Do eggs cause heart disease?

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КОМЕНТАРІ • 610

  • @Zuluknob
    @Zuluknob 3 місяці тому +190

    Does being alive cause death?

    • @Physionic
      @Physionic  3 місяці тому +101

      No studies on that - big pharma doesn't want you to know, Z.

    • @Randsurfer
      @Randsurfer 3 місяці тому +7

      Necessary but not sufficient

    • @Joe_C.
      @Joe_C. 3 місяці тому +10

      Conflicting studies and insufficient data due to small sample size

    • @Freja_Solstheim
      @Freja_Solstheim 3 місяці тому +6

      @@Joe_C. 110 billion people have lived and passed so far and you say not enough data?!? 😅

    • @kinpatu
      @kinpatu 3 місяці тому +9

      @@Freja_SolstheimThat wasn’t an RCT, just observational.

  • @nelsonhoffman5922
    @nelsonhoffman5922 3 місяці тому +49

    My favorite channel for scientific analysis.

  • @Mr.Chedda_
    @Mr.Chedda_ 3 місяці тому +8

    I would just like to say that I for one very much appreciate your light-hearted humor and how you let your quirks shine through, never fails to make me smile or chuckle, do keep ignoring the comments, and thank you for your input and videos! ❤🥚🥜(there is no almond emoji...)

  • @SuperAngelic5
    @SuperAngelic5 3 місяці тому +3

    Thanks for the information. I liked your presentation!

  • @MrCalyho
    @MrCalyho 3 місяці тому +34

    I am also wondering how eggs are counted in those studies. Are cookies and pancakes and all the other egg containing foods being counted as egg consumption?

    • @nextlevel6825
      @nextlevel6825 3 місяці тому +5

      This is extremely relevant. Would like for Physionic to tell us here if this is happening.

    • @paulhailey2537
      @paulhailey2537 3 місяці тому +3

      Bologna on White Bread Covered in Ketchup is eating Meat by every Study done

    • @tgferg67
      @tgferg67 3 місяці тому

      Just how the egg is prepared has an effect, cooking beyond runny yolks oxidizes the cholesterol.

    • @wasteddude
      @wasteddude 2 місяці тому

      ​​@@tgferg67really? So even boiling eggs oxides them? Wouldn't it depend on the temperature and if vegetable oil is being used?

    • @tgferg67
      @tgferg67 2 місяці тому

      @@wasteddude Hard yolk = more oxidized cholesterol.

  • @Nicholasj911
    @Nicholasj911 3 місяці тому +26

    Thanks for cracking this one open for us

  • @frankenz66
    @frankenz66 3 місяці тому +25

    I remember my parents, their siblings, and friends debating over this question over 40 years ago.

    • @jakehayes1345
      @jakehayes1345 3 місяці тому +2

      Of course they sided with the Almonds to kick ass...... am I right?

    • @frankenz66
      @frankenz66 3 місяці тому +3

      @@jakehayes1345 🤣 Most of them got fooled.

    • @jakehayes1345
      @jakehayes1345 3 місяці тому +2

      @@frankenz66 they got egg on their face::))

    • @travisadams4470
      @travisadams4470 3 місяці тому +1

      The Yoks on you 😂

    • @frankenz66
      @frankenz66 3 місяці тому +1

      @@jakehayes1345 Not in their stomachs for sure. They mostly fell for it. God forfend our government or media would lie to us, right?

  • @Ermude10
    @Ermude10 3 місяці тому

    This was very interesting! Thank you!

  • @didgeridooblue
    @didgeridooblue 3 місяці тому +142

    Only 8 eggs per week? I commonly consume twenty eggs/week.

    • @Lennythewinner
      @Lennythewinner 3 місяці тому +2

      So?

    • @carlosgaspar8447
      @carlosgaspar8447 3 місяці тому +7

      they only have negative effect when combined with statins.

    • @michazytecki965
      @michazytecki965 3 місяці тому +14

      28 eggs per week here for 3 years straight now

    • @lisahannah3175
      @lisahannah3175 3 місяці тому +4

      I don’t know how many I consume, maybe not 28, but between 12 and 24 is likely. No research on that apparently

    • @macmcleod1188
      @macmcleod1188 3 місяці тому +4

      12 to 14 here. My regular breakfast right now is 2 eggs, a handful of vegetables, cooked in a very small steel skillet at a low heat for about 4 minutes with a lid on. I add cheese and replace the lid and let it sit two minutes.
      I used to eat name brand breakfast sandwiches in a red box but the bacon is thin as paper now and the "egg" patty now tastes like pure egg white. These cost about $1.25 each and I would add some tomato sauce and cheese and maybe a little fajita vegetables to them.
      My current breakfast is cheaper even using $6.50 per dozen eggs. I'll add a thin pork loin to it a few days a week. And it tastes a lot better.
      One key was "seasoning" the steel pan. The eggs were sticking to it. Basically put a bit of olive oil in the pan and then cook it til the oil turns into a brown layer. That layer is about as slippery as teflon. I have to avoid using steel to clean the pan to preserve it.

  • @efri33
    @efri33 3 місяці тому +1

    Love the video. Thanks for the depth and balance, as always! This topic never seems to come to a satisfactory end. Egg yolks used to induce atherosclerosis in some experiments. Keto, pro-egg is real popular among UA-cam audiences. These studies seem to look at up to 8 eggs per week vs 4 per day people are filling up on (unless I misunderstand). So much more to know but the studies aren’t there.

  • @SkootySpeedmite
    @SkootySpeedmite 3 місяці тому +8

    These studies need to be redone but with 30-40 eggs per week, and all participants get good amount of exercise per week as well. I need these results lol

    • @macmcleod1188
      @macmcleod1188 3 місяці тому +1

      There's someone here on UA-cam that ate something like 100 in a short time and then got all of his blood work done. I don't think it showed a particular problem with his blood work. But you'd have to search for it. He does a lot of body experimentation like this but I forget his name.

  • @ericskinner7355
    @ericskinner7355 3 місяці тому

    Thanks for mentioning other risk factors. Something that is often overlooked...

  • @dansklrvids7303
    @dansklrvids7303 3 місяці тому

    I really enjoyed the detail of this.

    • @Physionic
      @Physionic  3 місяці тому

      Thanks - I love telling stories through data. I think I can do a better job, but it turned out pretty nicely, regardless.

  • @mircdom4603
    @mircdom4603 3 місяці тому

    thank you for the balanced take on it, it would be great if in addition to plain correlation (controlling for variables) some causal inference would be brought into discussion. once again thank you for considering ("ignoring" the irrelevant comments, mine inclusive when it adds to the noise)

  • @TheYangnyin
    @TheYangnyin 3 місяці тому +8

    Do these studies include what was eaten with the eggs (salt, butter, potatoes, ham, etc)? Or what they eat when they eat when they don't eat eggs?

    • @JasonBuckman
      @JasonBuckman 3 місяці тому +1

      You mean ultra processed food like the white bread, fried potatoes, and juice?
      Salt, butter, and ham aren't the enemies.

  • @whatthefunction9140
    @whatthefunction9140 3 місяці тому +5

    Why are so many heath influencers say dietary cholesterol has no effect on total cholesterol?

    • @Physionic
      @Physionic  3 місяці тому +6

      Because it’s generally true

    • @Lozwave
      @Lozwave 3 місяці тому +2

      @@Physionicyeah because you don’t take into account baseline serum cholesterol and the parabolic curve. If you already eat high amounts of cholesterol and you eat more.. your cholesterol tends not to spike. But if you are on a plant based diet for example and then you suddenly eat 3 eggs per day, you will see a dramatic spike. You can fudge the data and make it look like eating 10 eggs a day doesn’t raise cholesterol that much.. because the person already had a high cholesterol diet etc. like I said, it’s a parabolic curve not a linear

  • @pedro.almeida
    @pedro.almeida 3 місяці тому +14

    Very balanced review. As always, moderation seems to be the key. No need to avoid eggs, but it doesn't make sense to eat half a dozen before breakfast either. 😊

    • @felixbonneau1834
      @felixbonneau1834 3 місяці тому +4

      What about half a dozen for breakfast

    • @pedro.almeida
      @pedro.almeida 3 місяці тому

      That's fine 🫢

    • @michaelpeters364
      @michaelpeters364 3 місяці тому

      Worked for Rocky - -'Ey, yo! I prefer them cooked, though.

    • @felixbonneau1834
      @felixbonneau1834 3 місяці тому

      @@michaelpeters364 Raw eggs taste better

    • @zygis4000
      @zygis4000 3 місяці тому

      ​@@felixbonneau1834raw egg whites also inhibit biotin absorption, raw egg yolks are totally fine tho

  • @peanutnutter1
    @peanutnutter1 3 місяці тому +62

    Let me be the first to say how eggselent today's episode was

    • @Physionic
      @Physionic  3 місяці тому +10

      Yes - all I can say is 'yes'.
      (and, thank you)

    • @bill9989
      @bill9989 3 місяці тому +3

      ​@@Physionicdon't encourage that 😊

    • @anonymoussource7999
      @anonymoussource7999 3 місяці тому +9

      That was a good yolk.

    • @bhut1571
      @bhut1571 3 місяці тому +9

      That's not an eggageration.

    • @peanutnutter1
      @peanutnutter1 3 місяці тому +5

      @@anonymoussource7999 the chicks like it 🐤🐥

  • @SonnyDarvishzadeh
    @SonnyDarvishzadeh 3 місяці тому +31

    I went on a 6 to 8 boiled eggs per day diet with occasional bok choy and lost 21 kg (-20%) in 3-4 months. i.e. that's like an extended fast with some protein, fats, vitamins and minerals.

    •  3 місяці тому +11

      That says literally nothing about the risk of heart disease and eggs... It's just kinda worthless information 🤷

    • @SonnyDarvishzadeh
      @SonnyDarvishzadeh 3 місяці тому +3

      @ Well true! I took blood tests before and after and all I can say is that the doctor said both are okay. My low iron and hypothyrodism haven't changed.

    • @ssa8479
      @ssa8479 3 місяці тому

      @@SonnyDarvishzadeh I’m hoping to one day overcome my hypothyroidism. I developed low iron in the two years I was vegan and continued to donate blood regularly. Ate a lot of spinach and smoothies with it, but it took a couple of years of keto to get iron levels up.

    • @dannyspitzer1267
      @dannyspitzer1267 3 місяці тому

      What's your apo B?

    • @SonnyDarvishzadeh
      @SonnyDarvishzadeh 3 місяці тому

      @@dannyspitzer1267 do you assume every doctor is up to their game and every generic blood test includes apo B by default? every physical watches peter attia's videos?
      I'll tell you my apo B after you tell me your telomere length. Measure the good ones please.

  • @scrollop
    @scrollop 3 місяці тому

    Great, thanks a lot!

  • @Chaotic313
    @Chaotic313 3 місяці тому

    An apropos video for my morning, as I just sat down to watch a video with my three egg breakfast! And I'm pairing it with my temperature perfect coffee from my "joeveo" mug. Thanks Dad!! 🥚🥚🥚☕😋

  • @adanice49
    @adanice49 2 місяці тому

    This video was great and I’m glad I’m in a place where I’m not emotionally attached to the pro- or anti-egg crowd. As a young seemingly healthy and active person with high cholesterol, I’ve always been cautious about eggs but haven’t written them off outright. Anyways, I appreciate your ability to communicate the nuance of inconclusive information

  • @MitzvosGolem1
    @MitzvosGolem1 3 місяці тому

    Excellent channel.
    I am on oatmeal and fish veggies diet from this channel.
    Thanks 👍
    Ps most baked goods have eggs in them also .

  • @janarns3380
    @janarns3380 3 місяці тому

    Great video as always. Appreciate sharing all your work and your honesty!! This channel will be one of the most busy ones in the future 😁 I'm wondering though what all those food studies are really worth? While watching the video, I only kept asking myself, how are the eggs eaten/prepared in most households? And What do people with let's say higher egg consumption mostly eat beside the eggs? Like e.g. do the Europeans eat them with fried ham and half burnt toast on the side? 😅And/Or do the Asian's rather just boil their eggs and hence the eggs might have less altered or oxidised fats? Which is probably not the case, just some random thoughts. Too many factors seem to always play a role in those studies. 🧐 Anyway...love your content! 🤘🙃

  • @davidjohnston4240
    @davidjohnston4240 3 місяці тому +25

    If your great grandmother (who didn't get diabetes or heart disease because it was rare back then) ate eggs, then it is fine. She also ate lard, tallow, suet and butter instead of seed oils - the greatest confounder of modern nutritional studies.

    • @MichaelGGarry
      @MichaelGGarry 3 місяці тому +6

      She didn't get them as they weren't diagnosed *or* people were dying before that of other conditions we can now treat. Its not a confounder at all.

    • @EdwardsNH
      @EdwardsNH 3 місяці тому +5

      @@MichaelGGarry Seriously... these people who "Oh, we used to [fill in something ridiculous] and we were fine" need to get someone else to do their thinking for them

    • @Klaudiuszeg
      @Klaudiuszeg 3 місяці тому

      Yes, and she is probably one of the hundreds people who lived to her age, because everyone else is no longer with us

    • @davidjohnston4240
      @davidjohnston4240 3 місяці тому +1

      ​@@MichaelGGarryDo dietary fats matter? Yes. We're they controlled for? No. Therefore they are a confounder. Statistics is like that sometimes.

    • @dragonwithagirltattoo598
      @dragonwithagirltattoo598 3 місяці тому

      Then what killed her? Did she live forever?

  • @omnimetric84
    @omnimetric84 3 місяці тому +12

    I eat 3-4 per day and have for many years. At 61, I’m low carb/real food, healthy metabolic markers, athletic, and run circles around the grandkids.
    I’m not even remotely concerned 😁

  • @whobdis77
    @whobdis77 3 місяці тому +2

    Good stuff as always. Had heart blockage in 2004 so tried to keep up with this kind of thing. Needless to say it's been a big frustrating at times. Back then it was all about avoiding fat. Nothing on avoiding sugar (or whatnot). I have a hard boiled egg almost every morning and that's been going on for a decade. It doesn't appear to be making things worse as I have yearly stress test (though the value of that is coming into question). I'm going to side with 'positives outweight risks'...or at least neutral. I do have high LPa but diet has little effect on that.

    • @the4theyeofra974
      @the4theyeofra974 3 місяці тому +1

      High, or even low, Lp(a) is pretty much generally set by age 5 for life I believe, what are your ApoB levels comparatively?

    • @whobdis77
      @whobdis77 2 місяці тому

      @@the4theyeofra974 86..last time it was tested

  • @flavioluis8218
    @flavioluis8218 3 місяці тому +59

    I eat 4 eggs per morning every single day

  • @TriStateTrichomes
    @TriStateTrichomes 3 місяці тому +1

    would love to hear a breakdown on L-citrulline.

  • @davidellis1550
    @davidellis1550 3 місяці тому +4

    I wondered 1) if the effect is greater at lower levels of LDL. If youre at 70 it might go up easier than if youre at 150. 2) how do you know if youre a cholesterol hyper responder. My ldl did seem to go up 30 points or so when i ate more eggs. But maybe it was from other dietary changes as well.
    Great video

    • @Lozwave
      @Lozwave 3 місяці тому +2

      If you eat loads of exogenous cholesterol, your LDL will already be very high, adding more eggs on top of that won’t cause a linear rise.. it will be a small increase, that is because there is a parabolic curve. If you are zero exogenous cholesterol for example a plant based diet, and then decided to eat 5 eggs per day, you would see a dramatic rise in cholesterol. The damage to the heart is done when you have constant elevated levels of LDL that oxidise in the bloodstream and cause atherosclerosis. LDL is the only critical risk factor for atherosclerosis. Other risk factors such as smoking damage endothelial cells which make it easier for ldl particles to stick. Macrophages infiltrate into the arterial wall and uptake excessive ldl lipids, leading to the formation of foam cells which explode and the cycle continues.. it then calcifies which is the plaque formation.

  • @mishmohd
    @mishmohd 3 місяці тому

    I happen to be an honorary member of the nut council and I concur someone did fund a study or two about eggs.

  • @YuanYuLiao
    @YuanYuLiao 3 місяці тому +9

    After doing a meta-analysis of more than 36 studies, I found your channel is one of the best we should follow.
    And you are one of the best, most intelligent and most ISTJ medical-health-nutricional UA-camrs.
    However, as always, there is one caveat: you don't like (and might delete?) summarizer for your videos.

    • @Physionic
      @Physionic  3 місяці тому +1

      Yes, please no summaries - they hurt the channel.
      Thank you for the hard work on your meta-analysis. :)

    • @YuanYuLiao
      @YuanYuLiao 3 місяці тому +4

      @@Physionic Is there any meta-analysis showing that summaries hurt the channel?
      Or is it just your educated guess?
      Your videos have no timestamp, because you think it hurts the channel?

    • @marshallsaltzman9924
      @marshallsaltzman9924 2 місяці тому

      @@YuanYuLiaoit seems pretty common sense that if people get a summary then many just won’t watch the video. So all of his work would be wasted

    • @YuanYuLiao
      @YuanYuLiao 2 місяці тому

      @@marshallsaltzman9924 Please be careful with "common sense":
      Pseudo Dr. Berg and Pseudo Dr. Ekberg allow summary in their videos, both have millions of subscribers and views.
      Dr. Huberman too.
      Nevertheless, this is NOT the "proof" that summary help the channel.
      I will do a meta-analysis to find out.😃

  • @ellenh278
    @ellenh278 Місяць тому

    Thank you.

  • @harrymagooslum5770
    @harrymagooslum5770 11 днів тому

    I’m 58 years old and since I was a young child I’ve been fascinated with health and nutrition. I’ve had many friends who were much older than me and I’d ask the ones who were in their mid to late 90s a lot of questions about their habits. Almost all said that they ate eggs daily. Most also had a routine of hanging from a bar overhead (stretching their spines). I’ve taken to doing both as I seriously think that there is something to this.

  • @billsheehy1
    @billsheehy1 3 місяці тому +40

    I am 92 years old and I have been eating eggs my entire life along with free range bacon and I am still alive and kicking.

    • @Lozwave
      @Lozwave 3 місяці тому +6

      Congratulations I know smokers who are 80 and still kicking, doesn’t mean smoking and eggs don’t contribute to atherosclerosis

    • @doom9698
      @doom9698 3 місяці тому +4

      That's a nice anecdote. Wish you great health!

    • @jamescalifornia2964
      @jamescalifornia2964 3 місяці тому +1

      ​@@Lozwave - Those who smoke and live a long life eat eggs ! 🥚👌

    • @ggpeebles
      @ggpeebles 3 місяці тому

      How many bypasses have you had?

    • @johantansir-nt4ep
      @johantansir-nt4ep 3 місяці тому +1

      Until i meet you in person, i will call this BS

  • @SF-ow5ru
    @SF-ow5ru 3 місяці тому +153

    The short and long answer is .. No.

    • @sergey9986
      @sergey9986 3 місяці тому +4

      No. The answer is that it depends on the amount of data correction.

    • @nunyabeezwacks1408
      @nunyabeezwacks1408 3 місяці тому +1

    • @SF-ow5ru
      @SF-ow5ru 3 місяці тому

      ​@@sergey9986I stick with my answer.

    • @jasoncdebussy
      @jasoncdebussy 3 місяці тому +1

      Well said

    • @Fearzero
      @Fearzero 3 місяці тому +13

      Saturated animal fat indeed raises CVD risk. That's well beyond proven. Only flawed studies ever showed no damage from saturated animal fats vs polyunsaturated. Mineral oil and margarine are in the studies that end positive for SAFAs. Those are not good comparisons. When actual polyunsaturated fats were put against the saturated animal fats the results were overwhelmingly negative for the saturated animal fats. I've read through 50 studies.

  • @DILFDylF
    @DILFDylF 3 місяці тому +8

    I've been swallowing eggs and I feel okay most of the time

  • @NotThatKindOfKiwi86
    @NotThatKindOfKiwi86 3 місяці тому

    Could you collect all the data you've reviewed so far and make some kind of ultimate health guide?

  • @alansnyder8448
    @alansnyder8448 3 місяці тому

    This is a very timely video for me. I'm very healthy except for high LDL and ApoB results, so have started Lipitor to control cholesterol levels. This all started at the end of February.
    My typical breakfast was two eggs per day, which I tried to restrict. So, I've been debating if I should stop eating eggs, and these results do give some interesting things to think about. I think I won't completely stop eggs, since I know they have other benefits, but will at the same time keep a close eye on my LDL-C levels in blood tests which I plan on getting about every 6 months.

  • @stevenwilson6060
    @stevenwilson6060 3 місяці тому

    Thanks!

  • @mrpatriot2909
    @mrpatriot2909 3 місяці тому

    What about eating only egg whites? I’m 65 Years old & very healthy :-) Love your videos!

  • @jamescalifornia2964
    @jamescalifornia2964 3 місяці тому +2

    _" Fish and eggs are the perfect food for humans. "_
    ~ Jack LaLanne 💪

  • @Frodojack
    @Frodojack 3 місяці тому +4

    I wonder if egg preparation matters, such as frying eggs in seed oil vs animal fat vs a healthier oil like evoo or avocado or no oil at all such as hard boiling.

    • @Physionic
      @Physionic  3 місяці тому +2

      Certainly a possibility

  • @buddymutt123
    @buddymutt123 3 місяці тому +20

    i eat 6 a day

    • @Physionic
      @Physionic  3 місяці тому +16

      Did your heart stop?

    • @buddymutt123
      @buddymutt123 3 місяці тому +7

      @@Physionic i also eat a spoon of butter and coconut fatt everyday :D

    • @Lennythewinner
      @Lennythewinner 3 місяці тому

      So?

    • @user-px3pd2ki6v
      @user-px3pd2ki6v 3 місяці тому

      @@Physionic I eat five eggs a day for a year now And I lost 30 kg of weight

    • @RC-tm8jo
      @RC-tm8jo 3 місяці тому +1

      I ate 4 per day for 6 months straight. Before starting this, my LDL was 105 mg/dL and my HDL was 46 mg/dL. After 6 months, my LDL decreased to 94 mg/dL and my HDL increased to 79 mg/dL. I maintained the same level of activity and very low carbohydrate diet while experimenting with the 4 eggs per day.

  • @phineas737
    @phineas737 3 місяці тому

    Any thoughts on studies that link egg consumption and prostate cancer?

  • @bhut1571
    @bhut1571 3 місяці тому +3

    Yikes I typically eat two large or extra large eggs a day...14 eggs a week. I'm 78...maybe the end is near.

  • @zialuna
    @zialuna 3 місяці тому +1

    As with all animal products, the diet of the animal is important. Grass fed (vs. grain fed - usually grains with high pesticide & herbicide levels) will have a different nutrient profile as well as a lower burden of chemical residues. Grains are high in fatty acids that promote inflammation while grasses and forbes provide anti-inflammatory fatty acids. Big difference!

  • @Monnknight
    @Monnknight 3 місяці тому

    Can you make a video about Peptides E4 to treat fibrosis? There is also an article on the Internet that says that 20% of published research is false. What do you think about that? Thank you

  • @keesoosterheerd903
    @keesoosterheerd903 3 місяці тому

    Thanks for the video. Are the studies used in the meta-analysis double blind experiments or "just" observational studies? In the latter case I would take it with a pinch of salt (just as I take my 5 eggs a day, so it would be nice if I could downplay the risk).
    Cheers!

  • @robblankenstein6825
    @robblankenstein6825 3 місяці тому

    Would like to see you review the Sydney heart diet study. Someone dug the data up.

  • @ramxehs1180
    @ramxehs1180 3 місяці тому

    Is this for cooking eggs with oils or every form of consumption like boiling or cooking with water?

  • @bobhill4364
    @bobhill4364 3 місяці тому +1

    Clearly the answer here is yes. Your risk simply goes up or down depending on what the rest of your diet looks like.
    A low dietary saturated fat and dietary cholesterol diet is simply the most protective and it's not even close.

  • @janiceg7661
    @janiceg7661 3 місяці тому +3

    I am adding eggs into my diet…I was trying to avoid because I thought with my high cholesterol I wanted to stay away from all dairy…I bought macadamia nuts and oil too after one of your videos. I’m desperate to lose 20 ish lbs and lower my cholesterol. Hashi hypo post menopause sux.

    • @aurapopescu1875
      @aurapopescu1875 3 місяці тому

      If you have Hashimoto's you need to cut out all gluten, all grains and possibly dairy as well. I went Keto exactly 5 years ago (at the age of 53) and that fixed ALL my health problems. I recommend you take a look at the videos of Amy Berger (Keto and thyroid specialist), Dr. Eric Berg, Dr. Eric Westman, Dr. Peter Osborne.

    • @ZmogusJaponija
      @ZmogusJaponija 3 місяці тому +3

      Hm, not sure how you will decrease cholesterol by consuming food which increase choleterol?

    • @aurapopescu1875
      @aurapopescu1875 3 місяці тому

      @@ZmogusJaponija Silly question...

    • @noah5291
      @noah5291 3 місяці тому +1

      ​@@ZmogusJaponijaplease do not go keto if you are trying to lower your CDL. That guy who responded probably doesn't even believe that high CDL is harmful, when there is plenty of evidence that it is, including on this channel.

    • @ZmogusJaponija
      @ZmogusJaponija 3 місяці тому +3

      @@noah5291 too late. I was on low carb (little meat, but eggs 4 per day and diary and fish) for a ~5 year. It worked for a few years because I moved to keto from eating shit. But I ended up with LDL of 140, insulin resistance and brain inflamation (results of high saturated fat diet by the book). Luckily somehow I was able to break from keto/low carb bubble, got info about whole food plant based diet and it completely changed things for me.

  • @shinola228
    @shinola228 3 місяці тому

    Interesting but my concern is the possible increase in prostate cancer associated with egg consumption. A video on that would be enlightening.

  • @ronmexico5908
    @ronmexico5908 3 місяці тому

    The medium length answer is potentially

  • @jaynyc2555
    @jaynyc2555 3 місяці тому

    I am interested in the research being done in Japan; on natural teeth regrowth. what the science says?

  • @juan_martinez524
    @juan_martinez524 3 місяці тому +1

    could you please analyse dr robert lustig and his "it's the fructose" theory?

    • @Lennythewinner
      @Lennythewinner 3 місяці тому

      Lustig also claims that branched chain amino acids can (and do) promote fatty liver disease. I recently did a cursory Google Scholar search using such terms as 'branched chain', 'leucine', 'fatty liver', 'NAFLD' in various combinations, and the general thrust of the references that my search returned - at least based on the articles' titles - was that branched chain amino acids protected against fatty liver disease, or at least mitigated some of its associated abnormalities.

  • @vojkostar
    @vojkostar 3 місяці тому

    is there an info on omega 3:&:9 ratio in eggs (gassfeed, organic or in battery grown chicken) ? i guess thiss is important how good egs are

  • @patrickdegenaar9495
    @patrickdegenaar9495 3 місяці тому +1

    It all depends on what else you eat when not eating eggs. For example in my own case breakfast cereals send my glucose levels straight into the diabetic range whereas 3 eggs do not. So even if eggs are associated with increased cholesterol, the glucose spiking effect of breakfast cereals is probably much worse. Also everyone responds differently, as well as differently with age.

  • @Pazuzu-
    @Pazuzu- 3 місяці тому +3

    Not sure about heart disease, but they can cause some massive allergies, even more severe than dairy.

    • @wolfrahmphosphoros5808
      @wolfrahmphosphoros5808 3 місяці тому

      but that is in People, Who are allergic. there are other foods that also cause allergic reactions in People, Who are allergic to certain compounds contained in them. or do You mean that a normally tolerated food can cause allergy in an otherwise non-allergic Person? regards. ps. why on Earth do You call Yourself "pazuzu"? I dare You, and Anybody reading this, to check out the case of pazuzu algarad-there are a few documentaries about the guy, You will be beyond disgusted having found out what da dude did in his house...

  • @gijane4070
    @gijane4070 3 місяці тому

    Good one, still would like to know if high LDL or oxidized LDL are the cause of atherosclerosis or both are as bad as each other????

  • @WakfuH
    @WakfuH 2 місяці тому

    Most people buy the cheapest eggs possible, I'm quite sure the balance switches to something more positive if we consider free range eggs, and even more if we consider omega 3 eggs (hens fed with flaxseed oil)

  • @immanuelkuhrt8508
    @immanuelkuhrt8508 3 місяці тому

    How about the role of cholin in the eggs in acetylcholin? I fry my egg whites for taste and better protein absorption, and I eat my yolks raw to preserve the cholin. Tastes fine in many foods. However, I don't know how the body actually deals with the cholin from the yolks - wether it gets put to good or bad use.

  • @tylercompton2896
    @tylercompton2896 3 місяці тому

    I would be interested to know, in a general population, if greater egg consumption is tied to greater overall consumption. I believe almost every food would have a greater risk if it is measured on an additive basis as opposed to a substitutional one.

  • @scudderbrown9275
    @scudderbrown9275 3 місяці тому +2

    Is there ever any distinction between backyard free range chicken eggs vs factory farmed eggs? The eggs look so different. It seems like this could be why a study in Asia didn't show the negative results like the studies in the US.

    • @Ermude10
      @Ermude10 3 місяці тому +2

      No, almost all eggs in Asia are factory farmed nowadays as well. I think the health differences between free range and factory farmed are likely to be miniscule (although ethically they're very different.) My guess as to why the effects are different is that the way eggs are prepared differently. Eggs are likely being consumed together with more saturated fats (bacon, butter, etc) in the West compared to Asia which might use it more for stir frys.

  • @terber12392
    @terber12392 3 місяці тому

    I wonder about the quality of the egg, does it make a real difference. Such as "Egglands" which boasts higher Omega 3s, or "Pasture Raised" eggs. I noticed in the recent news about eggs they encouraged higher quality eggs.

  • @VoxBox1
    @VoxBox1 3 місяці тому +2

    Were any of these studies based upon food substitutions, i.e. substituting eggs for unhealthy foods, which would skew the results? Thanks.

    • @Physionic
      @Physionic  3 місяці тому +1

      Good question. No.

  • @stanleytomasetti1074
    @stanleytomasetti1074 3 місяці тому

    Question. Shouldn't you separate egg consumption and diet? Eggs and a high carb diet will have a different effect verses eggs and a keto diet. Do you agree?

  • @melznutz3313
    @melznutz3313 3 місяці тому +1

    Raw eggs in my protein drink everyday ❤

  • @RXP91
    @RXP91 3 місяці тому

    Love the nuance in these videos. As ever - compared to what? Compared to breakfast meats, hell no it's much better! Compared to a tofu scramble sure, even if it's a tiny amount (LDL raising)

    • @ZmogusJaponija
      @ZmogusJaponija 3 місяці тому

      You mentioned tofu in carnivore/keto community comments. Brave soul :)))

    • @Physionic
      @Physionic  3 місяці тому +1

      Always compared against 0 egg consumption. Thanks!

    • @noah5291
      @noah5291 3 місяці тому +2

      ​@@ZmogusJaponijaactually there's plenty of vegans who watch Nick's videos, including myself. This doesn't seem to be a carnivore/keto channel, it seems like Nick is interested in the truth, I see commenters of all different stripes in here.

    • @ZmogusJaponija
      @ZmogusJaponija 3 місяці тому

      @@noah5291 Those vegans are pretty silent then :) Quickly looked through the comments here, seems majority here eats XX eggs per week and have an uncle who was eating 20 eggs per day and lived until 96 :)))

    • @noah5291
      @noah5291 3 місяці тому +1

      @@ZmogusJaponija that's because most people are omnivores, and most keto and carnivore people can't help but the write up a 3 sentence paragraph as soon as eggs, keto, or some other combo of words sets them off.

  • @Kreuzauge
    @Kreuzauge 3 місяці тому +1

    Frying up 4 eggs in a few minutes - thanks!

  • @TCBytom
    @TCBytom 3 місяці тому

    One important note here. If confidence interval contains "1" we can't get decisive conclusion because group is too heterogenous regardless if it is RCT or epidemiological study. Confidence interval is important because is it a c.i. which provides main statistical conclusion for general population. Single value of RR refers ONLY to a stydy sample and is exact. True value of RR for general population lies inside confidence interval. But You said it, so I'm writting it for recapitulation. The second note: In epidemiological studies RR anything less than 2 is considered as a statistical hum even if test gives statistical significance. All presented meta-analysies were epidemiological ones. We need RCT studies.... Eggs have high fraction of HDL cholesterol and they tend to rise HDL in humans as much as even up to 50-80% from baseline. But we know that single nutrient works in specific context of other nutrients. Eggs work well in context lower carbohydrate diets and low consumption of Omega-6 fatty acids (seed oils in general). Eating eggs on SAD diet (Standard American Diet - eat as much sugar, sweets, starches and seed oils as you can) is a bad choice from my perspective..... Good video otherwise.

  • @hugomarquez3189
    @hugomarquez3189 3 місяці тому

    Yes

  • @qigong1001
    @qigong1001 3 місяці тому

    Eggs with bacon, or steak? Buttered toast? Anyway, if it raises LDL and some say in excess can be inflammatory, then have your eggs with avocado (anti-inflammatory and maybe increase HDL).

  • @Holy.HannaH
    @Holy.HannaH 3 місяці тому +1

    Almond vs Egg:
    I think we need to remember that the egg wont crack so easily or fall apart when it's in hot water, aka a fight🤷‍♀️
    In my opinion, this(like many other aspects) again comes back to fatty acids & mitochondrial haplogroups.
    Which would also explain the difference in the results between Asian peoples vs European & American.

  • @3cardmonty602
    @3cardmonty602 3 місяці тому

    I eat upwards of 60 eggs a month & when I had a heart catheterization performed 2 years ago my coronary arteries were clear. You might ask why I had to undergo a heart catheterization. I had to have my aortic valve replaced due to endocarditis. Still eating about 2 eggs per day, and my current lipids are: Total Cholesterol=186, Triglycerides=46, HDL=62, LDL=115, VLDL=9.

  • @zachcain2639
    @zachcain2639 2 місяці тому

    My understanding is ~40% of people will see a sharp increase in LDL from dietary cholesterol. Hard to know if you’re a “hyper responder” without checking your own numbers. I saw a big drop in LDL when I cut out eggs

  • @kimchionruis
    @kimchionruis 3 місяці тому

    It is critical what the fatty acid profile of the eggs are. As in, what were the chickens fed. Corn and canola? Or grass, bugs, and the odd mouse? Very different result.

  • @PardieDiem
    @PardieDiem 3 місяці тому +13

    Chicken eggs coming from China, chickens fed soybean garbage feed, or chickens raised on free ranging bugs. It matters!. That's the problem with these studies. They are lacking in way too much data!!

    • @franklay5605
      @franklay5605 3 місяці тому +3

      Your underpants you are wearing coming from China also

    • @FuzzyBearYT
      @FuzzyBearYT 3 місяці тому +4

      So please reference the studies comparing how the variables you list change things?
      If you can't do that we will know you are merely expressing an opinion (i.e. a hate for anything from China which is a known horrible and wrong bias)

    • @KidHorn7001
      @KidHorn7001 3 місяці тому +2

      Are the Chinese shipping eggs to the US? Seems like refrigeration and shipping costs would be more than the retail cost.

    • @sophiacromwell8017
      @sophiacromwell8017 3 місяці тому

      @PardieDiem are you referencing eggs that come from farms that are in the US, and owned by Chinese/ follow common practices of Chinese animal husbandry? I don’t know enough about the ways that people from different cultures raise animals to comment on your question… I just know that I really like eggs that come from pasture raised chickens that eat a lot of bugs! LOL! They seem to have the most orange & tastiest yolks!

    • @PardieDiem
      @PardieDiem 3 місяці тому

      @@sophiacromwell8017 Do a search on food safety concerns in foods from China. I'm not saying the USA doesn't have safety concerns either. I was just pointing out there are issues with quality and that could reflect on the quality of the eggs in reference to a scientific study. Plus that's a long way for eggs to travel to get to your grocery store.

  • @Mrwan13
    @Mrwan13 3 місяці тому

    Another study found a high correlation between eggs and heart disease with a 95% confidence interval, but looking deeper in the study it didn’t measure the cholesterol but the strain on the participants; as they were asked to try to lay eggs….

  • @LeviathanSparrow
    @LeviathanSparrow 3 місяці тому +23

    So, two key takeaways. Are these correct?
    1) eggs can be good for you if you're healthy
    2) an almond would win a fight against an egg

    • @Physionic
      @Physionic  3 місяці тому +5

      I think that's fair to say... :)

    • @soylentgreenb
      @soylentgreenb 3 місяці тому +1

      No. The key takeaway is that it's all full of confounders and a relative risk ratio between 0.5 - 2.0 is not likely to even be real.

    • @powerguiller
      @powerguiller 3 місяці тому +5

      Almond would win in accumulating oxalates😂

    • @PardieDiem
      @PardieDiem 3 місяці тому +2

      @@powerguiller Eggzactly!

    • @werundwarum
      @werundwarum 2 місяці тому

      @@powerguillerbetter getting kidney stones than dying of prostate cancer 😅

  • @motivationtomakeparentsproud
    @motivationtomakeparentsproud 3 місяці тому

    Hello, please guide me, I eat about 5 small eggs daily so thats 35 per week and I workout 6 days a week for 2 hours every day. Should I stop eating eggs and consume whey protein and chicken for primary source of protein?? Should I get a blood test done?? Please.

  • @chrislyons6951
    @chrislyons6951 20 днів тому

    Did the consumption of toast, butter and salt increase with every egg? If the studies controlled the daily calorie intake, then we need to know what the eggs were swapped with, fish or cake etc.

  • @KasKade7
    @KasKade7 3 місяці тому +2

    I have been consuming 6 eggs/weekly for many years. Most of the time with bread and 2 at the time on weight lifting days. But the eggs I eat are very high in Vit.D3 and Omega3. You want eggs from chickens that have a great diet and are healthy themselves. The yolks should be almost a orange color. Very nutrient dense. Actually, I mainly take them for choline as a biohacker, not specificly for protein. As always, quality over quantity. Alot of protein is not a good thing, no matter how many health gurus try to convince yo otherwise.

    • @wolfrahmphosphoros5808
      @wolfrahmphosphoros5808 3 місяці тому +1

      colour is irrelevant, unless You get your eggs from a safe, high-quality source. colourants are added to chickens' feed that then give colour to egg-yolks. also, I wouldn't rely on any food for Vitamin-D. regards.

  • @dontrend5956
    @dontrend5956 3 місяці тому

    UPDATE: 11/20/2023
    Originally published 6/10/2023
    Several published research articles on eggs and prostate cancer point to choline, a nutrient primarily in egg yolks, as a possible culprit in causing prostate cancer (PCa). A 2022 Cleveland Clinic study[i] found that, “Men with increased choline … had almost twice the risk of lethal prostate cancer as controls,” according to a medical news story. Choline is an important nutrient, but overdoing it by consuming egg yolks may increase PCa risk. According to the published paper, “Men who consumed 2.5 or more eggs per week had a 81% increased risk of lethal prostate cancer compared to men who consumed less than half an egg per week.”

  • @kinpatu
    @kinpatu 3 місяці тому +2

    Would be randomized in the studies but worth mentioning that there is a genetic mutation that makes a small minority of people hyperabsorbers of dietary cholesterol.

    • @wolfrahmphosphoros5808
      @wolfrahmphosphoros5808 3 місяці тому

      He's mentioned it in the video. regards.

    • @carinaekstrom1
      @carinaekstrom1 3 місяці тому

      And people with naturally low ldl may all hyper respond?

    • @kinpatu
      @kinpatu 3 місяці тому

      @@carinaekstrom1 Unlikely. A person would need the genetic mutation to absorb xenosterols. Those patients actually absorb a lot of phytostetols from plants, which is bad news.

  • @garyanderson7050
    @garyanderson7050 3 місяці тому

    Would be good to test just egg yolks or whites

  • @richardcottone6620
    @richardcottone6620 3 місяці тому

    I like the music

  • @jilliskriek1
    @jilliskriek1 3 місяці тому

    Choline is (with insitol) a fat vitamine used for brainfunction and others. Is this bad to take as a supplement you say?

  • @carinaekstrom1
    @carinaekstrom1 3 місяці тому +1

    So doesn't it all depend on what you are replacing with those eggs? And is it even possible to keep your ldl as low as 50-70 (with diet only) if you keep eating eggs?

    • @ZmogusJaponija
      @ZmogusJaponija 3 місяці тому +1

      Nope. If you are aiming at 50-70, this can be possible with mainly whole food plant based diet with little or no oil, but nuts and seeds. Both Dr. Greger and J. Fuhrman has more info and links to multiple studies. Ok, one egg per week maybe you can get away with.

    • @pomberry3591
      @pomberry3591 3 місяці тому

      What do you mean "with diet only", you cannot remove genetic factors from the equation.

    • @carinaekstrom1
      @carinaekstrom1 3 місяці тому

      @@pomberry3591 The majority of people don't have genetic difficulty keeping ldl low. It's mostly a dietary choice.

  • @kousoumarendall7948
    @kousoumarendall7948 10 днів тому

    I eat 2 eggs on alternative days between fish and meat . So, In total I eat 4 eggs, 2 fishes, 2 meat per week. Pray I'm doing right ✅️. Sunday I eat Thai, chinese, Japanese or Korean diet😂

  • @isoldam
    @isoldam 3 місяці тому +3

    A lot of people in the US use butter, which contains saturated fat, to cook eggs. High saturated fat consumption may be a factor in the difference from the Asian studies.

  • @wolemai
    @wolemai 3 дні тому

    You really have to include other significant factors for the egg eating people in these surveys. For example, do people who eat eggs also tend to consume other items that could be significant?

  • @franknurnberger1102
    @franknurnberger1102 3 місяці тому

    Quick question about how a meta-analysis of studies does actually help. If we do not look into the methodology of every single study, do we not run the risk of aggregating a lot of nonesensical studies? If you ask 1.000 hospital patients or 1.000 college students about their egg consumtion and then (ignoring all 1.000 their risk factors for their cardiological health) show some correlation, how does that make us any wiser?

  • @frelsmeg
    @frelsmeg 3 місяці тому

    Asians tend to eat a lot of rice. Adding an egg to a rice meal may lower the glycemic index of that meal; done often may lower the A1C of the person.

  • @ArchieArpeggio
    @ArchieArpeggio 3 місяці тому

    Well that is the problem of these random studies that the other factors for general health, lifestyle and diet is so different for people that so reliable studies are imposible to make just adding few eggs into the diet.
    There should always be large amount of people (even better if everyone would be a clones from one human) and everybody should have same kind of health, diet and lifestyle.
    Also it makes big difference are people having carb based "normal" diet/lifestyle or ketogenic.
    For food in general is it mostly processed or whole foods made from scratch.

  • @tspicks4360
    @tspicks4360 3 місяці тому

    I wonder if the studies in these meta analyses were looking at particular age groups, etc. I've seen some such that looked at "university graduates" and found no association between egg consumption and cvd ... but then, we wouldn't expect much at younger ages. I know a meta analysis is said to be the gold standard for examining such questions, but I've seen too many with, essentially, sketchy studies included.

  • @JohnSmith-il7jn
    @JohnSmith-il7jn 3 місяці тому +1

    I eat one egg, banana or apple and some walnuts for breakfast. This seems about right in comparison to eating the traditional American breakfast of several eggs, bacon and toast every day.

  • @thanehumphrey6476
    @thanehumphrey6476 3 місяці тому

    Thank you for your egg analysis. You nailed it...definitely a confusing topic.
    Now, can we talk you into diving into Alzheimer's? Specifically the use of Sildenafil in reducing risk by 60%.
    Would love to hear your analysis before forming my own opinion. Thank you!

  • @KidHorn7001
    @KidHorn7001 3 місяці тому

    I've seen videos that state how the eggs are cooked can have a big impact on their healthiness. Basically, cooking at high heat is bad. Something happens to the cholesterol at high temps. You should boil them in water. Don't fry them.