Don't know if you have figured it yet and I havn't got one of these but I am sure you will find that the plastic handle on the fence is spring loaded. Either push in or pull out to release it from the bolt then you can twist it to re-position to enable you to tighten the fence at the 45 degree angle
I’ve had mine for around 5 years now, no blowing up! Although the dust port is constantly blocked and it’s loud as hell! But not bad for a budget machine
Dust port is definitely one that could do with improvement! This latest one has had quite a bit of use since and my lights are all on and no strange smells so fingers crossed!
I have the same planer and I think you will find that if you pull the yellow handle body that it will actually revolve around the shaft, let go and the spring on the shaft re - engages with the splines thus eliminating the problem you are experiencing with hitting the poor quality fence. There are several videos on you tube showing ways to improve this fence. If you check on line, the same design of planer is evidently sold by different so called "manufacturers" and if you look at the machine they are selling it is plain to see that it has been made in the same factory in China. sprayed a different colour and sold as their own brand, the casings are identical!! but the price is considerably more expensive
I’ve noticed the similarities in the manufacturing. Same with a bunch of other products. I have a spindle sander that is the same from all sorts of brands too. Thanks for the tip on the handle, I’ll give it a go and see how it works out. 👍
Definitely worked! This is why it’s so great sharing on UA-cam as you get advice on the little bits. I’m a bit embarrassed I didn’t know it but generally I never move the fence from 90° so I guess it’s not something I’d have needed to use generally.
@@lionandbear hi .. don't be embarrassed .. I'm looking at the reviews to see if I coulld unbox and assemble one .. urm I'm not confident .. and normally when I watch a you tube video I think .. I can do that too .. but he went a bit quick ... Well for a real novice like me ..
I have only just upgraded to an axminster after using the titan for nearly 10 years, there's a couple of things you can do to make it better, first I put plywood on the fence to give me something that resembles square, later changed it to 10mm aluminium for £20, next get rid of the bars underneath and make a larger bed for the thicknesser you get less snipe, third thing buy a few spare blades now for 2 reasons, 1 you should always have spares incase you chip one and 2, I had to buy some blades just before I stopped using mine and they were nearly 3 times the price of the fist sets I bought.
Great advice Paul, thank you! I’ll be sure to pick up some spare blades soon and I like your idea of removing the bars to make a larger bed to remove the snipe! Is your Axminster one a planer/thicknesser combo as well? What model did you get?
Great demo video of the planer. Yes it's very good for the price, so some very small issues can be expected! But the tightening handle issue on the fence 6:33, is not actually an issue. I don't know if anyone else has said here, but it's a special spring loaded handle that you pull-out and then push-in at a more suitable angle (on the internal screw), so that it can then be turned and tightened, -without fouling the fence. Parkside tools often use the same type of handle, where I first saw the idea. Keep the videos coming.
Thanks mate. Yeah I’ve been told about the handle thing. Pretty obvious when you think about it too so I feel a bit silly but ah well, everyday’s a school day! I think the machine is a great starter machine as you can’t even get just a thicknesser for that price from most places.
Yellow (torque) handle should be spring-loaded. When you've turned it as far as it will go, pull it out and you can turn the handle back without loosening it. They are commonly used in industry and really work well! Also, try and wrap the mains cable anti-clockwise as you may find it'll hold the plug end in place.
Cheers mate, the handle certainly is spring loaded. I’ll give the cord a fry the other way round. My natural instinct is always to wrap it clockwise for some reason so this never even occurred to me 😂
My push blocks only touched the work on the corners, so just slid over it! I screwed them to a piece of plywood with a more grippy surface added. So far I've removed the plastic end on the dust extractor hose and attached the hose itself to the planer, which works but takes a bit of time, and risks damaging the hose if done too often. The plan is to 3D print an adaptor, which is something I need to do for some of my other tools too.
3D printed adaptors is definitely the way forward! I’ve been using the good old duct tape method for now. The sandpaper on the grip blocks worked a treat for me.
nice review, gives a good idea of what to expect from the product! im on my third one of these, replaced twice under warranty, first one the infeed roller rubber coating came off, at first i wasnt sure if it was because i was using rough pallet wood (complete beginner at this stage) but spoke to staff at local screwfix and they told me to take it back for replacement, easy, no hassle return/exchange, second time i took it back was because the infeed table was not in line with the outfeed (after a fair amount of use) and i could not get flat boards from using it, and there is no way of adjusting the table positioning, again easy exchange, the plastic handle for tightening the infeed table after adjustmnet has broke on all 3 of mine very quickly, its just not fit for purpose, so just bin that off straight away and use an allen key! started having infeed table issue with my current one today, took it apart a bit to try and find some kind of adjustment or issue with no luck, though after re-assembly the table was almost straight, it seems if the mounting bolts are not tight it can easilly become not level with outfeed, and after adjusting depth of cut outwards (thicker) turn knob back clockwise and it pulls the table back straight. the fence is too thin, dont think it would ever stay flat, will bend easy with a little force, that being said i check it reguarly and adjust best i can and get acceptable results, though i would like to improve this at some point either attach material onto its face for a new reference face, or make something new to replace completley, it is by far the cheapest on the market, and it can feel a little under powered, i feel like the blades would have a longer usefull life with a more powerfull motor, that being said waxing the tables does help a little reducing friction and the force needed to feed boards through the thicknesser, leaving all available power for the cutting head, i would like to upgrade at some point, but it seems the next cheapest options are £700+ (new prices) i think i would go for Metabo HC260, but cant quite justify that level of investment for a part time hobby just yet!
Yeah it’s definitely not without its flaws but for the price you can’t go wrong and as you and I have both proved, screwfix honour the warranty with no questions asked which makes it a purchase you can be confident with. Definitely a tool everyone would want to upgrade at some point but going from £150 to £700 is quite a jump but I think there are a couple of tools in between that level that have better fences etc that might be worth a try first.
Thanks Ben you review really made a difference, I've never owned a thicknesser before and have a couple of projects lined up that mean I will absolutely need one (well, that's what I told the wife!). I was not sure whether I wanted a bench top thicknesser or a combi...I now know it's a combi and your video really helped, plus my local DIY store (in France) has a great offer on this machine, so I think I will be off there to buy one!
I fixed the dust port with a 2 litre coke bottle cut down slides over snug then leccy tape and my standard vacuum pipe goes snug over the screw top sorted.
Excellent video, informative and filmed and narrated properly with no pointless fancy filming gimmicks used that many youtubers are fond of using. Regarding the machine the Titan; when you mentioned that it was not possible to alter the angle of the fence much because the handle gets in the way It looks like the handle was one of those spring types (Bristol handle) where you pull up and turn the handle part to another position whilst keeping the thread in place ? Or maybe not? I don't have one of these, I have an old UK made Startrite that I bought over 30 years ago and is still working fine but I have often wondered how good (or bad) these cheaper planers were so I found your video very interesting (you can see my Startrite in one or more of my videos. FWIW I tend to edge plane my timber using a router table these days for panel making, I find it more accurate than the planer. Again you can see my method in one of my videos. (Sorry to waffle on)
Great video. Good summary and great points regarding cheap yellow lever. No deal breaker but good to know. Screwfix live coming up too....could it be my next purchase.....
I reckon it’s worth it Nick. It’s a great way to up your game without breaking the bank. Warranty is always a winner with these kinds of tools too. Let me know if you get one!
I am thinking of getting one when funds allow and this honest video has given me confidence that it will be the right choice. I find Screwfix's after sales service to be very good.
Hi Ben. Just found your channel and have watched a few videos. Really good relaxed style and great topics. With all my 100mm hoses I use tapered ends so they fit all off the 100mm ports.
Thanks Steve, really appreciate the kind words! I need to invest in some more hose and ends really as I’ve only got the stuff that came with my vac and a couple of random bits. Generally I use duct tape on everything 😂
Hi, You commented about the yellow lever for tightening the fence. They are clamping levers, spring loaded, so tighten up, pull lever away from screw and turn to a new position, continue tightening.
Really like your relaxed style. Very fair video - for the price it’s a great little machine. Let me know if you manage to solve the dust port issue though. I haven’t found anything that fits either!
Those yellow handles that you say constitute a design floor I think you will find they are on springs so you can pull the handle out and turn it then release and you can tighten up to the required tightness
Yes that’s correct, a few people pointed that out to me. I’ve not had handles like that on a tool and I think I was being a bit dim 😂😂 still could’ve been a lot easier with a knob or something so as to keep it simpler
Heat that port up and push the fitting on. When it goes cold job done. As for the machine I bought one but found so many things that annoyed me I took it back. But saying that the bed on mine was flat. Oh the noise was a killer. I ended up with a dewalt used with a nice induction motor. I have subscribed and thank you for the video 👍
Thanks for the comments Mark, and for subscribing 🙏. Heating it up sounds like a good option but I guess I’d need a new vac adaptor that can live on the machine if I do that so will get one bought. I’d love a nice Dewalt and will hope to get one in the future as they are a serious bit of kit!
@@lionandbear heat gun makes them soft very fast but gently does it. Yes they are big money but well spent for future projects. Look forward to viewing more of your videos
Great video. Titan gear does seem to have a good reputation and this sounds like another great value for money machine. Regarding extraction hose, surely problem could be sorted by putting it in boiling hot water for a while? Either that or make sleeve from metal and jubilee fastening clips. As for the fence screw or glue piece of metal plate or thick perspex plate to it to even out poor quality pressing. Finally file measurement pointers to a sharp point and adjust once thickness of wood has been established for accuracy every time.
All great suggestions. I think generally people are more accepting to having to make a few alterations to get a tool at this price point up to scratch versus one that costs a fortune where you’d expect everything to be perfect.
I live in New Zealand and this machine is available under the local Tool Shed brand. I have had one for 4 to 5 years and it has had extensive use with few issues. The knives are high-speed steel and need regular sharpening, which is easily achieved using a sheet of 1000 grit wet and dry sandpaper glued on an old mirror. They are simple to change and set up. If they get too bad, or nicked, my local saw doctor regrinds them for $25 (a new set here is $85 - about 35 Pounds). One issue I have had is the screw mechanism on the thicknesser bed gets gunged up and hard to adjust, so requires regular cleaning and lubricating - I use a teflon-based spray. The other issue is that the dust hood on mine only has a 70mm duct and clogs easily, but these are minor complaints. I agree, this is a great home-workshop tool. It allows me to have the facility of a jointer and thicknesser at a great price and compact size.
try heating the exhaust pipe and brute force ... I had a similar thing with an oxygen machine with pipes to connect ... Both the exact same size ... They were plastic instead of metal but the same principl3 apply ... We phoned the hospital but got told it was standard and try a bit of brute force ... After three people tried brute force i tried nearly boiling water ... And the heat made the plastic give a little ... Perhaps a heat gun or welder can warm up the metal to .. give enough to slot together ... Worth a try ?
Yep had exactly the same issue, tripped the power and gave out a nice burning fragrance! Likewise contacted screwfix and had a replacement that day. This machine does get very hot so am thinking there is an inherent issue there causing that. I have never owned a thicknesser so not really sure of things to be aware of. I vacuum it out after each use, including removing the casing around the belts, and give it a spray with dry lube. All that said, for a wood worker on a budget it's a good little machine.
Interesting that you had the same result. Someone else posted that they’d taken the rubber feet off and as a result it was too close to the flat surface it was sat on which meant the air couldn’t flow as well. Might be worth making sure there’s appropriate ventilation underneath. Just in case. I agree though, for a woodworker on a budget or starting out, it’s a great little tool.
@lionandbear with my current circumstances having dramatically changed 10 days before Xmas (I quit because my boss was an arse) I think the planer is about to get a lot more use, so I will see how long it will last. May well have to upgrade if things work out, but for now I have to have a little faith in a cheapish tool. =)
Nice work on getting yourself out of the rat race mate. Scary times but hopefully worth it 💪 I guess it depends on how much work you’re going to put through the machine but I imagine if you spread out the workload on it so it doesn’t get overheated then you’ll do alright for a while until you can upgrade. Keep me updated on how you’re getting on with it all!
@lionandbear Unfortunately needs must and I must find temporary employment until I can get things made, advertised and sold. I shall absolutely keep you updated regards planer anyway. Keep the videos coming mate, always good to watch and gain info.
Yeah I feel you mate but hopefully this could turn into something great for you. 🤞 I’m just editing my next videos now so will hopefully have them up in the next few days.
I've had mine for awhile and the issue I have is in thickness mode the vibrations often cause the feed table to creep up thus changing the thickness setting
Hello, thanks for this video, it is very explanatory, I have 2 questions: how has the plane behaved in these 2 months since you have it?, and how does the machine behave with large woods such as 60 inches? I have always seen that they do tests with short pieces of wood
No problem. I’m pleased you liked the video. Are you specifically asking about the top planer(jointer)? If so, I’ve found it to be acceptable with longer boards. You probably wouldn’t want to go much longer than the 60” you mentioned as the bed isn’t the longest but if you take it easy and focus on where you’re putting the pressure then you should get a good result.
Mines just exploded after about 3 years of very occasional use. I’m so disappointed and can’t find a replacement motor (as the rest of the machine is in great condition. 😤
Hi I have had burn outs on them but on my 3rd one I built a 4" frame around the base without using the rubber feet ,what I found with using the feet it was to close to the table and the belt sucks up the shavings threw the vent at the bottom, its lasted the last 2 out and still runs fine months latter
That’s a good bit of advice. I think the airflow is clearly a bit of a design flaw but as it stands I’ve not had any problems with this one so hopefully it continues this way. 🤞
Good question. The lights and power went out for the entire garage and house. My garage electrics have their own fuses but I needed to flick the whole house back on. Im really sorry but my electrical knowledge isn’t great so I wouldn’t want to state categorically what it was in case it’s incorrect. Hopefully that helps though?
I’ve had this one for years now the push pads are useless it’s noisy and it’s not in any range but it’s own if you don’t push it and you tune it in then it’s as good as others except when you get into the thousands bracket for a diyer it’s perfect I’m well chuffed with mine like your vid have subscribed to your channel
I’m sorry but after watching this vid to the end, I couldn’t help but think the title and the thumbnail is a bit click-baity!! No fire, no sparks in the your recollection of the experience. The all caps “DONT” inferred a negative connotation especially with that thumbnail but you still recommend the machine and 8 months of use could easily dislodge a connection which could cause the burning smell. Also the customer service you got from Screwfix was amazing imo. Getting a straight swap on something you could have been the cause of, by accident, is top notch, again, imo. Your review on the machine seems, on the whole, positive, I suggest that your title/thumbnail should reflect that.
Please tell me someone told him those yellow handles pull out & turn to a different position so they tighten in any position, they're adjustable locking handles???
Not done anything special yet mate. Still using duct tape on mine when I bother hooking it up. Otherwise a well placed bin works well for catching a lot of it.
I’ve just got this and using the thicknesser however it’s making some of the wood all black stripes. I am literally cleaning out the extract every 3 or 4 boards and have the Hoover sucking in there while it’s operational which helps but it’s not exactly practical having to stop that often to clear it out. Any suggestions? Oh it probably worth noting only adjusting it about 1mm. at a time I don’t want to burn it out. Thank you
I got black marks initially from the feed rollers that were marking the wood but it came off with a quick sand. Don’t get them anymore so I guess it was just a bedding in process. Perhaps it’s that? With regards to the dust extraction. Are you saying your vac is filling up really quickly?
Thank you, I’ll persevere with it. Yes the vac is filling up quickly. It’s specifically for construction work but not connected as such to the thicknesser if that makes sense but it helps stop it clogging with sawdust so quickly.
You’ll find that the vac will fill up a lot quicker than from other tools just due to the nature of the work the thicknesser does. It takes thicker shavings than something such as a saw. I have the same problem but I’ve got quite a large shop vac that helps (I did a review here if you’re interested: ua-cam.com/video/KOoODOpZw7U/v-deo.html).
How old is it? If it’s in warranty, just take it back to screwfix. If it’s out of warranty it might not worth buying a new motor as it’d probably cost the same as the whole unit.
These small planer thicknessers are copy's of a German brand I own. Close inspection shows there built cheaply compared to the original German machines that I paid over £400 for new. I've used mine daily for approx 20 years and have a use in most work shops but have limitations as only have a small motor mine is 1000, watts but never failed. Titan machines are all noisy I believe it's the cheap bearings the company puts in there machines to save money. Also this brand is bottom range but affordable and does the job intended if not with best of accuracy. Nice presentation video with facts people wish to know before making a purchase.
Absolutely agree! The price point is definitely aimed at entry level and as long as buyers go into it with that mindset then they should be fairly happy with the result (such as I am). Its definitely one of those tools that will get upgraded in due time but does the job for now. It’s interesting to see just how many tools are the same as each other, just with a different packaging or brand. I’ve noticed a lot of bobbin/spindle sanders seem to have a common look & feel too.
@@lionandbear These copy cat machines as you mention are the same machines that are even produced for Aldi and Lidl are made in same far east factory but with different branding the machine are identical in every way all traceable back to same factory normally shown in small writing on bottom of every box. Delta state there brand is made in UK but every component is manufactured in India so avoid at all costs probably the poorest quality machines ever made to last but not very long.
I appreciate these machines for the money sort of represent reasonable value for money. If you are serious about home woodworking save your money as you can hand plane your timber better than the results with these machines. You cannot do anything with the twisted fence or move it across the bed, and the beds can't be adjusted to remove snipe so you will need a hand plane to remove that. Noise is horrendous and you will upset your neighbours if you run it for any length of time. My recommendation is to save up and buy one of the craft machines from Axminster or one of the various clones. Remember this is not much more than a toy made in China with no quality control. Not trying to come across high and mighty just my honest opinion of the machine, if thats your price range don't expect too much.
My expectations for it were definitely set at the right level to be fair but I really appreciate the feedback. I’m definitely a machine/power tool guy rather than a hand tool guy though but will definitely be looking to upgrade it in due course as it’s more of a starter machine. Appreciate the thoughts and advice though Gary and hopefully you’ll enjoy some more of my videos going forwards too 👍
Oh wow! I guess that’s the case when you buy a cheap machine though. That 3yr warranty is the thing that really stands out for this machine. Makes a big difference
@@lionandbear Yeah the 3 year warranty has been a god send because screw fix just changed it for a new one each time it broke. After the 3rd they said Titan may stop replacements or even a refund so i'm on the lookout for a new planer now after getting my money back.
@fivefourfivedegrees ah well that’s good timing then mate as I’ve literally just upgraded mine to the Lumberjack tools 10” one (primarily due to needing a better fence to edge joint some boards). I put it together last night and had a little play around with it. It’s a decent upgrade from the Titan without being ridiculously expensive. I’ll be doing a review on it in the new year and will be using it on an upcoming oak dining table project.
@@lionandbear awesome that’s actually one of the ones I have my eye on. Also stuck between a planer thicknesser & just a thicknesser as I very rarely used the top planer. I mainly used the Titan to clean up Pallet wood & on the thicknesser.
@fivefourfivedegrees I was primarily the same but have started working with some nicer quality wood and want to clean up the face and edge which I was just not trusting the titan for as much.
I don’t disagree with you. I just tend to find second hand good machines quite hard to find and you obviously don’t get the warranty so if you buy one it’s a gamble as to whether it’s any good or not.
@@lionandbear yeah agree on the risks. But never had any tool broken inside the warranty tbh like u had. Only due to my own mistakes or after years of use/abuse. I buy alot 2nd hand makita and dewalt. But i look for weeks before buying something.
@rn.v4629 I agree mate, second hand is definitely the way to get the best value tools. Pretty much every tool I bought when I started out was second hand so it’s definitely a good way to get tools.
Yeah they’re definitely all the same type of thing. Probably all made in the same factory at that price range. Shame you didn’t get on with yours. Mine definitely isn’t perfect but is doing ok for me for now.
Hence the price. The 3 year warranty more than covers it in my opinion though as they just swap it if there’s an issue which is much better than trying to fit parts. I see this as a good starter tool for anyone considering getting a planer or thicknesser as they can figure out what features they actually need/use and upgrade accordingly.
@lionandbear what happens after three years then? Basically take it to the dump. You would be better getting a good used machine for not much more than the cost of this one.
@LS-td3dz it doesn’t automatically die at 3years though. If it does die prior to the 3yr end period then you can get it replaced but it won’t always die by then. Depends how much you use it. If you can get a good second hand one then that’s a good way to go.
Sorry, but you shouldn't come off talking about something if you don't have skills. Par example (of many others) If the handle won turn all the way, well. . . . pull it out, reset it and pushes it back in and. . . BOILA, now you'll have it. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN, Right Pal?
Thanks mate, someone else helped me out with that bit. It’s a review of how I’ve found the tool rather than claiming to be a professional. Professionals definitely wouldn’t be buying this entry level hobbies tool. I’ve not personally come across those types of levers on any other tool I own so I assume it’s ok to not know everything?
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Don't know if you have figured it yet and I havn't got one of these but I am sure you will find that the plastic handle on the fence is spring loaded. Either push in or pull out to release it from the bolt then you can twist it to re-position to enable you to tighten the fence at the 45 degree angle
I’ve had mine for around 5 years now, no blowing up! Although the dust port is constantly blocked and it’s loud as hell! But not bad for a budget machine
Dust port is definitely one that could do with improvement! This latest one has had quite a bit of use since and my lights are all on and no strange smells so fingers crossed!
I have the same planer and I think you will find that if you pull the yellow handle body that it will actually revolve around the shaft, let go and the spring on the shaft re - engages with the splines thus eliminating the problem you are experiencing with hitting the poor quality fence.
There are several videos on you tube showing ways to improve this fence.
If you check on line, the same design of planer is evidently sold by different so called "manufacturers" and if you look at the machine they are selling it is plain to see that it has been made in the same factory in China. sprayed a different colour and sold as their own brand, the casings are identical!! but the price is considerably more expensive
I’ve noticed the similarities in the manufacturing. Same with a bunch of other products. I have a spindle sander that is the same from all sorts of brands too.
Thanks for the tip on the handle, I’ll give it a go and see how it works out. 👍
@@lionandbear Our studio lights have the same kind of handle - pulling it out should do the trick
Definitely worked! This is why it’s so great sharing on UA-cam as you get advice on the little bits. I’m a bit embarrassed I didn’t know it but generally I never move the fence from 90° so I guess it’s not something I’d have needed to use generally.
@@lionandbear hi .. don't be embarrassed ..
I'm looking at the reviews to see if I coulld unbox and assemble one .. urm I'm not confident .. and normally when I watch a you tube video I think .. I can do that too .. but he went a bit quick ... Well for a real novice like me ..
Thanks Rachel, assembly of this one is easy enough though in general as there’s not much that needs doing to get it up and running.
I have only just upgraded to an axminster after using the titan for nearly 10 years, there's a couple of things you can do to make it better, first I put plywood on the fence to give me something that resembles square, later changed it to 10mm aluminium for £20, next get rid of the bars underneath and make a larger bed for the thicknesser you get less snipe, third thing buy a few spare blades now for 2 reasons, 1 you should always have spares incase you chip one and 2, I had to buy some blades just before I stopped using mine and they were nearly 3 times the price of the fist sets I bought.
Great advice Paul, thank you! I’ll be sure to pick up some spare blades soon and I like your idea of removing the bars to make a larger bed to remove the snipe!
Is your Axminster one a planer/thicknesser combo as well? What model did you get?
Where did you get the aluminium from? And did you bond it to the original fence or transfer the brackets? Thanks
Great demo video of the planer. Yes it's very good for the price, so some very small issues can be expected! But the tightening handle issue on the fence 6:33, is not actually an issue. I don't know if anyone else has said here, but it's a special spring loaded handle that you pull-out and then push-in at a more suitable angle (on the internal screw), so that it can then be turned and tightened, -without fouling the fence. Parkside tools often use the same type of handle, where I first saw the idea. Keep the videos coming.
Thanks mate. Yeah I’ve been told about the handle thing. Pretty obvious when you think about it too so I feel a bit silly but ah well, everyday’s a school day!
I think the machine is a great starter machine as you can’t even get just a thicknesser for that price from most places.
Yellow (torque) handle should be spring-loaded. When you've turned it as far as it will go, pull it out and you can turn the handle back without loosening it. They are commonly used in industry and really work well! Also, try and wrap the mains cable anti-clockwise as you may find it'll hold the plug end in place.
Cheers mate, the handle certainly is spring loaded. I’ll give the cord a fry the other way round. My natural instinct is always to wrap it clockwise for some reason so this never even occurred to me 😂
I've got one of these and use it regularly without any issues. At the price it's bang on.
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My push blocks only touched the work on the corners, so just slid over it! I screwed them to a piece of plywood with a more grippy surface added. So far I've removed the plastic end on the dust extractor hose and attached the hose itself to the planer, which works but takes a bit of time, and risks damaging the hose if done too often. The plan is to 3D print an adaptor, which is something I need to do for some of my other tools too.
3D printed adaptors is definitely the way forward! I’ve been using the good old duct tape method for now. The sandpaper on the grip blocks worked a treat for me.
nice review, gives a good idea of what to expect from the product!
im on my third one of these, replaced twice under warranty, first one the infeed roller rubber coating came off, at first i wasnt sure if it was because i was using rough pallet wood (complete beginner at this stage) but spoke to staff at local screwfix and they told me to take it back for replacement, easy, no hassle return/exchange,
second time i took it back was because the infeed table was not in line with the outfeed (after a fair amount of use) and i could not get flat boards from using it, and there is no way of adjusting the table positioning, again easy exchange,
the plastic handle for tightening the infeed table after adjustmnet has broke on all 3 of mine very quickly, its just not fit for purpose, so just bin that off straight away and use an allen key!
started having infeed table issue with my current one today, took it apart a bit to try and find some kind of adjustment or issue with no luck, though after re-assembly the table was almost straight, it seems if the mounting bolts are not tight it can easilly become not level with outfeed, and after adjusting depth of cut outwards (thicker) turn knob back clockwise and it pulls the table back straight.
the fence is too thin, dont think it would ever stay flat, will bend easy with a little force, that being said i check it reguarly and adjust best i can and get acceptable results, though i would like to improve this at some point either attach material onto its face for a new reference face, or make something new to replace completley,
it is by far the cheapest on the market, and it can feel a little under powered, i feel like the blades would have a longer usefull life with a more powerfull motor, that being said waxing the tables does help a little reducing friction and the force needed to feed boards through the thicknesser, leaving all available power for the cutting head,
i would like to upgrade at some point, but it seems the next cheapest options are £700+ (new prices) i think i would go for Metabo HC260, but cant quite justify that level of investment for a part time hobby just yet!
Yeah it’s definitely not without its flaws but for the price you can’t go wrong and as you and I have both proved, screwfix honour the warranty with no questions asked which makes it a purchase you can be confident with.
Definitely a tool everyone would want to upgrade at some point but going from £150 to £700 is quite a jump but I think there are a couple of tools in between that level that have better fences etc that might be worth a try first.
Thanks for taking the time & share, it is a very very useful video ! 🏆🏆🏆
Thanks Ben you review really made a difference, I've never owned a thicknesser before and have a couple of projects lined up that mean I will absolutely need one (well, that's what I told the wife!). I was not sure whether I wanted a bench top thicknesser or a combi...I now know it's a combi and your video really helped, plus my local DIY store (in France) has a great offer on this machine, so I think I will be off there to buy one!
I’m pleased it helped you James. 👍
I fixed the dust port with a 2 litre coke bottle cut down slides over snug then leccy tape and my standard vacuum pipe goes snug over the screw top sorted.
You should be on Blue Peter with that one! Love it!
Excellent video, informative and filmed and narrated properly with no pointless fancy filming gimmicks used that many youtubers are fond of using.
Regarding the machine the Titan; when you mentioned that it was not possible to alter the angle of the fence much because the handle gets in the way It looks like the handle was one of those spring types (Bristol handle) where you pull up and turn the handle part to another position whilst keeping the thread in place ? Or maybe not?
I don't have one of these, I have an old UK made Startrite that I bought over 30 years ago and is still working fine but I have often wondered how good (or bad) these cheaper planers were so I found your video very interesting (you can see my Startrite in one or more of my videos.
FWIW I tend to edge plane my timber using a router table these days for panel making, I find it more accurate than the planer. Again you can see my method in one of my videos. (Sorry to waffle on)
I have one of these. Had an issue with the bed not been level. Screwfix exchanged it no questions asked. There custamer survice is second to non.
Definitely gives you confidence when buying from them that’s for sure
I have had this machine for 5 yrs without any issues.
Great video. Good summary and great points regarding cheap yellow lever. No deal breaker but good to know. Screwfix live coming up too....could it be my next purchase.....
I reckon it’s worth it Nick. It’s a great way to up your game without breaking the bank. Warranty is always a winner with these kinds of tools too. Let me know if you get one!
i will put on my christmass list after watching that . been in two minds for a while but as you say thier isnt anything else at that price
Absolutely it’s definitely worth it for the price and the warranty gives you that peace of mind. Fingers crossed Santa brings it!
I am thinking of getting one when funds allow and this honest video has given me confidence that it will be the right choice. I find Screwfix's after sales service to be very good.
Glad it’s helped you Graeme. Their no quibble after sales gives you so much confidence when buying stuff from them.
if you didn't buy yet, just wait to have a bit more so you can buy a better one. Titan is classic chinese stuff that gets issues after issues
Very clear introduction.👍
Hi Ben. Just found your channel and have watched a few videos. Really good relaxed style and great topics. With all my 100mm hoses I use tapered ends so they fit all off the 100mm ports.
Thanks Steve, really appreciate the kind words! I need to invest in some more hose and ends really as I’ve only got the stuff that came with my vac and a couple of random bits. Generally I use duct tape on everything 😂
Hi,
You commented about the yellow lever for tightening the fence. They are clamping levers, spring loaded, so tighten up, pull lever away from screw and turn to a new position, continue tightening.
Thanks. A few others have already helped with that but I really appreciate you taking the time to comment.
Great review Ben. I've had this planer thicknesser for several years now but I still picked up a few tips. Thanks. Just subbed.😀
Thanks Jim, great to hear that it was still useful for you and thanks for subscribing!
Really like your relaxed style. Very fair video - for the price it’s a great little machine. Let me know if you manage to solve the dust port issue though. I haven’t found anything that fits either!
Thanks for the comment. Best solution so far is lots of duct tape!
The 100mm dust hose on my Ryobi dust extractor fits fine.
The handle lifts in and out for adjustment of the fence so you can go down to 45degrees.
Those yellow handles that you say constitute a design floor I think you will find they are on springs so you can pull the handle out and turn it then release and you can tighten up to the required tightness
Yes that’s correct, a few people pointed that out to me. I’ve not had handles like that on a tool and I think I was being a bit dim 😂😂 still could’ve been a lot easier with a knob or something so as to keep it simpler
Heat that port up and push the fitting on. When it goes cold job done. As for the machine I bought one but found so many things that annoyed me I took it back. But saying that the bed on mine was flat. Oh the noise was a killer. I ended up with a dewalt used with a nice induction motor.
I have subscribed and thank you for the video 👍
Thanks for the comments Mark, and for subscribing 🙏. Heating it up sounds like a good option but I guess I’d need a new vac adaptor that can live on the machine if I do that so will get one bought. I’d love a nice Dewalt and will hope to get one in the future as they are a serious bit of kit!
@@lionandbear heat gun makes them soft very fast but gently does it. Yes they are big money but well spent for future projects.
Look forward to viewing more of your videos
Great video. Titan gear does seem to have a good reputation and this sounds like another great value for money machine.
Regarding extraction hose, surely problem could be sorted by putting it in boiling hot water for a while? Either that or make sleeve from metal and jubilee fastening clips. As for the fence screw or glue piece of metal plate or thick perspex plate to it to even out poor quality pressing. Finally file measurement pointers to a sharp point and adjust once thickness of wood has been established for accuracy every time.
All great suggestions. I think generally people are more accepting to having to make a few alterations to get a tool at this price point up to scratch versus one that costs a fortune where you’d expect everything to be perfect.
Yellow handle (function explained below) is known as a ‘Bristol-Lever’
I live in New Zealand and this machine is available under the local Tool Shed brand. I have had one for 4 to 5 years and it has had extensive use with few issues. The knives are high-speed steel and need regular sharpening, which is easily achieved using a sheet of 1000 grit wet and dry sandpaper glued on an old mirror. They are simple to change and set up. If they get too bad, or nicked, my local saw doctor regrinds them for $25 (a new set here is $85 - about 35 Pounds). One issue I have had is the screw mechanism on the thicknesser bed gets gunged up and hard to adjust, so requires regular cleaning and lubricating - I use a teflon-based spray. The other issue is that the dust hood on mine only has a 70mm duct and clogs easily, but these are minor complaints.
I agree, this is a great home-workshop tool. It allows me to have the facility of a jointer and thicknesser at a great price and compact size.
I live in New Zealand as well and thinking of buying this machine, Does it work well as a jointer?
I’ve found it very hit and miss as a jointer. I’m planning to replace the fence as the fence is without a doubt the biggest issue with it.
try heating the exhaust pipe and brute force ... I had a similar thing with an oxygen machine with pipes to connect ... Both the exact same size ... They were plastic instead of metal but the same principl3 apply ... We phoned the hospital but got told it was standard and try a bit of brute force ... After three people tried brute force i tried nearly boiling water ... And the heat made the plastic give a little ...
Perhaps a heat gun or welder can warm up the metal to .. give enough to slot together ...
Worth a try ?
Yep had exactly the same issue, tripped the power and gave out a nice burning fragrance! Likewise contacted screwfix and had a replacement that day. This machine does get very hot so am thinking there is an inherent issue there causing that. I have never owned a thicknesser so not really sure of things to be aware of. I vacuum it out after each use, including removing the casing around the belts, and give it a spray with dry lube. All that said, for a wood worker on a budget it's a good little machine.
Interesting that you had the same result. Someone else posted that they’d taken the rubber feet off and as a result it was too close to the flat surface it was sat on which meant the air couldn’t flow as well. Might be worth making sure there’s appropriate ventilation underneath. Just in case.
I agree though, for a woodworker on a budget or starting out, it’s a great little tool.
@lionandbear with my current circumstances having dramatically changed 10 days before Xmas (I quit because my boss was an arse) I think the planer is about to get a lot more use, so I will see how long it will last. May well have to upgrade if things work out, but for now I have to have a little faith in a cheapish tool. =)
Nice work on getting yourself out of the rat race mate. Scary times but hopefully worth it 💪 I guess it depends on how much work you’re going to put through the machine but I imagine if you spread out the workload on it so it doesn’t get overheated then you’ll do alright for a while until you can upgrade. Keep me updated on how you’re getting on with it all!
@lionandbear Unfortunately needs must and I must find temporary employment until I can get things made, advertised and sold. I shall absolutely keep you updated regards planer anyway. Keep the videos coming mate, always good to watch and gain info.
Yeah I feel you mate but hopefully this could turn into something great for you. 🤞 I’m just editing my next videos now so will hopefully have them up in the next few days.
I've had mine for awhile and the issue I have is in thickness mode the vibrations often cause the feed table to creep up thus changing the thickness setting
Oh wow, I’ve not noticed that but will keep an eye out for it. That’s less than ideal!
Hello, thanks for this video, it is very explanatory, I have 2 questions: how has the plane behaved in these 2 months since you have it?, and how does the machine behave with large woods such as 60 inches? I have always seen that they do tests with short pieces of wood
No problem. I’m pleased you liked the video. Are you specifically asking about the top planer(jointer)? If so, I’ve found it to be acceptable with longer boards. You probably wouldn’t want to go much longer than the 60” you mentioned as the bed isn’t the longest but if you take it easy and focus on where you’re putting the pressure then you should get a good result.
The handle on the fence can be ratcheted by pulling on it.
Can I ask where you got the metal detector from cheers as not listed 👍🏻
Good point, I'd missed it off! I've added it to the description but here's the link to it: amzn.to/3VLYpy6
You can use a waven straight connection remove the rubbers an it will slide over the extraction pipe and then connect your own extraction
I’m planning to do a dedicated dust system at some point so will definitely bare that in mind. Thanks Colm 👍
It didn't actually blow up though, did it. Very good review and didn't need the clickbait title.
Yes the motor blew on it, I explained that at the end and that’s why I’m on my second one.
Mines just exploded after about 3 years of very occasional use. I’m so disappointed and can’t find a replacement motor (as the rest of the machine is in great condition. 😤
Hi I have had burn outs on them but on my 3rd one I built a 4" frame around the base without using the rubber feet ,what I found with using the feet it was to close to the table and the belt sucks up the shavings threw the vent at the bottom, its lasted the last 2 out and still runs fine months latter
That’s a good bit of advice. I think the airflow is clearly a bit of a design flaw but as it stands I’ve not had any problems with this one so hopefully it continues this way. 🤞
I had a similar issue with burning out motor on the titan table saw
Interesting. I guess as an entry level brand they will never be a robust as the higher end brands.
hey Ben - thanks for the review - just out of interest can you remember if it was it a short circuit trip or an RCD trip?
Good question. The lights and power went out for the entire garage and house. My garage electrics have their own fuses but I needed to flick the whole house back on. Im really sorry but my electrical knowledge isn’t great so I wouldn’t want to state categorically what it was in case it’s incorrect. Hopefully that helps though?
Brilliant video, new subscriber
Excellent
Bob
England
HI, what is the measuring tool thingy at 8.43 please? Looks really handy!
EDIT: Got it - combination square!!
Hey, it’s a combination square. You can find them in most DIY stores and online. Here’s a link to one that’s similar to mine. amzn.to/3xKoyXP
had mine for about a year, did ok, motot failed, company did not want to know, a new motor was more expensive than buying a complete new machine.
I’ve had this one for years now the push pads are useless it’s noisy and it’s not in any range but it’s own if you don’t push it and you tune it in then it’s as good as others except when you get into the thousands bracket for a diyer it’s perfect I’m well chuffed with mine like your vid have subscribed to your channel
Totally agree Phil. They’ve definitely priced it right. Thanks for subscribing!
Its not 100mm, its 4 inch which is 101.6mm
I fell for the same issue. Had to buy an adapter on US amazon.
Ah! I might have a look for one of them. Thanks for the tip
I’m sorry but after watching this vid to the end, I couldn’t help but think the title and the thumbnail is a bit click-baity!! No fire, no sparks in the your recollection of the experience. The all caps “DONT” inferred a negative connotation especially with that thumbnail but you still recommend the machine and 8 months of use could easily dislodge a connection which could cause the burning smell. Also the customer service you got from Screwfix was amazing imo. Getting a straight swap on something you could have been the cause of, by accident, is top notch, again, imo. Your review on the machine seems, on the whole, positive, I suggest that your title/thumbnail should reflect that.
Anyone know what the minimum thickness is that you can go to? Will it go down to 4mm thick?
I think it will go down that far but could be a bit risky at that thickness as it doesn’t give much room for error.
Please tell me someone told him those yellow handles pull out & turn to a different position so they tighten in any position, they're adjustable locking handles???
Yep, it’s in the comments mate. Never had them on a tool before and was a bit stupid to have not recognised them for what they were lol 😂
@@lionandbear Believe me, you're not the first person I've seen not realise. On UA-cam or in person.
Makes me feel a bit less dopey lol
did you manage to get the dust extraction connected up. just bought the same machine.
Not done anything special yet mate. Still using duct tape on mine when I bother hooking it up. Otherwise a well placed bin works well for catching a lot of it.
@@lionandbear Appreciate the reply.
No worries mate. Is yours having the same issue with it being too thick for your shop vac?
I’ve just got this and using the thicknesser however it’s making some of the wood all black stripes. I am literally cleaning out the extract every 3 or 4 boards and have the Hoover sucking in there while it’s operational which helps but it’s not exactly practical having to stop that often to clear it out. Any suggestions? Oh it probably worth noting only adjusting it about 1mm. at a time I don’t want to burn it out. Thank you
I got black marks initially from the feed rollers that were marking the wood but it came off with a quick sand. Don’t get them anymore so I guess it was just a bedding in process. Perhaps it’s that?
With regards to the dust extraction. Are you saying your vac is filling up really quickly?
Thank you, I’ll persevere with it. Yes the vac is filling up quickly. It’s specifically for construction work but not connected as such to the thicknesser if that makes sense but it helps stop it clogging with sawdust so quickly.
You’ll find that the vac will fill up a lot quicker than from other tools just due to the nature of the work the thicknesser does. It takes thicker shavings than something such as a saw. I have the same problem but I’ve got quite a large shop vac that helps (I did a review here if you’re interested: ua-cam.com/video/KOoODOpZw7U/v-deo.html).
Be warned! Mine has just blown-up. 😢 …..and I can’t find a replacement motor for it. Anybody got any ideas to help, please?
How old is it? If it’s in warranty, just take it back to screwfix. If it’s out of warranty it might not worth buying a new motor as it’d probably cost the same as the whole unit.
These small planer thicknessers are copy's of a German brand I own. Close inspection shows there built cheaply compared to the original German machines that I paid over £400 for new. I've used mine daily for approx 20 years and have a use in most work shops but have limitations as only have a small motor mine is 1000, watts but never failed. Titan machines are all noisy I believe it's the cheap bearings the company puts in there machines to save money. Also this brand is bottom range but affordable and does the job intended if not with best of accuracy. Nice presentation video with facts people wish to know before making a purchase.
Absolutely agree! The price point is definitely aimed at entry level and as long as buyers go into it with that mindset then they should be fairly happy with the result (such as I am). Its definitely one of those tools that will get upgraded in due time but does the job for now.
It’s interesting to see just how many tools are the same as each other, just with a different packaging or brand. I’ve noticed a lot of bobbin/spindle sanders seem to have a common look & feel too.
@@lionandbear These copy cat machines as you mention are the same machines that are even produced for Aldi and Lidl are made in same far east factory but with different branding the machine are identical in every way all traceable back to same factory normally shown in small writing on bottom of every box. Delta state there brand is made in UK but every component is manufactured in India so avoid at all costs probably the poorest quality machines ever made to last but not very long.
I appreciate these machines for the money sort of represent reasonable value for money. If you are serious about home woodworking save your money as you can hand plane your timber better than the results with these machines. You cannot do anything with the twisted fence or move it across the bed, and the beds can't be adjusted to remove snipe so you will need a hand plane to remove that. Noise is horrendous and you will upset your neighbours if you run it for any length of time. My recommendation is to save up and buy one of the craft machines from Axminster or one of the various clones. Remember this is not much more than a toy made in China with no quality control. Not trying to come across high and mighty just my honest opinion of the machine, if thats your price range don't expect too much.
My expectations for it were definitely set at the right level to be fair but I really appreciate the feedback. I’m definitely a machine/power tool guy rather than a hand tool guy though but will definitely be looking to upgrade it in due course as it’s more of a starter machine. Appreciate the thoughts and advice though Gary and hopefully you’ll enjoy some more of my videos going forwards too 👍
I've gone through 3 of these now, different issue each time. its a shame because it works brilliantly when it works.
Oh wow! I guess that’s the case when you buy a cheap machine though. That 3yr warranty is the thing that really stands out for this machine. Makes a big difference
@@lionandbear Yeah the 3 year warranty has been a god send because screw fix just changed it for a new one each time it broke. After the 3rd they said Titan may stop replacements or even a refund so i'm on the lookout for a new planer now after getting my money back.
@fivefourfivedegrees ah well that’s good timing then mate as I’ve literally just upgraded mine to the Lumberjack tools 10” one (primarily due to needing a better fence to edge joint some boards). I put it together last night and had a little play around with it. It’s a decent upgrade from the Titan without being ridiculously expensive. I’ll be doing a review on it in the new year and will be using it on an upcoming oak dining table project.
@@lionandbear awesome that’s actually one of the ones I have my eye on. Also stuck between a planer thicknesser & just a thicknesser as I very rarely used the top planer. I mainly used the Titan to clean up Pallet wood & on the thicknesser.
@fivefourfivedegrees I was primarily the same but have started working with some nicer quality wood and want to clean up the face and edge which I was just not trusting the titan for as much.
would buy a 2nd hand A-brand, and buy a new set on knives
I don’t disagree with you. I just tend to find second hand good machines quite hard to find and you obviously don’t get the warranty so if you buy one it’s a gamble as to whether it’s any good or not.
@@lionandbear yeah agree on the risks. But never had any tool broken inside the warranty tbh like u had. Only due to my own mistakes or after years of use/abuse. I buy alot 2nd hand makita and dewalt. But i look for weeks before buying something.
@rn.v4629 I agree mate, second hand is definitely the way to get the best value tools. Pretty much every tool I bought when I started out was second hand so it’s definitely a good way to get tools.
Liked and sub'd thanks
I bought it and sold it a week later it was so terrible
Fair enough lol. Did you replace it with another model?
@@lionandbear no they are all the same In that price range, but If i was to get a new one id get the metabo one
Yeah they’re definitely all the same type of thing. Probably all made in the same factory at that price range. Shame you didn’t get on with yours. Mine definitely isn’t perfect but is doing ok for me for now.
I must say, it doesn't look very well built, never seen one of their jointer/planer..
Its built to a budget so definitely not the most solid machine but can’t go wrong for the price
No examples using it. Fail
These are Chinese junk. Screwfix don't even sell spare parts for them.
Hence the price. The 3 year warranty more than covers it in my opinion though as they just swap it if there’s an issue which is much better than trying to fit parts. I see this as a good starter tool for anyone considering getting a planer or thicknesser as they can figure out what features they actually need/use and upgrade accordingly.
@lionandbear what happens after three years then? Basically take it to the dump. You would be better getting a good used machine for not much more than the cost of this one.
@LS-td3dz it doesn’t automatically die at 3years though. If it does die prior to the 3yr end period then you can get it replaced but it won’t always die by then. Depends how much you use it. If you can get a good second hand one then that’s a good way to go.
Sorry, but you shouldn't come off talking about something if you don't have skills.
Par example (of many others) If the handle won turn all the way, well. . . . pull it out, reset it and pushes it back in and. . . BOILA, now you'll have it.
YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN, Right Pal?
Thanks mate, someone else helped me out with that bit. It’s a review of how I’ve found the tool rather than claiming to be a professional. Professionals definitely wouldn’t be buying this entry level hobbies tool. I’ve not personally come across those types of levers on any other tool I own so I assume it’s ok to not know everything?
@@lionandbear Yeah pal, you got a point there, sorry.
No worries, appreciate it bud
It,s voila
@@peterchessell28 Well, Peter. . . . ("it,s")?