Journey would not have had as much commercial success in the 80s without Steve Perry. No one was listening for Neal's guitar. Yes Cain, Perry & Schon made a great songwriting team. But the vocals made the songs great! When they found Arnel, they were blessed with another opportunity for success from another beautiful voice. I watched the Arnel documentary when it first came out. As a die hard Perry fan I didn't want to like Arnel, wanted the endeavor to fail. I know shame on me. But I couldn't help but like Arnel. That voice is beautiful as well as Steve's. He seems like such a genuine & sweet person. Watching that documentary it seemed to me then that THEY were treating him like he was a prop or a roadie or an extra. Even then I thought this fella deserves better. I'm surprised he's lasted as long as he has. Neal & Jon wouldn't have had as much success in their continued touring without Arnel. ARNEL has kept the classic JOURNEY sound alive for the new generations. Journey wouldn't have still been as successfully touring today without Arnel. I'll gladly support any solo work or new band Arnel is with, he's truly gifted! I hope he gets away & finds success & happiness & APPRECIATION!!
Not accurate. Neal's a fantastic guitarist and a great soloist that fit in perfectly with their sound. He was as essential a part of Journey's sound as Steve Perry's vocals and Cain's songwriting ability. Neal has been, it also seems, the problem with Journey as he's been at the center of most of their drama. Not that Steve Perry's strong personality and drive to control more of their sound had nothing to do with him leaving, but Schon really needs to learn to get along with others. They're too old for all this BS, at this point. It's embarrassing.
On that time when journey needed a frontman Their last option is Deen Castronovo And bring smith back to the band I agree neal schon without journey Arnel.pineda Nobody... But in this case , Neal schon showing his truly dedication to music Nothing impossible for a filipino who become the Frontman of famous band Journey..
Arnel TOTALLY saved ZJourney! Their career was DEAD! Arnel was in a Journey Tribute band in the Philippines and they saw him and heard him sing and the rest is resurrection history! Journey should get on their knees and worship the ground this man walks on!
Steve Perry made Neil Schon much richer than he would have been otherwise. I can name multiple guitarists as good and as creative as Schon. There is only one Voice.
There's really 2 voices. Arnel's voice is actually stronger than Steve Perry's. Jason Scheff saved Chicago, where many considered Cetera 'the voice'. I'll take Cetera over Perry any day of the week.
Its time Schon gets over himself. Hes in the middle of all Journeys problems. He had the nerve to say the band is better than theyve ever been. Really Neal ??
@@betsysimek8955They’re only doing 90 min shows these days. I saw them do 3 hours not that long ago. Deen is singing better than Steve Perry, Jeff Scott Soto, or Steve Augeri these days and prob on par with Arnel. Jason has a cleaner tone than all of them. Just sayin.
@@betsysimek8955 that’s just a matter of opinion. I love the way Deen sings. I can agree with your statement with Jason a bit, but when I saw them at the Aragon Ballroom Jason basically sang all the Raised on Radio tracks and it was the best I’ve heard those tracks sung live.
So in the past year where have the problems stemmed? Cane and Schon, Perry’s lawsuit against Schon, and then he attacks Arnel. I think the problem is not everyone else Neal
Really Schone…Pineda is already popular & awarded in Asian country. If you haven’t discovered Pineda on UA-cam… where do you think Journey now? You may get another singer but will not attract crowd as much as Pineda became the front man. It added more crowd from Asian population especially Pilipino crowd.
You don't have to be Asian to love Arnel, Perry's voice might have made Journey but Arnels voice and energy saved Journey. Otherwise what you say is true in as much as Arnel is most probably the one band member who could make as much as he does touring with Journey by doing gigs and tv work by himself. Asia has many good singers but Arnel is in a league of his own when it comes to international stardom. The fact that Arnel has stayed with Journey for so long whilst already a very wealthy man shows me that regardless of the infighting, racist comments and gruelling touring schedule it is difficult to walk away from a dream that has come true. I loved Journey with Perry and just as much with Arnel. Schon should realise that Journey's journey will be over if Arnel leaves.
It NOW takes THREE (3) Singers onstage with JOURNEY ( Arnel Pineda, Deen Castronovo, and Jason Derlatka) to do what ONE STEVE PERRY accomplished! Bravo 👏 Steve Perry for getting one of the greatest post band contracts in the history of music 🎶
If you notice, Schon doesn't sing much anymore. If anything, Jason is there so Neal doesn't have to pipe in at all. I've seen videos with SP where they have an extra voice - not even a musician, but just an extra voice, so don't bother going there.
Journey WOULD NOT BEEN OR BE ANYTHING WITHOUT STEVE PERRY. EVERYONE LOVES JOURNEY FOR STEVE PERRY'S AMAZING VOICE!! HOWEVER YES THE BAND DID PLAY INTO THE SUCCESS. BUT DRUMMERS..GUITARISTS..BACK UP SINGERS & SONG WRITERS CAN BE REPLACED EASILY. WHEN THE BAND LOSES THE CORE OF IT( LEAD SINGER) THEN IT CHANGES THE SUCCESS. SO EVERYONE STILL IN THIS BAND SHOULD BE GRATEFUL & THANKFUL THAT THIS ARNEL GUY SAVED THE BAND GOING UNDER & DROWNING OUT TO NOTHING WITH SOME RANDOM SMUCK TRYING PLAY STEVE'S PART AS LEAD. FINDING ARNEL WAS A MIRACLE BECAUSE HE SOUNDS SO MUCH LIKE THE REAL DEAL OF JOURNEY. SO WITHOUT HIM THEY WOULD BE NO JOURNEY!😢
I am so sick of the drama and general revolving door of Journey. Pick a line up (in particular a drummer), learn to get along (Schon/Cain), move forward, or just hang it up. They are already their own best cover band without Perry.
@@rokkimason4199 He's 3 years older than Arnel. How many years do you think what voice he has will last doing the number of shows they do? I don't think he's that great, but that's just my personal opinion.
ARNEL IS A NICE GUY ACTUALLY HE WANTS TO QUIT BECAUSE HE EANTS TO BE WITH HIS FAMILY AND HOW THEY TREAT HIM BUT THEY DONT WANT TO LET HIM GO HE IS A GOOD EXAMPLE TO THEM THATS A FACT
I find it hilarious that Neil Schon, of all people, should accuse anyone else of being a narcissist. He burned out Gregg Rolie, then Steve Perry, then on and on and now he's frying the last hope Journey has, Arnel Pineda. All becayse he thinks lead singers are just like guitars and pianos - you drive them til they break and then just plug in another one. Everything is everybody else's fault. Allow me to rock your world, Neil - fans did not pack them in during the '80s til no one could move just to hear you play guitar. It's easy to see why he disliked Open Arms so much. It had no big guitar solo in the middle for him. Yet it brought the house down night after night.
When you listen to duets that people have put on UA-cam of steve and arnel, it’s hard to tell them apart if you’re not seeing who it is on vocals in that moment
Neal Schon is not an egomaniac but a Meglomaniac and is NOTHING without what's left of Journey himself as NO-ONE wants to work with him and his sh.tty attitude! Arnel NEVER claimed to be anything special though he saved Journey, is a class act and a humble man!
I can say with complete honesty that I've never paid for a concert ticket to see the musicians. Jimmy Buffett, Dave Matthews, Huey Lewis, Journey. I come for the singing, I come for the voice. Yet I know there are tons of guitar players better than Neal Schon.
You're mis-stating what went on with Arnel being upset. It occurred on Twitter/X, and I was there for what happened. Arnel mistook Neal's comment to be about him, but it was a statement in reference to someone who was trolling Neal. Don't mislead!
I think thats what happened too..regardless, arnel should have first confirmed with neil privately.the media is evil and consistently profit in destroying people, they know arnel's gonna open his mouth and say something weird like he's auditioning for brokeback mountain 2, And naturally that would piss off schon because arnel is getting in between the real serious drama of cain and schon. Arnel should have kept his mouth shut, because he is now wth Journey, Life in the Philippines is extremely hard for him to quit journey. Arnel should talk to the famous journey ex-member Carlos Santana,
You have got to realise that Neil Schon is just an absolute drama... Queen, he will be absolutely loving this, he doesn't need to portrait his ego, his guitar is more than adequate, by the way. Arnel is fantastic & probably the total polar opposite of Neil persona, long live the journey....?
They would be NOWHERE without Arnel. He saved the band. Schon has always been a narcissist. Why say that about Arnel? Arnel has been an absolute team player and sweetheart. This is so rediculous
Arnel has a great voice but just coats over the enunciation of the songs. Like when you forget the words to a song and you sound it out. He's just very good at it because Steve Perry has many songs where his powerful voice exults. The new singer is good at masquerading that. Steve Perry made Journey..., hence, the Journey you hear today is a good tribute band. A tribute to Steve Perry.
Stopped listening to Journey when Steve Perry was kicked out of the band for needing a hip surgery. A band without compassion says alot to me. They found a new guy that sounds a little like Steve Perry. They know that Steve made them the success they are. Hell I never heard of Journey until Steve was in the band. Todays Journey would be nothing if it wasn't for the replacement singer. In my book they wont ever be as big as they were with Steve in the band
I've been to a lot of journeys concerts. Neal has always been a piece of crap. He's a great guitar player, but when I saw him spit on a guy's chest that was just cheering them on, I have never went to another one of their concerts. As far as Arnel Pineda, without him, journey wouldn't be journey. Get real Neil. You're not all that and definitely not above anyone. You're just a human who has the opportunity to play for the band journey. Keep up the good work Arnel, but if I was you, I'd go to the band Chicago. They appreciate you much more.
Neal Schon's ego is crazy.Journey is nothing without Steve Perry,Arnel Pineda and other Journey vocalists. Just because you picked Arnel in the slums doesn't mean you have to belittle him.This ungrateful old man deserves what is happening to his band right now.
Neal Schon is quite the jack ass! He just can’t leave things alone! Seems he’s gone after everyone of his band mates. I know he’s a great guitar player, but, no one wants to play music, or be in the band with a constant pain in the ass!
Journey was dead and pretty much buried until Pineda came along. YES, Pineda owes a great deal to Journey. But Journey owes a great deal to Pineda as well. ALSO, don't know where any of them would be without Johnathan Cain. THE PROBLEM IS WITH NEAL'S PSYCHO WIFE. READ MORE AT THE LOWER PART OF THIS POST. OH... as for Ross and Steve. NEAL! YOU'RE A FOOL! My guitar hero but A F'ING FOOL! STEVE is the best drummer you've had and Ross...... Just say IT IS NOT THE SAME JOURNEY WITHOUT ROSS! As for Neal's issues. NOTE NONE OF THIS CRAP CAME ALONG UNTIL NEAL MARRIED THIS WOMAN HE'S MARRIED TO. she is a headcase. Banned from the Whitehouse, YES THE FRIGGIN WHITEHOUSE, for a stunt she and her ex-husband pulled sneaking into a Whitehouse dinner. I think she did it twice. BTW, she was having an affair with Neal while married to her ex. Neal is why they divorced. (My guess, when Neal isn't "Neal" anymore, she'll move on to someone else that is more in the limelight she desperately needs) If you've been to a show lately, SHE is the one on stage left creating a scene. Drawing attention to herself throwing out tees & sweatshirts and, as it was put in Blazing Saddles, making a spectacle of herself. ACTUALLY, if you happen to be on her side of the stage, she draws attention away from the show. Jus sayin'........
No Neal. Journey is nothing without Arnel. Without Arnel, Journey is a group of old goats. Neal, hang on to Arnel's coattails as long as you can or retire.
Facts- Journey went into the stratosphere when Steve " the voice" Perry joins the band and took them to a level they never knew before. Since Steve Perry left, Neal desperately needed to fill that magical voice and tone that all the songs and hits had to keep selling the band to all it's fans. Pineda, no disrespect, is a great karaoke singer at best. And does not have his own voice or "sound" like Perry has. Pineda has been in the band for almost 18 years and he's NEVER had one hit song because of his vocals. Steve Perry co wrote Wheel in the Sky in 1978, his first hit. And co-wrote Any Way You Want It / Don't Stop Believin'' / Faithfully / Lights / Loving Touching Squeezing / Open Arms / Send Her My Love / Stone In Love / When You Love A Woman / Who's Crying Now. within the next 10 years. Schon is a class A narcissist and is pussy-whipped by his gold digging wife. And lastly but not least, Steve Perry still is and will always be the "sound" of Journey.
When Perry left in 1998, people still listened to the radio. You could call in and request, which along with sales was how songs reached #1. No one listens to the radio anymore, no one calls in requests. I have to say, there are several Arnel songs I would call in to request if that were still a thing. I actually have enjoyed every album they cut with Arnel, whereas I was never a Journey fan at all before Arnel. You Perry Purists are delusional. You think Perry's voice is the same almost 25 years later? You think it would last through an 8 month tour? Not a chance in hell.
@@betsysimek8955 Facts - Steve Perry's voice is the "instrument" that made Journey who they were & are today since 1977, not Arnel's voice. And once Steve Perry was gone, Schon knew he had to get someone who sounded just like Steve Perry, where he found Steve Augeri in 1998. And after Augeri left in 2006, Neal Schon admitted that he searched the internet / UA-cam yet again to find another singer that could match Steve Perry's voice. And that singer happened to be Ariel Pineda, simply because he was in a Journey tribute band. And the ONLY reason Arnel got the gig in Journey, was because he could "imitate" Steve Perry. Not exactly, but close enough for Neal Schon. Sure, I'm a Steve Perry fan but I'm not delusional. Because I, unlike you, was lucky enough to see Steve Perry when he created all of their hits and he was in his "prime". And of course Steve's voice is not the same 25 years later. And there's nothing wrong with you liking Arnel. But, it's sad that were "never a fan" of Journey before Arnel. Because you have no idea who Arnel is trying to be and copy. Which is sad for Arnel, because his whole singing career is him trying to be someone else's voice, and not his own. And lastly, no one will remember Arnel Pineda once he leaves Journey. Because Steve Perry will always be remembered as the "voice and sound" of Journey forever. Even the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame agrees. Because it was Perry who was inducted, not Pineda.
How quickly he forgets? Journey wasn’t doing so good around the time of finding Arnel, and his entrance into the band was nothing short of spectacular! As he brought new life to the band and a new found love for Arnel’s story, so big they made a documentary about it, and now Neil is being a disgusting egotistical narcissistic loser!
Everyone os replaceable. Drum guitar and all. It wont be hard for anyone to play journey, but iy would be hard for them to find someone that resembles steve Perrys voice.
If Schon had taken a year off in 1987 he would probably still have Steve Perry. He is incapable of doing anything to benefit the others. He will burn himself out one day.
Come on, there are more who thought otherwise. If those whom you said can do it , why they don't let go of arnel? 😂 it's been 16 uears and they still earn a lot of money because of Arnel 😂
If Arnel should bow out,its been a good 16 years.I mean look,Schon did pick Pineda from a corner in Manila to legit rocker status.I think this was in Feb 2023.Nothing of this sort in 2024.
Bring back the old JOURNEY, Steve Perry, Steve-the-machine gun-Smith on Drums, Greg Rollie, Ross Valorie on Bass and Neal Schon on Lead Guitar, and Jonathan Cain also on Keyboards
Its very stupid of all stupids to say Arnel is nonody without Journey. The truth is the band was already over before they took Arnel Pineda. AP saved the band that's the truth. It's better and right to say without AP Journey will be nobody
Just because one is a 'founding' member of Journey doesn't equate with being "president of Journey". No one goes to concerts for the musical solos. Even Dave Matthews doesn't give his very talented group of musicians as much solo time as Schon gives himself. If Schon thought Perry was hard to replace, just try replacing Arnel. Derlatka's voice isn't strong enough, and Deen isn't a frontman, nor is he a ballad guy. And neither has the soul Schon said was so crucial - "tenor voice with soul". If not for finding Arnel 16 years ago, Journey would have faded into oblivion. He's made all of them a nice income for the last 16 years, Schon should just behave like a grown up and be thankful he's not a busker somewhere. (and keep the wives out of it. Did they learn nothing from the Beatles?)
Jonathan Cain's wife is Paula White trumps so-called "spiritual advisor" & I've heard she's part of the problem. Just heard Hugo Valinti and he's better than Arnel & Hugo is Perry's doppelganger Schon thought it'd be weird to have a look a like Steve Perry I think he made a mistake
No idea who is right or wrong. Jonathan Cain is a scumbag though - having nothing to do with his music. He should be removed purely based on those actions.
Why does Niel have to be a delusionally arrogant doooooosh? Journey would be nobodies without Steve Perry. Niel is a great guitarist but he is not in the same universe of ranking as Perry is for vocalist. Steve is a once in multi generations talent. The voice. The talent.The control. The range and the creativity. The consistency live on tour... Anyone with ears can tell. I would say 1 in a billion but his talnet surpassed that. You can't say that about any of the other members of Journey . Arnel is not Perry. Nobody is but he's by far the best you are gonna get. He has the talent and control and the consistency to not just cover it but sing it.. It's a miracle they found him and he developed to this level. Your not going to find that again. It would be much much much easier to find a band that Arnel could front to play Journey songs. If he did. He would kick thier ass in sales and attendance. That's just rhe hard truth of it. So sick of musicians acting like just being a vocalist isn't paying an instrument and that anything really conpares in popular music ...in general to average people ...than a really really really...good vocalist. Apparently Niel Shon is the epitome of that stupidity. That's a ahame. I ❤ his playing and Journeys music. It takes the right combination and the whole band but.. Steve Perry? Come on man.. You're telling me no other band could have ran with that? At what age does the ego weaken enough to not be delusional? Ziggy Starsust needs to be a little more Great full. Instead of full of himself and full of 💩. Journey had other singers try to fill those shoes. This second round of success came with Arnel. It would end without him.
Journey was good but with Arnel Journey is great. Sorry but I never took that much interest in Journey until Arnel became the lead singer. Arnel kept Journey alive without Arnel, Journey would still just be good. With Arnel Journey is amazing!!
🇵🇭 '77 growing up, all I know is Deep Purple, Led Zep, Black Sabbath, Johhny Winter, Shenker, 10 yrs after ..... As I grew older by 86, Im hitting off with a Lot of Slayer and Dave mustard nes Metallica, Anthrax at a Bootleg shop. Im old now, id go with Slipknot, Megadeth, Slayer
@@beatlegiancarlo28 they said the same thing about Perry. Funny how they just go on. It’s almost like they can get another quality singer without a problem.
@@salemamberglimpse3591 here’s. Direct quote from an article that can be found with a bare minimum of research. “Schon didn't stumble on him accidentally or get an e-mail from someone that said "You've got to see this guy!!!"; he found Pineda while specifically searching UA-cam for lead singers, because it's a not-unusual way to find musicians. Maybe he was even looking for lead singers doing Journey songs”
Journey would not have had as much commercial success in the 80s without Steve Perry. No one was listening for Neal's guitar. Yes Cain, Perry & Schon made a great songwriting team. But the vocals made the songs great! When they found Arnel, they were blessed with another opportunity for success from another beautiful voice. I watched the Arnel documentary when it first came out. As a die hard Perry fan I didn't want to like Arnel, wanted the endeavor to fail. I know shame on me. But I couldn't help but like Arnel. That voice is beautiful as well as Steve's. He seems like such a genuine & sweet person. Watching that documentary it seemed to me then that THEY were treating him like he was a prop or a roadie or an extra. Even then I thought this fella deserves better. I'm surprised he's lasted as long as he has. Neal & Jon wouldn't have had as much success in their continued touring without Arnel. ARNEL has kept the classic JOURNEY sound alive for the new generations. Journey wouldn't have still been as successfully touring today without Arnel. I'll gladly support any solo work or new band Arnel is with, he's truly gifted! I hope he gets away & finds success & happiness & APPRECIATION!!
Not accurate. Neal's a fantastic guitarist and a great soloist that fit in perfectly with their sound. He was as essential a part of Journey's sound as Steve Perry's vocals and Cain's songwriting ability. Neal has been, it also seems, the problem with Journey as he's been at the center of most of their drama. Not that Steve Perry's strong personality and drive to control more of their sound had nothing to do with him leaving, but Schon really needs to learn to get along with others. They're too old for all this BS, at this point. It's embarrassing.
The Zoo was shit. Give me a break
@@lf170 If he was so great, why did CBS threaten to drop them unless they found a vocalist and went in that direction.
INDEED! Both Steve and ARNEL made the Journey’s journey.When STEVE wasn’t there they didn’t have a tour til they found ARNEL.
Thank you for your appreciation to Arnel.. Our kababayan.. REALTALK. He just only a human and not an AI. GOD BLESS❤
And without Journey, Schon is just a guy who used to play guitar for Santana 50 years ago.
absolutely he's horrible
we wonder why Schon never recorded a solo album...
@@nitrofurano_he did
@@KarenFitzsimmons-g2l Really? Wheres your UA-cam channel and how many millions do you have?.....
❤Neal did record a great solo album;”Beyond the Thunder “
That's why Steve Perry said... he's in Arnel Peneda's side always. And he even asked Arnel if they're treating him bad with group.
Steve Perry put Journey on the map...Arnel Pineda saved Journey. The truth is, JOURNEY would be "nobody" without Perry and Pineda!
I won't argue that 😊
On that time when journey needed a frontman
Their last option is
Deen Castronovo
And bring smith back to the band
I agree neal schon without journey Arnel.pineda Nobody...
But in this case , Neal schon showing his truly dedication to music Nothing impossible for a filipino who become the Frontman of famous band Journey..
Arnel TOTALLY saved ZJourney! Their career was DEAD! Arnel was in a Journey Tribute band in the Philippines and they saw him and heard him sing and the rest is resurrection history! Journey should get on their knees and worship the ground this man walks on!
@@Grindday22 And without Herbie, Neal Schon would be the #2 guy with Santana. No way Deen can lead an entire show.
@@betsysimek8955 deen can't survive
Every night concert
Steve Perry made Neil Schon much richer than he would have been otherwise. I can name multiple guitarists as good and as creative as Schon. There is only one Voice.
There's really 2 voices. Arnel's voice is actually stronger than Steve Perry's. Jason Scheff saved Chicago, where many considered Cetera 'the voice'. I'll take Cetera over Perry any day of the week.
Its time Schon gets over himself. Hes in the middle of all Journeys problems. He had the nerve to say the band is better than theyve ever been. Really Neal ??
It’s an asshole thing to say but it doesn’t make it any less true lol .. there’s two other singers in the band who can sing the songs just as well.
@@Jihavoh777 Not really. Not for an entire 90/120 minute show. They're ALL getting older. Voices aren't what they were 20 years ago.
@@betsysimek8955They’re only doing 90 min shows these days. I saw them do 3 hours not that long ago. Deen is singing better than Steve Perry, Jeff Scott Soto, or Steve Augeri these days and prob on par with Arnel. Jason has a cleaner tone than all of them. Just sayin.
@@Jihavoh777 Schon wanted a tenor voice with soul. Neither Deen nor Jason have that. Donny Osmond can sing too, doesn't mean he can sing 'with soul'.
@@betsysimek8955 that’s just a matter of opinion. I love the way Deen sings. I can agree with your statement with Jason a bit, but when I saw them at the Aragon Ballroom Jason basically sang all the Raised on Radio tracks and it was the best I’ve heard those tracks sung live.
So in the past year where have the problems stemmed? Cane and Schon, Perry’s lawsuit against Schon, and then he attacks Arnel. I think the problem is not everyone else Neal
Dumb thing to say on Schon’s part. Journey is isn’t Journey without Arnel at the is point. They weren’t anything after Steve walked.
True.
Really Schone…Pineda is already popular & awarded in Asian country. If you haven’t discovered Pineda on UA-cam… where do you think Journey now? You may get another singer but will not attract crowd as much as Pineda became the front man. It added more crowd from Asian population especially Pilipino crowd.
You don't have to be Asian to love Arnel, Perry's voice might have made Journey but Arnels voice and energy saved Journey. Otherwise what you say is true in as much as Arnel is most probably the one band member who could make as much as he does touring with Journey by doing gigs and tv work by himself. Asia has many good singers but Arnel is in a league of his own when it comes to international stardom. The fact that Arnel has stayed with Journey for so long whilst already a very wealthy man shows me that regardless of the infighting, racist comments and gruelling touring schedule it is difficult to walk away from a dream that has come true. I loved Journey with Perry and just as much with Arnel. Schon should realise that Journey's journey will be over if Arnel leaves.
Pinoys loved Journey before He was hired as their singer
It NOW takes THREE (3) Singers onstage with JOURNEY ( Arnel Pineda, Deen Castronovo, and Jason Derlatka) to do what ONE STEVE PERRY accomplished!
Bravo 👏 Steve Perry for getting one of the greatest post band contracts in the history of music 🎶
If you notice, Schon doesn't sing much anymore. If anything, Jason is there so Neal doesn't have to pipe in at all. I've seen videos with SP where they have an extra voice - not even a musician, but just an extra voice, so don't bother going there.
@@betsysimek8955 Who are you arguing with yourself? Nobody is debating or arguing with you lol!
Journey WOULD NOT BEEN OR BE ANYTHING WITHOUT STEVE PERRY.
EVERYONE LOVES JOURNEY FOR STEVE PERRY'S AMAZING VOICE!!
HOWEVER YES THE BAND DID PLAY INTO THE SUCCESS.
BUT DRUMMERS..GUITARISTS..BACK UP SINGERS & SONG WRITERS CAN BE REPLACED EASILY.
WHEN THE BAND LOSES THE CORE OF IT( LEAD SINGER) THEN IT CHANGES THE SUCCESS.
SO EVERYONE STILL IN THIS BAND SHOULD BE GRATEFUL & THANKFUL THAT THIS ARNEL GUY SAVED THE BAND GOING UNDER & DROWNING OUT TO NOTHING WITH SOME RANDOM SMUCK TRYING PLAY STEVE'S PART AS LEAD.
FINDING ARNEL WAS A MIRACLE BECAUSE HE SOUNDS SO MUCH LIKE THE REAL DEAL OF JOURNEY.
SO WITHOUT HIM THEY WOULD BE NO JOURNEY!😢
I am so sick of the drama and general revolving door of Journey. Pick a line up (in particular a drummer), learn to get along (Schon/Cain), move forward, or just hang it up. They are already their own best cover band without Perry.
Journey is done without Arnel,
AGREED
Pineda was already a one in a million find. Does Schon think they can really find another one in a million vocal talent?
@@dannycostello3129 Dean could take over and be a singing drummer ala Don Henley and Levon Helm. Dean can hit all the notes and keep time.
@@rokkimason4199and it would be a very stagnant show. Pineda isn't just a voice, he's what brings their concerts to life.
@@rokkimason4199 He's 3 years older than Arnel. How many years do you think what voice he has will last doing the number of shows they do? I don't think he's that great, but that's just my personal opinion.
Arnel is amazing. I watched Journey's performance yesterday. Are you kidding he is AMAZING!
Thank you
Schon is a narcissist
No he's not....he's a total narcissist LOL, just saying lol! 👍🤣
Leave the philipeano guy alone … he has a great voice and he does his job. Does Neal do his job?
ARNEL IS A NICE GUY ACTUALLY HE WANTS TO QUIT BECAUSE HE EANTS TO BE WITH HIS FAMILY AND HOW THEY TREAT HIM BUT THEY DONT WANT TO LET HIM GO HE IS A GOOD EXAMPLE TO THEM THATS A FACT
He is good example? What?
I find it hilarious that Neil Schon, of all people, should accuse anyone else of being a narcissist. He burned out Gregg Rolie, then Steve Perry, then on and on and now he's frying the last hope Journey has, Arnel Pineda. All becayse he thinks lead singers are just like guitars and pianos - you drive them til they break and then just plug in another one. Everything is everybody else's fault. Allow me to rock your world, Neil - fans did not pack them in during the '80s til no one could move just to hear you play guitar. It's easy to see why he disliked Open Arms so much. It had no big guitar solo in the middle for him. Yet it brought the house down night after night.
When you listen to duets that people have put on UA-cam of steve and arnel, it’s hard to tell them apart if you’re not seeing who it is on vocals in that moment
And yet he held the band together for 17 years
Neal Schon is not an egomaniac but a Meglomaniac and is NOTHING without what's left of Journey himself as NO-ONE wants to work with him and his sh.tty attitude! Arnel NEVER claimed to be anything special though he saved Journey, is a class act and a humble man!
Neal Schon is the best thing about Journey... and the WORST thing about Journey.
lol you could be right
neil is a nobody
I can say with complete honesty that I've never paid for a concert ticket to see the musicians. Jimmy Buffett, Dave Matthews, Huey Lewis, Journey. I come for the singing, I come for the voice. Yet I know there are tons of guitar players better than Neal Schon.
@@KarenFitzsimmons-g2lcan you be more ignorant?
Neal is just a mean person , I would not pay to see Journey now, they need to dissolve the band so over the drama!
You're mis-stating what went on with Arnel being upset. It occurred on Twitter/X, and I was there for what happened. Arnel mistook Neal's comment to be about him, but it was a statement in reference to someone who was trolling Neal. Don't mislead!
I think thats what happened too..regardless, arnel should have first confirmed with neil privately.the media is evil and consistently profit in destroying people, they know arnel's gonna open his mouth and say something weird like he's auditioning for brokeback mountain 2, And naturally that would piss off schon because arnel is getting in between the real serious drama of cain and schon. Arnel should have kept his mouth shut, because he is now wth Journey, Life in the Philippines is extremely hard for him to quit journey. Arnel should talk to the famous journey ex-member Carlos Santana,
Schon is a nonstop egotist who needs to get over himself.
Journey became something when Steve joined and stopped being something when Steve left.
Arnel kicks ass
OLD NEWS! This was all settled 2 years ago and peace has been restored in the band!
Yet they are still in court. Get real.
Not true@@skeeterinnewjersey5256
Ojalá pudiera ser cierto.
And Neal Schon would be nobody without Steve Perry.
You have got to realise that Neil Schon is just an absolute drama... Queen, he will be absolutely loving this, he doesn't need to portrait his ego, his guitar is more than adequate, by the way. Arnel is fantastic & probably the total polar opposite of Neil persona, long live the journey....?
Schon just can't stay away from controversy, can he?
What does “Race” have to do with singing abilities? “NS” is full of himself. “Arnel” is an excellent singer
They would be NOWHERE without Arnel. He saved the band. Schon has always been a narcissist. Why say that about Arnel? Arnel has been an absolute team player and sweetheart. This is so rediculous
If arnel leaves where is journey at?
Deen and Jason can both sing just as well as Arnel. No one else needs to be added
@sterlingarcher9208do u think he can sustain his. voice and energy singng in 15 songs night after night
Hugo Valinti sounds & looks just like Steve Perry
Are you kidding??? What has Arnel wrote? He is only a hired singer!!
@sterlingarcher9208they shld have done that of that is true. 😂 Fact is journey lives because of arnel as the vocalist.
Journey is no body without Arnel today.
The drummer can sing better than Arnel.
u out of your kind sir@@thowell21
@@thowell21 LOL
@@thowell21 Bullshit
The narrator, has pronounced Pineda`s name several different ways. Only 1-2 x`s correctly.
😂😂 It sounds like Theo Von or an Ai generated Theo voiceover. That last name changed more times than the number of Journey front men 😂
journey would be nobody without perry and pineda
Neil has always found it hard to stay in his lane and is always creating drama and hard feelings!
These guys are all senior citizens. Time to stop the squabbling and make peace and compromise. Life is short. Man up.
oh my god, thank you, THANK you, THANK YOU for not saying, Neil "SHONE!!!" ... That ALON deserves millions of views, my friend!!! 😊
I see Neal Schon going back to Santana soon within a year after JOURNEY Ends Touring
Arnel has a great voice but just coats over the enunciation of the songs. Like when you forget the words to a song and you sound it out. He's just very good at it because Steve Perry has many songs where his powerful voice exults. The new singer is good at masquerading that. Steve Perry made Journey..., hence, the Journey you hear today is a good tribute band. A tribute to Steve Perry.
Give the guy a break.
Stopped listening to Journey when Steve Perry was kicked out of the band for needing a hip surgery. A band without compassion says alot to me. They found a new guy that sounds a little like Steve Perry. They know that Steve made them the success they are. Hell I never heard of Journey until Steve was in the band.
Todays Journey would be nothing if it wasn't for the replacement singer. In my book they wont ever be as big as they were with Steve in the band
I've been to a lot of journeys concerts. Neal has always been a piece of crap. He's a great guitar player, but when I saw him spit on a guy's chest that was just cheering them on, I have never went to another one of their concerts. As far as Arnel Pineda, without him, journey wouldn't be journey. Get real Neil. You're not all that and definitely not above anyone. You're just a human who has the opportunity to play for the band journey. Keep up the good work Arnel, but if I was you, I'd go to the band Chicago. They appreciate you much more.
Neal Schon's ego is crazy.Journey is nothing without Steve Perry,Arnel Pineda and other Journey vocalists. Just because you picked Arnel in the slums doesn't mean you have to belittle him.This ungrateful old man deserves what is happening to his band right now.
Neal Schon is nobody without Journey
What a nice human being this guy seems to be....
Neal Schon is quite the jack ass! He just can’t leave things alone! Seems he’s gone after everyone of his band mates. I know he’s a great guitar player, but, no one wants to play music, or be in the band with a constant pain in the ass!
Journey was dead and pretty much buried until Pineda came along. YES, Pineda owes a great deal to Journey. But Journey owes a great deal to Pineda as well. ALSO, don't know where any of them would be without Johnathan Cain. THE PROBLEM IS WITH NEAL'S PSYCHO WIFE. READ MORE AT THE LOWER PART OF THIS POST.
OH... as for Ross and Steve. NEAL! YOU'RE A FOOL! My guitar hero but A F'ING FOOL! STEVE is the best drummer you've had and Ross...... Just say IT IS NOT THE SAME JOURNEY WITHOUT ROSS!
As for Neal's issues. NOTE NONE OF THIS CRAP CAME ALONG UNTIL NEAL MARRIED THIS WOMAN HE'S MARRIED TO. she is a headcase. Banned from the Whitehouse, YES THE FRIGGIN WHITEHOUSE, for a stunt she and her ex-husband pulled sneaking into a Whitehouse dinner. I think she did it twice. BTW, she was having an affair with Neal while married to her ex. Neal is why they divorced. (My guess, when Neal isn't "Neal" anymore, she'll move on to someone else that is more in the limelight she desperately needs)
If you've been to a show lately, SHE is the one on stage left creating a scene. Drawing attention to herself throwing out tees & sweatshirts and, as it was put in Blazing Saddles, making a spectacle of herself. ACTUALLY, if you happen to be on her side of the stage, she draws attention away from the show.
Jus sayin'........
True…Neil wife left her husband because his business is going down…cannot afford her expensive social life… so she left him for Neil Schon.
Neal you wouldn't be where you are without Perry and Pineda..... Give it a rest Neal people are getting tired of your narcissistic crap.
Schon has been married numerous times times,says it all really
If they’re gonna get rid of Pineda, bring back Steve Augeri if Steve Perry won’t do it.
No Neal. Journey is nothing without Arnel. Without Arnel, Journey is a group of old goats. Neal, hang on to Arnel's coattails as long as you can or retire.
He's nobody without journey? There is no more journey, hasn't been a journey since perry left. Lame.
I will follow Pineda if he leaves Journey!! 🏃♂️
Facts- Journey went into the stratosphere when Steve " the voice" Perry joins the band and took them to a level they never knew before.
Since Steve Perry left, Neal desperately needed to fill that magical voice and tone that all the songs and hits had to keep selling the band to all it's fans.
Pineda, no disrespect, is a great karaoke singer at best. And does not have his own voice or "sound" like Perry has.
Pineda has been in the band for almost 18 years and he's NEVER had one hit song because of his vocals.
Steve Perry co wrote Wheel in the Sky in 1978, his first hit. And co-wrote Any Way You Want It / Don't Stop Believin'' / Faithfully / Lights / Loving Touching Squeezing / Open Arms / Send Her My Love / Stone In Love / When You Love A Woman / Who's Crying Now. within the next 10 years.
Schon is a class A narcissist and is pussy-whipped by his gold digging wife.
And lastly but not least, Steve Perry still is and will always be the "sound" of Journey.
When Perry left in 1998, people still listened to the radio. You could call in and request, which along with sales was how songs reached #1. No one listens to the radio anymore, no one calls in requests. I have to say, there are several Arnel songs I would call in to request if that were still a thing. I actually have enjoyed every album they cut with Arnel, whereas I was never a Journey fan at all before Arnel. You Perry Purists are delusional. You think Perry's voice is the same almost 25 years later? You think it would last through an 8 month tour? Not a chance in hell.
@@betsysimek8955 Facts - Steve Perry's voice is the "instrument" that made Journey who they were & are today since 1977, not Arnel's voice. And once Steve Perry was gone, Schon knew he had to get someone who sounded just like Steve Perry, where he found Steve Augeri in 1998. And after Augeri left in 2006, Neal Schon admitted that he searched the internet / UA-cam yet again to find another singer that could match Steve Perry's voice. And that singer happened to be Ariel Pineda, simply because he was in a Journey tribute band. And the ONLY reason Arnel got the gig in Journey, was because he could "imitate" Steve Perry. Not exactly, but close enough for Neal Schon.
Sure, I'm a Steve Perry fan but I'm not delusional. Because I, unlike you, was lucky enough to see Steve Perry when he created all of their hits and he was in his "prime".
And of course Steve's voice is not the same 25 years later.
And there's nothing wrong with you liking Arnel. But, it's sad that were "never a fan" of Journey before Arnel.
Because you have no idea who Arnel is trying to be and copy. Which is sad for Arnel, because his whole singing career is him trying to be someone else's voice, and not his own.
And lastly, no one will remember Arnel Pineda once he leaves Journey. Because Steve Perry will always be remembered as the "voice and sound" of Journey forever.
Even the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame agrees. Because it was Perry who was inducted, not Pineda.
If Schon said that, He's an A hole
Schon is just an angry old man because he looks like Greg "Johnny Bravo" Brady now. Journey couldn't recover from Perry leaving if Ariel didn't join.
this news is so freaking old, its irrelevant
Schon seems to he unstable. He seems to be the reason for all the drama.
Now imagine their band without Arnel😎😎😎
Arnel saveds journey
How quickly he forgets? Journey wasn’t doing so good around the time of finding Arnel, and his entrance into the band was nothing short of spectacular! As he brought new life to the band and a new found love for Arnel’s story, so big they made a documentary about it, and now Neil is being a disgusting egotistical narcissistic loser!
Everyone os replaceable. Drum guitar and all. It wont be hard for anyone to play journey, but iy would be hard for them to find someone that resembles steve Perrys voice.
They needed to take off a year and settle this mess. 😢
If Schon had taken a year off in 1987 he would probably still have Steve Perry. He is incapable of doing anything to benefit the others. He will burn himself out one day.
I like Deen’s vocals more than I do Arnel’s. Hopefully they’ll get their issues sorted out.
Come on, there are more who thought otherwise. If those whom you said can do it , why they don't let go of arnel? 😂 it's been 16 uears and they still earn a lot of money because of Arnel 😂
🇵🇭 Much more, Neal pushed for Arnel in the beginning when they couldn't find anybody.
I wonder why it's always Money that breaks band...
Neil Schon is nothing without Steve perry.
Neal whats up with the Paul Stanley plastic surgery. Just play the songs and enjoy the life. Its sad to see this ego/ greed shit.
If Arnel should bow out,its been a good 16 years.I mean look,Schon did pick Pineda from a corner in Manila to legit rocker status.I think this was in Feb 2023.Nothing of this sort in 2024.
Bring back the old JOURNEY, Steve Perry, Steve-the-machine gun-Smith on Drums, Greg Rollie, Ross Valorie on Bass and Neal Schon on Lead Guitar, and Jonathan Cain also on Keyboards
Their voice are now obsolete. They can never be back.
Not gonna happen!!
Schon is NOBODY without Pineta!!!
Why does this sound just like Theo Von?
Its very stupid of all stupids to say Arnel is nonody without Journey. The truth is the band was already over before they took Arnel Pineda. AP saved the band that's the truth. It's better and right to say without AP Journey will be nobody
Arnel Pineda saved Journey😮
Journey would be nothing without Arnel.
Neil has always been an ass. And the wives need to stay out of it. I love Arnel!
Every spoke in a wheel carries weight.
This video is an example of the flood of ai generated scripts and voice overs. UA-cam will drown in this AI bullshit.
I don’t care..I just ask..How much friggin money do they AND they’re lawyers need?🤦♂️
Not sure he don't need jounty they need him
And journey would be done without paneida
Your voice sounds like Theo von
Arnel isn't Steve. He is ok but..... nah retire now Journey. Stop trying to live in the past.
Nobody, NOBODY stepped in Steve's place to REPLICATE him. They were hired to sing the SONGS.
Just because one is a 'founding' member of Journey doesn't equate with being "president of Journey". No one goes to concerts for the musical solos. Even Dave Matthews doesn't give his very talented group of musicians as much solo time as Schon gives himself. If Schon thought Perry was hard to replace, just try replacing Arnel. Derlatka's voice isn't strong enough, and Deen isn't a frontman, nor is he a ballad guy. And neither has the soul Schon said was so crucial - "tenor voice with soul". If not for finding Arnel 16 years ago, Journey would have faded into oblivion. He's made all of them a nice income for the last 16 years, Schon should just behave like a grown up and be thankful he's not a busker somewhere. (and keep the wives out of it. Did they learn nothing from the Beatles?)
It's the constant drama that is Journey, with Perry, to Niel, or Smith and Valory...
It's because of that drama,
I stopped believing. 😢
When Neal got plastic surgery and married that blonde he changed big time. I think she brought out the worst in him. 😖
Don't blame Arnel Pineda, it is not his fault, he can find another job,
Jonathan Cain's wife is Paula White trumps so-called "spiritual advisor" & I've heard she's part of the problem. Just heard Hugo Valinti and he's better than Arnel & Hugo is Perry's doppelganger Schon thought it'd be weird to have a look a like Steve Perry I think he made a mistake
"The Love of money is the root of all evil"
Joey Belladonna is the only logical choice.....other than Steve Perry of course
😢😢😢😢
Is Theo Von narrating this video?
No idea who is right or wrong. Jonathan Cain is a scumbag though - having nothing to do with his music. He should be removed purely based on those actions.
Arnel performed with David Foster like only the best vocalist can. Suck it, Neil !!
hard to believe Schon is that "motivational".... :S
Why does Niel have to be a delusionally arrogant doooooosh?
Journey would be nobodies without Steve Perry.
Niel is a great guitarist but he is not in the same universe of ranking as Perry is for vocalist.
Steve is a once in multi generations talent.
The voice. The talent.The control. The range and the creativity. The consistency live on tour...
Anyone with ears can tell.
I would say 1 in a billion but his talnet surpassed that.
You can't say that about any of the other members of Journey .
Arnel is not Perry. Nobody is but he's by far the best you are gonna get.
He has the talent and control and the consistency to not just cover it but sing it..
It's a miracle they found him and he developed to this level.
Your not going to find that again.
It would be much much much easier to find a band that Arnel could front to play Journey songs.
If he did. He would kick thier ass in sales and attendance.
That's just rhe hard truth of it.
So sick of musicians acting like just being a vocalist isn't paying an instrument and that anything really conpares in popular music ...in general to average people ...than a really really really...good vocalist.
Apparently Niel Shon is the epitome of that stupidity.
That's a ahame.
I ❤ his playing and Journeys music.
It takes the right combination and the whole band but..
Steve Perry? Come on man..
You're telling me no other band could have ran with that?
At what age does the ego weaken enough to not be delusional?
Ziggy Starsust needs to be a little more Great full.
Instead of full of himself and full of 💩.
Journey had other singers try to fill those shoes.
This second round of success came with Arnel.
It would end without him.
Journey was good but with Arnel Journey is great. Sorry but I never took that much interest in Journey until Arnel became the lead singer. Arnel kept Journey alive without Arnel, Journey would still just be good. With Arnel Journey is amazing!!
🇵🇭 '77 growing up, all I know is Deep Purple, Led Zep, Black Sabbath, Johhny Winter, Shenker,
10 yrs after .....
As I grew older by 86, Im hitting off with a Lot of Slayer and Dave mustard nes Metallica, Anthrax at a Bootleg shop.
Im old now, id go with Slipknot, Megadeth, Slayer
This is a lie he came out to say this is fake news he never said that about Arnel
AI SUCKS
Let’s be honest. Arnel was singing karaoke before he was discovered. Neal might sound cruel if he said that - doesn’t mean he’s wrong.
But Journey without Arnel is just a bunch of backing musicians without a lead vocalist. Steve Perry left the band in 1986 or so.
@@beatlegiancarlo28 they said the same thing about Perry. Funny how they just go on. It’s almost like they can get another quality singer without a problem.
"Karaoke" did you know the guy deeply before your words?
@@salemamberglimpse3591 Neil Schon literally found him because he was singing karaoke on a UA-cam video.
@@salemamberglimpse3591 here’s. Direct quote from an article that can be found with a bare minimum of research. “Schon didn't stumble on him accidentally or get an e-mail from someone that said "You've got to see this guy!!!"; he found Pineda while specifically searching UA-cam for lead singers, because it's a not-unusual way to find musicians. Maybe he was even looking for lead singers doing Journey songs”
If it wasn’t for Arnel Neil wouldn’t be getting paid and having bad spending habits