Hi Matt. Great to see this video. I am about to purchase a 390 Adventure (2022 model) and was already making a list of must-have upgrades. This Hyperpro shock and the progressive fork springs are definitely on this list and a lot more, thanks to your inspiring vids. By the way, Hyperpro is a company based here in The Netherlands and close where I live (30 min. away). Greetings, Godspeed!
Thank you Matt, I just changed the springs of the fork for the Hyperpro following your detailed instructions in another video and the difference is awsome, the old springs come with no preload at all, now It is a real offroad bike.
Glad to hear your shock is working well for you. Mine came out of the box pretty firm. It's gotten getter, but now I have dropped almost ten pounds from me and switching luggage dropped almost thirty there, so the spring is definitely more firm that I would like. I really should babe been sure I was sticking with the very heavy Tusk luggage before ordering! - Frank
Thats a great price for a rear shock with low and high speed compression damping adjustment. I'm thinking about doing mine, but I'd like a remote preload adjuster, as the difference between me riding the bike, and riding it fully loaded is rather a lot (I dont travel light) I'm quite impressed with that one, although I maybe go with Ktech as I have had great success with their suspension components on bikes in the past. Nice one.
In the highlands here, where they sell deer hunting, they send flocks of sheep through the gorse and heather to pick up all the ticks so the deer are healthy for shooting ! It's mad :) I hate the things, get one on you and don't notice till too late and , well, it can get horrible. Those roads matt was riding there look like here.
agreed ! cannot wait for my Tractive shock & fork drop in units to come for my 901........awesome video some great info you put out in a simple way , just come across your channel new sub here ill be checking the rest out thansk
I try a lot of different tires. My favorite tire is the Bridgestone Battle Axe Adventurecross AX41. This tire is fantastic. The rear tire wears fast but these tires have amazing road grip and the best offroad performance I have experienced. Thanks for the feedback.
The shock and forks are one place where I've actually been very happy with the 390 Adventure... I've not done anything to them other than adjust them to my riding style and weight (which is HUGE in itself, but a lot of people don't do), and they've been very comfortable and controlled. I have bottomed out quite a few times, but nowhere that I wouldn't expect to (potholes, etc). I've also been subscribed to Dave Moss's website / videos for a while now, which has taught me a LOT about suspension and tires (street for both specifically, but a lot transfers to adventure), so maybe I've just got my setup tuned pretty well, but with all of the other shortcomings of the bike coming to light in all of the riding I've done, the suspension has never been on my mind while riding. What's the "typical" issue with the shock and forks that gets fixed with the changes?
The forks are under sprung. Under the weight of the bike the forks sag around 40%. When loaded the sag is around 50%. I ride offroad a lot and the forks bottomed a lot and also packed up losing even more travel. I had to run the compression damping fully turned in. The progressive fork springs make a huge difference. The rear shock is very basic with a single damping circuit. It is hard to get the shock to soak up hard bumps and rebound under control under hard offroad riding. My biggest issue with the rear shock was the seal failures of two different shocks. Everyone's riding experience will be different depending on the type of riding.
@@advmatt appreciate the reply! I'll be honest, I've never gone so far as to measure the static sag of the 390, but I believe your numbers there. That being the case, it does sound like they're undersprung, though it's not presented a problem for me YET. I predominately use the bike offroad as well, but I'm usually either cruising on fire roads, or riding some pretty technical stuff with not a lot of speed to it, so it may just be a matter of where I ride that it hasn't posed an issue for me. You're out West, and I've really only kept to the Midwest or Eastern side of the country, so that could very well be the difference.
@@TheJaredC01 lets just say you will feel a huge difference. The bike will perform better offroad and hold your lines better. It will allow you to go a little faster preserving momentum when you need, but if it works for now keep riding it the way it is.
The swap is so simple I didnt bother trying to film it, I even left the rear wheel on. Lift the bike, pull two bolts, wiggle the old shock out, wiggle the new shock in, install the two bolts. It took less than 30 minutes.
@@advmatt Awesome. Thank you again. Hopefully I will do fine with the emulsion shock. 160lbs no luggage or quite the extreme conditions you go through. :)
So far riding out east has a been an adjustment, not good or bad, just different. It takes about 90 minutes to get out of the city into the country. The country lanes are a blast, watch for turkeys. The ambient air temperature is taking some adjustment. There is no evaporative cooling like out west so warm feels hot and cool feels cold. I am enjoying the experience but it some work to get out and do it. The MABDR has been fun, or at least the few sections I have ridden, more to come on that.
My hat of to you Matt for taking the 390 to the extreme. Me, I couldnt justify the cost. I saw Ian from Big Rock Moto put some new suspension on his Transalp and spent almost half the cost of the bike! UA-camrs can probably afford to these upgrades as most get a kick back, but the average bear cant afford this stuff. The 463 you have there would cost me $2, 230.00 AUS! Thats not including shipping or installation. Then again if you earn big bucks why the hell not. lol 😆
I wish I was earning big bucks. My UA-cam revenue ever month is not enough to purchase a single tire. I am out of pocket 1000s for fun and for hopefully helpful content. I have no idea what the big channels make, but sponsorships certainly help the big channels. I'm not there yet. Thanks for tuning in.
$1300!!!! Ouch! I think I'll wait until my stock shock clocks. I guess I missed the front shock vid. How much did they cost. You're gittin' one Caddy of a KTM, man! Thanks, S
The main benefit is the rising rate of resistance, meaning in the first part of the stroke the spring feels softer and more compliant but gets harder as it compresses, allowing the shock to handle bigger impacts better. I dont know anything about the lowering springs. If its progressive the above remains trye.
Replacing the shock was on my list of upgrades before the two failures. The performance difference is worth it to me, but I also ride this bike pretty hard offroad and push it to its limits. Now the limits have been extended. The failures just forced me to do it sooner. Hope this answers your question.
Hey I just bought a 2022 adventure 390 and I’m only 5’6” tall I have to lean to put a full foot on the ground when I stop. I know there is a lowering kit that only drops it .9 of an inch Is there something that might lower it more or a different alternative? Thanks in advance! I need to post more videos to UA-cam!
My first thought is a lower seat. Check with Seat Concepts and see if the a have seat that will be lower. They make these for some bikes. Other than the seat and the lowering kit there is not much else you can. do.
The ground clearance is about 8". My BMW F800GS with the Alt Rider skid plate only had 8" of clearance. The shorter wheel base makes it more nimble and I dont bash through obstacles, too often, so I think this bike, with modifications, is perfectly suited for how I ride it. But it does have limitations compared to other adventure bikes. It is just so much fun to ride.
Hi Matt. Great to see this video. I am about to purchase a 390 Adventure (2022 model) and was already making a list of must-have upgrades. This Hyperpro shock and the progressive fork springs are definitely on this list and a lot more, thanks to your inspiring vids.
By the way, Hyperpro is a company based here in The Netherlands and close where I live (30 min. away). Greetings, Godspeed!
Thank you Matt, I just changed the springs of the fork for the Hyperpro following your detailed instructions in another video and the difference is awsome, the old springs come with no preload at all, now It is a real offroad bike.
Glad it helped!
Fantastic info and thanks for the extra settings info Matt!
Glad to hear your shock is working well for you. Mine came out of the box pretty firm. It's gotten getter, but now I have dropped almost ten pounds from me and switching luggage dropped almost thirty there, so the spring is definitely more firm that I would like. I really should babe been sure I was sticking with the very heavy Tusk luggage before ordering! - Frank
Thats a great price for a rear shock with low and high speed compression damping adjustment. I'm thinking about doing mine, but I'd like a remote preload adjuster, as the difference between me riding the bike, and riding it fully loaded is rather a lot (I dont travel light)
I'm quite impressed with that one, although I maybe go with Ktech as I have had great success with their suspension components on bikes in the past.
Nice one.
Hey Matt another good video still envious of the miles you manage to rack up. Brilliant keep them coming. 👍🇬🇧
Thanks for the feedback! I try to ride as much as possible.
Coming in to tic season back east. Check yourself after camping. 👍
That has been on my mind when out riding.
In the highlands here, where they sell deer hunting, they send flocks of sheep through the gorse and heather to pick up all the ticks so the deer are healthy for shooting ! It's mad :) I hate the things, get one on you and don't notice till too late and , well, it can get horrible.
Those roads matt was riding there look like here.
agreed ! cannot wait for my Tractive shock & fork drop in units to come for my 901........awesome video some great info you put out in a simple way , just come across your channel new sub here ill be checking the rest out
thansk
Thanks, glad you find these useful.
Great video!
What tires you are using for the adv 390? Thanks for amazing videos.
I try a lot of different tires. My favorite tire is the Bridgestone Battle Axe Adventurecross AX41. This tire is fantastic. The rear tire wears fast but these tires have amazing road grip and the best offroad performance I have experienced. Thanks for the feedback.
The shock and forks are one place where I've actually been very happy with the 390 Adventure... I've not done anything to them other than adjust them to my riding style and weight (which is HUGE in itself, but a lot of people don't do), and they've been very comfortable and controlled. I have bottomed out quite a few times, but nowhere that I wouldn't expect to (potholes, etc).
I've also been subscribed to Dave Moss's website / videos for a while now, which has taught me a LOT about suspension and tires (street for both specifically, but a lot transfers to adventure), so maybe I've just got my setup tuned pretty well, but with all of the other shortcomings of the bike coming to light in all of the riding I've done, the suspension has never been on my mind while riding.
What's the "typical" issue with the shock and forks that gets fixed with the changes?
The forks are under sprung. Under the weight of the bike the forks sag around 40%. When loaded the sag is around 50%. I ride offroad a lot and the forks bottomed a lot and also packed up losing even more travel. I had to run the compression damping fully turned in. The progressive fork springs make a huge difference. The rear shock is very basic with a single damping circuit. It is hard to get the shock to soak up hard bumps and rebound under control under hard offroad riding. My biggest issue with the rear shock was the seal failures of two different shocks. Everyone's riding experience will be different depending on the type of riding.
@@advmatt appreciate the reply! I'll be honest, I've never gone so far as to measure the static sag of the 390, but I believe your numbers there. That being the case, it does sound like they're undersprung, though it's not presented a problem for me YET.
I predominately use the bike offroad as well, but I'm usually either cruising on fire roads, or riding some pretty technical stuff with not a lot of speed to it, so it may just be a matter of where I ride that it hasn't posed an issue for me. You're out West, and I've really only kept to the Midwest or Eastern side of the country, so that could very well be the difference.
@@TheJaredC01 lets just say you will feel a huge difference. The bike will perform better offroad and hold your lines better. It will allow you to go a little faster preserving momentum when you need, but if it works for now keep riding it the way it is.
Hi Matt I'm assuming the swap out was easy enough just miss when you show the work installing. Thanks.
The swap is so simple I didnt bother trying to film it, I even left the rear wheel on. Lift the bike, pull two bolts, wiggle the old shock out, wiggle the new shock in, install the two bolts. It took less than 30 minutes.
@@advmatt Awesome. Thank you again. Hopefully I will do fine with the emulsion shock. 160lbs no luggage or quite the extreme conditions you go through. :)
iv waited so long for this video lol
Sorry it took so long. Life really got in the way!
$1300 is a fair price fora top range shock, and you really ride this bike hard, so money well spent.
Totally agree!
Good shocks are worth it. How are you liking NoVA? I’ll be moving out there next year
So far riding out east has a been an adjustment, not good or bad, just different. It takes about 90 minutes to get out of the city into the country. The country lanes are a blast, watch for turkeys. The ambient air temperature is taking some adjustment. There is no evaporative cooling like out west so warm feels hot and cool feels cold. I am enjoying the experience but it some work to get out and do it. The MABDR has been fun, or at least the few sections I have ridden, more to come on that.
My hat of to you Matt for taking the 390 to the extreme. Me, I couldnt justify the cost. I saw Ian from Big Rock Moto put some new suspension on his Transalp and spent almost half the cost of the bike! UA-camrs can probably afford to these upgrades as most get a kick back, but the average bear cant afford this stuff. The 463 you have there would cost me $2, 230.00 AUS! Thats not including shipping or installation. Then again if you earn big bucks why the hell not. lol 😆
I wish I was earning big bucks. My UA-cam revenue ever month is not enough to purchase a single tire. I am out of pocket 1000s for fun and for hopefully helpful content. I have no idea what the big channels make, but sponsorships certainly help the big channels. I'm not there yet. Thanks for tuning in.
$1300!!!! Ouch! I think I'll wait until my stock shock clocks. I guess I missed the front shock vid. How much did they cost. You're gittin' one Caddy of a KTM, man!
Thanks,
S
Fork springs were somewhere around $200. I think I mention it in the video. Worth every penny.
@@advmatt Now ... how could I POSSIBLY miss an ADV Matt vid?
Must have been that tsunami last week.
;)
S
@@sdefiel3719 must have been.
What's the main benefit of a progressive spring? And will I get those benefits with a hyperpro progressive lowering spring kit?
The main benefit is the rising rate of resistance, meaning in the first part of the stroke the spring feels softer and more compliant but gets harder as it compresses, allowing the shock to handle bigger impacts better. I dont know anything about the lowering springs. If its progressive the above remains trye.
If you weren’t having failures from the stock shock would you spend the money for that aftermarket shock? Worth replacing a working stock shock?
Replacing the shock was on my list of upgrades before the two failures. The performance difference is worth it to me, but I also ride this bike pretty hard offroad and push it to its limits. Now the limits have been extended. The failures just forced me to do it sooner. Hope this answers your question.
Hey I just bought a 2022 adventure 390 and I’m only 5’6” tall I have to lean to put a full foot on the ground when I stop.
I know there is a lowering kit that only drops it .9 of an inch
Is there something that might lower it more or a different alternative?
Thanks in advance!
I need to post more videos to UA-cam!
My first thought is a lower seat. Check with Seat Concepts and see if the a have seat that will be lower. They make these for some bikes. Other than the seat and the lowering kit there is not much else you can. do.
I think you use the 390 for what it was not built. Next is the Ground clearance....
The ground clearance is about 8". My BMW F800GS with the Alt Rider skid plate only had 8" of clearance. The shorter wheel base makes it more nimble and I dont bash through obstacles, too often, so I think this bike, with modifications, is perfectly suited for how I ride it. But it does have limitations compared to other adventure bikes. It is just so much fun to ride.
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