What is the optimal number of discus or Angelfish that you should consider buying? How many are too few (or too many)? How to prevent territorial disputes?
Great video ! How many altums can I keep in a 80 gallon tank ? I will also like to get a group of corydoras . Tank will have a thin layer of sand and a couple of artificial roots.
I was given around 11 juvenile silver angels that I put in my 55 gallon community tank. If all the juveniles grow up together will they be less aggressive as they reach adulthood or should I expect to have to remove some?
Thank you very much for the video! I currently have a group of 14 altums in a 600-liter aquarium, all of the same age and apparently I have a pair that has not yet laid eggs, but is defending a territory, I do not plan to breed but I do not have the space to separate the potential pair, is this behavior likely to calm down over time? as I understand the altums have breeding seasons
I am switching my 2200L saltwater aquarium to fresh water, south american blackwater to be precise. I allways loved altum angels as a child and I want to have some in the new set up, how many would you recomend? I'll likely have around 300-500 red neons as well and maybe, not sure yet, some smaller stingrays as well.
You can have 50 Altums in your tank easily, but I would be careful with stingrays as they might go after altums, and perhaps will also try to snack on neons
@@tropicalfishhub 50? Might be a little bit much? In regards to the stingrays, they wouldn't be Leopoldi or Motoros but one of the smaller species like P. jabuti. I don't think they would go for an adult altum, neons maybe but that would likely be occasionally than regularly.
I hope mine don’t want to breed. Dear got I just rearranged the tank and it was an issue again because of height. I can’t imagine identifying the breeders vs the others once the net goes in. I bought a pool net due to height 😬 to help get things off the bottom ie the rocks I don’t like. Removed all the power heads and flow is minimal. Then I had an idea to put the lotus in a basket. What a mess because, again, I can’t reach the bottom so it tipped over and spilled my active substrate everywhere black on sand. 😕 I’ll fix it next water change. Always a challenge 😬
They will only start forming pairs once they reach about 1,5 years, and with wilds it can take even longer. I can imagine how hard it is to service a tank that tall! That lily should look gorgeous once it starts sending leaves to the surface!
So in your opinion in a 450l like community tank (150x60x65) (with roots, plants, floating plants) and 40/45 rummy nose tetra according to your experience better 8 discus or maybe 10? I would like to get the most natural behaviors possible and I don't know if on the one hand 8 can be too few or if they are more than enough
When it comes to their behaviour, there isn't much of a difference between 8 and 10 discus. Depending on how often do you plan to do water changes, you can easily keep 10 discus in your tank.
Do you have any experience keeping a solitary altum angelfish in a tank, perhaps with other peaceful/ compatible tank mates? I've seen conflicting opinions on whether they thrive in such a situation.
I have conditioned my breeding pair separately, keeping male in a tank by himself (with some plecos). He was doing great there for about a month. Altums become more territorial and aggressive towards their own kind as they age, so I think solo individuals should be absolutely fine on their own. However, I would not keep juveniles solo as they thrive in groups.
I have 5 altum f1 (4 inches) in a 36 gallon tank (21 inches tall) and do 2 or 3 weekly water changes (1 20% and 2 10%). Could I continue to have them in the same tank or leave 3 and the other two pass them to a community with discus?. Thank you for you help👍👍
I'd say that your 36 gal is Ok as a grow out tank, but now it seems that your fish are big enough to be moved to a larger tank. Its better to move them all together rather than splitting up because you'll have more chances to have a pair with 5 of them
Hi Mate! I just got an aquarium with these parameters, 230cm lenght, 70cm width, 80cm height. How many Pterophillym scalare can I take in it? I would love to keep a bigger group, about 30 members. Could it work?
Also how many adult angelfish in all can i put in an 80 gallon tank that i dont need to separate in the future..till now i have 4 juvenile of 7cm that are 3 marbles and 1 black...can i add more? I need them to still be here as there permanent home..
Yes, nowadays lots of juvenile wild Altums are imported from Colombia. Many are in miserable condition, so I'd suggest checking them in person before buying
I have a 300 lts tank and put already 4 angelfish that are 3 marble and one black at 7cm big ..i wish i can add 2 more koi angels..also i have a breeding pair in an other tank..its ok like that im ready to breed angelfish..or i can put more in my 300 lts tank?
A lot depends on your filtration and water changes, but if all is well and you are removing breeding pairs to separate tanks, your tank should fit up to 10 regular angels (not altums or wild caught forms)
@@tropicalfishhub Thanks. I'm in the process of making water and setting up the canister filter. I'll use bottled bacteria and put almond leaves with roots and drift wood.
Hi, I'm selling some of my adult altums now, but if you are interested in juveniles, I think Discus Studio currently has some, they are in Aberdeen, but they ship fish across UK.
So if I have 6 Angelfish with dominant and sub dominant fish in a 55, what to do with the least aggressive one that gets beat up?I have no hardscape so there are no territories
Also how many adult angelfish in all can i put in an 80 gallon tank that i dont need to separate in the future..till now i have 4 juvenile of 7cm that are 3 marbles and 1 black...can i add more? I need them to still be here as there permanent home..
It depends on your filtration, whether you have plants and how many times you do water changes. if all of these are in order, then about 16-20 angels would go there easily.
Oh man, all the wild angels I've had in the past were so scared of my hands pointing at them or gesturing around the tank. How long those fishes took to get used to you moving around and not hitting their noses on the glasses? How long do they live in your tanks?
Thans for sharing this informative videos i hope you create more of this soon 🙏
Great video ! How many altums can I keep in a 80 gallon tank ? I will also like to get a group of corydoras . Tank will have a thin layer of sand and a couple of artificial roots.
Very informative thanks!
Safety in numbers 👍🏼
I was given around 11 juvenile silver angels that I put in my 55 gallon community tank. If all the juveniles grow up together will they be less aggressive as they reach adulthood or should I expect to have to remove some?
Excellent info, it makes a lot of sense.
good sugession ....
Thank you very much for the video! I currently have a group of 14 altums in a 600-liter aquarium, all of the same age and apparently I have a pair that has not yet laid eggs, but is defending a territory, I do not plan to breed but I do not have the space to separate the potential pair, is this behavior likely to calm down over time? as I understand the altums have breeding seasons
They will calm down once their breeding cycle is over, which will last for 2-3 months
thank you so much!
I am switching my 2200L saltwater aquarium to fresh water, south american blackwater to be precise. I allways loved altum angels as a child and I want to have some in the new set up, how many would you recomend? I'll likely have around 300-500 red neons as well and maybe, not sure yet, some smaller stingrays as well.
You can have 50 Altums in your tank easily, but I would be careful with stingrays as they might go after altums, and perhaps will also try to snack on neons
@@tropicalfishhub 50? Might be a little bit much? In regards to the stingrays, they wouldn't be Leopoldi or Motoros but one of the smaller species like P. jabuti. I don't think they would go for an adult altum, neons maybe but that would likely be occasionally than regularly.
I hope mine don’t want to breed. Dear got I just rearranged the tank and it was an issue again because of height. I can’t imagine identifying the breeders vs the others once the net goes in. I bought a pool net due to height 😬 to help get things off the bottom ie the rocks I don’t like. Removed all the power heads and flow is minimal. Then I had an idea to put the lotus in a basket. What a mess because, again, I can’t reach the bottom so it tipped over and spilled my active substrate everywhere black on sand. 😕 I’ll fix it next water change. Always a challenge 😬
They will only start forming pairs once they reach about 1,5 years, and with wilds it can take even longer. I can imagine how hard it is to service a tank that tall! That lily should look gorgeous once it starts sending leaves to the surface!
So in your opinion in a 450l like community tank (150x60x65) (with roots, plants, floating plants) and 40/45 rummy nose tetra according to your experience better 8 discus or maybe 10? I would like to get the most natural behaviors possible and I don't know if on the one hand 8 can be too few or if they are more than enough
When it comes to their behaviour, there isn't much of a difference between 8 and 10 discus. Depending on how often do you plan to do water changes, you can easily keep 10 discus in your tank.
Do you have any experience keeping a solitary altum angelfish in a tank, perhaps with other peaceful/ compatible tank mates? I've seen conflicting opinions on whether they thrive in such a situation.
I have conditioned my breeding pair separately, keeping male in a tank by himself (with some plecos). He was doing great there for about a month. Altums become more territorial and aggressive towards their own kind as they age, so I think solo individuals should be absolutely fine on their own. However, I would not keep juveniles solo as they thrive in groups.
I have 6 wild caught Altums, juvenile. And I hope some of them would pair up and breed 😁😁😁
Do you have a lid on your angel fish tank ? I love the look of my tank with no lid
I think I used to have a lid on it, its been ages since I had that tank!
I have 5 altum f1 (4 inches) in a 36 gallon tank (21 inches tall) and do 2 or 3 weekly water changes (1 20% and 2 10%). Could I continue to have them in the same tank or leave 3 and the other two pass them to a community with discus?. Thank you for you help👍👍
I'd say that your 36 gal is Ok as a grow out tank, but now it seems that your fish are big enough to be moved to a larger tank. Its better to move them all together rather than splitting up because you'll have more chances to have a pair with 5 of them
Hi Mate!
I just got an aquarium with these parameters, 230cm lenght, 70cm width, 80cm height. How many Pterophillym scalare can I take in it? I would love to keep a bigger group, about 30 members. Could it work?
That's a large tank. You can keep there 30 angels easily!
Great video.
In 50 gallon tank how many 3 in dicuss fish can be introduced
can you give me some idea about pump size for altum aquarium ?
Also how many adult angelfish in all can i put in an 80 gallon tank that i dont need to separate in the future..till now i have 4 juvenile of 7cm that are 3 marbles and 1 black...can i add more? I need them to still be here as there permanent home..
It depends on whether they pair up. If they do, and you'll have a breeding pair, they'll most likely harass the rest of your angels
I seen wild Altums advertised at 5cm is this possible ?
Yes, nowadays lots of juvenile wild Altums are imported from Colombia. Many are in miserable condition, so I'd suggest checking them in person before buying
I have a 300 lts tank and put already 4 angelfish that are 3 marble and one black at 7cm big ..i wish i can add 2 more koi angels..also i have a breeding pair in an other tank..its ok like that im ready to breed angelfish..or i can put more in my 300 lts tank?
A lot depends on your filtration and water changes, but if all is well and you are removing breeding pairs to separate tanks, your tank should fit up to 10 regular angels (not altums or wild caught forms)
Can i mix discus together with angels? Will there be a problem?
Yes you can, in most cases there should be no problems. These two species live together in the wild
@@tropicalfishhub thanks! I have 15 angels in a 120gal tank. Im planning to add 3 discus, is that ok? Or should i add more?
@@jppj4886 3 are Ok if they are adults, if these are juveniles it is better if you have at least 6, because they will feed better in larger numbers
well done
8:46 didn't understand, did you mean it's better to have only one angelfish ?
What is the type shown on the moment 9:23? Atabapo, or Orinoco?
All Orinoco tank-bred
@@tropicalfishhub I think I could get either Orinoco or Atabapo. Any tips of which would you suggest? I think I like the Orinoco better.
@@Alex_Correa I never had Atabapo, so not much can say from personal exprience
@@tropicalfishhub Thanks. I'm in the process of making water and setting up the canister filter. I'll use bottled bacteria and put almond leaves with roots and drift wood.
Beautiful tank but yes move those guys
Can I mix altum angels with other regular angels?
Yes, you can
Hi so i have 375gal tank.5Lx5Wx2H i would like to put altums in my planted tank.how many could i put in my tank?thanks
You have a huge tank, depending on what other fish you have there, you can get as many as 30 altums.
Hi you can tell me where I can buy some Altum Orinoco like yours?You know someone in Glasgow?Thank you
Hi, I'm selling some of my adult altums now, but if you are interested in juveniles, I think Discus Studio currently has some, they are in Aberdeen, but they ship fish across UK.
@@tropicalfishhub how much you sell the Altum?
I am interested to buy some Altum Orinoco!!!
I want to speack with you you can tell me how I can find you on facebook please?
@@iordachealina4529 Can you please text me or message on Whatsapp tomorrow at 07917634976? Thanks
So if I have 6 Angelfish with dominant and sub dominant fish in a 55, what to do with the least aggressive one that gets beat up?I have no hardscape so there are no territories
6 is a tricky number, your tank is large enough to add more fish, so I would add 2-3 more angels which should add more balance
@@tropicalfishhub thanks for the input
Also how many adult angelfish in all can i put in an 80 gallon tank that i dont need to separate in the future..till now i have 4 juvenile of 7cm that are 3 marbles and 1 black...can i add more? I need them to still be here as there permanent home..
How many angel fish can I put in a 150 gallon tank with school of 30 Cardinal tetra and 12 Cory
It depends on your filtration, whether you have plants and how many times you do water changes. if all of these are in order, then about 16-20 angels would go there easily.
@@tropicalfishhub 20 adult angelfish like yours???
@@Cashcash08 Those are Altums, not regular angels, they grow much larger. You can have about 6-8 of them in 150 gal
@@tropicalfishhub ohhhhhh regular angels don't grow as big as that? How big is your tank? Can I put Cardinal tetra with altum?
@@Cashcash08 Its 120 gal tank. You can keep altums with cardinals but they have to be used to smaller fish since they re young
Oh man, all the wild angels I've had in the past were so scared of my hands pointing at them or gesturing around the tank. How long those fishes took to get used to you moving around and not hitting their noses on the glasses? How long do they live in your tanks?
Those were tank-bred altums. Raised from juveniles, about a year old