Please do the Russel Backcountry or the Earl Shaffer 75th year anniversary. First boot to survive the entire Appalachian Trail. Those exact boots worn by Shaffer are on display at the Smithsonian.
Could you perhaps make a review of Manitobah boots? They have some very interesting indigenous-inspired designs for winter boots and are often made from materials like sheepskin. I would love to get you take on them!
I've heard companies like Timberland referred to as "Zombie Companies". Basically, the original company gets purchased, then the Bean Counters figure out how to cut costs over time, which inevitably results in a loss of quality at some point, and once they've squeezed all of the money they can out of the brand name they go looking for more.
I think you are exaggerating a bit. I own a pair of premium Timberlands and there is nothing about them that suggests low quality. I have been wearing them casually for several winters with snow, rain etc. and they still look good and keep my feet warm. If you are looking for a work boot, they might not be the first choice. But then again, who buys this Timberlands model as a work boot?
I’ve heard interviews from people in the business, I believe it’s less cost cutting and more “out the box comfort” that they’re trying to achieve. A bark tan leather insole is cheaper than poron but not as comfy out of the box.
I take it you're unfamiliar with basically the rest of Timberland's product line? The Timberland Pro work boots are absolutely legitimate products, served me well when I was doing construction.
@@googeluser7098 It doesn't help that so many more people are willing to just throw footwear out and replace it rather than maintaining it. When that's what your customers are doing, it's hard to blame a lot of companies for going down this route.
They last forever. People are just snobs and think redwings are the only true work boot. For me I care more about the looks first and then quality second and timberland is just the 🐐 for me. Everyone has their own preference
@@UriNiererexpensive but not overpriced. The quality of nicks is astonishing, and the amount of work that goes into them is insane. For how long it takes to make them, I am surprised they don’t cost more.
@@solaceandserenity. that’s kind of how I feel. They are indeed over priced. I don’t think they can be argued, however, the workmanship is quite good. They’re more boot than I would ever need, so I can appreciate them without putting any money up for them.
I work in a giant steel mill in nw Indiana and they make us wear a specific type of heat resistant safety boots that have steel or composite toes and full metatarsal protection. We get a voucher to get a new pair once a year, but most of them go for around $400-500. The most prominent brand, and I the one I use, is call Hytest. I'd love to see you cut in half and review one of those. Some models are almost all leather and some have lots of composite materials. I tend to go w the leather options.
This is so spot on in every way. I've owned a pair of black premiums for a year now. I bought them because they were waterproof and I wasn't let down. I wore them in swamps and in flooded urban areas. They are very waterproof until the water reaches above the ankle portion and then it depends on how tight they are tied. They aren't too comfortable to be honest, but they are durable and the sole is very reliable. I was a little let down by how quickly the inside of the heel got worn down, I believe that was because a few times water got on the inside. The insole wasn't very durable too. Overall they are great for a waterproof boot but I really wish they were more comfortable, that sole is hard. So basically, he is right about everything based off my experience.
yeah i have these, and overall I'm happy. I got a half size up and put an extra in sole in them and that really help with the confort. I think they look cool, so i'm happy. Very good for rainy days
The buy for Timbs is to go for the 6" Pro. They're comfortable, cheaper, and are actually built to be a work boot, though you could definitely do the soft toes for casual use. Have about 3 years of work use on my steel toe ones and would definitely recommend them
Owned the American made Timberland boots in the early eighties, when the company was a very expensive luxury brand and they advertised in L’Uomo Vogue. They cost £100 back then which was easily a weeks wages. I was still wearing them on building sites ten years later.
Fyi timberland used to have a lifetime warranty on their soles. If they came unglued, they would send you a new pair after mailing in the old pair. Ive done it once back in the late 90s.
Another great review of a once well made and respecable boot. I last work them back in the late 70's and early 80's when they where still made a decent boot. No more. Big company buys them out and lowers the choice materials to something less. Thanks Weston for always saying and telling it like it is...
Are they actually lower quality or just an old outdated technology? I agree with Weston's review above but the boot is still good in winter for shovelling snow. Even though I know they’re more about style than function these days.
Well, thanks to Rose Anvil, always enlightening ! That's what it is besides being a tribute boot, a fashion boot, which people pay for, forget everything else :). I like those Thursdays in the video better for fashion though, the Timberland look is not for me.
@@LairdDavidson Not if you are cleaning and rewaterproofing regularly which you have to do with goretex anyways. no waterproofing that exists is maintenance free
@@kisong1960 there's no maintenance you can do to a Gore Tex lining in a boot. The linings split after a few months wear. The best you can hope for is to maintain the outer material with waterproofing products.
This was a spot on review. I have been wearing Tim's for over 15 years and I have noticed a decline in quality. They are great for stomping around town but they are not elite work boots. They are relatively comfy, especially when new, but the outsole is the Achilles heel. At some point the outsole will lose elasticity and paired the fiberboard on the inside of the boot, comfort drops to about zero. Eventually the outsole will begin to separate from the midsole.
As an owner of those boots, I don't like that they are super slippery, and the amount of small stones that get stuck in the sole makes them the worst work boots I ever had. Also, the upper leather part of the boot is not durable at all. They get scratched and cut easily even for non heavy-duty work like cleaning or moving.
My original Timberland’s were awesome. Early 80’s. I had them for like 20 years. They were comfortable and wore them everyday. My second pair i bought in the 2000’s were complete trash. I tossed them in the trash after two weeks.
@@eazy_e.7153 I mean, I can kinda get it seeing like he said these shoes are hard as rocks and they aren't quite as nice as they used to be and when you've had a pair of shoes for years you've worn in and such and expect new shoes to be kinda similar..... Well... Sometimes it isn't worth fucking around with
I wear these for work (automotive) over the Pro’s for a number of reasons: - the leather heel counter - they are very waterproof, which keeps things like coolant and snow off my feet - the treads wear out long before the sole will ever start detaching from the boot - the outsoles are solid all the way through, the outsoles on the Pros are half filled with foam - I’ve never had a seam stitch pop - they are plain, simple work boots, not covered in branding or rubber bumpers on the heel or the toe I wish the outsole were thicker or harder so they’d last as long as the rest of the boot, and that Timberland would make them in more work boot colors and grains, instead of purple or white or whatever the latest fashion trend. Otherwise, mine have lasted me over a year now and I’m only getting new ones because the sole is worn flat at my pressure points.
Tims were always my go to boot for around 13-14 years, the quality and durability was pretty up until the mid 2000’s, first thing to go was always the heel counter, I debated getting a pair of the American Craft line but ultimately I’m going to stick with my 877s!
Bought a pair of these five years ago, messed up with size chart and ended up wearing them on thick wool socks in temperatures below -10°C (or 14°F). Didn't wear them beyond the -35°C (-31°F) mark because we simply didn't have colder weather lately. Obviously can't tell much about comfort or insulation because I barely feel anything through these socks, but the outsole performs pretty good - doesn't break in frost, good grip on ice. Impressed with leather quality. I must say that fiberboard on my old pair still looks better than this new boot you just cut in half. The only near-fail spot is a centimeter of stitching on the heel. Might be a good option if you need something durable, slip-resistant and insulated, but also don't want to look like a polar explorer.
I live where it gets that cold and I could not imagine wearing these with thick wool socks in the winter unless I was only ever going from the house to the car and the car to right back indoors.
@@steveeab2364 Oh, I use them for really long walks in like -25°C while having no body fat to protect me. Either sock thickness is the key or you have very humid air where you live - the latter can make even mild frosts unbearable
I was so surprised when at a store I tried a pair of Timberland's on. I thought maybe it was the color so I tried the natural buck's on and they were the same. I can't believe people were spending so much money to walk in discomfort. Not that I'm more into comfort than style, but I've always looked for both in anything I wear, especially on my feet.
You must have tried on the actual dress Timberlands not the Timberland Pros for work or you know to each their own I myself have not found a more comfortable boots and this combined with dr. Scholl's work insoles
@lgc8902 I have no clue what you're talking about the reason I've been buying Timberlands for years and I get about two years out of a pair and because they come literally Prix broken in that you never get a blister from new pair of Timberlands I do real hard labor work and I build the infrastructure of this country at pave asphalt roads and climb down into sewer systems and now I'm going to project walking approximately 7 plus miles a day dumping trucks 8in direct attach Timberland you got to make sure they're just not made in China I've had good luck with the Bangladesh and the Vietnam Paris but if you get it in wheat color it's most likely coming from China and those ones fall apart fast I'm talking six months and I swear they just feel different on the foot man
Grew up with these as the "it" boot, but could never bring myself to by a pair as an adult because of how cheap they feel. Immediately fell in love with the Nick's Howard boot because of how close to this look that boot is, and bought a pair. Replace the leather laces with a nice set of yellow-and-red paracord laces, and they're amazing. Nostalgia meets good quality, and it's now my favorite boot.
They look great and aren't extortionately priced so tick most boxes for most people. Most people that buy them wear them for fashion reasons and not for work. They definitely look a lot better than the other work boots highlighted which is one of their main selling points
As a hip hop kid in the early 90's I wanted Tim's so bad! Was so disappointed when I got my first pair and realized how much they sucked. So uncomfortable. Fortunately, that led me to Clarks. My feet were much happier.
Bought a pair of Timberland Premium 6-inch boots about 7 years ago in 2016 and still own that same pair today. They have held up remarkably well under the stress of 7 years of almost daily use. I also have a pair of Frye boots, which are considered to be more premium, but I've found the Timbs to be more comfortable for daily use. Best $200 I ever spent on a pair of shoes/boots.
I came to comments to share the similar experience. I have them for about 5 years and use them quite often. First a few years I used them as a everyday boots, and last year I switched them to “work around the house” boots. These boots just refuse to die, so no complaints or regrets
I've been wearing this model Timb since the 90's and I'm not a NYer, I'm European (shout of for actually mentioning the Italian Paninari subculture that popularised them here in the 80s). So yeah its an urban fashion statement boot in a sense, but its actually efficient too. They're great when the snow hits, the waterproofing is indeed great. Pretty durable too as the pair I currently wear was purchased around 2014 and it still looks pretty new inside & out. I actually bought a second pair two or three years ago, just in case the quality drops but I haven't had the need to break those out yet! Comfort though is definitely average and I don't wear them for any work boot purposes. On a side note, the only other Timberland model I f with is the field boot. Now that's a NYC staple (they don't even sell that model in the EU). A Rose Anvil test/review on that one would be interesting!
I have used Timberlands 6" boots since the mid 80ties - I find them durable and comfortable - I have used them when I rebuilt a house, moved warehouse and I have used them for hiking/ wildlife Photography and as city boots - I'm on my 8th pair in almost 40 years and still have my pair no 5,6 and 7- the no 5 being used for really shitty work 🙂. I have always added a lamb skin/wool-fur innersole and I have always ordered the "W" version as the normal American version is much too narrow for my feet - Are they overpriced - not if you like the look and the way they wear
Great video, I wore a pair of Timberlands for about a year at a machine shop. Eventhough I was half the time in a chair programming the other half I was in front of a machine cutting a mold. My feet were killing me, I went to a podiatrist and he said I had fallen arches. Those things were flat inside. I started wearing Rockport after that. Arches came back.
IMO you have to wear third party soles with Timbs. I have high arches and I have to do that with a few different boots. Just a part of the boot game for me.
I also wore timberland in a machine shop. I had one of their shoes and like the other guy said, you do need different inserts, but otherwise a long lasting and comfortable shoe. The biggest selling point for me is the slip resistance. I would walk on oil and not even know it.
Very fair review, as always. It's worth mentioning that these boots last loooong. My first pair got a bad hole in the lining after more than 3000(!!!) miles of suburban wear! I guess the sole lasted that long because of snow. Speaking of which, these are useful winter boots, which can't be said for most of the compared boots.
I got a pair of steel toed classic timbs in a rush for a gig on a construction site. They stayed waterproof until i wore the toes right off... Two months later. I can't be too upset because they kept me safe, however back in the shop my new pair of jim greens are treating me better and for the same price 🤠
I had a pair almost 10 years ago and even then they just weren't comfortable and didn't feel well made, at least in the sole area. Currently one of my favorite boots is a Meindl Ohio GTX which is a German boot. Very comfortable and breathable and it has stayed waterproof for years despite me never actually waterproofing it.
I've had these boots for many years. I liked them at first compared to the cheap brands I was buying before for work but they're super heavy and the steel toe started cutting through the outer leather so they are no longer water proof. They were a good boot for what they cost but I'd spend more on a better quality boot next time
Bought a pair many years ago. Totally useless in a cold scandinavian winter. They were the most slippery shoes ive ever had. Ended up throwing them away.
Genuinely appreciate a great channel like Rose Anvil actually showing that a vast majority of these premium brands are full of utter nonsense and use clever marketing to deliberately mislead and manipulate the customer.
For what its worth, I worked in EMS for 20 years. I had a pair of black Timb's that lasted over 12+ years and took everything I threw at it - until the mid & outsole started separating. I'm on my 3rd pair in 25 years. It would be interesting to see a video on the longevity & durability of these various boots.
At one time i wanted to buy the Timberland boots. After watching your reviews, i ended up buying Blundstones. In fact i own 3 different pairs/models, between work and leisure, and those are the only thing i wear 8 months in a year.
I bought a pair of Tim’s around 2010 and worked in them for almost 5 years. I bought another pair around 2017 and they completely fell to pieces in less than a year. It seems like the quality dropped off drastically somewhere in that time frame.
The company was bought by vf in 2011 and they gutted the brand and ripped off everyone who bought a pair. Utter shite and I'll never waste my money on them ever again.
Used to wear a pair of black ones with good grip( I work on roofs) that would last a year or more prolly back around 2010. They were great and priced right. After a couple years went by of buying the same shoes, they weren’t coming close to lasting a year. I had to move on from Tims.
My only problem with timbs is the comfort. I've never been able to feel truly comfortable in them. So narrow, and heavy. But the look is great and they are waterproof and great for winter, which is when I wear them exclusively in the snow
I've had my black Timbs for almost 5 years now and I'm still overall very happy with how they've suited my needs, which is walking around the city (and occasionally trails) in the rain without a drop reaching my foot. I appreciate the honest, even analysis given in the video and I see the flaws, but not to the point where I feel like a fool for buying them (and especially not for the pink pair I found at a consignment store for $30!). I never even conceived of a leather infused with silicone, that's amazing to me even if that is the way they've done it for decades. When the time comes to replace, I will definitely consider those other brands you listed in the price range. Just subbed, keep it up man!
Agreed i have had mine for around the same time and switched to tims from redwings Best bang for the Buck, i can wear them for 8 hr no prob and i have flat feet and There Warranty is rock solid
For me, it’s the best looking boot amongst all the ones you compared it to. Simply said, I would not buy almost any of those unless I needed their performance. I sometimes want a decent enough boot that looks good, and sometimes I need something waterproof that looks good. It fulfills both those requirements, as I don’t work outdoors all day. It is also comfortable enough, and I don’t have to go far to get one. I think it really does fulfill its niche. One thing I would maybe wanna see is a 300 dollar “pro” boot with the same style but improvements in the criticisms in this video.
So essentially you like the boot with at best average quality with above average pricing, based solely on looks and a store close to you? Sounds like you haven’t progressed since 93 lol.
I bought a pair to wear them during winter in Vancouver which is rainy and every now and then we have snow or slush on the street. They've been doing a great job so far these last two winters. I agree that they are nothing more than a city boot for winter.
I can not tell you enough how much I appreciate what you do, I bought my Nick's Boots because of you after I couldn't justify Doc Martens anymore. They are the best thing I've ever bought.
@@appelscha23 they have a 2 and a half inch heel so yes, and you can order a 3inch heel. I was fitted in store and it was a great experience. Please be aware they took six months to arrive
I’ve always worked in timberlands I thought they were fairly comfortable, but then I bought my first pair of redwing boots, and I haven’t bought another pair of boots since…
I come from a backpacker past and remember when Timberland started appearing in stores as a backpacking boot look alike. I tried them. They were terrible. They quickly lost shape and support and no longer fit. Tried them again a few years later because they became so popular and same story. Shapeless after a couple of months of casual wear, no hiking, no pack. Great name though.
Shoes I would like to see compared on this channel: - Jordan 4 SBs vs regular Jordan 4s - Certified Lover Boy AF1s vs regular all white AF1s - OG Jordans (from the 80s-90s) vs their retros - A Ma Maniere Jordans vs their regular ones (I especially want to see the AMM 4s, since I have them) - Tiffany AF1s vs regular AF1s - OG Yeezy 350s Turtle Doves vs 2022 release - Nike "By You" Dunks vs regular Dunks (a lot of people are making them & claiming the leather is better just because it's tumbled lol) - Taft Boots vs other boots - New Republic Chelsea boots vs other chelsea boots Love seeing you debunk us Sneakerheads thinking a shoe is better quality than it really is. Lol
All the shoes you mentioned pay so much in licensing there's nothing left to make a quality product, so they are just trash quality made in SE Asia shoes. Even knockoffs have been shown to be better in some cases...
@@stevemcgowen This channel has done knockoff comparisons before & has never come across a knockoff that was better. He's even suggested for people to just buy the real thing instead.
@@lazzi2462 Of the brands you mentioned? I have seen knockoffs of Nike in Taiwan which looked better than authentic. I have a friend who has bought knockoff AF1's which were more comfortable than authentic. There are many levels of knockoffs, and the reality is some are as good as authentic, if not better. If all you care about is a logo and not comfort, there's no reason at all to pay 40x as much for a real product...
@@stevemcgowen You're mainly basing it off looks. I mean yeah, the average person may not be able to tell a difference, but the people who are actually into sneakers, boots, etc, definitely can tell a difference when you see someone walking around in knockoffs. I know there are several versions of knockoffs. Rose Anvil compared several fake Yeezy's & Jordan's in a past video to their real versions. Materials were different on some of them, construction was a lot better on the real pairs, & longevity of the shoes were better. He even said it himself after his most recent real vs fake video, "Everything we've seen so far tells me that fakes just don't live up to the standards of the authentic pairs."
@@lazzi2462 No one buys Nike shoes for comfort, or any fashion brands, because the reality is none of them are made for comfort- just to sell the logo...
I used to say that Timberlands were the best boot that you can buy. Can't say that anymore. I even remember when you could send your Timberlands back to the company and they would send you another pair that were the same or even better than the one you sent back to them; postage free and no extra charge.
Managed to get a pair of discontinued leather Timberlands after trying on multiple pairs of nubuck ones. Yes the OG ones were nubuck but the (external) quality difference is massive. Why would they discontinue the nicer ones? Luckily my local cobbler resoles Timberlands so hopefully the upper holds up and I can hold onto this rare find.
New York guy here. The Timb is kind of an all round boot and fits well for New Yorkers. its not a dedicated work boot but you can work in it. Its a fashion boot, but it's not a fragile thing you wear once or twice a year. Its waterproof so it handles the rain and puddles and snow and sleet like a champ. AND it's heavily insulated for those NY winters. Its not best in class for anything, but if you can only buy one boot it really shines. Galoshes are more waterproof, Snow boots are warmer, and dedicated work boots are sturdier, but it's hard to have all three and still be a Recognizable Fashion accessory.
Wow, I first discovered your channel from the video when you first cut in half Timberland boots & they were the wrong ones (the cheaper versions). And then due to the comments, you found out they were the cheaper versions, so went on to do these & was impressed by how much better they were than the cheaper ones. I love these boots for their look, just wish they were at least $180 like they were back then. I remember when the pandemic first hit & everyone was on lockdown, Nordstrom put these boots on sale for only $120 on their website. I regret not stocking up on them. Lol
I found that the way the Thursday does their tongue, if you are in rain or snow it will drip onto your foot around the tongue. I have the Stormking model and do not find them to be better than Timberlands.
Fair view, but a couple counterpoints. First, they are in fact waterproof and they are warm. Second, the comfort for the shoes comes from the insole, and to me, I found them very comfortable. Third, because the insole is giving you that comfort, you can just replace it when they start feeling stiff. Fourth, given the way people use them, they will absolutely hold up. I had paid that were full grain leather and I kept them for about 8 years, replacing the insole once or twice. Used them primarily as winter boots in NYC-they would be too hot in the summer. But you can certainly take them for a hike or do some yard work or other light chores in them. I don’t think they should go to a construction site, but I’m also not in construction. For casual wear, they perform well and will hold up over time. Calling them a tribute is a bit of a misnomer in my view though. The Iron Ranger also isn’t a work boot . . . Today. Maybe it was back in the 1930s or whatever, but now it’s just a style thing and redwing offers other boots for work. But the iron ranger isn’t a tribute to an old style of work boot. It just is that old work boot. Same thing with the classic timbs.
Yeah this model in particular of Tim's isn't allowed on work sites and industrial setting since there's no SA certification on it ( no steel toe, no voltage protection, etc.). Even in a professional school you would get kicked out for wearing these in class.
He said they were waterproof, he dunked em in a tank of water, and ACTUALLY SAID they were waterproof. But he did state facts that NO waterproofing lasts forever for leather.
Oh and the RW IR, is in fact a work boot, ANYONE who knows boots knows they’re more work boot than these have EVER BEEN. Take away the regulations, you’d be Alfred off a real worksite if you wore these.
Guess this explains why my first pair of timberland hiking boots lasted 15 years & the replacement pair (bought recently) only lasted 2. Actually been on your channel to get an idea of who the good reputable boot makers are these days so I can see if they make hiking boots.
Had a pair of the Pro boots for 20 years. Wore them for work around the house, and they worked great for occasional usage. The outsoles finally peeled off, but they were getting well past their prime, and at 20 years use what was a $100 boot (in 2000) seems like OK value.
I've been using a pair of steel toe Pro boots for about 2-3 years now. Gotta tell you, for the $150 I paid I am immensely happy. Definitely gonna buy another pair at some point
The best "wet proof" shoes I've ever worn are K-Swiss. Not the classics but the more modern ones. I wore them for 15+ years specifically because they kept my feet dry in wet grass, walking through rainstorms with no umbrella for multiple miles, etc... When I got home, I was soaked head to ankle. My feet were completely dry so I always bought them after that night.
Production is always impressive and the video is interesting for me despite never caring about Timbs at all. The eco-friendly explanations reminded me of Nike’s Terrascape stuff which I think might be pretty interesting to feature, as it’s claimed as being “made with at least 20% recycled materials by weight” without much elaboration. But the materials are quite interesting and decently impressive for the ruggedness.
The Timberland safety boots I've been wearing every day the past two years at work have been pretty good to me. When it comes to comfort, it's mostly the fit that's been best for me. My previous boots gave me calluses and those have now long since disappeared. When it comes to durability, they've held up really well. The leather's cracking, of course, but all of the stiches have held and - most surprising to me - I'm even still using the original laces. Only thing I've had to do is replace the insoles a couple times. When it does come time for new boots, I'll probably get another pair of Timberlands.
My timbs lost waterproof really fast with minimum wear because my pinky finger is harder than those boots. 🤣Apart from that they are good looking boots and very very stylish.
Just retired a pair of Timerland Pro Gravel Pit's. Overall for the year I used them they were a solid boot but the last few weeks had resulted in a destroyed boot heel that had lost all cushioning even with fresh insoles and large cracks near where my toes bent. These cracks grew to the point that I could see the Goretex layer under the leather. I final caved and got some Redwing Truwelt's and paid to have them dyed black. In short they were the definition of ok right down to my expected service life of one year.
I bought some Timberland boots in 1979; a novelty here in the UK; £49.00. They were excellent. I then bought, in 1980, two pairs of their boat shoes. All were first class. They wore for years. Sadly, from about 1990 or so, as Timberland became “trendy” the quality fell away. Another great American brand gone to hell in a hand cart.
I have a pair of classic 'heritage' premium 6-inch Timberlands in leather. I bought them around 2002/3, initially wearing them just in winter (they're great in the snow for grip, warmth and keep your feet dry). I had them re-soled in 2021. The cobbler (Tring shoe repairs - see his YT channel) ground down the the sole then stitched and cemented a leather midsole. Then he cemented a Vibram outer sole, which can then be replaced. On the inside, from early days I have a moulded footbed which ensures they're more confortable. So these Timberlands have served me well over 20 years as a casual boot, worn in an urban environment and out in the countryside on walks, and doing light manual work.
Seems good enough for the fashion boot that they are. I would imagine the Timberland Pro line would be more in line with an actual work boot, but perhaps you should let us know. 😉
I had a pair of Timberland hiking boots. The most comfortable boots I've ever owned, but they started falling apart within 6 months. I also have Timberland Pro insulated boots that are still in excellent shape after 3 winters. They're not nearly as comfortable, but they held up and keep my feet from completely freezing solid.
Yeah, bragging about the fur being made from recycled plastic. The ESG and DEI stuff is insidious. A company can't get wall street to invest without it. Better to go small and buy from brands that don't want wall street poking around their business.
I deliver pizza, so i dont necessarily need a "work boot", but i do work in any and all weather conditions, so i love wearing Timberland boots in the winter. They keep my feet warm and dry in and snow or cold rain. I have some of the cheap basic boots in gray nubuck, and some premium boots with a dostressed full grain leather. I love those premium ones with the distressed leather! And theyre plenty comfortable to wear all day while walking around, and the tread is very grippy on snow, ice, concrete, and wet tile floors when i come back inside the pizzeria.
We had a similiar situation up here in Canada . We had a winter boot Sorels by Kaufman . Best winter boot you could buy! But after 93 years Kaufmans went ot of business and Sorels were bought out by Columbia. They started cheaping out on material and making them offshore.They went from a boot that would last 10-15 years to a boot that fails in a year or two. They went from the ony boot you would buy if you worked outside in the winter to my last choice
Wow had no idea they were ever Canadian the most popular one I've seen from them is a sneaker wedge which I couldn't even find out easily if they were or weren't real Suede because they looked fake but were so expensive
Good review. The Pro line, as you briefly touched on at the end, is the workboot your want from them. It looks like the premium was at one time the premium work boot but as things evolved they made the Pro side and kept these for an entry and fashion product. I'm not mad at that. I am mad that the sole quality has changed. These things used to last forever, I had pairs that still looked new with little wear on the sole after a hard 3 years. Now try 6 months. I could see where from s business side that's not good as you want people to buy new, but Timb consumers buy new ones anyways.
I've worked in the same pair of Tims and the damage has been so minimal that they've only discolored, this is after being hit with a weed whacker every day for two years. I have only good things to say, but i do think that $200 is a bit steep.
Bought my Timberland boots in ‘82 on sale, £60. A pair of insulated, fully leather lined forest boots. F’in brilliant, no break in, superbly comfortable. waterproof. Vibram soles. Ten years later I needed to replace them, could not, gone to China, mine were made in US. I never took them to work, my work kills boots, they were too good for that. But I loved them,sailing in the snow, warm as toast. Brilliant hunting boots.
They’re as much of a lifestyle footwear choice as a Jordan 1 or Chucks. No one plays ball in 1’s or chucks anymore just like no one would wear a pair of Timb’s on a building site anymore. But they still want a piece of the nostalgia that you can only get from classics like these. After all of this I’d still buy a pair of Timb’s 😅 but then again I also have a few pairs of J’s and Chucks
I am 47years years old I grew up in south east Baltimore city from my first year of high school was 1990 - 91 the first pair of shoes I bought when I started High School we’re the NIKE AIR MAX 90s We Started back to School on Sept when Month of OCT every one start buying butters back then it got Cold in the mornings in Baltimore then later in the month it was Cold we would leave and catch the bus like 6 blocks from school and walk to the store lunch time but after every one start wearing butters you only seem Shoes and butters depending on what you were wearing but I wore nothing but butters for years I bought the 1995 Air MAX there where some other Air Max I’m trying to remember the names but IStart buying Nike Boots in 2009 for about 5 years then every one Start wearing under armor Shoes and there tactical boots I’m back to Butters Nike boots and Under Amor boots just came seen your channel this morning Great History lesson 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
One thing you didn’t mention: The dark brown leather fluffy part around the opening of the shoe tears off quite easily. Tims were my winter boots and that thing tore off after a couple of seasons. 😢
From everything you said, it seems like it should be a solid workboot. Also, the hardness of the sole seems like it should make the sole more durable. An idea for your next video: Best 150 to 250 workboot for all seasons.
I bought mine for the waterproof feature. That is what holds them a step above the rest. The leather on the other boots will be water resistant but only up to a certain point. .
I'm a mechanic and have been wearing Timberland or Timberland Pro for a long time. I switch back and forth and have no plans on changing. I like them and they last a while. I usually only replace them when they look too used.
I had a nice regular pair and a PRO pair. The Pro pair did not last and the regular pair took lots and lots of abuse. I’m an aircraft mechanic and I put them through mud, snow, water, chemicals like MEK and hydraulic fluids. I was extremely impressed by the sole. I was pulling on the leather upper and that’s what destroyed them. Also tying my boots tighter and tighter tore the leather where the laces attach. I’m trying a DD put but I bought them large which I’m upset about.
I have a pair of waterproof tims that I got cos I work in mud a lot. I hate them. They literally bruise my ankles despite how long I wore them to break them in. I've given up on them and now wear a pair of good ol' rubber rain boots instead.
I was a big fan of timberlands growing up. That is, until I actually started working construction. I dropped like $200 on a pair of timberland “pro” work boots and within two months the soles on both boots split completely through. Everyone said timberland had a great warranty program so I called timberland directly and spoke to a very nice woman who said they would replace my boots. So I mailed them off and waited for a new pair. Well…. A month later I came home to see a big box on my front porch and thought “ finally, they sent me some new boots”. Well to my dismay, it was my old boots with a hand written note saying, “ the boots show significant signs of wear”. No shit!! I work in them. Needless to say, that was the last pair of timberlands I purchased.
I am quite surprised about the review. I bought one of these about 10 years ago and used it quite consistently in the Norwegian Arctic winter, adding just a fluffy wool inner sole to keep me warm at -20°C. Some years later, I got a Sorel Caribou pair as a gift and my Timberlands perform way better in the cold. Still, I do not use either as a working boot, just as a winter boot, to go from point A to point B in snowy/icy surroundings.
I just bought a pair of Premium Black Timberlands. I also put a Dr. Scholls arch insole and the comfortability is night and day. For those that was form and function, the added arch insole helps a lot.
I have a pair I call my Christmas boots because they have gold hardware, red&gold stretchy laces and a honey vibram outsole. They were on clearance from their website for like $110! Timberland boots at full price aren’t a great deal, but on sale or clearanced, they’re great!
I was a Timberland devotee for many years, but noticed that every successive pair of work boots was lasting shorter than the previous pair and they weren't comfortable at all unless you added gel inserts. Last winter I switched to Thursday's and never looked back. Tims are crap now.
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Please do the Russel Backcountry or the Earl Shaffer 75th year anniversary. First boot to survive the entire Appalachian Trail. Those exact boots worn by Shaffer are on display at the Smithsonian.
Could you perhaps make a review of Manitobah boots? They have some very interesting indigenous-inspired designs for winter boots and are often made from materials like sheepskin. I would love to get you take on them!
Do dress shoes n designer sneakers
I've heard companies like Timberland referred to as "Zombie Companies". Basically, the original company gets purchased, then the Bean Counters figure out how to cut costs over time, which inevitably results in a loss of quality at some point, and once they've squeezed all of the money they can out of the brand name they go looking for more.
I think you are exaggerating a bit. I own a pair of premium Timberlands and there is nothing about them that suggests low quality. I have been wearing them casually for several winters with snow, rain etc. and they still look good and keep my feet warm. If you are looking for a work boot, they might not be the first choice. But then again, who buys this Timberlands model as a work boot?
I’ve heard interviews from people in the business, I believe it’s less cost cutting and more “out the box comfort” that they’re trying to achieve. A bark tan leather insole is cheaper than poron but not as comfy out of the box.
I take it you're unfamiliar with basically the rest of Timberland's product line? The Timberland Pro work boots are absolutely legitimate products, served me well when I was doing construction.
@@googeluser7098 It doesn't help that so many more people are willing to just throw footwear out and replace it rather than maintaining it. When that's what your customers are doing, it's hard to blame a lot of companies for going down this route.
That's parasite companies
I bought a pair of timbs in 2014 and i still wear them every winter to this day. Almost 10 years old and still holding on!
They last forever. People are just snobs and think redwings are the only true work boot. For me I care more about the looks first and then quality second and timberland is just the 🐐 for me. Everyone has their own preference
Always appreciate the frank criticism concerning big corporation boots. You are saving thousands of people from having shoe troubles!
Well, hes paid by nicks, which sells arguagly better boots that are extremely overprized.
@@UriNierer They are expensive, but not overpriced for how much work goes into them
@@UriNiererexpensive but not overpriced. The quality of nicks is astonishing, and the amount of work that goes into them is insane. For how long it takes to make them, I am surprised they don’t cost more.
@@highfructosedreams they're overpriced and overbuild for anyone who isn't a logger or wild land firefighter
@@solaceandserenity. that’s kind of how I feel. They are indeed over priced. I don’t think they can be argued, however, the workmanship is quite good. They’re more boot than I would ever need, so I can appreciate them without putting any money up for them.
I work in a giant steel mill in nw Indiana and they make us wear a specific type of heat resistant safety boots that have steel or composite toes and full metatarsal protection. We get a voucher to get a new pair once a year, but most of them go for around $400-500. The most prominent brand, and I the one I use, is call Hytest. I'd love to see you cut in half and review one of those. Some models are almost all leather and some have lots of composite materials. I tend to go w the leather options.
This is so spot on in every way. I've owned a pair of black premiums for a year now. I bought them because they were waterproof and I wasn't let down. I wore them in swamps and in flooded urban areas. They are very waterproof until the water reaches above the ankle portion and then it depends on how tight they are tied. They aren't too comfortable to be honest, but they are durable and the sole is very reliable. I was a little let down by how quickly the inside of the heel got worn down, I believe that was because a few times water got on the inside. The insole wasn't very durable too. Overall they are great for a waterproof boot but I really wish they were more comfortable, that sole is hard. So basically, he is right about everything based off my experience.
I only wear my Timbs with 3rd party soles. That solves my comfort issues.
I got the same one but when walking thru thick snows, it wasnt that water proof
Me, too.
Yea inside gets worn
yeah i have these, and overall I'm happy. I got a half size up and put an extra in sole in them and that really help with the confort. I think they look cool, so i'm happy. Very good for rainy days
The buy for Timbs is to go for the 6" Pro. They're comfortable, cheaper, and are actually built to be a work boot, though you could definitely do the soft toes for casual use. Have about 3 years of work use on my steel toe ones and would definitely recommend them
They are lighter and still water proof.
The last pair of timberline pros i had wore a hole in the toe in less than 6 months. 😊
@@alecb8509 that sucks man. What did you go to afterwards?
Owned the American made Timberland boots in the early eighties, when the company was a very expensive luxury brand and they advertised in L’Uomo Vogue. They cost £100 back then which was easily a weeks wages. I was still wearing them on building sites ten years later.
Fyi timberland used to have a lifetime warranty on their soles. If they came unglued, they would send you a new pair after mailing in the old pair. Ive done it once back in the late 90s.
You can still excange in the UK for the new pair !
Do they still have that warranty?
@druiz127 her in the states, i dont think so.
Another great review of a once well made and respecable boot. I last work them back in the late 70's and early 80's when they where still made a decent boot. No more. Big company buys them out and lowers the choice materials to something less. Thanks Weston for always saying and telling it like it is...
Are they actually lower quality or just an old outdated technology? I agree with Weston's review above but the boot is still good in winter for shovelling snow. Even though I know they’re more about style than function these days.
But as a waterproof fashion boot, it certainly isn’t the worst thing. There is some value to that water proofing
Well, thanks to Rose Anvil, always enlightening ! That's what it is besides being a tribute boot, a fashion boot, which people pay for, forget everything else :). I like those Thursdays in the video better for fashion though, the Timberland look is not for me.
Dry feet fashionable not a work boots is not a timberland pro
The waterproofing doesn't last long. After a few months wear they let water in just like Gore Tex lined boots do.
@@LairdDavidson Not if you are cleaning and rewaterproofing regularly which you have to do with goretex anyways.
no waterproofing that exists is maintenance free
@@kisong1960 there's no maintenance you can do to a Gore Tex lining in a boot. The linings split after a few months wear. The best you can hope for is to maintain the outer material with waterproofing products.
This was a spot on review. I have been wearing Tim's for over 15 years and I have noticed a decline in quality. They are great for stomping around town but they are not elite work boots. They are relatively comfy, especially when new, but the outsole is the Achilles heel. At some point the outsole will lose elasticity and paired the fiberboard on the inside of the boot, comfort drops to about zero. Eventually the outsole will begin to separate from the midsole.
As an owner of those boots, I don't like that they are super slippery, and the amount of small stones that get stuck in the sole makes them the worst work boots I ever had. Also, the upper leather part of the boot is not durable at all. They get scratched and cut easily even for non heavy-duty work like cleaning or moving.
My original Timberland’s were awesome. Early 80’s. I had them for like 20 years. They were comfortable and wore them everyday. My second pair i bought in the 2000’s were complete trash. I tossed them in the trash after two weeks.
wtf ? That’s hella CAP lol. 2 week? Did you lay concrete with them or something.
@@eazy_e.7153 he was putting in 240 hour work weeks in that time
@@eazy_e.7153 I mean, I can kinda get it seeing like he said these shoes are hard as rocks and they aren't quite as nice as they used to be and when you've had a pair of shoes for years you've worn in and such and expect new shoes to be kinda similar..... Well... Sometimes it isn't worth fucking around with
I wear these for work (automotive) over the Pro’s for a number of reasons:
- the leather heel counter
- they are very waterproof, which keeps things like coolant and snow off my feet
- the treads wear out long before the sole will ever start detaching from the boot
- the outsoles are solid all the way through, the outsoles on the Pros are half filled with foam
- I’ve never had a seam stitch pop
- they are plain, simple work boots, not covered in branding or rubber bumpers on the heel or the toe
I wish the outsole were thicker or harder so they’d last as long as the rest of the boot, and that Timberland would make them in more work boot colors and grains, instead of purple or white or whatever the latest fashion trend. Otherwise, mine have lasted me over a year now and I’m only getting new ones because the sole is worn flat at my pressure points.
I wish they would make the timberlands resoleable. They could have people ship their shoes back to them to resole.
You think a boot this expensive should wear down after 1 year? You’ve just shown how bad they are.
Tims were always my go to boot for around 13-14 years, the quality and durability was pretty up until the mid 2000’s, first thing to go was always the heel counter, I debated getting a pair of the American Craft line but ultimately I’m going to stick with my 877s!
I still have timbs i wear from 13 14 years ago.lolll i love them i just dont wear them as much as i used to when i was younger
Bought a pair of these five years ago, messed up with size chart and ended up wearing them on thick wool socks in temperatures below -10°C (or 14°F). Didn't wear them beyond the -35°C (-31°F) mark because we simply didn't have colder weather lately. Obviously can't tell much about comfort or insulation because I barely feel anything through these socks, but the outsole performs pretty good - doesn't break in frost, good grip on ice. Impressed with leather quality.
I must say that fiberboard on my old pair still looks better than this new boot you just cut in half.
The only near-fail spot is a centimeter of stitching on the heel.
Might be a good option if you need something durable, slip-resistant and insulated, but also don't want to look like a polar explorer.
I live where it gets that cold and I could not imagine wearing these with thick wool socks in the winter unless I was only ever going from the house to the car and the car to right back indoors.
@@steveeab2364 Oh, I use them for really long walks in like -25°C while having no body fat to protect me. Either sock thickness is the key or you have very humid air where you live - the latter can make even mild frosts unbearable
I was so surprised when at a store I tried a pair of Timberland's on. I thought maybe it was the color so I tried the natural buck's on and they were the same. I can't believe people were spending so much money to walk in discomfort. Not that I'm more into comfort than style, but I've always looked for both in anything I wear, especially on my feet.
You must have tried on the actual dress Timberlands not the Timberland Pros for work or you know to each their own I myself have not found a more comfortable boots and this combined with dr. Scholl's work insoles
@@yzrippinred backs are more comfier than timbs pro
@lgc8902 felt like concrete
@@thatchannel5294 what are redbacks?
@lgc8902 I have no clue what you're talking about the reason I've been buying Timberlands for years and I get about two years out of a pair and because they come literally Prix broken in that you never get a blister from new pair of Timberlands I do real hard labor work and I build the infrastructure of this country at pave asphalt roads and climb down into sewer systems and now I'm going to project walking approximately 7 plus miles a day dumping trucks 8in direct attach Timberland you got to make sure they're just not made in China I've had good luck with the Bangladesh and the Vietnam Paris but if you get it in wheat color it's most likely coming from China and those ones fall apart fast I'm talking six months and I swear they just feel different on the foot man
Grew up with these as the "it" boot, but could never bring myself to by a pair as an adult because of how cheap they feel. Immediately fell in love with the Nick's Howard boot because of how close to this look that boot is, and bought a pair. Replace the leather laces with a nice set of yellow-and-red paracord laces, and they're amazing. Nostalgia meets good quality, and it's now my favorite boot.
They look great and aren't extortionately priced so tick most boxes for most people. Most people that buy them wear them for fashion reasons and not for work. They definitely look a lot better than the other work boots highlighted which is one of their main selling points
As a hip hop kid in the early 90's I wanted Tim's so bad! Was so disappointed when I got my first pair and realized how much they sucked. So uncomfortable. Fortunately, that led me to Clarks. My feet were much happier.
Same felt like lugs were more comfortable
Bought a pair of Timberland Premium 6-inch boots about 7 years ago in 2016 and still own that same pair today. They have held up remarkably well under the stress of 7 years of almost daily use. I also have a pair of Frye boots, which are considered to be more premium, but I've found the Timbs to be more comfortable for daily use. Best $200 I ever spent on a pair of shoes/boots.
I came to comments to share the similar experience. I have them for about 5 years and use them quite often. First a few years I used them as a everyday boots, and last year I switched them to “work around the house” boots. These boots just refuse to die, so no complaints or regrets
i wear mine for a year and donate them. they look like trash after a few months of normal use.
My Timberlands are the best boots I own - waterproof, protective and comfortable. I could wear my boots for 15 hours and then sleep in them if needed.
Same man, I use mine as winter boots in minnesota. 5 years later they still look brand new which I didn’t expect but wow. The leather is very good.
I've been wearing this model Timb since the 90's and I'm not a NYer, I'm European (shout of for actually mentioning the Italian Paninari subculture that popularised them here in the 80s). So yeah its an urban fashion statement boot in a sense, but its actually efficient too. They're great when the snow hits, the waterproofing is indeed great. Pretty durable too as the pair I currently wear was purchased around 2014 and it still looks pretty new inside & out. I actually bought a second pair two or three years ago, just in case the quality drops but I haven't had the need to break those out yet! Comfort though is definitely average and I don't wear them for any work boot purposes. On a side note, the only other Timberland model I f with is the field boot. Now that's a NYC staple (they don't even sell that model in the EU). A Rose Anvil test/review on that one would be interesting!
In quegli anni magici erano gli americani a copiarci lo stile e non il contrario😂
I have used Timberlands 6" boots since the mid 80ties - I find them durable and comfortable - I have used them when I rebuilt a house, moved warehouse and I have used them for hiking/ wildlife Photography and as city boots - I'm on my 8th pair in almost 40 years and still have my pair no 5,6 and 7- the no 5 being used for really shitty work 🙂. I have always added a lamb skin/wool-fur innersole and I have always ordered the "W" version as the normal American version is much too narrow for my feet - Are they overpriced - not if you like the look and the way they wear
Great video, I wore a pair of Timberlands for about a year at a machine shop. Eventhough I was half the time in a chair programming the other half I was in front of a machine cutting a mold. My feet were killing me, I went to a podiatrist and he said I had fallen arches. Those things were flat inside. I started wearing Rockport after that. Arches came back.
IMO you have to wear third party soles with Timbs. I have high arches and I have to do that with a few different boots. Just a part of the boot game for me.
I also wore timberland in a machine shop. I had one of their shoes and like the other guy said, you do need different inserts, but otherwise a long lasting and comfortable shoe. The biggest selling point for me is the slip resistance. I would walk on oil and not even know it.
It's because of the narrow box
Very fair review, as always.
It's worth mentioning that these boots last loooong. My first pair got a bad hole in the lining after more than 3000(!!!) miles of suburban wear! I guess the sole lasted that long because of snow. Speaking of which, these are useful winter boots, which can't be said for most of the compared boots.
when you walk on ice, you might as well be wearing skates imo
What year did you buy these boots?
@@IgnisAurumProbat 2004. Then I wore them every ~October- march until 2012.
I got a pair of steel toed classic timbs in a rush for a gig on a construction site. They stayed waterproof until i wore the toes right off... Two months later. I can't be too upset because they kept me safe, however back in the shop my new pair of jim greens are treating me better and for the same price 🤠
I had a pair almost 10 years ago and even then they just weren't comfortable and didn't feel well made, at least in the sole area. Currently one of my favorite boots is a Meindl Ohio GTX which is a German boot. Very comfortable and breathable and it has stayed waterproof for years despite me never actually waterproofing it.
I've had these boots for many years. I liked them at first compared to the cheap brands I was buying before for work but they're super heavy and the steel toe started cutting through the outer leather so they are no longer water proof. They were a good boot for what they cost but I'd spend more on a better quality boot next time
Just sad. Popular brands focusing more on margins rather than quality.
Bought a pair many years ago. Totally useless in a cold scandinavian winter. They were the most slippery shoes ive ever had. Ended up throwing them away.
Did you buy the Pro’s or the regular ?
Genuinely appreciate a great channel like Rose Anvil actually showing that a vast majority of these premium brands are full of utter nonsense and use clever marketing to deliberately mislead and manipulate the customer.
For what its worth, I worked in EMS for 20 years. I had a pair of black Timb's that lasted over 12+ years and took everything I threw at it - until the mid & outsole started separating. I'm on my 3rd pair in 25 years. It would be interesting to see a video on the longevity & durability of these various boots.
Timberlands are essentially my boot equivalent of flip flops.
At one time i wanted to buy the Timberland boots. After watching your reviews, i ended up buying Blundstones. In fact i own 3 different pairs/models, between work and leisure, and those are the only thing i wear 8 months in a year.
I bought a pair of Tim’s around 2010 and worked in them for almost 5 years. I bought another pair around 2017 and they completely fell to pieces in less than a year. It seems like the quality dropped off drastically somewhere in that time frame.
Yeah they were once fully leather on the inside also, now only about 1/4th leather inside
I've had similar experience. Espically with the heel
The company was bought by vf in 2011 and they gutted the brand and ripped off everyone who bought a pair. Utter shite and I'll never waste my money on them ever again.
And they were $119 for yrs...
Used to wear a pair of black ones with good grip( I work on roofs) that would last a year or more prolly back around 2010. They were great and priced right. After a couple years went by of buying the same shoes, they weren’t coming close to lasting a year. I had to move on from Tims.
My only problem with timbs is the comfort. I've never been able to feel truly comfortable in them. So narrow, and heavy. But the look is great and they are waterproof and great for winter, which is when I wear them exclusively in the snow
I've had my black Timbs for almost 5 years now and I'm still overall very happy with how they've suited my needs, which is walking around the city (and occasionally trails) in the rain without a drop reaching my foot. I appreciate the honest, even analysis given in the video and I see the flaws, but not to the point where I feel like a fool for buying them (and especially not for the pink pair I found at a consignment store for $30!). I never even conceived of a leather infused with silicone, that's amazing to me even if that is the way they've done it for decades. When the time comes to replace, I will definitely consider those other brands you listed in the price range. Just subbed, keep it up man!
Agreed i have had mine for around the same time and switched to tims from redwings Best bang for the Buck, i can wear them for 8 hr no prob and i have flat feet and There Warranty is rock solid
For me, it’s the best looking boot amongst all the ones you compared it to. Simply said, I would not buy almost any of those unless I needed their performance.
I sometimes want a decent enough boot that looks good, and sometimes I need something waterproof that looks good. It fulfills both those requirements, as I don’t work outdoors all day.
It is also comfortable enough, and I don’t have to go far to get one.
I think it really does fulfill its niche.
One thing I would maybe wanna see is a 300 dollar “pro” boot with the same style but improvements in the criticisms in this video.
So essentially you like the boot with at best average quality with above average pricing, based solely on looks and a store close to you? Sounds like you haven’t progressed since 93 lol.
@@mikehawk120 Well yeah, is it that mind blowing nerd?
I love Jim Green's roughout boot they recently released, I'd choose those. Great honest review of what to expect when buying Timbs.
I bought a pair to wear them during winter in Vancouver which is rainy and every now and then we have snow or slush on the street. They've been doing a great job so far these last two winters. I agree that they are nothing more than a city boot for winter.
do you get stuck in grids and things bc of the rough sole?
@@appelscha23 Not really. You might get the odd twig or pebble caught in the sole but that's about it.
@@matiasgibbs251 thx, do they also add a bit of height? I'am a short king ;)
I can not tell you enough how much I appreciate what you do, I bought my Nick's Boots because of you after I couldn't justify Doc Martens anymore. They are the best thing I've ever bought.
are these good if you want to be a little taller?
@@appelscha23 they have a 2 and a half inch heel so yes, and you can order a 3inch heel. I was fitted in store and it was a great experience. Please be aware they took six months to arrive
I’ve always worked in timberlands I thought they were fairly comfortable, but then I bought my first pair of redwing boots, and I haven’t bought another pair of boots since…
I come from a backpacker past and remember when Timberland started appearing in stores as a backpacking boot look alike. I tried them. They were terrible. They quickly lost shape and support and no longer fit. Tried them again a few years later because they became so popular and same story. Shapeless after a couple of months of casual wear, no hiking, no pack. Great name though.
Shoes I would like to see compared on this channel:
- Jordan 4 SBs vs regular Jordan 4s
- Certified Lover Boy AF1s vs regular all white AF1s
- OG Jordans (from the 80s-90s) vs their retros
- A Ma Maniere Jordans vs their regular ones (I especially want to see the AMM 4s, since I have them)
- Tiffany AF1s vs regular AF1s
- OG Yeezy 350s Turtle Doves vs 2022 release
- Nike "By You" Dunks vs regular Dunks (a lot of people are making them & claiming the leather is better just because it's tumbled lol)
- Taft Boots vs other boots
- New Republic Chelsea boots vs other chelsea boots
Love seeing you debunk us Sneakerheads thinking a shoe is better quality than it really is. Lol
All the shoes you mentioned pay so much in licensing there's nothing left to make a quality product, so they are just trash quality made in SE Asia shoes. Even knockoffs have been shown to be better in some cases...
@@stevemcgowen This channel has done knockoff comparisons before & has never come across a knockoff that was better. He's even suggested for people to just buy the real thing instead.
@@lazzi2462 Of the brands you mentioned? I have seen knockoffs of Nike in Taiwan which looked better than authentic. I have a friend who has bought knockoff AF1's which were more comfortable than authentic. There are many levels of knockoffs, and the reality is some are as good as authentic, if not better. If all you care about is a logo and not comfort, there's no reason at all to pay 40x as much for a real product...
@@stevemcgowen You're mainly basing it off looks. I mean yeah, the average person may not be able to tell a difference, but the people who are actually into sneakers, boots, etc, definitely can tell a difference when you see someone walking around in knockoffs. I know there are several versions of knockoffs. Rose Anvil compared several fake Yeezy's & Jordan's in a past video to their real versions. Materials were different on some of them, construction was a lot better on the real pairs, & longevity of the shoes were better. He even said it himself after his most recent real vs fake video, "Everything we've seen so far tells me that fakes just don't live up to the standards of the authentic pairs."
@@lazzi2462 No one buys Nike shoes for comfort, or any fashion brands, because the reality is none of them are made for comfort- just to sell the logo...
I used to say that Timberlands were the best boot that you can buy. Can't say that anymore. I even remember when you could send your Timberlands back to the company and they would send you another pair that were the same or even better than the one you sent back to them; postage free and no extra charge.
Managed to get a pair of discontinued leather Timberlands after trying on multiple pairs of nubuck ones. Yes the OG ones were nubuck but the (external) quality difference is massive. Why would they discontinue the nicer ones? Luckily my local cobbler resoles Timberlands so hopefully the upper holds up and I can hold onto this rare find.
New York guy here.
The Timb is kind of an all round boot and fits well for New Yorkers. its not a dedicated work boot but you can work in it. Its a fashion boot, but it's not a fragile thing you wear once or twice a year. Its waterproof so it handles the rain and puddles and snow and sleet like a champ. AND it's heavily insulated for those NY winters.
Its not best in class for anything, but if you can only buy one boot it really shines. Galoshes are more waterproof, Snow boots are warmer, and dedicated work boots are sturdier, but it's hard to have all three and still be a Recognizable Fashion accessory.
Wow, I first discovered your channel from the video when you first cut in half Timberland boots & they were the wrong ones (the cheaper versions). And then due to the comments, you found out they were the cheaper versions, so went on to do these & was impressed by how much better they were than the cheaper ones. I love these boots for their look, just wish they were at least $180 like they were back then. I remember when the pandemic first hit & everyone was on lockdown, Nordstrom put these boots on sale for only $120 on their website. I regret not stocking up on them. Lol
I found that the way the Thursday does their tongue, if you are in rain or snow it will drip onto your foot around the tongue. I have the Stormking model and do not find them to be better than Timberlands.
Fair view, but a couple counterpoints. First, they are in fact waterproof and they are warm. Second, the comfort for the shoes comes from the insole, and to me, I found them very comfortable. Third, because the insole is giving you that comfort, you can just replace it when they start feeling stiff. Fourth, given the way people use them, they will absolutely hold up. I had paid that were full grain leather and I kept them for about 8 years, replacing the insole once or twice. Used them primarily as winter boots in NYC-they would be too hot in the summer. But you can certainly take them for a hike or do some yard work or other light chores in them. I don’t think they should go to a construction site, but I’m also not in construction. For casual wear, they perform well and will hold up over time.
Calling them a tribute is a bit of a misnomer in my view though. The Iron Ranger also isn’t a work boot . . . Today. Maybe it was back in the 1930s or whatever, but now it’s just a style thing and redwing offers other boots for work. But the iron ranger isn’t a tribute to an old style of work boot. It just is that old work boot. Same thing with the classic timbs.
Yeah this model in particular of Tim's isn't allowed on work sites and industrial setting since there's no SA certification on it ( no steel toe, no voltage protection, etc.). Even in a professional school you would get kicked out for wearing these in class.
He said they were waterproof, he dunked em in a tank of water, and ACTUALLY SAID they were waterproof. But he did state facts that NO waterproofing lasts forever for leather.
Oh and the RW IR, is in fact a work boot, ANYONE who knows boots knows they’re more work boot than these have EVER BEEN. Take away the regulations, you’d be Alfred off a real worksite if you wore these.
@@alexsherel3344 Timberland pros are more of a workboot than iron rangers. Get off of reddit boomer
Guess this explains why my first pair of timberland hiking boots lasted 15 years & the replacement pair (bought recently) only lasted 2. Actually been on your channel to get an idea of who the good reputable boot makers are these days so I can see if they make hiking boots.
Had a pair of the Pro boots for 20 years. Wore them for work around the house, and they worked great for occasional usage. The outsoles finally peeled off, but they were getting well past their prime, and at 20 years use what was a $100 boot (in 2000) seems like OK value.
I've been using a pair of steel toe Pro boots for about 2-3 years now. Gotta tell you, for the $150 I paid I am immensely happy. Definitely gonna buy another pair at some point
You can get'em resoled by a cobbler then you'll have a pair super comfortable work boots that's durable and iconic looking
The best "wet proof" shoes I've ever worn are K-Swiss. Not the classics but the more modern ones. I wore them for 15+ years specifically because they kept my feet dry in wet grass, walking through rainstorms with no umbrella for multiple miles, etc... When I got home, I was soaked head to ankle. My feet were completely dry so I always bought them after that night.
Production is always impressive and the video is interesting for me despite never caring about Timbs at all. The eco-friendly explanations reminded me of Nike’s Terrascape stuff which I think might be pretty interesting to feature, as it’s claimed as being “made with at least 20% recycled materials by weight” without much elaboration. But the materials are quite interesting and decently impressive for the ruggedness.
You know you sexy in that pic right?!
The Timberland safety boots I've been wearing every day the past two years at work have been pretty good to me. When it comes to comfort, it's mostly the fit that's been best for me. My previous boots gave me calluses and those have now long since disappeared. When it comes to durability, they've held up really well. The leather's cracking, of course, but all of the stiches have held and - most surprising to me - I'm even still using the original laces. Only thing I've had to do is replace the insoles a couple times. When it does come time for new boots, I'll probably get another pair of Timberlands.
Jim Green Boot + Tim's premium insole = Best girl
What size actually fits them? I have to buy a size 15 spenco insole and cut an inch off the heel to fit a Jim green size 12 toe box.
Tims is trash lol I’d rather just have my Jim Greens any day
@@uniq7778 agree
@Lycan3303 you agree? It was you who said they wanted the insole 😂
In South Africa those boots retail for R5000. In a developing country you can buy groceries for 4 months for that money 😬
Nathan Swartz (July 1902 - August 1984) was from Odessa,a Russian Empire-born shoemaker.
Misleading title…
It says “Timberland Pro”, but the boot being dissected in the video is a Timberland Premium.
My timbs lost waterproof really fast with minimum wear because my pinky finger is harder than those boots. 🤣Apart from that they are good looking boots and very very stylish.
that material science section has got to be my favorite addition to any recent video i've seen. So cool and insightful.
My feet cant withstand a day in these
🤔You won’t last an hour in their steel toes, the pain is real😂
Just retired a pair of Timerland Pro Gravel Pit's. Overall for the year I used them they were a solid boot but the last few weeks had resulted in a destroyed boot heel that had lost all cushioning even with fresh insoles and large cracks near where my toes bent.
These cracks grew to the point that I could see the Goretex layer under the leather.
I final caved and got some Redwing Truwelt's and paid to have them dyed black. In short they were the definition of ok right down to my expected service life of one year.
I bought some Timberland boots in 1979; a novelty here in the UK; £49.00. They were excellent. I then bought, in 1980, two pairs of their boat shoes. All were first class. They wore for years. Sadly, from about 1990 or so, as Timberland became “trendy” the quality fell away. Another great American brand gone to hell in a hand cart.
I have a pair of classic 'heritage' premium 6-inch Timberlands in leather. I bought them around 2002/3, initially wearing them just in winter (they're great in the snow for grip, warmth and keep your feet dry). I had them re-soled in 2021. The cobbler (Tring shoe repairs - see his YT channel) ground down the the sole then stitched and cemented a leather midsole. Then he cemented a Vibram outer sole, which can then be replaced. On the inside, from early days I have a moulded footbed which ensures they're more confortable. So these Timberlands have served me well over 20 years as a casual boot, worn in an urban environment and out in the countryside on walks, and doing light manual work.
Seems good enough for the fashion boot that they are. I would imagine the Timberland Pro line would be more in line with an actual work boot, but perhaps you should let us know. 😉
I stopped using timberlands about 10 years ago the quality they have just sucks then imagine it’s even worse now
ESG... ugh.
I had a pair of Timberland hiking boots. The most comfortable boots I've ever owned, but they started falling apart within 6 months. I also have Timberland Pro insulated boots that are still in excellent shape after 3 winters. They're not nearly as comfortable, but they held up and keep my feet from completely freezing solid.
Ah. So they've been ESG trash since '05. Good to know.
Yeah, bragging about the fur being made from recycled plastic. The ESG and DEI stuff is insidious. A company can't get wall street to invest without it. Better to go small and buy from brands that don't want wall street poking around their business.
I deliver pizza, so i dont necessarily need a "work boot", but i do work in any and all weather conditions, so i love wearing Timberland boots in the winter. They keep my feet warm and dry in and snow or cold rain. I have some of the cheap basic boots in gray nubuck, and some premium boots with a dostressed full grain leather. I love those premium ones with the distressed leather! And theyre plenty comfortable to wear all day while walking around, and the tread is very grippy on snow, ice, concrete, and wet tile floors when i come back inside the pizzeria.
cool, are these good if you want to be a little taller?
We had a similiar situation up here in Canada . We had a winter boot Sorels by Kaufman . Best winter boot you could buy! But after 93 years Kaufmans went ot of business and Sorels were bought out by Columbia. They started cheaping out on material and making them offshore.They went from a boot that would last 10-15 years to a boot that fails in a year or two. They went from the ony boot you would buy if you worked outside in the winter to my last choice
Wow had no idea they were ever Canadian the most popular one I've seen from them is a sneaker wedge which I couldn't even find out easily if they were or weren't real Suede because they looked fake but were so expensive
Good review. The Pro line, as you briefly touched on at the end, is the workboot your want from them. It looks like the premium was at one time the premium work boot but as things evolved they made the Pro side and kept these for an entry and fashion product.
I'm not mad at that. I am mad that the sole quality has changed. These things used to last forever, I had pairs that still looked new with little wear on the sole after a hard 3 years. Now try 6 months. I could see where from s business side that's not good as you want people to buy new, but Timb consumers buy new ones anyways.
I've worked in the same pair of Tims and the damage has been so minimal that they've only discolored, this is after being hit with a weed whacker every day for two years. I have only good things to say, but i do think that $200 is a bit steep.
Bought my Timberland boots in ‘82 on sale, £60. A pair of insulated, fully leather lined forest boots. F’in brilliant, no break in, superbly comfortable. waterproof. Vibram soles. Ten years later I needed to replace them, could not, gone to China, mine were made in US. I never took them to work, my work kills boots, they were too good for that. But I loved them,sailing in the snow, warm as toast. Brilliant hunting boots.
They’re as much of a lifestyle footwear choice as a Jordan 1 or Chucks. No one plays ball in 1’s or chucks anymore just like no one would wear a pair of Timb’s on a building site anymore. But they still want a piece of the nostalgia that you can only get from classics like these. After all of this I’d still buy a pair of Timb’s 😅 but then again I also have a few pairs of J’s and Chucks
I am 47years years old I grew up in south east Baltimore city from my first year of high school was 1990 - 91 the first pair of shoes I bought when I started High School we’re the NIKE AIR MAX 90s We Started back to School on Sept when Month of OCT every one start buying butters back then it got Cold in the mornings in Baltimore then later in the month it was Cold we would leave and catch the bus like 6 blocks from school and walk to the store lunch time but after every one start wearing butters you only seem Shoes and butters depending on what you were wearing but I wore nothing but butters for years I bought the 1995 Air MAX there where some other Air Max I’m trying to remember the names but IStart buying Nike Boots in 2009 for about 5 years then every one Start wearing under armor Shoes and there tactical boots I’m back to Butters Nike boots and Under Amor boots just came seen your channel this morning Great History lesson 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
One thing you didn’t mention:
The dark brown leather fluffy part around the opening of the shoe tears off quite easily. Tims were my winter boots and that thing tore off after a couple of seasons. 😢
Marketing IS generally LYING. Great to see a guy who literally expose these corporate lies, and shows us.
From everything you said, it seems like it should be a solid workboot. Also, the hardness of the sole seems like it should make the sole more durable. An idea for your next video: Best 150 to 250 workboot for all seasons.
They are so uncomfortable,couldnt walk with them for few minutes lol
This is now my fav channel - Love boots, but now I feel like I've had the education I always wanted to both purchase and appreciate them.
I took back 2 pairs of Timbs today. I'm done with that brand.
I bought mine for the waterproof feature. That is what holds them a step above the rest. The leather on the other boots will be water resistant but only up to a certain point. .
I'm a mechanic and have been wearing Timberland or Timberland Pro for a long time. I switch back and forth and have no plans on changing. I like them and they last a while. I usually only replace them when they look too used.
Rose Anvil is one of the most underrated channels out there. Keep up the amazing work brother, wishing you more prosperity and growth!
I had a nice regular pair and a PRO pair. The Pro pair did not last and the regular pair took lots and lots of abuse. I’m an aircraft mechanic and I put them through mud, snow, water, chemicals like MEK and hydraulic fluids. I was extremely impressed by the sole. I was pulling on the leather upper and that’s what destroyed them. Also tying my boots tighter and tighter tore the leather where the laces attach. I’m trying a DD put but I bought them large which I’m upset about.
I have a pair of waterproof tims that I got cos I work in mud a lot. I hate them. They literally bruise my ankles despite how long I wore them to break them in. I've given up on them and now wear a pair of good ol' rubber rain boots instead.
the explanation on how get fiber from plastic alone was great !
I was a big fan of timberlands growing up. That is, until I actually started working construction. I dropped like $200 on a pair of timberland “pro” work boots and within two months the soles on both boots split completely through. Everyone said timberland had a great warranty program so I called timberland directly and spoke to a very nice woman who said they would replace my boots. So I mailed them off and waited for a new pair. Well…. A month later I came home to see a big box on my front porch and thought “ finally, they sent me some new boots”. Well to my dismay, it was my old boots with a hand written note saying, “ the boots show significant signs of wear”. No shit!! I work in them. Needless to say, that was the last pair of timberlands I purchased.
racism wins once again
I am quite surprised about the review. I bought one of these about 10 years ago and used it quite consistently in the Norwegian Arctic winter, adding just a fluffy wool inner sole to keep me warm at -20°C. Some years later, I got a Sorel Caribou pair as a gift and my Timberlands perform way better in the cold. Still, I do not use either as a working boot, just as a winter boot, to go from point A to point B in snowy/icy surroundings.
I just bought a pair of Premium Black Timberlands. I also put a Dr. Scholls arch insole and the comfortability is night and day. For those that was form and function, the added arch insole helps a lot.
3:04 soooooo many cuffs 😍
They pioneered the work-leisure aesthetic for footwear. Just like Levi's did for jeans and sports brands for their "athleisure range".
I really appreciated the “how it’s made” segment! 😊
I have a pair I call my Christmas boots because they have gold hardware, red&gold stretchy laces and a honey vibram outsole. They were on clearance from their website for like $110!
Timberland boots at full price aren’t a great deal, but on sale or clearanced, they’re great!
I was a Timberland devotee for many years, but noticed that every successive pair of work boots was lasting shorter than the previous pair and they weren't comfortable at all unless you added gel inserts. Last winter I switched to Thursday's and never looked back. Tims are crap now.
Great touch to have the old music for the cut in half!
Beautiful video! The timing of your shots and edits are perfect, your time lapse is amazing! Thank you for sharing!!
Save those compliments for the production staff - THEY do all that stuff. lol