Glad you enjoyed it. Took me a while to drive the 500 miles to break in. Working from home and driving 2-5 mile trips. Thanks for watching! #JTRSPARTACUS
I'm sold. I'm not a fan of doing this as I just got the thing and have stalled a few times. I've driven manuals before and have never stalled a vehicle so many times it's kinda crazy.
The stock clutch is pretty weak and you have to give it a lot of gas to get going. The Centerforce clutch is a game changer! So easy to get going. Thanks for watching and if you haven’t already, please subscribe. Thanks
No additional RECC hang. The stock throttle is terrible as always but feels a bit better with this clutch. Gotta get Idrive or pedal commander done day. Thanks for watching! #JTRSPARTACUS
I have a question. It appears pretty obvious that your speed is slower in this video compared to the before test. My question is were your gears also changed to 5:13's after the first video was made? If so it means this test doesn't really represent an improvement solely from the clutch, the gearing would have a much larger impact. Just wanting to understand because I also have a MT gladiator and have been considering a clutch upgrade because I tow often and have concerns based on the OEM design.
Same, 5.13 gears. Not sure it was that much difference in person but it definitely looks faster in the before video. The key is that it still stalled - even if it was running more rpms (maybe lighter flywheel turned faster? ). I think the heavier flywheel and grippier clutch helps and it’s noticeable every day at stop lights and especially when backing. So much easier with the new Centerforce clutch. The test in 2nd gear seems to confirm the better hill climbing ability from this setup. I highly recommend this setup for towing and off road. Good luck!
Thanks for the video. Definitely going to look more into this. Glad it's not just me who has issues with the stock clutch. Have you noticed any improvement on engaging 1st or 2nd gear after making a slow turn? I tend to get some jerk while releasing the clutch with stock.
Definitely improved. Some of that could be variable valve timing too… however Heavier flywheel smooths out the touchiness/jerkiness. Shifts aren’t any faster or anything - no worse either. It just goes better. Highly recommend CF clutch kit. Thanks for watching! #JTRSPARTACUS
🤔 I might go with a low profile snorkel but still won’t go too deep in water. Just too many electronics in Jeeps now. Thanks for watching and stay tuned!!! #JTRSPARTACUS
It was about $1900 ($1200 for clutch and flywheel and $600 for labor, the other $100 for fluids, shop supplies etc ) but prices have gone up a few hundred dollars on the kit which now comes with improved hydraulics. My labor price was very reasonable at Keystone 4x4 - $100/hr and it took 6 hours. I’m guessing since we have crazy inflation that may have gone up too. Good luck! You will love it! #JTRSPARTACUS
Hello Brian I watch your video about the centerforce clutch and I will like to ask you if you have any issue so far with the new clutch , I reach centerforce to have one for my 2022 JT rubicon but they don’t have anything right now and until July that said, let me know if The clutch is good to wait for it , thanks
Thanks for watching and reaching out. Zero issues with the clutch. Works great. Hands down the best mod to my Jeep. Its expensive but it is something you literally use every time you drive. Its so much better on the road, off-road, and when towing. The only "con" is that the pedal effort is increased - not a big deal but it was noticeable at first. now I don't even notice it. #JTRSPARTACUS
@@nickritz4740 it ended up ust under $2,000. The clutch and flywheel kit costed about $1400 and labor was $600. Pricey …but totally worth it - it’s something you use every time you drive. It’s better than stick at towing, backing, offroad, at stop lights, on hills, etc. really the only small “negative” is increased pedal effort - I don’t even notice anymore. thanks for watching! #JTRSPARTACUS
It is a lot easier to tow now. No clutch slippage and the heavier flywheel seems to get the load moving faster/easier. Check this out. ua-cam.com/video/z74sj07lc4Y/v-deo.html Thanks for watching #JTRSPARTACUS
THANKS! Doing great. No issues. I’ve towed 2,700 lb atv trailer and it was much better than stock. Planning a long cross country trip this summer - no worries about my clutch. #JTRSPARTACUS
I got rid of my Manual JL because of the poorly designed clutch/flywheel/engine programming . After 3.5 years,Jeeps answer is a software update that limits the already dismal torque .
The heavier flywheel and grippier clutch is really a game changer! I love changing gears but the gutless stick clutch caused me to look for this solution. Thanks for watching!! #savethestick #JTRSPARTACUS
Got a new Mohave JT M/T last month and have about 1100 miles on the odometer so far. My only issue is starting from neutral to 1st. I either risk stalling it with my normal muscle memory with releasing the clutch and slight gas or I slip the clutch at 2k rpm to take off if the traffic stop is on an incline. Would this Centerforce clutch solve this issue of smoother take off from full stop without revving too much? 1-1.5k rpm would be ideal for initial take off in 1st gear. I also see two different CF clutch systems on CF website. One of them is dual friction one which I see from the title of this video is what you have?
I have the Centerforce dual friction clutch kit. It’s a more aggressively be, grippier clutch. The only down side is slightly more clutch pedal effort. I don’t even notice anymore. The Centerforce clutch is so much easier to take off - the grippy clutch and heavy flywheel along with the lower clutch engagement point really help to drive this vehicle! Good luck and welcome to the obsession OlllllllO!!! #JTRSPARTACUS
Great job, Brian and EXACTLY what I was wanting to see. I appreciate you taking the time and effort to put this together!!
Thanks for watching and for the support! #JTRSPARTACUS
Well that was definitely worth the wait! Hell yes!!
Glad you enjoyed it. Took me a while to drive the 500 miles to break in. Working from home and driving 2-5 mile trips. Thanks for watching! #JTRSPARTACUS
Looks like a good upgrade, I have been looking at them . Good video.
Highly recommend this! Good luck! Thanks for watching! #JTRSPARTACUS
You have another sub brother keep up the good work. ✌️
Thanks 🙏. I’m taking some time to plan a 17 day overland trek this summer to WY, MT, ID from Pennsylvania so content is stalled for a bit.
I'm sold. I'm not a fan of doing this as I just got the thing and have stalled a few times. I've driven manuals before and have never stalled a vehicle so many times it's kinda crazy.
The stock clutch is pretty weak and you have to give it a lot of gas to get going. The Centerforce clutch is a game changer! So easy to get going. Thanks for watching and if you haven’t already, please subscribe. Thanks
Thanks for watching and welcome new subscribers!! Help me get to over 1,000 subscribers… so close! I appreciate all of you! 🙏 #JTRSPARTACUS
went over 1,000 subs. THANKS !!!!!!!!
Time to try it out in the rocks!
Can’t wait. Been busy hunting and working. #JTRSPARTACUS
Does Centerforce have a clutch setup for my 1935 Studebaker Dictator?
They might. Check them out! www.centerforce.com
Hello.. Nice video on the Centerforce.
Have you noticed any additional Rev Hang with this setup ?
Thanks
Dan
No additional RECC hang. The stock throttle is terrible as always but feels a bit better with this clutch. Gotta get Idrive or pedal commander done day. Thanks for watching! #JTRSPARTACUS
I have a question. It appears pretty obvious that your speed is slower in this video compared to the before test. My question is were your gears also changed to 5:13's after the first video was made? If so it means this test doesn't really represent an improvement solely from the clutch, the gearing would have a much larger impact.
Just wanting to understand because I also have a MT gladiator and have been considering a clutch upgrade because I tow often and have concerns based on the OEM design.
Same, 5.13 gears. Not sure it was that much difference in person but it definitely looks faster in the before video. The key is that it still stalled - even if it was running more rpms (maybe lighter flywheel turned faster? ). I think the heavier flywheel and grippier clutch helps and it’s noticeable every day at stop lights and especially when backing. So much easier with the new Centerforce clutch. The test in 2nd gear seems to confirm the better hill climbing ability from this setup. I highly recommend this setup for towing and off road. Good luck!
Thanks for the video. Definitely going to look more into this. Glad it's not just me who has issues with the stock clutch. Have you noticed any improvement on engaging 1st or 2nd gear after making a slow turn? I tend to get some jerk while releasing the clutch with stock.
Definitely improved. Some of that could be variable valve timing too… however Heavier flywheel smooths out the touchiness/jerkiness. Shifts aren’t any faster or anything - no worse either. It just goes better. Highly recommend CF clutch kit. Thanks for watching! #JTRSPARTACUS
Cool
Thanks for watching and for the longtime support. I appreciate you! #JTRSPARTACUS
nice!
Nice my next upgrade but is there a reason you went with centerpiece over ACT
When will we see a snorkel air intake install and test ?
🤔 I might go with a low profile snorkel but still won’t go too deep in water. Just too many electronics in Jeeps now. Thanks for watching and stay tuned!!! #JTRSPARTACUS
What did the centerforce clutch upgrade cost you parts and installation? This is my next upgrade ('20 JL Wrangler Rubicon, 5.13 gears and 37'' tires).
It was about $1900 ($1200 for clutch and flywheel and $600 for labor, the other $100 for fluids, shop supplies etc ) but prices have gone up a few hundred dollars on the kit which now comes with improved hydraulics. My labor price was very reasonable at Keystone 4x4 - $100/hr and it took 6 hours. I’m guessing since we have crazy inflation that may have gone up too. Good luck! You will love it! #JTRSPARTACUS
Hello Brian I watch your video about the centerforce clutch and I will like to ask you if you have any issue so far with the new clutch , I reach centerforce to have one for my 2022 JT rubicon but they don’t have anything right now and until July that said, let me know if The clutch is good to wait for it , thanks
Thanks for watching and reaching out. Zero issues with the clutch. Works great. Hands down the best mod to my Jeep. Its expensive but it is something you literally use every time you drive. Its so much better on the road, off-road, and when towing. The only "con" is that the pedal effort is increased - not a big deal but it was noticeable at first. now I don't even notice it. #JTRSPARTACUS
How much was it out the door to have done?
@@nickritz4740 it ended up ust under $2,000. The clutch and flywheel kit costed about $1400 and labor was $600. Pricey …but totally worth it - it’s something you use every time you drive. It’s better than stick at towing, backing, offroad, at stop lights, on hills, etc. really the only small “negative” is increased pedal effort - I don’t even notice anymore. thanks for watching! #JTRSPARTACUS
Just under $2000. Pricey but totally worth it!! #JTRSPARTACUS
Have you noticed more towing capacity?
It is a lot easier to tow now. No clutch slippage and the heavier flywheel seems to get the load moving faster/easier. Check this out. ua-cam.com/video/z74sj07lc4Y/v-deo.html
Thanks for watching #JTRSPARTACUS
How is the new clutch holding up?
Holding up great! Zero issues. I’ve towed, off-roaded/rock climbed and daily driven. Getting ready to go to Yellowstone from PA. thanks! #JTRSPARTACUS
How’s the clutch after a bit?
THANKS! Doing great. No issues. I’ve towed 2,700 lb atv trailer and it was much better than stock. Planning a long cross country trip this summer - no worries about my clutch. #JTRSPARTACUS
I got rid of my Manual JL because of the poorly designed clutch/flywheel/engine programming . After 3.5 years,Jeeps answer is a software update that limits the already dismal torque .
The heavier flywheel and grippier clutch is really a game changer! I love changing gears but the gutless stick clutch caused me to look for this solution. Thanks for watching!! #savethestick #JTRSPARTACUS
Got a new Mohave JT M/T last month and have about 1100 miles on the odometer so far. My only issue is starting from neutral to 1st. I either risk stalling it with my normal muscle memory with releasing the clutch and slight gas or I slip the clutch at 2k rpm to take off if the traffic stop is on an incline. Would this Centerforce clutch solve this issue of smoother take off from full stop without revving too much? 1-1.5k rpm would be ideal for initial take off in 1st gear.
I also see two different CF clutch systems on CF website. One of them is dual friction one which I see from the title of this video is what you have?
I have the Centerforce dual friction clutch kit. It’s a more aggressively be, grippier clutch. The only down side is slightly more clutch pedal effort. I don’t even notice anymore. The Centerforce clutch is so much easier to take off - the grippy clutch and heavy flywheel along with the lower clutch engagement point really help to drive this vehicle! Good luck and welcome to the obsession OlllllllO!!! #JTRSPARTACUS
Part number is KDF157077 link www.centerforce.com/i-30500491-dual-friction-clutch-and-flywheel-kit.this
@@JTRSpartacus Thanks!
Why would you regulating the clutch be a test of the disc. why is slipping in engagement better than using gas. Or raising idle
I’m not touching the clutch pedal at all - no regulation. No slipping - it’s gripping. The stock clutch and very light flywheel suck.
@JTRSpartacus oh ok so not the clutch just comparing weight of clutch and flywheels
How much did parts and labor cost
0:52 lists. About $2k total. Worth every penny! Thanks for watching! #JTRSPARTACUS
@@JTRSpartacus did you have issues with the oem clutch overheating? What mileage did you swap at
@@AlanTrades no issues with it overheating. It was just too lightweight for me.