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  • A star enveloped by black fire that causes madness and insanity wherever it appears. But what could it be exactly?
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  • @perturabo7825
    @perturabo7825 7 років тому +959

    Kitten-"Should we be worried about Malal trying to escape my emperor?" Emperor-"Hell no, he is a total push over, probably wrote that letter himself to make him sound more intimidating."

  • @Kalnafein
    @Kalnafein 7 років тому +737

    I wonder if Horus ever made that cup of cocoa for Malal.

    • @bobmarine7392
      @bobmarine7392 7 років тому +94

      Kalnafein Well the 40k is made of grimdarkchocolate so yeah He made cocoa for Malal

    • @Beadlayer69
      @Beadlayer69 7 років тому +4

      Kalnafein I don't get it

    • @bobmarine7392
      @bobmarine7392 7 років тому +20

      Luke Feeney well it a joke on Channel call Alfabusa

    • @Sereze001
      @Sereze001 5 років тому +10

      @@Beadlayer69 TTS Episode 18.5

    • @carlosthejakl8493
      @carlosthejakl8493 4 роки тому +6

      Id like that. Id like that alot

  • @SangTheCryptek
    @SangTheCryptek 5 років тому +429

    "The Chaos God of Chaos."
    Lol, I heard you like Chaos, so I put Chaos in your Chaos, so you can heresy while you heresy.

    • @inkedseahear
      @inkedseahear 4 роки тому +41

      "Are you one of the Chaos gods?"
      "I am, but I got so good at it, I'm the Chaos god of Chaos."

    • @HydraDominus
      @HydraDominus 4 роки тому +22

      *ANGRY INQUISITORIAL SCREAMING*

    • @elijahkelley7616
      @elijahkelley7616 3 роки тому +2

      Yo dog, we heard you like Chaos, so we're gonna put a Chaos in your Chaos.

  • @godemperorofmankind7255
    @godemperorofmankind7255 7 років тому +597

    It's chaos. It's always chaos.

    • @godemperorofmankind7255
      @godemperorofmankind7255 7 років тому +57

      Or Cthulhu. Though he hasn't reared his ugly head since the 1900s (Call of Cthulhu)

    • @PervyAutomaton
      @PervyAutomaton 7 років тому +18

      first you say It's always chaos.then you say Cuthulu. for crying out loud there comes nothing after "It's always(insert anything here)

    • @godemperorofmankind7255
      @godemperorofmankind7255 7 років тому +33

      (Maniacal laughter is heard in the background with tentacle like sounds drowning out the growing insane laughter)
      THE GREAT OLD ONES ARE COMING MORTALS!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! (CTHULHU chants are heard in the background.)
      Well....at least chaos will be dealt with

    • @simongrundyreiner
      @simongrundyreiner 7 років тому +21

      It's always gonna be warp fuckery

    • @60sSam
      @60sSam 7 років тому +20

      Chaos this and chaos that. Give it a rest Dad.

  • @gabrielaubry1334
    @gabrielaubry1334 7 років тому +155

    Malal: "When I get out of here, I will be the greatest Chaos God ever! I'll fuck 'em ALL UP! Just you wait... I will become RELEVANT AGAIN!"
    Horus: "Malal... Just stop."
    Squat: "You just can't keep doing this to yerself."
    Malal: "STOP DOUBTING ME! I WILL BECOME CANON! I WILL I WILL I WIHIHIHHIIIILL..."
    Horus: "Come. I'll make you some hot chocolate."
    Malal: "...I'd like that..."
    Horus: "There there, Malal...There, there..."

    • @pyrosauria7444
      @pyrosauria7444 7 років тому +1

      Gabriel Aubry but Horus is cannon? :0

    • @HaloFTW55
      @HaloFTW55 7 років тому +11

      Pyroskies
      He means Horus' soul.

    • @clonetf141
      @clonetf141 7 років тому +6

      Gabriel Aubry
      sanguinius: FUCK YOU HORUS!!!!!

    • @gabrielaubry1334
      @gabrielaubry1334 7 років тому +10

      Pyroskies
      He is, but the Emperor blasted him literally out of existence, putting him with the other things that got rubbed out (for one reason or another).

    • @lordinquisitorsec7532
      @lordinquisitorsec7532 7 років тому +2

      How's life in the Retconium Malal?

  • @stargoyle9226
    @stargoyle9226 7 років тому +313

    Sounds like an irrelevant, minor warp being going through a midlife crisis.

    • @christiandauz3742
      @christiandauz3742 6 років тому +32

      The Grey Knights are sometimes called in full force to kill the BILLIONS of people the corrupted star has driven mad or mutated EVERYTIME it appears in Imperium territory
      The Tyrant Star causes Chaos Rebellions everywhere it goes!

    • @danielstephenaguilos9346
      @danielstephenaguilos9346 3 роки тому +3

      @@christiandauz3742 Ok. Someone didn't get the reference.

    • @callumleslie1680
      @callumleslie1680 3 роки тому +3

      Malal stop being such a pushover

  • @franciosdeaeruiu7555
    @franciosdeaeruiu7555 7 років тому +216

    My hyper-realistic kirby plushie cried six hundred and sixty six liters of blood for as many seconds

  • @nicolaseisenberg7650
    @nicolaseisenberg7650 7 років тому +680

    The Tyrant Star is a peephole into the AOS universe. The madness comes from GW ending Warhammer Fantasy.

    • @lekhaclam87
      @lekhaclam87 7 років тому +71

      No wonder it brings madness whenever it goes.

    • @emetanti
      @emetanti 7 років тому +48

      so it turns people insane by sheer butthurt?

    • @nicolaseisenberg7650
      @nicolaseisenberg7650 7 років тому +12

      Red Oblivion Age of Sigmar.

    • @Flamethrower1942
      @Flamethrower1942 7 років тому +6

      A steaming pile of Shit!

    • @kaisercollins3097
      @kaisercollins3097 7 років тому +5

      I find it so odd that there are people who have so little empathy for other players

  • @deep_fried_analysis
    @deep_fried_analysis 7 років тому +233

    Black hole sun
    Won't you come
    And wash away the rain...

    • @darrianweathington1923
      @darrianweathington1923 5 років тому +11

      Drago is going to eat it.

    • @OMartinez91
      @OMartinez91 4 роки тому +5

      @@darrianweathington1923 NO SUN!

    • @modakkagitplugga
      @modakkagitplugga 3 роки тому +1

      Saw that dude live in concert 2 days before he hung himself....and i'm still unsettled by that music video

  • @MidKnight2142
    @MidKnight2142 5 років тому +120

    Malice: I shall foil the plans of any and all Chaos "gods!:
    Tzeentch: Just as planed

  • @unlimitedpanda5433
    @unlimitedpanda5433 7 років тому +477

    its Matt wards soul.

  • @SSecularScholar
    @SSecularScholar 7 років тому +303

    How did you escape the warp after Magnus teleported you there?

    • @Warrior-Of-Virtue
      @Warrior-Of-Virtue 7 років тому +84

      He followed Russ, Fyodor, and the others through the gate of Kain, I would assume.

    • @bobmarine7392
      @bobmarine7392 7 років тому +61

      Warrior of Virtue Or his Daemon Girlfriend help him get out from the warp

    • @trialb
      @trialb 7 років тому +17

      The Emperor protects.

    • @godemperorofmankind7255
      @godemperorofmankind7255 7 років тому +40

      He did.....And it was glorious.

    • @TearDownGenesis
      @TearDownGenesis 7 років тому +16

      He gave a call to Matt Ward

  • @peterquint3816
    @peterquint3816 7 років тому +173

    An 1100 year ritual at the end of which 11 people died?
    I bet when Malal appeared they said "Can we just make your sacred number 2 from now on? Also 1, 1 is a good number, 11 not so good."

    • @Thalanox
      @Thalanox 7 років тому +35

      Each of those 11 people are the winners of a ritualistic contest that the best, most ambitious members of the Sons of Malice chapter have been running every time they regroup for the get-togethers they have every century.
      You should read the story. It's pretty decent, and not too long.

    • @MrMrjimbo96
      @MrMrjimbo96 4 роки тому +7

      "YOU FOOLS! IT'S A BINARY NUMBER NOT ELEVEN!"

    • @Sirhc2003
      @Sirhc2003 3 роки тому +3

      @@MrMrjimbo96 so... 3?

  • @FieldMarshalFry
    @FieldMarshalFry 7 років тому +76

    well, Malice being involved with the Tryant Star would explain why daemons are scared of it, however I like the theory that it is connected to the Haarlock dynasty of Rogue Traders, the last one went mad over the death of his wife and went to the use the Star's power for..... something, causing all sorts of crazy time and space shit in the process

    • @silent_stalker3687
      @silent_stalker3687 9 місяців тому

      Guy goes to star
      Demon rips him off and caused an pretty solidly ducked event.
      Mala: “hey boy, do this thing to get back at that guy who ripped you off”

      Horrible things happen
      Other gods: “uh, wait you said you ripped that guy off what he fuck did you do?!”
      Demon: uh, I did not do that
      Gods: *make demon try to solve issue*
      Demon: *eternal screeching and maddening sounds as he has to deal with Mala*
      Also
      Same demon: *goes to other gods and warp creatures for help and gets ripped off making the situation worse*
      Same demon: *tries to find traces of that guys soul and being him back to find out what the fuck he did*
      Slaanesh gets involved because it seems like a fun daycare to send her kids to
      Her kids make things worse and leave once it stops being fun via even they are becoming scared of it and not even having a good death
      Demon and guys soul: “what the fuck…”
      Also then: “well we just need this sword that has a shard of a god in it for help”
      Warden of the sword: *grunt*
      Sword: *maddened screaming*
      Solution: 404 not found

  • @conradshtock3039
    @conradshtock3039 7 років тому +199

    Why do I get the feeling that Malice is gonna be directly tied to 40k's version of The End Times?

    • @dlordjoeaus
      @dlordjoeaus 5 років тому +20

      Yeah The lawsuit GW would lose for using Malal again would probably cause 40k to no longer exist.

    • @bobross9581
      @bobross9581 5 років тому +29

      @@dlordjoeaus They replaced Malal with Malice, it's the same guy just different name, Malice is canon bro.

    • @cobrastorm5722
      @cobrastorm5722 4 роки тому +23

      Plot twist! Their lawyers are so afraid of being sued they will no longer even call him Malice! He shall henceforth be called Mario!

    • @sethleoric2598
      @sethleoric2598 3 роки тому +5

      Imagine if Malal decided to wipe out all life in the Galaxy because he figures it would starve chaos to death lol.

    • @conradshtock3039
      @conradshtock3039 3 роки тому +3

      @@sethleoric2598 still think that had Malal been allowed to stay, he'd have gotten turned into the Warp Revenue Service.

  • @strongback6550
    @strongback6550 6 років тому +46

    this is why you don't shoot chaotic artifacts into the sun

  • @dropdead234
    @dropdead234 7 років тому +31

    Maybe the physical manifestation of the Sixth Chaos Lord, Matt Ward!?

  • @patricksmith9700
    @patricksmith9700 7 років тому +151

    personally I'm leaning towards the tyrant star being the outsider

    • @obnoxiouspriest
      @obnoxiouspriest 7 років тому +6

      Lord catsworth it's a C'tan I believe.

    • @shadoershad4741
      @shadoershad4741 7 років тому +44

      Makes sense, the Outsider needs to feed on something and his presence does create madness. Also would make sense why the depictions of events change as he has a Dyson sphere. Some encounters may just be his sphere landing behind the star he intends to consume, while others are his sphere landing in front and eclipsing the star.

    • @PervyAutomaton
      @PervyAutomaton 7 років тому +8

      so op you are saying dishonored are linked to 40k?

    • @shadoershad4741
      @shadoershad4741 7 років тому +9

      The Jim Reaper Let me clarify. The Dyson sphere landing between the star and the observer would block it out, and then the C'Tan going out to feed on the star would create the fire. When the sphere lands behind the star from the observers point of view and the C'tan goes out to feed, it would appear as the star is burning brighter than normal.
      And by land, I mean dropping out of warp, the webway, or whatever means of propulsion the C'tan spaceships use.

    • @dannygelbart6827
      @dannygelbart6827 7 років тому +4

      @RC5664 Comet, There's not a snowball's chance in hell that it is Malal either.

  • @ShadowWulfGaming
    @ShadowWulfGaming 7 років тому +48

    i think you are like the Ancient Aliens of 40k

    • @alexstapleton6339
      @alexstapleton6339 6 років тому +10

      Shadow Wulf Gaming “I’m not saying it’s Chaos, but I think it goes without saying it was fucking Chaos!”

  • @zenoblues7787
    @zenoblues7787 7 років тому +320

    It's Malal, It's Malal the Tryant Star is the sign of his coming

    • @PervyAutomaton
      @PervyAutomaton 7 років тому +8

      And so we shall rise to serve our lord and master!

    • @bobmarine7392
      @bobmarine7392 7 років тому +37

      Malal the true lord of Chaos

    • @hereticjoe4366
      @hereticjoe4366 7 років тому +30

      All Hail MALAL

    • @TearDownGenesis
      @TearDownGenesis 7 років тому +30

      Shhh, you can't speak that name. Its Malice

    • @lordmalkus3322
      @lordmalkus3322 7 років тому +10

      May our god lead us into the abyss!

  • @khylerbane4523
    @khylerbane4523 3 роки тому +5

    Malal: I will become relevant again!
    Fucking Horus: Malal, you can’t keep doing this.

  • @Demonic_Emperor
    @Demonic_Emperor 7 років тому +17

    I suspect it's most likely something C'Tan/Necron. But, hey... who knows. Maybe it's something entirely new to the entire universe.

  • @MyrdinAnnoth
    @MyrdinAnnoth 7 років тому +14

    I love the idea of Malal making an appearance, staging a open war on the other 4 Chaos Gods who became to "stable" in their representation. A true God of eternal chaos, where it is chaos against all, even against itself. A true Beastly god... now we need more Beastmen in 40K as Malals children who hate both the non chaos and the chaos factions alike.

  • @toxicmongerofthehatefulbro5745
    @toxicmongerofthehatefulbro5745 7 років тому +55

    I mean, I can see the Tyrant Star being related to the Tyranids. After all we know the TRUE Tyranid Hivefleet still hasn't reached the Galaxy yet, so the Tyrant Start could be where the Orignial Mind of the Hive Fleet the Biggest Boss brain, is peeping into the Galaxy and it has such an overwhelming Psyic effect it warps everything it's near.

  • @alexandarvoncarsteinzarovi3723
    @alexandarvoncarsteinzarovi3723 7 років тому +15

    I think G.W, watched Transformers G1 & decided to add Unicron just for kicks

  • @ShermTank7272
    @ShermTank7272 5 років тому +15

    While TTS did joke about Malal being in there, I do think about this being a “portal to nonexistence” has *some* merit to it. If someone were to be wiped off the face of existence in both the materium and the immaterium, where would they or their soul go? And, should nonexistence ever come into existence, it could make sense if a type of “k-class” reality restructuring event happened and those affected were driven mad as a result.

    • @cryw1092
      @cryw1092 4 роки тому +2

      I mean, if something is rendered nonexistent, it doesn't go anywhere. It just ceases existing.

  • @666kingdrummer
    @666kingdrummer 7 років тому +30

    I think it is an embodiment of Malice. I would love for GW to do something with Malice again but in 40k, and the Tryant Star sounds perfect for him and legit unnerving

  • @ryanlorenzo5003
    @ryanlorenzo5003 7 років тому +20

    When the Tyrant Star appears over my system:
    "Well this is shrakk, how am I gonna get a tan now?"

    • @pyrosauria7444
      @pyrosauria7444 7 років тому +9

      Well you could get a tan from the burning cities filled with the screaming children.

    • @ryanlorenzo5003
      @ryanlorenzo5003 7 років тому +5

      Seems legit, get some of the local Arbitrators to start a mutant burning too.

  • @Hellheart
    @Hellheart 7 років тому +75

    Lovecraftian Heresy!!?? Not in my Imperium!! For Cthul..... err.... the Emporer!!!

    • @PervyAutomaton
      @PervyAutomaton 7 років тому +7

      I smell Heresy..

    • @godemperorofmankind7255
      @godemperorofmankind7255 7 років тому +8

      HAY, I'M NOT CTHULHU!!!! Though I am friends with him and the Great Old Ones. Though if they are real...they could help me defeat chaos. (Maniacal laughter grows rapidly with a hint of squid)

    • @Hellheart
      @Hellheart 7 років тому +5

      Yes, of course. I am but a humble (and, now, very confused) Astartes. I beg for your forgiveness, Your Imperial Squidiness... HOLINESS!!! I SAID HOLINESS!!

    • @offcenterprofilepicture6274
      @offcenterprofilepicture6274 7 років тому +2

      i want the god emperor to cum inside me till i pop.

    • @pyrosauria7444
      @pyrosauria7444 7 років тому +1

      Ricky Ray *eats calamari* :3

  • @Aravaganthus
    @Aravaganthus 7 років тому +9

    It's a Darksign! Toll that ancient bell in Terra, we need to wake up the Adeptus Undeadus and Adeptus Unkindlus asap!

  • @Spellbound7
    @Spellbound7 7 років тому +14

    I'm not entirely familiar with the details of Warhammer 40K lore, so I hope I'm not saying something stupid, but what if when pariahs die their 'un-souls' find one another into the Immaterium and merge together? It's like they've been coalescing together throughout the millennia like some sort of psychic black hole. That could make the Tyrant Star a pariah god.... anti-god? -The Tyrant Star is appearing, after all, in the Culexus Sector ;P-
    Wait, were the C'tan pariahs?

    • @40KTheories
      @40KTheories  7 років тому +4

      Calixis not Culexus :P

    • @Spellbound7
      @Spellbound7 7 років тому +1

      40K Theories aww. close enough :d

  • @joshklein987
    @joshklein987 5 років тому +8

    Well, imperial experts seem to be at a loss for explanations of just about everything

  • @obnoxiouspriest
    @obnoxiouspriest 7 років тому +16

    nice work yet again. Any more curse of knowledge episodes planned? I really liked that original series.

  • @r603burakkusuta2
    @r603burakkusuta2 6 років тому +8

    I keep forgetting that there are other chaos lads. I like the Malice idea. The big bad of bads.

  • @OMartinez91
    @OMartinez91 4 роки тому +4

    I love the idea of a Chaos god whose sole existence is to grief the other Chaos gods

  • @StylesV13
    @StylesV13 7 років тому +125

    Cthulhu?

    • @Matt-md5yt
      @Matt-md5yt 7 років тому +4

      he lives in what was the ARCTIC OCEAN!!

    • @godemperorofmankind7255
      @godemperorofmankind7255 7 років тому +3

      Damn it Cthulhu. Get outa here.

    • @PervyAutomaton
      @PervyAutomaton 7 років тому

      It depends on the god Shekelstien.

    • @chubles42971
      @chubles42971 7 років тому +23

      You called?

    • @phoenixdblack
      @phoenixdblack 7 років тому +13

      Cthulhu the Omnipotent
      C҉͇̥̟͉̤͉͡ţ̵̵̩̺͖h̷̛͉̝̻u̧͙͙̖̼̻̥͡l̫͙͜h̶͏̳̬̱̖̝ù͈̻͞ ̸̭̰͔̪̗̞̩̜͘F̛̦̩͈̜͙͞h͕̮͇̥̻̗̲t̯̮̠̙̼̮̗͞͞ͅḁ̯͖̻̙̣̟͜ǵ̶̱̲̦n̸̼̱̙̦̼̕!̧̲̣̜͈̖̭
      ̨̱̞͚C҉̫͉̜͍͕̬̰͕͡t̷̟h͏̜̯ͅu̟͍̕͜͡l̴̷̤̰̙̟h̡̟̤̭͝u̴͓̗͕̗̩͇͍ͅ ͚̻ͅF̀͏͚̟͚̬h̪͈̮̩̰͕͟t̴̴̻̯̦̘̹̥̳̺͞ą͈̪̺̺̼̲̫g̲͚̤̻n̶̢̖̠͉̫͓͙̣̮̦!͇̳͇͞
      ̞̟̝̬̩̱E̷̢̫͙̼̖a̢̡̤͖͈̖̮̱̤t̨͈͚ ̛͈͇̮͙͔̩̮͈m̢̗͡e̶̩̤̠̣̠͟ ̴̧̤̭f̴̵̗̣̫̯͢ì͉̫̗͔̜̱͜͢ͅͅr͇̩̣̯͙̘͈͢͜s̙̬̪̻̭͇͎̬͜t̶͍̹͓̤̻̲͢!̛̠̩͎

  • @maniacaltwit
    @maniacaltwit 4 роки тому +2

    In my opinion this sounds way more like the C'tan "The Outsider". As he is known for his voracious appetite that lead to him devouring his own kind and going mad from their remnant shards still speaking from within him, in fact his insanity became so potent that he was exiled from the war in heaven out of fear his madness would infect the other C'tan. His current form is on the galactic edge and shown to be covered in rocks, waste and possibly himself forming a moon like structure. No ones stopping him from moving about and "nibbling" on stars to feed himself, and also cause the madness by simply being nearby. After all the C'tan as a whole did develop a taste for emotions such as horror, fear, etc. Only problems with this theory is the calixis sector and the Outsider (last sighting) are possibly in two different corners of the galaxy.

  • @knightlord5962
    @knightlord5962 7 років тому +54

    Chin chin created it

    • @TheChris1299100
      @TheChris1299100 7 років тому +33

      Welcome to the rice fields...heretics!

    • @pyrosauria7444
      @pyrosauria7444 7 років тому +10

      Alberto Fleitas Ore wa ochinchin ga daisuki nandayo!

    • @linearman0245
      @linearman0245 7 років тому +6

      Is Chin-Chin still sore about his size?

    • @ExternalDialogue
      @ExternalDialogue 7 років тому +5

      NYEAS!

    • @jesusisherelookbusy
      @jesusisherelookbusy 6 років тому +5

      *"THE DARK LORD IS HERE!!"* - Sons of Malice upon summoning C̶̷h̶̷i̶̷n̶̷ ̶̷C̶̷h̶̷i̶̷n̶̷ Malal from the C̶̷h̶̷r̶̷o̶̷m̶̷o̶̷s̶̷o̶̷m̶̷e̶̷ ̶̷R̶̷e̶̷a̶̷l̶̷m̶̷ Warp.

  • @Trollioli
    @Trollioli 7 років тому +16

    BRING BACK MALAL/MALICE!

  • @thijsjevanderlee3489
    @thijsjevanderlee3489 7 років тому +4

    My own theory was that the Tyrant Star is actually a representation of the God-Emperor in the same vein that the Gates of Moment might be an eye of Slaanesh. I have several reasons for this.
    - The tyrant star also appears in the Screaming Vortex, the Chaos cultists are dismissive that the Imperials consider it a chaotic thing. It is represented as being far more destructive there then in Imperial space.
    -There are hints that the Tyrant Star also appears in other sectors and even segmenta (Achilles crusade). In all cases there is a human aspect, there are no known appearances of the Tyrant Star to aliens. I admit that this is the weakest argument but until a bunch of Orks start a Waagh because a giant black sun tells them to it remains a valid point.
    - The coming of the Tyrant start causes religious fanaticism in the imperial worlds that it touches. In a mad, raging kind of a way the Imperial Faith burns brigher in the world the Tyrant Star visits, much like a pyre. In essence having the religious warp energy that has coalesced around an antitheistic über psyker that is both disgusted and devoted to 'modern' humanity connect to worlds brimming with religious fanatics opposed to everything the Emperor fought for but utterly devoted to what the God-Emperor has become. Yes this is destructive but in a similar, if more excessive vein as the actions of Cypher. Some would survive, maybe even thrive as they could resonate with the schizophrenic dissonance. Again this is counter to its effects concerning Chaos cultists where it leaves only ashes.

  • @valyrian1360
    @valyrian1360 7 років тому +2

    I should probably post this somewhere else but the question of Malal is too much to ignore so I'll try to keep this short. Whether it's name Malice, Malal, or whatever, (I will just refer to him as Malal for now) Malice's existence is inevitable to begin with. Chaos God's represent a force fueled by the material realm, thus (especially with the tyranids) anarchy and nihilism is a huge factor within the universe. In fact I would go as far as saying the chaos gods all together fuel Malal's existence with all the "trouble" they cause. A good example of this which most can probably understand would be what happened to kreig, it was (essentially) plummeted into anarchy and civil war because of corrupt leaders who didn't believe in the Emperor.
    EDIT (can't believe I forgot to add this): The tyrant star is also proof enough of the God's existence.

  • @daswordofgork9823
    @daswordofgork9823 7 років тому +6

    I'd say that it is a reality peep hole for Malal to poke his head out. It is only to make him seem like an actual threat.

  • @Thalanox
    @Thalanox 7 років тому +3

    Things like this are why I love the Warhammer 40k setting.
    You can introduce an idea like this in the setting. An idea that, in any other setting or story, would be the one, singular, biggest evil monster ever, and it's just one relatively minor mystery in one small corner of the galaxy that most will never hear about. There are several plausible explanations for what it might be, each of which is it's own element with their own storied histories and implications, but you're left wondering what it might be.
    Just this one small, relatively insignificant idea could serve perfectly as the core to a massive blockbuster trilogy of movies or series of books if it was nurtured right.

  • @Thebluesniper477925
    @Thebluesniper477925 7 років тому +4

    I've always wanted to know more of the Tyrant Stars after seeing that Q&A by Bruva Alfabusa, well done!

  • @albertcapley6894
    @albertcapley6894 Рік тому +1

    I think... The Tyrant Star might be the Craftworld know as Lu'nasad or Dresil'ach (forgotten ruin) which is detailed in the Rogue Trader adventure "Fallen Suns". This is the interpretation I am running with in my own Dark Heresy/Rogue Trader campaign, and of course linking Erasmus Haarlock with the lost Craftworld requires a bit of GM legwork but I hope it will be suitably epic.

  • @Kamen_Hammer
    @Kamen_Hammer 7 років тому +15

    God-Emperor Damn it Malal!
    How many times do we have to tell you!
    YOU.CANT.BE.CANON.

    • @the_dropbear4392
      @the_dropbear4392 6 років тому

      Trazyn The Infinite not really

    • @bobross9581
      @bobross9581 5 років тому

      @@the_dropbear4392 Yes, yes he is, they just renamed him to Malice.

    • @the_dropbear4392
      @the_dropbear4392 5 років тому

      @@bobross9581 he's not. Unless you have statements that it's the same.
      All we know about malice is that the sins of malice follow it. And the talked to a deamon.
      It might just be a warp creature or a deamon of Tzeench messing with them

    • @bobross9581
      @bobross9581 5 років тому +2

      @@the_dropbear4392 He literally just got renamed Malice, it's the same side, but to avoid copyright problems they changed his name and gave him a warband, don't be dense.

    • @bobross9581
      @bobross9581 5 років тому +2

      @@the_dropbear4392 He literally just got renamed Malice, it's the same dude, but to avoid copyright problems they changed his name and gave him a warband, don't be dense.

  • @BaronPraxis8492
    @BaronPraxis8492 7 років тому +2

    Thinking about the daemons being extensions of the gods and how they can be summoned got me wondering: Is it theoretically possible to summon one of the actual Chaos Gods to the material realm, for however short a time?

  • @gregharris9397
    @gregharris9397 7 років тому +1

    Could we have a video of the Necron C'tan the Outsider. Since a lot of people are speculating the Tyrant star may be the Outsider.

  • @ricywright8296
    @ricywright8296 7 років тому +5

    one of my favorite theories so far. thank god the upload and keep up the great work good sir.

  • @wardogs667
    @wardogs667 7 років тому +3

    I know I couldn't have been the only one to ask for this topic, but I remember about, I wanna say, a year and a half ago when I found your channel to see if you could cover this. you were not kidding in the podcasts when you said you plan years ahead... Thanks for the vid and keep them coming!

  • @Invictus828
    @Invictus828 6 років тому +3

    Sounds very lovecraftian

    • @jaakkotoivola4619
      @jaakkotoivola4619 6 років тому

      It is rather Lovecraftian, especially its implications. While many jump to the conclusion "Cthulhu in 40k", it is not quite that simple. I would even argue that Cthulhu is already implied to be in 40k, or at least something similar to him already exists, and is but a part of the Tyrant Star´s prophesy rather than the end of it.
      The truth behind the Tyrant Star is practically impossible to pinpoint with what I know, and I have gone through the source material several times: It was intended to be vague so the GM of the game could tell their own story. There is only an implied "truth", which, if it was ever included in the 40k at large, would necessitate a vast story to establish its place at the current time, its current state and most importantly, its results.
      While I won´t say what the implied "truth" is, as I am unsure myself (my theories change with nearly every reading as I realize new connections or misconceptions I previously had), I can state with certainty that the result of this "truth", should it become reality for 40k, is the End of Days, the Eternal Night, the End Times.

  • @Ryan-gw3yv
    @Ryan-gw3yv 6 місяців тому +1

    "no one knows why they get aggressive with the tyrant star" my man never been vitamin d deficient. XD
    Great video.

  • @Cyrus-rodn45
    @Cyrus-rodn45 Рік тому +2

    The tyrant star could be the hive mind of the Tyranids.

    • @MasterIceyy
      @MasterIceyy Рік тому +1

      What if it's just a ridiculously large piece of Blackstone that the Necrons use to make their anti-warp pylons, that amount of negative psychic energy could explain why it causes madness and such whenever it appears

  • @elijahkelley7616
    @elijahkelley7616 6 років тому +1

    "Or could something even darker and more sinister be at play?" Like what? What could possibly be worse than the C'tan, Tyranids, or Chaos?

    • @jaakkotoivola4619
      @jaakkotoivola4619 6 років тому

      Quite a few things, considering it could be literally anything. The lore was left incomplete to allow the GM of a game to make their own story around it, but Komus´ true nature has been hinted at... And if those clues are interpreted as a whole rather than a single clue at a time, the implications are quite nightmarish.

  • @Erikjust
    @Erikjust 7 років тому +3

    So since GW doesn´t hold the rights to Malal who does, since he´s no longer officially part of the pantheon of 40k.

    • @elijahkelley7616
      @elijahkelley7616 6 років тому +1

      I think I read somewhere that the employee who created Malal back in the 80s quit and took all the rights to Malal.
      If the employee dies, does that mean they could get rights back or something?

    • @AnonymousAnonposter
      @AnonymousAnonposter 5 років тому +1

      This guy explains the situation ua-cam.com/video/ryeT8CbE9g0/v-deo.html

    • @Duppyman695
      @Duppyman695 4 роки тому +1

      I believe it was writers from 2000 AD ....... thats right we might see Judge Dread VS Malice/Malal

  • @jaakkotoivola4619
    @jaakkotoivola4619 7 років тому +5

    Many possibilities exist, but I am saddened that so few put much thought into Komus. Educated quess is the best that can be made. I have researched the Tyrant Star for five years already. It has become a hobby, an exhilarating use of my free time. The mystery is deep, but what I can tell you is that we are most certainly, and with proof, dealing with forces even Chaos and Necrons could never hope to comprehend.

  • @1985Cyrus
    @1985Cyrus 7 років тому +1

    Malal has returned!
    He has to pop in and out of the Warp to avoid his brothers noticing him and ending him.
    That or like the Ocean comparison maybe there is something worse than the Chaos Gods in the Warp and this is an extension of this being, in other words the Chaos Gods are sharks cruising near the surface, where this thing is a legend like Leviathan/Kraken of the deep waiting to rise up and drag down whatever it can feast on.
    Or maybe an insane Old One who has been corrupted after hiding for so long.
    So many possibilities, so much fun to speculate.

  • @riftdragon8421
    @riftdragon8421 6 років тому +1

    Who else is terrified at the thought of this star. A black star that causes madness and mutation. Damn you Malal

    • @jaakkotoivola4619
      @jaakkotoivola4619 6 років тому

      Rift Dragon well, I most certainly am absolutely exhilarated of the lore behind the Tyrant Star. Whether it is Malal's doing or something even worse (protip: it is much worse), the Tyrant Star provides us with a great unknown, a view of alien vistas of terrifying implications. It provides us a view of powers beyond the comprehension of gods, and my greatest desire for the future of 40k is to see the truth that unfolds and the struggle against the darkness that will consume the stars from the heavens, leaving only Komus, the Last Star to shine its hellish light of madness upon mortals.
      "And there will be no difference between Man and the Beast, for All Shall Be Returned."

  • @billrich9722
    @billrich9722 Рік тому +1

    Would be pretty funny if it was just a normal eclipse.

  • @rustkarl
    @rustkarl 6 років тому +1

    In regards to the madness brought by the star, doesn’t the C’Tan known as ‘The Outsider’ have the effects of madness attributed to it?

  • @jmagowan12
    @jmagowan12 2 роки тому +1

    Embrace the Darkness? Like believe in a thing called love?

  • @liamatkin1628
    @liamatkin1628 7 років тому +2

    "Money is of... no importance. I... want... the... STONES..."

  • @aBoogivogi
    @aBoogivogi 6 років тому +1

    Basically a chaos corrupted c'tan

  • @helmwall133
    @helmwall133 6 років тому +1

    Its a gate to hell, to the age of Sigmar.

  • @ideletemyinbox
    @ideletemyinbox 7 років тому +1

    Cracking episode Remleiz, very thorough. Speaking of stars, how about an episode about the Black Stone Fortresses of the Gothic War and their eventual fate?

  • @EntoniteCali
    @EntoniteCali 7 років тому +1

    Took a screenshot of the magic moment of this video being 40k views

  • @mattmorehouse9685
    @mattmorehouse9685 6 років тому +1

    The first theory has something of a problem: If the tyrant star is something of the tyranids why is it so far ahead of the hive fleets? Going so far ahead it would give the imperium time to recover and brings up the question of how the hive mind communicates with such a thing. Also, wouldn't there be specific signs of genestealer infestation?

    • @jaakkotoivola4619
      @jaakkotoivola4619 6 років тому +1

      Matt Morehouse Those are the exact points raised by Inquisitors to counter the Tyranid argument. All these theories have the same issue that the Inquisition faces: None of them can be proved to be true or false with certainty, as the key pieces of evidence one way or the other either do not exist or are nearly impossible to find.

  • @chubles42971
    @chubles42971 7 років тому +35

    My favorite characters in 40k are the Dark Gods. They remind me so much of me, especially Tzeentch.

    • @godemperorofmankind7255
      @godemperorofmankind7255 7 років тому +10

      BUT AREN'T YOU IN THE UNIVERSE?!!

    • @chubles42971
      @chubles42971 7 років тому +8

      God Emperor of Mankind I am and am not at the same time.

    • @angrylizardman1472
      @angrylizardman1472 7 років тому +10

      hey look two gods arguing

    • @chubles42971
      @chubles42971 7 років тому +9

      angry Lizardman Don't call him that it irritates him.

    • @pyrosauria7444
      @pyrosauria7444 7 років тому +9

      Cthulhu the Omnipotent Oh hey, have you found a new home yet since the seas disappeared on Terra millennias ago?

  • @jamiecoulson2822
    @jamiecoulson2822 6 років тому +1

    Please change the long cancerous intro

  • @kingMeNow2012
    @kingMeNow2012 5 років тому +1

    Could this star be some sort of tyranid organism that feeds on energy, perhaps even an extension of the source of the hive mind with the madness being due to a stronger version of the white noise.

    • @jaakkotoivola4619
      @jaakkotoivola4619 5 років тому

      The main theory related to the Tyranids (as far as the Inquisition is concerned) claims the Tyrant Star is the manifestation of the Hive Mind's presence. This would imply the Hive Mind is focusing its attention where the Tyrant Star appears. This could explain the lack of Genestealer cults on most of the world's visited, but also implies the Hive Mind is placing an unbeforeseen focus on a single sector. It could be Calixis Sector is the target of the main Hive Fleet for unknown reasons.
      This theory, however, has even less evidence than the theory claiming the Tyrant Star is called by witches and/or heretics or the presence thereof, which is concidered a foolish proposition by most Inquisitors and a sheer impossibility.

  • @dejannincic9671
    @dejannincic9671 6 років тому +1

    Malal: I WILL BE CANON I WILL BEEEEE!!! (cries)

    • @Duppyman695
      @Duppyman695 4 роки тому +1

      The greatest trick Malice/Malal ever pulled was convincing the world he wasn't cannon !

  • @Ralndrath
    @Ralndrath 7 років тому +2

    That's one thing I love about the Tyrant Star is the GM can make it whatever they want. I only Gm'd up to the first scenario of the trilogy, but I would've made it something different something even more unknowable than Malal or the other chaos gods. Something i haven't even thought up yet lol

    • @pyrosauria7444
      @pyrosauria7444 7 років тому +1

      The best shit in 40k tends to be the stuff we have little knowledge on as it leaves us wondering and afraid. The best type of fear is the unknown after all. :3

  • @darrianweathington1923
    @darrianweathington1923 5 років тому +2

    Malice or UNICRON!

  • @generalfluffyproto
    @generalfluffyproto 3 роки тому +1

    Sounds like a brotheran moon.

  • @QuinchGaming
    @QuinchGaming 7 років тому +2

    Isn't this a Soundgarden song? ;-)

  • @Xarcht
    @Xarcht 6 років тому +1

    The Tyrant star could be the prelude to the old ones coming to aid their creatures.

  • @Arei1283
    @Arei1283 2 роки тому +1

    It’s a reality peephole for Malal

  • @Sereze001
    @Sereze001 6 років тому +1

    We all know its malals fault

  • @gulfcoastwargamer2873
    @gulfcoastwargamer2873 3 роки тому +1

    Lets hope it comes out that its the same phenomenon that caused the Harrowing. A new threat from another dimension. Tired of everything being chaos.

    • @boomerkobold3943
      @boomerkobold3943 Рік тому

      ^ this

    • @MasterIceyy
      @MasterIceyy Рік тому +2

      Well 1 Eldar seer did state that there are bigger threats to the galaxy then the ruinous powers

  • @jaggon8588
    @jaggon8588 10 місяців тому

    The writing of DH1-era FFG books was truly remarkable. Whole Haarlock's story, Tyrantine Cabal, Komus itself.. the aura of horror, mistery and eeriness was so fascinating, even thought the campaigns (Haarlock's Legacy especially) were quite a mess. And the best thing was that the writers never actually explained what the Tyrant Star is, leaving it to the GMs and players to theorize and debate over.

  • @DeathSithe92
    @DeathSithe92 6 років тому

    Hmm strange, I wonder what that thing could be hmm, what do you guys take of it HHHMMMMM!!!!???? I WONDER WHAT IT WHO IT COULD BE FROM HHHHMMMMM!!!!.....also WHO THE FUCK YOU CALLIN LESSER GOD YOU RUSTED PILE OF CYBER DONGS 40K THEORIES!?

  • @SHDW-nf2ki
    @SHDW-nf2ki 6 років тому

    Has no one in the empire read H.P lovecraft?
    In at least one of his stories he wrote of a black star (which was actually a blackhole) that appear over a city shortly before some crazy lovecraft stuff happend in that city

  • @barrybend7189
    @barrybend7189 6 років тому +1

    Wow Five Star Stories nomadic black star is making quite a ruckus in Warhammer 40k.

  • @draconianwarking
    @draconianwarking 7 років тому +1

    I like the idea of a true chaos God of anarchy, it has no followers and so less power because it's disorder embodied, all the other chaos gods have a system set up and even work together at times, not so for the God of anarchy

  • @EmpPeng2k7
    @EmpPeng2k7 7 років тому +1

    Malal fits reasonably well but Personally I would associate it as its own entity, wither material or warp bound.

  • @harkenrebirth
    @harkenrebirth 7 років тому

    You know. That really sounds alot like the things that hapened to the Warhammer 40k worlds... Earth.... um.. Terra... That caused the mass destruction and devolving of humans on the world, before the emperor apeared. Mass mutations, psychers, chaos, death. A thing like the Sun becoming weird wouldnt be something people would remember, since most of the human history was lost back then. But it could have been a possibility.

  • @nikolasekulovic1006
    @nikolasekulovic1006 7 років тому

    Emperor proctects, brothers. Im very deep in this shit, cuz it is, without comparison, the best literal achievement of human kind, nothin is even near. Those who listened "The Betrayer" audiobook know of what Im speaking.
    As for the Tyrant star, it very well might be Sortiarius, cuz last time i heard Magnus and Aaraman were doin some epicly wierd shit there. Considering that even Greenskins figured out (Mork only knows how) how to teleport entire battle worlds all across entire sectors, I wouldnt be surprised that a Demigod and most potent Psyker in Galaxe did so aswell.

  • @NNNIII972
    @NNNIII972 7 років тому +1

    I'm coming bitches

  • @filiplykkegaardkastrup1876
    @filiplykkegaardkastrup1876 3 роки тому +1

    01:59 ah that explains it

  • @jacobfreeman5444
    @jacobfreeman5444 3 роки тому

    My feeling is it is a type of C'tan. We really only know what they are like post embodiment. Their actions and powers before this is not really known...and there is no reason to believe the Necron found all those that are, just the majority that may exist in the milky way. But something like the C'tan are sure to be intergalactic travelers. With a galaxy just being a particularly rich feeding area. Who knows what kind of habits those outside the milky way developed, especially the older ones. Wholely engulfing a star and driving any native populations it supports to frenzy, may just be its way of having a good meal. After all it is not just star stuff they feed off of. We know they like the stuff of life as well.

  • @Tillal8
    @Tillal8 5 років тому +1

    Hellstar Remina anyone?

  • @somedipshtinthecomments2507
    @somedipshtinthecomments2507 2 роки тому

    I think the Dark Heresy writers put it in there to give GMs a hook for thier campaigns. It's deliberatley vague so you can decide for yourself.

  • @MyLPMaster001
    @MyLPMaster001 2 роки тому

    Never forget that there is a mad lad, that can actually control or at least predict the cycles of the tyrant star (according to an official Warhammer dark heresy triology). The guy is a rogue trader of the Harlock dynasty. The dynasty was a key part of the initial collonialization of the Calixis sector, so they basically had time to study the phenomenon from the beginning of the sectors existence, probably predating even the Tyrantine Cabal.
    I also wanna comment on the theory of the tyrant star being the C'tan devouring the star of the system. It does sound nice, until you reallize that some of the reports on the tyrant star talk about it being a second sun besides the one of the system. With the additional lack of an explanation for the madness the star is linked to, I find this theory especially unlikely.

  • @dr.sweetlove7859
    @dr.sweetlove7859 4 роки тому

    Anyone else looking out for the Tyrant Star this 2020? This year is just tearing human civilization apart.

  • @eldritchgamer9934
    @eldritchgamer9934 7 років тому

    Ok let me break down why it's not malus:
    1st is't malus non-cannon due to the fact that the people who own his copy right leave gw?
    2nd if I recall malus is the god of unbelief and if he is he would have starved to death
    3rd if there was a prophecy then it's tzeench as hes the *architect* of fate meaning without him no proghesies whould be possible.

  • @TactlessC
    @TactlessC 7 років тому

    Not like it matters cause the RPGs are dead and won't be getting any new updates or lore acknowledgement considering current GW stuff...

  • @itsthemightyd2339
    @itsthemightyd2339 7 років тому

    Please shorten your intro. It's obnoxiously long and amateurish when compared to the rest of the video that's of good quality.

  • @paragonrobbie9270
    @paragonrobbie9270 3 роки тому

    I love me some freaky Lovecraftian bullshit like this. Some freaky astrological event happens at random and people start losing their minds while weird shit starts happening all over the planet that witnessed it...good stuff.

  • @noelgebert
    @noelgebert 7 років тому

    what a bunch of interdimensional 4th degree warp fuckery also hi malal , malice . guy of chaos. dont hurt me

  • @fafikommander1903
    @fafikommander1903 4 роки тому

    Am I the only one, who is really, really reminded on George R.R. Martins Wilde Card books?