Kudos to you on the elaborate setup you've put together. My sump pump runs year round so I just toss the minnow trap in the sump hole when I have live bait - constant flow of cold, clean water. I've kept bait for up to 2 weeks in there. Its the only good thing about having a lot of water around the foundation of your house.
Nailed it. I like your thoughts on the Bio balls or any porous material housing beneficial bacteria. This bacteria is crucial to keep ammonia levels down from the waste produced. I could get into how that is produced but generally could take a good amount of time to produce, under the right circumstances. Old filters (particularly dried-out ones) it will die off and then you need that cycle to start all over. Cold water does slow the entire process ( bait metabolism, and beneficial bacteria) don't produce as much or as quickly in colder temps. My recommendation, if you can swing it, is to keep the water in all the time, and filter running so you don't have to run through the "cycling process over and over. All this, of course, is dependent on how long you keep your bait before using it. You may also want to consider 20-40% regular water changes bi-weekly or so to help keep ammonia levels down (from fish waste). If you are concerned with chlorine levels, you should be more concerned with the bi-product of fish poop or food, it is far more harmful than the small amounts of chlorine. All in all great video.... above are just some supporting facts to your operation, especially if you keep bait for long periods.
@@michtube69 thank you! Yeah I usually let them sit in a container for a few days to get some of the waste out of their system. I will do water changed occasionally as I see the water quality degrade. I use the zeolite and other fish tank products to try and control the ammonia. Not sure how much it helps but it does seem to do something.
Excellent Info. I was thinking of doing something like this last year but didn't know how to attack it. This helps. Looking forward to some ice fishing videos soon..
You got a great set up. Need to get something like it to save $$$ on bait. We use 4-6" shiners and baby suckers for pike and walleye fishing here in michigan. Our tip-up baits sell for 30- 40 cents each. Also could use a setup like this for live pike spearing decoys. I use the biggest suckers i can get, 12-16". Too small of a decoy gets attacked and killed by the pike, before you can throw the spear. Great video 😮😊👍😃
You can make your own carbon bags out of screen door material. It sews up toghether very easily. You don't even have to make the seam look nice. Hand sewed so the carbon doesn't fall out is enough.
Only bait you can store/keep in NY is store bought certified bait and you can only keep it one week. Must keep receipt with date of purchase on it. They say it's to keep fish disease from spreading between lakes. If you catch your own bait, you must use it same day in same water without transporting overland. Even if you bring it back to the same water where you caught it, you can't use it.
When you’re trapping in open water tie a water bottle to the rope to keep the trap off bottom. I like the tip for putting the bait in mesh container to keep it from floating to the top of the trap and getting eaten from the outside.
The scrubbies are absolutely necessary as they give the beneficial biological bacteria a place to colonize so they’re able to break down the ammonia from the fish waste with tye nitrogen cycle. ammonia is removed through the nitrogen cycle by beneficial bacteria, primarily Nitrosomonas, which consume ammonia and convert it into nitrite, a less toxic compound; another type of bacteria, Nitrobacter, then further converts the nitrite into nitrate, which is the least toxic form of nitrogen and can be removed through water changes. The Scrubbies were selected bc they’re readily available and a cheaper alternative than the commercially available bio balls or bio media sold for aquarium use. The filter is a pretty easily maintained design that only needs the filter mats rinsed out every once in a while to remove the fish waste that accumulates and slows the flow of water through the system. If the water flow is blocked through the filter mats it will over flow through the overflow pipe as designed as a fail safe.
The reason the water gets “murky” or starts to smell it’s because of a bacterial bloom and ammonia spike. A bait tank is just like an aquarium and must cycle, most times bait tanks are just started when bait is put in and it hasn’t cycled yet. Cycling takes 6wks to complete, it can be jump started a little bit if you take filter material from an established tank. However bait tanks are typically extremely over crowded and will need to be monitored more frequently and 50% water changes weekly or more if they’re really over crowded.
Kudos to you on the elaborate setup you've put together. My sump pump runs year round so I just toss the minnow trap in the sump hole when I have live bait - constant flow of cold, clean water. I've kept bait for up to 2 weeks in there. Its the only good thing about having a lot of water around the foundation of your house.
@@rheslip20 resourceful!
Seem to be pretty happy - cracked me up - keep ‘em happy till they are EATEN 😂 As always, thanks for the vid!
You’re the master baiter we’ve come to love and respect.
What do you feed the minnows and shiners ? How do I know where shiners live ?
Nailed it. I like your thoughts on the Bio balls or any porous material housing beneficial bacteria. This bacteria is crucial to keep ammonia levels down from the waste produced. I could get into how that is produced but generally could take a good amount of time to produce, under the right circumstances. Old filters (particularly dried-out ones) it will die off and then you need that cycle to start all over. Cold water does slow the entire process ( bait metabolism, and beneficial bacteria) don't produce as much or as quickly in colder temps. My recommendation, if you can swing it, is to keep the water in all the time, and filter running so you don't have to run through the "cycling process over and over. All this, of course, is dependent on how long you keep your bait before using it. You may also want to consider 20-40% regular water changes bi-weekly or so to help keep ammonia levels down (from fish waste). If you are concerned with chlorine levels, you should be more concerned with the bi-product of fish poop or food, it is far more harmful than the small amounts of chlorine. All in all great video.... above are just some supporting facts to your operation, especially if you keep bait for long periods.
@@michtube69 thank you! Yeah I usually let them sit in a container for a few days to get some of the waste out of their system. I will do water changed occasionally as I see the water quality degrade. I use the zeolite and other fish tank products to try and control the ammonia. Not sure how much it helps but it does seem to do something.
Excellent work
Amazing video 🎉
Excellent Info. I was thinking of doing something like this last year but didn't know how to attack it. This helps. Looking forward to some ice fishing videos soon..
Good video
You got a great set up. Need to get something like it to save $$$ on bait. We use 4-6" shiners and baby suckers for pike and walleye fishing here in michigan. Our tip-up baits sell for 30- 40 cents each. Also could use a setup like this for live pike spearing decoys. I use the biggest suckers i can get, 12-16". Too small of a decoy gets attacked and killed by the pike, before you can throw the spear. Great video 😮😊👍😃
I wish you had shown the difference between daze and shiners.
Shiners, shine - like a bright dime - dace are usually black dace - black stripes down the body - do a google image search for them
You can make your own carbon bags out of screen door material. It sews up toghether very easily. You don't even have to make the seam look nice. Hand sewed so the carbon doesn't fall out is enough.
Very informative thank you 👍
Any plans for having another run of the center pin reel type of spools for the Jack Trap tip-ups?
@@webb-cast1030 no, sorry. Guys not making them anymore
Great content 👌
Only bait you can store/keep in NY is store bought certified bait and you can only keep it one week. Must keep receipt with date of purchase on it. They say it's to keep fish disease from spreading between lakes. If you catch your own bait, you must use it same day in same water without transporting overland. Even if you bring it back to the same water where you caught it, you can't use it.
Good information. Thanks
Great video
When you’re trapping in open water tie a water bottle to the rope to keep the trap off bottom.
I like the tip for putting the bait in mesh container to keep it from floating to the top of the trap and getting eaten from the outside.
@@BorealExposure good idea
Good info
Definitely save ya a few bucks
Thank you
The scrubbies are absolutely necessary as they give the beneficial biological bacteria a place to colonize so they’re able to break down the ammonia from the fish waste with tye nitrogen cycle. ammonia is removed through the nitrogen cycle by beneficial bacteria, primarily Nitrosomonas, which consume ammonia and convert it into nitrite, a less toxic compound; another type of bacteria, Nitrobacter, then further converts the nitrite into nitrate, which is the least toxic form of nitrogen and can be removed through water changes. The Scrubbies were selected bc they’re readily available and a cheaper alternative than the commercially available bio balls or bio media sold for aquarium use. The filter is a pretty easily maintained design that only needs the filter mats rinsed out every once in a while to remove the fish waste that accumulates and slows the flow of water through the system. If the water flow is blocked through the filter mats it will over flow through the overflow pipe as designed as a fail safe.
The reason the water gets “murky” or starts to smell it’s because of a bacterial bloom and ammonia spike. A bait tank is just like an aquarium and must cycle, most times bait tanks are just started when bait is put in and it hasn’t cycled yet. Cycling takes 6wks to complete, it can be jump started a little bit if you take filter material from an established tank. However bait tanks are typically extremely over crowded and will need to be monitored more frequently and 50% water changes weekly or more if they’re really over crowded.
Did you just run the pond pump cable…right up the side of your freezer/ shiner container to the outlet?
@@Whitetail414 yes
Where did you get your minnow grader from.
Minotech
Bait is si expensive here in Vermont 😢
Does your filter system run continuously? Or does it cycle?
@@toddalmquist5829 24/7
@mainetroutwhisperer ok, thanks. Very good video.
I learned many, many years ago not to use bread as bait, the minnows eat to much and die.
What about minnow trap on a major lake ? Why are you referencing drainage ditches and ponds in backyards?
@@KevinFromSouthBoston major lakes are hard to get them. The smaller ponds, if they have shiners, will be full of them and easier to catch.
@mainetroutwhisperer how do you know where " shiners grow" and also what about smelt ? I assume you can also use a trap in rivers ?
Dace are the ticket
@@NickB46n2 I always keep some, but seem to have better luck with the shiners idk why.
@ whatever works!