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Got to shoot the rx-8 ultra today, I don't feel like it's a huge upgrade from the rx-7 ultra as far as shoot ability but the fine adjustments are nice. Won't be upgrading this year lol. After working on bows for 10 years I do appreciate the durability from Hoyt compared to other brands and hunting the elk woods of Colorado Hoyt is the only bow I trust when I'm backpacking in the rough country. Another great review from mfjj!
Hey MFJJ, first, dude I love your content! Your titanium 166 halfout inserts are freaking amazing! Honest reviews unbiased for the most part. One thing, the MSRP on the RX-8 Ultra isn't $1899. According to Hoyt's website, it's $2,049. Not even the regular RX-8 is $1,899. That one is $1,949. Anyway, just wanted to give you a heads up, but you probably already knew that. 😂
Definitely the most in depth review you’re gonna get, especially on drop day!
I shot the rx8 ultra ,alpha x the lift 33 and the bowtech core ss today .this thing with out a doubt the smoothest quietest dead in the hand thing I've ever shot . Was amazed by it just my 2 cents for 24 bows . Looks like I'm shooting hoyt for another few years .
Hoyt RX8 with an adjustable cam lean system like Bowtech has would be absolutely perfect.
I would agree
Athens tried that and got sued into oblivion…
Great review. I would argue that carbon is not about having the lightest bow. Carbon fiber has the potential given the force applied on it, to have greater strength to weight ratio than aluminum or steel. Given that they were targeting vibration and noise reduction on the RX-8, it may have required a bit more carbon in places to acheive this. I will take an extra 2 tenths of a pound for better vibration reduction, noise reduction, stability, and durability. I am not convinced that the 2 tenths in weight deserved the score of three. Many of these scores are subjective and I can respect the differing opinion, but just because it is a carbon bow doesnt automatically require it to be or to trend towards the lightest. They are using carbon to acheive other design criteria, not just overall weight. Design is all about compromises. Where do you give and where do you take? No free lunch in design. Just my thoughts. Enjoyed the video regardless of the differeing of opinions. Cheers!
Something I have noticed with the vibration test. I saw it spike up with how hard you pull into the wall. I have noticed this on other bows you have tested also when I can see the read out in the video. Thanks for what you are doing.
Good review as usual. As far as the bow goes, the whole original concept for carbon bows was lighter weight. There are much better options with many of todays aluminum bows at much better prices, and lighter weight.
After this season I will be heading to the pro shop to test these out. Might leave my trusted Triax for one of these new Hoyts.
Keep the triax, save the money, and buy ANOTHER bow. Take it from a guy with two bows, it's nice!
I believe hoyt has 2 sets of cable stops. 1 for a soft back wall. And the other for a stiffer back wall
RX8 Ultra looks like a great bow. I agree about the weight o the bow. With that being said I genuinely like a lot of the new features of the bow. The draw cycle looked very smooth.
You keep giving "4" for back wall while skipping over the fact that the new cam system offers 2 different backwall options. Switch it to the HX setting and you'll owe it a "5" because, at least according to other reviewers, it is completely solid.
Yep come on mfjj
Yeah had no idea it even had this feature til i saw this….idk why theyd give the option to do that and dont jus keep it with the solid one stock but makes sense to swap it and see. Still love all his reviews and content and product highlights
In this review, you can see the draw stops are in the “HX” setting. They’d be flipped inward towards the axle if they were on the softer setting.
@@hoythntr00 good to know i didnt know about that feature. Honestly thought i was gonna get a phase 4 when the new mathews came out, they shoot and hold so nice. But then seeing the bowtech SS and being jam packed with features now im super torn. I currently have an RX-1
@dangler15 I'm not sure a phase4 is a good idea... I shoot a vxr 28 and v3 31, I thought the phase4 was sweet, but the underlying issues with the longevity of that bow seem to potentially be pretty extravagant. Having those split limbs is just asking for trouble. I don't think the technology is QUITE there yet. That said, I personally am going to see what mathews does with their new bow before I make any decisions. That bowtech is sweet, this RX is sick, DUDS bows have been fire , but at the end of the day, those carbon bows all have that same flaw: they've got that drama going on in the bottom after the shot! It always weirds me out, that's why I didn't go with the levitate, that one was the worst of the carbons for bottom end vibration, imo.
My conclusion is that the V3X is the safest bet for ordering new, but since I personally have the v3 and vxr, for me, there's no point
Great video! Definitely on my list for next years bow pic.
By the time you got this bow all accessorized it be 3000+$ , I think I’d buy last years model on sale before the new one.
I'd love to see a carbon bow cut in half to see how well they are manufactured. Look for cracks, voids, bad fill, etc.
Bought a new rx7 ultra from the shop in August, immediately upon getting home realized something was rattling around inside the riser. Flip the bow upside down and you could hear whatever it was fall and rattle its way through the apparently hollow riser to the opposite end, flip it back over and the same thing… took it back to the shop and they said they had never seen or heard of anything like it. Hoyt is going to replace the bow but still… extremely disappointing to drop $2k on a brand new bow and discover a major factory defect like that not even 30 minutes after leaving the shop. Definitely has me questioning the the quality/workmanship of the riser now
@@fulldraw93dang! Glad they made it right for you. The bike industry is loaded with terrible manufacturing and there are countless issues with the QC in the Far East. Most bows are made in the US but the carbon layups and molds are still hard to nail.
Do you even verify that the cams are in time before evaluating how firm back wall is ? Ive setup a ton of new bows where the draw stops were 1/8" or more off from touching at the same time. Super critical to wall firmness on a bow with cable stops
My ventum pro 30 and z1s shoot very well. It makes me question how much that reflex number matters.
Hoyt missed on the speed by a good bit, which surprised me. If you are under 31" draw, you can get a carbon one X that shoots way faster in performance and still a little faster even in comfort. Same weight, less reflex, faster, and much better tuning.
Still nothing beats the Mach 34 in weight...not even close and they have pretty easy tuning capabilities with the EZ22 and ability to buy aftermarket cable slide if you want. Can choose if you want aggressive cam to add some speed or comfort cam. E2 cam was halfway between bowtech carbon onex and RX8 ultra in speed while ec2 cam was slower than BT or Hoyt.
I think between the 3, Bowtech as nailed the speed vs. aggressiveness. PSE nailed the weight, and Hoyt has the most accessorizing features to rig it out. All are good bows...that's just my take.
Noticed some other people saying this in the comments as well but I also wanted to bring it up. You have given all of the new Hoyts a "4" for back wall but have not acknowledged the fact that the new cam system offers 2 different backwall settings - Hard (H) and Extra Hard (HX). I'm curious which setting you have the cams set in when doing these reviews. If you're doing them in the H setting, I'd love to hear if you think there's a legitimate improvement in the back wall when you switch it to the HX setting and if so, would the HX setting make it worthy of a "5"? You're also way off when it comes to price. The RX-8 Ultra comes in at $2,049.00 not $1,899.99.
Solid review. Not to be nitpicky, but isn't the price on the Ultra $2049?
Man the new Hoyt’s are sweet, still shootin the old faktor maybe with some kinda luck I win a giveaway 😅
so is this the best long draw bow???
Yea....Hoyt made him change his shirt, he was wearing a matthews t-shirt in his prior Hoyt RX8 review. Even in the thumb nails of those videos they edited a guns n roses shirt on....
If that new hoyt shoots 335 with a 350 grain arrow its mine.
Wonder how much the features add to the weight? I'd imagine that same bow without any of the features it would be down around the 4lb mark.
with the weight, you added a rest to the bow so id assume its on point for weight
When you weighed the bow it had the rest on it , that might be the reason it was a little heavy 🤔
I’m pretty sure he deducted the weight of the rest. Right? Don’t really feel like going back through the video 😂
Well I just watched your video on hoyt carbon bow, my thoughts are, I'm playing the lottery and hoping to hit some money, hoyt has always been in my top 3/5 of all the picks, but like a friend of mine said a while back, when will the time come the industry hits that gray area they can't find anything else to fine tune on their engineering design,
Must be easy to draw. Didnt hear the grunt as you pulled it back. 😂
Great video! Love Hoyt Bows.
A carbon bow should not weigh over four pounds. My 35'' ata PSE Vendetta weighs, 4 pounds and it's a thirteen year old aluminum bow. As Biden would say, right before sh*tting his diaper, "Come On Man".
My Mathews lift is 3.99 pounds, and I only payed 1200$ for it😂
And the lift is not made in China like the riser on the RX8@@huntershepherd3699
To be fair I’d like to see someone take the time to do a fast tune on the bow and set it to do at least a 30in draw at 70 ish pounds and a no tear hole.
And then you could rate the running it took to do so and test speeds at its most efficient setting
If you're a 30.5 draw do you go the longer mod or, given the .25" it's over, do you use the mod that maxes out at 30" (or 30.25" ACC to your measurements) and see if you can twist up cables to get the 30.5? Thanks
Can you go over the ability to switch from a hard to a soft back wall that they added?
Kind of disappointed. They did improve but still. 1899.00 is about what i expected. Carbon should b lighter. May have to stick w/the old carbon defiant rkt. Still shoots bullets.
Trying to figure out if up grading from RX 7 Ultra
It was a great bow to shoot over many other offerings
2k for a bare bow is wild lol. Welcome to 2023…
“This bow is heavier than stated.” **weighs bow with rest on**
I love UA-cam.
Good morning, what release are you shooting in this video?
Can you do a complete RX8 Ultra build
Like others said below- price is $2049 msrp on Hoyt's page. Other item is the Cam/Weight chart on the web site. According to that chart. You dont get the 30" max cam with a 70 lb draw weight unless I am reading the chart incorrectly??? Can you confirm?
The chart is just showing the draw length range of the mods and the different draw weights you can get. They are independent of each other, meaning you can get any module with any weight limb.
Are you gonna review the Athens when it comes out?? I'd like to see your review on it
You should ask companies what brand arrows they test with
Does the new go sticks attach to to the rx-7?
Yes
Are the string silencer tail things standard? I don't remember seeing them on last years bows. I think taking the weight off the string would help, some. Love the breakdown videos.
They have all new strings, it says on the website, idk why no one is mentioning it.
The last seasons vtm’s and I assume that means the RX7’s also have the string silencer limp noodles 😂
I'm sure you've covered this at some point, but what do you lose per inch of draw length and per pound. So at 28" draw and 60#, how much should I deduct? In your opinion
General rule is 2 FPS per pound of draw weight and 10 FPS per inch of draw length. RX8 Ultra's ATA speed rating is 332, so you should lose in the vicinity of 40FPS off whatever speed it actually chronographs.
Great video. Honest review.
Solid review! 👍
Anyone know what pants he’s wearing? Look almost like Fjallravens.
love it
Kinda got a man crush on your skillZ!
ERA vs RX8 winner??
I like this color
How would the draw cycle feel compared to the Bowtech Core
Having shot them both, there's definitely a similar feel. Both are very smooth and don't have a bad dump into full draw.
Your skipping over some important features on the cam system but , hey still enjoy your videos. Adjustable back wall 🤷♂️🤦♂️😂😂😂🎉
You can't back them limb bolts out then expect the draw length to be in spec dude come on.
What does the reflex measurement do
The longer the reflex of a compound, it will (generally) be easier to torque
Reflex is the distance the grip sits behind the limb pockets. The closer the grip is to the limb pockets (like a deflex riser like the Bowtech Reckoning), it should be harder to apply torque.
The ethos was 2.5" but looking at ethos vs Hoyt, just looking I would've thought the Hoyt would have more?
Anybody keep track of all these reviews and know which scored the highest?!
i think he's biased on certain brands...tuneablilty he gives a 2 lol others said Rx8 is phenomenal for tuning and 1 of the best setups they've seen!
im not brand loyal i like bunch of different brands but every hoyt, bow tech and couple others he seems to continuously give bad reviews on certain area's..
RX8 looks nice but anyone who says it is phenomenal for tuning is just not being honest lol. Bowtech, PSE, Elite, and Mathews all have a better system.
@deepdivingdak I'm not so sure about that, i personally never messed with a newer hoyt my a buddy has 1 that i hunt with and absolutely loves it and i have my trusty PSE but she's getting older i was thinking about upgrading to a newer bow... something I'll definitely have to check into
@@apoc8265 what are you not sure about? Hoyt still uses an old fashioned cam shim kit. Bowtech has the Deadlock to adjust for cam lean without even needing a press. PSE has the EZ shim system that takes like 2 seconds. Elite has their SET system and Mathews has top hats. You can absolutely get a good tune on a Hoyt, just like all the other flagship bows. But with Hoyt you have to deal with the same old shim system bows have had for years - while other bows have added features to make it easier and faster.
2k for a bare hunting bow... nah.
Catch me in the woods next year shooting a 40" target bow.
Give me that bow right now lol
Fuck yeah!
Just get a Lift 33, lighter, faster, more features, much cheaper and 100% made in America unlike the Chinese riser on the RX8
Wow someone finally came up with a cool bow design without copying Mathews 😅
Nobody is saying anything about the new strings.
Just can’t justify $2000 for it. I love Hoyt bows , but come on. Do better for the working man Hoyt!!
$2000 carbon Chinese bow 🤦🏻♂️
It amazes me how many people don't realize this.
The Mathews Lift has made the RX8 irrelevant.
You gave it a 3/5 for speed and it was 11 fps off its speed rating at 85% letoff.
You gave Mathews a 4/5 for speed and it was 15 fps off its speed rating at 85% letoff.
You’re biased and lost a lot of respect and credibility this year! You make good content and you can be better than this. We need you to be honest. Please continue to put out great videos and be honest.
Just not that impressive. Minor upgrades more inserts into carbon. Found a few cracked on lower insert for go stick, or lower stabilizer in the carbon. Time will tell on these. The 33 is great. Thanks for doing what you do!
Don’t believe me check them when you get them just saying.
For their price point thats just pretty unacceptable to say the least…honestly thought id buy a phase 4 discounted when the new ones drop. But after seeing the bowtech Core and all its features idkkk. My best shop around carries hoyt, pse, and mathews, or course not bowtech too
@@Orr_s yeah so far I would go older offerings or core SR. That bow in comfort turned up and tuned will be a scorcher and it was smooooooth! My right arm can struggle sometimes old injuries, military is hard on the joints. That SR in performance hurt like a sumbish though! If it finds its way home its staying In comfort! Lol
@@travisalderete5386 good to know since i was leaning towards SS but also would like a longer ATA draw. Figured in comfort wouldnt be nearly as fast. Im a 29.5” draw
Local shop just said he had heard of guys having problems with the limbs already, first day out. He sells hoyt.
@@Orr_s funny me too it was plenty fast for me and if I got crazy I would tune out the hump if needed on performance. I was surprised shot both back to back ss and sr. SR for me just checked it all off.
No big difference with the rx7
Pretty uninspiring with a $1900 bare bow price tag. Meh.
Slow down and little bit… man you not running a race… you going to pass life up…
It’s made in china… how “premium” is it really?
This fan boy stuff has GOT to stop
Is it possible for you to be both an idiot and a genius?
Is that Bow still made in China?
yes.. and they still want you to pay $2000+
Why are all box manufactures not doing adjustable limb pockets, cam adjustment, etc like bowtec. Also. Why are these companies not all doing adjustable modules that dont require buying more modules and parts. I fesl like, they are not inovating enough given current technology and materials available. And lastly. I feel like prices need to be lower where possible
Ever heard of a patent?