Just bought the same model today,a dn the first thing i will be doing is the upgrade to the fence. I knew its flaw when i bought it but for my budget it's the best machine. Your upgrade was one of the reasosns why I went for the Titan thicknesser/Planer rather than spending a whole lot more on two machines. thanks again for a great simple video. 😁
Hi Tomasz. Really impressed. This is old school jig work which you are demonstrating including the hands on jigsaw cutting. I've NEVER EVER tilted my jointer fence once. Face and side edge square spot on, that's all that's required A1+. This is no contraption your English language is A1+ better than mine. It's a winner, I'll second it because It works. Tony
Fantastic work! I'm setting up my first proper shed after owning the planer for years, and I noticed the flimsy fence. I'm going to give your solution a go on mine; thank you for the inspiration!
I have a dewalt d2700 machine and I still had to beef it up even with a more expensive tool. You have certainly given it a better fence for sure. If it give good square results then great job done.
I really enjoy seeing your ideas for tool improvements come to life. Although I cringed when I saw you jigsaw the slots - jigsaws make a real mess of melamine. Overall I’m glad to see you upgraded the tool to make it something you can use knowing implicitly that it is dialled in and 90 degrees to the table. Thanks for the video Thomasz. Cheers 👍😎🇦🇺
I don't really use this machine as a thicknesser so not had the need for that. However my Metabo thicknesser I use never had its rollers cleaned. But if you were using wood that potentially leaves a lot of residue then I would say that you would have to clean the rollers from time to time.
Thank you Tomasz for another interesting video. I have one of these machines although I have not used it yet (Waiting for warmer weather so I can use it outside) I'll bear this modification in mind though. Keep up the good work!
Hi Tomasz, Amazing how much thought and planning goes into an apparently simple project. Why didn't you route a groove on both pieces of the sliding base to ensure the fence would slide exactly square to the cutters. Mike
I would use aluminium C channel in that groove you made and either that white plastic you have as guide to ensure smooth motion inside the C channel., cause you know chipboard is...well it has got a chip in the name :). Now you can make that jointing tutorial :P
To be honest I used what I had nearest to my hand 😂but yes the plastic or even an aluminium t-track would be better. Hehe yes that video is on the list 👍
Hi Tomasz nice upgrade i was a bit consenred seeing you using chip board not sure how long those screws would hold in the edge of the board. Regards David
Yes time will tell. I did add a lot of them so hopefully it will hold. It's material that I can afford right now so unfortunately it will have to do for now.
I seem to be one of the few who's fence is perfectly square. It does annoy me that it's not adjustable front to back so that the blades wear evenly but I've started clamping an auxiliary fence onto the original one.
Thank you Tomasz. Another great video. Just brought myself the same model and am going to be doing this fence upgrade on mine as well. Was wondering how you managed to get the exact location of the screw holes on the back of the model to match up with the first section you attached? Thanks again.
Nice 1 again Thomaz but i have often wondererd if you got a straight edge & face and piece is smallish. Could you not flip it & do all four surfaces. I know things about going against grain but remember i only been at it for a few months.
Hi Tomasz. Thanks for this video. I desperately need a jointer. I'm using a sled with shims and hot glue. it's really slow and tedious. I would eventually upgrade the fence, but as long as I get the face flat, I can edge it on a table saw sled in a few minutes. I also have a Triton thicknesser, so I don't care about that on this machine. My ultimate question is, are you happy enough with the face planing? It's €220 here in Ireland, and the cheapest Charinwood is double that. Thanks again for posting this and for all your videos. Shane.
Let's put it that way, if you can afford the more expensive Charnwood then go for that. If you are looking for the cheapest jointer them the Titan will do. Am I happy with it... no but at this price range there is nothing better. However if I ware to buy a different jointer it would be a much larger machine with cast iron top. As at the point I can't see any reason to go for anything that's between the Titan and a cast iron top jointer. Hope that helps.
Thanks. I've been looking at just a jointer but can't see anything decent. Was looking at the Triton jointer, the sister of my thicknesser but it's upwards of €500 and just not in the budget at the moment. There are some jointers on Amazon, still at entry level but around €300. As long as I can mill one face of my board, then I can ignore the rest and sort it out separately. It sounds like this can be achieved. Just want to get away from the fussy sled. Thanks again for your time. Much appreciated.
Amazing Tomasz. I not only have the sawbench and miter saw that you do, but I recently bought myself this planer thicknesser as well. I haven't used it yet...but looks like I will be upgrading it before I do. I see you used melamine...is that a cost thing? Plywood is so damn expensive here in Scotland..is it the same in Poland? Keep up with the videos...you are an inspiration.
Hope it will serve you well. I don't think you can get a better jointer for that money. Yes the melamine boards is a cost thing. In my local DIY store I can get off cuts of these board for really cheap. Ply and any sheet materials and wood is mega expensive. Hence I'm not sure when I'll do my cabinet projects for my workshop. I just can't afford the materials.
Great video Tomasz, couple of questions though, did you put the locking nut back on for the table height and can the table still be used in thickness mode (thinking of the dust collection)
No I didn't I just used a bolt to secure it with a rubber washer. Mine wasn't working anyway. I just tighten both of the bolts that secure the table movement and the front table stays in place when I adjust it. You need to take off the fence to use the thicknesser mode. But that's simple enough, just undo the two star knobs and take the fence off. I don't use this machine in the thicknesser mode hence its not a problem for me.
Great solution to the poor fence. Does this still allow the dust extraction port to fit on the top when using thickness mode? It looks like it might block the screw morning hole?
To be fair I never use it as thicknesser. And yes it will be in the way, but you only need to undo the two star knobs to take the fence off and its not in the way then.
Hi Casual Diy, i just want to say that you had a good idea but a very bad choice of material (for many reasons). You should have build it with plywood, not melanine. If the choice was for a much slipery surface then youshould go for constrution plywood. Very stable and slipery also. Or just waxed the normal plywood. That's what i used in my on the lower part (thickner). Again a great video and sorry about my english.
@@CasualDIY i can't afford it too, so i recycle everything i can find. The size of the parts you built weren't that big. Don't be afraid/ashamed of looking around on the transport and logistics stores (even IKEA and Leroy Merlin). You would be surprised with what you can find and they throw away... just a hint, now it's up to you.
@@mikefreitas1331 hehe I do, got some chip boards from old furniture that my parents had, some from large good disposal. But it's almost always laminated chip board. Never came across plywood, sometimes pieces of wood.
Take snipe when you use the jointer? Snipe with a planer (thicknesser) yes but jointer🤔 maybe your blades are not level or the tables are not positioned correctly. I made a video on jointer basics, maybe there's some information that could be useful ?
@@CasualDIY This should not change the fence being 90 degrees to the table, but if the G clamp affected the adjustable table perhaps shiming that end of the fence would stabilise everything.
@@Iazzaboyce Bit of a hassle to do as I do change the depth of cut depending if I'm doing a face or side of the board. If you clamp to the front bed it will lift the back side of the fence and it's not gonna be stable. And in this case it all about precision.
@@Iazzaboyce well the fence needs to be long and if one end will have no support then you are running into potentially having some flex at the infeed side.
Hi Tomaz Great video. I have the same machine. Do you have any drawings available (even if written by hand on a piece of paper) that would assist me in making the same fence system. Don't mind if there's a fee...
Thank you, I don't actually but I could put something together for you over the weekend. Just drop me an email with a reminder please. casualdiyuk@gmail.com
I am trying to convince my wife to let me buy a planer/thicknesser but I have little space and little money. Would you recommend the Titan machine? Is it worth the money or do I wait for a better option?
@@CasualDIY yes think ill make new fence does flex alot mind , im new too planing obviously is there a nack or do i just push through with even pressure
I am convinced! NOT to get this tool! I might save some money cos it's cheap but I don't want to spend hours hacking a solution for something a surface planer should have already!
@@CasualDIY Yeah it's a bit sad. I think I'll save up my pennies and get the dedicated Triton surface planer. Of course that'd mean saving up even more for a separate lunchbox thicknesser, but I guess you gets what you pays for eh?
Very good idea for planer use. congratulations. see you later.
Thank you my friend 👍
Just bought the same model today,a dn the first thing i will be doing is the upgrade to the fence. I knew its flaw when i bought it but for my budget it's the best machine. Your upgrade was one of the reasosns why I went for the Titan thicknesser/Planer rather than spending a whole lot more on two machines. thanks again for a great simple video. 😁
Thank you for watching, hope it will serve you well 👍
Hi Tomasz. Really impressed. This is old school jig work which you are demonstrating including the hands on jigsaw cutting. I've NEVER EVER tilted my jointer fence once.
Face and side edge square spot on, that's all that's required A1+. This is no contraption your English language is A1+ better than mine. It's a winner, I'll second it because It works. Tony
Hehe thanks mate, but the jig saw (face palm) what a mess. Oh well next time I will know not to save time on thing like that 😂
Fantastic work! I'm setting up my first proper shed after owning the planer for years, and I noticed the flimsy fence. I'm going to give your solution a go on mine; thank you for the inspiration!
Glad that my video was some help👍
Hi, great video. Just purchased a titan and see that the fence is poor. I want an upgrade/ are plan’s available for your fence ?
I have a dewalt d2700 machine and I still had to beef it up even with a more expensive tool.
You have certainly given it a better fence for sure. If it give good square results then great job done.
Yes far better results for sure 👍
I really enjoy seeing your ideas for tool improvements come to life. Although I cringed when I saw you jigsaw the slots - jigsaws make a real mess of melamine. Overall I’m glad to see you upgraded the tool to make it something you can use knowing implicitly that it is dialled in and 90 degrees to the table. Thanks for the video Thomasz. Cheers 👍😎🇦🇺
Yes I did as well at the first pass of the jig saw (before use it seemed as such a good idea) 😂 but after the first pass there was no going back😂
Another great upgrade from you Tomasz 👍
Thank you kindly 👍
I have the same problem with mine and thinking of upgrading it now. Thanks Tomasz
Well I have to say it was worth upgrading. Still got plenty of rough sawn boards to sort out and this will make it so much easier.
Thanks Tomasz
I am looking to buy the titan model, and this will be a great help to me.
Thanks for watching, glad that my video was some help👍
Great video it’s exactly what I’ve been looking for to upgrade my Charnwood W588 8”x5” planer/thicknesser 👍
Thank you for watching 👍
Nice upgrade. The professional jointer cost fortune so we have improve what we got.
That is so true 👍
Nice one I’m off to get this planer next week so this will help. Cheerrs
Thanks👍hope it will serve you well
Hi. Great video. Some people say that the rollers need cleaning, have you had to do that yet and did you make a video? Thanks. Michael.
I don't really use this machine as a thicknesser so not had the need for that. However my Metabo thicknesser I use never had its rollers cleaned. But if you were using wood that potentially leaves a lot of residue then I would say that you would have to clean the rollers from time to time.
Thank you Tomasz for another interesting video. I have one of these machines although I have not used it yet (Waiting for warmer weather so I can use it outside) I'll bear this modification in mind though. Keep up the good work!
Thanks mate👍
Amasing work Tomasz
Thank you kindly
Nicely done
Thank you kindly
Many Thanks very rewarding...
Thank you for watching 👍
@@CasualDIY Tomasz have only just found your Chanel and will be watching more.....Thank You my friend..
@@malcolmpurser686 thank you kindly l, hope you will enjoy my videos 👍
@@CasualDIY I am sure I will..
I just bought the same machine. Was thinking about welding some box steel to it as a fence.
Well you need to be able to weld it perfectly, the heat could damage the machine tho...
Nice one! 👍
Thanks👍
Nice, this video got me to subscribe.
Welcome aboard 😁👍
Looks good 👍
Thanks mate
Hi Tomasz, Amazing how much thought and planning goes into an apparently simple project. Why didn't you route a groove on both pieces of the sliding base to ensure the fence would slide exactly square to the cutters. Mike
Well I thought one be enough and it seems that's the case. So far no issues 👍
I haven't started using mine yet. Maybe I should make a new fence before I do. All I've done so far is fix the dangerously useless push blocks.
Yes the push blocks are useless I have to say.
Fab job 👍🏼 where did you get the white flexi pipe on your drill press? Thanks
Just my local DIY store in plumbing section
😃👍🏼👍🏼
Great job, but would look better with edge banding.
I know, I've ran out but I'm sure I'll sort that out on my next visit at a DIY store👍
Or just screw a piece of straight timber to e original fence that way you can still tilt the fence.
Tomasz have you found that you do not need the locking tab/handle. Mine I feel when I lock it knocks my bed out of square
Sometimes I do, sometimes I don't. The locking knob on my machine is not working great so most times I'm not using it.
Another great video Tomasz. I’ll definitely be doing this to mine soon! Can I ask what is that counter sink pilot bit you were using?
Thanks.
Hmm sorry can't remember had it years.
I would use aluminium C channel in that groove you made and either that white plastic you have as guide to ensure smooth motion inside the C channel., cause you know chipboard is...well it has got a chip in the name :). Now you can make that jointing tutorial :P
To be honest I used what I had nearest to my hand 😂but yes the plastic or even an aluminium t-track would be better. Hehe yes that video is on the list 👍
Hi Tomasz nice upgrade i was a bit consenred seeing you using chip board not sure how long those screws would hold in the edge of the board. Regards David
Yes time will tell. I did add a lot of them so hopefully it will hold. It's material that I can afford right now so unfortunately it will have to do for now.
I seem to be one of the few who's fence is perfectly square. It does annoy me that it's not adjustable front to back so that the blades wear evenly but I've started clamping an auxiliary fence onto the original one.
Mine started flexing for some reason. I think it was just its time to be changed
Thank you Tomasz. Another great video. Just brought myself the same model and am going to be doing this fence upgrade on mine as well. Was wondering how you managed to get the exact location of the screw holes on the back of the model to match up with the first section you attached? Thanks again.
Measured 3 times, used the metal cable holders as template plus measured another two times 🤣👍
Aaah. Why didn't I think of that. Thanks. 👍
Nice 1 again Thomaz but i have often wondererd if you got a straight edge & face and piece is smallish. Could you not flip it & do all four surfaces. I know things about going against grain but remember i only been at it for a few months.
You can but the faces ( sides ) may not be parallel to each other. If that doesn't matter for your project then sure you can do that.
@@CasualDIY Many thanks
Hi Tomasz. Thanks for this video. I desperately need a jointer. I'm using a sled with shims and hot glue. it's really slow and tedious. I would eventually upgrade the fence, but as long as I get the face flat, I can edge it on a table saw sled in a few minutes. I also have a Triton thicknesser, so I don't care about that on this machine. My ultimate question is, are you happy enough with the face planing? It's €220 here in Ireland, and the cheapest Charinwood is double that. Thanks again for posting this and for all your videos. Shane.
Let's put it that way, if you can afford the more expensive Charnwood then go for that. If you are looking for the cheapest jointer them the Titan will do. Am I happy with it... no but at this price range there is nothing better. However if I ware to buy a different jointer it would be a much larger machine with cast iron top. As at the point I can't see any reason to go for anything that's between the Titan and a cast iron top jointer. Hope that helps.
Thanks. I've been looking at just a jointer but can't see anything decent. Was looking at the Triton jointer, the sister of my thicknesser but it's upwards of €500 and just not in the budget at the moment. There are some jointers on Amazon, still at entry level but around €300. As long as I can mill one face of my board, then I can ignore the rest and sort it out separately. It sounds like this can be achieved. Just want to get away from the fussy sled. Thanks again for your time. Much appreciated.
Amazing Tomasz. I not only have the sawbench and miter saw that you do, but I recently bought myself this planer thicknesser as well. I haven't used it yet...but looks like I will be upgrading it before I do. I see you used melamine...is that a cost thing? Plywood is so damn expensive here in Scotland..is it the same in Poland?
Keep up with the videos...you are an inspiration.
Hope it will serve you well. I don't think you can get a better jointer for that money. Yes the melamine boards is a cost thing. In my local DIY store I can get off cuts of these board for really cheap. Ply and any sheet materials and wood is mega expensive. Hence I'm not sure when I'll do my cabinet projects for my workshop. I just can't afford the materials.
I think the lower friction of sliding against the melamine will help too. Ply would need to be waxed to keep it sliding smoothly.
@@paulwestlake4278 that's true
Great video Tomasz, couple of questions though, did you put the locking nut back on for the table height and can the table still be used in thickness mode (thinking of the dust collection)
No I didn't I just used a bolt to secure it with a rubber washer. Mine wasn't working anyway. I just tighten both of the bolts that secure the table movement and the front table stays in place when I adjust it. You need to take off the fence to use the thicknesser mode. But that's simple enough, just undo the two star knobs and take the fence off. I don't use this machine in the thicknesser mode hence its not a problem for me.
@@CasualDIY Thanks for that, (just in the garage now making a start👍)
Great solution to the poor fence. Does this still allow the dust extraction port to fit on the top when using thickness mode? It looks like it might block the screw morning hole?
To be fair I never use it as thicknesser. And yes it will be in the way, but you only need to undo the two star knobs to take the fence off and its not in the way then.
@@CasualDIY thanks. I need to improve the fence on mine. Your solution looks great
Hi Casual Diy, i just want to say that you had a good idea but a very bad choice of material (for many reasons). You should have build it with plywood, not melanine. If the choice was for a much slipery surface then youshould go for constrution plywood. Very stable and slipery also. Or just waxed the normal plywood. That's what i used in my on the lower part (thickner). Again a great video and sorry about my english.
Hi, yes I would have gone for plywood I just can't afford it 🤣
@@CasualDIY i can't afford it too, so i recycle everything i can find. The size of the parts you built weren't that big. Don't be afraid/ashamed of looking around on the transport and logistics stores (even IKEA and Leroy Merlin). You would be surprised with what you can find and they throw away... just a hint, now it's up to you.
@@mikefreitas1331 hehe I do, got some chip boards from old furniture that my parents had, some from large good disposal. But it's almost always laminated chip board. Never came across plywood, sometimes pieces of wood.
Hi Thomas, I like your fence. I too have this jointer/planer but get snipe when I use the jointer. Is there anything I can do to stop this?
Take snipe when you use the jointer? Snipe with a planer (thicknesser) yes but jointer🤔 maybe your blades are not level or the tables are not positioned correctly. I made a video on jointer basics, maybe there's some information that could be useful ?
An easier solution could be to make an L shape fence board and G clamp it to both ends of the table.
But the infeed table moves up and down???
@@CasualDIY This should not change the fence being 90 degrees to the table, but if the G clamp affected the adjustable table perhaps shiming that end of the fence would stabilise everything.
@@Iazzaboyce Bit of a hassle to do as I do change the depth of cut depending if I'm doing a face or side of the board. If you clamp to the front bed it will lift the back side of the fence and it's not gonna be stable. And in this case it all about precision.
@@CasualDIY OK, so how about using 2 G clamps on the fixed table and allowing the fence to clear the adjustable table...
@@Iazzaboyce well the fence needs to be long and if one end will have no support then you are running into potentially having some flex at the infeed side.
Hi Tomaz
Great video. I have the same machine. Do you have any drawings available (even if written by hand on a piece of paper) that would assist me in making the same fence system. Don't mind if there's a fee...
Thank you,
I don't actually but I could put something together for you over the weekend. Just drop me an email with a reminder please. casualdiyuk@gmail.com
I am trying to convince my wife to let me buy a planer/thicknesser but I have little space and little money. Would you recommend the Titan machine? Is it worth the money or do I wait for a better option?
A better option will be a lot more expensive. Unfortunately for this price range you will not get anything better
Thank you!
sorry me again haha my wood is tapering side to side fence seems square but im guessing its the poor quality fence would you say
Could be the fence. It could be flexing as you applying too much pressure when pushing the wood through or the blades are not level
@@CasualDIY yes think ill make new fence does flex alot mind , im new too planing obviously is there a nack or do i just push through with even pressure
@@theyorkshirelad. Even pressure, takes a bit of practice. But make sure you doing it in a safe manner. Remember fingers don't grow back
@@CasualDIY thank you sir good advice
09:26 "Perfect!! She's perfect!!" (ref to ua-cam.com/video/yczsr6Gy3PU/v-deo.html )
Lol 😆
I am convinced! NOT to get this tool! I might save some money cos it's cheap but I don't want to spend hours hacking a solution for something a surface planer should have already!
You will need to save up a lot more. As anything in the +£100 price range in exactly the same tool.
@@CasualDIY Yeah it's a bit sad. I think I'll save up my pennies and get the dedicated Triton surface planer. Of course that'd mean saving up even more for a separate lunchbox thicknesser, but I guess you gets what you pays for eh?
@@DavidLee-cw6ci yes unfortunately with this type of tools the more you spend the better tool you get