Really do not appreciate how much work goes into building custom pillars. Would not know where to start without you sharing this ... I know first hand how much filming slows the job down, so appreciate the effort you make even more.... thanks for another amazing fabrication master class Peter
Incredible... I watch these video's in awe of what you do. Anyone that thinks this isn't sorcery and magic has never tried this before. And the fact your fearless with the most expensive cars :) love it...
Thank you Peter de nous montrer toutes les étapes de ton travail. Je sais que ça te prends énormément de temps, mais cela nous aide beaucoup pour nos propres réalisations. Really thank you Peter. Hello from France
Just an excellent video of a well-built perfectly executed set of pods. Obviously you spend a lot of time and thought so you can get the most out of the space you have to get the best Imaging and separation.. I love the use of fullrange speakers and it gives me just a wonderful feeling that these are working as well as they are. Even through your phone's microphone you can tell the clarity as if there was a tweeter involved. Peter thank you for these videos and the time it takes for you to put them up! I promise you it's not a waste!
all i can say is you are incredible doing such insanely difficult fabrications. yet you always beating the odds with an absolute perfection in the end. cheers!
I am in the same boat as you are. My Passat B6 has the base midbass-tweeter front and back. I have upgraded the radio, added an old SH 6 channel amp to power the front + a cheap JL 12w0 sub and the sound changed for the better already (yes, amplified stock speakers). What I do wish would be for the midrange to pop out better, rather than having to push the door speakers using the EQ. My issue is that I don't know if pods could be built with basic tools or should I just use the stock position for the midrange located lower in the door. Good luck with your build mate!
Thank you so much for this video mate, yet more to think about for my system, wish I was in the UK to be able to hear your systems, maybe one day, thanks again for all the content, hints, tips and pursuit of quality in today's obsession with mediocrity.
They run of a Alpine PDX V9 atm, but they’ll have a Helix E20 behind them soon. The car was let go with a 80Hz 12dB setting to let the speaker run in. I wouldn’t advise to run the RG100 lower then 150Hz 24dB on higher listening levels, plus in that car there’s not much response under 125Hz out of them anyway. Also, they are not meant to do kickbass duties, but with a well installed 6-8” driver they can easily integrate!
Happy Days was a goofy old television show that was on in the 70's in the states peter haha anyways i like seeing the different materials you use,im curious about the blue colored material,no not the tape haha. was it fiberglass mixed with something else ? im going to be doing a set of 3 inch with tweeters this summer and i like the design of these.im curious if it would sound different if i used some wood in my build along with fiber glass and bondo filler ,i dont have the milk shake stuff,but im actually going to be trying something new this time around so we'll see.
@@pssound9749 thanks peter,i read a thread on DIYMA about sealed enclosures for 3'' but i couldnt tell what they agree'ed on in the end,if you look at book shelf speaker enclosures with 3 inch they are sealed boxes,some even ported,so i will be doing research.i get my pioneer 99 on the 3rd,cant wait,then i will save up to buy some 3'' mid's happy days right.need to know if audible physics can play loud enough to keep up with my bass.talk to you later.
@@pssound9749 pretty loud bro,i have the WRX hatchback so you know how bass is,ive got one sundown X12 that hits low being ran on a dc audio 2.0k amp and for the moment i have a PPI 900.4 channel for mids and highs like 125 watts per channel,im going with dayton audio 8'' mid bass in my doors this summer like i have in my truck..but im not going to lie,i do crank it up pretty loud,but not for long periods, what do you think ? definately on axis with my 3'' and tweeters right ? should i be looking for something else besides the audible's peter ?
ok i did it peter,i got the pioneer 99 omg its awesome totally worth the money,i went with 3 inch dayton audio rs75 i believe thats the ones,i had to aim them quite high up about 12 inches forward from the dome light so it was a night mare building these pillars but it was worth it.i am now tuning each day and getting better,the imaging is right in the center,but i think something is missing,not quite sure if its the natural sound i want or a little more clarity haha yea so im working with eq settings,i also bought a 2005 chevy 2 door blazer so im building a huge bass system in it.for fun.cheers buddy
On the top of the 😷 and safety glasses?! 😃 As the working space is not glamorous, i kinda don’t want to show everything, plus you always have to leave a bit for the imagination! For a first video it wasn’t that bad, was it? 😊
Corsa Pilotti any wideband without a tweeter has to stay within 20degree on-axis if you want to hear the top-end detail, you can not cheat physics! Other option is to use the windscreen’s reflection.
How high up you can play the RG100 depends on the location and install and only after that you could tell properly what tweeter would be the best, what range the tweeter would need to play.
Thanks Adam. Yes, and i’ve shared it there too. Interestingly fancier looking, funky pop grill and LED lit builds get more interest...i just don’t see why people care more about the look and not the sound!? 😳😃
@@pssound9749 Still keeping it secret? I don't blame you if it works the best, let it be your "secret recipe", lol. Great work! I love your "unorthodox" method how you save filler!
What's your opinion on a sealed enclosures vs. infinite baffle A pillars? Would you do sealed enclosures every time if you had enough room to do so, or is the difference so marginal that it isn't worth the bit of extra time and work to do sealed? I'm currently starting to fabricate my own and before I cut the bottom half of the pillars off I'd like to know your opinion. I have enough space to mold sealed pods, just wanted to get your opinion of the sq difference between both ways from what your ears hear? Thanks!
I dont have extreme high end 3" drivers, but they are wideband and are able to play from 200 Hz to 20k, and I'd like to get the best out of them. I imagine it gives you a tighter sound which I love, but you lose a little on the low end doing sealed pods. I just wanted to know your opinion sir. Thanks again, lol. I'll shut up now, ha.
You can loose bottom end and have a larger peak above the roll off point in a small pod for a mid, hence i usually make pillar builds open back, so they can breathe. Watch one of the last videos showing pillar fabrication, that also explains few things. In this case these 4” widebands would have had too chunky looking pillars and the dash was flat, so we built these pods instead, which could also be sealed up as they seemed large enough for the required job.
Destaye it all depends on the crossover point and slope. If you run it fullrange, then 20W is plenty, but if you cross it 150-200Hz 24dB/oct, then you can pair it with a 100-150W amp channel as in reality you never use more than 10-20W anyway.
Oh i see! Well, i always emphasise the importance of install and using the right drivers for the application. If you can give everything for these RG100s, the result is on a whole different level! They can run tweeterless, whereas the Focals might only be able to run upto 5-7kHz and they can also cover an octave lower than the Focals.
You have me wanting to tackle a set myself and upgrade my processor, amps, and go all active. How do the Audio Physics compare to the HAT Legatia SE 3.7”? I kick my self in the butt! I left a pair of HAT $700 speakers in the dash. I should of put some Vifas in their place.
gamecockspalmetto nah that was a bad decision! 😖 Both AP & HAT have great widebands. Tbe RG100 was a special one though i think, but it’s discontinued, so would be difficult to get hold of.
Really do not appreciate how much work goes into building custom pillars. Would not know where to start without you sharing this ... I know first hand how much filming slows the job down, so appreciate the effort you make even more.... thanks for another amazing fabrication master class Peter
Incredible... I watch these video's in awe of what you do. Anyone that thinks this isn't sorcery and magic has never tried this before. And the fact your fearless with the most expensive cars :) love it...
Thank you Peter de nous montrer toutes les étapes de ton travail.
Je sais que ça te prends énormément de temps, mais cela nous aide beaucoup pour nos propres réalisations.
Really thank you Peter.
Hello from France
Just an excellent video of a well-built perfectly executed set of pods. Obviously you spend a lot of time and thought so you can get the most out of the space you have to get the best Imaging and separation.. I love the use of fullrange speakers and it gives me just a wonderful feeling that these are working as well as they are. Even through your phone's microphone you can tell the clarity as if there was a tweeter involved.
Peter thank you for these videos and the time it takes for you to put them up! I promise you it's not a waste!
all i can say is you are incredible doing such insanely difficult fabrications. yet you always beating the odds with an absolute perfection in the end.
cheers!
Fabulous Job on the Mid Pods as per usual! Semper Fi and Can Do OORAH
I've never had a midrange and i was debating on adding one this video is helping somewhat.
I am in the same boat as you are. My Passat B6 has the base midbass-tweeter front and back. I have upgraded the radio, added an old SH 6 channel amp to power the front + a cheap JL 12w0 sub and the sound changed for the better already (yes, amplified stock speakers). What I do wish would be for the midrange to pop out better, rather than having to push the door speakers using the EQ.
My issue is that I don't know if pods could be built with basic tools or should I just use the stock position for the midrange located lower in the door.
Good luck with your build mate!
I now understand why you'd want 4" mids on the A pillar. much better than doors or kicks.
Excellent work as always, nice t have explanation and comontary on your builds
Thank you so much for this video mate, yet more to think about for my system, wish I was in the UK to be able to hear your systems, maybe one day, thanks again for all the content, hints, tips and pursuit of quality in today's obsession with mediocrity.
Thnx Peter.. just the item I’m searching..
Hi, Are you after the RG100?
Beautiful job. I may look into these speakers for next season.
Super cool build
For $700 bucks they better sound fucking amazing!
Very nice work.
what a fantastic video! Thanks
Note: I use sand to determine the volume, it is very fast and dry 😉
As always, very high quality
Игорь Константинович sand doesn’t show leakage. 😉😃
@@pssound9749 you do everything very well - there can be no leakage 😃
Very nice
Why not vent into the dash? I ask because I just got a set of the black version that I need to decide on how I'm mounting
Sure, you can do it that way. In this car the owner wasn’t ready to cut the dash just yet.
Side mirrors Defog vents got covered
Yes. Windscreen blows everything off.
You might have answered this question. Why do u not stretch fleece over it an use resin
Shaun That would give less airspace and is a more painful job due to using resin.
Wonderful video dude. I think I may have missed, but how are you fastening the pods to the dash itself?
Kyler Brown it’s shown in the video, it’s bolted inside to the pillar.
Could add a small amount of polyfill to the smaller enclosure to make it act like the bigger one if people were that bothered.
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Peter. What this build in your garage.
Yes, like 5-6years ago.
Great work. How low are you playing them and how much power are you giving them?
They run of a Alpine PDX V9 atm, but they’ll have a Helix E20 behind them soon. The car was let go with a 80Hz 12dB setting to let the speaker run in. I wouldn’t advise to run the RG100 lower then 150Hz 24dB on higher listening levels, plus in that car there’s not much response under 125Hz out of them anyway. Also, they are not meant to do kickbass duties, but with a well installed 6-8” driver they can easily integrate!
@Pssound Do AP have wide band speakers now? If not which other brands are good for 3 or 4'' wide band ones currently
Shouldn't there be some poly filled in there? And the smaller airspace could you just stuff more poly?
Jud, there’s a fair amount of filling in it, just not shown. It’s always advised to experiment with the amount of fillings.
Wont the 4inch driver start beaming up above 8 to 10k or does that not matter in car?
Amazing
Peter, did you went for a specific volume or it doesn't make a difference for the drivers?
It does a big difference, especially if you want to run them low.
LOL, I should have watched the entire video before I commented.
I have the brax ml3.Brax suggests a sealed enclosure.Any negatives if I dont use sealed in my pillars
Happy Days was a goofy old television show that was on in the 70's in the states peter haha anyways i like seeing the different materials you use,im curious about the blue colored material,no not the tape haha. was it fiberglass mixed with something else ? im going to be doing a set of 3 inch with tweeters this summer and i like the design of these.im curious if it would sound different if i used some wood in my build along with fiber glass and bondo filler ,i dont have the milk shake stuff,but im actually going to be trying something new this time around so we'll see.
onewheelup That blue stuff is like bondo, fiberglass enforced filler. Whatever you use, just make it solid!
@@pssound9749 thanks peter,i read a thread on DIYMA about sealed enclosures for 3'' but i couldnt tell what they agree'ed on in the end,if you look at book shelf speaker enclosures with 3 inch they are sealed boxes,some even ported,so i will be doing research.i get my pioneer 99 on the 3rd,cant wait,then i will save up to buy some 3'' mid's happy days right.need to know if audible physics can play loud enough to keep up with my bass.talk to you later.
onewheelup How loud are we talking? What subs and amps do you have?
@@pssound9749 pretty loud bro,i have the WRX hatchback so you know how bass is,ive got one sundown X12 that hits low being ran on a dc audio 2.0k amp and for the moment i have a PPI 900.4 channel for mids and highs like 125 watts per channel,im going with dayton audio 8'' mid bass in my doors this summer like i have in my truck..but im not going to lie,i do crank it up pretty loud,but not for long periods, what do you think ? definately on axis with my 3'' and tweeters right ? should i be looking for something else besides the audible's peter ?
ok i did it peter,i got the pioneer 99 omg its awesome totally worth the money,i went with 3 inch dayton audio rs75 i believe thats the ones,i had to aim them quite high up about 12 inches forward from the dome light so it was a night mare building these pillars but it was worth it.i am now tuning each day and getting better,the imaging is right in the center,but i think something is missing,not quite sure if its the natural sound i want or a little more clarity haha yea so im working with eq settings,i also bought a 2005 chevy 2 door blazer so im building a huge bass system in it.for fun.cheers buddy
I can’t find these speakers any where. Who sells them? No dealers here in the states.
Paul SLA Acoustics in USA, comes up in first 3 in google search too! 😉😃
I suggest a head mounted gopro so you can video with both hands free.
On the top of the 😷 and safety glasses?! 😃
As the working space is not glamorous, i kinda don’t want to show everything, plus you always have to leave a bit for the imagination!
For a first video it wasn’t that bad, was it? 😊
So these mids are picky with on-axis performance ? Or pretty flexible
Corsa Pilotti any wideband without a tweeter has to stay within 20degree on-axis if you want to hear the top-end detail, you can not cheat physics!
Other option is to use the windscreen’s reflection.
Same with building a midrange RG 100. If I want to play 3 way, should I add Super Twitter or just Twitter RG 50?
How high up you can play the RG100 depends on the location and install and only after that you could tell properly what tweeter would be the best, what range the tweeter would need to play.
Also using center speaker?
Great video.. been watching ya for a while now... are you on Carbide Cult?
Thanks Adam. Yes, and i’ve shared it there too. Interestingly fancier looking, funky pop grill and LED lit builds get more interest...i just don’t see why people care more about the look and not the sound!? 😳😃
Pssound honestly I care about both and so do a lot of the guys
Hey peter what is the base made of that you're using for the apillar pods??
Mmm, fiberglass with resin?? :D
oh ok thank u
@@pssound9749 Still keeping it secret? I don't blame you if it works the best, let it be your "secret recipe", lol. Great work! I love your "unorthodox" method how you save filler!
B. Ramquist it’s been shown several times since.
What's your opinion on a sealed enclosures vs. infinite baffle A pillars? Would you do sealed enclosures every time if you had enough room to do so, or is the difference so marginal that it isn't worth the bit of extra time and work to do sealed? I'm currently starting to fabricate my own and before I cut the bottom half of the pillars off I'd like to know your opinion. I have enough space to mold sealed pods, just wanted to get your opinion of the sq difference between both ways from what your ears hear? Thanks!
I dont have extreme high end 3" drivers, but they are wideband and are able to play from 200 Hz to 20k, and I'd like to get the best out of them. I imagine it gives you a tighter sound which I love, but you lose a little on the low end doing sealed pods. I just wanted to know your opinion sir. Thanks again, lol. I'll shut up now, ha.
You can loose bottom end and have a larger peak above the roll off point in a small pod for a mid, hence i usually make pillar builds open back, so they can breathe. Watch one of the last videos showing pillar fabrication, that also explains few things.
In this case these 4” widebands would have had too chunky looking pillars and the dash was flat, so we built these pods instead, which could also be sealed up as they seemed large enough for the required job.
Which is the best car dash speaker ? amongst jbl component 6.5 inch & infinity reference 4022cfx four inch speaker & why ? Plz reply ?
6.5 inch vs 4 inch? Whats kind of comparison is this
genious ❤
What crossover freq do you let them handle?
ricky ang 150Hz 24dB upwards.
How many watts do they handle RMS
Destaye it all depends on the crossover point and slope. If you run it fullrange, then 20W is plenty, but if you cross it 150-200Hz 24dB/oct, then you can pair it with a 100-150W amp channel as in reality you never use more than 10-20W anyway.
my audible physics dealer doesn't have these speakers yet, how much are they?
Where are you based?
nz - my supplier is awesome.
New Zealand?
yeah.
Which one is better Rg100 or audible physics nz3?
RG100 💯
Which mid bass are these?
Audible Physics RAM6A were used in enclosures later.
@@pssound9749 thanks for your reply. Enclosure on the doors or on the kicks ?
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If u decide between focal elite krx3 vs these which one you preffer
Ranvijay You can not even compare the 2. These are point source widebands. A component kit can never be as coherent.
Pssound i mean to say that these midrange r better of focal es 3 inch midrange r better
Oh i see! Well, i always emphasise the importance of install and using the right drivers for the application.
If you can give everything for these RG100s, the result is on a whole different level! They can run tweeterless, whereas the Focals might only be able to run upto 5-7kHz and they can also cover an octave lower than the Focals.
Pssound thanks
👍👌
You have me wanting to tackle a set myself and upgrade my processor, amps, and go all active. How do the Audio Physics compare to the HAT Legatia SE 3.7”? I kick my self in the butt! I left a pair of HAT $700 speakers in the dash. I should of put some Vifas in their place.
gamecockspalmetto nah that was a bad decision! 😖
Both AP & HAT have great widebands. Tbe RG100 was a special one though i think, but it’s discontinued, so would be difficult to get hold of.