Nice video. We had a local shop install the same clutch and flywheel in our 23JLU. I can only guess that Jeep put that terrible clutch and flywheel in to save on EPA road course fuel testing because for an off-road vehicle it makes no sense. We have an Italian sports car with a similar light weight dual mass flywheel and for that application it rocks, however it has great feel. How did Jeep get the engagement so wrong? Do they even test their own products? Also the 3.45 gearing is a little tall in our Sport S especially considering we have the tow package. I’d love to see a Jeep engineer tow a 5000lb trailer up a grade from a stop with a factory Sport S manual. $20 says they’d stall it more than once. When we ordered our Jeep the only way to get the 4.11 axles was to spend another $15,000 for the Rubicon. I was planning on re-gearing but the ACT clutch is so good I don’t think we need to.
Oh, I know! It’s insane! As we said in the video. My TJ which is 20 years older feels 100 times better. We have a Miata that feels way better and I’ve had multiple other sports cars, including BMWs with dual fly wheels and nothing comes close to feeling as crappy as the factory set up. Luckily we scored this Rubicon crazy cheap used because it sat on the lot forever because no one knows how to drive stick anymore. But we came from a sport S gladiator. The gearing definitely helps out a lot. Thanks so much for reaching out! And the personal thank you for being a fellow manual owner and keeping it alive!!!
Thanks! Yes, couldn’t deal with the stock clutch at all! CMM offroad Jeep mirror review! #CMMoffroad #Jeep #gladiator ua-cam.com/users/shortsOzDSS8nHMUk?feature=share Made this short about them CMM. Love um.
How has the average mileage changed? I've got a 2020 JTR, had the clutch recall done in august, but the release bearing pooched. Im halfway through swapping to a centerforce. Hope to finish tomorrow. 35s and 2" lift. Stock 4.10s. CF also has new hydraulics.
No change in mileage. Funny you mention that. Just had a leak develop in the hose that connects the master with the clutch slave. Just received my CF clutch hydraulic kit the other day. Can’t wait to install!
My brand new bearing pooched again. I think that stupid finger piston from the slave cylinder didn't line up with the fork thing. Now I have to pull it out all over again
@@SavageTrails the shop thinks the bearing is fine. The factory slave piston bent trying to force the CF pressure plate. Gotta use the CF hydraulics. Still don't have it back yet.
Wow! Didn’t know that was a thing. Turns out I have off this weekend. Hopefully get to install my CF hydraulics. In any case let me know how you like it. Thanks for keeping me posted!
Nice video. We had a local shop install the same clutch and flywheel in our 23JLU. I can only guess that Jeep put that terrible clutch and flywheel in to save on EPA road course fuel testing because for an off-road vehicle it makes no sense. We have an Italian sports car with a similar light weight dual mass flywheel and for that application it rocks, however it has great feel. How did Jeep get the engagement so wrong? Do they even test their own products? Also the 3.45 gearing is a little tall in our Sport S especially considering we have the tow package. I’d love to see a Jeep engineer tow a 5000lb trailer up a grade from a stop with a factory Sport S manual. $20 says they’d stall it more than once. When we ordered our Jeep the only way to get the 4.11 axles was to spend another $15,000 for the Rubicon. I was planning on re-gearing but the ACT clutch is so good I don’t think we need to.
Oh, I know! It’s insane! As we said in the video. My TJ which is 20 years older feels 100 times better. We have a Miata that feels way better and I’ve had multiple other sports cars, including BMWs with dual fly wheels and nothing comes close to feeling as crappy as the factory set up. Luckily we scored this Rubicon crazy cheap used because it sat on the lot forever because no one knows how to drive stick anymore. But we came from a sport S gladiator. The gearing definitely helps out a lot. Thanks so much for reaching out! And the personal thank you for being a fellow manual owner and keeping it alive!!!
Great video! The JL clutch is complete trash. It's so inconsistent, as well.
I like your doors-off mirrors. Where did you get them?
Thanks! Yes, couldn’t deal with the stock clutch at all!
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Made this short about them CMM. Love um.
@@SavageTrails Great, thank you!
Why did you go ACT over center force?
Nothing against center force. I just have had a few ACT clutches in the past and they were all flawless for me. Thanks for the comment!
How has the average mileage changed? I've got a 2020 JTR, had the clutch recall done in august, but the release bearing pooched. Im halfway through swapping to a centerforce. Hope to finish tomorrow. 35s and 2" lift. Stock 4.10s. CF also has new hydraulics.
No change in mileage. Funny you mention that. Just had a leak develop in the hose that connects the master with the clutch slave. Just received my CF clutch hydraulic kit the other day. Can’t wait to install!
My brand new bearing pooched again. I think that stupid finger piston from the slave cylinder didn't line up with the fork thing. Now I have to pull it out all over again
That’s brutal! Sorry to hear. Sounds like that’s the problem. 😕. Keep me in the loop.
@@SavageTrails the shop thinks the bearing is fine. The factory slave piston bent trying to force the CF pressure plate. Gotta use the CF hydraulics. Still don't have it back yet.
Wow! Didn’t know that was a thing. Turns out I have off this weekend. Hopefully get to install my CF hydraulics. In any case let me know how you like it. Thanks for keeping me posted!