How To Blow An Atheists Mind! The Hovind Way.
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- Опубліковано 11 лют 2022
- I love learning more about Theism. I'm always open to having more explained to me about why folks believe. But I wasn't quite prepared to have my mind absolutely exploded by Kent Hovind's son, Eric. Apparently, that's what he's about to do...
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I'm sick of apologists telling me that I can't be empathetic. Just because *they* need a god to tell them to care about people doesn't mean the rest of us do.
I once saw footage of an atheist (probably Hitchens or Dawkins) being told by a christian that without god people would go about killing each other. The atheist in question then answered that he was glad the christian was still a believer, if that meant it would stop him from killing anyone.
I agree. As an atheist I consider it important to treat every person with dignity, empathy and equally. I am more concerned about others than the person preaching fire and brimstone. That makes me, an atheist, a better person. This is our only life. Let's make it as good as possible for everyone.
And when we reach the inevitable end of our existence remember the words of the poet Dylan Thomas to his dying father, "Do no go gently into that goodnight. Rage, rage against the dying of the light." That's my plan, anyway. Or maybe I'll just bypass that bit by falling off a mountain.
They really are scummy people. Breaks my heart. I don't feel that way about them... Makes me regret being a Baptist for 20 years...
The truth is that it is them who don't need and often do not have any empathy for others who are different than them. They are just following orders and pretending to be good out of fear that their loving God is going to have them tortured for all eternity and not of their own free will or emapthy.
@@kellydalstok8900, frankly, people that say they're restrained from mass murder only because of something they read in a magic book scare the crap outta me.
“I’m not a biologist so I shouldn’t make claims about biology” yeah, my dude, you nailed it.
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22:00 "16 times 2.......34"
Well done Eric. Looks like you learned your arithmetic from the Bible as well.
25 is my final answer!
@@1th_to_comment.Nope. 42 is the answer to life, the universe, and everything.
I mean. He'd be right in base 10.0625 or something...
Imagine having a son and then just making him believe and understand everything you do at your level.
Personally, I want my son to know so much more than I do. I am a big dumb. I don't want my son to just be a carbon copy of me.
I think Eric is like a certain number of flat earthers. He knows his arguments are bollocks, but the income stream resulting from his act is just too sweet to give up.
There is a good chance that the pope does the same thing.
so either he's too stupid to know his arguments are wrong or he's an actual con man. there might be another possibility, but these are the 2 likely ones
There are big parallels between flat earth and evangelicalism. The first time I saw a flat earth video I recognised the conversion story "Suddenly I just knew deep down that the earth was flat". The psychology is identical and subsequent reluctance to abandon something that is lucrative but demonstrably bollocks.
@@treescape7 both need faith and make-belief.. so the parallels are there
80% of christians know god doesn't exist
I just love getting lectured by scientifically illiterate fundamentalists. Eric blows alright, but he's not blowing minds.
I love kents phd thesis( not recognized). It starts with hello my name is kent hovind or something like that 🤣
Eric is a very damaged young man. Not surprising considering who his dad is. He is a prime example, of the product of child abuse. I actually feel sorry for him and his KIND, as he will never truly experience the beauty of the reality we live in, as his reality, is based on the fictitious scribblings, of ignorant bronze age men.
@@mattschm5486 "Hello my name is Kent Hovind. I am 26 years old. I like spaghetti and meatballs. My dog's name is Scruff. Some days I share my spaghetti with Scruff with my parents aren't looking."
@@vernonchitlen8958 Just because we don't know how exactly it did not happen does not make it untrue. Not once in the history of our species has ever the correct answer for anything been anything other than natural cause. And you claiming that "it'll be this time!" is nothing more than a god of the gaps fallacy.
What we do know however is that forming of pre-biotic molecules didn't happen for no reason. Exothermic environments select for more complex molecules because they are better at transmitting and releasing heat. And thus as long as the necessary ingredients are there, forming of a self-replicating molecule becomes an eventuality. And once self-replication has been achieved, complexity is only a matter of time. Heck we can very trivially simulate the evolution of complexity, and have been for years. Only willful ignorance keeps you from acquiring this knowledge. And using replication crisis as an excuse is dishonest as even if a study can't be replicated, the other studies around the subject co-aligning the results of the original basically confirm the results, and weed out the frauds.
@@Stratosarge The real
unfillable “gap” is there being a natural process from the chemical elements to life. You cannot synthesize all 20 of specific amino acids in anywhere near a collection that one protein could form from the 4 elements, hydrogen, oxygen, carbon and nitrogen. It is totally irrelevant if you “make” one molecule or 100 of RNA. Perfectly pointless. The chances are absolutely nil in being in proximity for chemistry to take place in a sea of molecules to combine. Self replicating? There are 1.6 sextillion water molecules in a drop of water. How they could possibly combine and what would preserve them for the other components for a cell to appear? The lipids, sugars and nucleic acids. The gross willful ignorance is yours. Strip a couple million amino acids from animal and or plant proteins. Dump them in a drop of pure water, absolutely nothing will happen. Not only will they be lost in a crowd of 1.6 sextillion molecules, and the energy to overcome the resistance of the amino acid molecules to bond, energy strong enough that one molecule of water gets ejected? You live in a fool’s paradise believing your imagination or the very piddling experimental evidence for abiogenesis is rational. It’s inadequate, pathetic, greased by gross exaggeration.
As somebody who studies east and south Asian history I can tell you that Eric got Hinduism and Buddhism backwards (as well as being reductionist about them to the point of absurdity). Buddhism is about achieving Nirvana, not Hinduism.
Can you imagine the corrections and hate. If someone legitimately said muslism accept Jesus. And Christian believe Muhammad was the prophet. Especially from Eric's followers. Lmao it's kinda scary Imagining that comment section.
Eric Hovind doesnt know what he talking about... The number of people shocked by that would be ZERO.
@@ReformedThe Erm, Muslims do accept Jesus though 😅 Except they believe him to be a prophet. Just like some of the early Christians thought.
@@FahadAyaz Muslims believe Jesus was a human and all that, they just don’t believe he was divine like Christian’s do
I've never studied either Buddhism or Hinduism (aside from a rudimentary summary in grade school), and *I knew* Buddists were the ones about achieving Nirvana.
When he explained that human population growth chart I face palmed so hard I went back in time.
When he explained that human population growth chart I face palmed so hard I went back in time.
Does anyone know if Erics calculations account for dramatic population loss due to cataclysms and disease?
@Aj Castro
Eric wouldn't even understand your question. Actually he wouldn't understand most of the words in your question.
@@d.o.m.494 hahaha. Your probably right
@@castajc82 I can almost guarantee you that it did not. Given that he seems to think the population doubles at a consistent rate, I would be willing to bet you that he can't take in more data points than what he spoke out loud in the video lol.
@@castajc82 cataclysms, disease, famine, loss of life to predators ... and WAR ... because humans are quite fond of killing each other ...
Only all my will power and determination allowed me to watch to the end. Every time Erik was on I could feel my brain cells plotting mass suicide.
I appreciate you sticking with it.
I didn't make it to the end. Got a couple of shots... my brain is screaming at me, "brain abuse, brain abuse, logical centers failing! Noooooooooo!!) Ok..OK... let's try it once more. Oh gosh.
"... I feel my brain cells commit suicide one by one" -Sir Hammerlock
I love that quote.
I’ve made it to the end but I was already drunk and Choo Choo choofing like a steam train
That was mind-numbingly hard to watch. I had to take a break halfway through
I feel bad for Eric. Knowing his father and how he behaves, thinks, and raised Eric, I have some measure of pity in my heart for him.
Having said that, he's a perfect example of what happens when Kent Hovinds ignorance/willing stupidity lacks his charisma. Eric seems like a genuine guy, until you see him actually interact with a skeptic, or an atheist, then after, carry on pushing the same exact points as if he only interacted with said person, to say his half and ignore the responses from the other side.
Edit: in a shock to no one, Eric did nothing but twist words, attack men of straw, and insist his religion makes sense if you would just... believe it like he does. Almost like he has no idea how to actually discuss things, and give evidence for his belief.
So many men of straw!
@@TheSkepTick do you think a scarecrow scared him as a kid and he just developed an urge to attack all people of straw?
That seems like a reasonable assumption. 😂
I feel the same way 😕 It's messed up to see this man & know his father bragged openly about beating him as a small child. At least it seems like he's protecting his own children since Kent got out of prison (at least the first time; I think he's back in jail now.)
@@dalailarose1596 from what I gather papa Hovind is appealing the court ruling that he tackled his wife, so is still out of prison for now. Unfortunately he'll likely keep the courts tied up in this useless nonsense until he dies from cyanide poisoning because he *still* insists eating fruit seeds is a cure-all.
"Does Erik just misrepresent everything?" Pretty much. Manages to smile all the way through it too.
Religion has screwed this world up.
In the grand scheme of things, anything a republican, MSM media talking head , evangelist, or white supremacist says means nothing.
Understanding the past is not an American, MSM media, nor especially a republican, evangelist, or a white supremacist trait. It is a human trait. We are screwed as long as republicans, MSM media talking heads, evangelists, or white supremacists have any sway in our discourse.
Shit happens because evangelists, republicans, MSM meat heads, and white supremacist asswipes have a say in our government.
Deflection, distraction, and projection.
This is the republican/evangelist/white supremacist playbook.
I have one question for republicans/evangelists/white supremacists. What have you done in the last 50 years to help people that aren't dickhead rich cretins or brain dead sheep?
When any of the many republican reactions fail, republicans/evangelists/white supremacists fall back on their primary trait; Deception (lying).
Face it, people, as long as meat headed republicans and the needle dicks known as white supremacists and the con men known as evangelists have a say in our government we are screwed!
How does this shit happen (Rhetorical)?
Shit happens because we allow racism/sexism to exist.
Shit happens because rich people don't care about US or climate change.
Shit happens because republicans, corporatists, and evangelists want our society to be functionally misanthropic.
Shit happens because we haven't taught our kids right from wrong.
Shit happens because we are ruled by misanthropes who don't give a shit about anyone but themselves.
Shit happens because we don't care anymore that republicans have made a mess of everything and that "R"s will save US.
Shit happens because we don't have proper media coverage.
Shit happens because we don't care anymore.
Republicans (who are mostly white supremacists, evangelicals, corporatists are not your friends.) They are the ooze from your backside and the meat from your nose.
I would like to believe we are better than that.
I can not be troubled by these assholes.
They will continue to screw US over until they have won.
The best/worst part is that when they win they will inherit the wind.
We are ruled by corporations and evangelical miscreants.
This whole world is a SHITSHOW!
We seem to be screwed no matter which way we turn.
I love US and will not be denied.
Don’t let religion screw your world up.
He says that Buddhism and Hinduism can't make any sense of evil and suffering and then proceeds to give a barely passable version of what those religions say about evil and suffering, proving that they do in fact make sense of evil and suffering.
He actually gets Hinduism and Buddhism backwards in addition to presenting them inaccurately. He's not only scientifically illiterate but also lacks religious literacy.
@@amandajayne5772 One of those - “I sTuDiEd AlL tHe CuLtUrEs AnD wOrLd ReLiGiOnS” - but says shit like this.
Also notice that people like him always ignore the AFRICAN genesis of humans and the superstition called religion!
@@tesmith47 apologies, but out of Africa theory got debunked back in 2018
@@hermithefrog629 "out of Africa theory got debunked back in 2018" Source?
Where are humans actually from? Atlantis?
Given that the four noble truths of Buddhism revolve around the source and impact of suffering, I think Eric has managed to misrepresent the religion almost entirely.
Did you think he tried to present Buddhisms honestly? Best case he’s an idiot more likely he’s a fraudster trying to defraud people
That was egregious to me as well. It is one thing to strawman atheism in your theistic con job but to utterly misrepresent and malign Buddhism just seemed purposeless. Leave them out of it broseph. They aren't, inherently, theists or atheists so back TF off. The apple doesn't fall far from the tree though, so there is that.
If I remember correctly, "punishment" through "bad karma" is relegated entirely to your rebirth in the Buddhist faith. Then again it has been ages since I looked into it so I might misremember.
He gets Buddhism and Hinduism mixed up. The classical “problem of evil” is less of a problem for either than for Christianity. That doesn’t mean either is rational, but in this respect they make more sense than Christianity or Islam.
@Martin McKee
That and he omits that Karma entails:"if you do bad things, they'll come back to bite ya."
We Christians share a similar understanding with "reaping and sewing."
But I get what he's doing, he's LYING to manipulate his audience, because explaining Buddhist philosophy might guess his listeners to become Buddhists.
Atheists aren't the only ones who treat us Christians like idiots. Religious leaders do it too.
"I have no idea what I'm talking about, but I'm obviously right anyway because God. Now, excuse me while I repeat the same old tired shit for the billionth time and present it as something new and noteworthy."
Every "creation science" preacher ever.
Just more perching to choir. Tedious, not even worth a face palm.
YEC folks get $$ from the gullible and have "all the answers" in some silly book. If you have no soul, you can make a decent living without much think. Just quote the bible and sell books, CDs; profit !
@James Henry Smith Yeah, and Sauron and the Nazgul are frantically searching for the One Ring. 🙄🤣
@James Henry Smith .....
I'm sorry, did you have a question..?
My mind was definitely not blown.
Teaching children creation, as if its true, is definitely child abuse.
Add the teaching that doubt is a sin - a literal thought crime.
Do you also think telling people Santa is real is child abuse? I believe words matter when discussing things, and such terms only polarise.
@@ukkiesc5087 Under this definition - _Abuse is the intentional harm done to another person through mistreatment or ill-treatment, or failing to act to prevent harm_ - but one would have to acknowledge being mistaken as criminal as ignorance is the only protection in this case as the alternative to being mistaken is lying.
@@ukkiesc5087 There's a big difference.
When a child gets to the age where they begin to work out Santa isn't real, you admit it.
When they begin to doubt the existence of your imaginary friend, they are told to have more faith, along with threats of hell.
Definitely child abuse.
@James Henry Smith What's the population of actual humans, i.e., not non-human or fake humans, then?
I love when apologists try to make Christianity sound unique, but it just comes down to "Christianity is the only religion that answers the questions Christianity asks in the way Christianity wants them answered."
I'm not surprised his strawman versions of Hinduism and Buddhism can't comfort a child, but I found it surprising that his version of the Christian answer doesn't comfort the child either. Why would a child dying of cancer care that Adam and Eve ruined perfection? Shouldn't he be focused on the concept that the kid will go to heaven?
Knock knock
"Who is it?"
"It's Jesus. Let me in."
"Why do you want in?"
"I want to save you."
"Save me from what?"
"From what I will do to you if you don't let me in."
Yeah, nothing says comforting like "well along time ago, two people who didnt know better made a mistake, and god said that was so bad that you *deserve* cancer for being born."
How to pass gcse's biology questions.... God did it, physics..... God did it, chemistry......God did it 🙌
I may have got better results had I used this method.
That really is a great get out of jail free card. I wish I could have been dishonest enough to use it, when I went to school lol. 😂🤣😂🤣
I realise now I should have done my degree at a YEC university!
“So er, did you just shoot that person?”
“Yep”.
“Now you know that’s illega…”
“God made me do it”
“Oh okay, fair enough”.
@@davecrawley4634 That's messed up
This was what people believed in medieval times. Erik needs to catch up.
Yup. After Rome collapsed, welcome to the dark age. In terms of evidence for gods, the dark ages are evidence, using their reasoning, that the gods of rome were real. 👍 Christianity prob kept humanity back 1000 years.
Catch up, isn't that an ingredient of Gazpacho?
@@lotanerve Ha ha. There is indeed a trend for evangelicals to be a bit daft. Prob cos of the daft stories in their daft book ? 😂
Maybe Darwin was on to something. Ironically, Christianity's attempts at disproving evolution end up demonstrating it. 🤔
@@TheScotsalan I think you dont do the Medieval Age justice by thinking like that.
His video blew my mind, on how stupid humans can be.
“This is your opportunity to find out what is true or not true!”
Well that would be great if theists actually did that.
Looks like stupidity runs pretty deep in the inmate's bloodline.
That or deceit.
Funny enough Kent says that he believes there must be some kind of ‚mean gene‘, so i guess his Family inherited one of the ‚stupid gene‘ variety.
Indeed inmate #06452-017 is so stupid that even fellow YEC like Ken Ham and his associates want nothing to do with him.
the rotten apple doesn't fall far from the withered tree
Stupidity and dishonesty, Consider that Eric essentially stole away his dad's ministry (as well has his shtick) while he was incarcerated. Old Kent was forced to retire to Alabama and pretty much start up again from scratch after he was released.
The only question left is whether Eric has also inherited his father's violent streak. So far it does not look like he is quite as much of a malignant narcissist as ol' dad. 🤞
Listening to Eric describe science and scientific community concepts is like being explained how a car works by a toddler
I feel like a toddler would be more coherent. They'd at least be able to take you to a car, and point to the things when you ask "how do I get in? Where do I sit? How do I start it?"
Ask 100 theists how to get to their heaven, and you'll get 100 different answers, half or more of which will be backed up by theological literature to one degree or another lol.
@@Thoron_of_Neto I know I was giving too much leniency to theists and condemning toddlers too much, but I have to hope Eric is just wilfully dishonest and not ignorant.
@@ratillecebrasquedubitantiu4451 yeah, I think you're right. I've seen all of his points in this video addressed to him, at least once each, and then he goes right on preaching anyway.
@@ratillecebrasquedubitantiu4451 " I know I was giving too much leniency to theists and condemning toddlers too much, but I have to hope Eric is just wilfully dishonest and not ignorant."--
He is BOTH! It would depend on what he is talking about which is more dominant, ignorance or dishonesty.
*by a parakeet
ftfy
It's pretty amazing to me that Eric can be convinced God exists , yet take over (and then not give back) Kent's ill-gotten wealth while Kent was in prison.
well, it is said, God helps those who help themselves (to other peoples ill gotten gains!)
Someone should blow Erik's mind by introducing him to the concept of an English word that is plural without requiring the addition of an "s." Today, that word is evidence.
@James Henry Smith are you drunk? Do you need help? Call 911
You should enjoy the one life you know you have because life isn't a video game where you get a do-over.
What? You mean I don't get 3 lives, Goddamit 😟
@@vinnyganzano1930 Those are reserved for Mario only.
@@vinnyganzano1930 the green mushrooms don't add any lives either. I checked.
@@Thoron_of_Neto I remember the green shrooms, they made me feel all tingly n'shit😁
@@mism847 Bloody Italian plumbers.
This whole video can be rejected according to Hitchens' Razor. Baseless assertions over baseless assertions.
Exactly.
@James Henry Smith
Bro.. do yourself a favor and take your meds. You're babbling incoherently about things with less reality anchoring than pixies shitting out universe creating unicorns 🦄 ✨ 😄
@James Henry Smith careful. Your superiority complex is showing.
@James Henry Smith
Is that supposed to be a joke cuz it's flying over my head. I feel the j pop, Jesus at the mall thing is supposed to tip me off to the joke but it's just not clicking.
😴
@James Henry Smith Ok, skynet. Could you warn me when your program has achieved self awareness? If are an actual person though, I suggest getting a life. Your comments make me believe you are just a bot, or a troll. If I'm wrong, don't take that as a "check mate, atheist". You would have the intelligence of a simple program.
Imagine having Kent for your dad. With a guy like that "raising" you, it's a miracle Eric didn't turn out any worse than this.
Eric, you've blown my mind. I believe in Christianity even less now
Just the fact that Eric doesn't realize that the reason we have the population growth rate we do today is because of MODERN technology is mind blowing in itself. You can only sustain a population that you can feed. So that means that ancient civilizations populations fluctuated significantly due to famine and disease and all sorts of other reasons, so this idea of a constant growth rate is laughable. Then there is the fact that if we came from 2 people, then populated the world with all that incest, then bottle-necked the genes again after a flood, that would mean that humans would have almost identical genetic make ups. But there seems to be a lot of genetic variety amongst the human population.
So very dumb!
The level of ignorance Erik displays is so astounding that it _has_ to be willful ignorance.
Creationists like him seem to forget stuff like this a lot, such as with the moon moving away from earth.
And remember, according to the hovind model of human history, we used to share the place with dinos. I bet dinos dined on more than a few humans if his model were true. 😂😜👍
@@TheScotsalan Nononono! In their "model" all dino's were vegetarian. At least at first.
Just look at those melon cutting chompers in a t-rex mouth.
And those potato peeling claws on the raptors.
@@Virtualblueart I thought it was the JWs that said everything was vegetarian 😂. But I am happy to be corrected 👍
Poor guy, he had no chance to believe in what he wanted, Kent just brain washed him
It certainly seems that he’s learned a lot from his father…
@@TheSkepTick Do you think there's even the slight possibility that he could be convinced to question his indoctrination?
22:40 We know how exponential growth works, Eric, we're scientifically literate. But I get that your audience might not be, given the education they get.
@@NielMalan I love how he disputes the evidence... "That's impossible!"
With his argument to the contrary, I have to say that my mind IS blown. Just not in the way he intended. 😂🤣😂🤣
At this point, I’d say no. But you never know, Larry. 😅
Ah yes, the great theologian, scholar, and critical thinker, Brad Pitt.
The entire spiritual world, hangs on a thread, waiting,
eagerly anticipating his next proclamation. Who cares what Brad Pitt thinks?
Then he puts forth this nugget of intellectualism, "Deny the reality of God's existence"? Seriously? You cannot deny the existence of anything, that has never been shown to exist in the 1st place.
Eric, go back to grade school, and learn what words mean.
And at 4:52 well, maybe some of those people need to be slapped in the face. Ever think of that?
Thanks to Scimandan for having you on the channel, I have been watching you for about a month or two and I have to say 10/10 content!
Keep it up.
Thanks crusthead! I appreciate that!
@@TheSkepTick
Same here.) I found you via Dan and I'm happy I did. Love the content 👌
Honestly, despite it being such a strong and adversarial claim, I think some forms of Christianity being taught to kids could be called child abuse. My parents indoctrinated me into IFB Christianity, and some of the personal consequences to me because of that have been depression, loneliness, self-loathing, social anxiety, nihilism from having trouble finding “meaning” on an emotional level, and when I was younger insomnia from fear of hell. I really don’t think it’s a stretch to call something that can produce _that_ in a person “child abuse” . And if you try to drill down to see why my parents believed this was the best way they could raise me, they’ll each say it’s because they had one hallucinatory experience they ascribe to YHWH for no good reason aside from being born in the southern US.
So we have a belief system that produces no good and lots of harm being taught for no good reason. Again, I really do think it’s fair to call that child abuse. Now not all types of Christianity are that bad, but I’d say minimally that anything which teaches kids they are born broken, worthless, and powerless to change themselves is best described as child abuse.
I completely agree. It makes you wonder why the adults are so fixated on continuing the tradition too.
Sorry you went through that. IFB sounds terrible, but there are lost that are equally bad...
@@mikeharrison1868 oh for sure, religion by no means has the market cornered on child abuse
@@bariumselenided5152 But the topic here *is* Christianity, so your comment is spot on. That fear of hell, coupled with being taught that even your best deeds are like dirty rags in God's eyes, really messed me up. It is child trauma at best, & abuse at worst. It strips away agency & autonomy, creating a sick codependency on an imaginary tyrant.
@@bariumselenided5152 can you pls educate me , what’s IFB?
Did he just get Hinduism and Buddhism mixed up, because I am pretty sure he did. Also, Eric. That's not how Karma works.
@Selena Felicity White
No, he didn't get them mixed up. However he did misunderstand Karma...
We Christians have a similar understanding of life to that of karma, that is reaping and sewing. And in both, it does impact your afterlife...
@@DemonicRemption yes he did an no you don't!
You unbelievably disingenuous liar. According to Christianity:
No matter how innocent you are, if you don't accept Jesus as your Lord and Saviour, you go to Hell forever.
No matter how guilty you are, if you accept Jesus as your Lord and Saviour, you go to Heaven forever.
That's the complete opposite of any system of Karma.
Furthermore, demonstrate an afterlife exists or that Jesus wasn't just a legend.
Yes, the concept of Nirvana is in Buddhism and he attributed that to Hinduism.
@@ladyselenafelicitywhite1596 Nailed it to the point where he was afraid to respond, hahah.
Eric blows my mind alright, by how dumb his nonsense is. Then again, he actually isn't worse than other apologists. He's actually quite friendly in stark contrast to his dad.
The only thing Eric blows is Sye Ten before going to bed.
I like his story about being told that teaching creation in schools was borderline child abuse. And he tried to equivocate teaching creationism in schools with religious teachings.
Weren't they supposed to pretend creationism was science and not religion?
My mind was slightly blown by how many things Eric could misunderstand and misrepresent.
But then he did start by explaining he felt obligated to defend his religion regardless if he had the understanding or expertise to provide any intelligent thoughts.
I can definitely see his father's influence. Try and show an emotional and superficial presentation. Making sure to gloss over relevant facts that contradict it at every opportunity.
I do think Eric does put a fair amount of effort into arguing and defending his religion. But when trying to defend the nonsense he believes, it's hard to make arguments like that look reasonable.
I noticed that too
Whether creationism is religion or science depends on the target audience. In this video Eric is preaching to the choir, so it's religion. When they try to get it taught in public schools, it's "Intelligent Design", a theory developed by "cdesign proponentsists" (as it's spelled in the ID textbook _Of Pandas and People_ ).
Apparently, Eric here never heard of The Bubonic Plague. Or does he think very few died?
"I'm not dead! I'm getting better. I don't want to go on the cart."
This is the most frustrating part. You *know* Eric, and every other Young Earth Creation fundamentalist has heard from one or another of the people they've spoken to about this whole argument, that we *know* stuff like the plague, and food shortage, spoilage, war, infant mortality rates, diseases humans didnt understand, and all manner of things would have kept the human population (relatively) tiny for a long long time. Yet every time they start making their arguments, here it comes around again, trotted out like it's the first time anyone's ever used it and it should give anyone a moments pause...
You'll be stone dead in a moment. You're not fooling anyone you know.
I feel happy!!!
Just get on the cart.
He certainly never heard of smallpox.
Estimates: 90% of the native population of the Western Hemisphere. 500M during the last 100 years of its existence. During the 18th century 400K yearly in Europe alone.
Going out on a limb here, but I'd say smallpox killed more people than all wars combined.
By Eric's logic, there should be billions of every animal God created. Where are the billions of gorillas, pandas, rhinos, elephants, etc?
They're not special enough for god to preserve... despite not being the ones who fucked up the all knowing gods perfect plan... that somehow included getting messed up in the first place....
I gotta stop, this rabbit hole goes deeeeeeeep.
My thoughts too 👍. I was thinking, what about Pandas Eric. How do you explain Pandas 😂.
@@Thoron_of_Neto Why do you even need a "plan" when you know everyting beforehand and can change anything in an instant to your liking effortlessly?
Ah yes, pandas.
One of the few species besides the human that desperately tries to extinct itself.
It‘s all Gods plan. 😂
Not to mention ALL the animals that we haven’t seen the last 100 years (as they are extinct).
Scaring children with the threat of eternal torture (which is sometimes for things that are out of that child control like thoughts, sexuality and gender) to act in specific ways is child abuse.
Love your content!... Keep up the good work!
I don't worry about driving over bridges built by creationists, 99% of them haven't finished the requisite schooling to become structural engineers.
You are apparently not familiar with the Salem Hypothesis. 😉
My next door neighbor had a few large fossiliferous limestone blocks that were to be included in his landscaping project. A more distant neighbor who used to visit from time to time and I visited the site and discovered these blocks. I remarked that the bivalves and other fossils in the limestone were probably ninety million years old. He replied rather crossly that they were only several thousand years old. I was off by 400 million years however! The block probably dated from at least the Ordovician Period, 460 to 443 million years ago. He was a frequent visitor but he hasn't stopped by for at least the last four years. That's fine with me.
This guy also used a vanity publishing house for his several hundred page exegesis of the Book of Revelations, which in my opinion is a fascinating description of the many "magic mushroom" trips of John the "divine. The sketchy publishing house ripped him off for several grand. I guess gullibility can become a way of life for these folks.
He was a retired, wait for it......civil engineer. I've know a couple of fundamentalists that wrote software for a living who I suspect were also YEC's. I myself worked in software development and find YEC outlandish and with no basis in fact.
It's a mystery to me how people can believe such counterfactual tripe.
-dave
@@davidh.4944 I had to look it up. Even though I am familiar with the concept I didn't know it had a name. Thanks.
-dave
If only you had faith in Jebus you wouldn't need bridges. You'd just pray your car to the other side.
His reasons for believing: because I want to and because I'm afraid
And because daddy told me it was true and I'm also making a good living off it without having to do much at all.
I really think it's just, "I want people to think I speak for God, and I'll make money doing it."
He is essentially brainwashed by his father. It is a cult. He was born into a cult and now he tries to indoctrinate others like his father did
Happy to be here at the infancy of a mammoth UA-cam channel filled with top-tier content. Well done.
Science: there was no flood.
Eric: science says you can't have a small population.
Science: now you listen!
I can't help but harbor a soft spot for Eric, if only for flat-out screwing his dad out of his business interests while pop was in prison.
"Hey dad, you know God is all about forgiveness right? Kept that in mind when you get out of prison and get back home."
And he claims not to believe in Karma.
Actually, there have been cases of engineers and architects using computer models based upon an evolutionary model.
Quite so, and it is still a respected technique. If you want the details search for "Genetic Algorithm".
@@TheOwlman thank you. I have always been fascinated by computers. My mother was a computer programmer.
@@ladyselenafelicitywhite1596 A pleasure. I spent my career programming computers and genetic algorithms were useful for many minimisation and optimisation tasks that are computationally expensive otherwise (NP-Hard tasks such as the travelling salesman problem, for example). Nature really is great at optimisation - search for "Japan slime mould" to see how good :~D
@@TheOwlman I recall seeing a UA-cam video about that. Isn't that the mold they are now using to model the best pathways when designing new footpaths, roads, and railway routes?
@@ladyselenafelicitywhite1596 I believe so. All without benefit of a brain, so they must have some other method of solving the problem that we just aren't aware of. They do gather into slug like collections with animal like behaviour, so there is a whole lot more going on to allow them to behave as a multicellular organism when required.
He's right, my mind was blown
By how many fallacies he was able to shove into a single argument
That shit takes practice
Eric Hovind: "we can't trust carbon dating because we don't know if the decay rate is truly constant"
Also Eric: "if I blindly presume the population rate is constant, although we know it isn't, and choose the value that does so, it validates young earth creationism"
I'm surprised he's not wearing a labcoat. He may honestly believe what he's doing is indistinguishable from science.
The thing that blows my mind is the realization that there are people who believe him.
There are TOO many people that believe him
@@hifijohn 1 person believing him is already too many
I am uncertain, I believe dr Hovind Jr exist, but I don’t believe in what he’s mumbling about.
Octopus blow my mind. Those creatures are strange and challenging. Their limbs can act independently of the central brain because they have their own neurones.
9:30 The great thing about being an atheist is that I have no fear of being judged, so yes, teaching children to live in fear of being judged by a celestial Don Corleone is child abuse. To anyone who thinks I should be afraid: how afraid are _you_ of being judged by Yama and sent to Naraka? Exactly, you aren't.
10:27 That old chestnut. No Erik, you can't just do what you want because even atheists inhabit society and society has standards of behaviour that reasonable people feel are justified. They just aren't based on a bronze age book of fairy tales whose moral strictures are abandoned one by one as society moves on (for example Erik, unlike MP we don't call on the government to kill disobedient children, and I just bet Deut 22:11 "Thou shalt not wear a garment of divers sorts, as of woollen and linen together" is one you ignore).
18:22 He does know there was a revolution in agriculture and industry that facilitated the rate of population growth, doesn't he? He also glosses over all the incest there would have to be if the population bottleneck was one family on a big boat, but hey, it was glossed over before when Adam and Eve set off on their journey to populate the planet so...
@James Henry Smith Time to get your dosage adjusted.
@James Henry Smith Well the last comment was either delusional or halucinatory, so a check never hurts.
Nobody teaches kids they can literally do whatever they want. Nice straw man, Eric.
Creationists: Uniformitarianism is bs
Also creationists: 22:08
They apply a principal in ways that it doesn't work, but deny how it actually works...
I have a feeling I'm going to get blown away by his stupidity. But let's see maybe he can make a good point for once
You may have your mind blown for the same reason as me….
@@TheSkepTick I'm nearing the halfway point I know I'm going to say is my head is in my hands because my word he's not even trying like his normal arguments are typically better than this
@@TheSkepTick yep in the end it appears to be what I suspected
One of the key reasons for that growth rate change he objected to? Where there was a long and slow gradient changing into a curve? Farming and settlement. For a very long time we were a nomadic species and the populations were in a balancing act, losing more people to disease, conflict between groups, and famine, and unable to just pump out children nonstop to replace them since they had to keep traveling. It wasn't until farming was implemented that we had the ability to properly support a larger stable growth rate. It was then we began to settle into a town and city like structure of living. The two combined allowed for the increased birth rates (and increased consumption of food to produce and support the extra children) and more reliable shelter from the elements, thus, a more stable growth rate was established.
Not to mention that having a reliable food source also freed the growing population to focus on specializing and creating new things that also helped lower the mortality rate and increased life expectancy.
Even after the agricultural revolution, the human population had to claw its way up to the species it is today, by overcoming population decimating viruses, wars, infant mortality, occupational hazards and hell, even the climate would kill us if we didn't constantly cut down trees to burn to heat our houses for part of the year until just a century ago.
@@Lobsterwithinternet Yep, as soon as some people can be freed from constant foraging/hunting just to survive day to day they pretty soon start to think about how a better spears/axes/protection from the elements might make living a lot more bearable and less short.
@@Virtualblueart Rapid human advancement actually started after the domestication of dogs, not agriculture (and while still being hunter gathers). This is evident from agriculture independently developing 8+ times, pastoral groups getting more advanced and actually inventing many milestone discoveries themselves, and key inventions like the atlal happening before agriculture/pastoral communities.
As a side note agricultural societies weren't much happier (from what we see) than hunter gather communities with dogs. Although they are both much happier than what came before.
The old argument from personal incredulity: I don't understand how this works, therefore god.
Love your presentations ❤️🙏🏽🤩
I appreciate that! Thank you.
People actually take children to a "Heaven's Gate and Hell's Flames" show and that is definitely child abuse!
I didn’t know that!!
Oh yeah, I _definitely_ remember that play when I went to a catholic church that had a youth group, & I was about 18 or 19 back then. I don't know why I didn't get up & walked out back then!
Why does god need somebody to be an apologetic? God should be able to do it all by himself.
It’s almost as if the entire thing is made up.
And it would cost him nothing, not even time considering that it is supposedly "omnipotent". Then again "muh free willz! is their favorite deflection to that point. As if your will is any more free when you are ignorant and even worse, free will is not as free as they want you to believe.
Apologists never apologize, just come up with feeble excuses.
@@kellydalstok8900 They make excuses for their pathetic claims though.
@James Henry Smith god might but humans don’t
I laughed till I tapped on the subscription button!!! Amazing content sir. Keep it up🤣
Ahh this is the the first time I heard your buttery smooth accent and I am loving it! I almost feel like I'm listening to an atheist radio station or something.
Thanks Kaede!
I've only read the title so far.
The answer to your question is contradict your self in the same sentence.
You know how it’s going to go…
His entire worldview is just loudly misunderstanding/misrepresenting EVERYTHING.
Right?! I should do a ‘misrepresentation counter’.
The saddest part of this video is discovering Kent Hovind had children.
“A fully functional lightsaber in my backpack.” Dude, don’t toy with me like that…….
🤷🏻♂️😂😂
Ah, I see the problem. The "mind blowing" part wasn't something like proof of a god, but how MINDBLOWINGLY STUPID Erik Hovind is.
Another great vid exposing the preposterous nature of creationism. Thank you. I'm starting to think the off centre bright spots are almost deliberate at this point. I keep leaning up, down, to the sides trying to jedi mind trick the bright spot into the centre of the circles. Cheers.
I can neither confirm, nor deny 😅
@James Henry Smith this is hilarious. Thank you.
@James Henry Smith as true as fairies and leprechauns and unicorns and pixie dust.
I have a nephew that has been fighting leukemia for 4 years now. He was diagnosed at age 5. Thankfully my brother and sister-in-law knew to seek medical help bc even though there were quite a few close calls where we almost lost him they credit his survival to the Christian god. I used to be Christian myself but "lost" my faith after a really bad NDE that opened me up to reading the entire Bible as I was seeking answers to why I am now forced to live the rest of my life in tremendous pain and severe loss of memory retention and other loss of functions in my body. So to me all the thx goes to the wonderful doctors and nurses that did their best to keep my nephew on track with treatment and help him be as comfortable as possible bc in case anybody doesn't know chemo therapy among a dozen other procedures are very painful. No 5yr old should have to experience that. And if there really is a god then they would be the most sadistic, torture loving being to ever exist. Then when you throw all the contradictions and inconsistencies from the Bible on top of that pile you start to realize just how made up all this superstitious nonsense is. Mind blowing levels of absurdity that most of the U.S. today take as absolutely true.
I really like that he doesn't do a re-take of the, "I read a lot skeptical information"
I haven't watch this video yet and and I can't wait to be blown away (or not)
You’re in for a real (not) treat
I would like to say I'm disappointed to NOT be blown away... but I'm not even "a little surprised" of Eric failure to find something new.
As someone with a degree in electronics I can confirm we never used the theory of evolution.
@James Henry Smith could you try that again in English please?
@James Henry Smith nope. Your first reply said nothing like that. I think you were trying to accuse me of being under mind control but it was a bit of a grammatical and syntactic mess to be honest. Also what is “false drunkenness”? Is that pretending to be drunk or thinking you’re drunk when you’re actually sober?
At 13:15 it was so funny to watch Eric use air quotes where he said _'one of the greatest things "they think" they use'_ The regular over uses of air quotes by Eric, his dad, and Ken Ham's team is comical.
It is always comforting to be reminded that his understanding of other religions is at the depth of his understanding of his own. At least he's consistant.
I have a question:
How many dinosaurs, two by two, did Moses take on to the ark?
1st Peter 3:15 that, Eric! 😇🖖🐵
It’s a valid question
None, that's why they died out.
Of course he'd then have to explain a multitude of other impossible things in order to make that ludicrous story work, but he's so full of bullshit that there's plenty of it for him to spew out.
one of them has said dinosaurs were on the ark but they were baby dinos or maybe even eggs 🤦♂️
@@kennydavers3946 oh yeah, I've heard that too, and then they just kind of trail off and wander out of the room like Ken Ham following a tax break he'll use to build another fable building "museum" when you ask them "so... did Noah and his family just, sit on the eggs for a year then try to raise the dinos that hatched out and when they couldn't figure it out... kill and eat the creatures god planned to survive?"
@Christa Simon Some people just don't get irony lol.
Irony:
What you do after washingy 😁💜
11:07 And the difference is, some people try to understand that world for what it really is, and some people want to twist what they see to try to force it in to what their preconceived notion of they believe it to be.
And that's the whole deal right there. Some people want to learn how it works, while creationists want to monkey fuck it into what they already believe it is.
Erics whole argument to people wanting to spend their lives not worrying about something they don't know exists is: "How can you deny something that totally exists?" _refuses to elaborate_
I have a new saying .
" I'm a good person for the heck of it just because . Whereas in general theist are acting good hopes of getting something in return"
I think I have the moral high ground here
11:35 I'm pretty certain no Hovind has ever spent any significant amount of time at the microscope, looking at evidence.
I'm certain no Hovind has every read anything more advanced than a kiddies science book for creationists, it's got the same thing for every science, " it was god."
Thank gOD, my mind has been non-blown for quite some time.
Among other things...
😂😂😂 I’m sorry to laugh… but…
21:25 to 22:58 this stretch makes watching the whole video really worth it 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 I was just zoning out whenever Eric opened his mouth, but this stretch really snapped me into full awareness 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 does he actually think it takes 7000 years to grow from a population of 2 to a population of 4? 😂😂😂😂😂😂
There's a line from Morontia Mota that says: "28. The argumentative defense of any proposition is inversely proportional to the truth contained."
Eric's defense of a crystalized and institutionalized religion borders on this concept. The more he defends it, the less truth it contains.
Eric sounds like a salesman that doesn't even believe his product works.
I remember at school, we had a few in science lessons who found it difficult to follow what was being taught.
however NONE of them were as bad as the likes of Eric Hovind, Ray Comfort, Ken Ham, and of course... Kenny 'Dr. Dino-Rod' Hovind
There's a big difference. Being a bit crap at a subject in school is one thing. Wilful ignorance or just plain dishonesty is something else and that's where the Hovinds, Comforts and Hams of this world are. But lets be honest... It's only about the grift innit?
Eric is the only creationist apologist I feel something like pity for - the guy was raised by Kent Hovind! I don't want to know how messed up I would be under these circumstances.
I likely would flee into a fantasy world as well..
Eric. You might like to try cracking open a second year maths text on population dynamics. They have equations that take account of things like predation, disease and limited resources.
I feel sorry for Eric who has been exposed to such lies since he was a little boy. He does not notice that he is making fun of himself when he tells so many lies in such a short time. I'm waiting for proof of how a donkey could talk and how the sun stood still in the sky, because it was not the sun that stood still but the earth (lack of science)
Clowns can make money being clowns. We all need to make a living. Some people are willing to be foolish and are able to pay their bills off of other peoples gullibility. Just watch the home shopping networks.
I once saw a video that explored the amount of energy that would be required to stop the Earth's rotation for a few hours and then start it up again, and compared that to the energy required to e.g. cause a heart defect in each of Joshua's enemies. Biblical literalists believe in a very inefficient god.
The CRAP this Hovind character spewed blue my mind; 🍺 Cheers.
In early adulthood I too wondered what the "meaning of life" was. Just for kicks, I looked up "life" in the dictionary. It defines "life" as the ability to adapt. Thus it follows logically, that if a living thing (or human) is not busy adapting to anything, it has little meaning.
But I think what Eric Hovind is trying to say, poorly, is that if one develops their own interpersonal relationship with the Divine Father, one's life becomes ever so more meaningful, as each new discovery of a truth, adds more meaning to their life. And on the flip side, every experience a person has, is also shared and experienced by the pre-personal spirit fragment of the Divine Father, aka the Thought Adjuster within. That gives more meaning to the Father.
Are you the alt account of Professor Dave by any chance?
You have the exact same voice when in roast-mode and idk
Very Dave vibes, I like this x)
I had to laugh at some of this BS. it’s actually tough to realize that we were def lucky to survive at all. His talking about population is hilarious. Life expectancy was so young early on. Hell until after the Victorian era most kids died before 5. So much is known and this guy manages to know about as much as a gnat!
10:27 I must meet the atheist parent who says to their child that it can do whatever it wants. This whole notion that, because I don't believe in God, I don't have morals and therefore I can (want to and should) do whatever I want, annoys me greatly. Even if I don't have moral absolutes I still have morals and I hold my children (and myself) accountable. Even the Yanomami have morals, if you care to look into their society.
You only have one chance in life...so morals are very important to an atheist.
It’s a fake analogy to say that there is no absolute morality therefore you can do what ever you like. Morality is subjective and learnt from the society we live in. Strange how that works.
Good job On this video. Please, please keep exposing these clowns. I am so happy and free now that I have shook off decades of religious belief. My mind was poisoned and I was a disgusting individual, who hated gays, trans and just about anyone who didn't see things the way I did. Now I am free to love and understand my fellow human beings.
Wow! I'm lost for words!
"You can't have empathy in an atheistic worldview"
Weird... I'm an atheist, and I still have empathy. I must be one of these fake atheists who actually knows god exists without knowing it some apologists love talking about.
10:24 .. öh wait...
Eric: "..If you dont tell your Kids about right and wrong and then punishing them for it! ..."
doesn't this sorta describe actually what that God-Thing did to Adam and Eve?
The time befor they where even capable of understanding what is right and wrong, because for that they would have had to have that knoweledge that according to the Bible-Story;
can only be achieved by eating the fruit of knoweledge.
Cause that God-Thing seemed to actually has planed it out for this to happen, instead of giving them this ability and the knoweledge, so for that God-Thing can curse everything, all life-forms, the earth itself, light,.. simply everything.. for just 2 people doing something they are simply couldnt understand to be wrong.
Eric's words applied to that,.. that God-Thing is a child-abuser!
Thanks Eric for admitting that.
Eric: "..The all Powerfull, all Knowing God, created a super perfect world. .. And then humans came in and destroyed it .."
So a supposedly "..perfect creation.." can be destroyed by humans? (also supposedly perfectly designed by the same God-Thing)
I quess Eric got dropped to much onto his head as he was a Baby.
Edit:
Eric: "..You start with 2 People, then they are 4, then they are 8, then they are 16.."
Is Eric really just doubling the amount of humans without counting any of the humans in that calculation away?
Looks like Eric never heard of People are able to die and also that not every couple gets 4 children.
So,.. where did he get this doubling thing from?
Probably more than once from a rather high place judging by the brain damage. Edit for clarification.
@@oldgoatsgarden4897
Or it was Kent who was "..whacking.." his son with a Hammer everytime he disobeyed. XD
@@Color-Painter-Blue maybe he was the original SpongeBob for his wack an atheist segment.
It's kind of a YEC trope at this point, that they can only take a single data point into account at any one time. Asking Eric to take into account anything other than a population magically doubling every so often, would overtax the two brain cells he rubs together to form coherent thoughts.
@Christa Simon
"..I thought that God got pissed off because the serpent called out God for lying:.."
That too, but still punished the Kids, and everything else too, for doing something they where not able to know would be right or wrong.
Like Eric said,.. makes that God-Thing a Child-Abuser for doing so. :P
Bro, please find these videos, my kids and I are really entertained, What a crazy guy.
As someone who felt spiritually connected to Christianity at one point, I think the tough part of deconversion is after the initial thought that there is no god until you are able to get a grasp of everything... It's Tough to turn off the pattern seeking part of the brain that came from thousands of years of survival in our ancestors so we sometimes continue to make connections that aren't there that we don't need anymore because food and resources are more abundant..it's tricky to stop making unnecessary leaps that aren't helpful anymore but are ingrained in our genetic code
The way these guys bend the truth .....help... .save me from heave!
@James Henry Smith
If you have to bend the truth (lie) to make the Bible fit Reality then there is no truth in the Bible. Watch pastors like Paula White
and Rick Wiles..etc now show me the truth in the Bible.
@James Henry Smith please answer why some pastors can justify killing Gay people just because they are gay, using your bible..if god can not inspire the truth better then that...I see not real truth in your bible. In short justify pastors like Rick Wiles, Paula etc and the (this very important) the lack of main stream evangelical's
response to these kind of pastors???
@James Henry Smith The prophet Muhammad took a night trip to heaven aboard a trusty winged pony-horse-mule-ish creature called Buraq. REALITY at it's realest.
Eric claims that we are all looking at the same stuff and the same evidence... While leaving out the fact that in many cases doing so was blasphemous and that those Christian scientists who did look for God through science utterly disagree with Creationism as a result of that search 99% of the time.
The only reason why the faithful are able to look at the same evidence as everyone else is because of those who did not look to the Bible (or other holy books) for answers as to how the universe works.
@James Henry Smith There was a book burning recently actually. Only one was a Bible though because a satanist snuck in to the pyre Christians were using to burn other books... Again.
@James Henry Smith Christians often say "Stop that book", since I was unclear.
No one has ever seen a Hovind produce anything but a Hovind.
Their definition of "hope" is not the same as the "hope" we allude to (ie wishful thinking). Their "hope" is an absolute certainty. So when they say "of things hoped for" they really mean "of the certainty of these things". Learned that while Under The Influence.