An Operating System in 1.44 MBs
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- Опубліковано 22 лип 2024
- An Operating System in 1.44 MBsIn a world where a stock installation of Windows is 27 GBs, and Linux isn't much better at 500 MBs.. surely that space must be used for something.Is it even possible for a system to boot into a usable OS with less than 1.44 MBs of software?
Even Windows 3.11 requires 6.5 MBs and a hard disk.But.. apparently KolibriOS can... it even has a GUI, and full suite of applications.. lets have a closer look shall we?
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KolibriOS: kolibrios.org/en/
00:00 - Intro
00:56 - Bump
01:05 - Introduction
02:50 - KolibriOS Installation
03:27 - First Boot
04:46 - Browsing in style :3
06:48 - The rest of the apps
13:56 - USB experience
15:16 - apps cont.
20:02 - The Sound Escapade
22:43 - Gaming in 1.44 MBs
28:44 - boykisser :333
30:45 - Outro
32:20 - Bump
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WindowsG Extras: Episode 8
by SnoopiTek 2023
www.snoopieworld.net - Наука та технологія
28:40 if Tetris Effect Connected ranked mode counts, your fear just became reality.
This Tetris version does not have a game standard board size and it seems to lock pieces like Classic Tetris, so in that way it might take some adjusting at first.
Unless it has issues with reading inputs, at that speed that amount of misdrops is inexcusable though and I will judge you for it for eternity, as you feared.
Also extremely poor piece placement, though that can be a strategy to score quicker higher up the board, with such a glacial dropspeed.
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No wonder KolibriOS is so fast and small, it's written completely in x86 assembly code.
unpin comment lmao
I will add some things as a tetrio player: it seemingly doesn't use the usual seven bag randomization which is odd; it seems to lack a hold piece feature; & the colours of the tetrminos are random which is cursed.
@@average-neco-arc-enjoyer only the random tetromino colours are off to me, the rest is normal in classic Tetris rules, which these clones often use.
Ofc. there's way more depth to the modern rules, with super-rotation, lock delay and hold.
But this is more a fun add-on to a 1,44MB OS, so the simpler implementation makes sense.
I can't stop laughing about the boiling hard drive. Very creative work on your videos my friend.
The thumbnail "It's so small!" is probably not what you wanna hear in bed from a partner. ha-ha
JFC I died from laughter when I saw that. Not into the whole catboy thing, but hey, good content is good content.
@@CyroTheSpiderI think he's trans, not just a catboy
@@solidnywonsz Yeah, I think she came out in one of the videos later, this video was almost like a year ago at this point.
It's written 100% in assembly... which means porting to another CPU architecture will be... not easy.
Why would you want to port it?
@@lukealadeen7836because ARM64 and RISC-V would be nice
isn't this written in fasm tho ? i feel like it wouldnt be impossible to port to arm
That explains everything actually. All my assembly projects were super unstable, probably helps to know what you're doing though 😂
Chatgpt from 2040 can do it easy!
6:44
"No, back, back, back! meow :3"
god i fucking love this channel
NO BACK BACK BACK *meow*
meow :3
meow :3
mrow! :3
Also 14:11 Holy f K , it's upside down 😂
This OS goes to show how bloated operating systems have gotten in the past 20 years, and especially since windows vista. Of course, there's not much you can do with this cause of the custom kernal, but still.
It's not just the operating systems in themselves, but also the amount of different drivers, driver stacks, and the layers of abstraction required to support 238979823498235234 different hardware combinations really add up. There's a severe lack of standardization and unification in computing. That, and of course the calculation under capitalism is that developer time is more expensive that computing resources, so there is mostly little incentive to be efficient.
Well, this OS is literally assembly language if I don't remember wrong.
Cuts down the amount of instructions to the *absolute* minimum required, but it's somewhat difficult to be productive when programming for something like that...
I believe that you can run it in a VM though, so there's that...
Win 11 со всеми обновлениями может весить 50 ГБ. Это просто дичь какая-то.
@@redtex но линукс все еще может быть очень худым (разные дистро конечно могут и дофига занимать)
@@Luredreier It is, yeah - 32-bit x86 FASM, IIRC.
I haven't written enough assembly, let alone ancient i386-era assembly, to have a strong, informed opinion on how brutal it really is. But for what it's worth, assemblers like FASM, NASM, etc, are "macro assemblers", meaning you can effectively create reusable libraries, "functions", etc.
And in the case of things like OS kernels, while C is common, you generally don't get the typical "ease" of C, C++, Rust, or whatever you're writing it in; you're going to be writing straight C [or insert language here] without any sort of standard library features, since those are all things that are generally implemented on top of the kernel -- which means you're going to be in for similar levels of brutal wheel-reinventing and extreme low-level development until you've got enough of the system implemented.
While doing it all in assembly is still super hardcore, I could imagine an experienced person reaching relatively close to C levels of productivity, especially given that FASM in particular has surprisingly decent tooling and libraries available -- even purpose-built fully-fledged IDEs fresh.flatassembler.net/index.cgi?page=content/1_screenshots.txt
I think the bigger "issues" are:
- A. Lack of general mindshare; "popular" non-Linux operating systems, like the BSDs, already have a much smaller pool of users and developers available.
- B. Lack of people familiar enough with x86 assembly to contribute
- C. Being tied to particular platform; again, while macro assemblers make code re-use much easier (and therefore porting easier too), you're still writing assembly for a particular ISA, tying you to a particular architecture or subset of said architecture -- running something like Kolibri on anything that doesn't natively do 32-bit x86, or at least support some form of odd-ball x86 hardware-level translation, like Elbrus or Transmeta, requires significant porting or some sort of software-level x86 translation layer (e.g., something similar to QEMU, Box86, Blink, Rosetta).
Also worth noting, while the majority of Kolibri is in assembly, there is nothing stopping you from writing a libc to make use of non-assembly programs when necessary, which is exactly what it appears they've done for a few bits and pieces -- e.g., the browser is a port of NetSurf, a tiny C browser.
Similarly, I could imagine binary translation being viable; since Linux doesn't have any sort of "official" libc, the kernel syscalls tend to be very stable, making it a great lingua-franca for when applications are either distributed as proprietary Linux binaries or rely on loads of OS-specific code paths.
Several daily-use-ready operating systems, like Illumos, FreeBSD, NetBSD, Windows (WSL1), and previously, OpenBSD, all have/had varying support for running unmodified Linux binaries using this approach.
A number of hobbyist OS kernels do it as well. Fiwix is about ~30k sloc in total of pretty much pure C89, making it tiny and easy to compile, yet provides convincing-enough support for 32-bit x86 Linux ABI that it has been really useful for me in terms of producing verifiable builds; I currently bootstrap from a couple hundred *bytes* of hand-written, verifiable hex on "baremetal" to a modern Linux kernel + GCC/LLVM thanks to its simplicity and support for Linux binaries.
And as a more real-world example:
Prior to Joyent being acquired by Samsung and then eventually shutting down, they ran a large public cloud (think: AWS, GCP, Azure) based on SmartOS, their own own derived from Illumos (OpenSolaris).
While they offered proper Linux virtual machines on top of bhyve/kvm for those who truly needed/wanted them, Joyent also ran a successful container-based service.
With VMs, you've got overhead from all of the hardware virtualization, plus the overhead of running another Kernel, plus the millions of lines of extra code ripe for security vulnerabilities, but you also typically end up with either the physical server being under-utilized due to giving each and every VM truly dedicated resources [when the majority of the time, applications are not going to be maxing out memory nor pegging all cores], or you end up with poor performance due to the opposite problem - overcomitting/overselling resources, starving VMs for CPU/IO/whatever.
So, containers made a ton of sense; why virtualize an entire machine, run multiple kernels, and so on, when you can just isolate applications and give the host kernel full transparency over resource allocation, thread scheduling, etc?
In the Linux world, Docker and similar were new, and the way they were built was very different from the approaches taken by FreeBSD and Illumos/Solaris -- Linux essentially provided some primitive APIs you *could* possibly use to sandbox things, and then Docker was built on top of that, whereas Jails and Zones were built from the ground up as containizeration solutions. Because of that, and probably a variety of other reasons, container escapes were (are?) rampant, and so you commonly find people running Docker *on top of VMs*, essentially defeating the point.
However, again, Joyent ran Illumos, not Linux; Solaris had Zones since ~2005 and they were pretty battle-tested at this point. Joyent had the competitive advantage of actually being able to run containers on multi-tenant hosts without it being a major security risk. But... again... Illumos, not Linux; it's a hard sell trying to convince your customers to port all their software to Illumos/Solaris when A. maybe they can't, B. it may cost a lot, and C. they'd be risking vendor lock-in.
Joyent's solution was to just write a convincing Linux syscall translation layer -- almost something like Wine. But unlike Wine, the surface area of Linux kernel syscalls is a lot smaller than what needs to be done for Windows translation. So, [while still painful] this was actually super feasible and worked out great for them -- you could upload unmodified "Linux" Docker images and they'd transparently be converted to Illumos LX-Branded Zones with you, as the customer, being [hopefully] none the wiser.
Cannot wait to rewatch this 25 times in next two weeks. Thanks for video
seeing e621 in what i thought was a normal tech video was JARRING
i guess youre a man of culture
That's the most amazing OS I have ever seen! For fitting on a floppy, i expected it to look like DOS. I did not expect fully functioning GUI with icons and color. Simply amazing.
You should look up AmigaOS then, that fit on a DD diskette (half of the HD this one uses). :P
@snotspat Ahhh, C= Commodore Amiga. Those were the days. 1.3, 2.0.
Just what I was thinking. My A1000 booted from a single floppy.
Well back in the day, the Amiga OS was on a floppy and Atari later brought out newer versions of GEM which were released on a floppy. The original Mac OS was on a floppy too. You would be surprised what was possible in the past.
@@cliffhulcoopofficial8075 not surprised at all. Got my first amiga in 1988.
absolutely fucking incredible. this is how I found your channel and I don't think I could've asked for a better introduction
Same. Really refreshing and different to the norm style commenting. Love it
My favorite part was when you meowed at the task bar
MEOW!
meow :3
Actually, those "orthodox file managers" are clones of Norton Commander (1986) not of Midnight Commander (1994) that was also a clone of NC. The third one is FAR Manager and is available for Windows, Linux, OSX and Unix and is made by the one who made RAR.
Midnight Commander is still around, developed and maintained. I use the current version 4.8.30 on Linux every day.
DOS Navigator was (and still is) my absolute favorite.
@@worroSfOretsevraH In my dos days, I remember giving up of NC in favor of DN. I think it was version 1.5 and it was better in many ways than NC.
@@andreasklindt7144 I use MC on my slackware laptop, even under KDE. I find it more comfortable and easy to use than Dolphin or any explorer like FM.
@@andreasklindt7144I tend to use gui on Linux because I'm not the most software savvy, but I always gotta get Midnight Commander because it always seems to save my ass when nothing else can...
Again, I really like how she makes such an obscure OS like Kolibri become an teeny cutie operating system.
What? It's a dude, don't be offensive
@@seemasse-more6333 meow :3
@@seemasse-more6333not according to her website
lmao@@seemasse-more6333
@@seemasse-more6333 I mean, they look like a trans girl, sound like a trans girl, and act like a trans girl...
For some additional context, a 3.1MP JPG image taken from one of Canon's first DSLRs (circa late year 2000) clocks in between 700kb and 1.7Mb (depending on color variety/exposure), meaning that many of those images from almost 23 years ago are still larger than this entire functional operating system. These images don't even take up half of a 4k display's real estate when viewed at 100%.
Before you say that "JPG is compressed", this OS is heavily reliant on compression to fit into the space it does, too. RAW files from the same camera (Canon D30) are usually around 3Mb.
oh my god i haven't seen kolibrios in years. i guess if there was anyone who would cover some obscure, small-ass, from-the-ground-up operating system it would be you though, so this all checks out. great as always.
Or Michael MJD, who I jokingly refer to as Druaga1 minus weed. Still convinced they're the same person.
The distro for OS-9 (a multi-user preemptive multitasking OS) was two 150kb floppies. 1.44 Mb is not that small.
seems still actively used and upgraded for other cpu ...
I thought BEOS was cool at 44 meg download
I thought Mac OS stopped supporting floppy boot by that point
@@charliekahn4205 Not Mac OS9, OS-9
I would also note that Mac OS9 is neither multi-user nor does it have preemptive multitasking.
lol. But does it have a GUI tho?
The swears make you sound like an eighth grader but the OS is cool
I’ve been having a rough few days, however your videos never fail to make me laugh, thank you so much for what you do Snoopie 💕
She more or less is who I wanted to be during college, a cute femme tech nerd with chill vibes. I'm only half of those sadly.
@@SonicBoone56 never too late :3
I had a rough day at work today, and I'm so glad that I had started watching this video before work and finished watching it after work. A real good palate cleanser at the absolute least. In seriousness though... mmmph, good vid!
Using the xp fall wallpaper in a video makes you officially an obscure niche internet celebrity
Early versions of GEOS fit on a single 5.25 inch floppy disk, 170KB a side.
And me with a 5.25” drive and diskettes still...
I remember the QNX demo disk in the late 90s. POSIX, full graphical user interface, graphical text editor, TCP/IP networking, web browser and web server that all fit on a bootable floppy. Wild times.
Came here to find this. Yup the QNX demo was sweet.
QNX was amazing. I have tried a relatively small CD version but also came across the floppy one you mentioned. I also liked the similarly built linux distro called muLinux, which, however, formatted 1.44 floppies as 1.7 mb floppies (don't ask me how it did that, but it did). It had graphics, games and even a web and mail server built in.
@@tziuriky86 Microsoft used to distribute stuff in the same format: "Distribution Media Format." In addition to larger cluster sizes letting them shrink the file table, there were some other tricks. Pretty cool stuff.
I seem to vaguely remember also some kind of compressed FAT filesystem thing too... I think there was an option on Win95 to compress the filesystem and something like that was available on floppies too@@Insightfill
I love the humor and general vibe of this channel! Just a minute into this video I subbed, keep up the great work.
you are all of my favorite tech youtubers thrown into one omg
Been binging the hell out of your videos recently, you def need to come back! Much love dude hope everything with the move is going well.
" a stock installation of Windows is 27 GBs, and Linux isn't much better at 500 MBs.."
Isn't much better? That's 54x smaller 😭😭
wrjbg we git big stiràge
been finding so many great tech/old software and hardware channels lately. definitely subbed!
I have a weird ptsd attack with this episode as I was watching it on my phone while stealing someone else's french fries
i like how i have never shown interest in people who most likely put :3 at the end of every sentence on youtube, yet youtube just showed me this channel and im about to binge most of the channel, and great video btw :3
Hewwo snoop :3 you're awesome and i hope you're doing well at the new place :3
The innuendo in the thumbnail was quite something. Very amazing video!
Saw the boiled hard drive and heard the phrase “taquito summoning circle” and knew I had to sub.
A compiler usually implies the use of a mid or higher-level language and convert into processor binary. Assemblers convert processor instructions into processor binary. Compiled programs usually pull in precompiled subroutines or DLLs to add to code the programmer wrote, making them noticeably larger.
i always have a smile whenever you upload! glad you uploaded! :3
thanks for the subtitles! very helpful for non-natives
love the video! hugs from brazil
Soo fun to watch! Thank you for a nice video about this super-amazing OS! 🙂
No, compilers and assemblers are two different objects. Compilers can take code (like C++ for example, which btw are called ‘high-level languages’) and compile it for a given CPU architecture, like x86 on the PC on this video, or ARM which runs your phone. The assemblers job is to take that code and turn it into machine code, which is what the processor actually uses.
An assembler is just a compiler that operates on a very low level language. The distinction is not fundamental and is largely an accident of history.
You're confusing assemblers with linkers, which link multiple object files together into a final binary program. Assembly may just be glorified machine code with labels and macros but that still technically makes it the lowest level programming language possible outside of writing literal machine code.
Really, the difference between an assembler and a compiler is that a compiler has to generate machine code functionally equivalent to the high level code you've written and in the process do things like register mapping while an assembler doesn't have to do those particular things because you've already written the exact sequence of instructions you want the CPU to execute and explicitly specified which registers to use when.
I wonder if I could make it small enough to fit on a ZX Spectrum 128?
I'm SCREAMING at your thumbnail for this video! The floppy is BACKWARDS!!!!
I was surprised how far down I had to scroll to find this comment. The backwards floppy was the only reason I clicked on the video. 😂
@@bitsculptor clickbait thumbnails are quite common these days, I understand the struggle of keeping the algorithm happy just wish that authors would add a comment acknowledging what they did so that people wouldn't lose their minds over these gimmicks, adding the comment shouldn't hurt them since they already got the click
I loooove the video style!!!
Waiting for the next one 👀
even a simple .cpp file compiled to .exe to .out file is around 2.4 MBs, how is this even possible
Now try the QNX floppy disk demo!
4 months snoopie?? i've been coming back to this channel every month for new videos and im starving for your videos, please come back, i need my favorite tech tuber back
YES i wanna watch you struggle with numbers! xD
So I've found this channel today, and now I'm gonna be up until 6am meowing and in tights
Never heard of this, definitely messing with it when I get the chance to :3 Has a nice little GUI and everything!
boiling hard drive was the best introduction to this channel i couldve ever gotten thank you
I need help as in which os or kernel works on a laptop with these specs ?
System Type X86-based PC
Processor Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU T6400 @ 2.00GHZ, 2000 Mhz, 2 Core(s)
Would really appreciate the help 🙌🏼
The most amazing thing is that you didn't have a compatible sound or network card. Take a random ISA sound card from the second half of the 1990s and chances are it will be SB16 compatible and work with just about any OS. And the two most common decent PCI network cards of that period were probably the 3Com 3C905 and Intel Pro/100. And the Realtek 8139 was super common in cheap cards for ages, now replaced by the Gigabit-capable 8169. I'm having a harder time finding a PCI network card online that's _not_ compatible.
the editing is so good :3
i wonder if he edits the videos himself or someone else does it :)
Underrated channel, deserves more
meow :3
"oh and the operating system just FUCKING booted" --- Subscribed.
And here i thought it was Puppy Linux when i saw the community post. Because i dont read.
Ohmygod this is the first video of yours I've seen, and am loving your channel! :D Already subscribed.
lol, I thought from the thumbnail you may have been talking about DOS 6.21 with the no-hard drive installation option, where it essentially lets you use DOS with a single 3.5 in. floppy. It's a solid option if you have an era-appropriate machine with a dysfunctional or absent hard drive / hdd controller.
2:57 That iBookGuy reference killed me 💀
Windows also has 2 text editors. Notepad for plain text and Wordpad for rich text.
"why do you need multiple text editors" programmers who only use their darling vim or nano, but can't handle using their second option
can we creat embedded system for this os
OS on a floppy? In 2020's! That's unheard of. Amiga OS did something very similar in 80-90's on DD disk (880Kb) without packing files. QNX did this in 2000's and you had browser on fully multitasking OS. Still. Keep up the good work Kolibri! Small is beautiful.
Why is it surprising? Yes MSDOS can fit in a 2.5mb floppy disk... We called it the "boot disk"
HOLY bingle, litterally new fav channel :#
Keep posting bangers!
This video was also entertaining and informative I have some old equipment and I'm trying to give up and running and I will try this single OS on floppy.
Is this menuetos ? or QNX from about 2003?
this is really, really awesome!!
My problem is that I am too old. The first company I worked for had what they claimed was the largest privately owned computer in western Europe. It had three processing units and filled a massive barn of a room. I was told that its operating system was so big that it needed a whole megabyte to run it! How times change.
Hint: the missing cpu instruction for animage is MMX ... just tried it on a random pentium 2 laptop and it didn't complain.
Unfortunately, this OS has no support for my usb network adapter (tried a "D-Link Corp. DUB-E100 Fast Ethernet Adapter(rev.B1) [ASIX AX88772]" because that is what I had at hand) ... otherwise I would have tried actually browsing the web with this OS
Literally my new favorite channel.
I was not expecting a GUI! Startled me.
The taquitoes legacy lives on….
Btw good stuff, love your content!!
Would a 3DFX driver even be useful on an OS running in 2D? I know for sure that the Voodoo series cards didn't have 2D support, and relied on you having a separate 2D graphics card.
Great find! Subscribed.
No Solitaire game included in Kolibri OS?
this is the most interesting review of KolibriOS I've ever seen so far...
Why is the floppy disk backwards in the thumbnail?
QNX in 1997: hold my beer.
a friend of mine brought me here, i think i have a new favorite channel
Brings back memories. I remember downloading FDD friendly Linux distros and writing them to floppies with Rawrite. Actually one of my first exposure to Linux, aside of Knoppix.
You do you know you can run this in a VM instead ? Then you get networking and ... maybe sound..?
amazingly impressive :0
Thank you UA-cam for recommending me this. I love it so much. ^^
wait its got a winamp on that thing?
I really like the wallpaper at the start of your video, do you know where it was taken ?
OMFG the ibookguy reference killed me
An Ashens clip too, best video ever :p
The largest file on that disk is probably the background image.
thank you for making me feel good about my tetris skills!
Why is the floppy in the thumbnail backwards? Feels weird and wrong.
how is this even possible? like, I assume the icons are some sort of PNGs, they must take up a lot of space, so how do they cram everything in 1,44MB?
Getting any OS on a floppy is impressive.
So is getting a whole ass floppy into a camera. 😂
Your video thumbnail has the 3.5" floppy being inserted into the drive backwards, which at first I found funny until I realized how old that makes me to know this through first hand experience.
I remember running QNX from a three inch floppy disk in the early 00's. The system was also loaded into RAM.
Full gui, qnx was like magic
@@user-sd3ik9rt6d Yes it was! 😉
Yeah, every time i see stuff like this the reaction is "Oh, someone 'innovated' what QNX-Demo did in 1999".
what the heck is up with the floppy stuck in backwards on the title image? 🤷
You should try and find the QNX one disk drmo.
The most impressive thing to me is that you got it to work with the floppy diskette in backwards. (thumbnail photo) 😆
@ 29:30 was that a sony mavica????
First things first the disk in the video banner is sticking out of the disk drive backwards.
im only here due to the cat ears
1.44 MB OS
what fucking parallel universe am i in rn
2:58 man that was oooold
Glad to see that the file manager does really support showing thumbnail
Can it run doom though?
Why is the floppy disk backwards in your video thumbnail? Funny content though, just found your channel!
An even more fascinating fact is that the whole thing including all programs are written in assembly by hands. What f