The 40k Galaxy Is Doomed - So Why Doesn’t Everyone Just Leave? | Warhammer 40k Lore
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The setting of 40k takes place in a Grimdark future of our own Milky way, but why does nobody ever seem to leave the hellhole for greener pastures in a new galaxy?
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"I can't believe Horus commited so much heresy!! anyway, bring me my 40,000 warhammers"
- The God Emperor of Mankind
And then he manned all over those xenos.
@@casketbase7750 when he said its manning time it was truly one of the holy momen of all time
the cinema: 😮
When the Emperor went all man against Horus that was such a grim dark moment
This is exactly what 40k is lol
The only one who left the 40k galaxy is the DAOT ship A.I. after she grieved for the unjust deaths of her captain and crew, and easily wiped out the Imperials who had attempted to board and kill her. She was disgusted at how humanity had fallen this far and decided to leave.
From what I understand, the Silent King of the Necrons left, but then came back. Supposedly the C'tan known as the Outsider (the only C'tan who is not a shard, it should be mentioned) also left the galaxy, and is actually floating somewhere out there in the void between galaxies. Whatever galaxy the Tyranids came from, he's in their way, and whatever he's doing, the Tyranids are making a very, VERY wide berth around him.
Am I the only one that noticed Little Timmy is missing we genuinely need an explanation.
The Carcharodons would like a word.
@@angusshelford4316 i think he finally fed him to the nids
Ayo did the silent king dip out, see the nids on the way and come back
There being nothing but Tyranids out there is horrifying. Imagine the Milky Way is the last bastion of life, completely encircled, with literally nothing left.
That would be (IMO) Bad
And not Bad as a Good Thing
But Bad as a Very Bad Decision they could do
It would mean that The Tyrannids are LITERALLY the Winners
As stopping an Entire Universe of Tyranids would be LITERALLY impossible
@@aleanddragonITA The Milky Way would have to be a fucking Super Fortress to withstand this for a while a full fleet of tyranids
I don't know if the emperor would even know how to stop it
I don't even know if the old ones could do it (skeptical about the old ones because they probably could destroy them)
@@aleanddragonITA yeah,they would write themselves into a corner with that,there’s probably an unimaginable number of nids out there and they pose a massive threat but they can’t be all there is
Orks are there too
"Millenia ago, a probe was sent out from Terra, its mission to reach the utmost limit of the universe. The Techpriests who built it hoped that it would someday return to its place of origin. The probe still sends back faint signals after 14,000 years adrift. To the utter despair of the Imperial Techpriests who monitor the incessant battery of incoming signals, many are identified as Orkish. The depressing conclusion for mankind can only be that wherever they travel in space, there's a good chance that the Orks will either have been there first or won't be long in arriving."
Maybe not literally last as in the entire universe, because that's a huge stretch that honestly kinda destroys the suspension of disbelief, but rather maybe last in our supercluster.
Love that Tyranids seems to be the main threat while being the main punchbag aswell
They make a good base level enemy for everyone.
just send orks at them, boom no more nid invasion, yeah you won't get the planets back but you won't be a nids scooby snack either and the orks will love it
Nids are the Worf of 40k.
@@jimbothegymbro7086 Octarius war. Not exactly the best idea lmao.
They're the Goons of 40k.
What if Imperial probe scans outside the galaxy mistook Tyranids for Orks, because they hadn't encountered Tyranids yet and just read "big scary Horde".
Oh oh
It make sense
Check this out
"Millenia ago, a probe was sent out from Terra, its mission to reach the utmost limit of the universe. The Techpriests who built it hoped that it would someday return to its place of origin. The probe still sends back faint signals after 14,000 years adrift. To the utter despair of the Imperial Techpriests who monitor the incessant battery of incoming signals, many are identified as Orkish. The depressing conclusion for mankind can only be that wherever they travel in space, there's a good chance that the Orks will either have been there first or won't be long in arriving."
Here's another idea. What if it is Orks, but they are detected by the probes as they are in a fight or getting ready to fight.
Orks thrive on conflict, so the orks must be fighting something in the other galaxies to keep them alive for the probes to detect.
The probe was only a scan within the galaxy.
That doesn't seem likely. Orks use conventional communication methods based on electromagnetic radiation. It might be surprising to some that orks bothered to develop long-range communications technology at all - but they actually consider it a vital priority, since you need to have long-range radio in order to shout insults at anyone listening and challenge them to a fight. Tyranids, meanwhile, communicate psychically.
It would make sense that tyranids weren't detected by an automated probe, since you need astropaths to be able to perceive tyranid fleets at a distance. When traveling in dark space, the hive ships are in hibernation, and although they would be slightly warmer than the void around them, they wouldn't have nearly as strong an emissions signature as ork ships and settlements. Ork settlements are mostly powered by biofuels and nuclear reactors, and put out a lot of waste heat and other emissions even if the orks aren't actively broadcasting at the moment.
The Craftworld Eldar did want to leave the Milky Way Galaxy but was dissuaded, fearing that Slaanesh and his/her/its fellow Chaos Gods will follow them to another galaxy and corrupt it with their presence too as well.
Ummm sweety, Slaanesh's preferred pronouns are they/them.
Does the web way even get that far?
@@ao1778 and the craft worlders want the pronouns to be was and were
@@ao1778 fr you trying to do that🤣
@@louisnall3102 No lmao only the local galaxy.
I have a theory that there is sentient life outside the galaxy actively fighting the Tyranids, but they ignored the Silent King and keep jamming Imperium's probes due to them treating The Milky Way as a universal equivalent of an Insane asylum.
Perhaps that is why the nids are sent to the galaxy as well, not because they're going on purpose but rather that the galaxy serves as the universes prison world and thats why everything is so crazy
I'd like to imagine there's a STC-complete human golden age civilisation somewhere who terraformed their own solar system somewhere, looking at the Grim Dark Home Galaxy like a soap opera.
Maybe they even have their own Warp Entities to boot from human souls, seeing as the connection to the Chaos Gods of the Milky Way Immaterium might've been severed by the intergalactic void.
"50 BUCKS SAYS THE ORKS WILL TAKE THIS PLANET"
Wouldn’t surprise me if there were a few DAOT civilisations that quit the galaxy when old night fell
"Should we help them out?"
"Hell fucking no."
Idk about terraforming, but squats have a complete STC
@@snewsh Even if I mustered the mercy and empathy of literal saints, I could not fathom letting any of that shit near me. Stay over there you fucking maniacs
I like to think that somewhere in the WH40k universe there's an ultra-sophisticated alien society who's main entertainment is just watching the shit go down in our galaxy
Yea its called the orks
"Millenia ago, a probe was sent out from Terra, its mission to reach the utmost limit of the universe. The Techpriests who built it hoped that it would someday return to its place of origin. The probe still sends back faint signals after 14,000 years adrift. To the utter despair of the Imperial Techpriests who monitor the incessant battery of incoming signals, many are identified as Orkish. The depressing conclusion for mankind can only be that wherever they travel in space, there's a good chance that the Orks will either have been there first or won't be long in arriving."
That's us. We're watching/reading it all happen in an alternate universe that we can manipulate.
There was a few until imperium landed and genocided them lmao
@@k.dalexander3803 You think if there was a race who watched the shit going on in WH40K they'd be within 1000 light years of that shit? abso-fucking lutely not
*Cough. Cough.* the Witness. *cough. Cough.*
Couldn't an Ynnari alligned Craftworlds make the journey? They don't need spiritstone due to the Whisper and the druhkari have the tech to kidnap suns so they could just take one along for charging purposes. Sure Slaanesh would technically follow them, but Ynnead grows stronger with every eldar death. By the time the 25 millennia trip to the next galaxy ended Ynnead would have been able to accumulate over 25 generations of eldar souls.
Thats...... actually not a bad idea.
@@majorkill plus ynnari psykers, yvraine especially would likely be able to ressurect people if nesecary, although i dont think it wouldn't be worth even if yvraine wanted to do this plan
For starters,wether the inperium likes it or not,the eldar has played mvp regarding saving there asses from getting basically ganged up on fron pretty much everything,hell eldrad,while just as arrogant but still regarded AS THE WISEST ELDAR FARSEER basically said
"Ok look i fucking hate thoses guys as much as the next aeldari,but like it or not,if we want any hope of getting saved from eternal rape,humanity isnt going anytime soon. And if they drop,so do we"
Not exactly but still same reason, without the inperium,the eldar would be a ally short of kicking chaos ass,and its shown that when more factions work together,chaos and tyranids get the absolute shit kicked out of them
Granted the tau or leagues of votann could definitely be a substitute ally,but zealotry aside,theres a few reasons why the inperium, especially now with gman clutch saving them why there still kicking
@UZZIAH ABNER please stop with this stupid copy pasta
That'd be a great ending if Ynnead then captured and imprisoned Slaneesh.
@@majorkill The eldar Path novels actually stump this one. Alaitoc is endangered during them because as they reveal, it needs to periodically refuel by orbiting a star for a time. Chances seem high the interstellar gulf might be too far without a pitstop.
I like the following Theory about the Tyranids:
Pretty much as in the Video a creation of the Old Ones to wipe clean the Galaxy but not for Revenge but to starve Chaos.
The thought Process goes like this. Tyranids nom the Galaxy but they store and Record the DNA of all living Species they destroy. After Chaos is starved, the Tyranids go into reseeding Mode and restore the life in the Galaxy again and fall back in Hibernation until the Point were Psionic Energies wake them up again.
Edit: Okay Guys, after 5 Days I got the Message, I don't need to be reminded every Day that this is like Halo, I never played Halo, I don't know Halo but please write something different than Halo.
This is an amazing end game for tyranids! ive never heard this but its like a reset if someone in chaos figures out how to end the great game. Great theory is it self made or is their somewhere else i could learn more about this.
@@masonball4744 It's actually at least a few years old, I've heard it (in various forms) several times over the years. It's not a bad theory, but I honestly really doubt we'll ever know - the tyranids really should be left as an unknowable cosmic horror.
Halo
Flood is Chaos
Rings are the Tyranids
I much prefer the 'cold unfeeling epitome of natural selection' explanation. Just an animal from another galaxy which evolved so far it consumed its entire home world, then evolved to hop between stars, then evolved to hop between galaxies. A plague of locusts which travels from one galaxy to the next in an infinite universe.
Theories like yours are interesting, but not as interesting. Trying to tie the Tyranids into the existing plot inside the galaxy when they come from outside and outnumber its residents so monumentally feels small-minded. Two of the major factions already have shared origin stories in being created by the Old Ones, it's boring to shoe-horn another into that same box when the universe is so infinitely large.
So Reapers of Mass Effect franchise?
Fight the dying light to the end is one of the main points of 40k.
Exactly.
But that's also stupid.
@@davidbowles7281 I think it’s cool
That seems off.
I thought it was just edgy grimdark racism that we all love.
@@davidbowles7281 it's a consistent narrative theme that ties in with pre existing lore. You look at this at such a stupid surface level
The Old Ones while making the Tyranids:
"This galaxy is diseased! Rotten to the core! We have to pull it out by it’s roots, wipe the slate clean, *BURN IT DOWN!* And from the ashes a new galaxy will be born. Evolved but untamed!"
And then the Silent King started punching him a lot.
They shall be our finest warriors, these bugs who give themselves to eating everything. Like pudding we shall mould them and in the furnace of Norn-Queen we shall forge them. In great chitinous armor shall we clad them and with the greatest numbers will they be armed. They will have evolved tactics, strategies and bio-machines that after a couple millions of loses, no foe can best them in battle.They are our bulwark against the Necron. They are the Defenders of the DNA. They are our Space Bugs and they shall know no fear (within proximity of a Hive Tyrant).
- The Old Ones
Does that mean the courier is the enslavers or necrons?
Standing here I realize
The Old Ones didn't make them.
I remember an Episode from StarGate Atlantis, in which the Expedition found a Lantean Ship in the Intergalactic void traveling at 99% of the speed of light(Their FTL drive was destroyed in battle), the ship was traveling for 10,000 years, but because of relativity for them only a few decades have passed.
it wasn't destroyed they just couldn't realistically get back to the milky way because it would have taken thousands of years and the planet that had the super powered gate orbiting a unique star was destroyed
@@arcanegamer2723 The Captain of the that ship said that their FTL was destroyed during a Battle with the Wraith.
@@nobleman9393 Man I loved Stargate.
@@londonspade5896 I like SG Atlantis. For me, alien vampires were bigger threat for humanity (and ancients) than some tribe egyptian parasitic pseudogods. And this idea of being alone in different galaxy, looking for power source just to survive or maybe come back on earth. All the secrets of galaxy and Atlantis Starship. All new races and political stuff. It is similar - they come to different galaxy and wake up ancient space vampires from their nap.
@@Everthus4 Yeah Atlantis was my favourite, I meant I love the Stargate universe (and I liked that series too)
Nothing beats the Wraith as villains for a series
My favorite fan theory, to explain both the distance from other galaxies, the calmness of the warp, and the nids themselves; he nids are manufactured bio security. Essentially, after or during the war in heaven and subsequent corruption of the warp in the Milky way galaxy, some incredibly advanced race realized that the warp was being corrupted and created the tyranids to quarantine the Milky way off from the rest of the universe. They destroyed all life immediately surrounding the milky way, than entered into hibernation for an increase in severity. In current lore, the chaos gods are getting ever stronger (or at least more influential), and the hive fleets were sent to destroy, or at least reduce life in the Milky way to reduce the amount of life that chaos can draw power upon. This explains the few hive fleets to arrive in the Milky way, but more are on the way. In the event that chaos compeletly takes over, and literal hell breaks loose, then the entire nid foce will enter and consume all life in the milky way and suppress the warp back to a more manageable level.
This theory both contains an explanation for why the nids are seemingly everywhere, but so focused on the Milky way and yet not arriving in force. Also, this gives a take on the omnipotent Hive mind being some sort of Bio computer in charge of the nids. Sure, there are holes to this theory, but it's the one I have found to be the most thought provoking for their arrival, rather than just some arbitrary reason to include them into the setting. This theory also explains why their arrival is only happening now, and not ages ago when the Silent King first encountered them.
TL:DR Tyranids are created bio security, by some super advanced race (possibly some off shoot of the Old Ones), to keep Chaos in the Milky Way.
The problem with that theory is why is the Emperor tripping the switch?
The Pharos beaco during the heresy got thier attention but it is the Emperor's Astromicon that is luring in more and more Tyranids, they WANT the source of that light.
Interesting. . .
Tyranids are, clearly, biological Berserkers.
so a military isolating a city because said city has zombies. That's pretty awesome. It does explain why the nids don't just bulldoze everything.
I like this theory. Perhaps with the hive mind being the last old one and created humanity and Big E as an attempt to get rid of Chaos for good.
Warp Travel seems to be limited to the Galaxy, and quite frankly the Dark Space between Galaxies seems to be even more dangerous than anything found in the Milky Way Galaxy, because if the Races of the Grim Darkness of the Future don’t know everything about their own Galaxy much less what outside of it.
Outside of the warm, cosy light of the Milky Way, there's only Grim Darkness.
Looked it up on google.
Milky Way is 100,000 light years wide
Avg distance between galaxies is 9,900,000 LIGHT YEARS!!!
Yeah so basically why would anyone but a necron explore outside of it.
And there’s the fact most races don’t have the time or resources as they’re too busy fucking each other over
I like to believe 40k end times is Tyranids finally eat everything. All that survives is a few orks who decide this sucks and head off to krump another galaxy. The only reason they reach the next galaxy is because the ork navigator can see the next galaxy through his telescope therefor believes they're almost there. They fight for millions of years in the other galaxy making some of them evolve into krorks... that's when the Tyranids show up to that galaxy and warhammer 4000000000000000 begins.
Ah yes, Warhammer 40Krork-Billion
Damn!
But some sisters of battle must make it, too, else, where am I to find my Battlemace 40 Million Neko Marines?!
When the Nids close down the Big E Black Market Figurine Shop, where would I find my frilly powerarmor wearing Catgirls?!
@@arieshausdorff3396 hmm... I think I know morty plan for his next adventure with his grandpa
warhammer but only with da orks? now that'd be a dream come true.
jokes aside space Shreks being the sole survivors of some insane calamity makes sense.
@@arieshausdorff3396 I'm probably breaking some lore by saying this but the Nids could eventually become anime catgirls after adapting against Slaanesh.
It's a theory of mine that one of the lost Legions tried to escape the galaxy and that is the reason why they were purged from the history books
Well, I mean, escaping the clusterduck of death and destruction that is the milky way for a millennium every now and then is a pretty good incentive for the craftworlders to spend their time in the void. Much less risk of demon invasions, chaos space marines, dark eldar, imperials, necrons or orks paying a visit.
With the amount of stars in extreme orbit of the galaxy ... they could stay away from everyone forever ... but that would make a terrible story.
Except the edge of the galaxy is always the first place to encounter a new Hive Fleet making its incursion. So any such Craftworlds would be under constant threat of Tyranid invasion.
@@PhailRaptor the chances of one of the miniscule number of tyranid hive fleets travelling through the void accidentally intercepting the eldar craftworld is pathetically tiny
@@no-np8dwyeah and they had ample opportunities to do it before a device I forgot the name of that was destroyed by some space marines that resulted in a “Food Food Food” like beacon that attracted the tyranids
My addition to the Old Ones Tyranid Theory: Nids are not just a Reset Button but are Collecting all the Bio Mass and DNA of all life in the Galaxy for the old ones to rebuild after the reset
Stuff like this always makes me wonder if the warp is something universal or if the Milky Way is just abnormally terrible
Milky Way being terrible since the warp don’t go much further out of Milky ways borders.
The warp is a construct of all living beings beliefs and desires in the Milky Way. So makes sense it is just for this galaxy.
@@mikkel066h Only if other galaxies don't have sentient life. Unless GW massively retconned the Warp to be something entirely artificial and unique, it's a natural by-product of life itself interacting with the laws of the universe. Which would mean any populated galaxy would have its own "Warp"... whether like islands in a vast sea, or like individual bubbles surrounded by emptiness.
@@mikkel066h this also means each galaxy that has life has it's own chaos gods
@@Maggot-Milk Well not necessarily chaos gods, since those were constantly built up by specific things fueling them for millennia across the entire galaxy. If there's not a mass of those types of emotions then you'd just have minor entities existing and whatever life evolved there.
@@Maggot-Milk Possible yeah. Milky Way's is only so ass because we've had several different empires/civilizations spanning the galaxy for stupidly long amounts of time fueling aspects that became chaos. Even modern stuff in 40K is filled with it
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What about comparing bel'akor and bel'akor?
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@@ChillAssTurtle god damnit I will
9:00 I actually like the idea of Catan having multiple......"bodies" with a shared consciousness over multiple galaxies, it's a very Lovecraft concept that makes them seem more eldritch despite being essentially used as pokemon in current 40k
Ctans are one of the many things that are underutilized in 40k. mostly because they're not of human origin
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I'm still waiting for the Outsider to return.
@@numnaut1314 outsider, which one is that again (you hear enough 40k eldritch horror names and they start to blend together)
@@Scrombo2 The Outsider is the only C'tan that wasn't broken to pieces. After eating some of his C'tan bros he felt so bad he fled before the Necron uprising, he's currently eating solar energy in his dyson phere.
I could see Orks and Tyrranids constantly fighting eachother outside of the universe. Who knows the Orks maybe the only thing keeping the Tyrranids at bay from fully invading the milky way
Better yet krorks the last ones with their devolved cousins waging the biggest waagggggggh ever against the nids across billion of galaxies and the nids we see are running from a massive defeat
@@Bananakingchad krorks might very much exist in the outskirts of the galaxy because of the constant fight against tyranids
I don't think the old imperial probe lore was false, it's just old, they sent out probes heard brutal organic noises, and probably just assumed orks, more likely it was the not yet encountered tyranids
I personally like the theory where humanity did explore outside the galaxy and lived somewhere else during the golden age but then lost all records and communication during the age of strife. Imagine what peak humanity looked like if they didn't fumble the bag and kept going.
I feel like the Eldar of craftworlds have probably already left the milkyway with their fate unknown.
Video idea: How would each Primarch react and rule the imperium, if they were the one to return first instead of Guilliman
The Crusade never stops
I imagine some Krork would be capable of leaving the galaxy before they all devolved into orks. Would explain why there would be Orks elsewhere.
The idea that the whole universe is somehow colonized with Orks and Tyranids is just ridiculous.
I think it's more likely Orks and Tyranids are limited to the local galactic group and perhaps nearest neighboring galaxy groups of the Virgo supercluster
40k is pretty ridiculous at times
bs not true. There are other civilizations out there
Honestly though, I adore the idea that the universe is an apocalyptic eternal war between Orkz and Tyranids with the Milky Way being a peaceful pond in the middle of it all.
2:11 for start of video
On the topic of the C'tan, the Outsider is said to have left the Galaxy. Quoting Lexicanum:
"The Outsider is said to have gone into exile outside the Galaxy since then, living within a hollow planet far to the galactic south."
"Joagul Maskelyne, a serviceman of the Imperial Navy encountered the astrological engines and twisted geometries of the Outsider as his naval ship exited the Immaterium near the edge of the galaxy. The experience had weakened his sanity and his will to live. His report has been compiled with another report noting an unusual change of course by Hive Fleet Leviathan. No known celestial phenomena is known to exist in the location of the Hive Fleet's manoeuvre. However, auguries revealed a spherical object of unknown origin. The mere ability to have detected it with reflected light indicated either a measurement 32,000,000 times the size of Terra or an albedo range approaching infinity."
The Milky Way does have small galaxies orbiting us, it would be interesting to know what happened to them.
The first problem would be distance. Going galaxy to galaxy with space tech is the equivalent of trying to fly to jupiter in a jet.
I highly reccomend you read Graham McNeill's Adeptus Mechanicus trilogy, it follows the journey of an explorator fleet venturing beyond the halo stars and out beyond the edges of the milky way, in search of the final resting place of the last Magos to attempt the journey.
I literally finished reading it two days ago and loved it, and it could have fleshed out this video big time!
Bjorn the Felhanded also searched out beyond the galaxies edge for Russ and says the stars there "burn with strange fires".
The reason why they dont leave is because the Emperor is going to deal with the tyranids in the same way that he is going to deal with Orks, he is going to turn their greater power aka their hive mind against them, wich most likely will scare off the Tyranid hive mind into leaving the milky way galaxy alone.
Doubtful, as the Tyranids feel no fear. Big E will try to scare off the Tyranids, and then attracted a trillion more, like moths to a flame.
I don't want to be rude to you - but in comparision to all the other stories so far - this would feel like a cheap cop-out from a corner the writers have written themselves into. That would be the literal deus-ex-machina.
@@robertnett9793 I’m purely going off of what lore has been established. Never did I say it was fair, balanced, or even narratively satisfying. It is purely what has been revealed to us thus far
Even if they did leave the Milky Way galaxy given that it’s 40K there’s always the possibility of something being worse out there, beings with enough power to rival or even surpass the Old Ones that started all this.
Like what exactly?
@@suacemanaquiatan9380 a hot pocket that’s just a little too hot
@@suacemanaquiatan9380 maybe a very powerful eldritch horror that could rival the chaos gods.
Ah yes the classic theory that the Tyranids are actually running away from something much worse, just like the Xenians from Half-Life.
The Old Ones don’t strike me as grim dark. Yes they created the Warp as it is today, but not intentionally, and they aren’t described as malevolent or evil.
Can we get a in-depth breakdown of actual pyscher powers, Are they like the force from the Strar Wars or more akin to DND magic?
Short version: all psykers use the warp as a source of energy to manipulate reality, some use established methods (sorcerers and most imperial psykers) others go for more random stuff that either fits their personality (people attuned to nature would for example get an ability to sense what happens in a forest or stuff like that) or is a version of established systems they developed by themselves, often times more unstable. In all of the possibilities, the fundamental nature of the psyker as well as their talent is what influences what kind of powers they'll develop the most, tho weak but very experienced psykers can still outclass powerful but novice ones, so knowledge and experience is also vital. Of course all of this applies to human psykers, Eldar and Ork ones, as well as other races outside the tabletop, work a bit or wildly different (with Orks in particular, they just don't use the warp, but rather the Waaaagh energy), but the general gist of what I wrote still applies. Regarding your question, I'd say neither, and rather refer to Dragon Age, where all mages also channel the energies of an inmaterial realm which is also inhabited by demons that can possess unprepared casters
It only takes a few orks getting to another galaxy to infest that place.
Combine that with the fact that orks ships and space hulks often do not have any idea where they're going it is not unlikely some orks just moved to another galaxy by just going in a straight line until they hit a planet or got there by accident (or the will of Gork and Mork).
The Eldar could travel between galaxies, if they really really wanted to. There are intergalactic stars and they are common enough for Craftworlds to recharge, most likely.
You can take the Space Marine out of the Milky way, but you can't take the Milky Way out of the Space Marine... or something like that
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This will sound weird, but something I would be interested in seeing is Chaos actively preventing more people from embracing it. So, the galaxy is kind of screwed, and maybe some people might see Chaos as the way to escape/survive. Maybe Nurgle will make you immortal, and of little interest to the Nids, or perhaps Tzeentch will grant you power to turn even the most fearsome siege beasts inside out, and if your world Dios into the Sea of Souls, it might prove beyond the Nids' reach, while other threats find it difficult to directly attack Chaos on their home turf, so why not everyone embrace Chaos? Honestly, there are reasons; they need people/souls here to think, and dream, to give them sustenance, and power, so even the Ruinous Powers can't afford to just pull everything in. The Battle of Shadowbrink, from the 7e Tyranids codex is one of my favorite little 40k reads, because there's no Astartes, or Imperium; its simply Chaos Daemons vs Tyranids, and shows what happens when the sorcerous might of the Warp clashes with the accelerated protean nature of the Swarm. Chaos gets nothing from it, bit the Nids are desperate to chow down before everything is tainted, and their antithetical warp powers vie for supremacy. It's also cool because it forces Chais to actually fight, instead of just arrive, and pillage. I don't think Chaos will save us, bur I do like seeing them actually have to put the work in.
So eventually nids will grind down chaos too
@@legion999 I'm inclined to agree, but I look forward to seeing it. As the Nids eat more sentients, Chaos will eventually dwindle, and their mortal followers are biomass, like so many others, while Chaos may find it hardcto effectively fight them in a way thatcdoesnt cause the collateral damage that would simply help weaken Chaos, but it will be so nice to actually see Chaos fight on the defense, and because they actually have to, as opposed to want to. Maybe their Dark Mechanicus will create some weird devices that can target, and destroy, Tyranid DNA, or suck whole segments of Hive Fleets into the Warp, but otherwise, I think I see it going for the Nids.
When it comes to the silent king "running into" tyranids outside of the galaxy, I don't think that means that dark space was so thick with them that his fleet was literally finding hiveships in its path everywhere it turned. Rather, every time that they found heat and radiation/graviton/whatever signatures in the intergalactic void and investigated it, it invariably turned out to be more tyranids.
I still hold out that one of the lost primarchs is outside of the galaxy somewhere building his own imperium because he is either unable to return for some reason, or believes the IoM to no longer exist.
I think the orks from the different galaxy are the spores stuck on debris from the war in heaven that went flying/drifted out the galaxy. they became inactive due to the lack of sun and they were nothing but spores. which cause the tyranids not even bothering with them as they float/fly in the void. and when they entered a new galaxy with active suns. they started growing and spreading again. they could either be krorks or weaker ork due to inactivity for millions of years. but will soon adapt depending on their level of enemies.
Not enough time passed for debris to reach anything outside the milky way ... 60mil years is nothing on a galaxy scale.
@@MrFallenone There's plenty of warp based fuckery that you could explain it as being teleported out and/or propelled at massively FTL speeds
Kinda surprised you didn't mention that one C'tan that peaced out of the milky way during the war in heaven when his brothers started infighting. Im struggling to remember his name/backstory tho, though I think it was the Outsider? Either way, there's a full-fledged unshattered C'tan out there in the void somewhere, although whether that's better or worse than an innumerable amount of Tyranid, I can't say.
It would be interesting if another much larger empire entered the 40K universe. It could have a much larger army, maybe even more advanced technology.
But it wouldn't last ten seconds in a battle with the madmen and xenos who survive in the 40K universe.
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I could see Orks outside the galaxy were just in a Space Hulk that just popped out there not knowing or caring that they did.
"Millenia ago, a probe was sent out from Terra, its mission to reach the utmost limit of the universe. The Techpriests who built it hoped that it would someday return to its place of origin. The probe still sends back faint signals after 14,000 years adrift. To the utter despair of the Imperial Techpriests who monitor the incessant battery of incoming signals, many are identified as Orkish. The depressing conclusion for mankind can only be that wherever they travel in space, there's a good chance that the Orks will either have been there first or won't be long in arriving."
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When the galaxy is almost dead. It will be a punch fight between Orks and Tyranids
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as far as the orks go, i would think their extremely unreliable teleport tech would be a pretty good explanation as to how they left the galaxy. imo.
That or they pointed the ship the wrong way and whoever was navigating said they were almost there, whole ship bought into and boom they're in another galaxy
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For me the old lore terminator necrons wanting to eradicate life are better threat than the tyranids in the terms of esthetic. The cold unstoppable machines are more frightening that tonnes of small bugs. In my opinion, it would be much cooler if the nids would be more than just bugs (although, a perfect adaptable bio-machinery). For example, a fusion of Nurgle and the nids would do the trick (and this stuff exists in the lore to some extend).
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Without watching, I would say it's because the Warp is highly localized to the milky way galaxy. Even if there is a Realm of Souls for the rest of the universe, The Warp seems to just be localized. As a result of The Warp being localized, it would be impossible to use 40K-style Warp travel to travel to a place The Warp doesn't exist sort of like how it would be impossible to travel to another galaxy that isn't connected to the Webway.
The ultimate reason is simply that the writers don't want to increase the scope of the universe of their sci-fi world, very few sci-fi series do.
Aside from author contrivances, there's little reason why the Eldar couldn't have already done that during their golden age before Slaanesh was born. The Old Ones could have gone exogalactic, it's probly why we don't see them anymore.
I would say though, Slaanesh is a Warp entity, if the Warp exists in other galaxies, then the Eldar would be correct that they would be followed by her, however I really doubt Slaanesh has infinite range with her soul eating, if she were to follow the craftworld leaving the Milky Way, it would leave the remaining Milky Way Eldar safe from her devouring, I don't see her actually following the Craftworld that decides to say "screw it" and just left.
I agree the Necrons are the most likely to not only travel outside of the galaxy, but to do it regularly. The very act of leaving the Galaxy is literally a "We packed everything we need, including Factories"
Also, the most important part, if every faction, or any faction just packed up and left in their entirety, they would be leaving behind truly stupid volumes of infrastructure only to possibly go to a galaxy that's already packed full of warring civilization, or even worse, an entire united galaxy whom would look at them as a threat, since basically 0 factions are the peaceful type, aside from the Tau who, iirc, are kinda more just naive, but willing to coexist with the others who are beyond tolerance for one reason or another.
I feel like If the orks ever decided they needed to get orks out into the universe, theyre approach would be "alroight, lads, lets hurls some of those spores out there real hard, some are bound to hit sumfing good" and because theyre orks, it would work
I would really like to hear the warhammer 40k explanation for the huge voids we currently see and the fact that some of them are so nearly special.
Y'know, considering that the warp is a thing in the 40k universe, and would likely have similar effects as it does in the milky way as other galaxies, and that the tyranids are extra-galactic, I have no idea why anybody's under the impression that 40k gets any better once you leave the milky way.
Well no imperium is automatically a step up.
Orks are also intergalactic
"Millenia ago, a probe was sent out from Terra, its mission to reach the utmost limit of the universe. The Techpriests who built it hoped that it would someday return to its place of origin. The probe still sends back faint signals after 14,000 years adrift. To the utter despair of the Imperial Techpriests who monitor the incessant battery of incoming signals, many are identified as Orkish. The depressing conclusion for mankind can only be that wherever they travel in space, there's a good chance that the Orks will either have been there first or won't be long in arriving."
@@AbstractTraitorHero I mean... maybe? But with how bad warp corruption can get and with tyranids being a problem seemingly... everywhere, it wouldn't surprise me if every other alien civilisation out there was at the very least opressive and xenophobic, or so the pessimist in me says.
@@erds4113 Well we have enough evidence that plenty of xeno civilizations are not absolutely horrid. The T'au's allies even their psychic ones seem genuinely pretty cool and benevolent overall besides maybe the Nagi.
Even the Milky way which has things at their worst for aliens has many many alien civilizations not corrupted by Chaos. So I would think things are relatively okay, even if Orks and perhaps tyranids are a threat to these peoples.
@@AbstractTraitorHero I was more thinking 'galactic powers'. Most of the Tau and their allies can be better because they're less spread out and have encountered less bs out in the wild. Meanwhile the Imperium, Necrons, and pre-fall Eldar Empires were all brutal or insane in their own ways while being galaxy spanning. My take on it is that 40k's universe is so brutal by nature that every sizeable empire ends up becoming worse for it.
What would it take to siege the palace of each chaos god?
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I personally feel the Men of Iron need to come back as an active combative playable force with rules/codex and mini's and all like the Leagues of Votan. This would mix things up nicely I feel as well as giving an interesting opposition to the Tyranids and Necrons as well as giving an intriguing army to pitch against the Titans of the Mechanicus.
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So there is a possibility that humans can exist beyond the milky way
Absolutely.
From isolated colony worlds, or even a single habitat type space station, to a full K2 / K3 class civilization you can have literally anything. All the species in the milkyway have their heads so deep up their collective asses that none of them takes the time to step back, take a look and see how much better stuff they could do when they'd be willing to drop traditional design philosophies. But as we see with real world humanity, realizing one is on the wrong lane and actually deciding to do something agaisnt it are two steps that seem to be utterly exotic and incomprehensible even in concept to people in power.
So, about humans outside the galaxy:
There are many factors of why they would do their utmost best to stay away from the shitshow the Milkyway has become:
1) They were interested in stuff not okay during the DAOT. With the IOM being very strict about a lot of things... When you fled the Commonwealth of Man, you have even more reasons to stay away from IOM. And I am not worried about the mental health of your toasters here.
2) Any mixed society - humans and aliens, humans and geners, AI/AC, uplifts and baseline humans, whatever - will have perfect reasons to get even further away from the IOM than they were from anything ever before.
3) As we can, with our current technology, build stuff that would make the IoM piss its pants and which would be on a level with the Necrons toys, such a group also has a good reason to get more distance between itself and the IoM and the other species: As not to pour even more oil into the fire.
So, yes, you can have a lot out there between the galaxy and its satellites and even beyond that.
If I remember correctly there was the Herrman von Salza, an armed colony vessel around M11, which used a non-warp FTL drive.
It had the speed to cross the galaxy within a few years, just the way it travelled irradiated everything so strongly inside it that no matter what, the crew would be either hideously mutated or simply fried even after just a day of travel.
So, great drive system, well capable to reach other places like even other galaxies. Just you would literally have to either go with a full AI crew or would have to make tiny hops, always going from one star system to the next, to build your bridge to another galaxy, waiting for a new generation between hops. Or maybe make that better some generations for damages to the genome to heal.
So, possible it is.
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My head cannon is we already left and all the stories and games in 40k are remembrances from millions of years after the milky way was taken over by the xenos.
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Would be great to see Cawl give the middle fingers and activate AI since he is proven to be a risk taker. He literally released a Ctan from its prison when hanging out with the Scythes of the Emperor.
9:23 Actually, I've read that the tyranids were introduced to the 40k universe in 1987, whereas the first Halo game came out in 2001. So, it's more likely that Halo copied off 40k.
I've just connected a couple of this. Ratchet and Clank's Tyrrahnoids are just WH 40K's Tyranids but toned down holy shit I had to comment this
Incorrect.
I wouldn’t be surprised to hear about at least one orc warband going off to fight the Nids outside of the galaxy. Maybe they got there after a bad warp jump
8:58
C’tan of andromeda: yo how’s it going bud?
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I love the idea of Orks just being a species throughout the galaxy that the old lore suggested
Well, the Tyranids exist, and while GW doesn`t see to want to make them actually dangerous, they would def eat everything.
Orks you could justify because they are not the best prepared space voyagers. Mostly due to them hopping on whatever space hulk they can find and let Gork and Mork guide them. So if they ended up outside the galaxy that could be the reason.
Theyre everywhere
"Millenia ago, a probe was sent out from Terra, its mission to reach the utmost limit of the universe. The Techpriests who built it hoped that it would someday return to its place of origin. The probe still sends back faint signals after 14,000 years adrift. To the utter despair of the Imperial Techpriests who monitor the incessant battery of incoming signals, many are identified as Orkish. The depressing conclusion for mankind can only be that wherever they travel in space, there's a good chance that the Orks will either have been there first or won't be long in arriving."
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if an ork believed it could row a boat across the void between galaxies, it would make it.
Things to do in the milky way: leave
So what I'm hearing is the only options are to stay in a fucked up galaxy or try to leave and potentially get chomped on by Tyranids or get lost in the warp between galaxies. Also Day 21 of asking for a video on Perpetuals in Warhammer 40k and their current locations or status.
The Andromeda galaxy is like 2 million lightyears away. So even at FTL travel it would still take thousands of years to get to it, and that's INSANE FTL speed
Sometimes it feels like the only way the "Morally Prosperous" species could survive and dominate Chaos, Orks and Tyrannids, is to somehow form some type of alliance between Imperium, Eldars, Tau's and Necrons (and maybe Dark Eldars ? Or maybe better not) ? It would be a 4/5 parties conflict. Does it make sense imagining that in the future of this universe ?
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Whys that?
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5:17 Mate, the nearest galaxy is over two and a half million light years away. If you traveled at light speed, that's how long it would take to get to the Andromeda galaxy, our nearest galactic neighbor. Which is probably full nid territory.
The Milky Way in real life sits in the center of the biggest void in the universe. And biggest by a ridiculously massive margin. In 40k, this is probably because the Void Dragon and Tyranids literally ate the surrounding galaxies.
"Why doesn't everyone leave"
Isnt is implied the Tyranids are running away and thus whatever lies outside the galaxy is much worse?
That's fucking terrifying
They are implied to be running away as much as they are implied to be looking to consume yet another galaxy
It's never been implied they're running from anything.
The Silent King: "Hmmm, that's a lot of bugs. I don't really care for the organics in the galaxy outside of potentially using them to undo biotransferrence, but my people are still napping in there, so I guess I better go back and deal with those pests."
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What is first really?
Damn - I was so close. "Second" I guess.
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This. THIS is the biggest 40k question for me. Look, it'd be hard regardless of tech level but it's better than being dragged into Hell, literally. Some of these ships have already survived for tens of thousands of years, and even at only relativistic speeds this should be enough
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4:01 this was the most sensible ‘tantrum’ possibly ever thrown
Everyone knows the reason. The great hyperspace rift. Covered in the book “outbound flight”.
I don’t remember where I read it, but I do remember an old piece of lore that states the Imperium used to conduct “listening operations” at the edge of the galaxy using psykers and Dark Age tech. When they got the records back and examined them, they only found two transmissions.
In one coupe be heard the chittering and verminous roaring of billions upon billions of Tyranids.
The other was a recording of what sounded like Orks telling the recording device to suck their great green Nobs.
This implies that outside the galaxy is not only bad, but _extremely_ fucking bad. Nothing save angry green mushrooms and hungry bugs for lightyears around, maybe even everywhere in our local supercluster.
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