Finally A Comfortable Military Pack! - Varusteleka Särmä TST RP80 Recon Pack - Review
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- Опубліковано 27 січ 2025
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Today Luke is reviewing the Särmä TST RP80 Recon Pack from Varusteleka. This is a product that a lot of you have been asking about and I've finally got all of my testing done. A special thank you goes out to the Patreon supporters for voting and selecting this video to go to up today.
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Price : $443.99USD
Weight : 8.1lbs / 3700g
Capacity : 80L when fully expanded / 85 liters when you factor in the 2.5 liter bottom pockets
They, in collaboration with Finn-Savotta Oy, developed the RP80, an 80 liter sustainment pack which is designed to be tall and slim. This design distributes weight closer and above the wearer’s center of gravity and spine, and also allows unrestricted arm and elbow movement when skiing; a must for Nortic and Arctic users.
Adjustable carry system for user heights 5.2 to 6.5
Top loader with bottom zipper access, optional space divider inside.
Vertical design allows unrestricted arm movement when skiing.
PALS webbing for attaching pouches and gear.
MILSPEC materials, 1000D Cordura and DUR-aluminium.
Made in Finland and Estonia.
THE PACK BAG
Max. dimensions 85 x 37 x 25 cm + bottom corner pouches.
Total volume 80 liters.
Weight 1700 g.
Drawcord divider inside, top compartment height 60 cm, bottom compartment height 25 cm.
Roll top closure with added security/compression strap.
Zippered bottom flap with two security/compression straps.
Two large baggy bottom corner pouches. Volume approx. 2,5 liters per pouch.
Two 75 cm long compression/tie down straps on each side.
Hydration bladder compartment inside.
Two horizontal tie down straps inside against the back.
Carry handles on the sides and lower back.
A seamless, uninterrupted 7 x 22 PALS matrix goes around the whole upper half of the bag.
Two vertical attachment point straps along the back.
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I was in finnish military and almost all our gear is made by savotta. The military uses the gear 24/7 for decades and sometimes its even painfull how long the gear lasts. I had cooking kit from 50s and some backpack from 60s or 70s. You can not complain about the price if you havent used some of their gear.
Yeah and the torture the gear gets in he military is just crazy!
My mess kit was from 70's and I gave it a nice coat of soot once when we we're competing on how to boil water and we burned the most tarry wood ever. I kept it with the black tar smell until we had to return them. Best thing ever was opening your cabinet after multiple weeks without forest and you got that tar smell.
mahonenk0 specially this design. Or rather it's military predecessor the Finnish paratroopers recon ruck sack. Meant for long range patrols behind enemy lines, where troops have to carry all their gear with them. Meant for dropping from airplane on parachute, heck designed to land from rather significant head without parachute etc.
This is development of that design with modern touches and ergonomics from varusteleka and savotta.
Made by the company who have been making for example those aluminium load bearing frames for decades for brutal military abuse and which have been torture tested to the point of soldier simply not being able to physically carrying anymore.
Because whatever you save in personal gear long range patrol packs on more in ammunition and explosive charges. 10 kg AT mines or explosive demolition charges etc.
i just bought a savotta jakkarri medium and it just feels good
lol your rifles are from the 60s and 70s as well
Well this pack went up in price quite a bit, over 600 if anyone is wondering, great review, it looks great
I’d like to see what you think about this pack now since having it for 3 years
I'd definitely like to see a new review!
Update needed!
How has it held up? Do you still think as highly of it? Have you found a better value?
I'm stuck between this and the jääkäri XL any recommendations please
@@Legionnaire7777 Same.
@@TitaniusAnglesmithI ended up getting the Jääkäri XL in a sale plus the XL has a lid which is removable too. 👍🏻
Great review! I noticed this pack on another video you made and was intrigued by it. At my age (75) it is not something that I would get a sufficient return on investment, but that doesn't mean I don't appreciate the quality and versatility of it. Glad to see Moose back out of the shop. Keep them coming.
I'm 60 and will buy one if I can.The return will come back to me the first time I use it and it carries the load and does its job right without breaking. I will pass it down to one of many nephews and grandchildren that are active out in the back country.
i think for you older guys its even more important that its comfortable to carry and doesn't break you
Take it to the grave gramps!!!!!!!
I am digging the pack. The frame and suspension really have caught my eye. I do like external frame packs for the comfort level they afford.
I absolutely love this pack, been using it on my hunting/backpacking trips this past month, and carrying my hunting rifle in the side pocket, it's an amazing pack and heaviest load using in the pack is about little over 50lbs
Just so you know, and my apologies on your wallet in advance, Savotta has released models with Rifle pouches and those things are an absolute treat.
+Jake Boss Do you mean they were designed to carry 50 lbs of kit and gear or do you mean that a bit more than 50 lbs is the heaviest loads you carry on most trips? Given the size of the ruck, the metal frame, as well as the tons of MOLLE and the ability to mount the CP15 on top, I'm guessing it's the latter, as mounting some big MOLLE pouches ( like the U.S.G.I. MOLLE 2 sustainment pouches, and similar pouches ) and filling the CP15 like an assault pack and mounting stuff onto the MOLLE on that would probably give you more than 30 extra pounds of stuff, especially if you added another 100 .0z hydration bladder in the CP15's hydration pouch. What do you estimate the ruck can carry when packed to capacity ( I'm sure it's more than most people could carry, but assuming the soldier carrying it is a big, muscular guy that works out a lot, can carry huge amounts of stuff, and is trained at a very high standard )? I'm guessing 150 and more
Funny. Lots of comments about people telling their 150$ backpacks are as good and in the same category. Well, they´re not. Like said in the video it competes with other military grade backpacks made for professionals. It might not have the appearance of a stealth fighter but that doesn´t make it bad. It´s made to last. Not look pretty on the top of your shelves.
Price tags have a tendency to scramble some brains.
- Luke
Plus, someone trying to be stealthy would probably remove the bag if it's possible to retrieve it later. I imagine the large shape would stick out a bit, so I might look into some sort of camo netting system that I could jury rig to it.
boy is my wife going to be pissed :)
Hahaha I know the feeling. You would think by now that our wives would be accustomed to our ways....but no!
- Luke
ric cartwright
Buy her one too. Problem solved.
I guess if you say it fast enough it sounds good buuut I don't think so :)
You should have married a Finn. Lol! My Texan husband doesn't always appreciate when I tell him I had to buy some new backpacking gear! Yep, I'm Finnish myself.
Hah !
I bought this pack a little over a year ago. Top notch great quality! Luke thanks for the review on this one. I couldn't be happier with this investment. GREAT PACK!
How do you like it??! Was it worth 500 bucks? Lmk please your opinions
I bought one of these last year and this review helped a lot. I haven't been able to use as much as I'd like because of recent events, but a couple of notes:
1. It seems they've revised the RP-80 pack a few times, so the pack I got is not exactly the same as in the video. Nothing major, but the pack I got does not have the grab handles on the side. They do supply some straps though which will allow you to attach grab handles wherever you like on the webbing. Also the assembly instructions on their website are slightly out of date.
2. As mentioned in the video, it's not exactly ultra-light. However I can agree that it is very comfortable. I haven't noticed any chafing with the straps or anything like that. The frame keeps the load well supported. In fact once I was strapped in the frame was keeping my back straight and preventing me from slouching. Standing around with a heavy pack feels absolutely fine. I'd suggest getting some nice boots with good support to help your feet out.
3. The bag can be removed from the frame and you could carry whatever you like with the frame. As noted, the frame has a small shelf. Varusteleka also sell the frame and straps/belt separately so you could probably fit another bag to this frame if you felt inclined to. Considering that the bag is a fairly significant portion of the weight, you could probably attach a smaller bag to the frame and save on weight while keeping the comfortable frame and straps/belt.
4. Sadly, the hip belt cannot be detached and used as a battle belt. A quick detach system would have been really nice.
I hadn't ever bought a outdoor pack or single item this expensive before but I don't regret it. Another option is to look at the Savotta Jaakari XL. Same manufacturer, similar size but with more features. However I do like the RP80 because it is simple and has fewer things to worry about.
They've changed the design on these slightly now. Introduced a fairly crippling flaw in the shoulder straps. The adjustments aren't made with a ladder loc anymore, but rather a double d-ring setup like you see with some belts. Causes it to slip loose if it flexes in any way due to the lack of friction.
Easy fix is taping up one of the d rings, but I haven't seen this change addressed anywhere. All the reviews for the RP80 are for the initial release version, not what's being sold now.
Hope all is great for you and your family Luke! Happy trails ;)
Everyone is doing great brother. Thanks for asking. My daughter is about to sign up for the.....
I'll make an announcement soon! Hope you all are doing great too.
- Luke
I watched the review that you made of this pack I thought it was totally perfect for me because you thought so much of this pack I decided to buy one and I purchased a bunch of accessories with it I spent over $1,000 total with the pack and accessories and I want to say thank you very much because this pack is totally fucking awesome it looks absolutely great the way I have set it up it carries everything I need and then some and still very comfortable thanks again Luke
I have too many packs already, but I watched the video just to see more of the beautiful Moose. Perfect in every way.
Hahaha More on Moose coming soon!
It's time to make a few changes.....
- Luke
i've built my own like that, combined a military pack with an external frame i bought second hand. super great load bearing quality !
Thanks for the review. I love backpacks (Military). Regular packs just don't stand up to several months in the Alaskan/Washington/Idaho/Montana Bush. You do a very good job on the reviews pointing out everything. I still have my original issue Large Alice pack and frame with upgraded pads and straps with added Molie webbing from 1976. It served me well on all my deployments and missions. It still serves me today as my INCH bag.
HellsScoutAct hey hellscoutact what is a inch pack?
Ugh thankyou!!!! Been wanting to see more of this for awhile now!!
Sure thing Crunkinthis!
- Luke
VAR-oo-stel-ekk-aw...Varusteleka...easy enough to pronounce...buy once, cry once...you get what you pay for...great review...
For us finns its easy, but you in english you can pronounce it more like a "where's my liquor?" and its quite close correct :D
Love your channel love your reviews and honest opinions.
I’ll be picking up one of these soon
Heey luke, realy nice pack!
What is your opinion about the Savotta Jaakari XL?
Would realy like to see a video of de Savotta Jaakari XL VS the Sarma TST RP80, how these 2 packs would perform in normal and rough terrain.
Great video and review as always Luke! Thanks for making these!
Savotta really makes good stuff, durable stuff. They might be pricey stuff but they're worth every penny.
and this one is build by savotta (i would say one of the best ones to build) and designed by Varusteleka (again i would say one of the best ones to design. They have seen all of the military stuff and used a lot of them).
I've trained with Norwegian Rangers. They are a very small and elite unit that is unlike ours here in the us. We look up to them and their high standards. They on the other hand looked up to the Finish Rangers that they worked with from time to time. Finland shares a patrolled border with Russia. Graduation is a 100+ patrol across that border. If you return, you graduate. They truly travel light and live off the land and stay undetected. That is much tougher today than it was in the 70s. Their equipment is rugged. They do not have the luxury of swapping out stuff when they are conducting operations in frigid temps way beyond the border. I only met a few and they were soft spoken and very competent men. This equipment is made at a non compromising level. When there is no way to undo a failure, cost isn't the factor that drives the train. This stuff is for the real deal. It is difficult to grasp exactly how tough the environment these packs are designed for. Peace.
AAA-0
It's $512.00 now. By the way, thanks a lot Luke for making me poor! I ordered it today along with the mini pack to act as a lid/daypack. I've watched this video over and over and I'm super stoked for this to come in so I can use it for Search and Rescue. Great video by the way. I usually end up ordering a lot of stuff that you review.
Did u get it was it worth it?
@@MrIlovebmw86 Yes, it's an extremely nice pack. Well worth it.
Varusteleka needs to get that Finnish sleep roll back in stock. I missed out on the site, I snagged one of the those Swedish mess kits though. Awesome kit!
Lamnia sells them too.
What you call grab handles on the sides are used for donning the pack, like you would with a Marine Corps FILBE pack.
You have it in front of you on the ground with the frame up and the head near your feet, grab both side handles, lift up onto your knees then over your head while standing up, and the pack swings onto your back as you slide your arms through the shoulder straps.
Adjust shoulder strap tightness and buckle and tighten the kidney belt, and you're done. Takes no more than two seconds, one usually.
Our packs also have quick release snap buckles so we can dump it instantly.
The only 'Con' I heard in the video was the price: were there other things you might have changed? I see a subscriber has issues with elasticized pockets. How did the elastic on this pack strike you?
Only thing that gives me pause is I don't see a sternum strap. How does the comfort of the shoulder straps compare to packs with sternum straps?
Rory Conall Varusteleka sells this as a separate item for about 20 euros.
@@pandahki Thanks
You remind me so much of luke perry on the TV Show "Jeremiah" i even remember he had one truck just like yours!! what a great show.. nice vid!!!
Also a must have 👍
Wich one would U recommend more the Recon 80 or the Granite Patrole Chief Pack ?
In the millitary the told us to use the bottom Section for water and other heavy stuff, basically heaviest stuff to the bottom and lightest on the top.
Excellent review, young man. I own a Maxpedition Vulture II, but if money were no object, this pack would be on my list to purchase.
I continue to enjoy this pack; truly excellent. - Luke
I can't believe I missed this review. I am a huge fan of Savotta gear. Luke, not only is this pack good looking but it's a perfect match for Moose! My warm weather pack is the MiniJaakari or Jaakari S (small) that is only 20 liters but it holds everything I need for two to three days out. A 500ml Grayl water purifier takes care of my hydration needs. I have the Finnish sleeping mat with the "wings" that suffices for a groundsheet as well to protect my Helikon Tec Swagman Roll (sleeping bag, blanket, jacket, under quilt, poncho liner). For winter I will consider this Sarma Recon pack. Presently I use a MARPAT ILBE I've had for several years and it's still in great condition. When one joins the military be expected to learn and KNOW how to assemble and disassemble your pack, your rifle, your pistol, your gas mask and on and on. You'll dream about it, believe me! As Luke says it's a rite of passage.
Cool Video 👍
Thank U for the Info and the Links 👍
This is a must have love it👍
Have you checked out the Karrimor sf preditor 80-130 liter?
This pack would have been perfect for my aching back… But this is an old video, and this pack is presently not available - what model has superseded it?
Finnish equipment is the best and decigned for war. I just love all of those.
Which bag is better Savotta Jääkäri XL or this bag Särmä TST RP80 recon? They seems pretty similar but with their minor differences?
a very thorough review and very entertaining, as they say you get what you pay for.
Probably the best...
Great pack Luke thanks for another great gear review..
You are welcome brother! Thank you all for watching and supporting the channel.
- Luke
Fantastic review!
Thanks John!
- Luke
When I was in the military I had to carry a 60 pound backpack which was most uncomfortable, nothing like this. And, of course the weapon and ammo too adding 30 pounds at least. And of course the skiis and sticks. Now that was an experience to go to long marches in the snow... Thanks Luke for this one
I’ve been wanting one of these! Having used military packs for years including my time downrange, I do want to try something different than the USMC issue packs. I have them all to date. Marines can carry 80 lbs or more. Most of that weight is ammo..I do like to hike a lot here in Northern Arizona when I get the time! New business keeps me pretty busy and slightly poor! LOL....I will give this unit some serious thought..Great video!
Impressive pack, the sleeping bag compartment is just great. outstanding review and outstanding reporting. Now to check the cost of purchase to australia.
Could the side carry snowshoes the same way they accommodate a rifle?
Currently use Osprey packs and am looking for something better for winter trips.
Nice review man. I just ordered myself one and the wife is pissed!
Between the RP80 and the jääkäri XL, whitch one is the best in term of confort ? :)
Honest question, would you choose Varusteleka's Särmä TST RP80 or Savotta's Jääkäri XL? I just can't decide myself but those are my options. Both are obviously great but I haven't had the chance to haul any stuff in either of them.
I was going to ask the same question
@@rockwall1986 I went with Jääkäri XL, did a weekend hike with carrying roughly 25kgs and I was quite impressed how effortless it was. The padding is superb and waist belt tightens easily and doesn't get loose while wearing the pack. I chose Jääkäri just because of Savotta's long history and knowing that they also make Varusteleka's backback. (which feel like modified Savotta's with Leka's own branding and pricing anyways).
How much weight is it rated to carry?
Love your videos! One quick comment...from the Varusteleka web site... "Varusteleka (pronounced [Where's the liquor?])"
Excellent review.
Am I correct that the interior bag is a giant Dry-bag? I notice that in one look you have a kind of chest bag . Is that part of the system or an add-on?
Nice gear. Nicer truck 👍
More on good old Moose soon!
- Luke
This reminds me of the FILBE. They are both set up the same, both external frame, and both have a separated sleeping bag compartment. Bot have PALS all the way around, and both are solid color, military style packs. Both have radio pouches on the inside, and both have webbing on the bottom to attach more gear. Both have expandable pouches on either side, and both look really awesome. I think the Pros are more in favor with the FILBE though since it has a buckle lid, and attachment points for an assault pack. The FILBE also has 6 compression straps. 2 can be taken off and used as gear holders for the assault pack allowing you to strap you sleep system onto the smaller pack. The pro for the Sarma is that it looks thinner, if a little taller, and it has a frame shelf. It is also green, so it looks like more of a woods pack. If I can get the Sarma for what I got the FILBE for, then I will most certainly get it.
How does it compare with eberlestock?
I prefer this carrying system to kifaru, and I destroyed my Kifaru pack on the first heavy hunt. This will and can take it. the load lifters are definitely not high enough but you can tweak that.
Just got the Jämä finnish wool blanket shirt from varusteleka. Cant wait to try it out.
how wide is the waist belt webbing and can the buckle be removed (for replacement for something better like a pin-roll or Bergbuckle)
I dig it,I'd buy it,I'm already working on saving up for the 170 pack,I believe it's 30 liters or so,nice pack as well.
hey Luke, for your and the family to do some truck camping you might want to look into a light weight aluminum cap, you can find them cheap for that year Chevy! that should have 4:56 gears and a rear locker, you can go with a bit taller tire and probably help your mileage also!
I already love this pack!!!!! 😍😍😍
I love it; thinking about my next trip now! - Luke
You sold me. I'll be buying one. Can you tell me if there is PALS webbing under/inside the two side pockets? I don't care for elastic pockets as they sag eventually. Would rather remove and replace with MOLLE pouch.
How does the pack color match U.S. military OD Green, btw?
Great review.
Hey there Tangent, going on memory...no wait, I have the pack in the house...brb....
No the PALS doesn't go below the side pockets.
As far as the OD, it is close US military; more shiny than flat though.
Cheers brother! - Luke
TheOutdoorGearReview That's great. The pocket seems sturdy enough. I have been meaning to buy some Kifaru for years but I think I'll pick this one you reviewed up instead based on your excellent review. Btw, been testing the gear that I won from you for the past few months. I gave some of it to my daughter, whom is a junior explorer and she loved it. Thanks again for your generous giveaway! Cheers. Strength and honor!
I've purchased several surplus items from Varusteleka in the last year or so. As of March 2022 the price for this pack: "Särmä TST RP80 recon pack
Price 647.99 USD".. Ouch. Inflation and post Covid.
Nice pack. Looks like an upgrade to a pack that was made back in the 70's and 80's.
Looks like a Candidate for the next jungle expedition. Extremely frame and heavy duty construction. The Amazon Destroys cheap packs in days and when you out for 6+ months with no resupply and your life depends on your equipment. You must have Gorilla proof equipment to last and carry the tools to live off the land for up to one year. When the rivers drop you can be stranded for 6 months or more and I have been there and thay still make the pack in 2022. Great video! yes I am old school and 60+ and still going , live each day to its fullest.
If I was a rich man....I am not...dammit. I would have bought this pack yesterday. Along with just about everything else you recommend.... damn this budget of mine...LOl. What a pack...gotta get one. Another great review brother. Thumbs up. Anybody want to by a medium alice pack for $500.00...it has extra pouches ...LOL ARGGGHHHH
Great review!
I bought one of these based on this review (And some more research.) I should warn you that the current model of this pack has quite a few changes. (Mostly for the worse.) The top compression strap no longer exists, the water bladder compression straps are also gone, the top front connection is removed, and the back strap along the center is gone. Also the frame of the backpack now has a slightly different layout. (Not significantly different, buy parts that were curved are now straight bars, and some of the frame was also removed. (Bars down the middle)
That being said, it is a good pack. Not as comfortable as this video makes it out to be. But it may be due to me being MUCH taller than this fellow, or maybe I still need some size adjusting. It is however an incredibly durable and high quality pack. Good luck finding one though, I had a 4 month wait for mine.
Would you say the older version is better as I was just going to purchase one, but with the things you mentioned that are missing and has been changed I'm not so sure now especially as the u.k. pricing has risen significantly too.
Luke, your thoughts on the Särmä TST RP80 recon pack vs the Savotta Jääkäri XL or L rucksack. I'm on the fence.
Between Särmä TST RP80 and Jaakari xl ,which one would you say is easier to carry? better framing and stability? Thanks,nice video
So is there much of a difference between this and the Jaakari XL?
RP80 is designed by Varusteleka with similar principles in mind as did Savotta do designing for Jaakari XL for Finnish military. I guess the only difference is what do you prefer, more pockets or one big bag? Oh and Varusteleka wanted to make more affordable version of Jaakari XL.
Great company response 👍👌😂😁
Savotta & Särmä 2 great quality Finnish products (like my school-days girlfriend Mia) Suomi, Sverige, Norge... they just make lots of good and sound outdoor equipment, and I use many (Särmä, Mora, Helly Hansen, Trangia, Marttiini, Primus, Helle, Gränsfors, Järvenpää, Optimus, Lundhags, etc, you name it)
Yer I live in the uk what do you think of the eather 70 ofspray ag they cost 200 pounds . We're I bought 1 I think they are a poor I'll thought out pack thay are so narrow you carnt pack well.
Hey could you do a comparison of this pack and the Savotta Jääkäri XL rucksack both look great
Went to a second hand army surplus and got almost the same pack 80 bucks.
People hit up army surplus stores if your fortunate enough to live near one.
I notice that in the videos showing you walking with the pack you have a pouch mounted across your sternum. Any info about that pouch?
How does this compare to the ILBE pack?
Which is more comfortable to carry?
Why doesn't it show up in more videos?
hello, first thanks a lot for your review!
Now If you were to compare the following two products, which would you recommend?
between the rp80 sarma and the savotta jakaari XL?
I thank you,
Raphael
Exelent backpack , amazing as well the explanation
Norrøna have two military backpacks used by the Norwegian special forces in decades: Recon synkroflex Pack and Recon para ranger synkron Pack. They are bigger and constructed for loads up to 75 kg. Also more expensive, but considered top notch.
Just curious but is that what they replaced the famous Ludwig rucksack with? Those old rucksacks probably had the longest service life out of any design with the exception of maybe the Russian veshmeshok.
I have a synkron 100, my main issue have been the adjustment straps that are too slippery so they glide and I have re-adjust and tighten them all the time. I don't know if it was because of that but my shoulders were killing me after a few days hiking.
I have the rp80 recon pack now and have had no issues and have been as comfortable as it gets carrying a heavy backpack.
What is the communications installation you're walking at 2:16?
Does the belt detach like it does on the Savotta XL? They seem very similar packs, but that detachable belt will decide which one I buy and seems worth the price difference if it doesn't come off on this model. Great video, even though I'm a couple of years late!
Sounds great, you think it would work for 7ft individual.
in terms of comfort, how does it compare to the Osprey Atmos AG 50?
You still like this pack a lot? I’m thinking of getting it but let me know if there is something better now. Thanks
damn, i love all the molle straps, the roll top, that thing is perfect...Only too much money lol
If I had that kinda cash to spend I would buy that based solely on your review Luke.
@TheOutdoorGearReview does this ruck connect to the mystery ranch NICE frame?
Great review
85 inches tall lol! I know what you meant man! Great video brother.
Looks like a good pack, I like it ^^
do ever review any eberlestock packs? the warhammer, specifically?? $299 / external frame / modular
Hey how does this backpack fair against Savotta Jaakari L model?
Both are good quality and made for heavy use. RP80 has better and sturdier frame and is for week long or longer trips. Jaakari L is designed for lighter use, from few days to one week trips. Jääkäri L is modern version of backpack used by Finnish border guard.
Im 6'3 have a broad build and 15 should i get this or will i be to big for it when i grow up dad 6'8 mom about 6
I have the Savotta Jääkäri XL, which is basically parent model for this one (just some small differences). It's the best thing a man can put on his back.
Hello, in terms of confort? Good?
I've got to use both these packs and I found the Jääkäri XL just a bit more better all round.
Hello friend!! Nice backpack and nice truck (I want see your truck in action)👍⛺
In the clip of you hiking with the pack, you had a chest pouch on...were you using that as a sort of sternum strap?