaycie imo
Yes
This is so awesome that you guys posted this! I know you can't post the international comps, but i'm looking forward to seeing as many american comps from the "old days" as possible. You guys are awesome!
Jaycie and I have a similar story. My dad ended up not getting rehired for a job he had for nine years (they merged a position with his current position and he had to reapply as protocol), but he got another job that is 2 hours away from home and he commutes throughout the week. I was a junior in high school the first year of his new job and I was a cheerleader that year. I remember when he was able to come watch me compete at Nationals and to see me and my team win along with my mom. It was so special.
The hairstyles and clothes bring back many childhood memories. I was nine years old when this was happening. Kerri Strug on the vault was my Olympic moment.
I was 10, I'm right there with you! Memories🤗
I was 7! My Olympic moment too, and then after that she went on a tour signing autographs and I got her autograph at a grocery store! I was sooo nervous to meet her!! She was a sweetie and she said she liked my homemade "I ❤ Gymnastics" shirt. :)
Meeee I was 9 lol. And I was already in ballet, but then I begged to be in gymnastics and only made it 6 months lol. I liked the uneven bars and the beam for myself but in the competitions I watch, I cant pick a favorite lol. I love watching them all
@Janellabelle awww that was sweet of her Lil lying self 😂
@@TaurusWitch29right!? Love them all!!!
Seems like extra steps on landings didn't cost as much as later years.
Can't imagine how horrible it felt for Moceanu to compete on that leg
I know. That 9.8 on beam was ridiculous, it was a perfect routine with a point 1 hop on landing, I was disappointed for her
Yep. The karolyis didn’t care about injuries and it’s sad
Funny hearing John Tesh say that 19 was considered too old. Since 1996 we have seen many gymnasts successfully challenge that stigma. We have had an Olympian at 46 who won a silver at 33 lol.
Shannon was beautiful to watch on floor. Her hand movements were so pretty.
Dominique Dawes' 3Ds are Determination, Dedication, and DESIRE!
Love Shannon, been listening to her book in Audible (wish it was her reading it but it’s cool) definitely recommend it. very inspiring. I hadn’t known of some of the struggles she dealt with. Such a hard worker.
Best beam I have ever seen Amanda do!! So awesome that she peaked right around the Olympics!! :D
Phelps bar routine with all of those straddles=gorgeous!
LOL at Elfie's comment on Shannon - "remember, she's 19 years old, it takes a lot to get that around!" - 20 years later how many awesome gymnasts age 19+ are doing full twisting double backs and more?!
Oksana Chusovitina is from Uzbekistan, and she has actually been to seven Olympics--Barcelona, Atlanta, Sydney, Athens, Beijing, London and Rio. It's amazing!
fnrsgrl we might see her in Tokyo
@@fnrsgrl I love her. In Rio, she was in her 40s and she made it to the finals in vault!
Yeah it was really shocking to rewatch and see the unmitigated sexist bullshit baked into the narratives.
It's really weird how they talk like that considering it was nothing but WOMEN who were competing in gymnastics prior to Nadia Comaneci's debut.
Think of Larissa Latynina, Vera Caslavska, Ludmilla Tourisheva, Nellie Kim, Olga Korbut, Doris Fuchs Brause etc. I'm so damn glad women are taking the sport back.
The lies being told about how women couldn't do this or that because of their bodies, was nothing short of borderline pedophilia to keep young prepubescent girls competing to control them, emotionally abuse them and sometimes sexually abuse them. I remember reading how the Karolyis treated the girls while they were coaches in both Romania and the US. It was horrible reading about the abuse and how scared the girls were.
Many of the Romanian and Russian gymnasts have come forward with stories of abuse. I was appalled at how emotionally abusive Octavian Belu was and how he treated Alexandra Marinescu. And we must not forget Yelena Mukhina. She said, coach Mikhail Klimenko treated her like she wasn't even human. Kept pushing her and pushing her to more and more dangerous skills which ultimately resulted in quadriplegia.
That's the kinda crap a woman wouldn't take and people know it and don't like it. Hence, why so many women have been low key insulted and called divas for their strong personalities. Svetlana Boguinskaya, Svetlana Khorkina, Aliya Mustafina, Gabby Douglas etc., all scrutinized for their behavior and being called difficult, or not perky enough for the audience or not smiling enough etc.
Why Dominique Moceanu was pushed to peak at 13 is beyond me. If she had been paced properly, she could have gone to the Olympics uninjured and have been one of the greats.
I really feel like the Karolyi’s sabotaged her on purpose. They really did not like her. You can tell by what Dominique writes in her book. They know nothing about proper training. They pushed all their athletes physically and manipulated them emotionally.
@@laurielynne2006 I 100% agree with you about sabotage!!
Yea that’s why they don’t allow that young of girls to go anymore it is 16
Old comment but I absolutely agree with you!
As someone who once trained with Karolyi and later Nunno, I can explain something about the dynamics of this. The Karolyi's came from a communist country and were "placed " as gymnastics coaches in Romania simply because they were a married couple. Bela actually wanted to be a strength coach (weightlifting). He incorporated that (over conditioning) in all of his athletes training. They spoke at the beginning about all the press and magazines and book deals. The Karolyi's and Moceanu's wanted all of that. So did Dominique. She wanted to be a "star" like Nadia and Kim. When she was a junior she competed with Kim's music and some of her old routines. It's odd to be involved in that much media especially during an Olympic year. The focus was on the wrong goal.
Shannon’s coach was ALWAYS in her ear. I can’t imagine how much pressure she constantly felt under. Poor girl
Agreed.
She looked super uncomfortable everytime he hugged her too.
She looked SO annoyed when she came off floor and he was smothering her. 🤦♀️
Now that I’ve watched more.. after her first vault she really looks like she doesn’t want anything to do with him.. like she looked happy about sticking until he walked up on the stage...
But in her comeback in 2000, she said she wouldn't work with any coach but him... lol, yall gotta stop
She liked her coach. If you watch her documentary she talks about how much she liked him and how they worked as a team to make her an Olympian.
John Tesh was such a himbo. I love how he repeats stories from the 92 games that he spouted off time and again.
Too bad they didn't give Phelps decent choreography. I don't think they really showcased her talent.
I kind of wish they would bring those crushed velvet leos back, can't lie
I love anything crushed velvet!
MissLilRedRooster Definitely don’t miss the sweat stains in their underarms area!
they are super pretty
Love watching the judges smiles when Steve Nuno is by them yelling and cheering during his athletes routes when they nail it.
I just loved the girls all throughout the 90s the floor was elegant with ballet and excellent tumbling passes they just don't do this kind of gymnastics anymore
PER usual, Dawes smashed optionals. Sooo underrated. No1 in the building could beat her there!
Yes. I think Dawes was amazing at optionals and Shannon was amazing at compulsories.
I will NEVER understand why Kelly Hill didn't have Dominique practicing and perfecting her technique and compulsory routines! It's 60% of the score! I guarantee you we were all practicing compulsory routines at Dynamo. It was part of the training. Absolutely a failure on Hills part.
always loved Jaycie!!!!
All of the short hair cuts! Love it!
Is there a video of the 96 event finals for Nationals? Dominique Dawes won gold on all four events.
I am wondering if they aired the event finals. I think it is possible they did not because some of the stars - Miller, Phelps, Moceanu, and Borden (the top 4 from the all around) pulled out of event finals. I also wonder if this is why they did away with an event finals day. I know they did one in 1999 then got rid of it again. Maybe they changed the format because post 1997 there were no compulsories, so there were two days of optional routines and they felt no need for a third day of optionals with event finals.
I would like to see that as well
That was in '94. It's on UA-cam. Just watched it a week ago
@@maggiebret Dawes also won all four event finals golds in ‘96! But there is no broadcast coverage, unfortunately.
I will always love how NBC shot a scene of Cheryl Phelps tucking Jaycie into bed when it is clearly the middle of the day lol
Recorder: we need you to sleep in the middle of the day. Phelps:.
I wonder what Amanda was saying to herself right before she got on the beam. Maybe an affirmation.
I'd like to add I absolutely did back then and still now love Shannon Miller and Dominique Dawes they were the best in my eyes! Amanda was someone no one should sleep on she was perfect for a team captain for the Olympics.
I remember when this first aired I totally didn't get what John meant by 'Dominique was missing everything'. I just didn't understand he meant she was missing her skills lol. So I thought he meant she was missing things, like her gym bag or grips haha
😂😂😂that's hilarious!!
@kras118 - what a great read that was; how great to go from totally calm to laughing hysterically. Granted before reading what you thought he meant I thought you were maybe thinking he meant things like home, friends, family, etc.
😂😂😂😂😂
This is really sad for Moceanu and all of the stuff she had to go through. Plus she was only 14 and had gotten so much criticism for ‘not doing well’ which is ridiculous! She was extremely stressed and young with a terrible human being of a coach. I feel for her. She may not have done extremely well in her competitions, but that’s most likely due to age and her support. Whenever she didn’t do great her coach told her how awful she was instead of how well she covered up her mistakes. It’s very sad. GO DOMINIQUE MOCEANU!!
It's called criticism. If you never have someone telling you that you did bad or what you did bad you'd never improve. She has thick skin unlike seemingly EVERYONE now which is why she has her gold medal.
@@raymondpatrick430 she was beaten by the karolyi's so stop please..
"He had a double cappuccino this morning." lol
Dominique Dawes was amazing!
Amazing? She's PHENOMENAL!!!
Jaycie Phelps: competed at three world championships
John Tesh: Jaycie has limited international experience 🥴
Wow, the gymnastics just looks so different than the modern routines! =)
Cool to see how confident Jaycie gets with her UB dm from here to the Olympics
Tim Daggett: "Kerri has for so long been in the shadows of all of the great ones...Kim Zmeskal, a training partner, then Shannon Miller...just never seemed to break out on her own."
Oh, just you wait, Tim. Just you wait.
Gymnastics just isn't the same now that we don't get to hear Steve Nunno's Wookiee yell anymore.
I had him as a coach 20 some years ago (I'm getting old) and he was a great coach! Always motivator. I dont understand all the hate he get in comments sometimes. Maybe the porn stache 😂😂😂
Gotta love how they slam Keri repeatedly reporting different events and yet shes the one who landed her vault on one leg in the olympics!
Kerri saved the gold for us, yea on a broke ankle, after Dom M fell twice! If she hadn't landed it we wouldn't have won team gold until 2012.
Lady Jay Mac incorrect. We actually didn’t need her vault to win. It was still spectacular tho. There real contributions came from miller in compulsories and Dawes in optionals.
@@JamesFrew1 ...Yes! That fact is overlooked consistently.
@@JamesFrew1 I admire her for her brave act but lets face it that moment gets way overhyped, especialy as you said the U.S still would have won Team Gold. And she milked the fame for that one vault for all it is worth when she was essentialy a very mediocre and sloppy gymnast. Yes I said it.
Bela Karolyi said at least a couple of times that Kerri Strug was the best gymnast-in practice. She would make mistakes-somewhere-at every meet. If she ever developed that killer, competitive, instinct, it was in Atlanta. I felt for her that her injury in team finals kept her out of the AA berth she earned there.
Very unnecessary to have the coaches mic. So distracting, especially with commentary going on. Glad they are not doing that nowadays.
I feel bad for Dominique Moceanu. She was broken mentally and physically at this point by the Karolyis.
Yes for sure. And sad how the commentators blamed her “nerves” when she was actually competing with a broken leg.
There are people who still call her a liar and side with her coaches. Sick!🤮
@@grassfedmilkmomma well to be fair it wasn’t the experience that anyone else had with them. Keri, Mary Lou, Kim, etc said they were tough but they weren’t abused. Dominique had a different experience because her dad wanted her to training to be strict, he was the one who pushed for and even took part in abusing her.
@@SamiLo2If we really want more fairness, several gymnasts from Romania spoke of Bela’s strict and sometimes abusive coaching. We later heard of tales from the ranch. Alternatively, perhaps some may have had it more difficult than others. Dominque M. had it especially hard.
Amanda, Shannon, and Dominque D. were some of my favorites.
Calling Jaycie a newcomer when she’d been to 3 world championships already at this point.. 😂😂😂
It's hard to watch with the media trying to prop up Moceaneu to be the next Nadia. I clearly remember the hype when she was coming up in the 90s. She was never able to live up to that expectation and it's a lot of pressure to put on someone.
Yep I remember that too
WOW Amanda Borden was Aaaamazing!!!!
Agree!
@YoMeMyselfAndI - many people would be surprised by how amazing she was in 1992 as well. She and Mary become a must watch and she could've contended for the Olympic Team.
She was a breath of fresh air back the, and I'm sure she is now too. She just radiated positivity and sportsmanship. Her kids are truly blessed to have her for a mum.
Her gymnastics was very basic compared to the other girls
Captain Amanda is what I call her! She’s an awesome team leader and a great Mom! I’ve had a huge crush on her growing up 😍🥰😘😁👊🏾💍🌹
I love how everyone is doing full twisting double back's on beam and they are actually really good then Biles in 2015 is bring it back
And now Biles is doing a double double beam dismount and training a double layout! I can't wait to that😁
@@trumpgoogledmyyahoo7621 have u seen the DBL layout yet?
JC PHELPS, was really lucky back then to have that close friend ship with Amanda and that wonderful coach, who knew what kind of talent that she was dealing with here, JC Phelps was the one who set the stage for the Olympic team after her bar routine
Miller had the best floor, best vault, best bars. Best optionals.She did faulted on beam. She has scored 9.12 , 9.875, 9.90 in the past on the beam. She was deducted fairly on beam. She should have n did win. Her vault was beautiful as was the floor
She didn't have the best bars. Dawes did and was scored as such with the highest score. Miller was overscored on vault, floor and beam all. Jaycie definitely should have won.
@@DouglasAtherton-fd2wr Jaycie had many balance checks and did not have perfect and beautiful dismounts such as Shannon. Jaycie did not even deserve to be in second place. She was definitely without a doubt overscored. Fuck that. And with her attitude and comments such as "The sacrifice of my parents don't pressure me" and "I don't look at the scores between Shannon and I" just shows how spoiled she was!
I feel as though both female ice skating and female artistic gymnastics have followed the same trajectory-the sacrifice of artistic merit and true variety over technical skill and unbelievable feats of athleticism. As a result, finding actual artists in the two sports has become more and more of a rarity, with only a handful of women actually being able to perform well in competition. While both of these parts of a performance have their place, I see less and less reason to watch either sport when it will be the same story time and time again-the same routine to beat some insurmountable number, instead of an actual performance. It sucks.
I love mary lee tracy! She's always so positive and has a good atmosphere when it comes to gymnastics. Karolyi and Nunno need to step up their game.
Dude! Nunno is the king of being positive and cheering his girls on!
Nunno could literally not be more supportive and positive. Bela, yea... But nunno is literally Shannon's biggest fan!
@@JennaLeigh Nunno and Mary Lee Tracy are the epitome of positivity! Much like yours truly. I have many favorite women, but I’ll keep it short. Growing up, my crushes were Dominique Dawes and Amanda Borden😍🥰😘👊🏾💍🌹
@@Janellabelle Agreed, he was always and when she didn’t do good wasn’t harsh and found a way to help her improve
Seeing Dominique Moceanu makes me want to weep. I will always wonder who she could have been if she had not been pushed to be the best at 14.
Her face when she came off beam. I can’t imagine how much her leg hurt! When she did that element and came down and Elfie was like a little pause there, all I could think was poor girl must be in pain.
I agree
It’s so heartbreaking, it’s sickening what she went through. 😢
Keri Strug and Dominique Moceanu look terrified and in pain at a lot of points in this video and you can see Strug favoring the ankle that gave out fully later. And how Bela berates Moceanu after her routine at 35:00 didn't hit, even though she kept her head? Where were the adults looking out for them and checking in on them? In retrospect, knowing how these girls were pressured, starved, berated, and abused by the Karolyi's it makes sense. Greatness can be inspired, it doesn't have to come from fear and control.
I was so glad Kerri was okay! That beam was scary jeez! She didnt even get close to the balance beam on her mount
I know!! She nearly slammed her face!! At least she's okay though. But when it happened, don't you think the commentators sounded too dramatic?
I think this is the most impressive physical feats people do
I followed gymnastics religiously in the 90's, but I never saw this competition until I just stumbled upon it today on UA-cam. I remember thinking Shannon Miller and Jaycie Phelps were so boring in the Olympics, and I didn't really respect them since they weren't coached by Bela Karolyi. How stupid I was. I loved learning about Jaycie's family's story, and I loved seeing the interaction between Shannon and Steve Nuno. I feel nothing but pity for Dominique Moceanu as I watch this, and I have little to no respect for Karolyi and the way he is speaking to her. Knowing what we know now about USAG, it is almost painful to watch him with Dominique and Keri. Very interesting comment about Kristy Powell (who I never even heard of before finding this video) wanting to leave the Karolyi's for a different coaching style. She may not have enjoyed international notoriety, but she clearly dodged a bullet back then.
And now Kristy's coah is the new person in charge of the US Women's team.
Kristy Powell should be in the top 6 for the Olympic gymnastics trails
Every time I hear Bela grandstanding, it’s like nails on a chalkboard. He loves to take credit for his gymnasts accomplishments but took no responsibility for Nassar’s abuse. This clown and his hag wife are disgusting and hope they get sued
Shannon’s beam dismount was unreal
I love how Shannon Miller is so controlled even when she makes an error. On the punch front on beam she kicks her leg up to regain her balance and her leg was straight with pointed toes, lol. That said, 9.300 is an impossible score for that routine considering the punch front, the fall, and the shuffle on the landing. I think the title should have gone to Jaycie Phelps.
Jaycie was totally robbed. As you mentioned 9.3 on beam was an outright impossible score for Miller, just crazy. And after that they overscored Miller on every remaining event, and underscored Jaycie on all her remaining events (especialy vault and beam) to ensure Miller winning.
Honestly, the way they did deductions, 0.5 for the fall, 0.1 for the bobble on the punch front, 0.1 for the bobble on the handstand skill, so 0.7 in deductions, assuming she was working out of a 10.0 (I imagine she was), you get 9.3. Now, I don't necessarily agree, but we all know that there are a LOT of things in these routines that modern day judges would tear apart, but in the old 10.0 days there are a lot of things that seem to slide-- toe point issues, piked hips that should be open, cowboying........
@@JennaLeigh I mean we know for a fact without the handstand issue and punch front wobble she still wouldn't get a 10 or probably even a 9.9. She had several perfectly hit routines at the Olympics and never went higher than 9.862. And the punch front is clearly more than .1 anyway. There is no defense of the 9.3. The judges knew they had to fudge the scores of Miller or Moceanu once they both made major mistakes, since Phelps winning Nationals would have been disaester for the U.S image. I doubt they even win Team gold in Atlanta anymore so I get why they purposely fucked Phelps out of winning by underscoring all her last 3 routines, and bloating all of Shannon's scores once Moceanu, Dawes, Strug were even further back, but it was still wrong morally. Notice too how Phelps got only a 9.75 on beam when it was the exact same routine she did in qualifying at event worlds and got a 9.85 minus not doing the 3 layouts but that shouldn't matter since her routine was easily out of 10 anyway. I bet if Miller was way out in front she gets a 9.85 just like worlds mysteriously rather than 9.75, LOL!
I go back and forth with this scoring. At first, I thought Miller was overscored on floor, but then after Dominique M and Strug scored 9.8 and higher with those awkward landings...ugh. I can't decide. Wouldn't have scored Miller's beam over a 9.1. Phelps vaults...lots of deductions.
@@JennaLeigh That implies she was getting a 10 otherwise which we both know full well she wasn't, so that still isn't a correct or fair score.
Also, why does Tesh SCREAM every score?
Moceanu says that a culture that allowed such abuses to persist opened the door for someone like Nassar to prey on young women. Nassar, she says, “knew of the verbal, psychological, emotional abuses that the Károlyis were doing to the athletes. And he chose to exploit it for his personal pleasure.”
I hate how they had the coaches mic'd. The network coverage never let the athletics of these girls shine alone. They always had to be treated like interchangeable bit players in the coaches drama. Especially when it came to Bela. The network used to hype him like crazy. If one of the girls had the performance of a lifetime they would take the camera off of her to get Bela's reaction instead. Watching these old competitions is triggering me.
Oh boy try not to get triggered to hard, they were exposed as abusive.
Awesome Dawesome !!
Oh Kristy, that face.
Wow Kristy's vault face! Its scary. But awesome haha.
+Kayla jones That's what I said, like she's about to let rip a violent sneeze! lol
Exactly! She looks a tiny bit like pennywise from the movie it!
I’m going with scary.
Right? I was SOOOOOOOO not expecting that. Definitely can't say she doesn't have passion!
Hilarious 😆😆
I always like to notice how emotional Dawes is, she allows herself to be upset and sad without feeling like she has to look extra tough all the time.
Kerri Strug's first vault score was also a joke.
What else can I complain about? ;)
9.3 for Shannon was generous for that beam.. two huge wobbles plus the fall itself..
The judges wanted to make sure Jaycie did not win the All Around since she was a "no name" and that would have hurt the teams reputation going into the Games if a no name won the US All Around. I doubt they win Team gold if Jaycie won the All Around at US Nationals.
Omg Elfie and her negativity 🙄😵💫
Thank god the velvet/velour leos went the way of the dinosaurs. I graduated high school in 1997 and my competition leotards were the same nasty velvety stuff. Yuck! I like today's shiny ones so much better... then again, 15 years from now they'll be making fun of those.
The whole time watching this I was saying "God that crushed velvet is awful" 😂😂 it looks scratchy too, and hot.
Haha Injuries and age? My god the program and the things said and the weight and of course age? My dear god. Simone biles 26 making history.
Also I miss the velvet leotard 😭I had a beautiful purple one with a matching scrunchie!
I feel terrible for DM poor girl made to peak and push that hard so young at just 13 years old working through horrible injuries she would have been one of the most amazing gymnasts of all time had the Karolis not coached her.
uwoeric is wrong. There were compulsories that added to this competition and Phelps was overscored on floor and beam
+Doug Metris Right and Dominique Moceanu missing a skill and getting a 9.7 would have happened? This is Nationals everyone was overscored compared to a world competition. Dawes compulsories scores would have taken her out of the AA if she competed them at the Olympics.
+Doug Metris Why are you comparing the Olympics to a National competition because I must have missed that 9.9 floor and bars routine Dawes got in ATlanta.
Compulsoies mattered and Miller owned every US gymnast on them and should have been way ahead of Phelps who had mistakes on beam and bars and floor. I was there
Keri Stru g was so clearly injured here, but Karolyi and Team USA gave zero shits. She landed exactly the same way on her vaults as she did in Atlanta; injured and masking that she's landing on one foot.
Egads! Ancient compared to gymnastics almost a quarter century later. Having said that, that's pretty neat how they go from low bar to high. Elfi was the dominant twist by twist announcer and Tim was almost silent. Now it's completely reversed. Elfi was replaced by Nastia, Al Trautwig replaced by Terry Gannon, and Mr. Gymnastics 101 has found his niche in life.
Shannon had a broken wrist in Atlanta and still managed to be the best US gymnast.
How is Shannon too old but Dawes who is older has a focus issue? Shannon was a better gymnast and she proved it time and time again but usa-gym still treats her like second class
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I think they were referring to the fact that she was the World All-Around Champion in both 1993 and 1994
NoneYour Bizness Becus Dawes consistently stepped on her own feet, but anyone w an objective view of the sport knew that she had been a better gymnast than Miller from 94 on! Shannon had amazing drive and competitiveness, but if you could get her and Dawes to both hit on the same day, we know who'd win.
+dmann3g Funny how Dawes never beat Miller at worlds/Olympics unless Miller made mistakes yet idiots like you still insist she was better
U know good n damn well that Shannon was the best in 92 n 93, n that was her peak. By 94 it was over. Dawes was flat out a much better package gymnast than Shannon. Shannon was great, but I cant respect ppl who are delusional abt their favs. Theyre over it 20 yrs later, u should be too
Not Saying lmao stop it Dawes only lost to Shannon when she herself, made mistakes. No fall on floor in 96 she’s AA champ. Stop it. Shannon scores were notoriously inflated.
I never heard of Jennie Thompson before but she was great on beam! Shame she couldn´t go to Atlanta.
She team didn't really need help on beam as they had an amazing beam team already, and an even more amazing bars team. Where they needed help was vault and to a minor degree floor. As she did not offer that, she was of no use to the team. I do like her beam a lot though.
A pak salto lands in a handstand? Since when? And how? Elfie cannot seriously be combining the pak salto and cast to handstand into one large skill and claiming that technically one lands in a handstand from pak salto.
I thought the same thing. Over the years, she has put her foot in her mouth many times... Thank God NBC let her go.
I don't necessarily like Kristy Powell's face on the vault. It looks angry to me!!!!
It’s so funny 😂 wow
They really used to zoom close up on the gymnasts face. It’s awful. We’d all look hilarious running at full speed.
It's strange...lol 🤣
Did anyone else notice on the board behind the balance beam at number 13 you could see the name Maloney as in Kristin Maloney. Little did she probably know how much of a dominating gymnast she would become a few years later x
Maloney really benefitted from no compulsories.
What did she dominate in? Injuries? Bad form? I blame Parkettes for both.
@@christineharrelson4831 She won two national championships, sugar. DO TRY to keep UP!
Amanda Borden's bars though!!!
The coaches wearing mic kills me. Also I had no idea Dagget was commentating in 1996!!
Jaycie's coach was such a chatterbox lol.
9.3 with a fall on beam? Nobody today will get a 9.3 execution even with a perfect routine
That's because the scoring has totally been changed since 96
@@beambreaker even with 96 scoring, it doesn’t make sense
lot's of future names in Olympics and college at this thing too that you never see but you hear their names every now and then on the P.A. system in the background like Bhardwaj, Krisitin Maloney, Kulikowski, Andree Pickens and Shannon Bowles.
I had classes with Andree Pickens in high school. She was gone a lot from traveling to international competitions. She was also in the movie stick it with Bhardwaj.
Have they made the floor ex smaller in recent years? Because I've noticed that gymnasts hardly ever step out of bounds in this era, but nowadays it happens all the time. (Or maybe that's just the competitions I've watched so far, I could be wrong)
+Saria Kokiri They didn't change the floor, they changed the scoring system. The old system capped out at 10 points, so if your competitors were posting 9.8s and 9.9s, you couldn't risk making a single mistake by attempting something more difficult. The new system gives each individual performance a different maximum score based on difficulty, so if your competitors have 9.9s, you can choose to go for a much harder routine worth 11 points, make a few mistakes and still win overall because your routine was worth more to begin with. So nowadays gymnasts aren't trying as hard to avoid mistakes as they used to.
I wonder did Dr Nasser have something to do with Dominique Dawes crying all day. She looked so sad!! She must’ve realized that she didn’t want him to hurt her career anymore!!
Oh the Karolyi’s and their horrendous choreography. 😆
Lmbo 😂🤣
I hate how they gave mic for Nuno and Bella