Harley Davidson Single Fire Ignition Installation : Weekend Wrenching
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- Опубліковано 27 сер 2024
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Adding a single fire ignition to your motorcycle is a must do when adding cams a big bore or engine work. But it also a good upgrade for unmodified engines as well. It cleans up the idle, eliminates back fires allows you to adjust advance curves and rev limiters and improves the efficiency of your engine. The installation is basically the same for nose cone Shovelheads, big twin Evo's and Evolution Sportsters.
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Harley got smart and moved that plug for the timing marks to the same side as the ignition module. For years timing a Sportster was a two man job because the timing plug was on the other side. I was in the Philippines in 1990 when my ignition module on my '89 Sportster crapped out. Luckily I had a set of Chevy Blue Streak points laying around. Had to go Old School and run points. I never did change back to electronic. Always kept a spare set of points and an emory board in my tool pouch.
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eye put an ultima single fire electronic ignition on my ironhead like 4yrs ago & havnt had to touch it since.
highly recommend!
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Great video as always. I just put the dynatec module in my 03 883H that came in my hammer 1275 kit. I used how to videos as a guide, it was pretty easy and my bike runs great. My icm was failing and the bike would stop running after it reached full temp and backfire. Wouldn't restart until cool. I used a hairdryer on it to diagnose. It would stall Everytime I put heat to it. Can't wait to finish the big bore kit in the spring.
Did you get single for or dual fire?
@@MiguelAngel-bi9qy I used the dual fire, same as factory. Most of what I got out of researching single fire was that there wasn't much to gain.
You nailed it.always appreciate some what is now called old school. Time is flying. Thank you.
I’m going to inherit a Sportster with a bad history of ignition issues. My first change will be to add this System.
I wanted to hear it run and how it sounds at idle and if it pings or hesitates!
Thank you have a great day... You answered what I needed to know 😊
Thanks, much appreciated the info 👍👍
Great video as usual.
Great video. The procedure is identical to that of the Powerhouse Plus, which is made by Twin Tec. I do have a couple of questions though. I put mine on a 1997 Heritage Springer. The instructions say you don't have to remove the factory ignition module (under the seat). I did however unplug it. I unpinned the violet/white VOS wire to connect to the same wire of my Powerhouse Plus. The instructions didn't mention getting 12v power from another source in those words, but it did say connect to the white/black wire from the kill switch with the white/black of the module. One of the two old wires I disconnected from the old coil is white/black. I'm assuming I can use that white/black wire with the white/black wire of my new module on the center post for 12v power and delete the old pink wire. Last thing mentioned in the instructions was to replace the plug wires with spiral core wires. Will any newer model HD wires work, like the Phat Spark plug wires?
I just acquired a 95 sportster 883XL deluxe and it has the 53-644 ignition module but has a dual fire coil, can it still work with this or does it have to be a single fire coil? The bike cranks and gets gas just wont start and run not even with starter fluid, any help is appreciated!
Had my evo die on me whilst riding and would not restart had to be recovered,I’ve been thru ultimate ignition system once already so would it helpful to put thermoplaste on back of module to help protect from nose cone heat?
Great video, thanks for sharing. Cheers
New fan / sub . Great video on point to a professional level
How I hook up a dual fire two wires set up to single coil with 3 studs ....I only have 1 pink an 2 white together
The stock ignition system is a "waste spark" ignition system.
Correct
I bought a 92 sportster 883 with nothing done to it except for aftermarket pipes (14,800+ miles) earlier this year and I sometimes notice a cough in it usually upon acceleration. I am going to look into this system before spring time. (It's cold now in Metro Detroit)
had this same issue with my 883c.
turns out the carb was running lean.
Hey Patrick awesome video as always. Anyway you can work on my stock 2018 breakout ? There is nothing wrong with it but something tell me you can mod it out nicely 😉
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please help friend. what is this wire?
When I removed the tank I found it already disconnected. I didn't understand where he came from.
How come you can’t use the old plug under bike ?
It is set up to feed a dual fire coil, a single fire coil is basically 2 coils in one. The stock wiring isn't set up for it.
@@jpcycles that makes sense, just bypass that part of the old harness.
I just put in my 76 shovel what advantages will i get if i put a voe vacuum switch in
You only static timed the ignition and what about multi-spark on the 1005 ?
Can I install the ignition module without having to change out the coil for a 2002 Sportster 883 Hugger?
I have a system like that on my 93 883 hugger that I just purchased. Bike ran great idled nice and suddenly one day it just would not start. No spark at the plugs. I thought the coil was fried so I installed a new one. still no spark. It is a single fire coil. I do see the small red light flashing on the module in the nose cone. I see there is some sort of module attached to the frame under the seat. I assume thats the stock ignition module. it seemed to me based on your video you unplugged the original module and cut and removed the wires and original module from the nose cone. I looked as though you did not hook the wires from the new module back up to the the plug under the bike. You went straight to the other side and on to the coil. The question I have is does the ignition system still use the module under the seat or would the single fire module in the nose cone bypass that completely.
Hey brother what do you think I should put the settings to on a 1992 Harley-Davidson softail heritage classic stock motor
Hello! could you help me? I have a question: how many amps should a connector support that I will use to install the new connection on the VOES and TACH wires on an EVO 1340? thanks!
Can you eliminate the VOES with that ignition?
Ive fitted this model to my 99 1200 sportster and cannot get a spark when i crank the engine the red light flashes a few times the goes out til i start cranking again the it does the same thing. all wiring checks out ,coil checks out ok . i have taken the VOES of (it a chop with motogadget wiring) the voes wire is just taped up! have got a faulty unit?
Just installed this Ignition Module and new coil on my 2003 Sportster. when I powered up the red light flashed once and went out. turning ignition mod the light does not come on at all. Any suggestions ?
Appreciate the tutorials. When I attempted to order the model shown at JP online it showed not compatible with 2002 883. Is this because it's a conversion to single fire from dual fire? Also does the old harness (ign. module) become irrelevant with the new direct wiring to single fire coil?
Thank you so much for this video. Not allot of info on ignition modules and this helped me understand a ton. Btw, what to you guys do with the plug under the bike that is no longer used?
You can cut it out of the harness or just tape it up. Its a dead end at this point.
@@jpcycles Perfect, thank you very much for the reply, happy holidays!
I really appreciate your video it helped out a lot I'm currently trying to rewire my bike and I'm trying to figure out how to wire my ignition to coil. I have a two terminal duel fire ignition ( i believe). My question is the wire diagram says one wire to ignition but does it mean just a 12 volt constant source like trying into the power on switch on the handle bars? Because when I think ignition I think the start button but that will only have power wire starting the engine? Thanks
You need a better understanding for the terms because I think 12v constant source as battery feed - something that has 12v constantly (at all times). Ignition refers to the igniting of fuel, the ignition switch switches that on or off. If, on a motorcycle, your ignition switch activates the starter that's quite interesting - most bikes have the start button separate from the ignition switch/key.
I got. Evo an I like points
I had the Ultima single fire ignition system put in by a shop and my bike backfires and sounds like a shotgun through the carb with the engine off by turning the key on it fires one time when it gets powered and it ignites any fuel that is left in the cylinder always the front cylinder. Could you go a little more in-depth on the purple wire to the voes something's not wired right and I'm scared it's going to blow my bike to smithereens.
It sounds like the bike is timed incorrectly.
It's the Bank Angel switch , replace that and she will fire up
Do the cylinders fire 45 degrees apart? Do they use a waste spark system? Thanks for your help.
The firing interval is 315° and 405° and the dual fire is a waste spark system, single fire is not.
@@killer2600 Thanks for the info.
Hey, were did the wire from the ignition come from that went to the middle post on the coil?
We used a switched 12v wire from our key switch. Any switched 12v wire will work.
Do you guys have something for a 2006 883xl ?
Do you have to be at TDC to adjust the slop?
Slop? The status light on/off? Yes, you need to be at TDC because you are setting the timing. It's not much different than setting the timing on points using a continuity light.
Will it work on a 2001 carburated Buell M2? Anybody?
Does this delete the voes?
We did on our bike, the system will work with or without VOES if you choose to use it.
both spark plug igniting at the same time is what give Harleys their distinctive potato sound without it you'd just have a pota sound
So twin cams and beyond don't have that harley sound?
@@killer2600 the old Harley sound, no they don't
what year? thumbs down.
Invite them to prison, when they get there 🔐 up and throw the key into the ocean
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