Tudor Black Bay 58 VS Seiko SPB143
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- Опубліковано 22 січ 2023
- Tudor BB58:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1-b6...
Rolex Explorer 1:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wTRp...
Grand Seiko SBGM221:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=1K62w...
Seiko SPB143:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=prB26...
Omega Speedmaster 3511.50:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbp0h...
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I have both, love the Seiko the most..no problem with the movement at all.
Nice and good to know. Thank you 🙏 for watching!
Honestly you make some of the best comparison videos on youtube! I love the fact that there is no room for brand snobbish on your channel. I love these two watches myself, I have both in different models. They are so good in each of their own way.
Thank you 🙏 my man!
The seiko is very nice but the BB58 is something very special and wears perfectly on the wrist due to its moderate lug to lug and thinness.
Agree 👍🏼 thank you for watching and congrats on your BB58!
Dude, your channel is fantastic and I’m glad to be a part of your progression early as I think you will make it big here with many followers. Love the California vibe as well. As for the watches, I own the blue bay and it’s my go to.
Thank you brother and glad you’re part of the #tudorbros 👍🏼
Fantastic side by side comparison! I do have the seiko in two variations 143 and 213 and I have to say the limited editions bezel action is slightly better. They are both running within +\- 5 seconds per day. I would absolutely love a bb 58 however the lack of date complication is something that would bother me. Even though I appreciate the symmetry of the dial. It is lovely to hear how affectionate you are towards your watches almost not wanting to draw a conclusion. Keep up the good work my friend!
Congrats on your beautiful Seiko collection and thank you 🙏 for the support!
The fact that the spb143 is even compared to the BB58 shamelessly says a lot about how good this watch is
Great video as Always, one of the best comparaisons between these two out there.
Thank you 🙏 my friend!
I have a 143 and I love it (now that the movement was fixed under warranty). But I would imagine that Tudor buyers don't have to worry if their watch will be running 25 + seconds slow after they take it out of the box.
Both great pieces... truly enjoy them both. ❤️
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Very interesting video, I'm going to choose one of this for my birthday . Thanks.
Happy early birthday and thank you 🙏 for watching!
Both are certified icons already!
💯 thank you 🙏 for watching!
Nice comparison. I have both watches as well and I totally agree with you. They are so similar, yet such different watches at the same time! If you have the money, get them both because they really can exist in a watch collection at the same time.
Agree with you and thank you for the support!
Great video! I have the blue BB58 and the bronze one but man do I like my two Seiko SPB147 and 149s they are such amazing watches. Wear so well and you are right, that coating is amazing. They survive everything. For the price the value for money ratio is unbeatable with the Seikos. Perfect watch that looks and feels perfect.
Thank for your support and I’m happy I’m not the only one that sees the amazing value in Seiko watches 👍🏼
One is original design. The other a homage. And that kinda defines the brands themselves and not just these particular pieces.
If you like a homage fair enough get the Tudor. I’ll stick with the Seiko.
Thank you 🙏 for watching!
I do prefer the aesthetic of the SPB143, it gives me both modern and vintage vibes, whereas the BB58 appeals more to vintage. I currently own my second SPB143, the first one, which I bought new, I ended up selling after having accuracy issues, it was gaining 25 seconds per day. After a thorough search on the internet about this issue, I found out that this model allegedly doesn't come regulated by the factory, but after a few months of use, it can settle in a decent accuracy range. For 1.2k I found that unacceptable and sold It after 3 months of ownership. A year later I bought another one, used, half of the price, and it is making +2.6 seconds per day.
That's useful advice, I'll look into used ones then. It reminds me of buying lower-end Marimbaphones; the cheaper manufacturers don't give the wood enough time to dry, so the wooden bars might ruin the pitch within 2 years. So I bought one that was 3 years old, knowing that if the pitch was still good, it would likely stay good.
Nice man and thank you 🙏 for watching!
Nice video. Great job! I just subscribed and looking forward to more of your content.
Thank you 🙏
Thanks for the video!!!
Thank you 🙏 for watching!
I am commenting as someone who is not a Seiko or Tudor fan in general. I think both have good watches that they offer but the majority of their offerings I don't care for. I am not really a fan of either of these watches lol HOWEVER Miguel I wanted to say Awesome Comparison man!!! This was a great video and your methodology was well thought out. I am looking forward to seeing new vids like this! New Sub btw 😉
Thank you 🙏 brother!
My wife brought me an SPB143 from the Seiko store in Tokyo on a business trip, killer watch, wearing it now.
That’s awesome 👏 and thank you 🙏 for the support!
I'm saving for the Tudor but would like both your a lucky guy 👍
Best of luck my friend and thank you for watching!
BB58 is very special in design, wear comfort, and value. In my opinion the best under $5k diver.
Agree and thank you 🙏 for watching!
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I have both and would agree overall. Both home runs just depends on your budget !👍
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Got the 143, went snorkeling and diving with it what I was on vacation in Hawaii. I would never do that with something like a Tudor or an Omega, and that’s a real shame because tool watches like these deserve a full life of travel and adventure. I know that in 20 years when I look down at my Seiko and see all the dings and scratches it will remind me of all the great times spent with my friends and family. Submariners never see saltwater
Same boat as you my friend and thank you for the support!!
I have both of these watches, and they are both excellent value in their own way. Now that my Seiko is on a Seiko rubber strap from the SPB 147, it wears as comfortably as the Tudor and makes the watch look even better. I encourage all SPB 143 owners to ditch that clumsy heavy steel bracelet in favor of a rubber strap of your choice.
Thank you 🙏 for the support and great tip 👍🏼
Do you still love both watches then ?
I still love them both!
I had the oppsite experience. Had QC issues on my BB58, dust on the dial and crystal, uneven lume plots and loose fliplock. Even though Tudor fixed it for me, it was quite disappointing after going through all the waiting and never connected with the watch when I got it back from their service, eventually sold it after a month. Picked up the SPB239 (the gilt version) few months aho, not a single qc issue for a Seiko, ran +10 seconds out of the box but got it regulated and now runs at +/-2 seconds a day. Made me spend on a bunch of straps cause that watch just looks great on every strap you throw on it. The diashield coating is just a great addition for a tool watch, barely any scratches on the watch except the clasp.
Would love to buy a BB58 again when Tudor updates the models and hopefully get rid of the faux rivets bracelet.
Man I hardly hear or any horror stories about Tudor watches. Thank you for watching!
@@SoCalWatchReviews You'd be surprised to know many exists. Particles on the dial or under the crystal is somewhat of a common problem, my AD just accepted straight away without asking a question.
@@Nightfury0695 😯
Great comparison!
Thank you Eve and have a blessed week!
Found the SPB143 a bit too heavy, ended up letting it go. My 58 blue I can wear all day and it’s perfect
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Great video my friend. You nailed it. The footage is incredible. I was planning to make the same comparison with my BB58 & SPB143 can you believe it? :)
Thank you and I’m looking forward to watching your video ❤️
I was so close to buying a BB38 but I’ve seen on some people’s 2/4 year old BB38s that the gold numbers on the bezel have faded almost to silver. Although aluminium, I was hoping the watch would have more longevity given the price. Now I’m unsure what to do.
Interesting, I’ve never seen that and mine is in prestine condition because I hardly wear it. Best of luck to you 👍🏼
The Tudor is NOT a Rolex and shouldn't be treated as a replacement for a Rolex, understand what you are buying when you get a Tudor. That being said, I have the BB58 and SPB143 and both are good for their own reasons. The issues the SPB143 has don't matter to me...I don't like bracelets so I removed the bracelet, and I have the tools and timegrapher to regulate my watches so timekeeping is no issue to me.
Agree and thank you for watching!
Both amazing pieces in their own ways as you showed in the video, but you know I'm biased towards the Tudor haha. #TudorBros for life! Great vid man ;)
Thank you my brother and #tudorbros forever!
Cool video, nice job
Thank you 🙏
Great video bro both watches are beautiful!
Thank you my brother!
Overall I love my Seiko, just wish it wasn’t so thick (almost 14mm) and could be a bit lighter. However, the accuracy is killing me….around -30 off the wrist and -40 to -45 on the wrist. People say “just have it regulated”, but that’s $250 and waiting several weeks. Local shops won’t regulate unless it’s a Rolex etc, just not enough profit in it for them apparently.
I hear you man, I’ve heard the same complaint from different people. I don’t wear my watches long enough for accuracy to be a thing, but Seiko definitely needs to do something about it.
Good comment. I sent my SPB143 back under warranty and now running +2 seconds.
Just bought my SPB143 last month. Still in the honeymoon phase. No regrets purchasing it. I enjoy looking at it every once in a while. I do have a question though. What kind of leather should I use to dress it up?
Congrats and I would recommend some sort of distressed leather 👍🏼
@@SoCalWatchReviews Oohh. Something like a dark brown distressed leather, right?
@@slayergundam Absolutely 👍🏼
@@SoCalWatchReviews thank you for the suggestion and I appreciate you replying to my inquiry. Hope to see more videos from you!
Owned both and sold both but looking to buy the BB58 again. The SPB143 movement accuracy is a big let down.
Thank you 🙏 for watching!
My brand new SPB143 with the 6R35 needed service from Seiko 2 months after I bought it. Seiko's movements (4R and 6R) are like playing roulette with loaded balls.
Man that sucks!
Oh no really what happened did accuracy change ?
@@daveLin104 Out of the store it ran more than 25 seconds slow. It didn't improve for the following 2 months. I sent it to Seiko under warranty. They regulated it and now it runs about 10-15 SPD fast.
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Where did you get the steel strap from? Can you please tell me the model and brand?
All the steel bracelets are OEM. However I buy my aftermarket steel bands from here:
unclestraps.com
I have a Tudor BB36 and a Seiko SPB147. Both were gifts and I love both of them. My Tudor is a scratch magnet, and I don't wear it as much as I do the Seiko. The Seiko will gain 5 minutes if I don't wear it for a day or two, every time. It keeps fairly good time when I'm wearing it, but gains like crazy when it's in the box. The Tudor keeps great time, but is currently my most scratched up watch. There are no scratches that I can see on the Seiko.
Very nice 👏 and thank you 🙏 for watching!
Man.. same experience for me with the SPB143. When worn all day every day it gains ~10 sec/day and some days manages to fall behind slightly to even things out. When worn 24/7 it's even better (maybe the dial up position when on the bedside table isn't doing it favors). When in the box, however, it's a horror show... 1-2 mins/day is the norm.
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Both are very nice in their own ways. As for the 6R35, the one in my baby alpinist looses 5sec a day.
Man you got lucky with that accuracy! Thank you 🙏 for watching!
Had to send my 143 back to the factory as it started -2spd and went to -30. They replaced the movement. Came back at +9 spd and it now +2. I hope it stays there. The 6r35 is a problematic movement
I’ve heard this from several sources! Thank you 🙏 for watching and sharing.
Seiko best looking diver.
Not even interested in more expensive ones anymore.
Thank you for watching
Have both. Love both. Wearing them for slightly different use cases. I don’t have to baby the Seiko. But the Tudor is better for that middle ground need between a tool watch and dress watch.
Agree and thank you 🙏 for watching!
Own both. Really like the SPB143 but love the BB58. The Seiko would be improved by a better regulated movement. Mine is poor running about 15secs fast per day. Accuracy in the Tudor is Rolex standard.
Thank you 🙏 for the support and I’m happy you own both 👏
Do you still have both
@@daveLin104I do. Though I don’t typically sell watches… am more of a hoarder in that way 🤦🏻♂️
@KeepingWatchUK 🤣 not enough wrist time to wear everything sadly. It is nice to see in watch box though 🤣
I can attest to the issue with Seiko’s 6R movements, gaining and losing minutes of time on different days… very disappointed.
Thanks for sharing 👍🏼
Can we add certina diver 38mm to the battle please..
I would love to get my hands on one 👍🏼
Is Seiko spb143 j ar coating only inside?
Yes 👍🏼
The Tudor is fantastic. ...but i went for the SPB 143 instead coz i knew i couldnt afford the Tudor. If i had the money to spare, i would have gone for the Tudor.
Congrats you got a fantastics watch!
SPB143 all day, every day. I really want to like Tudor, just can't deal with the snowflake hands. Obviously that makes them unique and it is heritage, I just can't do it. Same with Mercedes hands. A no go. Obviously quality wise these are not comparable as the price reflects.
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Your collection is hard these days. I have the bb58 and sold the 62mas. I miss it but it had to go.
Thanks for the support man and I hope somehow the SPB males it back into your collection 👍🏼
Went to a good friend, so I still have proximity to it. That’s enough for me. I had a good stretch with it.
Owned BB and SPB143 and the Seiko had quality issues. Misalligned bezel with poor action, -40 sec. a day and kind of top heavy, uncomfortable wear experience. The only thing going for it is the looks homaging Blancpain Batyscaphe.
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Personally I found the SPB143 agricultural, especially the bracelet. Its way overpriced imho. I loved the dial, but sold mine on. It felt very top heavy and heavy in general, which would rule the SPB143 out for me as a daily wear watch...the BB58 isn't the most comfy watch in the would but wears much better imho.
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spb is just so attractive considering the price.
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SPB143 with GMT would be awesome and definitely on my list. Tudor GMT is in another league, a step higher.
Agree 100% and thank you 🙏 for watching!
i love my BB58 - it's a fantastic watch. If I was in the market, I would buy sooner rather than later. The prices keep going up and discounts are hard to come by, if not impossible.
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Where is Omega Speedmaster 3511.50 ? Link doesnt work www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbp0h...🤔
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Snowflake hands kill it for me. Bought the JDM version of the 143. Prefer the look of the Seadweller / Sub and would have purchased the Pelagos but couldn't get over the ugly hour hand.
To each their own, that’s the beauty of watch collecting 👍🏼 thank you for watching!
Tudor BB 58. In my opinion is the best bang for buck watch in existence
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It's not even close. BB58 is a certified chronometer and a modern classic. The Seiko is just another lookalike with accuracy issues from Seiko.
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You really called the Seiko lookalike which has an orginal design from Seiko's first diver model from 1965 💀