Will Bariss Offee Actually Join the Empire?
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- Опубліковано 26 тра 2024
- Jedi Knight Bariss Offee was known in the order for her discipline and adherence to the rules, it was shocking when it was uncovered that she orchestrated the Jedi Temple Bombings. We take a look at her motivations and what turned her to the dark side. The question is will she be a natural fit for the Inquistors
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I cannot wait to see Anakin see Barriss again cause you KNOW he's gonna be be hella vindictive towards her after everything she put Ahsoka through. The drama tho 😂
If she will be alive long enough
Curious to see if she picks up on any indications that Vader is Anakin…
@@paulmcnutt4657that would be fascinating to see. Very few people knew who Vader was after all
I think she will, somehow. Maybe a feeling or message through the force. That little look up after she bent the knee to Vader shows more emotions than just submissiveness, she had something else on her mind in that moment.
She may sense him through the force, just like Ahsoka in rebels. If she does so, he will have to kill her
Barris would have been a fantastic Jedi during the High Republic where her compassion and healing abilities would have made her a Legendary Hero, but you could only imagine how much her master failed her considering she could have help rehabilitate the Jedi image.
She definitely would have become a good Wayseeker.
You could tell at times Barris was envious of Anakins' relationship with Ahsoka. His care and concern for her.
That would’ve been really cool to have explored
The Inquisition partially arose from the inspiration of Barriss's speech, so it's clearly going to be her reckoning with the past. I find it hard to believe that Barriss will remain an Inquisitor for long, maybe around a year.
(In Rebels, the best move would have been to send Barriss after Ahsoka. The fact that they didn't do that suggests something happened, and Barriss is unavailable for some reason.)
The only thing she has left is something the Inquisition won't easily take away from her, and that's her morality. Her morality makes her character not a villain but a very gray and complex character (meybe anti-hero). Barriss will hate herself for what she'll have to do, and she'll certainly feel powerless. She can't fight this; she has to accept the past and realities and leave, betray the Empire.
Another scenario is her death.
I can only imagine her staying with the Inquisition only if they convince her with reasoning along the lines that they’re providing peace, prosperity, security, and justice to their new empire which is a complete overhaul from the previous republic government. If her moralities become distorted enough she might stay.
My main argument is that regardless of her views on the jedi temple she could have argued against them and leave peacefully when left unheard like Ashoka. Unfortunately her ethics has become twisted enough that she ends up bombing the temple leading to many innocents dying. Her reasoning may explain her actions, but it does not excuse them. While she’s coming from a good place, her extreme actions show that she’s indeed losing herself. The road to hell is paved in good intentions, a fine fit for manipulation for molding into the Inquisition.
(sorry, typing on my phone btw)
@@moodswings6238 "Peace, prosperity, security, and justice" - That sounds like Jedi lies, and let's be honest, the Inquisition is like a mini Jedi Order, only they don't necessarily lie.
If there's something truly evil, Barriss will be the first to see it.
Regarding Season 5, Barriss's intentions were noble and guided by her morality - the desire to end the war for the greater good. I agree it was wrong.
In Season 5, it's worth paying attention to Barriss's facial expressions; she's literally broken by what she did. She's ashamed of herself.
And that's likely what her character arc will focus on. All she has left is her moral code to be good and the Inquisition will try to take that from her.
It won't be a failure for her to turn to the dark side because she doesn't even acknowledge the concept of light and dark. The real failure would be if she were indoctrinated and become mindless murderer.
The only scenario I see where she voluntarily remains an Inquisitor is if Barriss believes it's all she deserves. That it's her punishment for everything, and she can't have anything more.
Oh man the Anakin and Barriss reunion is gonna be awesome.
If there is Vader dialogue, think they'll use the Respeecher tech like in Obi-Wan Kenobi? Or get Matt Sloan/Scott Lawrence to voice him in place of James Earl Jones?
@@benwasserman8223 hmmm, good question. I dunno, I could see it going either way, but I guess if I had to bet on it I'd go with the respeech, though personally I would prefer it if they paid an actual human being, whether it's Sloan or Lawrence or someone else. How about you? What do you think they'll do?
I wonder if her final task will be to execute Luminara. We don't see how she does after all. Just the hologram of her body walking to the coffin like box as a trap for Ezra and Kanan.
Cannot wait to see what Anakin will do once he sees Barriss
How about Ahsoka Tano
He's already working with Tarkin (who was pretty eager for Ahsoka to receive the death penalty after a rushed trial), so probably not much. That part of him is dead.
he WOULD
Working in a cancer ward, I can really identify with barriss' experience as a healer experiencing a fraction of the pain of those you're attempting to assist with healing.
Sometimes I do feel like I'm battling the boundaries between myself and their experience. It's hard to want to help without inadvertently hurting yourself if you extend your wish too far.
I just want her to realize she's become the very thing she accused the Jedi of being: A soldier in the army of the darkside, so far from the Light she once held dear.
And I hope the irony crushes her.
Bariss was the only Padawan besides Anakin Skywalker to survive the first battle of Geonosis.... likely messed her up in the head too.
Not true, many Jedi Padawans survive the battle of Geonosis. Only to be knighted and press into service in the Grand Army of the Republic.
Luminara was relieved to have finally ditched her padawan.
Although in our society we don’t send children to war, children are under pressure from our modern society. Your view of Luminara Unduli helped set the stage for Barris Offee’s downfall just as many influencers affect on impressionable children today. Rant aside , I’m looking forward to the Tales of the Empire.
You need to do some research if you really think in our era children aren't used as soldiers.
@@TheRibottoStudios He was probably talking about the 'western' world.
@ALLMINDmercenarysupportsystem As many as 20% of Civil War soldiers were younger than 18. So yes. Even in the "more civilized" western world children and teens were soldiers. The Confederacy had no minimum age set.
@@TheRibottoStudios Since when is the 1860s the modern era?
@ALLMINDmercenarysupportsystem are you serious? Are you serious? The modem era was from 1500 CE to 1945 C.E. there is NO excuse to be THIS ignorant when Google is right there, you absolute fool.
Just imagine Barriss met Ahsoka again and tell her the true meaning of her begging for Ahsoka to end her life on that mission after the Second Battle of Geonosis. What will be Ahsoka's reaction from such a statement?
It's kind of ironic. Luminrina personality as explained in this video does echo with some of my previous beliefs with the teachings of Juli Caeasr. One of his quotes that i took to an extreme level in the past was as follows "free yourself from the influence of friendship, anger, hatred and pity; when these intervene, the mind cannot judge the truth and noone ever served his emotions and best interests simultaneously ". Does sound similar to her view as well
If you think about it, Barriss is indirectly responsible for Anakin becoming Darth Vader. Sure, there was a multitude of reasons why Anakin fell to the Dark Side (Palpatine’s manipulation, the Jedi’s treatment of him, and his own fears of losing his loved ones manifesting into intense anger), but the one thing that cemented Anakin’s fall was Ahsoka leaving the Order.
Barriss’ attack on the Order and framing Ahsoka for it (which almost lead to her death) was the catalyst for the fall of the Republic, the destruction of the Jedi, and the subsequent rise of Darth Vader. And, timeline wise, by the time we get to Tales of the Empire, as far as Anakin/Vader is concerned, Ahsoka is dead. Another fallen victim of Order 66.
Vader hates himself for his actions, and feels nothing but constant pain and suffering everyday. He feels like he failed Padmé, he feels like he failed the Republic for siding with Palpatine. And the worst part is, he feels like he failed Ahsoka. His student, his best friend besides Obi-Wan, his little sister. And he felt like he wasn’t able to protect her. All because of one person; someone who Ahsoka considered a friend.
I can only imagine the intense feelings that Vader might when he meets Barriss again. That anger, that hatred. Vader might’ve tried to put the past behind him, but Anakin Skywalker was never truly dead. The Dark Side corrupted his mind, but it didn’t destroy him entirely. So, whatever happens in TOTE, it’ll be interesting to see how or if Barriss manages to even stay alive after meeting Vader.
I think Grand Inquisitor was implying Barriss was too nice.
Barris Offee is a Jedi who has my respect. Despite what she has done I don't believe she is truly evil. She loved the clone troopers under her command but she hated the jedi. And she did have a point when she revealed her motives to Ahsoka. In some ways I find that her hatred is Justified. The same can be said about Anakin Skywalker before he fell to the dark side and became Darth Vader. Somehow there were a few factors that justified his hatred for Jedi. But killing Jedi younglings was completely unjustifiable in and of itself. However, there was a comic that revealed his doubts about how he could actually go through with such a horrible Act. It was revealed that the dark side itself provided some kind of comfort for him and it made Anakin think that these younglings were taken from their parents and that nobody would want them and killing them was in a way, him doing them a favor. As completely unjustifiable as that is; I find it rather disturbing that the dark side could actually comfort someone like him into killing those younglings
I agree with you
Like annokin she was a good person who was just broken by the world they lived in.
Luminara really said “some of you may die, but that’s a sacrifice I am willing to make” ✋🏿😭
No but seriously I want to a Luminara backstory episode. I feel like if we understood her backstory, we’d be able to better understand why she’s so cold and detached like that.
Man, I just really want a video of why Alan thinks Shaak Ti was chosen out of all the Jedi to replace Jango Fett to oversee the training of the Clones on Kamino.
That’s not a bad idea
@@GenerationTech Dang, never thought you do a video from a request I made. It’s pretty surprising.
I always thought they would have wanted a powerful Jedi like Shaak Ti on the front lines
@@LaurenLumsden In Legends Shaak Ti is on Kamino for the first battle, but also leads on the frontlines. In Canon she’s rarely seen elsewhere besides Tipoca City and the Jedi Temple. According to Luke Skywalker, Shaak Ti was a great teacher, but why? What made her a great teacher? Why even have a Jedi replace Jango Fett because apparently Shaak Ti had to struggle with being impartial between the Kaminoans and the Clones despite caring for the latter.
I always smile whenever you include footage or content from the 2003 series ❤️
One of the best
Feels and emotions are actually 2 diffrent things. Emotions are made of feels. But emotions are stop stops feels flow
It's always good to see someone be a bit critical of the Jedi.
Is it just me, or has UA-cam tripled up on the adds? I'm looking forward to Tales of the Sith!
Ye I get one every 4 minutes and every other ad break is two ads
I think Barriss' expressions throughout the trailer kinda hints where her story will go. In almost every shot she doesn't look angry, but... deeply sad. She doesn't have Sith eyes either. So she is not consumed by the Dark Side, but probably going to be a grey Jedi of sorts.
So I think she has a will to survive and will go along with the inquisitors, but she will leave them at the first opportunity.
i'm happy to hear Allen didn't have to go through the horror of being kidnapped by Santa as a child he wasn't just after your milk and cookies like the media tells you.
Bariss's betrayal of the Republic came from a good intent, but was ultimately misguided, which is the saddest part about it.
I think it’s a coin toss. Barriss certainly has fallen to the Dark Side and that not only usually ends badly, but it also feels like a sort of drug people can’t let go. Barriss also might feel like her views have been validated given the fall of the Jedi. Maybe she thinks the Jedi actually wanted to take over the government to stop the public from turning on them. Maybe she even wants revenge on the Jedi because they locked her up and are continuing the war by opposing the Empire alongside rebel groups.
On the other hand Barriss may feel that becoming an Inquisitor would be an act of hypocrisy and a bigger betrayal of the Light Side than what the Jedi Order did. Maybe she does realize how she betrayed the Jedi Order and wants to help out the survivors from within. Maybe she sees how the Sith manipulated everything and wants revenge. Hearing about the terrible fate of her master and how Ahsoka is still on the run might affect her. Maybe she finds her connection to the Dark Side as painful and repulsive.
It’s really a coin toss to me on what her fate is going to be. If she becomes an Inquisitor, she’s another fallen Clone Wars Jedi. If she ends up rejecting that path, she retained some of her Jedi teachings.
I'd buy a book of all of your amazing presentations. Always brilliantly put together. Thank you so much for each and every video!!
Probably, I doubt she replaces something she despised with something worse.
I love your approach to your videos. Quickly have become one of my favorite channels of UA-cam. Much respect Generation Tech.
I'm not sure I can see Barriss surviving this series if she isn't just the perfect Inquisitor. We know the price they faced for failure and if Vader takes even a remotely personal stance against Barriss it's pretty much over.
Well spoken as always. It's nice to hear something truly insightful, especially these days. Refreshing🎉
Barriss will genuinely follow the Empire, then disagree with the Empire's goals/methods, and finally turn away from the empire to oppose them. It should be an interesting story arc. Barriss will play it off like she wasn't really following the Empire in the beginning but that will just be propaganda.
I think she'll die opposing the empire. Like to vader's face. Killed by him or by multiple inquisitors
@@cloudmaster182I don’t think so. I think she’ll escape and find a way to help the ppl in the galaxy under the empire.
I mean or Vader will just kill her but I feel like that’s a poor way to narratively end her story. Very anticlimactic idk.
6:31, It’s interesting to note that Legends specifically depicts Force Healing as a technique relatively normal Force-sensitives could learn, the exact opposite of how it is in the Disney Star Wars Era, where it takes particularly powerful or skilled Force-sensitives to be able to use it effectively, if at all, as it actually sacrifices their own health to heal others.
It seems they are keeping some elements of Barriss’ portrayal as a healer in the new miniseries, as she is described as one in later episodes where she defects from the Inquisitorius and shown to be suspiciously old with seemingly little passage of time, suggesting she is still capable of the technique, only the health draining aspect of its depiction in this new Disney era means it makes her older if she uses it significantly.
I suffer from CPTSD. When he says that ANYONE can go through trauma , literally. These people may be fake but the things they teach us isn’t. People go through these things and still have to find a way to live a “Good” Life. We all should be a bit more understanding , empathetic and sympathetic ❤
Brilliant take as usual Alan. Deepest thinker on SW-tube!
9:50 Also, didn't one of the twin sisters in their season 7 clone wars arc talk about a green skinned jedi (who I assume was Luminara) just saying to them "may the force be with you" after their home was destroyed and then leaving them instead of helping, which is part of the reason why they lost faith in the jedi?
I wonder if Vader will remember Bariss and eventually kill her for a failiure she will make (for what she did to Ahsoka).
Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if the Bariss arc ends with Vader force choking her and snaping her neck.
@@jiffypoo5029 that would be unceremonious. They'd probably make it into a cool fight scene and have him stab her or somethn
@@cloudmaster182 Yeah other than Qui Gon getting stab through the spine and touching the liver, everyone else lives through a stabbing.
The physics of lightsabers are tricky and need over nine paragraphs to explain. But in short the magnetic field that holds the plasma arc can be made strengthen for the saber be used as a brute force club or controlled burns.
2.) I have been a Star Wars fan since a child from the 1980's in all its forms. And had a lot of debates and arguments over the nature of the Force.
I am no Disney shrill, but I would just love for them to bring Revan back for season two and had Vader/Anakin say to her, " Lovely I get to stab you for a third time. You survive the first stabbing in the temple for my actions were guided by the will of the force. It seems it is the will of the force for you to suffer."
How can take of the forest if don't pay attention to the trees
I’m curious given to the Rise of the Red Blades they promoted Padawans to Knights almost immediately, why wasn’t Barriss not promoted after Attack of the Clones? Especially she’s one of those survivors?
May the force be with you Allen
I kinda hope not. It’s expected that Barriss will turn back to the light, so I want her to do the unexpected and become a seething ball of dark side misery.
Tales of the Jedi had one Jedi that went darkside and one Jedi that stayed lightside probably something similar will happen here.
Perhaps it's not the unexpected outcome that's the most interresting about a story, but how it happenes in unexpected ways
I hope we see luminara or a mention of her in tales of the empire and Barriss’s reaction to that
your analysis is both hilarious and prescient
Thanks Alan👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
I also imagine having a parasite take over your body and force you to fight your friend does a number on your psyche.
I know this is definitely never going to happen. I wish Barry and Asoka met again.
It definitely could tho, the bird inquisitor that bariss stand nexts to in the trailer fights ahsoka.
Im honestly just waiting to see what the Temple Guard who became the Grand Inquisitor will say to Bariss. Did her actions inspire him, or does he view her as a threat? Filoni is keeping us chomping at the bit and i cant wait to see the Star Wars EU under his full control.
Very Nice
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I feel bad for barris, she clearly has ptsd. She was put in a position she was not able to handle. She began to see the corruption of the Jedi and the republic and saw a need to change things. She however at that point had enough bad experience in battle to realize that peace was no longer possible. I think she wanted to get caught and probably hoped to be executed.
Damn, now I think that she would be probably perfect antagonist (at least on the begining) for a third Jedi game. After all, we can say that Cal Kestis, is a savior, just like Luke Skywalker. Bode, Dagan, Trilla, Merrin, all those people were trying to kill him on many ocasions, yet he always tried to save them, make them think. It would be great if we could see such thing with Bariss
I wouldn’t be surprised if Barriss ends up with the same end as Iskat Akaris aka the 13th sister but with out the romance involved maybe barriers will surprise me again .
IIRC from your worst Jedi ever video (not disagreeing) Luminara's people had a permanent lock on padawans of their own species. That was a mistake, and it seems like these set-asides undermined the Order as much as anything else. Also kind of sad that she externalized all her resentment of Luminara onto the Order as a whole; not that they didn't have it coming for a lack of support (Like many an abused child, she was likely told to heed the one doing the abuse), but it almost seems like she still couldn't denounce Luminara and so turned against everyone, even when an accidental (at first) casualty was her only real friend. That scene outside the weapons factory comes off like a serious version of that TV scientist on Dinosaurs, who always stepped away while 'Timmy' conducted the insane experiment.
I think she is gonna realize that they are evil and get caught showing compassion to someone and vader will kill her for being weak 😮
Given that by the time of Star Wars Rebels Bariss Offee was dead and on ice (figurative, if not literally!), I don't think Bariss would join the Empire (alive). Plus, think about how Darth Vader would react to see her...
I watched this entire video and survived. My name is Tech and my allegiance is Generation Allan.
I think Vader is going to kill her himself, maybe show us why the Grand Inquisitor was so scared of Vader.
Yeah, I can imagine Bariss would attack Vader and that's how her story ends, with a force choke and a neck snap.
I have a bad feeling Barriss won't survive her anthology
While I don’t believe Luminara was a terrible Jedi master, I do believe she didn’t believe in her padawan as a person who needed her more as another person than as a teacher. I also believe Barris sadly never let this become more than festering hatred rather than to seek more beyond and to try and rectify or help herself.
People would think Vader will have sheer hatred for Bariss and want to kill her, but I think the opposite, he may see himself in her and try to make her his dark apprentice, his own dark side version of Ashoka, trying to parallel his life as Anakin, maybe before he finds or near the time he finds Galen Marek if he is canon tho, but who knows tbh
well, we don't see her in Rebels, and it would've been perfect for her to hunt down and confront Ahsoka. The fact she wasn't in Rebels suggests she's dead by that point, and I think it was likely Vader who killed her
another example of lummuira (i know i butchered her name) the martez sisters parents murder lummuira went after ziro the hutt they're parents ending up getting murdered and lummuira went up to them and said "the force will be with you" just an awful jedi all round their parents just died
We do not see Barris in rebels or fallen order. I think Vader will kill her or send her on a suicide mission.
I know many people want her dead and is the most likely ending, but while logical I just can't find it satisfing its weird, we've been waiting 11 years to know her fate, expecting any opportunity. She was originally supposed to die at her confession, she didn't appear in rebels, the character went straight to the fridge, all because Filoni wanted to do something with her. So if in the end all that wait is just to see how she becomes an inquisitor and dies at the hands of Vader while doing absolutely nothing that just sucks, thats something they could've told in a one-shot comic at least 7 years ago
If Bariss recognizes Vader she might even start to think due her actions and Ahsoka leaving she indirectly contributed to Anakin becoming Vader since Ahsoka wasn't there to stop him and those negative emotions are great for the Sith to turn her. Other option maybe is she hates what Anakin has become and extents her believe that Asoka isn't any better. Both variants seem cool but knowing Disney... well let's say it will likely just be a disappointment.
There is no way Vader is going to be able to meet Barriss and not have a strong reaction. Might be best The Inquisition never let the two meet.
What about Master Luminara and the Martez sisters parents???
Secondary question: Why was Barriss in prison, when they seemed set to execute Ahsoka based on less evidence? This is a trope I cannot stand in fiction overall; The protagonist is unjustly convicted, and seems set to get the worst fate available - even the light anime 'Peach Girl' had this - but when the liar and schemer and real criminal is exposed, suddenly we have procedure and rights being heeded. Edit: It just struck me why this happened: Luminara. Somehow, even matters concerning punishment of their species are part of this set-aside. She advocated for prison for her padawan instead of execution. That almost has to be it.
Man I dont want them to bring Barris back just to kill her off
I love Barris and I hope she escapes from the inquisitors and lives on her own and eventually meets Ahsoka in live action series
Thoughts?
@@Aaron-fb6mb i dont think she died
if Sabine survived then so would Barriss
she is a healer after all
Luminara was a sociopath who never cared about Barriss and if there’s a reason she fell to the dark side that’s it. She would have let her die on Geonosis! If not for Anakin she would have
Wait a sec. Did Anakins limbs turn to ash on Mustafar? Could the cauterization points be cleaned and reattached?
Offee's story is so much better in the Legends Medstar duology by Michael Reaves and Steve Perry.
A squad of Republic Commandos could have easily taken down that droid foundry in half the time that the padawans did.
Question for a video: How does the Jedi council in Episode 1 know of the Rule of 2? They haven't seen a Sith since the books of Darth Bane.
Has anyone else just assumed that Barriss was the 6th sister?
Nice new haircut btw. =P
If your apart of Inquistor training Your already in the empire then arent the boy scouts there a hyper secret emperor controlled death squad
Bariss did not become a mad bomber, she died on felucia a hero.
At least, thats what I think.
Still impressed at how the medstar books remain gold in comparison to what tcw and dave filoni have done to luminara and bariss Offee.
As for Santa Claus stealing kids around Xmas times? Well, it depends on what version of him you're speaking of.
You can always depend on the Jedi 100% stealing children, tho.
The favourite green lady of Star Wars.
I'm going to be honest, I'm surprised in the Empire that Barriss Offee wasn't being celebrated as a martyr, and a hero to the Empire. She bombed the Jedi Temple, which could be seen as striking the Jedi preemptively before their betrayal. After all, if the Empire has shown, it doesn't give a damn about civilian casualties, or collateral damage, but they can never resist the chance to give the average Imperial Citizen an icon to cover up the obvious rot, because no one can resist a hero.
She will likely face off against Ashoka....
I don't know, it's not uncommon for Jedi who join the Inquisitorius to become numb to the suffering of others or even relish in that suffering. Especially due to the constant infighting and power plays that happen within the organization.
She could just as easily wined-up dead at the hands of a fellow Inquisitor seeking to further their status as being killed by Vader for failure. Hell Iskat Akaris (13th Sister) nearly died twice at the hands of a fellow Inquisitor; one was the 7th Sister and the other was Tualon.
Has Luminara's 'Force Ghost' leading them to her body ever been explained? 😬
I think they had been other well published jedi falling during the clone war's.
That Tale of the Empire is not the Tale of Bariss Offee.
It is the tale of the Seventh Sister.
First here haha, does Kal Skirata exist in Canon?
You weren’t first.
I wish vod
Wow
Did anyone else hear kanan wanted luminara to ezra and just went fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
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The Sith are responsible for the war, but who's responsible for the Sith? Aren't they an offshoot of the Jedi that objected to how controlling Jedi order is in their lives?
Luminara and Kiadi Mundi were some of the WORST of that final era of the Jedi Order
In this series Barriss is trained, then she gets sent after Ahsoka and shows up in the live action show.
When's this coming out about Barris?
Last Sunday
She should. Long live the Empire!
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Boeing AND Taytay?!!?😂😂
Considering what Vader dud to Fox in the comics, hes probably going to destroy Barris
Wait, if the Inquisitors were able to use normal Sith lightsabers, why didn't they just use them instead of those weak spinning lightsabers?
Oh yeah, Disney.
It's not like Barriss Offee have a choice either way.
Please link the video you discuss trauma in the comments
With all these empire era shows I thinking about old these characters would be in the Live Action 10ABY Mando era.
Omega, Cal and Merrin should be in their 30s. Bariss should be mid 40's like Ahsoka. Asajj and Quinlan should be around 50.
Personally, I don't see Barriss joining the Inquisitorius that long. Yes we know she's capable of murder or killing/framing Jedi for heinous actions. But condoning their widespread murder across the galaxy and letting ordinary citizens be oppressed? That feels like a bridge too far- the whole point of Barriss' choices was that she didn't like seeing the Jedi become soldiers.