Hawkeye Pierce: "war is war and hell is hell, and of the two, war is worse." Father Mulcahy: "why do you say that Hawkeye?" H.P: "who goes to hell father?" F.M: "sinners I believe" H.P: "right. There are no innocent bystanders in hell."
I mean considering how stupid some “sins” are there definitely would be a lot of innocent people there if it was a real place (but I get the meaning of the quote anyways)
@@hekkrjs2698 that omits the rest of the quote H.P: “Exactly. There are no innocent bystanders in Hell. War is chock full of them - little kids, cripples, old ladies. In fact, except for some of the brass, almost everybody involved is an innocent bystander.”
"Expended." That word perfectly encapsulates the real tragedy of war. Not lost. Not killed. Expended. A person who was born, who grew, who lived, and whose death is treated like a spent round of ammunition or an empty battery.
Sadly though if the first DS hadn't been destroyed, there is nothing that would lead me to believe that trillions wouldn't have died in the hands of Tarkin.
Some planets would be destroyed, but after that no one else would rebel, at least in an organized group the size of the rebellion. The Empire would have won, and the Emperor would be right "we shall have peace".
Absolutely- while the Tarkin doctrine seems straightforward, how does one really determine whether the rebellion has been truly crushed? Given the guerilla tactics, that itself seems difficult, and this would probably lead Tarkin to blow up even more planets. And honestly, at some point, if he blows up too many planets, there's a tipping point where it's safer to join the rebellion and hopefully stop the genocidal maniac and his planet destroying battle station.
@@psilver8057 who says it would stop at just a few planets, its a foolish thing in the first place. It's like tarkin does not even comprehend how psychology works. And it's utterly wasteful too, destroying a planet for 1 rebel cell, it's diminishing returns at best and scorched earth at worst, its utterly desperate. And it's clearly breaks an old addage: "If they fear you to little, they will attack. If they fear you too much, then they will attack with everything they got." I think it's prophetic and clearly defines the death star.
There are some neat new elements in NuStar Wars. But only a few. Otherwise I'd rather just imagine that the EU stopped after the Thrawn Trilogy and affiliates. And that Disney Canon never existed.
I’ve seen other Star Wars channels report that there was only 500,000 people on the original Death Star at the time it was destroyed and 2 million was the total capacity
Alan Alan Alan, the Death Star was to be kept secret from the Public and if it was made out public the whole Galaxy would've Rebelled more against the Empire if it was found out what the Station was used for, so if you add civilians to the Death Star the whole station and it's mission would've been compromised.
Would be interesting, however, I would prefer the opposite. Though, an eventual twist, like what happened to Darth Vader at his end would be fine. I would rather watch someone becoming dehumanized to the furthest extreme. Perhaps show the human side first as mistakes; giving into empathy and mercy until it’s been noted for punishment. The redemption would be committing the ultimate evils possible in the Empire’s name. This proposed show can be about how far into die-hard Imperial ideology someone initially copes with; surrendering all humanity, from lighthearted childhood memories down to the birth-name, before the Empire without question. This character is TK-… “More Machine Than Man”
You never really think about something like this You just think that stormtroopers are the bad guys when they're just people from across the galaxy and all the stormtroopers that die during all of the star wars series
I do feel bad for the deaths on the Death Star, but can’t have as sympathy since that station did wipe out almost 2 billion lives when they blew up Alderaan.
Not surprising. I knew for a fact that most of the Imperial military were brainwashed and be blinded by the fact that one man had the power to corrupt the population thinking that "Hey, I'm good. They're evil." I kinda do feel a bit of sentiment as a "501st Legion" member...why so many of my own brothers had to perish for one man's ideology... I'm more leaning toward Gilad Paelleon, an Old Republic and an Imperial commander, who did not only fought against the enemy; but, stayed true to his duty. No political nor religion strings attached. Also much like Maximus Decimus Meridius... perhaps Nathan Algren. _"My name is Maximus Decimus Meridius. Commander of the Armies of the North. General of the Felix Legions. Loyal servant to the true emperor, Marcus Aurelius. Father to a murdered son, husband to a murdered wife and I will have my vengeance, in this life or the next."_ *- Maximus to Commedus, Gladiator* _And so the days of the Samurai had ended. Nations, like men, it is sometimes said, have their own destiny. As for the American Captain, no one knows what became of him. Some say that he died of his wounds. Others, that he returned to his own country. But I like to think he may have at last found some small measure of peace, that we all seek, and few of us ever find._ - Simon Graham about Nathan Algren, The Last Samurai
We hear shots being fired on DS2 when Luke was pulling Vader as it was about to blow. As far as we know, there were no rebels on the station, aside from Lando who was blowing it up. That can only mean that in all the panic, the imperials were killing each other to get the chance to get of the station before it is destroyed.
@@cornblaster7003 It could be also that the corvette suffered a similar fate to the executor super battle cruiser. With debris from the battle raging on pelting the gravitational dominant Death Star with so.
@acid most likely not if they kill the self they would likely feel more pain but if the Death Star blows they wouldn’t know it was coming and be instantly disintegrated
Listening to Imperial ship names always makes me wonder if any Imps in the navy had an "Are we the baddies?" moment. "Persecutor", "Devastator", "Ravager", etc...
Sounds like a "Band of Brothers" flavored mini series. For one or BOTH sides... An probably will never happen unless a bunch of fans get together and make one
I would honestly love to see how Lothal turned out, in the aftermath of the battle. I wonder if it became like a base of operations for the rebels, or did they keep Lothal neutral after the fact, so that the Empire wouldn't be encouraged to strike there again?
Chances are, due to mass destruction and indiscriminate bombing they would become just another back water world mostly ignored by the galaxy at large. I really doubt if the new republic would push for legislation to reconstruct outer rim worlds and their is mostly a power vacuum there as both the imperials and rebel leaders are basically gone. It's ripe to become another criminal lair.
If your entire garrison on a planet was destroyed along with an entire fleet of ISD's commanded by the best tactician in the entire Empire, would you send another attack?
Very impressive. Now do one for the Republic during Clone Wars. The Battle of Hypori was probably the Republic’s greatest defeat in either the canon or legends timelines. 99% casualties!
I'm honestly getting a lot of WWI or WWII vibes in The Mimban Campaign. The battle looks so cinematic in the Solo movie, probably one of the best moments of the movie. I also really love the realistic appearance of the armor the Imperials were wearing in that battle.
Han solo wasn't "pressed into service" he volunteered for military service and subsequently was derelect from duty and went awol for cowardice. Leaving his brothers and sisters on the battlefield when they needed him most. See Solo:A Star Wars Story.
"AWOL for cowardice". Correction, he was falsely accused of treason. And he didn't want to leave out of cowardice, he was trying to get back to his home planet for stupid plot reasons. (Yeah, I really hated the whole romance sub plot.)
Anyone else find it ironic that the end of the 501st would come in a battle where their opponents were in part being commanded by Captain Rex, the original commander of the 501st?
As an imperial fan (not a die hard one, just like them) this deeply saddens me because just because they were shown as evil doesn't mean there weren't innocent ones among them...
@@kodybanks9375 I agree. Plus alot of people think of the entire empire as Evil yet they aren't all Evil, only the higher ups are truly evil. I know this doesn't apply to the Republic or what you were talking about but it's still a point that has to be made
It's guilt by association, yes many of them are not evil but Palpatine and the likes of tarkin are the ones pulling the levers. They are going to follow orders mostly to a fault unless something severe happens, like alderan, yavin, endor, and cinder. In an ideal galaxy, only the real baddies would be annihilated and the innocent spared, but that's not how evil works, or scum if you don't believe in good or evil. Evil doesn't care at, in fact is even delighted from others suffering in their name and is more than happy to drag everyone within reach to their endgame. It's cruelly elegant in design to force their opponents to stoop as near to their level as possible, to have as much or arguably more blood in their hands in some cases to beat them.
Operation Cinder was ostensibly to punish the Imperials for not protecting Palpatine. But I can't help but wonder if it's REAL purpose was to extinguish enough lifeforce to allow Palpatine to pull a Vitiate/Valkorian/Tenebrae and resurrect himself in another body.
Unlikely. That whole process is an entire ritual and would require a fair bit of setup. Plus, Palpatine had other, more efficient, and easier ways of cheating death on standby.
What's kinda insane to me, is think about how many planets have been just wiped out in the ~7000 years of history that the Jedi and Sith have been at war. Between the Death Star, , Malachor V, Darth Nihilus, Vitiate's Rituals, Bane's thought bomb, and just all the other stuff. There's 104 articles on destroyed planets in both legends and canon on wookiepedia. There's gonna be like 5 habitable planets in the whole galaxy given another 7000 years. And to think, it all could have been avoided if the Jedi weren't self-righteous dickheads.
The Infinite Empire controlled 500 planets and that was considered small Not to mention Telos IV was just fine after a couple of years Also it seems Malachor as a whole is just kinda fucked, there has not been one malachor that was normal, the 3 we know are all fucked
I honestly want a star wars strategy game that gives a proper scale of the battles and lenght of the the empire era and stuff like it. Mods for star wars empire at war forces of corruption do a decent job of it but they can only do so much with it sadly...
When I first watched Star Wars, I thought the Empire had been around for hundreds of years up until Yavin. I was surprised when it was just 19 years old up till then.
I would like some content from Disney showing what a galaxy that just went through 40 years of war would be like. Post empire would be a hard scrabble existence for everyone except for the most well off.
Even golden age empire would be rough as the everyday person, especially if your not human. You are either in the military, the military industrial complex, a wage slave, or a criminal 9 out of 10. And theirs probably more reasons that it's just as bad or worse.
Frankly, even the well off would be dying in droves. With the complete chaos of societal breakdown, there would no longer be a "well off." On the other hand, it would be a chance for those with nothing to lose to possibly rise up the ranks.
After listening to veterans describe their experiences with being involved in mass casualty events such as the fire bombing of Tokyo, how Luke Skywalker came to terms with the destruction of the Death Star would make a great story line particularly since he was in tune with the Force by that time. He seemed far more broken losing Kylo Ren to the Dark Side, which in itself could maybe be tied to those experiences. The way you describe it here not everyone on that Death Star was a ruthless Imperial killing machine; although the elites among those on board would have been in the upper ranks of the most ruthless and devout in the Imperial military I cannot help but think someone on board would have been questioning their faith in the Emperor by the destruction of Alderaan. It's a shame how so many of our celebrated heroes need to have psychopathic traits.
Luke Skywalker was at most apathetic. He could barely contain himself from not killing stormtroopers on sight on undercover missions. I think he grows as a person later on, but by then, he is so desentised to death that it is hard to tell.
Love how you use the same music for the first segment that Star Wars Theory uses for his outros. Makes everything interconnect. Someday, I hope for you guys to do a collab. Stay safe.
I'd like to actually see a star *wars* movie, with very little if any involvement from force users. They're meant to be a rare thing, even at the start of the clone wars there's only 10,000 Jedi which really isn't a lot of people whilst the sith have the rule of two. Ofcourse you have inquisitors, but there's only like 15 of them. A gritty, brutal movie or series about an Infantryman fighting for the empire in a large scale campaign or even one about trying to fight insurgents in a backwater world would be really cool. Unlikely, but cool.
With everything going on in the world and how you have done personally about documenting said pain from war. I am surprised how well you handle these videos on the dark parts of a good distraction. Keep up the good work.
@@alphawolfgang173 yeah, "thousands of nobles" is just too small for a *galaxy wide* government/country, if star wars took place in one planet maybe that number make sense. This is one of Star Wars's weakness the sense of scale in numbers has always been too off and very reserve, a story that took place in a galaxy should've played the millions game more often because 1 million for them is basically the equivalent of 100 for us
Yet we see celebrations in the streets of Coruscant of all places when the Emperor dies. Prosperity doesn't equal peace if its accomplished by fear, and that prosperity was accomplished through the exploitation of alien majority worlds and outer rim systems, so those trillions of good lives were only even accomplished on the backs of countless others
Seeing those scenes from Solo makes me want a 100% on the ground dirty war movie set in Star Wars. Like just make the Battle of Jabiim a canon Star Wars movie.
I find it interesting that before the Ukrainian invasion, GT generally had a jokingly positive view on the Empire, often describing them as somewhat heroic peacekeepers who fought against rebel terrorists. But since the invasion, GT has been harshly critical of what the Empire was: a facist authoritarian state that ruled through force and often exploited certain groups to benefit their urban elites. Don't think GT has it in them to joke about that anymore when they've seen first hand the effects of what the Empire would have caused if they were real.
Before I saw what happened in Ukraine and Russia, I just thought, Galactic Empire was cool and civil, than I saw Russia, which look at it's size, it's affectively an Empire. Is now committing warcrimes, albeit the Donbass war had 8 years of Russians and Ukrainians both committing warcrimes. I didn't think or researched it until the aftermath. War is hell. I used to glorify it. Think it had honor. But war is for fools. And the brainwashed who thinks war has honor. The Galactic Empire is like the Russian Empire. A despotic mess. I don't hate the people. Just the political regime. And the Warhawk supporters.
@@noahtylerpritchett2682 War is hell, and I think with the widespread coverage and ease to find frontline footage of the 2022 invasion has opened the eyes of many people. Numbers on a page and written accounts are nothing compared to footage of kids crying, aftermath of massacres, and brutal combat videos.
@@halrold7369 you'd think we'd have open eyes from the war in Syria, Iraq, Yemen, Libya and Afghanistan. To my shock we're still surprised. Ever saw the movie injustice? Superman goes becomes a war stopping tyrant. But still stops war. Why can't we ever stop the wars? Hell why are we so racist as humans to judge people by government actions instead of individual character?
@@noahtylerpritchett2682 A lot of high quality footage from those conflicts come from ISIS, who obviously make the content favor them, and won't really be shown my mainstream media nor would it be shared by many people. Additionally, we've become extremely desensitized to the Middle East, and the fact is that those conflicts are very localized, and wouldn't have the potential to turn into a global war. Ukraine however...
I wrote this battle in my fan fic as the " Battle of Hells " and I did research and I feel the name fitted Mimban and many other battles were rough, I wrote the Mimban battle as a " Victory" in the Clone Wars era where they decided to leave the area for other trooper units to take over then Communications were jammed for 10 years so the victory withdrawl orders never reached the troopers still on mimban and they kept on fighting with Jedi padawans
needless to say I did what I could for research and these battles were brutal, only thing otherwise is I feel awful the Ukraine crisis hasn't ended peacefully yet I hope it will
"My friend here's trying to convince me that any independent contractors who were working on the uncompleted Death Star were innocent victims when it was destroyed by the Rebels."
There were also families, including children of those workers and other civilian personnel on board both the first and second Death Star. Some of those families may have been related to many imperial officers and security personnel, not including stormtroopers, and something tells me that after the fall of the Empire the New Republic covered up that information to avoid making the public think that such extreme measures would label many Rebel leaders as more cruel than the Empire was said to be.
Right? It's like if the Manhattan project were on an aircraft carrier or something. While there may have been in innocent families on board (which is sad), it was pretty clearly a superweapon. It literally just blew up a whole planet of innocent people, and was under the command of a genocidal maniac.
@@advena996 1. Tarkin wasn't a genocidal maniac, he was correct about what alderaan was up to. 2. It wasn't 'clearly a super weapon', how many windows on the death star have you actually seen? Do you honestly think that people in a freaking moon sized spaceship would have noticed it if they can't see or hear it?
@@droneant7602 Well if most people didn't know it was a super weapon, and also why didn't they just send some person and strap them with an explosive so that when they go to the bridge then they commit suicide? It would have saved lives on both sides considering the number of pilots the rebels lose. OR in the battle they simply could have blown up the bridge, or perhaps while rescuing the princess obi wan could have disabled the actual laser by... i dunno, cutting stuff up with his lightsaber? That would have set the empire back by years!
8:00 “When the Death Star was destroyed, about half of the 501st were still in the hanger getting to their ships. Of those that made it out, another third got caught in the explosion. I’ve fought with some of those men for over twenty years.”~Journal of the 501st
Honestly, taking out a 2-3 million souls with a few torpedoes is better than letting those 2-3 million souls obliterate planets worth billions of souls
Alan, have you ever wonder why there is no such thing as the Galactic Commonwealth in Star Wars? All I see are Republic, Empire and Confederacy. The Republic existed like three times already and the only reason the Republic survived for so long appeared to be because the Sith threaten the Republic time and time again, only to be defeated later by the Jedi and their Republic allies, which is what exactly strengthen the unity within the Republic and between the Republic itself and the Jedi Order as well.
I've thought of a Galactic Union, a communist state done right that has traits of the Republic & Empire & has a legion of grey Jedi or Jed'ii called Red Knights.
12:32 something I heard, Ackbar was originally supposed to cheer like the other mon calamari are but yeah his actor says something to the effect of I just watched 10,000 people lose their lives. Even enemies on the battlefield deserve respect.
Even in small conflicts, not everyone on the other side is a monster, some of them were left with n choice but to go. The Nazis had Romanian (I believe) prisoners under their command that had to fight with them or die.
True, they had many conscripts from the countries they'd occupied, many of whom died fighting the allies cause they had no other choice, I mean hell they even show it in Saving Private Ryan when two Wermacht soldiers attempt to surrender to the American's, they we're Czech if memory serves correctly, and they were gunned down cause they American couldn't understand them and thought they were Nazis. A brutal but accurate depiction of that sort of thing
As a big imperial fan i can recognise that palpatine was batshit insane and evil but only something like 0.1 % of the rest of the empire was actually evil , a vast majority of imperials that dies to the rebels/new republic were actually kind , nice and hard working people who had life pretty good it was only really the moffs who were genuinely bad people
Very disapointed in this video... when talking about the people who got dragged in to the Empire... WHERE WAS THE CLIP OF MIGS MAYFIELD!!! Just saying.
Hawkeye Pierce: "war is war and hell is hell, and of the two, war is worse."
Father Mulcahy: "why do you say that Hawkeye?"
H.P: "who goes to hell father?"
F.M: "sinners I believe"
H.P: "right. There are no innocent bystanders in hell."
I mean considering how stupid some “sins” are there definitely would be a lot of innocent people there if it was a real place (but I get the meaning of the quote anyways)
One of my favorite lines from my favorite piece of fiction of all time
You just summed up the reason why I love M*A*S*H. A masterpiece of a series.
Wouldn’t the quote make more sense if it said „[t]here are no innocent bystanders in war“. Either way, great quote!
@@hekkrjs2698 that omits the rest of the quote
H.P: “Exactly. There are no innocent bystanders in Hell. War is chock full of them - little kids, cripples, old ladies. In fact, except for some of the brass, almost everybody involved is an innocent bystander.”
"Expended." That word perfectly encapsulates the real tragedy of war. Not lost. Not killed. Expended. A person who was born, who grew, who lived, and whose death is treated like a spent round of ammunition or an empty battery.
Sadly though if the first DS hadn't been destroyed, there is nothing that would lead me to believe that trillions wouldn't have died in the hands of Tarkin.
This is true
Especially since they were already planning to use it on other worlds like Mon Cala after they would use it on Yavin 4.
Some planets would be destroyed, but after that no one else would rebel, at least in an organized group the size of the rebellion. The Empire would have won, and the Emperor would be right "we shall have peace".
Absolutely- while the Tarkin doctrine seems straightforward, how does one really determine whether the rebellion has been truly crushed? Given the guerilla tactics, that itself seems difficult, and this would probably lead Tarkin to blow up even more planets. And honestly, at some point, if he blows up too many planets, there's a tipping point where it's safer to join the rebellion and hopefully stop the genocidal maniac and his planet destroying battle station.
@@psilver8057 who says it would stop at just a few planets, its a foolish thing in the first place. It's like tarkin does not even comprehend how psychology works. And it's utterly wasteful too, destroying a planet for 1 rebel cell, it's diminishing returns at best and scorched earth at worst, its utterly desperate. And it's clearly breaks an old addage:
"If they fear you to little, they will attack. If they fear you too much, then they will attack with everything they got."
I think it's prophetic and clearly defines the death star.
That intro about war was actually incredibly insightful
Imagine being at those battles
Battle of miban: "up and over, lads!"
There are some neat new elements in NuStar Wars. But only a few. Otherwise I'd rather just imagine that the EU stopped after the Thrawn Trilogy and affiliates. And that Disney Canon never existed.
Seriously Alan, you are like the Ken Burns of Star Wars.
Wonder what's with the anti-war and anti-empire themes as of late? What happened to glory and conquest
@Peters6221 And Mark Hamill recently made a major donation towards Ukraine. There was a post saying, “May the force be with you,” in Ukrainian too.
I love generation tech, you're content is amazing.
Great vid GenTech! Please do more on this topic.
I’ve seen other Star Wars channels report that there was only 500,000 people on the original Death Star at the time it was destroyed and 2 million was the total capacity
I loved that Allen says "delicious pancakes" but shows corn. Must be a dolphin thing.
Star wars a lot of epic battles
@generationtech ... what is that opening speech from? Did you write it? It's very eloquent and beautifully put.
Now do this with legends
Only here you can find a guy that is capable of making the most powerful and touching speech then switch to talking about killing dolphins
Alan Alan Alan, the Death Star was to be kept secret from the Public and if it was made out public the whole Galaxy would've Rebelled more against the Empire if it was found out what the Station was used for, so if you add civilians to the Death Star the whole station and it's mission would've been compromised.
I would love a movie or even better, a game, centered around the battle of Jakku.
BAHAHA!.. HEY ALAN... IS THAT DOLPHIN-FREE PORPISE?... LMMFAO!
I would love a show that humanized stormtroopers and other imperials just like how the clone wars humanized the clones
Would be interesting, however, I would prefer the opposite. Though, an eventual twist, like what happened to Darth Vader at his end would be fine.
I would rather watch someone becoming dehumanized to the furthest extreme. Perhaps show the human side first as mistakes; giving into empathy and mercy until it’s been noted for punishment. The redemption would be committing the ultimate evils possible in the Empire’s name.
This proposed show can be about how far into die-hard Imperial ideology someone initially copes with; surrendering all humanity, from lighthearted childhood memories down to the birth-name, before the Empire without question. This character is TK-…
“More Machine Than Man”
Could you do a deep dive into space whales? Cause they shouldn't be able to just shred star destroyers like they're paper...
War. War never changes
Have you ever saw that scene in solo?
What was the song called during the minbam campaign?
Something about Galactic Iwo Jima in the thumbnail made me click this.
You never really think about something like this
You just think that stormtroopers are the bad guys when they're just people from across the galaxy and all the stormtroopers that die during all of the star wars series
The Death Star also had gravity
I do feel bad for the deaths on the Death Star, but can’t have as sympathy since that station did wipe out almost 2 billion lives when they blew up Alderaan.
You might want to edit the thumbnail a bit. You missed a "T" out of the word battle.
Allen, you move me brother.
MTFBWY
What's the first song?
🤣When the separatist council was “dissolved” 🤣
Cornfields and a blue sky. i saw what you did there
Wrong place at the wrong time! Happens to good people and bad people all the time
"Allen"The United States is sideing with the dolphin's
Not surprising. I knew for a fact that most of the Imperial military were brainwashed and be blinded by the fact that one man had the power to corrupt the population thinking that "Hey, I'm good. They're evil." I kinda do feel a bit of sentiment as a "501st Legion" member...why so many of my own brothers had to perish for one man's ideology...
I'm more leaning toward Gilad Paelleon, an Old Republic and an Imperial commander, who did not only fought against the enemy; but, stayed true to his duty. No political nor religion strings attached. Also much like Maximus Decimus Meridius... perhaps Nathan Algren.
_"My name is Maximus Decimus Meridius. Commander of the Armies of the North. General of the Felix Legions. Loyal servant to the true emperor, Marcus Aurelius. Father to a murdered son, husband to a murdered wife and I will have my vengeance, in this life or the next."_ *- Maximus to Commedus, Gladiator*
_And so the days of the Samurai had ended. Nations, like men, it is sometimes said, have their own destiny. As for the American Captain, no one knows what became of him. Some say that he died of his wounds. Others, that he returned to his own country. But I like to think he may have at last found some small measure of peace, that we all seek, and few of us ever find._
- Simon Graham about Nathan Algren, The Last Samurai
Wait isn’t the Death Star just a big lightsaber
That is a gross oversimplification
@@Gingerboi2010 I know
In war .. no one truly wins.
You just lose the least...
Allen, me love you long time
We hear shots being fired on DS2 when Luke was pulling Vader as it was about to blow. As far as we know, there were no rebels on the station, aside from Lando who was blowing it up. That can only mean that in all the panic, the imperials were killing each other to get the chance to get of the station before it is destroyed.
If we take battlefront 2 maps as canon we see a crashed cr90 in a hanger but I think that’s the only indication that they were on the Death Star
@@cornblaster7003 It could be also that the corvette suffered a similar fate to the executor super battle cruiser. With debris from the battle raging on pelting the gravitational dominant Death Star with so.
It could also be imperials killing themselved so that they wouldnt have to live during the explosion.
@@acid4465 either way death would be instantaneous
@acid most likely not if they kill the self they would likely feel more pain but if the Death Star blows they wouldn’t know it was coming and be instantly disintegrated
Listening to Imperial ship names always makes me wonder if any Imps in the navy had an "Are we the baddies?" moment. "Persecutor", "Devastator", "Ravager", etc...
"Tyranny" was another blatant one.
Should’ve named one bureaucracy
@@GenerationTech ah yes the star destroyer Unrelenting Bureaucracy.
@@theblueneko677 I mean it would be the scariest.
Isn't very different from historical Royal Navy names. Very common names up until after wwii.
Wish we had a Star Wars movie that just shows how terrible war is like from the view of a Rebel or Stormtrooper
And pls make the stormtroopers actually aim
Sounds like a "Band of Brothers" flavored mini series. For one or BOTH sides... An probably will never happen unless a bunch of fans get together and make one
Theres a couple of youtube channels made that are like that
If anything an adaptation of Battlefront Twilight Company would be the best bet (no it has no relations to any of the Battlefront games).
B2 can aim better then human storm troopers
I would honestly love to see how Lothal turned out, in the aftermath of the battle. I wonder if it became like a base of operations for the rebels, or did they keep Lothal neutral after the fact, so that the Empire wouldn't be encouraged to strike there again?
IIRC the Empire wasn't able to reclaim Lothal.
I would just wan to see that city and its people destroyd in front of the "heroes"
Chances are, due to mass destruction and indiscriminate bombing they would become just another back water world mostly ignored by the galaxy at large. I really doubt if the new republic would push for legislation to reconstruct outer rim worlds and their is mostly a power vacuum there as both the imperials and rebel leaders are basically gone. It's ripe to become another criminal lair.
At the end of rebels Sabine says than the empire didn't strike back and as far as I know the planet was going great it seems like if it prospered
If your entire garrison on a planet was destroyed along with an entire fleet of ISD's commanded by the best tactician in the entire Empire, would you send another attack?
Very impressive. Now do one for the Republic during Clone Wars. The Battle of Hypori was probably the Republic’s greatest defeat in either the canon or legends timelines. 99% casualties!
What is that SSTs?
I'd say the Great Hyperspace War was worse than 99% cassulties.
And the battle of sarrish
I'm honestly getting a lot of WWI or WWII vibes in The Mimban Campaign. The battle looks so cinematic in the Solo movie, probably one of the best moments of the movie. I also really love the realistic appearance of the armor the Imperials were wearing in that battle.
The Mimban Campaign had walkers based on the artillery of WWII at-dt. And had similar vibes to older warfare
@@alextimm5445 That's another thing. I didn't mention it because it I honestly didn't know what it was called. But thanks for giving me the name.
Mah boy Alan always turning up with the quality content ✌🏻✌🏻
Han solo wasn't "pressed into service" he volunteered for military service and subsequently was derelect from duty and went awol for cowardice. Leaving his brothers and sisters on the battlefield when they needed him most.
See Solo:A Star Wars Story.
He was originally in the flight academy to be a pilot. He was forced into the infantry.
@@Eric-ch6gq because he disobeyed orders, plus he technically willingly went into the infantry when the officer reassigned him
@@Dire_Pack that's the reason he was pressed into the infantry. I meant that it was a forced transfer.
Yeah what these smart guys said…
"AWOL for cowardice". Correction, he was falsely accused of treason. And he didn't want to leave out of cowardice, he was trying to get back to his home planet for stupid plot reasons.
(Yeah, I really hated the whole romance sub plot.)
Anyone else find it ironic that the end of the 501st would come in a battle where their opponents were in part being commanded by Captain Rex, the original commander of the 501st?
As an imperial fan (not a die hard one, just like them) this deeply saddens me because just because they were shown as evil doesn't mean there weren't innocent ones among them...
I feel they had a lot of good people but had a rotten core, same as the Republic. I’m a huge clone fan.
@@kodybanks9375 I agree. Plus alot of people think of the entire empire as Evil yet they aren't all Evil, only the higher ups are truly evil.
I know this doesn't apply to the Republic or what you were talking about but it's still a point that has to be made
It's guilt by association, yes many of them are not evil but Palpatine and the likes of tarkin are the ones pulling the levers. They are going to follow orders mostly to a fault unless something severe happens, like alderan, yavin, endor, and cinder. In an ideal galaxy, only the real baddies would be annihilated and the innocent spared, but that's not how evil works, or scum if you don't believe in good or evil. Evil doesn't care at, in fact is even delighted from others suffering in their name and is more than happy to drag everyone within reach to their endgame. It's cruelly elegant in design to force their opponents to stoop as near to their level as possible, to have as much or arguably more blood in their hands in some cases to beat them.
Bro spelled battle WRONG
@@snowleopardbro2956 who here used the word battle?
Operation Cinder was ostensibly to punish the Imperials for not protecting Palpatine. But I can't help but wonder if it's REAL purpose was to extinguish enough lifeforce to allow Palpatine to pull a Vitiate/Valkorian/Tenebrae and resurrect himself in another body.
Unlikely. That whole process is an entire ritual and would require a fair bit of setup. Plus, Palpatine had other, more efficient, and easier ways of cheating death on standby.
@@andrewvisser8210*cough* Clones in the deep core *cough*
What's kinda insane to me, is think about how many planets have been just wiped out in the ~7000 years of history that the Jedi and Sith have been at war. Between the Death Star, , Malachor V, Darth Nihilus, Vitiate's Rituals, Bane's thought bomb, and just all the other stuff. There's 104 articles on destroyed planets in both legends and canon on wookiepedia. There's gonna be like 5 habitable planets in the whole galaxy given another 7000 years.
And to think, it all could have been avoided if the Jedi weren't self-righteous dickheads.
Or just execute the dark jedi instead of exiling them to Koriban.
@@taycarroll1124 there would be no dark Jedi if the Jedi weren't self-righteous dickheads
The Infinite Empire controlled 500 planets and that was considered small
Not to mention Telos IV was just fine after a couple of years
Also it seems Malachor as a whole is just kinda fucked, there has not been one malachor that was normal, the 3 we know are all fucked
probably the most casualty laden event was when the Vong showed up
I honestly want a star wars strategy game that gives a proper scale of the battles and lenght of the the empire era and stuff like it. Mods for star wars empire at war forces of corruption do a decent job of it but they can only do so much with it sadly...
Ultimate epic battle simulator 2 will have a good engine for that
The Battle of Jakkut should be the focus of SW Squadrons 2.
Edit: we were gonna have a few CW episodes focused in Mimbaan
When I first watched Star Wars, I thought the Empire had been around for hundreds of years up until Yavin. I was surprised when it was just 19 years old up till then.
Before the prequels came to be I think it was intended for the Empire to have been around a long time.
@@Burning-Twilight interesting
@@Burning-Twilight In a galaxy far, far away.
Same. I also thought the Emperor was just inhumanly old (like 200+ years old) and not, like, what? in this 60s (?) based on the prequels
In the earliest Legends Expanded Universe novels, the authors mistakenly placed the Clone Wars around 40 to 50 years before the Galactic Civil War.
I would like some content from Disney showing what a galaxy that just went through 40 years of war would be like. Post empire would be a hard scrabble existence for everyone except for the most well off.
Even golden age empire would be rough as the everyday person, especially if your not human. You are either in the military, the military industrial complex, a wage slave, or a criminal 9 out of 10. And theirs probably more reasons that it's just as bad or worse.
Frankly, even the well off would be dying in droves. With the complete chaos of societal breakdown, there would no longer be a "well off." On the other hand, it would be a chance for those with nothing to lose to possibly rise up the ranks.
@@lolmeme69_ alderan was the definition of well off.......
....was.....
After listening to veterans describe their experiences with being involved in mass casualty events such as the fire bombing of Tokyo, how Luke Skywalker came to terms with the destruction of the Death Star would make a great story line particularly since he was in tune with the Force by that time. He seemed far more broken losing Kylo Ren to the Dark Side, which in itself could maybe be tied to those experiences. The way you describe it here not everyone on that Death Star was a ruthless Imperial killing machine; although the elites among those on board would have been in the upper ranks of the most ruthless and devout in the Imperial military I cannot help but think someone on board would have been questioning their faith in the Emperor by the destruction of Alderaan. It's a shame how so many of our celebrated heroes need to have psychopathic traits.
Luke Skywalker was at most apathetic. He could barely contain himself from not killing stormtroopers on sight on undercover missions. I think he grows as a person later on, but by then, he is so desentised to death that it is hard to tell.
@@tk-6967 Most of our heroes have psychopathic tendencies.
Love how you use the same music for the first segment that Star Wars Theory uses for his outros. Makes everything interconnect. Someday, I hope for you guys to do a collab. Stay safe.
I'd like to actually see a star *wars* movie, with very little if any involvement from force users. They're meant to be a rare thing, even at the start of the clone wars there's only 10,000 Jedi which really isn't a lot of people whilst the sith have the rule of two. Ofcourse you have inquisitors, but there's only like 15 of them. A gritty, brutal movie or series about an Infantryman fighting for the empire in a large scale campaign or even one about trying to fight insurgents in a backwater world would be really cool. Unlikely, but cool.
With everything going on in the world and how you have done personally about documenting said pain from war. I am surprised how well you handle these videos on the dark parts of a good distraction. Keep up the good work.
we hear about the bad things the empire did, but we never hear about the trillions of people living good lives because of the empire.
That’s because the only ones who lived good lives were the few thousand nobles
@@Historyandlegends789 actually it was trillions, maybe even quadrillions of people living in the core worlds having amazing quality of life.
@@alphawolfgang173 yeah, "thousands of nobles" is just too small for a *galaxy wide* government/country, if star wars took place in one planet maybe that number make sense. This is one of Star Wars's weakness the sense of scale in numbers has always been too off and very reserve, a story that took place in a galaxy should've played the millions game more often because 1 million for them is basically the equivalent of 100 for us
Yet we see celebrations in the streets of Coruscant of all places when the Emperor dies. Prosperity doesn't equal peace if its accomplished by fear, and that prosperity was accomplished through the exploitation of alien majority worlds and outer rim systems, so those trillions of good lives were only even accomplished on the backs of countless others
@@jeffreypeters2803 not my problem, lol
Wow & first 🥇, wish for new Earth🌎🌍 in Star Wars in the future. Or other largest casualties compare to real wars on Earth?
Seeing those scenes from Solo makes me want a 100% on the ground dirty war movie set in Star Wars. Like just make the Battle of Jabiim a canon Star Wars movie.
Can you do a rebel alliance timeline type of thing where you go through the ups and many downs of the organization and how it evovled over time?
Can we have a moment of silence for our brothers
I find it interesting that before the Ukrainian invasion, GT generally had a jokingly positive view on the Empire, often describing them as somewhat heroic peacekeepers who fought against rebel terrorists. But since the invasion, GT has been harshly critical of what the Empire was: a facist authoritarian state that ruled through force and often exploited certain groups to benefit their urban elites. Don't think GT has it in them to joke about that anymore when they've seen first hand the effects of what the Empire would have caused if they were real.
Before I saw what happened in Ukraine and Russia, I just thought, Galactic Empire was cool and civil, than I saw Russia, which look at it's size, it's affectively an Empire. Is now committing warcrimes, albeit the Donbass war had 8 years of Russians and Ukrainians both committing warcrimes. I didn't think or researched it until the aftermath.
War is hell. I used to glorify it. Think it had honor.
But war is for fools. And the brainwashed who thinks war has honor.
The Galactic Empire is like the Russian Empire. A despotic mess.
I don't hate the people. Just the political regime. And the Warhawk supporters.
@@noahtylerpritchett2682 War is hell, and I think with the widespread coverage and ease to find frontline footage of the 2022 invasion has opened the eyes of many people. Numbers on a page and written accounts are nothing compared to footage of kids crying, aftermath of massacres, and brutal combat videos.
@@halrold7369 you'd think we'd have open eyes from the war in Syria, Iraq, Yemen, Libya and Afghanistan. To my shock we're still surprised. Ever saw the movie injustice? Superman goes becomes a war stopping tyrant. But still stops war. Why can't we ever stop the wars?
Hell why are we so racist as humans to judge people by government actions instead of individual character?
@@noahtylerpritchett2682 A lot of high quality footage from those conflicts come from ISIS, who obviously make the content favor them, and won't really be shown my mainstream media nor would it be shared by many people. Additionally, we've become extremely desensitized to the Middle East, and the fact is that those conflicts are very localized, and wouldn't have the potential to turn into a global war. Ukraine however...
@@halrold7369 i just wish wars would end
I wrote this battle in my fan fic as the " Battle of Hells " and I did research and I feel the name fitted Mimban and many other battles were rough, I wrote the Mimban battle as a " Victory" in the Clone Wars era where they decided to leave the area for other trooper units to take over then Communications were jammed for 10 years so the victory withdrawl orders never reached the troopers still on mimban and they kept on fighting with Jedi padawans
Damn, that was deeper than I expected.
That speech was deep and amazing
The opening words were true spoken..I KINDA STARTED GETTING TEARY EYED...FUCK .
needless to say I did what I could for research and these battles were brutal, only thing otherwise is I feel awful the Ukraine crisis hasn't ended peacefully yet I hope it will
Please cover the Exosquad
Twilight Company was such a good book
Yea seriously an amazing addition to the lore
Nice content, and what about best moments for being a stormtrooper? Or best imperial battles?
"My friend here's trying to convince me that any independent contractors who were working on the uncompleted Death Star were innocent victims when it was destroyed by the Rebels."
There were also families, including children of those workers and other civilian personnel on board both the first and second Death Star. Some of those families may have been related to many imperial officers and security personnel, not including stormtroopers, and something tells me that after the fall of the Empire the New Republic covered up that information to avoid making the public think that such extreme measures would label many Rebel leaders as more cruel than the Empire was said to be.
Right? It's like if the Manhattan project were on an aircraft carrier or something. While there may have been in innocent families on board (which is sad), it was pretty clearly a superweapon. It literally just blew up a whole planet of innocent people, and was under the command of a genocidal maniac.
@@advena996 1. Tarkin wasn't a genocidal maniac, he was correct about what alderaan was up to.
2. It wasn't 'clearly a super weapon', how many windows on the death star have you actually seen? Do you honestly think that people in a freaking moon sized spaceship would have noticed it if they can't see or hear it?
@@droneant7602 Well if most people didn't know it was a super weapon, and also why didn't they just send some person and strap them with an explosive so that when they go to the bridge then they commit suicide? It would have saved lives on both sides considering the number of pilots the rebels lose. OR in the battle they simply could have blown up the bridge, or perhaps while rescuing the princess obi wan could have disabled the actual laser by... i dunno, cutting stuff up with his lightsaber? That would have set the empire back by years!
Such a story driven vibe with these vids lately. Keeps me coming back.
8:00 “When the Death Star was destroyed, about half of the 501st were still in the hanger getting to their ships. Of those that made it out, another third got caught in the explosion. I’ve fought with some of those men for over twenty years.”~Journal of the 501st
So many good loyal imperial died for the Empire.
Is Palpatine actually responsible for 3 galactic conflicts now since they made him the leader of the First Order as well?
First! Thanks so much for posting this!
The delicious pancakes comment, followed by the picture of the corn cob was golden!
Honestly, taking out a 2-3 million souls with a few torpedoes is better than letting those 2-3 million souls obliterate planets worth billions of souls
@Denise Bond True however the enemy side is being ruled by psychopaths and propaganda
Alan, have you ever wonder why there is no such thing as the Galactic Commonwealth in Star Wars? All I see are Republic, Empire and Confederacy. The Republic existed like three times already and the only reason the Republic survived for so long appeared to be because the Sith threaten the Republic time and time again, only to be defeated later by the Jedi and their Republic allies, which is what exactly strengthen the unity within the Republic and between the Republic itself and the Jedi Order as well.
I've thought of a Galactic Union, a communist state done right that has traits of the Republic & Empire & has a legion of grey Jedi or Jed'ii called Red Knights.
@@SlashinatorZ A communist state done right? Now that would be a true work of fiction.
Confederacy at its conception was just that. The CIS at conception are basically Tau in 40k because of how pure good they are.
Did you just absolutely destroy a dolphin with one slice damn nice swordsman skills
I wonder if you can make a list of 10 worst Rebel casualty battles?
Let's not forget that the Empire also committed genocide against other life forms.
xenocide then, not genocide
What's that scene from in the beginning of the video, with an imperial TIE interceptor pilot just giving up and crashing into the water?
Its a game trailer called star wars squadrons .
12:32 something I heard, Ackbar was originally supposed to cheer like the other mon calamari are but yeah his actor says something to the effect of I just watched 10,000 people lose their lives. Even enemies on the battlefield deserve respect.
Even in small conflicts, not everyone on the other side is a monster, some of them were left with n choice but to go. The Nazis had Romanian (I believe) prisoners under their command that had to fight with them or die.
True, they had many conscripts from the countries they'd occupied, many of whom died fighting the allies cause they had no other choice, I mean hell they even show it in Saving Private Ryan when two Wermacht soldiers attempt to surrender to the American's, they we're Czech if memory serves correctly, and they were gunned down cause they American couldn't understand them and thought they were Nazis. A brutal but accurate depiction of that sort of thing
I just recently learned what "going over the top" originally meant. It is still unbelievable
According to palleon the executor took half a million souls on board with it on its journey to a fiery grave
Long live the Empire!!!! Never Forgett Never Forgive DS-I and DS-II
You know. Rebels did a lot of things that seems out of character for Thrawn
As a big imperial fan i can recognise that palpatine was batshit insane and evil but only something like 0.1 % of the rest of the empire was actually evil , a vast majority of imperials that dies to the rebels/new republic were actually kind , nice and hard working people who had life pretty good it was only really the moffs who were genuinely bad people
Exactly. This proves what I've been saying since the first rebel attacks. Rebels are terrorists
Very disapointed in this video... when talking about the people who got dragged in to the Empire... WHERE WAS THE CLIP OF MIGS MAYFIELD!!! Just saying.
Also, Generation Tech is the only starwars videos I watch... hence I just subscribed.
I don’t like the ghost crew, they mess with the Chiss Ascendencys best defender…
The empire was right. Long live the empire.
The Liberation of Lothal was in 0BBY, not 10 BBY.
What's really sad is that the Rebels didn't even think of the possibly that there were innocents on the Death Star
Well yea rebellions lead to terrorism. And terrorists tend to not think about the consequences of their actions.
Hate rebels. That series made thrawn look like an idiot
Galactic conflict in the Star Wars galaxy is destructive on an unimaginably horrific level.
Like the Horus heresy