I remember watching this in the drive in with my high school sweetheart. We had "dinner" at the Dairy Queen before we went to the movies. Great times. I miss her and those days.
16 year old girlfriend and a vw bus..watch the first and last 5 minutes of the movie so she could tell her parents about the movie!..still the best,wildest sex I ever had!1975.
I love the scene later in the film where it appears Harry loses in the combat championship vs one of these guys, but actually he'd borrowed their gun and intentionally missed a shot so that he could recover it and test it for ballistics. He's one smooth muther!
Notice how Sweet seemed nervous about the missed shot? Like he knew Callahan was up to something. After seeing Callahan shoot at the indoor range he kind of knew Callahan missed on purpose.
@@kisshooters69 Yeah good stuff. An interesting film. It made a real point of reminding audiences that Harry doesn't preemptively kill people, like those guys, and that he still obey the law and follows the system. A foil to sensitive moviegoers who might have started to get jittery around the idea that he was fascist power or such like. And then I guess Robocop etc came along and had a field day with the same concepts.
Davis ( David soul) was the vibe who killed officer Charlie McCoy and the guy who the police had under surveillance. The surveillance cops saw Charlie McCoy fall over on the motorcycle, then he went into the building. I think Charlie McCoy was the killer at the beginning who killed the mobster and guys in the car at traffic stop.
Remember when movies used to let a scene breath? Minimal cuts and the actors felt like real people. There's a moment when Clint is putting his ear protectors on, they don't go on quite right at first and he adjusts them. It makes everything that much more believable, more authentic. That would have been cut in a modern movie.
Nowadays every second is calculated and run through focus groups and marketing analysts, everything is so unnatural and contrived. I like it dirty and a little flawed.
"A man's got to know his limitations." Clint does and has thrived in spite of those limitations and within them. One of his best career moves was to apply his experiences in and among talented actors to work from behind the camera.
Because those kids shot like trained killers, and several criminals had been assassinated brutally and efficiently; Clint started to see a pattern here.
I remember the Dirty Harry movies for their action and violence, but I tend to forget how well directed and acted they could be. This short scene is a little gem.
There's nothing more dangerous than those who feel they are above the law and know their weapons. That feeling comes across real well in this scene. Harry was sizing them up here and his final verdict was that going against them was going to be very deadly even for him.
@@tjp1451 Harry was an extremist but he still stuck to morals and the law. That's one reason I like Magnum Force is here he is being figured for being a man for star chamber justice which those cops are for. But he is not. It's apparently quite difficult for people to actually get a read on Callahan, one way or the other. It's not so much he looks to dispense his own justice, he is just reckless about it. Willing to stick his own neck into the fire. But that recklessness can get others killed.
@@samsonguy10k At this point in the movie, Harry didn't even suspect vigilante cops were operating in the Department and had no reason to be wary of these four rookies. But the shot where Harry is downrange and framed between the four in closeup, with Harry in the same position as the targets, foreshadows their future confrontation in the parking garage. Subtle visual cue there.
I don't see that here. I see him thinking these younger guys were kind of like him, taking firearm proficiency seriously. It wasn't until the competition that he felt something was up, and that people were being murdered by someone they didn't expect, like a police officer. That may have been after his partner was murdered in the garage.
Harry thought it was Charlie McCoy that did all the killings until McCoy was killed and DeGiorgio told Harry that Davis was the first guy at the scene. Harry then suspected the four and purposely missed the last target practice shot with Davis's gun to have ballistics compare it to the bullet that killed McCoy. When the three rogue cops confronted Harry in the garage, it confirmed to him they were the killers. He didn't know Briggs was their leader until Briggs pulled the gun on him in the car. Briggs thought Harry would join his vigilante force. He was wrong.
I agree. Sweed let the cat out of the bag, by telling Harry they all came directly from military special forces! Harry's RADAR went up. He wasn't sure, but more than a little suspicious.
When he hands Harry his glasses before he shoots the .44, it's kind of a calm display of power, they're respectful throughout the scene but the fact that they are fucking with him in a subtle way makes this is great part of the film.
Robert Urich's character is so into the game that he can't hold in that grin-says everything about what's happening here, and with that he steals the scene!
@@rabbitflatfilms5179 At the end (DH) Harry throws his badge in the water. In MF, he's got to fight a rogue element within the system he hates because he's resolved to "stick with it." MF may have a different flavor, but it isn't lacking in grittiness.
They were a death squad and invited him to join but he refused and told them they're wrong! Los Angeles police had a death squad. Anybody else here remember?
RIP David Soul, thank you for all the classic memories including you in "Starsky & Hutch" and also in "Magnum Force". I also enjoyed you singing "Don't Give Up On Us" and "Silver Lady". I'm very sad 😢 and very sorry 😢 to hear of your passing away, you will never be forgotten and you will always be remembered.
One of the greatest lines ever in the movies, was Eastwood at the end of this movie, when he stated that "a man's got to know his limitations". His glib delivery is what made it work so perfectly.
The cast in this scene is stellar. The interplay is friendly and light but all the time Harry is still at work, watching as they reveal themselves. Cracking scene.
And at the same time, Davis is sitting back there all calm, cool and collected, sizing up Callahan just as he is doing to them. He's obviously not as impressionable as the others, and it shows. This movie was a masterpiece, plain and simple. My favorite next to the original.
He doesn't look like he's doing anything. I've never rated him for acting. But it's excellent that he's helped put so many movies up and created work and great films. Bryan Brown is another who I don't rate as an actor, but he also has helped build the industry and contributed to projects and helped create work.
@@barryschwarz You sound like you're familiar with theater. IIRC, Bryan Brown worked with Brian Dennehy in a 1980s movie about special effects where Bryan Brown gets set up by some rogue government people.
@@filippocorti6760 It's not my real name. I worked with Brown on an Australian film he also produced. More than that begins to uncover my anonymity, so.... :-)
Great scene. The way that cop looks so shy and "oh I cannot certainly use this hand cannon, oh please no" and then stern face and tightly grouped shots. Callahan's face after this has no price!
Right! And then, "Airborne Rangers...Special Forces," said with that boyish look, messy hair and glasses perched on his nose, as if he'd just finished a day in middle school. I enjoyed the huge difference between the shy, boyish surface and the underlying, deadly capability.
@@benvoronov2306that’s a grown man in real life they would probably win rangers lead the way. it’s common sense action speaks the loudest you don’t have to act tough u can yell etc too cause fear though esp if young.
I saw Clint Eastwood in person, just a few feet from me, when I was with my first wife in Carmel, CA, many, many moons ago. He passed right by our table, at a bar restaurant in the valley and just smiled at us. In fact, I remember I was better dressed than he was that night. By his down to earth demeanor, you could never tell that he was a Hollywood celebrity. They don't make them like this anymore.......
Yesterday after my wife’s chemo infusion We were passed by a SFPD motor cop who then pulled in to the side entrance of a big grey concrete building. It was the SFPD Headquarters. I told my wife, “and that’s where Inspector Callahan used to work”. She never gets my humor.
I was in the army when this came out and stationed in Germany. Movies were on reel to reel and i watched this a hundred times. In the end a motorcycle goes flying off the dock and I'd play it over and over in reverse. Eastwood was, is and will always be the greatest that ever came from Hollywood. This movie if it came out today will still beat everything else. It is classic.
A movie like this wouldn't be allowed today. Unless the Dirty Harry character was a 5ft, 90lb lesbian who uses pronouns and is out to smash the patriarchy.
Also not mentioned directly was that Harry shot the .44 magnum with only one hand while casually standing whilst the the other officer had to use both hands while taking a slightly crouched tactical stance to achieve the same marksmanship.Shooting a .44 magnum single handed that fast and attaining that level of marksmanship is incredible. Those other officers are not at the same level as Harry.
So they hit the target accurately and faster but "weren't at the same level as Harry??" because Harry used one hand? Really? Hollywood bravado beats a street smart cop? I don't think so.
As a submarine missile technician, The Fifth Missile was unwatchable. I even read the book. There is no way to secretly unload and reload a Trident missile. It takes way too many people. David Soul played the CO.
It makes me sad that these guys were vigilantes. You think: Finally there are cops like Dirty Harry. And yet, Harry was not a vigilante. He came close to going over the line, but he did it right.
The way he watched those guys, as they walked away afterwards...you can tell, right off the bat, that he knew something was wrong, but he couldn't quite make out what was going on. Not just yet. When he heard the Blond guy described as "Mad dog crazy", though, it must've raised a bunch of red flags in his mind. Eventually, he'd be proven right. They were their own twisted form of "Justice".
I bunked off school one afternoon with my mate Laurence to go and see Magnum force at the cinema when I was 15, it actually got me into shooting as a sport, so it's kinda engraved in my mind, I know the film word for word and followed all the other dirty Harry films, and yes I ended up buying a Smith and wesson model 29 44 magnum.
IMO the finest movie of Clint Eastwood's career. The acting, dialogue, character and story development,action and pacing were flawlessly executed here in a masterly manner. First saw this movie in 1984 at age 13 and never forget it. 1-23-2023
Tim Matheson ( Sweet) is in real life an avid handgun shooter. That probably really was him shooting that rapid double action string. Even with lighter 44 loads, that's pretty damn good!
One of my favorite scenes in this great movie. It puts those four cops on Dirty Harry's radar (without him knowing anything) and helps set the tone. And I think all four of these guys had good acting careers after this. Astrachan just passed away two months ago. What a great cast.
That was David Soul, Tim Matheson, Robert Ulrich and Kip Niven as the rookies. Soul and Ulrich played well known TV cops (Starsky & Hutch/ Dan Tanna in Vega$ and Spencer for Hire respectively) and Matheson and Niven did TV and movies. Impressive cast.
"Spenser" with an "s," like the poet. Lol. That was a good series as was Tanna. The man passed away at far too young an age. The novels by Robert Parker make for an easy, enjoyable summer's read. Snappy dialogue, though his girlfriend is a bit of a drag on the action at times.
I like how Harry didn’t need hearing protection until he started shooting. The noise in the place would have been unbelievable and he didn’t need them when he came into range 😀
Oh I cringed hard on that one. The din n there, especially with the concrete walls and no sound proofing would be insane. But this is Callahan we're talking about. His ears are made of anger and cannot be destroyed.
I only visited outdoor ranges and the gunfire was already blowing my eardrums, I cannot imagine walking NEAR a concealed room like this without protection.
Huh, what you say? I know back in my earlier years between shooting without hearing protection & near the stage rock concerts have taken it's toll on my hearing. I always laugh when I watch movies where there is a shootout inside a warehouse and one shooter throws a drink can or something else as a direction diversion for the other shooter and he reacts, in a real world after the first shot or two without hearing protection you wouldn't be able to hear anything but your ear drums ringing. I gotta also say that after I saw this movie I went out and bought a basic Ruger Security 6 .357 magnum with a 4" barrel but upgraded to a target special Smith and Wesson model 19 .357 magnum with a 6" barrel a couple of years later which I still have to this day.
@@Serpico1152 I love my S&W Model 19 .357 Magnum which I was gifted by my Dad back in 1972. 6" barrel with a target trigger, sights and hammer. Still the most accurate handgun I own right up there with my .357 Magnum Colt Python also with a 6" barrel but nickle plated. Cheers! PS: I still can't hit diddly squat with an automatic but a revolver baby, I'm dead on.
Love this scene. My buddy from high school joined the army enlisted and eventually became part of Special Forces as a Green Beret. He was a skinny, awkward loner in high school but was a gifted x-country runner, stoic and with a very high IQ. Reminds me of the guy here, complete sleeper Airborne Ranger. Great casting. The prevailing image of Special Forces seems to be the macho bearded hulk type figure. I think that many guys in that field are oddballs in real life but have some super power that gets them into these elite roles.
I know these guys ended up being the antagonists but I love the dialogue that happens later when Harry and his partner were talking about these four guys: "They stick together like flypaper, you know? Everybody thought they were queer for each other." "Tell you something. If the rest of you could shoot like them, I wouldn't care if the whole damn department was queer."
The movie is about moral ambiguity. We had to take a liking for these well groomed and polite guys. I would call this the primer coat of characterization.
@Jackalofdeath So this was the primer. We see a killer and find him charming instead of finding one charming and finding out he is a killer. I had my chronology wrong. It seems to work both ways. In the same manner I wouldn't know off the bat.
My father always disagreed with this scene. His distaste is, traffic motor officers are actually and elite unit in many Ca Police Departments. You can't just go into traffic after the Police Academy (all motor officers are experts in drug/alcohol detection and traffic investigators [ technically detectives]). Pop was 30 years in the LAPD and retired a Captain in 2000. But he loves the movie.
As a LAPD traffic officer for 16 years, I can tell you that you can go to a traffic division pretty quickly out of a Police Academy, but you will be working Collision Investigation which is a patrol assignment where you take traffic reports. From there you apply to Motor school and get your bike. Someguys will come out of regular patrol duties and apply to Motor duty. Those guys are not expertsin traffic investigations (they should be because if the Collision Investigators get overwhelmed,the Motor officers have to pick up the slack)
No California agency will assign rookies, out of the academy into motors. Maybe what you say to work as a traffic officer, but not as a motor officer. That was the point of the comment... Motor officers are a cliquish bunch especially in the LAPD. Heck, no 'traffic officer' can work a lucrative movie shoot job in their city. Those are reserved for the 'motors' crowd.
The way these films were structured remains a lesson in storytelling and setting a convincing character in motion. You have to find out what happens next. That, my friends, is art.
Rest in peace Robert Urich, Kip Niven, and Hal Holbrook. This movie has two of the antagonists of the fletch movies with Chevy chase. Tim Matheson portrayed the antagonist Alan Stanwyck in the first fletch movie, and Hal Holbrook portrays the antagonist Hamilton Johnson in the second fletch movie.
R.I.P. to Kip Niven (Red Astrachan) who passed this year in May and Robert Urich (Mike Grimes) In 2002 and now David Soul who passed away 1/4/2024 at age 80
cologne2792 Burn Notice was one of my favorite shows and he did good as the psychotic former CIA agent. He was in the movie Black Sheep as Chris Farleys brother and The West Wing tv show. My favorite role of his was as Otter in Animal House
In reality, you're lucky to actually hit anyone anywhere when in a real gunfight with the adrenaline pumping, lighting conditions, subject moving around. You aim for the biggest target which is Center Mass. If someone is trying to kill you, you want to neutralize them quickly to stop the threat. It usually takes a while for someone to stop fighting when hit in the stomach. They usually bleed out slowly and in the mean time can still be shooting at you.
At the time, some pistol instructors taught shooters to aim for the "Pelvic Girdle," because so much in the way of bones, organs, etc. was there to hit, and the idea was for more "stopping power" that way. (Sadly, the recent shooting of a Congressman comes to mind, a shot in that area can do tremendous damage.) Today, many Police and other pistol shooters train for "Center Mass" shots, which tend to go for the chest as the center aiming point. I guess they figure instinct is more to aim that way in a crisis.
@@Michael-qg7os Actually "Jonny Quest" was on ABC-TV, waaayy back in the early 1960s. During the PRIMETIME viewing period. By the time it reached "The dreaded Cartoon Network", it was in "re-run hell"!
DE Fiverr Two other good quotes from Briggs and Harry are “ I only work for the city Briggs,” “ So I do, longer then you and I have never had to take my gun of it’s holster once, I am proud of that” “ Your a good man Lt, a good man knows his limitations” at the end of the movie “ The only way your going is in a rubber bag”
I remember watching this movie 🎥 for the first time in late 1988 on local television station and in the summer of 1989 on either Cinemax, HBO or Showtime, and boy that I enjoy this movie. Furthermore this is my favorite Dirty Harry movie 🎥.
MsCordially I couldn't agree more. Just think of such utter dip sh!ts like Wesley Snipes, Jean-Clause van Damme, Bruce Willis and Steven "Seagull". Each worst in their own category. The mere thought of these bone heads makes me sick.
Robert Urich, David Soul, and Tim Matheson went on to have good careers in movie and TV--Niven did, to an extent, as well... It's a shock to see Spenser, Hutch, and Otter as killer cops...
absolute truth ... tragic for Urich, a cancer victim at such a young age ... Soul was magnificent - watch "Key to Rebecca" to fully appreciate his brilliance !!!
Rookie year on the PD: Get together with your other fellow Officers. Go to the range before or after work. Go out for a few beers afterwards. 15 plus years on the PD: Show up at the range by yourself. Practice. Go home to an empty apartment. Drink.
If that's you you have my sympathy. A sad situation and it shows that we ask too much of the police. Maybe there's a limit to how long an individual should stay on the street where he is constantly reminded of to what depths of depravity humans can descend. There was a nice article in today's paper supporting "Defund the Police" how, as intended, the concept was that it is much cheaper and better for everyone to have some of the police budget moved to some kind of psychiatric work to take the burden off of those whose job is law enforcement. I suspect more than half of police work is dealing with mental health issues. Unfortunately "Defund the police" was a totally stupid slogan which was easily hijacked by the same people who think that everyone who disagrees with them is a communist.
@@jjhpor The problem in a lot of America however is that for a fact police are actively trained and encouraged to be more excessive in their use of force to the point that they are given lectures and courses on it. It isn't just small town cops looking for an excuse to wave their guns around for fun against black kids and blame them for it- it's now an inherent part of the system. Police brutality is as big a problem as it is in America in spite of all the constant controversy, because they are being enabled by the system that trains them.
It's sad, really. Harry seems impressed and happy to see some young rookies with skill. If they hadn't turned out to be ###holes, I think Harry would've taken them under his wing to train them right.
@@jjhpor There should be a mandated rotation and limits as to how long someone can be a Patrol Officer / Deputy. Just like I think there should be limits on Deployments for Military Members. People can only take so much. Many LEO's isolate and don't get together with other Officers after their initial "rookie" years but some do. Most want to socialize with "normal" people and NOT other cops. They need to detach.
Magnum Force is my favourite dirty harry movie. Villians were so much more interesting than Scorpio. Love the fact that what they were guilty of wasnt that far removed than what Callahan would normally do - take out the trash.
Spihk Heartbust!? Analyze & discuss why Bozeman Hotmail Recipient's Car would shutdown after dude in more expensive car parked behind Bozeman Hotmail Recipient Car that is not as expensive
Not officer Sweet, if you re-watch the movie. He was friends with the 3 dirty cops, but not dirty himself (as I recall, Sweet didn't know that his friends were vigilantes. I guess he thought they wanted to be proficient with firearms, and be law-abiding LEOs)
I was just thinking that at the end of the clip. That whole area would be an echo chamber. They just hung the earmuffs on the railing when they should be hanging outside the door and be donned before entering.
Back in the day, we didn't wear hearing protection very often... After the first couple of shots, it didn't bother you that much... Which probably helps explain why our hearing is crap these days...
There's a scene later when Harry's partner, Early said the academy thought all four of these guys were gay. Harry basically said he be O K. If the whole force was gay if they could shoot like that.
Dwight A Felton Perry who played Smith went on to be Johnson one of the executives in Robocop and two sequels again as Johnson as a more corrupt higher official:
Best of the Dirty Harry sequels and 2 of the actors would go on to star in 3 Aaron Spelling-produced action series (David Soul in Starsky & Hutch and Robert Urich in SWAT & Vega$).
The still at 1:24 is very artistic, cool filming. Usually the golden mean speaks to your eye, but in this case the focus is perfectly centered, with one guy (framed closer) to the right, and three guys (framed further away) equaling sides. The colors are also contrasting: pink and turquoise (aka red and blue clash). One of my favorite scenes in the film.
I imagine he meant he uses lighter loads for competition, since time is a factor. He would be smart to use lighter weight fast expanding bullets for the street (180 grain) to reduce the chance of over-penetration. Fun fact: SFPD was one of few agencies to issue the S&W .41 mag revolver in the late 60's and early 70's, along with El Paso and 1 or 2 others. Always surprises me that they issued something that powerful. In the liquor store robbery scene in The Enforcer, the patrol sgt covering the front of the store appears to have one. It's definitely an N frame, and the muzzle and chamber mouths look bigger than .357. I have a Ruger in 41 Mag. Great cartridge. Still need an S&W.
I have the same model 29 clint had in this movie. It looks and sounds bad ass just like in the movie. Sounds like thunder when you let one off, definitely grabs people attention, especially people all around you are shooting 9mm. Most accurate big bore revolver I've ever owned and shot, where you point it its shoots. Best $1400 I've ever spent.
As movie scenes go this is an absolute classic! Look at all the people in this scene and I think you'll agree with Clint that they certainly show a sense of style!!
Notice how long it took him to say, “No that’s alright.” I feel like nowadays, people would be in such a rush to answer. Conversations were so much more lax back then.
I noticed that too, what a great little extra beat that was! It draws you into the scene. Sergio Leone watched Rawhide and noticed that Eastwood could "steal a scene right at the end" without much effort, and the Man with No Name was created. Fact: Only Hollywood star to ask for some of his lines to be cut.
Movies nowadays are 10 second ADD bursts that don't show any feeling or humaness. It's just flash from one scene to the next without any character development.
@@LarrySealeArcheryCoach if you analyze this scene, you see Harry's cop instincts kicking in by asking what they're doing there at that hour. But then the four rookies kind of act like Harry's groupies, saying they've heard about him and then asking about what kind of load he uses. So Harry is sort of in a conflict because he sees them being there as a red flag but they're also stroking his ego to lower that red flag. The psychology of this scene is what fascinates me, the way Eastwood could show that conflict through his acting. Even when they leave, he watches them leave, but then he kind of smirks because they managed to impress him. Superb acting by all of them.
I don't believe Hollywood has turned out a more rounded star than Eastwood. TV, movies, acting, writing, directing, producing. How many awards has the man won? I think most who have worked with him have described it as some of their most enjoyable work.
I have watched this scene lots of times and I just realised he is either making a deliberate arrow or maybe even a “greater than” symbol. It makes the accuracy and precision that much better.
David Soul Kip Niven and Robert Ulrich were essentially unknowns at the time but this movie got them noticed and same with Tim Matheson who had acted in the early 1960s but this movie made him more known before he went on to star in Animal House in 1978 and have a long successful career in acting as did Ulrich, Niven, and Soul.
Joel Sims I know he was but he was not on the tv show SWAT until it started season 1 in 1975 and ran until 1976. Magnum Force was before when filmed in 1972 to be released in 1973. Tim Matheson at the time was only one that been more shows since 1960s and David Soul had small parts on tv shows before Magnum Force
IMO this is better than the first. And I have no problem with vigilante cops knocking off known criminals that get off in court on technicalities. Wish it happened more today!
I never saw this movie before watching this clip. at first I thought it was just slow paced and awkward, chalking it up to maybe old movies were just like that to me. Then we see that guy shoot so fast and basically keep up with Harry. And then he completely puts over the other guy in the group as "dog nuts". suddenly I understand everything, this scene was not slow and awkward, it was tension I was feeling. a great scene.
I love the first film. Its a classic. But I like the story of Magnum Force better. This scene is great. They're all friendly with each other but there is something going on below the surface. That creepy vibe of something not quite right. Clint is just the coolest cat on the planet
Anyone else actually love the idea that Harry's choice of firearm and ammunition was meticulous and carefully chosen rather than just "the most powerful handgun in the world"? It's a bit of a retcon yeah, but it means that when he talks about the 44 to criminals, there's an extra layer to the psychological intimidation factor there. That or he uses the special rounds for practice and the magnum ones when he carries. Either way it reflects a lot about Harry as a character, in that he's not just this badass Machiavellian loose cannon, but someone with a sense of righteousness under that exterior. He never called himself Dirty Harry, others did, and it's because he can make the tougher choices. He's doing his job without compromises and the best way he knows how.
I love target shooting. I had a Walther PPK from Germany hand-made. It was awesome. It's just getting so damn expensive! Going through a box of .380 ammo, ear protection rental and range time is nearly $30!
I had a PPK/S a few years ago. I never took to it so I sold it. A few years later The Woman, who is now my ex, wanted to learn to shoot. I used that as an excuse to buy a CZ 75B SA, which I had always wanted. Hey, it was around Christmas time! She loved shooting and talked about going at least once a month. Hell! That's money! So I bought bulk ammo online. I don't have her anymore, but I still have the CZ and a few hundred rounds of ammo!
A few things to consider when Clint says "a light .44 special": We are only hearing him say the word "special", we don't know if he meant the caliber .44 Special or if he meant a .44 magnum "specially" loaded to lighter pressures. Since any .44 Special in a Model 29 would be "light" to begin with, I tend to think the latter rather than the former. I interpret it as he hand loaded his .44 magnums lighter than factory specs in order to get faster followup shots while still retaining much of the power of the magnum load.
@@dougbrowne9890 I think the video skips at that part, pretty sure he says shooting .44 spl ammo out of his .44 Magnum revolver gave him less recoil than shooting full-power .357 magnum wadcutter rounds out of a .357 magnum revolver. If that IS the correct interpretation, I'm not sure that 44spl has less felt recoil than shooting .357 wadcutters, but who knows.
@@JJ_SDWR I have the movie on DVD and it does the same as well referring to the .357 comment. I never understood why, but I think it was referring to a comparison to shooting a .357 with wad cutters, which is a practice round intended for shooting at paper targets, I believe.
Range qualification days. I do miss them. It is a bit strange that the mock up for the scene isn't longer. I've never been to a police range this short. 50 meters is pretty standard from the firing line. This looks more like 30,.. from the barrier. Firing a .44 in such an enclosed space without sound buffers on the walls. You'll be hearing those shots throughout the precinct. LOUD hardly describes it.
This was actually filmed at the Oakland police range which was running up until the early 2000s but was shut down due to air circulation. One of our range instructors just posted the clip, hence my comment 1 year later from yours.
RIP David Soul who passed on the 4th and Rip to Robert Urich and Kip Niven. Crazy to think Tim Matheson is only one still alive of the 4 actors playing the vigilante cops.
I remember watching this in the drive in with my high school sweetheart. We had "dinner" at the Dairy Queen before we went to the movies. Great times. I miss her and those days.
I hear ya. The good days when we had movies, malls, dates,
remember when we could actually go out to do that? Pepperidge Farm remembers
Didja get a lick of her soft serve later?
I went there with my gf for a bannana split.
16 year old girlfriend and a vw bus..watch the first and last 5 minutes of the movie so she could tell her parents about the movie!..still the best,wildest sex I ever had!1975.
I love the scene later in the film where it appears Harry loses in the combat championship vs one of these guys, but actually he'd borrowed their gun and intentionally missed a shot so that he could recover it and test it for ballistics. He's one smooth muther!
Notice how Sweet seemed nervous about the missed shot? Like he knew Callahan was up to something. After seeing Callahan shoot at the indoor range he kind of knew Callahan missed on purpose.
@@kisshooters69 Yeah good stuff. An interesting film. It made a real point of reminding audiences that Harry doesn't preemptively kill people, like those guys, and that he still obey the law and follows the system. A foil to sensitive moviegoers who might have started to get jittery around the idea that he was fascist power or such like. And then I guess Robocop etc came along and had a field day with the same concepts.
@@mikefoster6018 Like Harry said, "I hate the damn system, but until something better comes along I'm gonna follow it."
Davis ( David soul) was the vibe who killed officer Charlie McCoy and the guy who the police had under surveillance. The surveillance cops saw Charlie McCoy fall over on the motorcycle, then he went into the building. I think Charlie McCoy was the killer at the beginning who killed the mobster and guys in the car at traffic stop.
@@mkrny111 I now need to rewatch!
Remember when movies used to let a scene breath? Minimal cuts and the actors felt like real people. There's a moment when Clint is putting his ear protectors on, they don't go on quite right at first and he adjusts them. It makes everything that much more believable, more authentic. That would have been cut in a modern movie.
I love the way Clint handles the .44 as he aims at the target. It looks like he has done this a thousand times before. What an actor!
Movie audiences now would be squirming in their seats. Attention span of a gnat
You make an excellent point.
No distracting music. Makes you feel as if you are there.
Nowadays every second is calculated and run through focus groups and marketing analysts, everything is so unnatural and contrived. I like it dirty and a little flawed.
At 92 years old as of 2022, take time to appreciate Clint Eastwood's talent and charisma.
Be fine after he dies.
AMEN and HALLELUJAH!
"A man's got to know his limitations." Clint does and has thrived in spite of those limitations and within them. One of his best career moves was to apply his experiences in and among talented actors to work from behind the camera.
Yeah, he won't be with us much longer. Sucks how nobody makes it out alive.
And ,and ,and ,and ....and
I like how Harry is both impressed, likes the kids, but knows something is fucking up.
Because those kids shot like trained killers, and several criminals had been assassinated brutally and efficiently; Clint started to see a pattern here.
Great acting all round. David Soul was just magnificent. I believe he passed several years ago.
@@freegraceprotestant it was this year Jan 2024
@@ronjones9447 thank you. I remember reading it online. What an absolutely superb actor.
@@freegraceprotestantDavid Soul died January of this year.
I remember the Dirty Harry movies for their action and violence, but I tend to forget how well directed and acted they could be.
This short scene is a little gem.
I like when he wasted dangerous and violent criminals and nobody called him a racist if they happened to be black.
There's nothing more dangerous than those who feel they are above the law and know their weapons. That feeling comes across real well in this scene. Harry was sizing them up here and his final verdict was that going against them was going to be very deadly even for him.
@@tjp1451 Harry was an extremist but he still stuck to morals and the law. That's one reason I like Magnum Force is here he is being figured for being a man for star chamber justice which those cops are for. But he is not. It's apparently quite difficult for people to actually get a read on Callahan, one way or the other.
It's not so much he looks to dispense his own justice, he is just reckless about it. Willing to stick his own neck into the fire. But that recklessness can get others killed.
Many people forget how well done they were. I was one of them.
@@samsonguy10k At this point in the movie, Harry didn't even suspect vigilante cops were operating in the Department and had no reason to be wary of these four rookies. But the shot where Harry is downrange and framed between the four in closeup, with Harry in the same position as the targets, foreshadows their future confrontation in the parking garage. Subtle visual cue there.
Harry knew something was up with these guys from the jump. His instincts were spot on.
I don't see that here. I see him thinking these younger guys were kind of like him, taking firearm proficiency seriously. It wasn't until the competition that he felt something was up, and that people were being murdered by someone they didn't expect, like a police officer. That may have been after his partner was murdered in the garage.
Harry thought it was Charlie McCoy that did all the killings until McCoy was killed and DeGiorgio told Harry that Davis was the first guy at the scene. Harry then suspected the four and purposely missed the last target practice shot with Davis's gun to have ballistics compare it to the bullet that killed McCoy. When the three rogue cops confronted Harry in the garage, it confirmed to him they were the killers. He didn't know Briggs was their leader until Briggs pulled the gun on him in the car. Briggs thought Harry would join his vigilante force. He was wrong.
@@jameshoran8 Good summary.
I agree. Sweed let the cat out of the bag, by telling Harry they all came directly from military special forces! Harry's RADAR went up. He wasn't sure, but more than a little suspicious.
@@jameshoran8 whos the old cop with grey hairs peeking out that shot the black pimp in the pink Cadillac? Kinda weird dont ya think
When he hands Harry his glasses before he shoots the .44, it's kind of a calm display of power, they're respectful throughout the scene but the fact that they are fucking with him in a subtle way makes this is great part of the film.
Robert Urich's character is so into the game that he can't hold in that grin-says everything about what's happening here, and with that he steals the scene!
A group of good young actors there. David Soul, Tim Matheson, Robert Ulrich and Kip Nevin. For me, the best of the Dirty Harry movies.
It's a great movie but Dirty Harry is the best one.
I agree, this has a sense of style that Dirty Harry doesn't. But there's a grittiness in DH that this one lacks.
@@rabbitflatfilms5179
At the end (DH) Harry throws his badge in the water. In MF, he's got to fight a rogue element within the system he hates because he's resolved to "stick with it." MF may have a different flavor, but it isn't lacking in grittiness.
As of today (9/7/2023), only Matheson and Soul are still with us.
I liked all of them, but Magnum Force was probably my favorite too.
Everyone should own the Dirty Harry box set.
I do.
I got mine...
Agreed.
Everyone should also read the Dirty Harry books as well. Duel For Cannons,
Death on the Docks, and a few more. Really good short story books.
I just got the Dirty Harry movies
Perfect example of male bonding. No nose-to-nose jerkish nonsense. Just a shared interest and appreciation for each others' abilities.
Or so he thought.
@@SirPlusOfCamelot lol yep
They were a death squad and invited him to join but he refused and told them they're wrong! Los Angeles police had a death squad. Anybody else here remember?
No kissing and hugging?😂
Yep… and then they went all vigilante and killed everybody… 😮
I like the acting in this scene. You can instantly tell this group of cops are tight and have a real friendship.
You can instantly tell that you shouldn’t turn your back on them either.
They were Vets from Nam…
RIP David Soul, thank you for all the classic memories including you in "Starsky & Hutch" and also in "Magnum Force". I also enjoyed you singing "Don't Give Up On Us" and "Silver Lady". I'm very sad 😢 and very sorry 😢 to hear of your passing away, you will never be forgotten and you will always be remembered.
he doesn't disappoint in the FBI murders either
@@adamhepburn9701 he was also in a Cold War thriller with Brian Keith, Rock Hudson and a cute Kathy lee Crosby called world war 3
@@ronjones9447 saw that one on TV. Very similar to Ice Station Zebra.
@@sid1gen both were very good
@@ronjones9447 Agree
One of the greatest lines ever in the movies, was Eastwood at the end of this movie, when he stated that "a man's got to know his limitations". His glib delivery is what made it work so perfectly.
The cast in this scene is stellar. The interplay is friendly and light but all the time Harry is still at work, watching as they reveal themselves.
Cracking scene.
And at the same time, Davis is sitting back there all calm, cool and collected, sizing up Callahan just as he is doing to them. He's obviously not as impressionable as the others, and it shows.
This movie was a masterpiece, plain and simple. My favorite next to the original.
I don't think he had any idea at this point that the rookies were doing the killings...
@@serverlan763 He didn't. No one did.
Well, he's admiring their shooting, so.
No, he probably did not, BUT he realized something was definitely off about these guys. He didn’t know what.
Clint doesn't even look like he's acting. He's one cool cat.
He doesn't look like he's doing anything. I've never rated him for acting. But it's excellent that he's helped put so many movies up and created work and great films. Bryan Brown is another who I don't rate as an actor, but he also has helped build the industry and contributed to projects and helped create work.
@@barryschwarz You sound like you're familiar with theater. IIRC, Bryan Brown worked with Brian Dennehy in a 1980s movie about special effects where Bryan Brown gets set up by some rogue government people.
@@filippocorti6760 Yeah, "F/X" (as in 'special eFfects (X). I saw it years before I got to work with Brown.
@@barryschwarz I just googled your name with the term actor before it. Were you in Mash and Leprechaun 2?
@@filippocorti6760 It's not my real name. I worked with Brown on an Australian film he also produced. More than that begins to uncover my anonymity, so.... :-)
Great scene. The way that cop looks so shy and "oh I cannot certainly use this hand cannon, oh please no" and then stern face and tightly grouped shots. Callahan's face after this has no price!
Right! And then, "Airborne Rangers...Special Forces," said with that boyish look, messy hair and glasses perched on his nose, as if he'd just finished a day in middle school. I enjoyed the huge difference between the shy, boyish surface and the underlying, deadly capability.
@@benvoronov2306that’s a grown man in real life they would probably win rangers lead the way. it’s common sense action speaks the loudest you don’t have to act tough u can yell etc too cause fear though esp if young.
I saw Clint Eastwood in person, just a few feet from me, when I was with my first wife in Carmel, CA, many, many moons ago. He passed right by our table, at a bar restaurant in the valley and just smiled at us. In fact, I remember I was better dressed than he was that night. By his down to earth demeanor, you could never tell that he was a Hollywood celebrity. They don't make them like this anymore.......
Ariel Fornari he is one of a few great actors still with us.
That smile is as alpha as they come.
if it was at the Hogs Breath Inn before 1999...he was the owner
I saw Clint there, believe it or not he was working the door.... he's a good sized unit, 6'3'' or something..
Nobody cares with who you were, fuckwit.
Yesterday after my wife’s chemo infusion We were passed by a SFPD motor cop who then pulled in to the side entrance of a big grey concrete building. It was the SFPD Headquarters. I told my wife, “and that’s where Inspector Callahan used to work”. She never gets my humor.
Hope she's OK, Jay.
Chemo brain fog?
I do. Hilarious!
Hope your wife gets better.
Hope she’s okay.
I was in the army when this came out and stationed in Germany. Movies were on reel to reel and i watched this a hundred times. In the end a motorcycle goes flying off the dock and I'd play it over and over in reverse. Eastwood was, is and will always be the greatest that ever came from Hollywood. This movie if it came out today will still beat everything else. It is classic.
@Jethro Derp Yep, the good ole days and movies were much better.
If you were in the army you would know rangers aren’t special forces. Maybe spec ops
@@joshuastefanick4806 I was in the Army. Don't know what you are talking about. Learn to read.
A movie like this wouldn't be allowed today. Unless the Dirty Harry character was a 5ft, 90lb lesbian who uses pronouns and is out to smash the patriarchy.
@@St_AngusYoung That will be the Hollywood remake.
This movie with the backdrop of what old San Francisco used to look like brings back great memories and what a great movie!!👍👏🎯
Also not mentioned directly was that Harry shot the .44 magnum with only one hand while casually standing whilst the the other officer had to use both hands while taking a slightly crouched tactical stance to achieve the same marksmanship.Shooting a .44 magnum single handed that fast and attaining that level of marksmanship is incredible. Those other officers are not at the same level as Harry.
So they hit the target accurately and faster but "weren't at the same level as Harry??" because Harry used one hand?
Really?
Hollywood bravado beats a street smart cop?
I don't think so.
Doesn't Harry end up beating them with his wits and experience anyway
@@JBliehall it’s like fighting with one arm tied behind your back. More impressive that way.
Tbf the rookie was shooting alot faster than Harry.
Otter was using the Modern school of shooting….a la Weaver and the Two handed stance.
David Soul is a class actor who deserved a bigger career in cinema than he got.
Beating his wife up ended that.
TRUTH
Domestic abuse, drug and alcohol dependency kills most anything good. or potential to be good.
Everyone thought it would happen, be he kind of self destructed.
As a submarine missile technician, The Fifth Missile was unwatchable. I even read the book. There is no way to secretly unload and reload a Trident missile. It takes way too many people. David Soul played the CO.
Only Matheson and Eastwood remain. Who would have thought that Eastwood would outlive all these guys?
@jawtek82
It is sad. I know Ulrich died in his early 50s. Credit to them all it is a fine film.
They were chain smokers, only east wood and tim didn’t smoke
@@kenm2709 Eastwood has quite the health regimen.
Those earmuffs look like tuna fish cans.😊
Don’t know other man. Just Clint, David soul, Robert Urich, and Tim Matheson 👍
It makes me sad that these guys were vigilantes. You think: Finally there are cops like Dirty Harry. And yet, Harry was not a vigilante. He came close to going over the line, but he did it right.
He was a cop. His interpretation of the law was hard line. A vigilante would be a person outside the law. Mr. Callahan was the law.
Actually in the first movie he tears up the rule book at the end and does it his way, in this one he upholds it to a degree
The way he watched those guys, as they walked away afterwards...you can tell, right off the bat, that he knew something was wrong, but he couldn't quite make out what was going on. Not just yet. When he heard the Blond guy described as "Mad dog crazy", though, it must've raised a bunch of red flags in his mind. Eventually, he'd be proven right. They were their own twisted form of "Justice".
@@ronaldshank7589 I was just thinking the same thing. The director didn't include those last seconds of the scene for nothing.
@@starwarsroo2448 Not really, he gave the Punk a chance to surrender at the end of the first. He went for his gun.
I bunked off school one afternoon with my mate Laurence to go and see Magnum force at the cinema when I was 15, it actually got me into shooting as a sport, so it's kinda engraved in my mind, I know the film word for word and followed all the other dirty Harry films, and yes I ended up buying a Smith and wesson model 29 44 magnum.
Philip Cave. Right on man.
I saw it the weekend it came out
Ok kid
That's so awesome. My name is laurence with a "U" not a "W" kinda rare. Lol
You mean ditched ?
How long you been in the US ?
What a great movie, great cast, Rest In Peace Hal Holbrook 🙏🙏
IMO the finest movie of Clint Eastwood's career. The acting, dialogue, character and story development,action and pacing were flawlessly executed here in a masterly manner. First saw this movie in 1984 at age 13 and never forget it. 1-23-2023
I go with The outlaw Josey Wales....
Tim Matheson ( Sweet) is in real life an avid handgun shooter. That probably really was him shooting that rapid double action string. Even with lighter 44 loads, that's pretty damn good!
I also thank the man for producing Blind Fury, aka a Zatoichi remake.
Especially when he’s bustin’ off rounds rapid-fire…with a .44 Magnum,no less. That’s the first time I actually saw that.
Leave it to Beaver
He is also president of the Delta Tau Delta fraternity at Faber College
He learned to shoot as Johnny Quest...
One of my favorite scenes in this great movie. It puts those four cops on Dirty Harry's radar (without him knowing anything) and helps set the tone. And I think all four of these guys had good acting careers after this. Astrachan just passed away two months ago. What a great cast.
That was David Soul, Tim Matheson, Robert Ulrich and Kip Niven as the rookies. Soul and Ulrich played well known TV cops (Starsky & Hutch/ Dan Tanna in Vega$ and Spencer for Hire respectively) and Matheson and Niven did TV and movies. Impressive cast.
wow i didn't recognize ulrich.
"Spenser" with an "s," like the poet. Lol. That was a good series as was Tanna. The man passed away at far too young an age. The novels by Robert Parker make for an easy, enjoyable summer's read. Snappy dialogue, though his girlfriend is a bit of a drag on the action at times.
Such a cool movie & scene. Also great to see a young Robert Urich, David Soul & Tim Matheson who were all just getting started back in those days.
I recognized them. Now who's the fourth guy?
KoolCat ! Dint forget kip.he was in some BIG movies
David Soul wasn't exactly just getting started with his career, he'd been acting since the 60's appearing on tv shows like Star Trek.
tenhirankei Kip Niven. He played the killer in "New Year's Eve"
tenhirankei fourth guy is Kip Niven who played Red Astrachan
I like how Harry didn’t need hearing protection until he started shooting. The noise in the place would have been unbelievable and he didn’t need them when he came into range 😀
Oh I cringed hard on that one. The din n there, especially with the concrete walls and no sound proofing would be insane. But this is Callahan we're talking about. His ears are made of anger and cannot be destroyed.
@@sid2112 i use plugs and muffs whenever i shoot, it's way too easy to damage your hearing. it never gets better! *tinnitus goes brrrrrrrrrr*
I only visited outdoor ranges and the gunfire was already blowing my eardrums, I cannot imagine walking NEAR a concealed room like this without protection.
Huh, what you say? I know back in my earlier years between shooting without hearing protection & near the stage rock concerts have taken it's toll on my hearing. I always laugh when I watch movies where there is a shootout inside a warehouse and one shooter throws a drink can or something else as a direction diversion for the other shooter and he reacts, in a real world after the first shot or two without hearing protection you wouldn't be able to hear anything but your ear drums ringing. I gotta also say that after I saw this movie I went out and bought a basic Ruger Security 6 .357 magnum with a 4" barrel but upgraded to a target special Smith and Wesson model 19 .357 magnum with a 6" barrel a couple of years later which I still have to this day.
@@Serpico1152 I love my S&W Model 19 .357 Magnum which I was gifted by my Dad back in 1972. 6" barrel with a target trigger, sights and hammer. Still the most accurate handgun I own right up there with my .357 Magnum Colt Python also with a 6" barrel but nickle plated. Cheers! PS: I still can't hit diddly squat with an automatic but a revolver baby, I'm dead on.
Love this scene. My buddy from high school joined the army enlisted and eventually became part of Special Forces as a Green Beret. He was a skinny, awkward loner in high school but was a gifted x-country runner, stoic and with a very high IQ. Reminds me of the guy here, complete sleeper Airborne Ranger. Great casting.
The prevailing image of Special Forces seems to be the macho bearded hulk type figure. I think that many guys in that field are oddballs in real life but have some super power that gets them into these elite roles.
I know these guys ended up being the antagonists but I love the dialogue that happens later when Harry and his partner were talking about these four guys:
"They stick together like flypaper, you know? Everybody thought they were queer for each other."
"Tell you something. If the rest of you could shoot like them, I wouldn't care if the whole damn department was queer."
The movie is about moral ambiguity. We had to take a liking for these well groomed and polite guys. I would call this the primer coat of characterization.
@Jackalofdeath So this was the primer. We see a killer and find him charming instead of finding one charming and finding out he is a killer. I had my chronology wrong. It seems to work both ways. In the same manner I wouldn't know off the bat.
I hear the sound of a mind closing.
As Barry Goldwater said, "I don't care if they're not straight, so long as they shoot straight."
@@mikecimerian6913 Excellent point.
This clip is a gem from Magnum Force! Clint, David Soul, et all played important roles.
"Speaking of whale shit, what have you turned up, Briggs?"
Callahan is _savage_
RIP Hal Holbrook. What an awesome character actor.
My father always disagreed with this scene. His distaste is, traffic motor officers are actually and elite unit in many Ca Police Departments. You can't just go into traffic after the Police Academy (all motor officers are experts in drug/alcohol detection and traffic investigators [ technically detectives]). Pop was 30 years in the LAPD and retired a Captain in 2000. But he loves the movie.
On 2Wheels ~ Cool info ... Did not know all the qualifications necessary to ride motors . 👌``
As a LAPD traffic officer for 16 years, I can tell you that you can go to a traffic division pretty quickly out of a Police Academy, but you will be working Collision Investigation which is a patrol assignment where you take traffic reports. From there you apply to Motor school and get your bike. Someguys will come out of regular patrol duties and apply to Motor duty. Those guys are not expertsin traffic investigations (they should be because if the Collision Investigators get overwhelmed,the Motor officers have to pick up the slack)
No California agency will assign rookies, out of the academy into motors. Maybe what you say to work as a traffic officer, but not as a motor officer. That was the point of the comment... Motor officers are a cliquish bunch especially in the LAPD. Heck, no 'traffic officer' can work a lucrative movie shoot job in their city. Those are reserved for the 'motors' crowd.
Movie jobs@Smile 4Dflash. Like the UA-camr Officer Rob he's now with the Air Support Div. LAPD. He vlogs from his movie jobs.
On 2Wheels A lot of LAPD fatalities were from that unit no?
The way these films were structured remains a lesson in storytelling and setting a convincing character in motion. You have to find out what happens next. That, my friends, is art.
This was the BEST of the Harry movies.
Rest in peace Robert Urich, Kip Niven, and Hal Holbrook. This movie has two of the antagonists of the fletch movies with Chevy chase. Tim Matheson portrayed the antagonist Alan Stanwyck in the first fletch movie, and Hal Holbrook portrays the antagonist Hamilton Johnson in the second fletch movie.
RIP David Soul
Great scene, from an awesome movie. Kudos to Mr. Eastwood for making quality movies on a small budget.
R.I.P. to Kip Niven (Red Astrachan) who passed this year in May and Robert Urich (Mike Grimes) In 2002 and now David Soul who passed away 1/4/2024 at age 80
Bob I met to say Urich and did edit the post
Bob yea he does Robert Urich is a damn good actor and felt he became pretty successful as did Tim Matheson after Magnum Force
@@scottknode898 Robert Urich was so underrated. Beautiful actor
@@scottknode898 Tim Matheson was great in Burn Notice and seems to be a noted director these days.
cologne2792 Burn Notice was one of my favorite shows and he did good as the psychotic former CIA agent. He was in the movie Black Sheep as Chris Farleys brother and The West Wing tv show. My favorite role of his was as Otter in Animal House
Gotta love those old training targets that teach you to gut-shoot.
Yeah, no center mass training then, I guess. The one that Sweet "missed" was dead center and would have more effect than the stomach shots.
Isn't the idea of a gut shot to disable the perp but not necessarilly kill him?
In reality, you're lucky to actually hit anyone anywhere when in a real gunfight with the adrenaline pumping, lighting conditions, subject moving around. You aim for the biggest target which is Center Mass. If someone is trying to kill you, you want to neutralize them quickly to stop the threat. It usually takes a while for someone to stop fighting when hit in the stomach. They usually bleed out slowly and in the mean time can still be shooting at you.
At the time, some pistol instructors taught shooters to aim for the "Pelvic Girdle," because so much in the way of bones, organs, etc. was there to hit, and the idea was for more "stopping power" that way. (Sadly, the recent shooting of a Congressman comes to mind, a shot in that area can do tremendous damage.)
Today, many Police and other pistol shooters train for "Center Mass" shots, which tend to go for the chest as the center aiming point. I guess they figure instinct is more to aim that way in a crisis.
Or going home to crack open a beer. Ouch.
Of course Otter knows how to handle guns. He’s been using them ever since he was a kid ...Johnny Quest!
Did not know that - thanks!
He learned from D-Day at Delta House
And so would Spenser. Though he was more fond of autos in his future show.
Yep Ol Tim’s gotta be around 70 ish now. Nice long career in the biz!
Thanks. I had no idea he played Quest.
That was Eric Stratton and he was damn glad to meet you.
Otter!
He was also Jonny Quest
underrated comment...
Actually..his Name is Tim Mattheson ..Original Voice of Johnny Quest on Cartoon Network .
@@Michael-qg7os Actually "Jonny Quest" was on ABC-TV, waaayy back in the early 1960s. During the PRIMETIME viewing period. By the time it reached "The dreaded Cartoon Network", it was in "re-run hell"!
So, Otter became a SF cop after his years at Delta House.
+Mitch A. And Grimes changed his name then went on to become a PI in Las Vegas.
But not before he was a SWAT officer for the WCPD.
That set him up for the U.S. Senate then the Vice President
And Davis went on to be a detective with some guy named Starsky.
Mitch A. II
who could forget Hal Holbrook as the evil 'Lt. Briggs' in this great flick.
jasonwheel your gun's out of its holster. First time?
He was more Evil in Men of Honor
Your gun is out of its holster Briggs.
You're a good man, Briggs. A good man always knows his limitations.
DE Fiverr Two other good quotes from Briggs and Harry are “ I only work for the city Briggs,” “ So I do, longer then you and I have never had to take my gun of it’s holster once, I am proud of that” “ Your a good man Lt, a good man knows his limitations” at the end of the movie “ The only way your going is in a rubber bag”
I remember watching this movie 🎥 for the first time in late 1988 on local television station and in the summer of 1989 on either Cinemax, HBO or Showtime, and boy that I enjoy this movie. Furthermore this is my favorite Dirty Harry movie 🎥.
It's the best in my opinion. Many great scenes, and the writing, music and acting all are superb
Eastward never blinks his eyes when shooting. The only actor, as far as I know, to do so. Amazing control.
That .44 is a beautiful piece of hardware
Model 29-2 with a 6.5-inch pinned barrel, as well as reccessed chambers. Made in the late 60's, back when Smith & Wesson was king.
back when actors were really good, not hamming for the camera like too many do in the last 10 years
i agree. actors used to try to portray their subjects and now it's like actors are just playing actors.
MsCordially I couldn't agree more. Just think of such utter dip sh!ts like Wesley Snipes, Jean-Clause van Damme, Bruce Willis and Steven "Seagull". Each worst in their own category. The mere thought of these bone heads makes me sick.
keanu reeves is awesome though.
Its about having a scene play out slow and smoothly; it brings everyone into clint eastwood’s calmness
Back then, actors knew they were good so they didn't need to embellish themselves. Better than most of what we have today.
Damn, the transition Tim Matheson made from four-eyed All-American boy to stone-cold killer right before shooting.
That was downright scary.
David Souls Davis to going from killing Officer McCoy and crime boss Guzman in one scene to helping McCoys wife and kids at the funeral.
Great movie with great cast Eastwood , Halbrook , David Soul and Robert Urrich
Too bad we can't have movies like this anymore
Robert Urich, David Soul, and Tim Matheson went on to have good careers in movie and TV--Niven did, to an extent, as well...
It's a shock to see Spenser, Hutch, and Otter as killer cops...
absolute truth ... tragic for Urich, a cancer victim at such a young age ... Soul was magnificent - watch "Key to Rebecca" to fully appreciate his brilliance !!!
"Don't drop it." This film is cool and real. Like watching a documentary. Clint Eastwood at his best.
Aside from you can't slap a supressor on an open cylinder gapped revolver and have it work.
Davis knew full well that wasn't going to happen.
I took that to mean don't drop the shot not drop the gun
I often wonder how these 4 young and new actors at the time felt acting along side of Clint in this scene
I like the pause after Davis volunteers to leave the range. Perfect suspense. Until Harry says - No, thats allright.
"You boys rookies?"
35-year-old looking boy: Yes, sir.
Yeah they would be more 21 to 28
@@dannutefall5150 David Soul was 29 when they filmed this scene
You know what a rookie is supposed to right?
David Soul was the oldest of the group. He was 29 when it was filmed, Matheson was 25, Urich was 26 and Niven was 27.
@@soundofimpact3924 Wait, David Soul? From Starsky and Hutch? Would have never guessed.
Rookie year on the PD: Get together with your other fellow Officers. Go to the range before or after work. Go out for a few beers afterwards.
15 plus years on the PD: Show up at the range by yourself. Practice. Go home to an empty apartment. Drink.
If that's you you have my sympathy. A sad situation and it shows that we ask too much of the police. Maybe there's a limit to how long an individual should stay on the street where he is constantly reminded of to what depths of depravity humans can descend.
There was a nice article in today's paper supporting "Defund the Police" how, as intended, the concept was that it is much cheaper and better for everyone to have some of the police budget moved to some kind of psychiatric work to take the burden off of those whose job is law enforcement. I suspect more than half of police work is dealing with mental health issues. Unfortunately "Defund the police" was a totally stupid slogan which was easily hijacked by the same people who think that everyone who disagrees with them is a communist.
@@jjhpor The problem in a lot of America however is that for a fact police are actively trained and encouraged to be more excessive in their use of force to the point that they are given lectures and courses on it. It isn't just small town cops looking for an excuse to wave their guns around for fun against black kids and blame them for it- it's now an inherent part of the system. Police brutality is as big a problem as it is in America in spite of all the constant controversy, because they are being enabled by the system that trains them.
It's sad, really. Harry seems impressed and happy to see some young rookies with skill. If they hadn't turned out to be ###holes, I think Harry would've taken them under his wing to train them right.
@@jjhpor There should be a mandated rotation and limits as to how long someone can be a Patrol Officer / Deputy. Just like I think there should be limits on Deployments for Military Members. People can only take so much. Many LEO's isolate and don't get together with other Officers after their initial "rookie" years but some do. Most want to socialize with "normal" people and NOT other cops. They need to detach.
@@Hysteria98 horsecrap
Magnum Force is my favourite dirty harry movie. Villians were so much more interesting than Scorpio. Love the fact that what they were guilty of wasnt that far removed than what Callahan would normally do - take out the trash.
These boys in blue gonna know later on, “man’s gotta know his limitations”.
You're a good man lieutenant, a good man always knows his limitations
Dude! Spoiler!
R.I.P. David Soul, Kip Niven And Robert Urich
One of the best Dirty Harry movies. Besides the first one. Great cast.
I always enjoyed this scene.
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I feel so bad for Harry. 😂He's actually impressed, for one of the few times in the Dirty Harry series, and these guys are all dirty cops.
Not officer Sweet, if you re-watch the movie. He was friends with the 3 dirty cops, but not dirty himself (as I recall, Sweet didn't know that his friends were vigilantes. I guess he thought they wanted to be proficient with firearms, and be law-abiding LEOs)
If Clint walked in there without hearing protection his ears would still be ringing.
I was just thinking that at the end of the clip. That whole area would be an echo chamber. They just hung the earmuffs on the railing when they should be hanging outside the door and be donned before entering.
Our ears were tougher back then
Back in the day, we didn't wear hearing protection very often... After the first couple of shots, it didn't bother you that much... Which probably helps explain why our hearing is crap these days...
@@CurmudgeonExtraordinaire 'what 😶
@@wayne-lj4in -- I"m typing as loud as I can... 😄
My favorite of all the "Callahan" movies. It's against these good guts and the rest of the bad guys. Classic Eastwood !
There's a scene later when Harry's partner, Early said the academy thought all four of these guys were gay. Harry basically said he be O K. If the whole force was gay if they could shoot like that.
queer was actual word he used .
Early actually said everybody thought they were queer for each other.
"If the rest of you could shoot as good as they do I wouldn't care if the whole damn department was queer."
No cop will ever surpass Clint playing Dirty Harry
They all thought they were good until Robo Cop showed up.
Plus Callahan's partner was actually in Robocop.
Dwight A Felton Perry who played Smith went on to be Johnson one of the executives in Robocop and two sequels again as Johnson as a more corrupt higher official:
I can only imagine what kind of fun Ol' RoboCop would've had with these 4 jokers!
what'll it be, creep?
Robocop uses aimbot.
Best of the Dirty Harry sequels and 2 of the actors would go on to star in 3 Aaron Spelling-produced action series (David Soul in Starsky & Hutch and Robert Urich in SWAT & Vega$).
Yep. Hutch and Tanna with those big .357s.
and don't forget Otter in Animal House with his big cucumber!
And in the Enforcer Tyne Daly went on to star in gag me and lace me!
Flounder was in a deleted scene. He out shot Harry.
For those who may not get it, Flounder was a character in Animal House.
Robert Urich, Tim Matheson, and David Soul, all theses gus were young unknowns at the time. Great cast all the way through.
The still at 1:24 is very artistic, cool filming. Usually the golden mean speaks to your eye, but in this case the focus is perfectly centered, with one guy (framed closer) to the right, and three guys (framed further away) equaling sides. The colors are also contrasting: pink and turquoise (aka red and blue clash). One of my favorite scenes in the film.
I imagine he meant he uses lighter loads for competition, since time is a factor. He would be smart to use lighter weight fast expanding bullets for the street (180 grain) to reduce the chance of over-penetration. Fun fact: SFPD was one of few agencies to issue the S&W .41 mag revolver in the late 60's and early 70's, along with El Paso and 1 or 2 others. Always surprises me that they issued something that powerful. In the liquor store robbery scene in The Enforcer, the patrol sgt covering the front of the store appears to have one. It's definitely an N frame, and the muzzle and chamber mouths look bigger than .357. I have a Ruger in 41 Mag. Great cartridge. Still need an S&W.
The 44 mags in these movies sound so much cooler and badass than the real firearms lol
I have the same model 29 clint had in this movie. It looks and sounds bad ass just like in the movie. Sounds like thunder when you let one off, definitely grabs people attention, especially people all around you are shooting 9mm. Most accurate big bore revolver I've ever owned and shot, where you point it its shoots. Best $1400 I've ever spent.
Jason Cyr I’ve got one also Model 29-2, paid 1600 for mine. Your can drive nails with it at 50 yards.
Clint’s the man and he just turned 90
As movie scenes go this is an absolute classic! Look at all the people in this scene and I think you'll agree with Clint that they certainly show a sense of style!!
Revolvers definitely are the stars in this movie . 😅
David Soul perfect in this part and love the ageless Tim Matheson all American guy. 👍👍👍
Notice how long it took him to say, “No that’s alright.” I feel like nowadays, people would be in such a rush to answer. Conversations were so much more lax back then.
I noticed that too, what a great little extra beat that was! It draws you into the scene.
Sergio Leone watched Rawhide and noticed that Eastwood could "steal a scene right at the end" without much effort, and the Man with No Name was created. Fact: Only Hollywood star to ask for some of his lines to be cut.
It was like he was seriously thinking about accepting their offer to depart.
Movies nowadays are 10 second ADD bursts that don't show any feeling or humaness. It's just flash from one scene to the next without any character development.
Yes! Great catch! Today's ADD hyper world is insufferable compared to the conversational pace depicted by this scene. Nirvana.
@@LarrySealeArcheryCoach if you analyze this scene, you see Harry's cop instincts kicking in by asking what they're doing there at that hour. But then the four rookies kind of act like Harry's groupies, saying they've heard about him and then asking about what kind of load he uses. So Harry is sort of in a conflict because he sees them being there as a red flag but they're also stroking his ego to lower that red flag. The psychology of this scene is what fascinates me, the way Eastwood could show that conflict through his acting. Even when they leave, he watches them leave, but then he kind of smirks because they managed to impress him. Superb acting by all of them.
Masculinity needs a comeback in our society.
Liberals are the ones who need it
yes it does.
Victor K tell your boyfriend
Victor K
Michael Davies You're a feminine soy boy, you're not a alpha or a beta male you're an omega male. #Sad #Pathetic
I don't believe Hollywood has turned out a more rounded star than Eastwood. TV, movies, acting, writing, directing, producing. How many awards has the man won? I think most who have worked with him have described it as some of their most enjoyable work.
I have watched this scene lots of times and I just realised he is either making a deliberate arrow or maybe even a “greater than” symbol. It makes the accuracy and precision that much better.
No, that's a Hollywood phantasy. He was trying to get them all in the 10 ring, that's it.
Story has it that Aaron Spelling saw this movie and eventually cast David Soul for Starsky and Hutch and the late Robert Urich for Vegas.
David Soul Kip Niven and Robert Ulrich were essentially unknowns at the time but this movie got them noticed and same with Tim Matheson who had acted in the early 1960s but this movie made him more known before he went on to star in Animal House in 1978 and have a long successful career in acting as did Ulrich, Niven, and Soul.
You forgot about “S.W.A.T.” Robert Urich was in that show as Jim Street.
Joel Sims I know he was but he was not on the tv show SWAT until it started season 1 in 1975 and ran until 1976. Magnum Force was before when filmed in 1972 to be released in 1973. Tim Matheson at the time was only one that been more shows since 1960s and David Soul had small parts on tv shows before Magnum Force
Scott Knode that’s right. I forgot.
Scott Knode Yes . Kip Niven was in some Walt Disney t.v movies .
IMO this is better than the first. And I have no problem with vigilante cops knocking off known criminals that get off in court on technicalities. Wish it happened more today!
It happens more than you think dude .
I never saw this movie before watching this clip. at first I thought it was just slow paced and awkward, chalking it up to maybe old movies were just like that to me. Then we see that guy shoot so fast and basically keep up with Harry. And then he completely puts over the other guy in the group as "dog nuts". suddenly I understand everything, this scene was not slow and awkward, it was tension I was feeling. a great scene.
Magnum Force is the best Dirty Harry film in my opinion
I love the first film. Its a classic. But I like the story of Magnum Force better. This scene is great. They're all friendly with each other but there is something going on below the surface. That creepy vibe of something not quite right. Clint is just the coolest cat on the planet
Anyone else actually love the idea that Harry's choice of firearm and ammunition was meticulous and carefully chosen rather than just "the most powerful handgun in the world"? It's a bit of a retcon yeah, but it means that when he talks about the 44 to criminals, there's an extra layer to the psychological intimidation factor there. That or he uses the special rounds for practice and the magnum ones when he carries. Either way it reflects a lot about Harry as a character, in that he's not just this badass Machiavellian loose cannon, but someone with a sense of righteousness under that exterior. He never called himself Dirty Harry, others did, and it's because he can make the tougher choices. He's doing his job without compromises and the best way he knows how.
Great to see at the time these 4 actors when they were all unknowns
I love target shooting. I had a Walther PPK from Germany hand-made. It was awesome. It's just getting so damn expensive! Going through a box of .380 ammo, ear protection rental and range time is nearly $30!
gmccord1970 Ammo is expensive now in general unless you shoot .22LR or 9mm. .44 Magnum is around $42 to $52 a box for factory ammo.
leftcoaster67 Wow, that's ridiculous. I'd love to shoot a Magnum.
+380PPK No offense meant at all, but where in the blue hell are you buying ammo, because those boys are reaming you something hard.
This is in North Carolina. You'd think that NC being a gun friendly Southern good ole boy state it would be cheaper but it's not.
I had a PPK/S a few years ago. I never took to it so I sold it. A few years later The Woman, who is now my ex, wanted to learn to shoot. I used that as an excuse to buy a CZ 75B SA, which I had always wanted. Hey, it was around Christmas time! She loved shooting and talked about going at least once a month. Hell! That's money! So I bought bulk ammo online. I don't have her anymore, but I still have the CZ and a few hundred rounds of ammo!
That was Tim Matheson, Omega Rush Chairman, he was damn glad to meet ya 🎉 🍺
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A few things to consider when Clint says "a light .44 special":
We are only hearing him say the word "special", we don't know if he meant the caliber .44 Special or if he meant a .44 magnum "specially" loaded to lighter pressures. Since any .44 Special in a Model 29 would be "light" to begin with, I tend to think the latter rather than the former. I interpret it as he hand loaded his .44 magnums lighter than factory specs in order to get faster followup shots while still retaining much of the power of the magnum load.
I think he's using .44 special.
I think he meant .44spl caliber, and that with the weight of the gun he could shoot it better than a typical .357 load.
@@JJ_SDWR What did he mean when he said, "Like a .357 with wad cutters."?
@@dougbrowne9890 I think the video skips at that part, pretty sure he says shooting .44 spl ammo out of his .44 Magnum revolver gave him less recoil than shooting full-power .357 magnum wadcutter rounds out of a .357 magnum revolver. If that IS the correct interpretation, I'm not sure that 44spl has less felt recoil than shooting .357 wadcutters, but who knows.
@@JJ_SDWR I have the movie on DVD and it does the same as well referring to the .357 comment. I never understood why, but I think it was referring to a comparison to shooting a .357 with wad cutters, which is a practice round intended for shooting at paper targets, I believe.
Range qualification days. I do miss them. It is a bit strange that the mock up for the scene isn't longer. I've never been to a police range this short. 50 meters is pretty standard from the firing line. This looks more like 30,.. from the barrier. Firing a .44 in such an enclosed space without sound buffers on the walls. You'll be hearing those shots throughout the precinct. LOUD hardly describes it.
This was actually filmed at the Oakland police range which was running up until the early 2000s but was shut down due to air circulation. One of our range instructors just posted the clip, hence my comment 1 year later from yours.
Was expecting sweet to say." You f'd up you trusted us"
This is probably one of my favorite scenes from that movie, even though I haven't seen it in years.
RIP David Soul who passed on the 4th and Rip to Robert Urich and Kip Niven. Crazy to think Tim Matheson is only one still alive of the 4 actors playing the vigilante cops.