Buying the WEIRDEST Cymbals I Could Find
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- Опубліковано 3 тра 2024
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Music used (background & playalongs)
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Stainless: Very Important Pineapple - Scoobadive
27" GMD Nebula: Wendigo -Carvings
4" hihats: Robot - Adelyn Paik
12" Paiste: Such a Beautiful Day - Sarah, the Illstrumentalist (Bass by Bryce Hardin)
16" Wuhan Blank: Eye Candy - Sven Lindvall
0:00 Stainless Crash Cymbal
4:22 27" GMD Nebula
7:24 4" Hihats
11:37 12" Paiste pstX 45 Ride
15:12 16" Wuhan Blank
Other Gear Used:
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The quest to find the weirdest cymbals out there continues! This is a more tame bunch but of course still weird. We check out a 19" stainless steel crash cymbal, the 27" GMD Nebula, a 16" b20 Wuhan crash blank, a set of 4" mini hihats, and the 12" Paiste DJs 45 Ride cymbal as a ride but also as a set of hihats with a GMD wide lip inverse bell as the bottom.
Buying the WEIRDEST Cymbals I Could Find
Which one of these are you putting on your kit? 🤔
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Nothing lmao
prob the blob 😂
Hopefully none
Maybe the first one
I already have the bell hats, but mine are Indian thumb bells... I hang them under a crash, I might try them on my HH stand after seeing your show, likely not though, unless for a special sound effect, I wouldn't do a gig with a set as my main driver... you'd spend half the gig staring at those little hats trying to hit them.
Wonder if there'll ever be a Drum Thing / Dankpods collab
That would be Incredible
Yaessss
I WOULD LOVE THAT SO MUCH!
fuck yes! I want to see them assemble the weirdest drumset that still sounds largely cromulent.
When you realize they're the same person 💀
I'm not a huge fan of most "trashy" cymbals outside of a good china, o-zone, or occasionally a dark dry ride...but that stainless cymbal surprised me. It's not something I could see myself using often, but I'd have one of those.
The more i heard him play it the more i liked it
Tgat sound caught me off guard as well.. it sounds so good
That Stoner Metal groove at 6:30 is awesome!
It'd be great for some early Alice in Chains.
Those cymbals sounded great for that track!
listen to some guys called Bossk, their track Heliopause is very similar. filth
@@louisbailie1349Thanks for the tip!
Woah, that blank sounds pretty good to be right now tbh; sounds like a decent washy crash/ride right now for a small kit
yeah! I'd absolutely buy that just as is
I have to agree. I thought it had a great ride sound for a small cymbal!
Agree!
Sounded rad. Closest thing to my old ass zildjian.
That stainless steel cymbal sounds like a combination of the perfect china, ocean waves and a rain stick. I loved it.
13:44 I had a beginner drumset that we bought for 50 bucks, and it sounded exactly like this cymbal 😂
There are higher grades of stainless that become magnetic again. If you want higher heat resistance for high temperature working environments, some alloys used in those are as magnetic as regular steel.
16:41 we shall never forget the bootleg cymbal lathe
4 inches is fine! And that Wuhan blank still sounds more like a standard cymbal than the others. Looking forward to seeing what you do to it!
9:58, Just casually plays bleed on 4inch hi-hats😂
It actually did really well with that 90s R&B track David chose.
@@hoilst265 right?
@@finnleithomczyk5292 It's a great luuuurve-makin' groove.
"Hey, baby, want four inches of pure pleasure?"
"Um-"
*pulls out tiny high-hats*
@@hoilst265 yessir
@@hoilst265 Dormitabis metal ending
That stainless would be perfect for just a hi-hats and crash / ride setup. Mid to low volume scenario where you don't need to blow the roof off.
6:30 That Doom Metal music while drumming is cool.
So... just Doom Metal? Doom metal usually has drumming.
@@HA11EYS_COM3TI think he meant Dave drumming to doom metal was neat.
I'm not a huge doom metal fan, but it's always a treat to hear
The use of the ride at 14:00 as a hat actually sounds great, lol. Color me shocked.
Doom Metal mentioned (played)! 😮
You should try a Factory Metal Gothic Radius, the bigger the better. Somehow its a pretty damn cool washy ride, the 26" is my favorite and id love to see one on the next Weird Cymbals episode
This is the first video I've seen from you, and I subscribed! Awesome presentation of each cymbal, giving background and insights into them. Great idea with adding one cymbal to the kit at a time. And, they were cool cymbals! I particularly loved the trashy sound of the 27" and that 16" Wuhan worked out to be a nice ride
My day always get better with a David video.
Every single one of these, I'm sitting there the same way I did when vice city came out, saying "this is as far as graphics can go"
I dont know how you keep finding more weird cymbals, but im sure we'll revisit again! 😂
Saving the grooves for later:
3:29 Hunkin fecky
3:49 Heckin funky
5:33 cute lil groove
5:55 c h o p s
6:14 Hunky feckin
7:54 mokey
9:55 literally "Bleed"
10:09 Takati takati taka
10:29 Huckin fenky
10:46 it's giving "ZackGrooves"
12:06 similar to "Huckin fenky"
13:12 Picture This
13:33 boom boom plap
13:59 Candlelight Picnic
17:28 Touchy
18:11 Fall on Easy
An 18” or 20” blank might make a good second ride...the steel cymbal sounded much better than I expected!
The 27" sounds cool but I cannot imagine ever traveling with that anywhere.
That blank sounds amazing!
Great sense of humor. Made me laugh quite a few times. 1. Nebula cymbal is amazing. 2. Wuhan Blank sounded astounding, beautiful sound. 3. Stainless steel cymbal didn't sound good isolated, but with within a group; its a friend you'd like by your side.
Good job and thank you for all, excellent taste, RDR. Ciao.
Back in the 80's Zildjian had these things called Earth plates. I guess in the 70's they had an Earth ride. Those were "raw" untooled cymbals
I didn't like that stainless cymbal much at first, but once it was on the right side, it had a nice techno crash sound 🤔
Hook up with Tim over at Reverie Drums for your cymbal project. I'd like to find some good blanks and get into some real cymbal smithing, rather than just modifying already formed cymbals.
And the Daru cymbal sounds great as a hihat.
I was wondering when another one of these would come out... you sir are my hero
Wow, that huge trash can lid sounded better than I thought it would!
WOAH! The fact that the ride even comes with a track pressed into it, is simply amazing 🤣
I strongly recommend Lance Campeau's "The Cymbal Project" series for info on creating your own cymbals. He details his homemade lathe, lathing techniques, different types of anvils, stumps and hammers, hammering patterns, finishing techniques (though he never details the ones that involve dangerous chemicals) and even fx cymbal making. He has a few videos where he works from blanks. I own an fx splash he made, back from when he used to sell cymbals on reverb.
I like the stainless steel crash. It sounds like it would fit a few genres nicely. I also liked when you 2-sticked the 4" hi-hats open. They sounded like something from a Latin percussion section.
The first one relaxes me so much. Would be perfect for playing an album like the blue record from Baroness. That album sounds like water and it's really relaxing too.
I had the same griffin stand for my old kit. Sane counter weight and everything. It was good for replacing hardware.
i quite like how that blank sounds as is, that steel one was pretty suprising it sounds good
I love your playing. Such a natural
Honestly, when you were fooling around at first with the 4 inch hi-hats, it gave me such middle eastern, belly-dance style music.
Excellent work on this video, it is well put together. I enjoyed watching your video. Thank you for sharing. Like 👍
As some have pointed out, Lance Campeau makes or used to make stainless steel cymbals. As an aside, the Sabian Quiet Tone, Evans dB One and Trick Drums low-volume cymbals are all made from stainless steel. Wuhan's Ora low-volume cymbals are B20. And, the Zildjian L80s are "proprietary" alloy.
Yo David, gotta add a titanium cymbal to the collection now
Can't wait to see the cymbal project, should be fun to follow. Maybe a "round 2" after you make the first one, see how much better you could make a second one with everything you learn? One step at a time and all... but I'm jus sayin lol.
Surprised by the stainless cymbal, sounds good; pretty intense sound!
LOVE the 27"... thing... I could never own it, I would overuse the ever loving shit out of it.
The 12" Paiste thing is cool. Extraordinarily niche, but cool; I think you found the real use in a hi hat combo, that makes for a pretty unique sounding hat. Shout out remote hi hats.
Hes Back and I love it!
There are small Chinese hand-crash cymbals, rather similar to the little 4" ones, with big bells and flattish bow that curls up a little at edge, you get that cavity resonance effect as they reach close to closing shut. I think they are mainly used in traditional Chinese musical theatre, i have a couple i found cheap, and they came from a wonderful Chinese musical import shop in Covent Garden, London, called Raymond Man Music (sadly no longer there, he retired and it closed when property developers grabbed the building), this shop had the best, huge range of traditional cymbals, bells, gongs, and wind and string instruments from China that i ever saw anywhere.
Also, Tibetan monastery hand-crash cymbal pairs have a similar style, typically around 16-17 inches, i imagine they got the idea of using these from neighbouring China. Very big deep bells, so the closing resonance effect is very pronounced.
These would be worth checking out in a future video.
Nice Video My Friend. I love the stainless steel cymbal I would love to put that on my kit
Tiny correction to the part about cymbal alloys: the Paiste Signature cymbal displayed above “B8” isn’t a B8 cymbal, Paiste’s signature alloy is approximately a B15 mixture, so it’s approximately 85% copper and 15% tin with tiny amounts of other metals. Then the Paiste 2002 cymbal displayed above “B12” is actually a B8 cymbal. A cymbal line that actually uses B12 alloy is Meinl Pure Alloy
Paiste signature - Signature Bronze (something between b13 or b18. Maybe b15)
Paiste 2002 - B8 (2002 Bronze)
Paiste Signature are B15
As far as I know Paiste uses no B12. Meinl has the Soundcasters which are B12s.
I know zildjian has some b15 cymbals as well. I think they're called project 371?
@@randomsomeguy156 Yes! A limited edition, but the thing that make the cymbal sound nice is all the process with the metal. I fill the Zildjian b15 ones don't sound too good like paistes.
14:00 really liked what you did here... idk if you intended to play that hat pattern that way but it sounds interesting.
'sup Dave!
GREAT content as always.
0:38
I have to point out though, that the Paiste Signature Traditional cymbal you put as an example of a B8 bronze cymbal is actually made from their Signature alloy, which I believe is 15% tin not 8%.
Same for the 2002 cymbal you put there right after as an example of B12 bronze;
2002 cymbals are famously made from a B8 alloy, so that would be incorrect.
I remember my brother had a Zildjian ZXT titanium crash back in the day (late 00's) and as a kid nothing was cooler than the lone silver cymbal amongst the golden colored ones. Would love to see you track one down and give a passing whacking.
I have the Griffen remote hi hat stand and found it to be very sluggish. I vastly improved it by replacing the cable with a Jagwire bike cable and upgraded the spring to one from home depot. Now it's on par with a DW.
That stainless cymbal sounds like the best part of slamming shopping carts together and I love it.
The first two sound like something out of a movie sound track. Like a fight scene in the Last Samurai.
i love your videos man, greetings from Buenos Aires.
i think david is just getting ready to drop a crazy drum and bass album
That 27" is amazing! I'd say send the blank to Lance Campeau but he seems to be MIA?
I noticed he'd been quiet too
That snare sounds so great!
Bro you are the goat of weird cymbals
I absolutely adore the 4" hihats, its so impractical but charming in a way.
Bro that ride for doom or sludge is amazing, sounds so good.
Glad you are making videos again.
The GMD Nebula blob and the Pstx45whatever as hats, were perfect sounds to me. Interesting, interesting indeedy.
I loved the 4" micro hats and the 16" blank ride. Great video, made me laugh!
Check out Dream Cymbals Dark Matter series Rides, these are thin unlathed rides, relatively flat bow and snaller bell, with an ultra deep stick response and wash. They come in 18, 20, 22, if i remember, i got a 20 with a slight edge crack which i scalloped, couldn't have afforded it otherwise. Darkest cymbal i've heard, and dark colour too, sounds interesting. Another strange one, a Pearl Wild-900 20 ride. Unlathed, thick, looks like Pearl decided they needed to compete with the Paiste Rude series as it looks similar, but sound is very different quite high pitched and clangy , a rather unique tone.
So i decided it was unusual enough i should keep it (i got it for almost nothing)-- but i ever used it for a gig yet.
I'd like to say, David, you are very responsive to both the sound and feel of the music style, and of any instrument you happen to be playing on, and come up with interesting and diverse drum grooves to match, alway interesting and a great fit.
Some drummers just play drums, but you really play the music-- Respect!
Whenever he’s back with more weird cymbals, you know it’s gonna be a good day
I've seen bad cymbal descriptions, but that one takes the cake!! 🎂
Weird cymbals aren't a new idea. I've been re-shaping and hammering old and broken cymbals since the 80's. 😊
bro, the blank sounds like perfection!
Nobody has done a single comparison video for TRAKIAN CYMBALS and they’re so beautiful!!! From what I can tell, they sound great, but I’d love to hear them compared to other well known brands out there.
Love your videos and Thanks!
In a portuguese drum selling Facebook group I saw a "gong sheet" the other day, immediately thought of you
Actually the cymbal at 2.59 sounds pretty rad.. for stoner its purrfect 😮😊❤🎉
Bad ass cool. I miss when you did Drum restores and hacks. Good luck in the future though.
7 am on a Saturday Morning... Time for an rdavidr video drop!!! (West Coast Time)
That blank actually made a halfway decent ride sound. Was not expecting that! Nor was I expecting that other one to play like a record 😂
6:30 🤯 YEEEEEEAAAAAAAHHHHHHH 💥 💥 🔥🔥🔥
Look carefully what happens to that when you hit the 'Google Translate' option offered!
You see some kind of difference between American English and Britspeak, obviously ( i am watching from UK).
@@richardlanchester249 😂 I can't translate my own comments. What happens?
The DJ cymbal description was spot on in my opinion
Rick Allen of Def Leppard play the earth ride in his first electronic kit
that stainless steel cymbal sounds absolutely fantastic. i love how dark and distorted it sounds i wish i had it lol
Thanks for the great content
Funny that the open/close of the 4" HH with the 16th notes almost sounded like a Wah pedal... lol (also, I liked the blank.)
Are those Griffin stands decent? I didn't know they actually made drum hardware (I've had a 10U rack from them (and also the same seller) in my ebay cart for a while... and now I have a discount code! woot)
I'd considered trying some Millenium hardware from Thomann, but if the Griffin is similar quality without the international shipping and delays... might just be worth a try.
Thanks!
that zip-tie trick was amazing! thanks
That first steel cymbal sounded WAY better then I expected. They're usually too pingy, but that total works as an fx cymbal
Always a good day when you upload
Good times nicely done 👍
That 16'' blank sounds like a nice small ride, for like an acoustic gig
If youre getting magnetism out of cheap stainless, its not stainless. Magnetic stainless, typically 410 or 440 series, is more expensive than typical stainless grades like 303, 304, or 316 series.
That griffin 2 leg hat stand looked pretty sturdy.
Good choice on the track for that big blob of weirdness. I was thinking something experimental for sure - industrial or even maybe death/black metal.
Carl Palmer at one time had a steel drum kit made by the British Steel Corporation (which was so heavy it needed reinforced risers), but I don't think that kit ran to steel cymbals! That steel one sounded surprisingly good.
Oh man... rdavidr needs a lathe. Does This Old Tony have one? I forget. It's the crossover event nobody expected.
1st: Love and appreciate your videos. In the interest of knowledge. I'm sure someone may have pointed this out all ready. But, I'm fairly sure that Paiste 2002s are made of B8, not B12. Their Signature line is Proprietary and close to B15. Meinl uses B12 and some B10, I think.
That stainless cymbal sounds so much better than I anticipated.
The blank thing is pretty cool actually... you could use some scrubbing polish to clean the crud off just to start - very DIY
Definitely trying to grab the first 2. 👌🏿
nice vid bro
what was the song at 11 mins in you were playing along to??
Love all the cymbals!
Lance Campeau knows what you need to know to get that cymbal blank rockin and rollin
I have a vintage AA Meinl cymbal i nickname the radiator. Its basically like a flat radiator and super thick
10:51 that snare is unreal.
Please try a swish knocker. Either a masterwork thalles or zildjian/paiste. Very unique cymbal.
Check out the Amedia Vortex series, especially the medium-bigger crashes
Stand Geeks makes pretty good hardware. My only gripe is that one of mine broke. Like the neck just snapped. The counterweight is an AWESOME addition.
Honestly that description was pretty accurate…
I love the sound of that huge thrashy ride cymbal
I actually like that blank as it currently is. bet it would be awesome for fast sticking jazz ride.
Use "Big Floppy" as a China alternative.
love your videos man