The New World Situation is a Disaster
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- Опубліковано 10 чер 2024
- Amazon teased an announcement for months about the future of New World, building up hype until the Game Awards.
The ensuing announcement has resulted in review bombing and general frustration beyond just the announcement but more so about how frustrating their communication has been...and well...the fact that they now call their MMO an Action RPG.
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The Devs have always been out of touch. All the decisions they make are from spreadsheets. And they obviously don’t play their game.
they only fish and gathers and maybe play an instrument
They knew what they were doing. It was all testing and prep for a console release. This is their 1.0 release. That’s why they focus on the early game so much when people begged for end game content. Once it hits console they might start on end game content since that’s all that’s left at that point, but far too late for their current player base at that point.
They busy playing Dragonflight
@@-mayo- You do realize that this is the 3rd release of the game? It had an initial release, a reset half way thru, and now this. No new content. If you believe that AGS will change their ways after this final cash grab. You are living under a rock.
i was p[art of the original dev teams alpha test back in 18/19 and man, they didnt listen to our feedback at all and actually seemed to actively do the opposite.
The Devs and their marketing department are a bunch of out of touch idiots. Plain and simple. I'm honestly waiting for AGS to "pull a Disney" and start blaming the players for what just happened.
uh players are the issue bud...the whole healer issue was because few players cried same with the stun/cc change same with the way they handled 1st year they listened and they lost more players due to the chages.
@@LadyVixenGames Seriously? When was the last time you ACTUALLY played New World? You have a lot of game videos on your channel, but the last one was November of 2021 ... 2.5 years ago.
You obviously haven't played the game in YEARS.
Just look at this thread and see all the other people comment on how the Devs are out of touch, and yet I'm the one who think it's the players problems? I have over 1394 hours in the game and played this morning, I think I have a MUCH better handle on the state of the game than you.
I wish I can go back to the first 3 weeks of this games release, life was different then
Everyone says the launch was horrible, but those were some of my favourite moments in gaming. I think the game was meant for launches and not so much for longevity.
Before all the bugs revealed themselves? 😂
They aren’t saying it’s an MMO because my guess is they are going to get rid or limit the best of features such as war and OPR. This is an obvious cash grab of a failed project by incompetent devs that are getting the hammer from the man.
My thoughts is because MMO for console players could be considered World of Warcraft. Alot of young console players could be thought of as those who play Fortnite or call of duty and so perhaps calling it an ARPG sounds like the Witcher or dragon age. So to them it could sound cooler than saying MMO. I don't believe they are getting rid of any aspects of the game. Though anyway anyone could be right or wrong at this stage.
It's even crazier for them to try and catch the ARPG hype train. New World as an ARPG is just a bad ARPG. It feels like mom I want elden ring, we have elden ring at home. New World.
Spot on!
Truly tragic. I sank like 2.5k into it. I tested from the very beginning. I want so much more for a game with such good bones. The devs are just lost.
Sounds like you got your moneys worth
@@azazel673 content stopped at 150
@@ItzGirk still sounds like you got your moneys worth
@@azazel673 seems like you don;t main mmos
@@ItzGirk lets be honest, most mmos are subscription based model. New world is pay once and done (similar to ESO). Getting 2.5k hours for $40 bucks is more than enough.
Let PC players wait for 6+ months while constantly hyping up their big announcement in June, only for it to be basically just a console port and some minor content that won't last longer than a week or two. All of that while trying to rebrand and repackage the same lackluster game riddled with bugs to unsuspecting console players for a quick cashgrab and showing a middlefinger to the PC community. Perfect case study on how to run an MMO with a great foundation into the dirt.
Who cares if it's labeled MMO or aRPG? It's the same game. The problem is that Scot Lane is a fucking liar. People are tired of the delays, bugs, and broken promises. Anyone who has been around long enough knows this.
does it really surprise anyone that Scott Lane and the others are out of touch with what players want in their game? The guy is like a 65 year old boomer who should be leading a lawn bowling team not a MMO
I thought people wanted people in their game? Not sure how increasing the potential population by the sum of all PS and Xbox players doesn't accomplish that.
Hello Once Human, goodbye New World
So what happens if I do not have the Angry Earth dlc? Am I just locked out of the game I paid for? That sounds a bit illegal
You can still play up to max lvl 60 but you won’t get mounts or the dlc quests. It’s shitty what they are doing!
I feel like im living in some kind of f**** upside down world, how is this stuff even possible, game after game releasing shit that makes no sense
It's all up to Indie titles now. It's too bad they can't get better funding. Imagine Pantheon Rise of the fallen with an AGS budget, but WITHOUT the oversight of AGS (as that would destroy it)
Exactly what I have been saying and will continue to say. I would LOVE to see what Pantheon, Embers Adrift, M&M and a few others would look like with a 50+ million budget and triple plus full-time staff. I didn't include AoC because they have enough money to fully realize their vision(which I love for them)
Indie MMOS will keep the genre alive.
Sounds design was the first thing i noticed when I played New world. It was SO good, the echoing of trees, players mining ore. Top notch, I do not understand how the sound design team is so far ahead of everything else in the game. The icing on the cake, why I will not go back after about 3k hrs is the healing. Healing flat out not fun. Then in this "action combat" system people are forced to stand in a circle for heals. IDK why that alone made it past alpha. This game was so close to being amazing, AGS totally screwed the pootch. I have a ton of resentment because I spent so many hours just hoping at some point the game would get better.
It's so damn annoying. There is so much to like about this game but the leadership just can't get it on the right track. I loved my time with it but the decisions are just mind blowing.
They don't want to say "MMO" on console for marketing reasons, that's all. It was a stupid move to make but it's not complicated.
Abandoning the terminology you've used for years is a bad look no matter how you slice it. Especially when your current pc audience is asking for clarification and the response is "we don't classify our game in a genre" pissing off one audience you've courted for years in search of a new one. Not great.
I played since before launch.
9k + hours, a few bucks in the store, 3 maxed out characters.
I don't care about MMO/RPG labelling.
What i care about is brain dead devs, the lies, the BS promises, the bugs, the servers, etc.
The game really is dead.
Die hard players still hang around hoping for change.
So many let downs with this game.
The console launch won't be as big or good as they are hoping for.
They are really more focused on LOTR and just appeasing PC players and adding console.
They are 2 years too late for reviving this game with crossplay, controller support, etc.
I've moved on to other games like many others have.
They don't give 2 hoots about us legacy founding players.
It's all about profit margins coming from new players, but it won't last, all new players become old players who get tired of the same BS.
The "new car smell" will wear off quickly and reveal its truly a salvaged title.
While true we FFXIV fans would hate that, we do in fact call it a RPG-MMO. Mostly to remind people to slow down and enjoy the story.
The issue is simple We are rich Trillionaires and we are bored lets make a Game that we have no idea what we are doing.
Ah, yes the infamous chat sausage. Those were the good old days. Put about 750 hours into New World. It has a really good crafting and gathering system. That what kept me in the game, such a shame it’s being miss managed.
Not to mention they did a cooking “update” and took out and or changed over half the recipes. So they actually took out choice/customization
The people still playing (I include myself into that) are the most loyal bunch you could wish for and everyone of us was kicked in the nuts.
Said it before and will say it again. I never thought after nearly 25 years, the best MMO to ever release would be EverQuest. MMO's have gotten worse...steadily worse. And yes it started its decline with World of KiddieCraft.
Agreed. Just started again on new TLP Teek a few weeks ago and its been bomb. Sooo many people
Osrs was the only tolerable mmo. Hotbar spamming mmos are so wack
I played EQ from 1999 to 2009 and it still stands out as the best MMO I have ever played
I mean that's incredibly subjective, tons of people loved Asheron's Call(me, for example), Ultima, LotrO, DDO, City of Heroes, Warhammer, to say nothing of WoW. Or as the clearly unbiased Gendrake3 says, Osrs is the only one that is even tolerable.
Problem is that the very small hardcore MMO OG community could never truly drive profits for a company to advance and iterate on the game. Not enough capital. Its why the EQ of now is terrible and PTW.
The game is fun to play. You log in, do everything in about 100-250 hours and then decide if you really want to chase personal goals or not. AGS Irvine has had weird leadership since Patrick Gilmore was pushed out.
Most of these corporations are so out of touch with their consumer base. And their answer to their customers is just to go further and further down the rabbit hole.
It’s crazy how EQ and WoW are still the gold standards for an MMO.
and DAoC if you want best pvp, by a long shot.
Imagine EQ with New World graphics, that would just be out of this world
New World was supposed to be PvP only and then they changed last minute when the first testers said it wasn't going to be enough. They seem to have had an identity crisis since before it came out.
remember when they said mounts wasen't possible, just to release mounts behind a dlc?! thats when i gave up on this game
I was making a comeback after a year and a half after launch. Starting the grind again, I realized that a few things changed but the core issues were still there. When I saw the paid DLC for mounts, I knew the game was doomed and it would be a waste of money. I was right. Who in their right mind would make people pay for mounts in an open world mmorpg????
To be fair to New World, it's not a paid dlc for mounts. It's an expansion with new areas that also has mounts.
New World is such a good ass game, the launch buried it, and the equalization of gear is a trainwreck in OPR. I sincerely think it could be a great game with better direction and development leadership. The game itself is what I've wanted for so long.
is it me or the music of the trailer sounds super similar to the song of pixies "where is mi mind"?
The whole premise of the game originally was to create Clans and overtake each section of the lands. If they are trying to do that without claiming its an MMO, then I would have to agree that they are just pretty much moving on from that aspect. My friends and I have over 800 hours in the game and ultimately stopped because the amount of bots that would stay near the higher level fishing spots, wood, etc and it would be designed to just go from point a to b and constantly collect it. Then it would sell the stuff to the point no one would ever make money on the trading posts. They had no control over that.
Oddly enough I have been in a kick for crafting in games, and thought I'd go back to New World because I remember loving the gathering/crafting loop. Then all this hit and I am not sure where I am with it now. hope AGS clarifies what is going on.
I can understand why they want to get rid of the MMO title. Most people when they see MMO they don’t like the grind or boredom that follows. It’s why most MMOs are dying out. Action RPG would bring people in
You are not wrong. I have 6042 hours played in NW since launch but I haven't played in the last two months because nearly everyone I know and played with, stopped playing. AGS has consistently mismanaged communication and information. They claim that the vocal dissatisfaction is just part of a very vocal minority and that the majority of players are getting what they want from the New World DEVs in regards to fixes/features. However, the attrition numbers say otherwise. This game is beautifully rendered and has a lot of great content for a few hundred hours. After that, there is little to do except what I did: farm expeditions on muscle memory, do endless OPRs on the one and only map they have had since day 1, login for war after war after war, and ignore the horrible way the devs have tried to balance weapons/abilities while introducing new bugs with each patch and still having old bugs that have been around since 2021. Such a shame...
They want to relable the game as an action RPG for 1 reason, single player RPGs don't usually have content updates often. Now they can sit back and try to cash in on consoles, all while not delivering content to players.
I have been digging through game terminology lately to try and find a game that fits my wants best.
I think the issue might be the definition of an Action RPG. Sometimes this refers to a game that is not an MMO, but sometimes it refers to the gameplay/combat style in which you are actively attacking or even aiming at your target manually, instead of tab target and smashing keys.
So far my search for a MMORPG that you can play first person, has dodging, shield blocking mechanics and in which aiming actually matters, meaning headshots do more damage, has led me to Destiny 2 and New World Aeternum.
I currently play ESO, and while I love the game, it frustrates me to no end that my attacks aimed at the head cause no more damage than one I shot slightly outside of their foot, yet magically hits them.
I don't understand how they got so many things right, crafting , gathering.. interacting with the world in general in the game, then completely ruin it.
IF this is how they plan on treating the world of Tolkien in their planned Lotr game, it will be the end for them as a gaming company, that is if this doesn't ruin them first.
What a insult to the dozens of players left.
I think that LOTR mmo/rpg is cancelled. Last I heard, it was scrapped because of arguments between Amazon and the devs.
New World on PC was only dying because they let it die. A lot of players gave AGS the benefit of the doubt and their trust that they would eventually get stuff fixed and add things we could use in the game (more than one OPR map, barbershop, etc.) and the players got burned. The same thing could happen after console launch with the same people making the same decisions on what players really need. Thumbs up for the video.
I think the Devs realized in trying to create Rise of Angry Earth that the lumberjack engine just isn’t going to cut it when it comes to making content. So this is their way of saying, this game is never going to be a strong MMO. So let’s cut our losses and take what we have to the console market as a coop or solo action RPG. With the console market we can meet and possibly exceed those expectations. But for PC, this is now an open world RPG, with some PvP and group content.
I got over 2200 hours in the game, but went on hiatus a few months after Angry Earth expansion was released. Then when this "big" announcement came and went, my heart sank even further. For shits and giggles, last night I logged back on to New World (I hadn't uninstalled it yet, while still keeping up with the steam updates it was given over the last few months.) My 4 characters are still in the same exact position/location I had left them earlier in the year. I decided to run 2 faction missions last night in Elysian WIlds and nothing has been changed. The same feeling came back quickly which caused me to take a hiatus earlier in the year. After 20 minutes, I logged back off. It's just repetitive fluff with no meaningful rewards, especially if you are already geared out for the specs you like to play. Biggest complaints still hold for me: There is no meaningful Endgame that has much replayability, especially after you are geared out. No multi-boss big raids (though, seems like a 10-man raid is coming with multiple bosses.) Doing the 3-5 man expeditions/dungeons over and over becomes boring, doing chest runs becomes boring, running faction and town missions becomes boring, and gathering/refining/crafting becomes boring and quite frankly has become useless too. Also, the limited number of types of mobs in the game is disappointing. And when they do introduce a "new" type of mob, it's just a reskin of an existing mob. As for PVP, I can't comment on that in New World. I like to PVP in other games but not in New World. Tried it once and hated it. Still going to keep it installed on my PC until October 15 when the new game update/relaunch occurs to check it out. But I don't think nothing major is going to change, especially for us PC gamers.
i have hundreds of hours on new world, then they changed the minimum spec to play it. now it lags out when i get into a city or a fight. unplayable for me know.
I quit playing last December because the writing was on the wall that PC players were going to get to spend the next year being beta testers for the console release. First controller support and most recently reworked combat, which has left the current state of the game a complete buggy mess. AGS gave everyone hope by saying there would be a big announcement in June that everyone would love. However, the big announcement was just more crap about console release and the weird shift to being an ARPG. I've put thousands of hours into New World and I used to think it'd be a game I'd be playing for the next 5-10 years, but now I wonder if I'll ever even play it again.
I just uninstalled the game after 6700 hours i had enough trying to find another game with same combat system
Problem with New World is the PVP kids are trying to force Amazon to go 100% PVP and hate the fact that PVE players prefer the game as it is.
Would an Albion player like New World? I know you guys are angry, but are there enough players left to give it ago?
Hm...what do you like most about Albion Online?
I think the dude nailed it. They will make a Wayfinder move and they prepare for it
You know what this sounds like to me?
What it sounds EXACTLY like?
Secret World: Legends.
THe Old Secret World is still playable, bit of a faf but its still up and has a small community
@@CommissarInbram I have very found memories of Secret World. I would love to see a sequel with gameplay like New World has. Alas that will likely never happen.
I don't play the game, but I feel for you guys. I read that the 10 man raid was just an existing dungeon they scaled up to a 10 man.
Is it an AMORPG now? my major gripe with it was the ultra lag in towns with too many players
I have 1500 hours in New World within its first year. I loved this game, so did many of my friends. I'm heart broken, honestly, knowing what it has become. The game has such good bones. It was nearly a perfect MMO for me. Tragic.
It's such a bummer for me.. When this game first came out, I've never been so immersed in an MMO/ RPG in my life, i no lifed the game and was so addicted. The game had a lot of problems yes but the charm of this game is original and like no other for me. I will miss that feeling forever but i hope this game bounces back.. which i doubt.
is the game on this video the New World? it seem like a game from fantasy world...
You have 200hrs.. I have over 2000 hours... I played the Alpha, Beta and played at launch until last September.. You are right they have NO idea how to communicate they have NO idea how to run a MMO and that was my complaint when AGS announced this team... the game was amazing, but they DO NOT listen to any feedback they are given.. I was once the number 1 crafter on my server. My company well 2 companies because we had that many active players... Gave so much feedback but they listened to None from us or anyone else.. 1 PVP outpost rush map almost 3 years later.. really.... We had so many cool ideas for the territories and control and advantaged the company and factions get from controlling them... The videos the NW team puts out are a joke they make fun of the players they tell you nothing... The game is dead.. yes there are about 5000 players... but from game that had over 1 million at launch.... its DEAD they are jumping to console to squeeze money out of it however every PC player is telling the Console players to stay away... AGS needs to fire the people in charge of this game and start fresh.. Do they really think after this game, anyone would buy a MMO LOTR from them..... HELL NO!
AGS eternally chasing trends.
So... I don't own angry earth. And they're forcing me to buy it to play this update. wow.
For reference, look at what happened when The Secret World the MMO, went to The Secret World: Legends.
I got the feeling that they're pulling a SW:TOR. Where they have the mmo elements from existing format and content. But future content is focused on a single-player story and content.
The press statements sound just like the Secret World Legends launch stuff. It's the same kind of stuff being said, and I remember what they did to Secret World. This is not a good thing, and I don't even play New World. I just worry that its players are gonna be hit with that same wretched revamp that they don't want.
It's because there no new content, that's why the numbers are so low
They will never listen to the community. They keep repeating the same mistakes over and over again ad aeternum.
Played during beta and honestly when they revamped the PVP system just a few months before launch against the community's wishes I knew then as I still know today the devs were gonna do what they wanted to do cause to them it's not a game... its a way to make money.
I don't have any real problems with this announcement. I still think there's some massive problems with certain decisions for this game, but not these announcements.
IMO the goal here is capture a new MMO crowd with New World... teens and young 20's first MMO, now on console... I think there's a negative connotation with MMO for some players because MMO = massive time sink. IMO they are trying to capture a mini-FFXIV ARR moment with this re-release. I think very few players have really played through the revamped story and I think it's better than most people realize... and to be fair, the game does play like a 3rd person ARPG.
My actual problem with the game has to do with a progression item, Chromatic Seals, being locked behind gold. Many important gear upgrades require this item, but you can only buy one a day and they cost 5000g each, plus faction tokens (but the faction tokens can be aquired pretty easily IMO).
Last time I was playing my gold supply was slowly diminishing because even though I played a ton I wouldn't passively make enough gold to cover the cost of these seals. It would take an hour or two of my time dedicated just for gold generation to afford the seals, and that's just not how I wanted to spend my time in game. Most people I knew who wanted to play competitively (territory control etc.) would just RMT.
Maybe making gold has been made easier, but that's not really my point... these seals were an important part of upgrading gear, and there's already a daily throttle built into them. Doubling down and making it also into a gold sink is really bad design. Gold sinks and other progression bottlenecks should not be tied to each other for something that's needed pretty often. I don't have a problem with the gold cost or the time limit of another item, Azoth Inductors, I think they are called because an Azoth inductor literally allowed you to make one perfect (3 perk) piece of gear every week... So a 1 week cooldown and a 25k cost does make sense, but I never even got to consider buying these because I never had enough to buy both the Chromatic Seals and the Azoth Inductors.
Anyway.. my actual hope for New World, and the only reason I might play it again, is that my son lives in Germany and we play video games together about once a week...he's on Xbox and I'm on PC. If I can get him interested in a game like this it would be a lot more fun than playing Rocket League for 6 hours (for me at least).... However, I only give him like a 30% chance that he'll actually like the game enough to want to play it much.
That was a political speech right there if i ever saw one, they don't want to name a specific genre 'cause they probably have plans for the future that the MMOrpg players that currently playing most likely wont like ..Milking money as long as they can, from as many as they can - I say its a sinking ship, It's not a game made for gamers, it's a game made for shareholders ..But what do i know..
it all went downhill when they removed hitstun and full loot drop and no pvp servers
This is an excellent video! Amazon is so confused about this… it’s a giant disaster
Devs are the biggest problem of this game from the very beginning.
New World has just been a disaster since day 1. And I was there on launch
I don't think I've ever seen an MMO whose box art made me want to play it less than New World. There was just absolutely nothing compelling or interesting to me about the look of it based on the presented aesthetic. I honestly still don't know anything about the game. Just. "Wow a conquistador centric MMO based around 'the new world', yeah that sounds like 1/10 ass."
That's the problem with MMO players honestly. It bleeds into the devs, why create a new world to *live* in, when you can just make a generic map for people to get addicted to a numbers game in?
You see it a lot with older MMO players, don't care about anything other than number go up. Lore? Aesthetic? Worldbuilding? nahh, that's nerd shit. It's such a shame, because when MMOs are at their peak (IMO with FFXI) you get genuinely moving pieces of art like no other.
My guess is they laid off the ppl they needed.
MMO isn’t a genre in the descriptive sense.
Great breakdown RBF! Feel the same way, had hopes that NW would be great. I still have a few friends that check in on it, but it seems like we have years before they figure out what to do with it.
It's one of those games I wanted to see succeed after they didn't give up on it after the population fell but this just looks so...bad. Like Bless Unleashed 2.0
I feel like the minority here, but I finally plan on buying the DLC after this announcement. To me the game is the perfect RPG. I don’t care for the MMO aspect. The world is beautiful, the community is knowledgeable, and I don’t have to pay monthly for it.
I hope you'll find hours of enjoyment out of it. That's all we can really ask for in games after all!
game is good I have 4800 hours on the devaloka server and 4000 on artorius, the game would be perfect if they left the base game + expansion for 120 reais (very affordable) come back with a threshold chip (I liked leveling armor) I encourage you to do dg in search of them , remove the chromatic seal and inductor, man, I really liked roulette, that emotion of coming encore and selling it for 150k +, or going m10 to try to come internally encore, returning to this roulette and drop system (nowadays the majority come all bound killing the game's economy in relation to the sale and purchase of weapons and sets), have more maps to change the dynamics of gameplay, for example, have standard options and options with other objectives, have instanced and casual warfare without territorial value, increase the pvp track and give you a unique skin for those who have a 300 pvp track (example), reduce the value of the game and focus on having beautiful skins and exploring the game with a game store, with a name rename ticket, selling houses for cash (not houses it bothers anyone and it wouldn't be pay to win) like that.
All these PC players are whistling past the graveyard, upset they aren't getting shiny new toys and the announcement was solely for new players on console. Wake up call: Amazon is many things, but one of them is not stupid. They will not continue to throw bad money after good. New World's current PC population means it is swiftly heading to maintenance mode, and shutdown sooner than later. It makes sense for them to see console as the one hope to get the game back up to healthy player levels. Boggles the mind that people don't understand that.
I liked New World quite a bit til max level and having to do the chest train/circle to increase your gear. The crafting/collecting is one of the best. I just never understood why you wouldn’t have the best gear drop from dungeons. Maybe they have changed it I haven’t played in a long time. But everyone I played with quit for the same reason
Been playing this game off and on since day one. Is it worth the money? Eh, I don't know, story is forgettable, combat was good, but is getting worse... So get it on some sale if you really want to check it out, but do expect a lot of bugs even those for main story and don't expect them to be fixed (I have quests that I cannot finish even 10 months after reporting it). Just don't hope that this is a "forever game", or devs and management will remind you that it is not.
I'm waiting for them free to play, so pay for a game in which 10k is online, I'm not going to buy it
New World was already a pretty much dead game, and changing it into an ARPG might actually work better for the sustainability of the game. MMO's just aint very hot rn with the majority of active gamers today.. I'm excited to try the new format when it comes out.
This is game design by committee. After 400 hours in game, I quit months ago. With this announcement, I've just given up any plans to return. Back playing ESO, at least it knows what it is.
Congrats buddy, you went from one shit game to another. Jesus lobotomites have more common sense than you.
AGS, what a clown show. Yikes. I knew it was bad but I didn't expect it to go totally sideways.
New World is so friggen dead... they need to shut down the remaining servers PERMANENTLY! ITS OVER!
Its an MMORPG with action combat. Also no sub fee so its good still. We all just want more content, and them to stop working so much on old content.
If they would of added more PVP maps or content maybe fixing the lag or balance the classes thats why I left after 1000 hours
beyond fun when i played when the game was new, i really hope they can haul this game back or at least get someone to do so
I feel like if this game going to get more traction is they need actual classes/skills they are very limited to what weapons/skills to use. I enjoyed it for the first month or 2 maybe and i just got bored of it. I just feel like MMO's now a days need variety to keep people entertained, the only MMO that did skills based on weapon choice good, was Guild Wars. Ive tried other games like that and it just didn't keep my attention long.
MMORPG games doesn’t have a legit number to which separates multiplayer and massive multiplayer - until there is a specific number, this controversy about what an mmo is and what an action rpg with coop/multiplayer is will always be confusing.
Wtf 😂 mmo literally just means "not a lobby" of players that number means nothing
@@jtowensbyiii6018 so 60+ players should be considered an MMO
@the.virtual.universe you misunderstand, player count is not relevant to the topic, do the players all have access to and play in the same shared instance? If yes then it's an mmo, if no, it's not, played count is not the determining factor it's the method the game functions
I thought i qas having a stroke while listening to their presentation. I was like...hasnt this all been in the game for years now?!? Why are they explaining what Angry Earth is?!?!
I just wanna be able to play a female character instead of either male or androgynous.
Not logged on in over a year, Should I come back.
If it's all been made solo friendly, I'm a happy camper. I'm looking forward to getting to play through it on console.
We've been through this, Red. It IS hard to define an MMO ;P
If only communication was the sole issue....
so is this a plot to get new world classic? 😅
Is it an MMO if there's only 150 hours on content? Or is it a sort of once and done action RPG?
I put 260ish hours in Black Desert and Lost Ark basically as baby's first step in the water... Just enough to get an idea of how they work and then stopped playing them for various reason. I put 1300ish hours into ESO but now there isn't really enough to keep me interested and I'm not really that interested in mastering the combat. Everyone says they really liked New World but they only last around a month and then put it down.
Maybe they view the genre as fantasy horror and mmo or arpg as the type of game.
Personally I'm waiting for the Dating Sim update.
Sounds like they are scared to say MMO because that will scare a lot of console players away.
Shitting on your future players isn't smart
Oh, it's not Free to Play. I'm not going to spend money on a game I'm not sure I'll like. I don't know how many console players will go for it not being F2P.
I really don’t care what they’re calling it, I’ve played on and off and always enjoy my time with it. I’m just not invested enough to be affected by all this, I guess.
I prefer Polish kielbasa.