Why does DOOM 3™ SUCK so GOOD!?

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    DOOM 3 Main Theme - Tweaker
    Dark Halls - DOOM 1 OST
    UNATCO Theme - Deus Ex OST
    Waiting For Romero to Play - DOOM 2 OST
    UNATCO Conversation Theme - Deus Ex OST
    Dr Evil Theme - Austin Powers OST
    Spooky Scary Skeletons - Andrew Gold
    Into Sandy's City - DOOM 2 OST
    Star Power Theme - Super Mario Bros OST
    The Imp's Song - DOOM 1 OST
    Running From Evil - DOOM 2 OST
    Endgame Music - DOOM 2 OST
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  • @TheBigBlackJoshi
    @TheBigBlackJoshi  Рік тому +69

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    • @J--12
      @J--12 Рік тому +8

      No.

    • @fernandojorge562
      @fernandojorge562 Рік тому +4

      Não

    • @lightyami5934
      @lightyami5934 Рік тому +1

      Gotta be honest...
      DOOM 3 ISN'T CANON AND IS A PARALLEL UNIVERSE STORY,SINCE THE DOOM SLAYER AIN'T A SCAREDY CAT WEAKA$$ BITSH!!!

    • @lightyami5934
      @lightyami5934 Рік тому +3

      Canonically DOOM 64 is actual DOOM3...whilst DOOM3 is a non-canon nightmare...

    • @deerecoyote2040
      @deerecoyote2040 Рік тому +1

      Hey, nice video, but as an autistic myself I can't help but be a little off-put by the jab at autistic people around 1:35 into the video. I'm sorry for whining about it, or being a snowflake or whatever, but please refrain from saying stuff like that in the future. I don't think it was your intention to be harmful, and it was just going with the idea that's caught on recently of using autism as a byword for stupid or idiotic. I don't blame you, it's just that stuff like that brings the experience of the video down for some people. Sorry again, I hope you see this, bye 👋

  • @AlexGore511
    @AlexGore511 Рік тому +464

    Doom 3, much like FEAR, is one of those games that managed to master dynamic lighting that basically 0 games even came close in about 20 years.

    • @jashloseher578
      @jashloseher578 Рік тому +57

      Also mirrors that actually work...!

    • @niks660097
      @niks660097 Рік тому +61

      FEAR was leagues ahead of doom, it also had volumetric lighting, basic indirect lighting, water caustics etc etc, FEAR was basically using 8th gen console graphics techniques in 6th/7th gen era..

    • @linkfreeman1998
      @linkfreeman1998 Рік тому +11

      @@niks660097 shame that the game sucks to use with all the issues in modern hardware compared to engines like Source, for example.

    • @DisorientedWanderer
      @DisorientedWanderer Рік тому +14

      ​@@linkfreeman1998 what do you mean? Genuinely curious. I reinstalled it recently and besides the occasional crash or screen tear of certain objects, it still seems to work fine and still feels great when you enter combat.

    • @Daimo83
      @Daimo83 Рік тому +8

      @@DisorientedWanderer Fear has a logitech mouse driver conflict where the game won't start. Maybe he's talking about that.

  • @valethemajor
    @valethemajor Рік тому +456

    Doom3 is one of my favorite games in terms of atmosphere and sound design. The 'feel' of Doom3 has never departed my mind.

    • @TheHanskov
      @TheHanskov Рік тому +55

      yea thats what people dont get, its one of the best horror FPS games of its time, while HL2 war revolutionary in its physics and story telling, doom 3 made modern horror games what they are today, like alien isolation and amnesia, people just shit on doom 3 cuz they expected doom or doom 2 with better graphics but thats not what the game is, i grew up with doom 1993, but doom 3 for me is a godlike horror game thats heavily underrated

    • @MossB87
      @MossB87 Рік тому +38

      @@TheHanskovbro I had to defend Doom 3 so hard back in the day. I loved Doom 3 and that’s coming from someone who played the original Dooms. I understand the criticisms but what it does well it does really well and I’d love a remake at some point.

    • @valethemajor
      @valethemajor Рік тому +11

      There's a guy who's been archiving Doom3 ambient soundscapes on YT... worth a shot to look those up

    • @shecklesmack9563
      @shecklesmack9563 Рік тому +19

      The atmosphere in Doom 3 was one of the best. The ambient computers, metal knocking, pipe sounds, smoke sounds it was so good.

    • @burningsheep4473
      @burningsheep4473 10 місяців тому +4

      The discussion around Doom 3 reminds me a bit of how Far Cry 2 was received. It may be a bit unusual, a bit cumbersome, but it also does some things really, really well. If a player either doesn't care about those aspects of the game or maybe doesn't even really notice them, well, then they are probably not going to like it.

  • @redman9493
    @redman9493 Рік тому +261

    Doom 1, 2 & 64 are classic metal.
    Doom 3 is black metal.
    Doom 4 & Eternal is speed metal.

    • @mado-wh4jv
      @mado-wh4jv Рік тому +42

      64 is "shit I forgot to charge my airpods before taking the spaceship here"

    • @BiggityBoggity8095
      @BiggityBoggity8095 Рік тому +22

      Doom 1, 2, and 64 are thrash. Doom 3 is numetal. 2016 and eternal are deathcore

    • @pop000690
      @pop000690 Рік тому +22

      @@BiggityBoggity8095 I'd say 64 is more Doom Metal (Ha) given its more spookier atmosphere

    • @LevitatingCups
      @LevitatingCups Рік тому +4

      1,2,64 are music, 3 is less of music, 4 and eternal are music again but now with some weed injected to it

    • @Web720
      @Web720 Рік тому +8

      64 is like an inbetween 1/2 and 3 because of the N64 hardware, less action packed and more horror.

  • @mucke7907
    @mucke7907 Рік тому +175

    How is every one forgetting that Half Life's Story idea was a spin on the first Dooms story. Doom 3 really is what Carmac wanted to do in Doom 1.

    • @NKWittmann
      @NKWittmann Рік тому

      Yeah HL elaborated on Doom and also Quake's story. HL tells the story much better with newer tech, but it was all there in Quake, the gov cover-up, facing the military then going to another dimension to defeat an entity that sends its minions into secret research facilities on Earth...

    • @skornie123
      @skornie123 11 місяців тому +16

      I think rather what Tom Hall wanted to do since he wrote the more realistic and story heavy aspects of Doom like the scenario that everything starts out mundane and turns into chaos.
      Carmack is famous for saying "Story in a videogame is like Story in porn...".
      But I do agree that throughout the years Carmacks mind changed when Doom 3 was developed

    • @mucke7907
      @mucke7907 11 місяців тому +10

      @@skornie123 Yes, you are right about that, Tom was more the story pusher than Carmac. And Half Life showed that Tom was rigth, but I also think, Doom 1/2 was not ready at the time.

    • @user-ew7vj3hw9m
      @user-ew7vj3hw9m 8 місяців тому +10

      Tbf at the doom 1 was considered thriller or lite horror at the time because no one game has looked like that

    • @judsongaiden9878
      @judsongaiden9878 Місяць тому +2

      What if Do0mguy is related to Adrian Shephard? And why is his name spelled "Shephard" and not "Shepherd?"

  • @gyanko8147
    @gyanko8147 Рік тому +129

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  • @expio4257
    @expio4257 Рік тому +927

    Doom 3's biggest problem has always been that it's just alright when everything that was coming out around the same time was either amazing or revolutionary.
    Edit: considering I accidentally started a war in the comments, I'll say this:
    I think Doom 3 is a fine game, and unlike some people I don't get butthurt about it "not being a real Doom game". My point is that yes, Doom 3 is a good game, but it had this misfortune of coming out in possibly the most stacked year in gaming history and compared to the many other games coming out around the same time, it doesn't nearly have as much legacy or staying power as those other games like HL2, WoW, etc. Still Doom 3 is fun and I'm glad people are still enjoying it all these years later.

    • @independentthought3390
      @independentthought3390 Рік тому +65

      It did age better than anything from that time, though.

    • @expio4257
      @expio4257 Рік тому +102

      @independentthought3390 In some aspects, yes. I'd say Doom 3 looks better than Farcry or Halo 2, and has better lighting than Half-Life 2, but Halo 2 and Half-Life 2 are more interesting and memorable games than Doom 3. Both are still considered some of the best games of all time, an honor Doom 3 is unlikely to ever receive frankly.

    • @independentthought3390
      @independentthought3390 Рік тому +35

      @@expio4257 Just recently tried Half Life 2 for the first time in about 12 years, and couldn't even finish it. Level design is just too poor. Had no problems finishing Doom 3.

    • @expio4257
      @expio4257 Рік тому +54

      @independentthought3390 Well, that's a shame. I still prefer HL2, but you do you.

    • @Web720
      @Web720 Рік тому +36

      No, it was revolutionary at the time but became alright afterwards. You got it backwards.

  • @DN_123
    @DN_123 Рік тому +239

    I can still remember being terrified as a kid when the demons start getting summoned and never managed to beat the game. But playing it as a grown up, the game is actually a decent fps horror shooter just like fear

    • @kawaiidestruktor7809
      @kawaiidestruktor7809 Рік тому +15

      i think that doom 3 is a decent horror fps, but fear is the best horror fps, it's just so goddamn fun to play

    • @DN_123
      @DN_123 Рік тому +4

      @@kawaiidestruktor7809 indeed, kind of sad what happened to fear after 3. Though, the coop is fun as hell to play.

    • @josedorsaith5261
      @josedorsaith5261 Рік тому +1

      ​@@DN_123
      Have you played TREPANG 2 yet?

    • @DN_123
      @DN_123 Рік тому +3

      @@josedorsaith5261 nope, I did notice youtube recommending me about that game. Haven't seen it yet. I assume it's some sort of fps

    • @DisorientedWanderer
      @DisorientedWanderer Рік тому

      ​@@DN_123 I don't know a lot about it either. All I know is someone really loved the ai and combat in Fear and wanted to make a game in the same feel and from what I experienced in the demo, they nailed it to a T. It's extremely fun and made me reinstall fear until I can spare the money for it. If you can afford it and your PC can handle it (mine barely handled it on medium but my PC is middle of the road quality) I highly recommend trying out the demo to see if you like it before spending money on it but from what I see, mostly everyone is loving it.

  • @ttpbroadcastingcompany.4460
    @ttpbroadcastingcompany.4460 Рік тому +297

    Call me boring, but I actually love reading through the various emails of the employees. I like to imagine what each employee was doing when they wrote this email, what they looked like, where they worked, etc. It gives a sense of just how massive the facility really was before the invasion happened. Plus, it was my first real Doom game bar playing the original on some random site.

    • @Uallysdrgnvevo
      @Uallysdrgnvevo Рік тому +47

      Nah I get you, I found it one of the best parts for some reason. Reading about two dudes bickering over DND and a stolen dice was actually kinda funny lmao

    • @DisorientedWanderer
      @DisorientedWanderer Рік тому +22

      You're not alone. I know a lot of people hate text and audio logs but I enjoy them because in a quiet world full of monsters and darkness, it gives some life to the environment like how some games throw in NPCs bickering to each other in context of the world to give it life.

    • @ipostfunnymemesforfunandgi4738
      @ipostfunnymemesforfunandgi4738 11 місяців тому +5

      Wait what dnd missing dice wtf were they doing in the company back then

    • @burningsheep4473
      @burningsheep4473 10 місяців тому +12

      It was good world-building. They simply put in a lot of effort into making Doom 3 something more like Half Life. A place that isn't just there so that somebody can shoot at demons.

    • @DanielHernandez-ki3ch
      @DanielHernandez-ki3ch 10 місяців тому

      Same!!

  • @jonbaxter2254
    @jonbaxter2254 Рік тому +727

    I love the idea of this shredded marine struggling to hold a gun and also a torch at the same time, and just chosing to hold one or the other.
    Truly marines are God's special children.

    • @rorysimpson8716
      @rorysimpson8716 Рік тому

      Arnold Schwarzenegger in his prime would've wound up with missing teeth if he tried to fire a shotgun one handed. The internet is full of videos of people f**king themselves up trying it.

    • @30cal23
      @30cal23 Рік тому +87

      all those crayolas addled his brain i guess, or hes never heard of DUCT TAPE

    • @SpecShadow
      @SpecShadow Рік тому +59

      Give him a break, he's from the "special" forces

    • @windwind3170
      @windwind3170 Рік тому +38

      He's using his other hand to munch on UAC-issued crayons.

    • @stratejic1020
      @stratejic1020 Рік тому +15

      Then play the BFG edition, also the reason you can't do both is because it's supposed to balance out the horror and the action because you're supposed to use the flashlight to see where the enemy is in the dark and memorize where they are and actually use your brain to take them out.
      But haters always look for a way to make fun of something they don't like even if it's small

  • @Grandmastergav86
    @Grandmastergav86 11 місяців тому +25

    It's flawed but I like Doom 3's commitment to a darker theme far more than I enjoy the doll collecting in 2016 and Eternal tbh.

    • @Le-Monade
      @Le-Monade 4 місяці тому +4

      I REALLY hope they make another horror-based Doom game. I love the franchise as a whole but Doom 3 was my first, and the game blew my mind as a kid. Will never forget my first playthrough

    • @nomad_boreal
      @nomad_boreal Місяць тому

      A Doom/System Shock crossover would be like a dream come true for me. So far though Doom 3 is the closest we've come to that.

  • @c0ntrolledchaos
    @c0ntrolledchaos Рік тому +111

    i ran through doom 3 again recently, it holds up pretty well with it's lighting and cramped design. i wound up just looking up the locker codes halfway through because it's so tedious to backtrack and look for the right PDA's

    • @noviciernocive7967
      @noviciernocive7967 Рік тому +9

      good thing that doomwiki brings the PDA codes just in case, RIP martian buddy page.

  • @lactosetheintolerant4104
    @lactosetheintolerant4104 Рік тому +102

    Fun fact: The doom 3 shotgun, despite being labeled a shotgun is somehow not a shotgun, but a 300 year old blunderbuss.

    • @yourmanjimbo1302
      @yourmanjimbo1302 Рік тому +8

      nice pfp

    • @DisorientedWanderer
      @DisorientedWanderer Рік тому +18

      That would explain the atrocious spread. You know you fucked up a shotgun when you have to press the barrel against your enemy for it to be effective. Plus it just looks kinda ugly.

    • @yourmanjimbo1302
      @yourmanjimbo1302 Рік тому +7

      @@DisorientedWanderer also based pfp

    • @twinzzlers
      @twinzzlers 9 місяців тому +3

      I've never had a problem with it, just shoot up close or try to hit the head

    • @Haispawner
      @Haispawner 7 місяців тому +1

      ​@@twinzzlersWrong. You have to hit the center of mass not the head, aim for the torso.
      And the shotgun is supposed to be a close-range weapon, Doom 3 makes it a fucking melee weapon, it becomes more situational and less like a firearm.

  • @novakato2438
    @novakato2438 Рік тому +54

    You are probably the first reviewer who actually played original Doom3 (?), not the crappy BFG edition (at least HUD from OG Doom3). BFG version is easier for whatever reason, even if Doom3 was never hard. People back in a days misunderstood this game, Doom3 was slow paced FPS with "mah immersive sim" elements (System Shock 2 vibes was huge), not a meat grinder shooter, absolutly loved it (not a fan of new Doom games, I guess I just burned out at boomer shooters). And sound design was top notch.

    • @0ffguy248
      @0ffguy248 Рік тому +2

      ​@@Richard-vm2mf i guess he is talking about the pda system and all the interactivity this game has

    • @mado-wh4jv
      @mado-wh4jv Рік тому +5

      ​@@Richard-vm2mfThis game was more interactive than half life 2 and it came before it, yet only one of them get praised by it.

    • @morkgin2459
      @morkgin2459 Рік тому +4

      @@mado-wh4jv how is this game more interactive than half life 2?

    • @diegoleiva7242
      @diegoleiva7242 Рік тому +5

      My god, BFG is SO bad compared to the original Doom 3 I think it did a disservice. I can't say I've seen too many special editions of any games that actually made it worse. The aliasing and overall lighting became awful from what I remember. The original looked way better.

    • @eneco3965
      @eneco3965 Рік тому +2

      Let's be honest, the BFG edition is just better. You should've been able to toggle the flashlight like any other game.

  • @9ner
    @9ner 11 місяців тому +36

    Doom 3 is a terrific horror game. Just an unrelentingly chaotic experience, I was surprised how anxious I felt playing it after having beaten a number of other scary games. Doesn't deserve the hate and it certainly isn't average. As far as space horrors are concerned this is up there among the best. I feel sick thinking about playing it again lol.

    • @nojuanatall3281
      @nojuanatall3281 10 місяців тому +3

      Yeah this game spooked me so bad when it first came out.

    • @rezlogan4787
      @rezlogan4787 10 місяців тому +1

      I used to play Doom 3 BFG edition and get spooked. The thought of booting up choosing between gun or flashlight made me panic, so I haven’t bothered to try the original yet.

  • @gundammon
    @gundammon Рік тому +82

    I've said before that if you take the original Doom 1 and 2, and split its elements apart: Doom 3 is if you make a horror game, and Doom 2016 and Eternal are if you make an action game.
    In all honesty, I've played Doom 3 numerous times and had fun with it. I played Doom 2016 once and felt like I'd seen everything there was to see.

    • @liamdell6319
      @liamdell6319 Рік тому +21

      You can actually track the progression of Doom into becoming a horror game in Doom 3 by looking at the game releases. You have Doom 1 and 2, which are fast paced action/horror games, then there's the Playstaion port.
      The Playstation port of Doom was the first good port of Doom, even with it's level changes, but it's biggest difference was the soundtrack. The soundtrack for PS Doom was ambient and horrific, changing the entire tone of the game. Coupled with the controls being slower due to the hardware, PS Doom was the first step into being more of a horror game.
      Then we move to Doom 64. Neither PS Doom or 64 were developed by id, but they did share a developer, Midway Games. The entire design of 64, from the lighting to the demon designs, were clearly designed to be a horror game, and by sharing a composer, the music also reflected this.
      Then there's Doom 3 which is self explanatory.

    • @mado-wh4jv
      @mado-wh4jv Рік тому +28

      ​@@liamdell6319doom 1 and 2, despite popular belief, are more similar to doom 3 than the modern releases, the original game even has creepy sounding soundtracks here and there. Is hard to tell whether or not some horrors aspects of it were intentional or experimentation, but what it is a fact is that there was an attempt since the Classics to offer such experience even if it was not the center of the game.

    • @NKWittmann
      @NKWittmann Рік тому +5

      ​@@mado-wh4jvthe tech limitations are what held OG Doom from being Doom 3, the game aimed at being creepy, the tech base is full of locked doors and secrets, but the same limitations had you run at 50mph and mow down mass amounts of enemies. As the games, mods and expansion progressed it moved to be focused more on challenging gameplay and that's why it's so fondly remembered IMO, that's also what modern Doom games replicate. They emulate very well the OG Doom experience for what they were instead of what they were supposed to be !
      Still, I replayed D3 way more than I ever did the more recent ones, it really reminds me of the movies of the times like Jurassic Park, Virus, Resident Evil, Event Horizon all mixed together. Science was shiny and new but also dangerous, unreliable and bringing ancient mysteries to life...

    • @BerryDeLajt
      @BerryDeLajt 11 місяців тому +5

      DOOM 2016 has actually taken alot of inspiration from DOOM3, but the maps in 2016 are atleast memorable, then the ones in DOOM3. the enviornment in it does look good too, but 2016 did it way better imo. But I still really do like how the DOOM3 hell looks, it's sick!

  • @turdgoblin6113
    @turdgoblin6113 11 місяців тому +19

    Doom 3 is my all time favorite doom ever!! Been playing doom since 1994, and 3 is the only one in recent history that blew me away! I always go back to doom 3 continuously!

  • @melancholyflapper7027
    @melancholyflapper7027 Рік тому +33

    Prey 2017 is a very different game but it also does the interactable terminal stuff quite well, to the point I think that its particular take on it was inspired by Doom 3 and DXHR.

    • @theredking254
      @theredking254 Рік тому +3

      I was about to mention Prey's screens myself!

    • @DisorientedWanderer
      @DisorientedWanderer Рік тому +13

      The original Prey had interactive screens as well but it was made on the same engine as doom 3 so I think it makes sense they'd keep that aspect.

  • @user-hn1kh4zv5c
    @user-hn1kh4zv5c Рік тому +26

    Funny thing is I didn't even know Doom 3 was considered bad until years later. When I was a kid, everyone seemed to love it and in the circles I interacted with the number of its fans rivaled those of Half-Life 2 and 3D GTA games,

    • @independentthought3390
      @independentthought3390 Рік тому +21

      Yeah, hating on Doom 3 is a very recent concept. Doom 3 was considered pretty good when it was released.

    • @NKWittmann
      @NKWittmann Рік тому +4

      Yes exactly it was all the rage at the time

    • @DerMeister821
      @DerMeister821 Рік тому +2

      @@NKWittmann the first half of Rage was pretty good too.

    • @DisorientedWanderer
      @DisorientedWanderer Рік тому +4

      @@DerMeister821 ah yes, the John Goodman car game. I thought it was alright.

    • @twinzzlers
      @twinzzlers 9 місяців тому +6

      It isn't really hated, the only people who hate it are the ones that got in after 2016

  • @audiosurfarchive
    @audiosurfarchive Рік тому +16

    UAC be like: _"I've been getting really into 'hell'. Both as a mindset and as something to strive for, in an organizational sense. There's something intensely beautiful about it."_

    • @thekingfishreturns
      @thekingfishreturns Рік тому +1

      (promptly gets filled with 143 rounds from my AMG)

    • @audiosurfarchive
      @audiosurfarchive Рік тому

      @@thekingfishreturns POWER IN MISERY

    • @DisorientedWanderer
      @DisorientedWanderer Рік тому

      That's interesting and all sir, but can I ask why we're making a portal that goes specifically to hell and why we keep sending 5 scientists and only one guard in to check it out? I feel like that's counter productive to our research, especially since our lead biological researcher came back with no skin.

  • @Enkarashaddam
    @Enkarashaddam Рік тому +27

    Doom 3 will always have a special place in my heart. Nothing comes close to the feeling of dread on some of the levels. And Doom 3 taught me how to code. I mean seriously it's a valuable game

  • @Clarissa_Star
    @Clarissa_Star Рік тому +97

    As heretical as this may sound to most/some, I actually quite like Doom 3, a little bit of fun, even.
    With that said, I think it would do better as a spinoff to Doom.

    • @linusnottech
      @linusnottech 3 місяці тому

      Nah, you’re fine. Doom 3 has always been mixed among fans it seems.

  • @mannhouse8014
    @mannhouse8014 Рік тому +10

    10:23 Actually, I love games like this where you’re some random fucker just trying to survive and not a demigod, it’s why Gordon Freeman is one of my favorite protagonists. It makes it all the more badass imo. Good video

  • @nikushim6665
    @nikushim6665 10 місяців тому +11

    @3:41 "Story is pretty much ripped from half life" - it's the other way around. The UAC experimenting with teleporters and opening a gate to hell is mentioned in the original doom game (it also predates event horizon by about five years).

    • @paperclip6377
      @paperclip6377 Місяць тому

      Difference is that half life begins with just another day at work. While doom 1 begins when things have already gone wrong.

    • @CZpersi
      @CZpersi 4 дні тому

      @@paperclip6377 Event Horizon creators actually cited the original Doom as one of their inspirations.

    • @CZpersi
      @CZpersi 4 дні тому

      @@paperclip6377 Event Horizon creators actually cited the original Doom as one of their inspirations.

    • @paperclip6377
      @paperclip6377 4 дні тому

      @@CZpersi I was talking about Half Life though

  • @Immolator772
    @Immolator772 Рік тому +15

    I honestly loved Doom 3. It was more darker, and felt more like survival game than power fantasy, which makes more sense he is fighting the forces of darkness and the story was quite decent. But yeah not being able dual wield flashlight and pistol is quite stupid but i guess intentional.

    • @jashloseher578
      @jashloseher578 Рік тому

      It's the only gun that could feasibly be able to feature the flashlight held in the off-hand by the marine, anyway.

    • @Immolator772
      @Immolator772 Рік тому

      @@jashloseher578 yeah, it was quite stupid. Also they are on Mars but couldn't figure out to put flashlights on the armor of the Marines.

  • @VivekSingh-tj8qo
    @VivekSingh-tj8qo 10 місяців тому +10

    Playing Doom 3 was one of the most memorable gaming experiences i had as a teenager. They wanted to make a horror fps and they did a damn good job.

  • @fotdk1
    @fotdk1 Рік тому +18

    10:23 that's why I found doom 3 really engaging, you're just some jarhead caught up in Ragnarok and trying not to die. You basically are just there to shove the cube in the hellhole and then you're carted off while you have a PTSD attack. New doom games are fun, but doom 3 seemed to give it hell its horror by not having intense lore around it. It's an all encompassing dimension of pain and suffering, and listening to the audio of simon garlick being hunted by demons while watching the flames illuminate the hell door was probably one of the most effective attempts of horror in that game.

    • @bluebay0
      @bluebay0 Рік тому +1

      Good take.

    • @mannhouse8014
      @mannhouse8014 Рік тому

      Same

    • @711ramen4
      @711ramen4 Рік тому +3

      Exactly. I found Nu Doom and Eternal a little insufferable with how overpowered and badass the marine comes off.

    • @bluebay0
      @bluebay0 Рік тому +1

      @@711ramen4 We can't have our cake and eat it too, not with how games have evolved. OG Doom could pull off both because the lack of story and character definition/development meant you could either view/play it as a horror game or a power fantasy. This is all the justification we need to have separate kinds of Doom games. id should balance 2016 and Eternal with a return to the horror that Doom 3 tried and largely succeeded as a separate release.

  • @tunnelrunner8253
    @tunnelrunner8253 Рік тому +28

    I LOVE Doom 3, definitely my favorite out of the series its undeniably rough around the edges but it will always hold a place in my heart.

  • @viscountrainbows2857
    @viscountrainbows2857 Рік тому +77

    "The worst thing about Hell is the paperwork"
    I have watched Beetlejuice enough times to say this is true.

  • @darekgajda248
    @darekgajda248 Рік тому +8

    Doom 3 was an amazing game, it never sucked.

  • @DarkstarArchangel
    @DarkstarArchangel Рік тому +23

    My problem with Doom 3 is the movement (and the shotgun) it was not meant to be a platformer. If you chose EFR in Alpha Labs 4 the jumping was hard to control forcing you to always sprint, it gets worse when you reach the hell level. It is actually good as a horror shooter game.

    • @stratejic1020
      @stratejic1020 Рік тому +10

      Good thing there isn't much platforming and the platforming parts aren't impossible

    • @burningsheep4473
      @burningsheep4473 10 місяців тому +4

      To be honest, I don't remember any of the platforming. I believe you, but even though I recently replayed it, I don't remember. Can't have been that bad ;)

    • @jakelexington7610
      @jakelexington7610 10 місяців тому

      The shotgun is absolutely fine besides its afx

    • @ninja_tony
      @ninja_tony 4 дні тому

      I certainly don’t think “platforming” when I think of Doom 3. Especially considering the modern Doom games actually ARE [platforming games (which I can’t stand).

  • @TheSerpentKing
    @TheSerpentKing 10 місяців тому +5

    I loved it. Those PDAs let you dive into the atmosphere of everyone's scary experiences in this claustrophobic environment. Also the switch between flashlight and gunfight was awesome, one second you carefully explore and then you get jumped by demons and only your gunshots lighten up the room - it was so scary but when you carefully stacked your ammo and arsenal it would also turn into the typical Doom slaughterhouse.

    • @majorgear1021
      @majorgear1021 7 місяців тому

      Exactly. I really like the exploration and finding PDAs to learn more about what happened at the facility.
      I’m on edge while reading since something could jump out at me while my eyes are on the PDA screen.

  • @cosmicpanda7043
    @cosmicpanda7043 Рік тому +11

    The non-menu based screens are something I wish was used more often, but there are still games that have used it. Prey made pretty good use of it, and I think Mankind Divided did it too, though I could be misremembering things

    • @brodiscool2752
      @brodiscool2752 5 днів тому

      Ultrakill uses the same exact computer screen system for its terminals and some level objects. Carts and the general-use info terminal found at the start of each level are the main examples.
      In UK aside from terminals computer screens are incredibly simple, the only other complex instance is during the second secret level.

  • @GoGsApostle
    @GoGsApostle Рік тому +28

    Doom 3 has a special place for me, it being my entry into the series. Though it's not the best I'm still very fond of it

  • @real7854
    @real7854 Рік тому +6

    I just recently beat/finished all Doom 3 campaigns. if i could go back in time and do it all over again i would. 9 year old me was too scared to finish it, years later, now i just LOVE IT

  • @dangox3370
    @dangox3370 Рік тому +6

    Not a great Doom game but I appreciate the fact that the gameplay loop is more about exploring labyrinths with monsters hiding around corners and in closets rather than the Doom 2016 trend of locking you in an arena while monsters spawn in around you. The former feels more like Doom to me while the latter is literally Serious Sam.

  • @ferriusnillan5323
    @ferriusnillan5323 Рік тому +8

    Akshually... SiN Episodes managed to bring the same neat touch pad like computer UI, the only little problem it had is terrible sales and "dynamic" difficulty system. And because it was going episodic. Kick ass music tho.

    • @kilianbernardeau6595
      @kilianbernardeau6595 Рік тому +1

      I guess we can give an honourable mention to Deus Ex 2011 and 2016 as well !

  • @laku-tikku554
    @laku-tikku554 Рік тому +6

    DOOM 3 is the crank 2 of video games. A thing of all time

  • @ImStillMarz
    @ImStillMarz 8 місяців тому +3

    Even in the BFG edition, i still was paranoid because i couldn't handle some of the jumpscares and the zombies hiding in dark crevices etc

  • @jordanandonov8856
    @jordanandonov8856 Рік тому +6

    It terrified me beyond belief. I had to play with my uncle in order to beat the game. This was also my first DOOM game and I thought for a long time it was supposed to be a horror franchise. Honestly, DOOM 3 holds a special place in my heart. Its a bad DOOM game, but its a good game on its own.

  • @brandcannon
    @brandcannon 10 місяців тому +4

    Doom 3 with some mods is literally one of the most unique experiences

  • @orlandogodoy3233
    @orlandogodoy3233 Рік тому +2

    Started playing Doom 3, and it feels more immersive and tense than the Super Mario Edgelord crap we have now.

  • @theidiatics3379
    @theidiatics3379 Місяць тому +3

    3:42 wasnt the original doom story about how a teleportation at a secret base went wrong their probably using the same story (kinda) as the original

  • @voidfalse
    @voidfalse Рік тому +8

    I didn't like Doom3 when it came out. But recently I've tried it with doom3 VR mod and it was a total blast!

    • @DisorientedWanderer
      @DisorientedWanderer Рік тому +1

      There's another youtuber that talks about doom 3 VR briefly in his video on the main game and how it has a completely different feel to the original. I wish I had a headset to try it but I worry it'd be a waste of money because my glasses might get in the way and ruin the experience.

    • @voidfalse
      @voidfalse Рік тому

      @@DisorientedWanderer All headsets are designed with glasses in mind

    • @DisorientedWanderer
      @DisorientedWanderer Рік тому

      @@voidfalse well shit I'm gonna have to start saving up then. They look like they wouldn't be. Or at least the psvr I checked out one day looked like it wouldn't work with my square ass nerd glasses

  • @christiangottsacker6932
    @christiangottsacker6932 11 місяців тому +2

    Prey 2017 doubles down on the interactive computer screens, and even updates it so you can read it from your view where you're currently standing, or a snap-to-computer-screen zoom in feature so it's full screen. Great game.

  • @malicant123
    @malicant123 29 днів тому +1

    I'm 37, so I'm old enough to remember Doom when it arrived. My dad bought it and used to let me watch him play (much to my mother's chagrin). I was used to nintendo and Sega games, so this was totally new. I still play Doom 30 years later, and I consider it a contender for the title of greatest game of all time.

  • @andreasottohansen7338
    @andreasottohansen7338 10 місяців тому +4

    to paraphrase a wise man "if the worst game in your series is Doom 3, you got a pretty good one"

    • @majorgear1021
      @majorgear1021 7 місяців тому +1

      Exactly. These days we are getting games like Redfall and Gollum.

    • @linusnottech
      @linusnottech 3 місяці тому

      With all things considered, yeah pretty much.

  • @HelloKolla
    @HelloKolla Рік тому +5

    Prey did the whole screen interaction thing too, give it some credit lmao
    Also please review Prey Joshi man, we need to remember and celebrate the Arkane of old ✊🏾

    • @math_hammer
      @math_hammer Рік тому +1

      Which prey? 2006 original or the game that was forced to be called it? Because if it's the 06 original it runs on the same engine as doom 3

    • @atomicanachronism8849
      @atomicanachronism8849 Рік тому +2

      The 2017 one

    • @RonnieMcSneed
      @RonnieMcSneed Рік тому

      Quake 4 too, same engine though

  • @kalkuttadrop6371
    @kalkuttadrop6371 Місяць тому +2

    It's been said this is more a sequel to Doom 1 and 2's PS1 versions. Those are slower paced, have creepy ambient music, and the best creepy lighting the ps1 could handle.

  • @morgan3392
    @morgan3392 11 місяців тому +3

    I loved how immersive and spooky (at least the early game was spooky) Doom 3 was. It was one of my favorite games as a child. I was just a child, though, but I still enjoy replaying it.

  • @MiniWheatHoore
    @MiniWheatHoore Рік тому

    Always excited to see notifications for your videos on my phone. Easily the hardest I laugh every time

  • @thej2241
    @thej2241 Рік тому +5

    I personally love this game but it is very divisive and I can see why a lot of people don’t like it

  • @sackcrusher6974
    @sackcrusher6974 Рік тому +1

    I just found this channel and I have not laughed this hard at UA-cam videos in a long time. Please never stop making these videos.

  • @dirtyrat886
    @dirtyrat886 Рік тому

    1:58 that was the smoothest transition to a ad I have ever seen.

  • @lazarus8453
    @lazarus8453 Рік тому +3

    Doom 3 is bad because shotgun is bad. You cannot make good Doom game without good shoutgun.

  • @firestuka8850
    @firestuka8850 Рік тому +5

    I enjoyed it when it came out. I played it coop with my sister on PC and played the Last Man Standing mod.
    When BFG VR Fully Possesssd was available, I played it and have enjoyed the truly perfect Doom expeirence. I used my two hands to murder demons. 10/10

  • @shannaliara7694
    @shannaliara7694 Рік тому

    OMG, the thumbnail is comedic gold with Hammonds face, I'm intrigued with video 🤣😏
    Yeah, Top Gear fan here 😅

  • @LegionIscariot
    @LegionIscariot Місяць тому +1

    I love everything about Doom 3. The atmosphere. The sound design. The characters. The pacing. The combat. I love the flashlight mechanic. I like this idea of walking around in the dark vulnerable. Having to choose between being able to see and being able to shoot. I think it creates great tension.
    I see people criticize Doom 3's protagonist because he's not some unstoppable demigod like in the 2016 reboot. I see nothing wrong with Doom 3 guy just being a capable marine 🤷‍♂️

  • @Antadoom_
    @Antadoom_ 11 місяців тому

    I'm new to doom eternal, and I'm trying to watch different videos on it to get an idea of it, I came across your video, and I instantly liked and subscribed. Good description

  • @laurent.treguier
    @laurent.treguier Рік тому +2

    9:14
    Prey (2017) did pretty much the same for its computer interactions, but that's the only game that comes to mind

  • @PetriCore.
    @PetriCore. Рік тому +3

    Doom 3 just needs a straight-up remake one of these days (maybe framed in the context of being a prequel to Doom 2016 or something). The atmosphere and general ambient "vibe" of the game is something I've always distinctly remembered and loved, despite the fact I don't think I ever actually beat it, despite trying multiple times over the years.
    All it really needs is tighter pacing and gunplay. One of the criticisms that I occasionally see crop up is that the game tries to both be horror and action, but I think that's something that needs to make a comeback. Half-Life 1 is very much a horror game up until "We've Got Hostiles". Duke Nukem 3D's second episode also has a very creepy "Alien" thing going on, and the whole game is more dark thematically than you'd think if you've never played it. FEAR really needs no explanation.
    These games made you feel like a badass *because* you're surviving a horrific experience, where the world might be coming to an end and death is around every corner, not because the main character is constantly portrayed as an unflappable, invincible badass.

  • @Supercohboy
    @Supercohboy Рік тому +1

    9:14 you haven't played the newer PREY I take it?
    And how it's done in the backend is surprisingly simple resource-wise iirc, but yeah this feature cost the devs untold amounts of time and money, and it was mentioned in interviews years after release.

  • @boomstickrus7915
    @boomstickrus7915 Рік тому +1

    I recently played DOOM 3's singleplayer for the first time since 2004/2005 and it was certainly different than DOOM 2016/Eternal and even the 100000000000 different high speed mods the original DOOM singleplayers gave. However, the multiplayer is a batshit crazy paced rush on par with Quake 3 Arena/Live and if you're willing to give the multiplayer a chance, I'd love to get some games in!

  • @mekolame
    @mekolame Рік тому

    Doom 1 and 2 music spread throughout this video just makes it feel phenomenal. Keep up the good work man!

  • @compmanio36
    @compmanio36 21 день тому

    The OG Prey and Quake 4 both do the interactive UI on screens bit, but they were both the same IdTech4 engine.

  • @BababooeyGooey
    @BababooeyGooey 10 місяців тому

    I wanna say the only other game that does something similar with Doom 3's computer interaction is Prey 2017. It's handy because you can quickly "scroll" over the screen just like in Doom 3, but you can hit a key to focus on the screen when you need/want to. Also afaik Prey does something with this that I haven't seen in other games; that is when you enter keyboard mode on the computers, you can use your real life keyboard to type in passwords. It's seldom used but is shockingly fun and novel when it happens.

  • @GameRevo
    @GameRevo Рік тому +4

    just thinkin' bout the funny skeleton button at 6:43

  • @justelisISkauno
    @justelisISkauno 10 місяців тому +1

    Dr. Malcolm Betruger looks similar to Dr. William Weir from movie event horizon

  • @theguiltypaytheprice.4899
    @theguiltypaytheprice.4899 Рік тому +1

    Quake 4 used the same interactive computer UI.

  • @I_hunt_lolis
    @I_hunt_lolis 6 місяців тому

    11:15 when targets are far away or when chaingun runs out of ammo...

    • @TheBigBlackJoshi
      @TheBigBlackJoshi  6 місяців тому

      If you don't suck at ammo conservation and hitting your target, it's a moot point

  • @ncrvako
    @ncrvako Рік тому +3

    This is was my brother's pre teen love. I became overhyped bcs of him. The main theme itself is classic.

    • @DisorientedWanderer
      @DisorientedWanderer Рік тому +1

      That main theme is still awesome today. I used to have it as my ringtone but eventually switched to the MGS codex ringtone. May switch back because too many UA-cam videos keep tripping me out when they throw that in out of nowhere

  • @wolfgangfrost8043
    @wolfgangfrost8043 10 місяців тому +1

    Doom 3 was a game that didn't quite live up to the promise of it's E3 trailers and early tech demos, but at least it came out basically on time and was quite the decent product for that era! I've had a love hate relationship with the game over the nearly 2 decades since release, but overall I agree that it stumbled brilliantly and said "I meant to do that!" and the industry was just like "Oh yes you did! Going back to the roots, 4 player deathmatch only!"

  • @144p-rnd
    @144p-rnd Рік тому

    9:18 Prey (2017) does interactive computer screens well

  • @Telemarathon
    @Telemarathon Рік тому

    Prey 2017 does the in-game computer UI thing and takes it to the next level by letting you shoot foam darts at computer screens to open doors and shit.

  • @Hegaems
    @Hegaems Рік тому

    09:14 Prey (2017) also has similar interactive computer screens

  • @drakkenmensch
    @drakkenmensch 11 місяців тому +1

    I remember the DRM on this son of a bitch refusing to let me play because I had a CD-RW on my PC and the game interpreted it as a piracy-making machine.

  • @robloxplayer28734
    @robloxplayer28734 Рік тому +1

    what difficulty setting did you play this game

  • @ErosXCaos
    @ErosXCaos 10 місяців тому +1

    Doom 3 is awesome. Gameplay, graphics, sound, lighting were more than a decade ahead of everybody.

  • @DanielLaixer
    @DanielLaixer 10 місяців тому

    7:08 That's Bill's voice actor from L4D lol

  • @HaplessOne
    @HaplessOne Рік тому +3

    Doom 3 is a great survival horror game, no one could convince me otherwise.

  • @Dinnerboneearthmover
    @Dinnerboneearthmover 26 днів тому +1

    "but what about Doom 3?"
    Lateralus starts playing

  • @keksdeeXD
    @keksdeeXD 11 місяців тому

    Joshi, please make a video about Stalker (SOC probably is the best choice), obviously you're very aware of it judging by the music in the afraid of monsters vid :D

  • @a.j.5186
    @a.j.5186 Рік тому +2

    At the "Immersion" part you should have put the skyrim song in xD
    every 2nd mod is immersive sth. ...

  • @TheJacklikesvideos
    @TheJacklikesvideos 10 місяців тому

    DOOM 3 was the first DOOM game to come out once i was old enough to just walk into a store and buy a game. so i did. and Return to Castle Wolfenstein. then they stopped selling physical copies of games :(
    all i remember is installing, booting it up, getting to the turkey puncher arcade booth, and punching turkeys until i turned it off forever.

  • @rederickfroders1978
    @rederickfroders1978 9 місяців тому +1

    Doom 3's idea was awesome, the start was powerful and very atmospheric. The problem is that it overstays its welcome quickly after. The maps arent anything that interesting, the monsters spawn in areas you would expect them to, and often in areas that are a bit, well, shit moves on the devs just to scare you, and the game also lacks any aesthetic that made Doom so addictive. And yes, a boring ass story. It should be about scientists opening a portal to hell and you being there to stop it, that is all.

    • @tacky4237
      @tacky4237 9 місяців тому

      For me the biggest problem is it is an ok game on its own but people wanted more stuff like doom 1 & 2.

  • @stateofopportunity1286
    @stateofopportunity1286 10 місяців тому +1

    I've played through the OSX, Xbox 360, and Xbone versions of Doom3 in Nightmare. Each is uniquely stressful and memorable.

  • @Ammado-xh8bq
    @Ammado-xh8bq Рік тому

    Prey (2017) did the computer screens like that with a certain setting

  • @saibot1246
    @saibot1246 Рік тому

    4:20
    XD with the music it's to much perfect

  • @nurbsivonsirup1416
    @nurbsivonsirup1416 10 місяців тому +1

    I had never played Doom 1 or 2, instead grew up on stuff like System Shock, Thief, Deus Ex. So when Doom 3 came around, I just played it like the survival horror shooter it's trying to be and frankly, had a lot of ... well, not fun per so, but lots of moments of being very impressed with the atmosphere and world design. Also, the thing they did with the UI where your crosshair turns into a cursor ON A SCREEN IN THE ACTUAL LEVEL was genius and for that alone D3 deserves to be named as one of the most influencial games in history.

  • @wyatthowser9688
    @wyatthowser9688 Рік тому

    What’s your twitch joshi??? I’ve gotta catch your streams

  • @aladdinsubuh8118
    @aladdinsubuh8118 10 місяців тому

    In the middle of night Yoshi just scream casually
    DOOOOOOOOOOOOM !!!!!
    yeah ain't using the family tv again

  • @fredschmitt456
    @fredschmitt456 10 місяців тому

    Whälp - I got used to hitting the quicksave button every time I came close to a darkly lit corner...

  • @KaikuPen
    @KaikuPen Місяць тому

    I replayed Doom 3 a while ago on my switch and recently played through Quake 2 enhanced on my deck and I was really surprised with how familiar the beet-to-beet gameplay felt…
    Although I didn’t have to habitually prepare to crouch in front of every opening door to avoid getting a fireball in the face in Quake 2.

  • @FELONIOUSBOLUSS
    @FELONIOUSBOLUSS Рік тому +1

    i think quake 4 also had the cool ingame computer screens

  • @MinnoqWV
    @MinnoqWV 9 місяців тому +1

    Honestly, my memory of this game is pretty positive and I remember it being talked about a lot. It was a great period for gaming so I guess it got overshadowed in some ways, but that's not to say people didn't love Doom 3. It was really genuinely scary, exciting, and the graphics were pretty well admired too. I guess you had to be there!

  • @scooterboi1703
    @scooterboi1703 3 місяці тому

    I was a young child when the doom movie with the rock came out and the DVD had a demo for doom 3 on it for anyone who remembers that

  • @isgmetrotheidiot1029
    @isgmetrotheidiot1029 Рік тому

    The closest of a recent game that I think does similar to Doom 3's interactive computer screens is Arkane Studios' Prey 2017 game.

  • @garden0fstone736
    @garden0fstone736 10 місяців тому +1

    Doom 3 came out fall of 2004 I was 12 years old at the time and I remember watching my father download the game onto the computer, at the time there were so many cool things about the game like the pda, interactive screens, graphics, space setting, and top notch horror. I used to be able to pretend I was there at work and would roleplay up to the half life like experiment gone wrong. After that the game terrified me. I got to hell and gave up cause I believe the computer just wouldn’t handle it. Even when imps spawn in it would kill frame rate. But I was so intrigued about the horror. Learning about employees through pda which was never done before that I know of. Beat it back in like 2017 then played the dlc through. Finally understood wtf was going on. Overall great game but now a little dated. And big edition wasn’t the same

  • @luketerrell5037
    @luketerrell5037 Рік тому +2

    Doom 3 was slated as being too slow… but I recently watch a kill count of the game, and hot dayum!!!! The onslaught of enemies at the later part of the game is just insane, it is far from slow!!!

  • @slay-many-foes1160
    @slay-many-foes1160 11 місяців тому

    Prey 2017 has the menu system that is used in this would recommend it doesn’t get enough spotlight.