do revenge is the teen movie i've been waiting for 🎾📱🦎
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- Опубліковано 19 вер 2022
- the teen movie has fallen quite far since its glory days in the 80s and 90s and with films like he's all that, the craft legacy, and the kissing booth, i'd almost given up hope on the genre entirely. so imagine my surprise when i sat down to watch netflix's do revenge and found myself actively enjoying it. starring camila mendes from riverdale and maya hawke from stranger things, the dark comedy is a love letter to the teen films that came before it. what did you think of do revenge?
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I REALLY liked that Drea knew immediately that Max leaked the video and there was no ambiguity introduced by her losing her phone or something. To me, that felt much much more true to life-you know what happened, there’s really only one possibility, and no one believes you anyway.
This!!
I actually sort of agree. In my life, I've seen people believe men's completely unbelievable stories, or indeed lack of stories, justifying their actions, over women's accusations. It's more comfortable for them to believe the higher status person, usually the man, rather than analyzing the facts and determining who and what to believe.
yes! in my interpretation, drea not thinking of the other girls (the ones she's been in a dispute with ) as the culprits makes sense to me because they're also women - the conflict between the girls is still there but it will never get to the point of doing that kind of thing with each other, bc drea clings on to this hope that no girl would stoop this low.
🙌🏿🙌🏿🙌🏿🙌🏿
True! I think watching women gaslight themselves has been done and seeing her trust her instincts and believe herself despite the reactions of others was refreshing and felt deeply healing as someone who didn't stick up for myself in this way 💕
i wasn’t expecting do revenge to be as good as it was. the plot twist was the first good plot twist I’ve seen in a long time, i was not expecting that. the fashion was outstanding and the chemistry between camila and maya was excellent
Chu, your mind....🤩
Likewise, the plot twist was clever, in that we genuinely didn't see it coming. Camila and Maya should really team up for more movies together.
i was not feeling the fashion at all. they’re supposed yo be in high school i feel like the clothes would’ve been better in a college setting
i love your pfp. i’m gonna go listen to magdalene actually
I wasn't expecting them to cast the most beautiful people to exist in young hollywood, but here we are. Also, Sarah Michelle Gellar was iconic and honestly the way the mains talked about her was fantastic.
I really liked how this movie wasn't afraid to go for it in terms of costuming and art direction, it was exactly how I hoped the Winx saga would've turned out if they hadn't removed the vibrant colors and costumes in order to be taken more "seriously."
Precisely, the costumers really understood their characters, as well as the meanings behind their outfits. This really helps to elevate the story, and to bring the characters to life through their sense of style.
i totally agree with you. They can even go overboard with the costuming, but they can start from this film!
Yes!!!
so true
Oh shit! I was thinking that the whole movie
I actually *really* liked that the hetero and gay leads were portrayed as so platonically intimate without ending up together. I personally think it’s one of those things we maybe don’t see enough of? Especially in how wlw are written, Eleanor is smitten with Drea without actually falling for her, and so often these relationships are portrayed unfavorably where the wlw ends up rejected/cast out/ridiculed for flying too close to the sun (or whateva). Or the opposite happens where the straight girl realizes she’s been gay all along, which is fine as a trope but I think it’s a bit played out by now. So their friendship was really refreshing to me.
As somebody who has a very intense platonic relationship with their best friend, the way Drea and Eleanor’s friendship was portrayed made me realky happy
Kinda like sisterhood? :0
Yess and by the end I think drea is as smitten with Eleanor as Eleanor is with drea!
I still wanted them to end up together though lol but I see what you mean
Exactly! Even if they have this extreme chemistry, they are very well written as just bestfriends. Which is indeed refreshing in a teen drama with queer character
YES!! seeing them just being physically affectionate without taking it in a romantic direction was SO refreshing to see
everything about this movie actually surprised me and you can tell it’s a love letter to the iconic teen movies of the early 2000s
Also a love letter to some of 1980s revenge stories (heathers, jawbreaker, mean girls, etc!)
@@strawberry5458 jawbreaker and mean girls are actually 90s and 00s respectively but yes!
Exactly, I love how it subtly pays homage to iconic teen movies, while not trying to copy them too much, and mostly doing its own thing. It's all the better for it.
the euphoria i felt as soon as i realized that max's downfall mirrored kathryn's from cruel intentions (even switching out "bittersweet symphony" for the equally as iconic "praise you") was incomparable! my friend was playing his switch on the couch beside me as i watched and i ended up squealing, "THAT'S why they had SMG play the headmaster!!!"
@@anishinaabae Love the pfp
I cannot get over the fact that she hit Drea with a car and they still end up being friends ???
right! like i don’t like how they drove off into the sunset, they should just have mutual respect for each other at the end but not hugging and hanging out. i just couldn’t forgive that
Fucked up soulmates 😭😭😭
SAME, i don't like her she is a psycho
And Drea literally drugged a whole school class with no consequences whatsoever
RIGHT!! I THOUGHT I WAS THE ONLY ONE WHO GOT A LIL BIT DISSAPOINTED WITH THAT! LIKE HECK, I'LL NEVER FORGIVE SOMEONE WHO HAD THE AGENDA OF KILLING ME!
I hope y’all don’t sleep on the REAL star and style icon of the movie: Oscar Winner Olivia Coleman the bearded dragon and her little outfits she wore in every scene she was in, most of which matched with Eleanor’s 😂
I was shocked they managed to cast her 🦎😍
Definitely the main character
and she has her own bathtub!
I want to believe it was a reference to Pascal from Tangled :D
Honestly she was serving look after look 💅
the fact that their characters were born in 2004/2005 is so funny to me
if you think about it, 04 liners are technically adults so 🙁
And they’d be “disciples of the 90s teen movie”
Wowwww I feel myself withering away as if dusted by Thanos hearing stuff like that.
@@barbiegirl8040 They're still teenagers
THEY'RE MY AGE?? I mean it makes sense but I totally forgot those so-called teens in this time are in the same gen as me. I mean the most popular movies ones they're like 20-40 now..
Genuinely surpised that we're still capable of teen movies like this.
I was just surprised it was on Netflix
@@kgal1298 cus Netflix is dying and realizing they actually have to put out good movies for people to watch them
It's a bad movie
No it’s not. Lol
lol, go watch american pie. THIS IS SHIT
i really loved your point about the antagonist max’s character being fake woke to fit an agenda. i dated a guy years ago who was very well liked and trusted by people. he said all the right things to seem sensitive, foreward thinking, etc. he turned out to be super emotionally and sexually abusive to multiple women, myself included. i feel like in movies and tv, these types of characters often get portrayed as hyper masculine and stupid. but nefarious men of the modern era are often calculated wolves in sheep’s clothing.
I don’t know if this is what the casting directors intended but it feels like the casting choices for Promising Young Women. Taking celebs who are famous for playing nice guys and using that to thwart audience expectations. Although in this case, it was pretty easy to see what a smarmy jerk Max is even as a fellow Ethan/Austin Abrahams fan.
@@alyssapinon9670 It absolutely was. All the people picked to be antagonists already come from beloved characters or are loved as people.That helped hiding the twists and overlooking some red flags with some characters (I'm really trying not to spoil anything here)
this, plus mines name was Max so seeing him go down was a lil satisfying loooool
@@LeaveBritneyalone580 omg I didn’t think of it that way!
More spoilers ahead lol
Plus I think the movie did a great job of using the mousy tomboy trope to their advantage to give us a false sense of security.
Maybe it’s just me but the Models Suck shirt she wore could have been foreshadowing about her character. Seeming feminist but actually more malicious
Nefarious men of all eras are wolves in sheep’s clothing. In the past they’d pretend to be more conservative, and “traditional” and masculine to convey an idea that they’d be providers and protectors. Most were not. Now they pretend to be more woke to convey an idea of being great Allie’s and true “partners.” They are not.
the plot twist genuinely shocked me it thought she would just end up ditching drea for the popular group but was thoroughly suprised
Lol was waiting for them to kill max in the end like bury him in that garden HAHA
@Ks i was waiting for them to push him into the fire during his reveal
@@zimzalabitch9029 same I already imagined a campy decapitated head or chopped limbs
@@mareuzsaguiguit7550 me too and i would have lived honestly
@Ks yeah I really thought someone was gonna die in this movie given how to the trailer is giving me heathers vibes
Sophie tuner scenes were probably my favorite scenes in the movie especially the scene where she accused of drugs
I was hollering 🤣🤣🤣. "I don't do coccciiaa**!!"
I wasn't even expecting her in this film like,
"Wait, is that sophie turner?"😳
I googled it right after 😁
@@heartsandpearls239 I keep laughing everytime
I DONT EVEN KNOW WHAT IT LOOOKS LOIKE!!!
@@MrTwentington that bit was so funny like i kinda felt bad for her skdjs
It was so fun and campy. It's a looong time since a good teen movie has been released.
Also glad for Camila Mendes who showed she's a stellar actress that is just stuck with a terrible script on Riverdale. Everyone should have known this before as only a select few can say those lines with complete seriousness
I was thinking the SAME thing!
Exactly I’m so glad that Riverdale is ending with Season 7!! They can finally leave the show and the cast can get better roles!!
Girl same! The movie wasn't that good in my opinion although for a teen movie it was very entertaining and very surprising at times.
But holy hell Camila Mendes was goooood! I've watched all on Riverdale and always thoguht she was the "worst" actress out of the main cast (I honestly think they are all very good just stuck with a bad show). But Cami in Do Revenge was on a whole different level, I couldn't keep my eyes off of her.
@@TheRikkuShak and shes fucking hilarious! She knows how to do dry humour perfectly. I'd fricken sue riverdale if i were her. they've taught people shes an awful actor, when its just an awful show.
If you'll have time, I'm recommending you to watch Honor Society, I feel something alike in this movies, but in a good way.
i also thought the girls had great chemistry but I vibed with them being friends more too, like I never felt it was romantic.
getting a healthy female friendship (of sorts) was refreshing - and the fact that both of them got who they wanted in the end was a win for the whole movie
As a lesbian I really enjoy seeing purely platonic friendships between a lesbian and another woman, especially with them being close and physically affectionate. There's usually a stigma that isolates queer women because of this idea that lesbians are always attracted to the women in their lives, so it's nice to see that dismantled.
@@katybcat8286 yes exactly it was really nice
I know that things don't have to be realistic in this film but I love how Drea's eligibility to Yale makes more sense than bland MCs going to Yale in teen dramas after like one inspiring essay. She's a large public figure who has built a pretty good socialite reputation for herself and I could definitely see her being accepted into a prestigious school like that.
Yes that’s my biggest pet peeve, when protagonists who are set up to be pretty average and also are always shown going out with friends and taking spontaneous trips or whatever and never shown doing homework or stressing over tests somehow pull out their acceptance letters in the third act like “yay I got into Yale, Princeton, and UCLA :)” like HOW??? YOU DONT STUDY! PEOPLE WHO SPEND THEIR LIVES AGONIZING OVER MINUTE PERCENTAGES OF THEIR GPA HAVE TO DEDICATE HUNDREDS OF HOURS TO THEIR APPLICATIONS AND WEVE NEVER EVEN SEEN YOU LOOK AT AN EXTRACURRICULAR RANDOM ROM-COM PROTAGONIST
making it even more realistic are her grades dropping from her focusing on revenge the entire year
i’ve been waiting for this. i’m absolutely obsessed with this movie. it’s writing?? fashion?? the cast?? it’s so good
I am too! and I don’t think it’s an obsession that’s going anywhere anytime soon
AGREE
The songs too..
Literally the best film I’ve seen in years I’m so excited
One thing I noticed and really liked about the movie were the colors. Drea most often wore pinkish/warm colors while Eleanor wore blueish/cold ones. However, when doing each others revenge they would often flip their colors. When Drea was still "famous" she wore the purple version of the school uniform but later switched to the mint one, while Eleanor gets dressed up into the purple one. At the turning point, when Eleanor lies and reveals her "true colors" she does it literally by wearing the blue jacket (that Drea comments on). It goes for their surroundings as well. For example Dreas bedroom was mostly pink, however, in the scene where she was confiding in Eleanor and getting emotionally supported by her, she was covered by a blue blanket. The bathroom they first met in was a combination of blue and pink as well.
This comment is everything I signed up for on the internet. I love when other people overanalyze small details in movies. Small things like these make sense in the bigger picture. Thank you for being so observant, that's a super rare quality nowadays. 💕
I love how the plot twist changed the characters dynamics but not the characters, Nora didn’t just flip a switch and turn evil and neither did Dreia. And they both acknowledged and apologized for what happened.
I'd love a teen movie focused on Black girls, not from the hood and not wealthy. Navigating our relationships and our Blackness but not making being Black the primary focus especially not focusing on yt and racism though that cannot be avoided fully.
As someone from the other side of the world who only knows black people a *type of way* that they are portrayed in both Hollywood and some black media (Living Single) I am also curious and yearning for a film like that
Honestly! Like how come this hasn’t been made yet. Like movies like ~after~ are getting made…. Kinda a waste of money/ a budget for the amount of movies of this series made.
same like i just want a regular ass teen movie with black leads that has nothing to do with being in the hood or anything
Well, that's the way USA portrays their black people. If u watch an european movie they act like normal people and don't dress tacky
@@loveydovey3631 agree I think black girls need to watch more movies outside of the US and you’ll find better black girl leads. My sister and I have been watching more of those instead of US shows. Surprisingly Netherlandish and Dutch have portray us normally and desired it’s nice
SPOILER
My favorite part of the reveal is how Drea initially struggles to remember who Eleanor / Nora is. In my personal experience, it's so realistic. Bullies always forget, victims never do.
YES! Like if I went through all that and THEN told the story verbatim to the one who did that to me…. I would’ve gone mad too. Dang. Especially because they had a semi stable friendship in a school surrounded by fake people.
Like the infinity war meme that goes “you took everything from me” “I don’t even know who you are”
Yep had this happen to me, in my old school a girl used to always laugh at me Cus I had the whole scene hair, now I look normal, and the girl reached out to me asking to do my makeup to help her start up her freelance career, I told her it’s me, and she said she genuinely didn’t even remember or recognise me, keep in mind she would pick on pretty much everyone who looked out of the normal, it was a really weird experience
@@elliezzz7812 That's normal, kids are just stupid and can be really mean
@@elliezzz7812 Same! I was bullied so bad that I had to switch to virtual school but when i came back two years later the guys who shoved me against lockers and threatened me asked me out. It was genuinely mind blowing that they didn’t recognize me
I loved that you can see the difference in Eleanor's wardrobe clearly when she is dressed by Drea and when she'd tried to dress herself with her new clothes.
The twist saved this film but I honestly think the reason it works is because literally every character was played by GOOD actors. Even the supporting cast. They elevated the cheesy dialogue and made it believable and bearable.
A lot of the cast are also from popular teen shows, Camila (Riverdale), Maya (Stranger Things), Austin (Euphoria), Alisha (13 Reasons why), Ava (Love Simmon) and Maia (Pretty Little Liars: Original sin). It could be totally unrelated or just genius casting!
And Rish Shah (Russ) from Ms Marvel
It really did feel like The Avengers of teen shows
Don't forget Jonathan Daviss from Outer Banks. It was honestly so much fun seeing so many actors who made it big on streaming shows come together in a movie. I want more of this!
also, max from dash and lily WHICH IS MUST WATXH SHOW its super cute to watch when you’re in a festive mood or wanna celebrate the oncoming of fall
Well, they need to have a good CV to be casted in these types of movies
after watching the movie my immediate thought was "tessa from moderngurlz is going to absolutely love this"
One REALLY obscure book I read when I was younger that I think would make a GREAT Teen show/movie is a book called "Getting Revenge on Lauren Wood". It's basically about these two junior high best friends, one of them betrays the other, which causes the other girl to become ostracized by her peers. She eventually moves away, and the betrayer grows up to be the most popular girl at her high school. The OTHER girl eventually returns, with a new look and name, and vows to destroy her old best friend's life.
Omg I remember that book, wow u unlocked my memory
Omg I would love seeing this as a movie
so it's basically the classic french book comte de Monte Cristo but in highschool format? the person ostracized comes back after having disappeared for years to haunt and ruin the lives of those who ostracized him for no reason?
there's already a movie with a similar premise, it's called "slap her, she's french!" or "she gets what she wants". give it a watch!
OMFG THAT'S MY FAVORITE BOOK
*SPOILERS*
I've found online that a lot of people were surprised that this movie was actually able to trick them by delivering on the plot twist. That marks a good movie and good acting! I recently saw a TikTok of Maya Hawke saying she studied male roles because women often aren't casted as likable villains / these roles don't exist for women. Because her character was likeable and relatable and was then revealed to be coming, the plot twist was shocking!
I did find that the ending (being tied up in a perfect bow) undermined the movie. I would've they rather didn't end up with their romantic interests. They did bad things, and although they regretted them, were seemingly rewarded.
I overall did love how campy this movie was compared to modern teen movies and the references to cult classics!
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I also couldn't tell who Eleanor really was. Is she the "sloppy", grunge girl at the beginning or the stylish, preppy blonde she ends up as? Was the girl at the beginning her character?
@@Hippolyta. I think style wise it didn’t really matter. She was a girl who was miserable so I think she just didn’t care about whatever she had on. Cause when Drea is helping her with outfits she’s clearly uncomfortable with the new looks but she says during the swimsuit scene she just hasn’t worn stuff that in a long time so maybe she was just uncomfy cause she’s wasn’t used to the clothes and not really because of it wasn’t her style. AND ALSO maybe after being around Drea so much she just got used to the outfits
I agree, they shouldn't have had their romantic endings
i agree they shouldnt have ended with their romantic interests and if the movie wanted a redeeming ending it woudlve been nicer to see Drea get into Yale, like she always wanted to do that, and she just gives up and no longer cares about it and has a complete 360 personality change which isnt even great??
I knew the romantic endings were coming no matter what and that's what I was waiting for but yes the girls f'd up so bad it is soooo unrealistic that their love interests would just forgive them like that 😭 still it's a teen movie and what else would I expect right overall 10/10
I do hope we end up getting a style/costume review for this movie, the outfits are so pretty.
The uniform tho like they're so pretty
Yes yes yes!
This and promising young woman are prime examples of how you can still youse bright colors and pastels even when having a darker or serious tone. Looking at you fate the winx saga
I’ve only really seen camila in riverdale where the script has her speak in a really weird way, but I’m so glad that when I see her now the first thing I think is this movie and not riverdale, she literally had me laughing my ass off 😭
Camila is the reason why I watch Riverdale lol, Veronica is a fun to watch character.
@@CrisOnTheInternet true her and maybe cheryl were the only reasons i got through riverdale
@@CrisOnTheInternet Same I’m only watching Riverdale because of Camila Mendes!! She is my role model!! Tbh I’m gonna be glad when Riverdale ends with Season 7 next year so that the cast can move on to better roles!!
Riverdale made me love Camila even more because only SHE can say all those weird and stupid lines in such a believable way, If Veronica was played by anyone else it would get annoying very quickly.
I feel like the big fix for this movie honestly would’ve been not letting the girls get back with their love interests. Losing them should’ve been the consequences of their actions, and I think it would’ve read better if by the end it’s just the two of them stuck in their messy, toxic, wonderful friendship for better or worse.
Yeah I like to think that their actions should have been exposed too, making their friendship make more sense because they are the only thing they have left. Drea drugged her entire grade, framed someone for having drugs and ruined her life, exposed a bunch of girls' private texts, and Eleanor ran her over with a car and lied to her for over half the movie. Honestly the only other character whose actions were worse was Max, and I think the irony of that would have been more highlighted if the two MC's also lost everything. Like, a bittersweet end that fits a satirical and bittersweet movie
I wish they left town with Olivia Coleman and became con artists for the sequel Do Crime… they have amazing chemistry, I want to see where this twisted little friendship goes
@@prairielily08 *Oscar Winner Olivia Colman AKA the best character
@@prairielily08 that is a brilliant ideia btw the netflix sequel that we need
Yeah I agree but to be fair noras love interest for the most of the film seemed to dislike her brother so it did sortaaaaaishmaybe make sense, but for the other guy with the blue hair I didn’t think made sense at all, he cared so much about the gardening girl and the riverdale girl seemed(felt like) she was very rude/mean to him especially the bed scene but then again she’s supposed to be a sociopath so I could see the argument for her manipulating/taking advantage of his good nature, I think in concept I liked the idea of not having the girls completely do the stereotype of finding empowerment and then cutting off all there love interests in favour for there friendship, butttt it is quite overplayed and for this movie it didn’t make much sense for the most part
The plot was so unexpected! Netflix really outdid itself. I wasn’t expecting it to be that good but i was pleasantly surprised
I actually thought it was ambiguous that Max leaked the photos in the beginning. Austin Abrams played that scene so sincerely while his friend laughed in the background. I thought the friend leaked the photos and that the twist would be that they got revenge on him for no reason (similar to how the plot played out for Clarissa) He plays such sweet characters in Euphoria, My Chemical Heart, and Dash and Lily that aside from very obviously being guilty of being a dick I thought he might be innocent. When Eleanor said there's no proof she was right
I'm glad it's not just me! I actually thought it was done perfectly, it was only stated explicitly that he did it right at the end so I spent a lot of the film with just enough reasonable doubt that I genuinely didn't know what to think. for me, that made the whole experience even better, cause it shows how insidious he is as a villain that even I as the viewer had moments of genuine doubt.
I think that may have been intentional, too. Choosing an actor who only plays sweet guys makes the audience more likely to believe him.
i also thought it was ambiguous until his sister confirmed it which i thought was a weird choice
Brutal by Olivia Rodrigo has been in almost every movie targeting Gen Z since its release and im here for it.
I’d love a full costume breakdown of this movie. Like one of my favorite details is when Drea comes back to school and she’s wearing her sweater tied loosely on her shoulders and Tara is wearing a cape. It’s Drea imitating a stereotypical prep look but the slight messy-ness shows that not all is well. But Tara wearing the neat cape shows that she’s taken Drea’s spot in the group. Idk
I really enjoyed the movie even though it wasn't perfect, my biggest problem with it *spoilers* was the fact that Eleanor hit Drea with her car and threatened her mother which is beyond the negative actions of anyone else and yet it's completely glossed over. I wouldve preferred an ending in which they either tentatively decided to explore a friendship where they worked for forgiveness, mostly Eleanor, or committed to the darkness of the fact that they decided to remain extremely close and intense and toxic.
Ikr
i'm still shocked drea forgave nora after hitting her with her fucking car. she could've died 😭
And threatened her mom. After it was revealed Nora did a lot of stuff to still get Max to confess, and the two main characters celebrated the ending of driving off in a car together made no sense to me. Like she's just going to forgive Nora now for hitting her with her car and threatening her mom? And Nora didn't sound like she forgave Drea for what Drea did in the past. But I also thought nearly every character that had dialogue in the movie was a bad person.
Nora could definitely still choke Drea in her sleep or something like that.
"teenagers, we're psychos"
"It was just a love tap"
@@itsalwayshalloweenexceptwh5118 yeah but I feel like it makes sense. Like they both did messed up shit and really in this exaggerated and satirical world, they should have ended up as each other's only friend. But their friendship would have made more sense if both of them got exposed for their actions since then their fucked up friendship would be the only thing they'd have left. Basically stuck together
@@itsalwayshalloweenexceptwh5118 Yea, Nora was just a psycho and Drea should've left her.
it’s a teen movie revenge martini with an extra kick, an added spice, a further lemon twist of the knife. queen bee royal pariah + demure demented social shapeshifter = a pernicious primrose promise of violence and slay energy for days.
I’m glad you liked it I remember watching it during a PFM survey and begging them to release just knowing the girls who felt Jawbreaker, Mean Girls & even Heathers would eat this right tf uppp just like I did🤣🤣
OMG I've never actually met a real person who's been through one of those! How do they work? Do you need qualifications to be a general audience member reacting?
whats a pfm survey? 😅
@@dorotaisqueen3650 I signed up for a survey program and one of the offers was to watch Aquaman early for free and answer a survey and I got another offer recently
@@Shewhospeakesinverse oooh that's cool
One thing I wanted to add was how refreshing it was to see a Desi guy cast as the cute, cool, artsy love interest. So many American media have the Desi guys be unattractive, socially awkward guys who are obsessed with school. Even though never have I ever did a good job at casting attractive, charming Desi men, we never see them as the main love interest.
He also played a love interest in Ms Marvel too so hoping this actor gets more roles like this and that the stereotypes about Desi men fade away.
8:00 his work in Lexi's play shows how he was perfect for the role
Am I the only one that appreciated the interior design of each set. Every space was decorated so beautifully even the classrooms!
I also thought it was interesting that Max seemed to be the only other main character that had his own color scheme of blue and yellow/gold, even wearing it in school when everyone else is wearing the school colors of purple/green, implying that he can do literally whatever he wants and is above it all.
I thought the way they led up to the plot twist was genius. They made the audience invested in the two characters’ growing friendship and then BAM. I didn’t think this film was going to be good, but it surprised me.
This movie was insane!
I will say I thought Gabbi was the only redeemable character (considering how crazy everyone else is), and I don't think she should be obliged to have to do something about Max just because he's her brother. I thought it made sense that Eleanor's love interest would be outside the main friend group, as a sanctuary away from the drama. But I am a little concerned about Eleanor being a psychopath 😅
I agree, I think she was too harsh on Gabbie. As a little sister to a brother that was once a “playboy” there isn’t much that you could do. Sure you can tell the girls if they were being cheated on or something but other than that you don’t have much power. Especially since she was the little sister of Max, she was most likely just referred to as that. Not her own person, but an extension of her brother. So again, not much power there.
The fact that Eleanor was completely unhinged made me like this movie more. I was like "oh I love this" she's like the petty we all want to be at times, but don't have the balls to pull off.
tbh I think Russ is pretty redeemable, he didn't do anything really bad
i completely agree with the gabbi thing. she isn't hypocritical for openly disagreeing with her brother's actions but doing nothing about them. it would've been way different if she had solid evidence to expose him and decided to cover up for him, but there was no proof of anything and it wasn't her responsibility to play detective and go out of her way to find it. really all she could do was speak out against him, which she did (on a more private scale seeing as she isn't that social to begin with)
What about Carissa? Abandoning Eleanor was kind of shitty, sure, but I can’t really fault her for not being brave enough to handle that situation at 13.
the plot twist was a plot twist that was more exciting than anything i've watched or expected in a teen movie!! Eleanor was SO interesting here. I also loved Drea and Eleanor's outfits at the admissions party-green and orange, clashing, complimentary colours but they still sort of match each other (the gold chains on Drea's dress and the gold zippers on Eleanors)! I felt like that speaks to how their friendship started and developed before and throughout the movie!
i would suggest heartbreak high. The clothes are amazing very 90s and the cast has a rich and diverse cast. Supper funny. None of the characters are 100% likeable and none of them are 100% horrible. I'm really happy that we are seeing teens as complex people.
YES i just finished it today and it's one of my fave new shows!
Also I’ve seen that show it’s awesome!
@@gabitron420 It actually makes me sad that some people hate these characters. I mean like they are sixteen years old. When i was that age, even when i was doing things for other people, i was thinking about myself. (haha).
But seriously these clothes actually pretty great. I feel like the fashion is more realistic than Euphoria. Like i can actually see myself wear these clothes.
As an aussie, it is great to finally have a show that explores our culture.
I watched it with my sister and we had a lot of fun. We were audibly gasping at Drea's outfits, the aesthetic was impecable. And when it comes to the plot, it felt like a clueless meets heathers meets mean girls, the plot twist definitely caught us off guard in a good way.
Yes. "Do Revenge" was one of the better movies targeted for gen z. It was like "Jawbreakers" and "Cruel Intentions"with a hint of "Slap Her She's French" but considering ways gen z teens are socialized different since they are the digital natives.The music could have been more gen z oriented though.
I personally think the music was gen z despite being from decades ago I heard every song in this movie from tiktok and I love how they added happier than ever
i agree with both sentiments- i’m gen z (2003), and when i first heard the first seconds of *brutal* i knew immediately i was in for a treat. i didn’t recognize every song, but they all felt right. it felt like the playlist that the characters would actually listen to during the story
I actually read an interview with the director and music supervisor, and they said they specifically chose many of the songs they did as a love letter to the 90s and early 2000s movies they were paying homage to with the movie
@@jasmineluvsnana I was considering that the soundtracks for the 90s and 00s movies featured contemporary of that time.
@@alc2844 I agree those 2000s are also sang today but I love that they homage the songs from the 2000s but also adding gen z artists songs like Billie and Olivia Rodrigo
I liked it too. My main complaint was that it was a tad long at 2 hours. I was worried at the start that they were just trying to blend a bunch of teen films together, but ultimately I think the camp and self-awareness won me over.
This feels like the my gen film I’ve been waiting for the last 10 years
i really dk why but when Eleanor was talking about the girl who ruined her and Drea asked who it is, i expected her to say "you" like some sort of foreshadowing lmao
The third was good until we get to Max’s “downfall.” I think it would have been better if he had been outed in a more public forum like at graduation or one of their major assemblies. Him being outed as a misogynistic fake woke at his own party just fell flat for me. Like you said, his friends probably already know his character so showing his duplicitous nature at the party doesn’t have the same impact as if it had happened at a school function (especially when you consider that Drea has been ostracized from being part of the school social scene).
You’re absolutely right that it was a huge mistake not to out him at a school function where he would have felt the consequences of what he did. His own party with only teenagers doesn’t work.
But if they waited that long, wouldn't Max have destroyed their reputation even more like he threatened?
@@imdad1284 He threatened to destroy both their reputations only after he read got hold of their phone at the last party. So they could have waited.
It doesn’t have to be graduation. But OP is right that the event needed to be in a different space, one with adults that would mess up his public image and have an effect on his future.
They would not be able to fit a more formal event on script. Also a character being exposed in an moment where he's posing as golden boy is way too cliché and the facr that his downfall happened due to being exposed at a party kinda shows how much power teenagers have
There wasn't really an easy way for Drea to NOT believe that Max was behind it. His friends went along with his innocence either really not believing him or accepting it and just thinking 'glad it wasn't me'.
But for Drea it was clear from the start because it wasn't photos, it was a Sex Tape Max shot, very likely on his phone. So even though he very flimsily claimed 'It wasn't me. I got hacked', it was pretty obvious that it was him.
Her friend dating Max when it was so obvious he did it was just the biggest slap in the face, but also proved how fake they all were.
Max didn't shoot it. Right before it got sent out you see Drea filming herself stripping and him receiving it.
I LOVE that they cast people from some big current teen shows. Euphoria, 13 Reasons, Outer Banks, Riverdale. Some people won’t recognize any of these actors but a lot of teens definitely will.
I absolutely LOVED this commentary. Admittedly I was one of those people who had wished Drea and Eleanor would've ended up together in the end. I'm a sucker for sexual tension between female rivals (my favorite recent iteration of this being Dare Me). But I also understand the point of not having them end up together. Because the movie is less about their obsession with each other and rather their pathological need to manipulate and control their relationships. That being said, seeing as they really hadn't learned their lesson by the end, I would've preferred they ended up with no one. They already skipped graduation (which left me a little salty, since Drea's initial point about having to work hard to get to Yale was undermined by her throwing the opportunity away) they might as well have skipped out on all the other "happy ending" tropes as well. That would further highlight how especially unhinged they both are.
Also agree for more Tara.
I actually didn't want Camilla and Maya to get together either. Idk why people wanted them to. For me, I just really wanted to see that platonic relationship portrayed in several layers and for us to enjoy their chemistry without making it romantic.
It was immediately iconic. Camilla did a great job. The acting was great, the outfits were chefs kiss and the plot twist was solid. This movie gives cult classic. I didn't guess the plot twist but I was suspicious of Eleanor which to me says great acting from Maya but also good writing too.
the movie was so good and fun, but once that party started in the final act everything kinda felt rushed. like the writers suddenly realised that they only had ten pages left to wrap things up. i get that eleanor had already been conflicted when the reveal happened because she had created an actual bond with drea, but drea definitely should have been more angry. i mean, she literally hit her with her car and was blackmailing her.
that reconnection probably would have felt a lot better if eleanor had been the one to smash the camera and make the speech
The pastel pleads skirt with checkered pattern and adjustable waist has been very popular in China in recent years. They are called JK - Joshi Kousei style, the term means high school girls in Japanese because these skirts take inspiration from the Japanese high school uniform skirt
13:05 I think this was a reference to baz luhrman's romeo and juliet..?! One of the campiest movies I've ever seen it makes SO MUCH SENSE that it was influential.
omg i think you’re totally right! nice catch 😳
That plot twist was so good! I ultimately felt more immediate solidarity to Drea’s character because she’s genuinely lower class and has already lost so much due her other awful relationships to her rich classmates. It was terrifying with her car getting messed with and then the threats to her mother and actually getting hit by Eleanor’s car. Drea had more to lose and lost the most throughout the film. I think in hindsight Eleanor’s character still scares me and I hope they don’t try and tack on any sequels because those girls should never be within the same 10-feet of one another.
Just a funfact: the uniform skirts are from a Taobao brand called KZ. The style is called “JK”( Japanese school girl uniforms ). It has become a quite popular style in China.
If you rematch it and look at Eleanor you can see the scheming and dark pleasure on her face. Also she's the one who pushes for revenge all the time, it's subtle but it's there and it just shows what a good actress Maya Hawke is
Clueless meets Cruel Intentions and Mean Girls, I loved it
I wish they had done more with Jonathan Davis' character other than him being the sidekick.
Yes I was excited to watch him after Outer Banks, but he did not have much lines which suprised me 😢
@@pinaraytuna same here. For whatever reason I thought he’d be Drea’s new love interest and I think it was a missed opportunity not to do that. It could’ve added more drama to the whole thing
So much of the fashion looks like teen movies from the late 90s early 2000s when I was a kid, I love it 🥲
Basically it’s nostalgia done right. There is some social commentary that is not patronising too which I love
Someone else tweeted “Do Revenge: a fashion analysis” and I knew moderngurlz had dropped a vid 😂😂
I watched this today while doing mindless work and expected very little out of it, just because Netflix hasn’t been great with this type of film lately.
But I was pleasantly surprised and really enjoyed it! The twist was super surprising for me and I loved how great it looked. I definitely agree that it’s a new classic for the genre.
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Nice to see such a beautiful wardrobe and a campy take on teen movies. Gotta love a movie that’s not trying too hard to be funny. Camila killed this role, nice to see her work with a real script
I usually look at the fashion in movies and Camila Mendes looks absolutely stunning💖✨🔥 definitely gonna be watching this
I loved Do Revenge so much more than I expected to! It used elements from 80s-00s chick flicks really well without being afraid to try something new. It's so rare that I watch a movie nowadays that I actually want to copy the style from, but the costume designers did such an awesome job. I think it'll probably age pretty well!
I really liked this movie! Netflix had done many cringy teen movies and this one did not feel like that
1st watch and obsessed, never been into teen movies like this before since mean girls. really quoteable, relatable at some points & also super eyecatchy. also i thought that Eleanor was into Drea while helping her *Do Revenge* but realized they better off as bestie but ooh the plot twist caught me off guard.
What makes this movie kinda twisted tho is the fact that it seemed like Drea’s friends only accepted her back into the clique b/c Eleanor purposely hit Drea with her car, knowing they’d all feel bad. I just can’t get over that.
All in all, the film was good. Truth be told, I wouldn’t be surprised if it goes down as one of the best high school teen movies of all time. It’s honestly a must see if you’re into this type of genre.
The plot twist actually surprised me the only thing I don’t like is the fact that Nora and Dre didn’t get a punishment like Max did. It would’ve been great if they did something like mean girls where they all get to at least face the affects of their actions. For example instead of only Max the video also leaked the whole conversation about them druging the school.
I knew Eleanor was up to something as soon as Drea's car didn't work and she was conveniently there to give her a lift but still didn't expect that awesome third act. Very entertained.
I watched this movie the other day and was WAITING for this video, the fashion and colour palettes are just PERFECT
Oh my god! So glad seeing you reviewing it!
tbh the way it ended seemed as tho a second movie could be made. with them still not fully forgiving each other or possibly teaming up again to get revenge for something else. There’s hella room which they should take advantage of but then again i don’t want them to ruin it. 😅
Movie recommendations compilation for y’all
To die for(1995)
House of yes(1997)
Drop dead gorgeous (1999)
Sugar and spice(2001)
Slap her she’s french(2002)
Pretty Persuasion(2005)
Miss Nobody(2010)
YESSS I"M SO HAPPY UR TALKING ABT THIS MOVIE!!
Personally I just couldn't get passed the 'poor little rich girls' vibes. This film would have been just as enjoyable with all Drea's other characteristics without her having to be on a scholarship etc. We were meant to feel sorry for her situation but judging by her wardrobe, devices, car etc she's not exactly struggling and it diluted the other messages 💋
tbh i thought the whole salvation army thing at the beginning of the movie explained her wardrobe? it's not the most realistic, finding all these extravagant pieces at the thrift store, but it felt realistic per the movie's standard.
It’s possible for a poor girl to get nice things you need to be like Drea tho and have access to that kind of circle via scholarship
@@meowmeowmeowm5248 Probably also hand-me-downs from Tara and co, She's shown to be able to sew so she's probably was modifying things to fit her too.
@@meowmeowmeowm5248 yeah honestly I've found some hella fancy looking stuff at Salvation Army. I got my military ball gown there and it was black lace, made in Italy. Nobody could tell that I only paid like $5 for it
It's like Regina from Mean Girls met Violet from Jawbreakers 🎉🎉
I think it’s pretty true to life that someone’s teenaged younger sibling wouldn’t “do something” about her brother’s crappy treatment of women. She’s a teenager in the messy process of learning about her self and it’s not her job to police her brother’s behavior.
I got so excited when I saw you posted a video about this. I was obsessed with the visuals, and of course, specifically, the clothes
Recommendations for Movies to Watch Next:
- To Die For (1995)
- The House of Yes (1997)
- Drop Dead Gorgeous (1999)
- Sugar and Spice (2001)
- Slap Her, She's French! (2002)
- Pretty Persuasion (2005)
- Miss Nobody (2010)
Thought I'd compile a list of all the recs at the end of the video so it'll be easier for people to make notes.
honestly im just very happy seeing riverdale actors/actresses outside of that fiasco of a show. A lot of them are actually talented but sadly waisted.
I swear it was so good, I’m impressed. It gives me mean girl and clueless, but they talk about real subjects, which makes it so much better
If you liked this I definitely recommend the new Netflix series Heartbreak High! It's been so good!
Honestly Drea and nora's friendship is similar to mine and my best friend's minus the toxicity. We're close in an intense way 👁️
I find your videos so soothing
How serendipitous, I just watched this movie this morning! Yay for a new ModernGurlz video 💕
the casting was absolutely perfect
im actually so upset with the way they handled the reveal of drea outing and making eleanor into a predatory lesbian. drea never apologised for that and even made the same mistake again
edit: im not saying what nora did is ok, but i am talking about how this situation wasnt handled well and im upset about it as a lesbian. if the movie gave more time unpacking that, i would’ve not thought the same
She did apologize though. At the end of the movie when they were at the fire.
i think the way she got over it was pretty unrealistic considering how much they made it a part of her character with her going to a mental hospital and all lol but ig everyone is different
@@jena9853 right after outing her again tho?? ig i forgot about it, but i think that makes a point that it didnt feel at all that it was genuine to me
@@nar_aspan well, that was at a point where Elenor was still actively threatening to effectivly put Dreas Mom in jail for decades, so I think we can forgive her for that. but i mean, the whole forgiveness to each other was rushed and weird to me, like the shit put on each other..
what drea did at camp wasn't right ofc but she didn't out her a second time. eleanor mentioned an ex gf to max, so they knew she liked women. all she did was mention gabbi and eleanor's situationship which was well deserved considering eleanor hit her with her car??/&)(/
I agree about your stance with Max's friends they were constantly on Max's side during his misgivings so I'm positive they knew he leaked that tape so for them to be all shocked and disgusted was so fake to me 😂😂
Yup. I hate the fakeness of that clique. I think they turned their backs at Max in the end because of societal pressure rather than genuinely supporting Drea. They wouldn't want to be social pariah.
Tara doesn't deserve forgiveness from Drea. Should always stick by 'Chicks before Dicks'
Though it’s still probable that Max hid the secret of leaking Drea’s video to the girls, I doubt he hid it to Elliot as well-who seemed suspiciously very _against_ him by the end of the movie
@@emberz_mars very true, they were using max just as much as he was using them, they back him up, he keeps his status, and in return so do they and when he doesn't ...well we saw the ending 😂 its sad but that's how it goes in these popular crowds 🤷♀️
@@emberz_mars Chicks before dicks, LOL first time I hear that 💀
This may sound weird but I really loved LOOKING at this movie lol They curated an aesthetic that I found interesting and I wanted to keep seeing what wild outfit Eleanor or Drea was going to wear next (and I agree with everything you said about the plot and acting! Especially Austin, he portrayed the performative Gen Z woke "cool guy" character PERFECTLY.)
I started your video but on your recommendation went to watch the movie before coming back. It was such a blast thanks for talking about media worth watching alongside your critiques! Honestly I wouldn’t have looked twice at it without your video and I think it’s about to become a comfort movie for me.
They are my favorite kind of movies. I really want this genre to become popular and good again, I really miss those kind of movies. Hopefully this means this genre can have a possible revival 💖💖💖
I loved the twist but also felt the neatly tied up ending could've been a little better. What I wanted for the ending was for Drea and Eleanor to drive off together as a duo setting out to wreak havoc on the world. I didn't want the love interests to forgive them for their shitty behavior. I wanted them having to give up their respective loves to be the sacrifice they had to pay for embracing their conniving natures.