The Adam God Teaching: A Problem for Mormonism

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  • This video addresses the Adam God doctrine as taught by Brigham Young. Though the modern LDS church denies it, early prophets claimed to believe it by revelation of God.
    The manuscript of this video can be found here: admin.patheos.com/blogs/justan...

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  • @elderbroomhead2671
    @elderbroomhead2671 6 років тому +20

    Just yesterday, during a Sunday School session about another subject (the Book of Abraham), the instructor referred to "the prophet Brigham Young", verbatim, so apparently Brigham Young is STILL considered a prophet. Regardless of what he taught.

    • @jedimormon4536
      @jedimormon4536 6 років тому

      *" Eldeer Broomhead laments: Brigham Young is STILL considered a prophet. Regardless of what he taught."*
      Here's a news flash for you: Even prophets have a right to express a personal opinion.

    • @elderbroomhead2671
      @elderbroomhead2671 6 років тому +5

      And people can refute prophets, as Mormons did with Young's Adam-God doctrine. And they refute Doc Nelson today and his false teachings, as evidenced by the scores of people leaving the church. Especially this week, with the revelation that a sister missionary was raped in the MTC by the center's then-president. And the church, presided over by Doc Nelson as an apostle then and today as president, covered it all up.

  • @FKLinguista
    @FKLinguista 6 років тому +33

    Other than Thomas Monson's face appearing when you're talking about McKinley, this video is well-organized and helpful! Thanks, Pastor.

  • @eag11e
    @eag11e 4 роки тому +5

    So let's be clear.... then who is Elohim? Who is Jehova? And how did Adam turn into Michael the Arc Angel? inquiring minds need answers

  • @MrTrainREX
    @MrTrainREX 5 років тому +9

    5 Mormons disliked this video

    • @richardholmes7199
      @richardholmes7199 5 років тому +1

      Why would somebody support this dishonest video?

    • @longnamenocansayy
      @longnamenocansayy 5 років тому +1

      they shall be blood atoned for speaking ill of the lord's annointed

    • @longnamenocansayy
      @longnamenocansayy 5 років тому +1

      they shall be blood atoned for speaking ill of the lord's annointed

    • @robertallison107
      @robertallison107 Рік тому

      @@richardholmes7199 LMAO !! You wouldn't recognized the TRUTH if it bit you in the BUTT....

    • @davidjanbaz7728
      @davidjanbaz7728 Рік тому

      @@richardholmes7199 or your church! LOL 😆

  • @austinsmith3503
    @austinsmith3503 5 років тому +6

    My own grandpa who is Mormon his whole life said: "it doesn't matter what any prophets or apostles of Mormonism said because our religion believes the concept of modern revelation precept upon precept which changes constantly, which can contract past revelations in the future. " PLEASE STAY AWAY from this FALSE cult like strange and confusing Babylonian freemasonry modern day religion called the false church of Jesus Christ of latter day saints or else be rejected by God forever. God judges not joseph smith or any alleged prophet. They even have latter in their name biblically tying the end times together. Latter end time nation Babylon that gets destroyed by her(America) foreign enemies in one day(revelation 17 and 18 and throughout). Mormons talk about joseph smith more than Jesus himself.

    • @1031samw
      @1031samw 2 роки тому +1

      So true and yet God is supposed to be never changing his law is supposed to be never changing.
      Yet the church has changed so many laws and rules they've had I don't know how they still have the followers they have.

    • @candicebergemann5313
      @candicebergemann5313 2 роки тому

      My name is Adam Dies, and I'm the second coming, not Jesus.... I was born on August 12th 1983, conceived on December 25th 1982 by Patricia Ann Leach and
      Gary Phillip Dies.... you notice his initials are GPD... not GOD ad in he was gipped.... God added up is 26 like the alphabet, then you add the 2 and the 6 and get 8 like the symbol for infinite... however multiplied is 420 like hitlers birthday....
      GPD multiplied is 448 4+4×8.... infinite times infinite
      I've been married twice, first to
      A. l. e. x. i. s. Ehmke (M-key)
      1.+12+5.+24.+9+19 =70
      L. I. L. I. T. H
      12+9+12+9+ 20+8= 70
      My second wife and I had two children,
      Evelyn and Michael
      My second wife's name is
      candicE. Viola bErgemann
      E. V. E
      7th letter, first letter, second letter
      Added 10... 1+0=1... she was indeed the first mother...
      I know a lot if things, one especially you would be interested in. In revelations, the whole 144000 to be+ saved is actually a code.... I know the word that multiplies to 144000 and it is indeed significant if you+ want to pass the gates....
      You can reach me via text at 262 490 6051
      Or if you're lucky I might check my email for once, which is therealadamdies@yahoo.com
      Crazy... the Mormons almost had it right up until 1876 then a century later they abolished the whole doctrine....
      Well good day sir
      Truly yours
      Adam Phillip. Dies
      1+4+1+13=19. 16+8+9+12+12+9+16=73 4+9+5+19=37
      1+9=10. 7+3=10. 3+7=10
      1+0=1. 1+0=1. 1+0=1
      1. 1. 1

  • @timothyosborn637
    @timothyosborn637 6 років тому +7

    The Adam god theory is really interesting to study but you must study the whole discourse.

    • @Lutheranjenkins
      @Lutheranjenkins 3 роки тому

      Well, well, well. Look who we have here.

    • @justinl776
      @justinl776 2 роки тому

      Study it Where exactly

    • @ryanthemetalman7161
      @ryanthemetalman7161 5 місяців тому

      ​@@justinl776 there is plenty of info on it. Brigham Youngs Doctrine on deity is a great one to read on it.
      Drew Brineys Adam God is great to!

    • @jwinfrey6298
      @jwinfrey6298 3 місяці тому

      Being born 7th generation morman grandma had an extensive library. It was work back then to search out supposed anti morman literature. It was there along with all other supposed anti literature 1854 British periodical journal of discourses. It was also repeated 1 year later by the millennial star #48vol 15 November 26 1853. It is so easy to find this stuff now with computers. Most mormans like to conveniently remain lazy. Truth is a bitter pill for some to swallow

    • @ApartmentKing66
      @ApartmentKing66 Місяць тому

      Theory nothing. It was doctrine. Brigham Young taught it. And the church still tries to deny it.

  • @toddgiberson4330
    @toddgiberson4330 Місяць тому

    Another quote from Brigham Young as found in the Deseret News, June 18, 1873:
    Father Adam came here and helped to make the earth. Who is he? He is Michael, a great prince, and it was said to him by Eloheim, "Go ye and make an earth."
    Who is this "Father Adam" and who is Elohim that instructs Father Adam to make an earth?

  • @zon3665
    @zon3665 3 роки тому +1

    "That ye may be mindful of the words which were spoken before by the holy prophets, and of the commandments of us the apostles of the Lord and Saviour. Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers."
    2 Peter 3:2-3

    • @davidjanbaz7728
      @davidjanbaz7728 Рік тому

      And False Apostles& prophets!
      2 Corinthians 1 : 13-15.
      Matthew 7:15-23.

  • @theadventurousprogrammer6449
    @theadventurousprogrammer6449 6 років тому +6

    Great Video! One quick question dealing with part of this topic, do you believe anyone when they say they receive direct revelations from God during our time. I complete disagree with any person who says that that have received a revelation like Young. I generally would ask, why would God choose to reveal something to someone when we already have the direct word of God in the bible.. Thoughts?

    • @DrJordanBCooper
      @DrJordanBCooper  6 років тому +4

      +Soren Lundberg God has sufficiently revealed all doctrine we need to know in Scripture. We have no indication that anything will be revealed to us personally apart from that Word.

    • @theadventurousprogrammer6449
      @theadventurousprogrammer6449 6 років тому +1

      Jordan Cooper Right.. exactly what I can't communicate to other denominations who just want to make this all up on the fly!

    • @richardholmes7199
      @richardholmes7199 4 роки тому

      Jordan Cooper is not honest. The egyptologists were debunked. I informed him of this. He still will not update his anti-Book of Abraham video though. None of the anti-Mormons will update their anti-Book of Abraham videos.

    • @MichaelSmith-ng9gc
      @MichaelSmith-ng9gc 2 роки тому

      @@richardholmes7199 So are you saying it was wrote by the very hand of Abraham?

    • @richardholmes7199
      @richardholmes7199 2 роки тому

      @@MichaelSmith-ng9gc What do you mean?

  • @toddgiberson4330
    @toddgiberson4330 Місяць тому

    How does this quote square with your video?
    Journal of Discourses 13:311 -- Brigham Young in a sermon on April 17, 1870
    >
    Can you restate in your own words what this quote is saying?

  • @archangel_one
    @archangel_one 9 місяців тому +1

    1Co_15:22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.

  • @jameswoffinden9215
    @jameswoffinden9215 Місяць тому

    Wait a minute. An LDS friend of mine, who was a bishop, was explaining his belief in the Adam God concept to me back in around 1996. I was shocked by the whole thing, that this would be taught. So yeah, some of their teachings didn’t die out as quick as their apologists hoped. The LDS church is trying really hard to appear Christian. But a lot of their first teachings are rather embarrassing.

  • @valeriereneeharper
    @valeriereneeharper 3 роки тому +2

    So God who had multiple wives became a man and the result was not going back to his God exaltation but rather was demoted to an angel rather than God and this is our father/ancient of days? And what would the point be as a human man to work so hard to become a god one day if he too can become a man again and if he does one thing not exactly how it should be then when that man who was a god goes back to spirit he is demoted as angel forever when before he was a god and worked hard to be one just to mess it up and become an angel eternally ministering and nothing else. Ok.

    • @ryanthemetalman7161
      @ryanthemetalman7161 5 місяців тому

      No.
      "Adam" came here with "Eve" his wife in their already resurrected celestial bodies willingly They ate and partook of the foods of this earth until their bodies became mortal again. In this they were able to bring their spirit children down to earth so that they could have a chance to "pass their test" and become like them (Adam and eve). The only way you can create spirit children in the next life is if you agree to go back to an earth and start your family so that all your spirit children can have a chance to do what you did. Adam wasn't made of the dust of the earth. He was born of a woman on a different earth, he passed his test there with his wife and were resurrected to God and Goddess status and agreed to come back to an earth to start their children.
      They did not sin when doing this.
      The old testament is an anthropomorphized mythological account of things seen in the sky in ancient times. Much study and a willingness to learn many unfamiliar concepts is a key to having the spirit teach. Keeping to traditions keeps one closed off

  • @Mikangelovillalopez
    @Mikangelovillalopez 2 місяці тому

    I feel like you didn't talk about the adam god theroy at all. And who said the punishment for false prophet is punishable by death? That curve ball got me.

    • @magic00squirrel
      @magic00squirrel Місяць тому

      Deuteronomy 18:20 says that false prophets will die btw

  • @justinsekula4102
    @justinsekula4102 3 місяці тому

    So did Young just ignore the ENTIRE story of Adam and Eve? Like how God created the universe, then them, visited them as a seperate being, kicked them out of the Garden of Eden for transgressing His one rule for them, and they lived human lives and died.
    He just glossed over everything except the words "God, created, Adam, wife, and multiply".
    The mental gymnastics they had to go through with to come up with these ideas and convince people to believe it should be an Olympic sport.

  • @kentskoien7583
    @kentskoien7583 4 місяці тому

    It may be a problem for mormonism,whatever that is ? But it is not for the Church that Christ restored to the earth.

  • @davidkepler9994
    @davidkepler9994 2 місяці тому

    It really not a problem at all. Notes referring to youngs teachings are confusing and contradictory. Sometimes he talked out of his rear. Prophets are men learning like the rest of us.

    • @magic00squirrel
      @magic00squirrel Місяць тому

      I disagree. Prophets may be men, but regular men don't claim to speak for God. When someone is claiming to speak for God and that what they are saying has been revealed to them by the Holy Spirit they need to be held to the highest possible standard.

  • @thuggie1
    @thuggie1 Місяць тому

    The supposed Adam God idea was never actually lds church doctrine even at the time Young said it the rest of the first presidency, the twelve and the seventy said it was incorrect as it went against the standard works. I.E the Tanakh,New Testament, and even their Book of mormon. If you research the mormon religion properly, you find that if it's not in the Doctrine and covenants and the bible Book of mormon, it is not classed a cannon. Scripture is agreed on by conscious in mormonisum.

    • @ApartmentKing66
      @ApartmentKing66 Місяць тому

      "I have never yet preached a sermon and sent it out to the children of men, that they may not call scripture." --Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses Vol. 13 Pg. 95
      Deny it all you want, but Brigham taught the "Adam-God" DOCTRINE from the pulpit, and Bruce McConkie, to his credit, admitted it in 1981. And according to Brigham himself, if he taught it, it was SCRIPTURE. Now you're saying it was "never actually LDS church doctrine" which tells me that you're saying Brigham Young was NOT a prophet after all.
      "It's easier to fool someone than it is to convince them that they've been fooled." --Mark Twain

  • @joetaylor8687
    @joetaylor8687 Рік тому +3

    Bring 'em Young taught all kinds of wacky and goofy stuff, like people living on the sun, God having sex with Mary to beget Jesus, blood-atonement, etc., etc., etc. If any of these guys were really prophets, then at least ONE of their prophecies over the last nearly 200 years would have come to fruition. But they always makes excuses, rationalize, ignore, or whatever it takes to keep chanting "The Church is true!" "The Church is true!" "Mormonism" works best for those who don't think too much, don't ask too many questions, and don't do too much research.

    • @TheShodan92
      @TheShodan92 Рік тому

      Now the church has taken a leap away from the name "Mormon" , Russell Nelson threw Gordon Hinckley under the bus over the matter. Russ said the Lord is "offended" with the use of the term, and the use of the word Mormon is "a victory for satan". (NEMO the Mormon does an excellent video on this ua-cam.com/video/2lKQrYUE3yc/v-deo.html ).
      So.... apart of Russ inadvertently alluding to Jesus suffering the spiritual malady of allowing Himself to suddenly become offended, this situation obviously existed before Russ became president yet the god of Mormonism hadn't informed His previous church presidents of this issue until Russ took the throne.
      These and many more things make Mormonism very problematic. Of course they'll try telling you otherwise.

    • @ryanthemetalman7161
      @ryanthemetalman7161 5 місяців тому

      I disagree. I think many people just aren't open minded enough to let the spirit confirm to them that something is true. They don't want the pure, simple and naked truth, whatever it may be. Gotta keep to their traditions

  • @Spaseebo
    @Spaseebo 6 років тому +4

    In the Doctrine and Covenants of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, section 132 deals with POLYGAMY ~~~ and is STILL IN FORCE TODAY (at March 2018). The introduction reads:
    "Revelation given through Joseph Smith the Prophet, at Nauvoo, Illinois, recorded July 12, 1843, relating to the new and everlasting covenant, including the eternity of the marriage covenant and the principle of plural marriage. Although the revelation was recorded in 1843, evidence indicates that some of the principles involved in this revelation were known by the Prophet as early as 1831. See Official Declaration 1.
    1-6, Exaltation is gained through the new and everlasting covenant; 7-14, The terms and conditions of that covenant are set forth; 15-20, Celestial marriage and a continuation of the family unit enable men to become gods; 21-25, The strait and narrow way leads to eternal lives; 26-27, The law is given relative to blasphemy against the Holy Ghost; 28-39, Promises of eternal increase and exaltation are made to prophets and Saints in all ages; 40-47, Joseph Smith is given the power to bind and seal on earth and in heaven; 48-50, The Lord seals upon him his exaltation; 51-57, Emma Smith is counseled to be faithful and true; 58-66, Laws governing plural marriage are set forth.".
    Joseph Smith states:
    "For behold, I reveal unto you a new and an everlasting covenant; and if ye abide not that covenant, then are ye damned; for no one can reject this covenant and be permitted to enter into my glory.".
    Section 132 is still in force, not only teaching polygamy, but ordering it! Note that it is an "everlasting covenant", i.e. it lasts forever, cannot be cancelled. You can read Section 132 here:
    www.lds.org/scriptures/dc-testament/dc/132?lang=eng
    Brigham Young: "Now if any of you will deny the plurality of wives, and continue to do so, I promise that you will be damned." (Journal of Discourses, Vol. 3, p. 266).
    He also stated: "The only men who become Gods, even the Sons of God, are those who enter into polygamy." (Journal of Discourses, Vol. 11, page 269).
    How, then, can the Mormon church say that it does NOT approve of polygamy today?
    #

    • @foster4391
      @foster4391 5 років тому

      Seems you've never read Official Declaration 1 in the Doctrine and Covenants....
      "Official Declaration 1
      The Bible and the Book of Mormon teach that monogamy is God’s standard for marriage unless He declares otherwise (see 2 Samuel 12:7-8 and Jacob 2:27, 30). Following a revelation to Joseph Smith, the practice of plural marriage was instituted among Church members in the early 1840s (see section 132). From the 1860s to the 1880s, the United States government passed laws to make this religious practice illegal. These laws were eventually upheld by the U.S. Supreme Court. After receiving revelation, President Wilford Woodruff issued the following Manifesto, which was accepted by the Church as authoritative and binding on October 6, 1890. This led to the end of the practice of plural marriage in the Church.
      To Whom It May Concern:
      Press dispatches having been sent for political purposes, from Salt Lake City, which have been widely published, to the effect that the Utah Commission, in their recent report to the Secretary of the Interior, allege that plural marriages are still being solemnized and that forty or more such marriages have been contracted in Utah since last June or during the past year, also that in public discourses the leaders of the Church have taught, encouraged and urged the continuance of the practice of polygamy-
      I, therefore, as President of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, do hereby, in the most solemn manner, declare that these charges are false. We are not teaching polygamy or plural marriage, nor permitting any person to enter into its practice, and I deny that either forty or any other number of plural marriages have during that period been solemnized in our Temples or in any other place in the Territory.
      One case has been reported, in which the parties allege that the marriage was performed in the Endowment House, in Salt Lake City, in the Spring of 1889, but I have not been able to learn who performed the ceremony; whatever was done in this matter was without my knowledge. In consequence of this alleged occurrence the Endowment House was, by my instructions, taken down without delay.
      Inasmuch as laws have been enacted by Congress forbidding plural marriages, which laws have been pronounced constitutional by the court of last resort, I hereby declare my intention to submit to those laws, and to use my influence with the members of the Church over which I preside to have them do likewise.
      There is nothing in my teachings to the Church or in those of my associates, during the time specified, which can be reasonably construed to inculcate or encourage polygamy; and when any Elder of the Church has used language which appeared to convey any such teaching, he has been promptly reproved. And I now publicly declare that my advice to the Latter-day Saints is to refrain from contracting any marriage forbidden by the law of the land.
      Wilford Woodruff
      President of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints."
      It's pretty simple to understand. Your assumption about Section 132 being "still in force" is just flat-out false. It's also clear that you do not understand what you've read about "the new and everlasting covenant". Seems you've gleaned your information from anti-mormon sources instead of from careful reading of material you claim to know.

    • @theodorerobert6774
      @theodorerobert6774 Рік тому

      They just say it because they are liars and are fallen away from God. Joseph Smith and Brigham Young were true prophets of God. God intended for a man to have multiple wives even to sleep with 2 in his bed at night. 2 children conceived to different wives on the same night is considered a most high blessing, especially if each wife is there to witness the other.

    • @TheShodan92
      @TheShodan92 Рік тому +1

      @@foster4391 On the basis that the contemporary president of the church is permitted to throw any past president of the church under the bus would therefore validate your argument. Agreed?

    • @mgeuleinstsear
      @mgeuleinstsear 11 місяців тому +1

      @@TheShodan92Yep, they like to throw other prophet’s doctrines under the bus and just call it continued revelation.
      Makes God seems like a being that keeps changing his mind every few years 😵‍💫

  • @mr400meter
    @mr400meter 2 роки тому

    Honestly, when you look at Bruce R. McConkie’s “Mormon Doctrine” along with the book of Abraham you can conclude that Adam is Michael and is one of the “gods” spoken of in the book of Abraham.

    • @tbone450r
      @tbone450r 2 роки тому +1

      If you look at the veracity of the Book of Abraham you know it’s one of the “Bullshits” spread by Joe Smith

    • @richardholmes7199
      @richardholmes7199 2 роки тому

      @@tbone450r The Egyptologists were debunked by Paul Gregersen.

  • @MrMondodaka
    @MrMondodaka 3 місяці тому

    Makes sense if Adam was the first son and the word of God, originally good

  • @peterhook2258
    @peterhook2258 Рік тому

    interesting :)

  • @siilatacollins154
    @siilatacollins154 2 роки тому

    Some, left THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST, due to their extreme rebelliousness & ignorance, refused to repent from personal sin's, either, sodom? Babylon? Egypt?

    • @MichaelSmith-ng9gc
      @MichaelSmith-ng9gc 2 роки тому +1

      Sodom, Babylon and Egypt were never part of the church of Jesus Christ

  • @scottbrandon6244
    @scottbrandon6244 2 роки тому

    I never thought this Adam-God theory made a lot of sense. Brigham Young and three later presidents of the church taught it. It is no longer a doctrine. You can read the sermons on this topic in Journal of Discourses. Of course Brigham Young also banned blacks from getting the priesthood. Enough said.

  • @longnamenocansayy
    @longnamenocansayy 5 років тому +3

    D&C 27.11 is still in the mormon scriptures. they still believe adam is god. D&C 27.11 And also with Michael, or Adam, the father of all, the prince of all, the ancient of days;
    it's very clear joseph smith said michael is adam is the father of all the ancient of days. daniel in the bible called God the ancient of days. christians call God the father. michael=adam=God.
    when we go to the celestial kingdom we will become gods. we will have our own planet, and harems. we will procreate and become a god to all our babies. the first man on any planet is a god to all his spirit babies. adam is the first man on this planet and so he is our god.
    i have just quoted mormon scripture D&C 27. i have just explained in minute detail the logic used by joseph smith and brigham young to explain the adam god theory.
    you can also google lds.org and find the following: Michael is Adam, D&C 27:11 (D&C 107:53-57; 128:21)
    mormons still believe adam is god, polygamy is neccessary for godhood, you can become a god, blood atonement (blood of righteous jesus does not atone for all sins. some sins the person has to shed his own blood for) book of mormon was translated by the gift and power of a rock in the hat.
    by the way, the dedication ceremony at mountain meadows where the mormons opened the ceremony with the song, we thank thee o god for a prophet was really priceless. no need to give the dead bodies of the people you murdered back to their relatives. for the mormons it's "we bagged 'em we keep ''em.

    • @gustavmahler1466
      @gustavmahler1466 4 роки тому

      Jesus was the first Adam and the last Adam Revelation 1:17 1 Corinthians 15:45

  • @brettduffy1992
    @brettduffy1992 Рік тому

    The Bible does prohibit interracial relationships the Israelites were not allowed to marry gentiles

    • @KathyStrickland-nh9vx
      @KathyStrickland-nh9vx 3 місяці тому

      Moses married an Ethiopian woman that was black. Study your Bible.

  • @exbronco1980
    @exbronco1980 5 років тому +3

    Joseph Smith had bad hair.

  • @fayelewis5476
    @fayelewis5476 5 років тому +5

    I am glad LDS is false.

    • @itamarjamar4383
      @itamarjamar4383 9 місяців тому

      Why are you glad? Did you win money from a bet or something? It’s like those who say “ I’m glad Jesus is false”. What did the LDS done to you 😂

  • @StevenRetz
    @StevenRetz 5 років тому +9

    Alma 18:36 Now when Ammon had said these words, he began at the CREATION OF THE WORLD, and also the CREATION OF ADAM, and told him all the things concerning the fall of man, and rehearsed and laid before him the records and the holy scriptures of the people, which had been spoken by the prophets, even down to the time that their father, Lehi, left Jerusalem.
    Mormon 9:12 Behold, he [God] created Adam, and by Adam came the fall of man. And because of the fall of man came Jesus Christ, even the Father and the Son; and because of Jesus Christ came the redemption of man.
    Moroni 10:3 Behold, I would exhort you that when ye shall read these things, if it be wisdom in God that ye should read them, that ye would remember how merciful the Lord hath been unto the children of men, from the CREATION OF ADAM even down until the time that ye shall receive these things, and ponder it in your hearts.

    • @tbone450r
      @tbone450r 2 роки тому +5

      Further proof Young was wrong and straying from the script

    • @candicebergemann5313
      @candicebergemann5313 2 роки тому

      My name is Adam Dies, and I'm the second coming, not Jesus.... I was born on August 12th 1983, conceived on December 25th 1982 by Patricia Ann Leach and
      Gary Phillip Dies.... you notice his initials are GPD... not GOD ad in he was gipped.... God added up is 26 like the alphabet, then you add the 2 and the 6 and get 8 like the symbol for infinite... however multiplied is 420 like hitlers birthday....
      GPD multiplied is 448 4+4×8.... infinite times infinite
      I've been married twice, first to
      A. l. e. x. i. s. Ehmke (M-key)
      1.+12+5.+24.+9+19 =70
      L. I. L. I. T. H
      12+9+12+9+ 20+8= 70
      My second wife and I had two children,
      Evelyn and Michael
      My second wife's name is
      candicE. Viola bErgemann
      E. V. E
      7th letter, first letter, second letter
      Added 10... 1+0=1... she was indeed the first mother...
      I know a lot if things, one especially you would be interested in. In revelations, the whole 144000 to be+ saved is actually a code.... I know the word that multiplies to 144000 and it is indeed significant if you+ want to pass the gates....
      You can reach me via text at 262 490 6051
      Or if you're lucky I might check my email for once, which is therealadamdies@yahoo.com
      Crazy... the Mormons almost had it right up until 1876 then a century later they abolished the whole doctrine....
      Well good day sir
      Truly yours
      Adam Phillip. Dies
      1+4+1+13=19. 16+8+9+12+12+9+16=73 4+9+5+19=37
      1+9=10. 7+3=10. 3+7=10
      1+0=1. 1+0=1. 1+0=1
      1. 1. 1

    • @ryanthemetalman7161
      @ryanthemetalman7161 5 місяців тому

      There are many Gods and many Lords.
      You have to understand the order of the gods to understand the Adam god doctrine. There isn't just 1 God over all things. Our Father has a Father and his Father has a Father so on infinitum.
      Even the word "eloheim" means "god(s)" plural. Though the eloheim and El were just 3 planets that sat very close to earth in ancient times. The old testament is basically an anthropomorphized mythological account of those planets/eloheim.
      One of the saddest things about the majority of christendom is that most of them think that El or Yahweh is our God. It's sad. Our Heavenly Father/God is an exalted man. Not a planet

    • @StevenRetz
      @StevenRetz 5 місяців тому

      @@ryanthemetalman7161 Elohim is a majestic plural showing His authority over all.

    • @ryanthemetalman7161
      @ryanthemetalman7161 5 місяців тому

      @@StevenRetz Elohim means Gods. Not God. El means God. But El is the planet Saturn. Saturn ruled over the other Gods in the sky in ancient times.
      It is not talking about Heavenly Father.

  • @derektilley669
    @derektilley669 Рік тому

    Don’t care if he taught that a potato was god, it’s all equally silly

  • @miketedrow4989
    @miketedrow4989 Рік тому

    “Young taught…. “ You said a bunch of stuff with zero reference… where did you get that? “The famous out quote is …” never did you say where it was quoted from.
    You gave zero actual references
    Very weak, why not promote your own faith rather than tearing down someone else’s.

  • @michaelparks5669
    @michaelparks5669 2 місяці тому

    Adam is a God according to Young.

  • @rccarter7576
    @rccarter7576 5 років тому +3

    When it comes to religion, NO ONE has the right to claim authority to describe the true character and identity of God except for what seems to be the silence of God himself. All the nonsense blowing around the internet accusing the LDS faith of being problematic only suggests its accusors are more problematic with less mental aptitude. SINCE Jesus, all men of every persuasion have, by scavaging through the scriptures, given themselves license to describe the true character and nature of God, not just Brigham Young.

    • @davidjanbaz7728
      @davidjanbaz7728 Рік тому

      LOL 😆CALLING yourself a prophet of God are the lies of ALL Mormon prophets!

  • @siilatacollins154
    @siilatacollins154 2 роки тому

    CHRIST is not JESUS last name, CHRIST is HIS (title;) CHRIST means ANOINTED, the past participle of the verb ANOINT. HEAVENLY FATHER, in the presence of HEAVENLY MOTHER, ANOINTED JESUS to do the creation.

  • @enigmaticvaran6597
    @enigmaticvaran6597 4 роки тому +2

    I don't appreciate how you base the credentials of your argument on the Bible, a book written in the Bronze Age by people who believed the world was flat, is riddled with unsupported superstitious claims, and condones immoral behavior.
    But other than that, this video is very informative and helpful for providing arguments against the Mormon Church's legitimacy and I would like to see more videos like this so long as you omit your own religious agenda.

  • @siilatacollins154
    @siilatacollins154 2 роки тому

    Prophet YOUNG is right, Prophet ADAM is GOD too. Why? because Prophet ADAM was created by the image & likeness of, HEAVENLY FATHER & HEAVENLY MOTHER. ADAM & EVE wasn't created by any other image & likeness, but the image & likeness of our HEAVENLY PARENT'S.

  • @billyhw5492
    @billyhw5492 3 роки тому +2

    You can thank Martin Luther for Joseph Smith and Brigham Young.

  • @siilatacollins154
    @siilatacollins154 2 роки тому

    Also, GOD the FATHER, ANOINTED JESUS to create the universe. See, many people are confused, because the Holy Bible has been corrupted, But not the whole Bible, so much contradictions in the Bible.

    • @MichaelSmith-ng9gc
      @MichaelSmith-ng9gc 2 роки тому

      God said he would preserve His word, and He did. Do you know that we have somewhere in the neighborhood 5700 pieces and manuscripts of the New Testament in its original language?

    • @MichaelSmith-ng9gc
      @MichaelSmith-ng9gc 2 роки тому

      And Joseph's King Follett sermon is in direct contradiction to the BoM. I would say the BoM is pretty monotheistic where as the KFS teaches polytheism

    • @siilatacollins154
      @siilatacollins154 2 роки тому

      Some of these Swine's, & their extreme ignorance & (*rebelliousness,*) r the one's who JESUS warned us member's of HIS CHURCH, not to cast Pearl's to.

    • @MichaelSmith-ng9gc
      @MichaelSmith-ng9gc 2 роки тому +1

      @@siilatacollins154 Wow dude, more name calling? Why are you on an "anti-mormon" video anyway? You leave all these comments and expect everyone to bow down to WSC's point of view? Let's not have a discussion or anything. Let's attack a person's character, of whom you have never met, and call them names. That's a lot more progressive. There's a difference between pointing to different fact and discussion them, on both sides. OR just hurl more personal attacks, it's whatevs

  • @k9l9b17
    @k9l9b17 4 роки тому +2

    If you really want to know what's true look at arguments from both sides, this is an argument against the church, you should look at what the church actually says about this and then make your judgments.

    • @Mygoalwogel
      @Mygoalwogel 4 роки тому +2

      1.Mormons prophets have publicly taught Non-white skinis the curse of Cain.
      2. In his _Journal of discourses_, Brigham Young taught that non-whites are lower and less intelligent.
      3. Joseph Fielding Smith wrote that non-whites are inferior in _The Way to Perfection_.
      4. Brigham Young taught that interracial marriage is a violation of the Law of God and that this will always be so.
      5. George Albert Smith and Mark E. Peterson taught that interracial marriage is contrary to church doctrine and curses the children of such a marriage.
      6. Non-whites were banned from priesthood and temple ceremonies until 1978.
      7. II Nephi Ch 5, v21 teaches that non-white skin is a curse.
      8. Recent official recantation of 180 years of evil teaching proves that the "restoration" is false.
      ua-cam.com/video/hZIptfaNWO8/v-deo.html

  • @warhammerwikipedia
    @warhammerwikipedia 4 роки тому

    Where are these quotes coming from. Please sight your sources. It’s a interesting concept, but modern leaders have said the concept of the Adam God Theory is a damnable offense. I have read much of Brigham Young’s works, and I have never stumbled across any quote. Including (if you truly are a scholar and know about Mormons) our temple ordaninces, which we’re on the earth and practiced by members at the time of Brigham Young that directly go against this teaching. Speculation and lying, along with manipulation of facts without stating sources on official documents is the same as saying Martin Luther King Jr., despite doing so many good works, OBVIOUSLY cheated and beat his kids. This came from many different sources that hated him, but from official documents non of these are proven. By his fruits he shall know him, me believing he was an amazing man I do not take info unless directly quoted because of so many looking to lie. Please sight the sources and prove me wrong

    • @Mygoalwogel
      @Mygoalwogel 4 роки тому +1

      1.Mormons prophets have publicly taught Non-white skinis the curse of Cain.
      2. In his _Journal of discourses_, Brigham Young taught that non-whites are lower and less intelligent.
      3. Joseph Fielding Smith wrote that non-whites are inferior in _The Way to Perfection_.
      4. Brigham Young taught that interracial marriage is a violation of the Law of God and that this will always be so.
      5. George Albert Smith and Mark E. Peterson taught that interracial marriage is contrary to church doctrine and curses the children of such a marriage.
      6. Non-whites were banned from priesthood and temple ceremonies until 1978.
      7. II Nephi Ch 5, v21 teaches that non-white skin is a curse.
      8. Recent official recantation of 180 years of evil teaching proves that the "restoration" is false.
      ua-cam.com/video/hZIptfaNWO8/v-deo.html

    • @ryanthemetalman7161
      @ryanthemetalman7161 5 місяців тому

      Trust me, Joseph taught this to Brigham. Brigham is the one that brought it to the church. He taught it in general conferences. Many other leaders believed it and had a testimony if tge doctrine. Not until later have most of the leaders thrown it out. Its sad.
      There is plenty of good info on it. Brigham Youngs Doctrine on deity is a great read. Drew Brineys book "Adam god" is another great one. Many many quotes and historical accounts on it are in his book. It is a great and grand doctrine to learn by the spirit. If you do the hardest thing that will happen for you is that you will learn that even prophets and apostles are just men like all other men. If they think they know more than the spirit than why would the spirit teach these concepts to them. You have to want the pure, simple and naked truth on any matter to learn the truth of all things. Instead, people stick to their traditions.

  • @kevinmichaelbergman8276
    @kevinmichaelbergman8276 2 роки тому

    Wrong Adam was God till 2017 when he was Destroyed by the Ghost and I was Elected God by the Ghost and our Ansestors I am Obsu God of the Universe Elected by our Ansestors and the Ghost.

  • @sammy2tone23
    @sammy2tone23 3 роки тому +2

    Thank you so much for making this video I have been investigating the Mormon church and after watching this video it is helped to build my testimony so much that it is the true church thank you

    • @hollayevladimiroff131
      @hollayevladimiroff131 2 роки тому +11

      The true church of lies!!

    • @sammy2tone23
      @sammy2tone23 2 роки тому

      @@hollayevladimiroff131 there's
      A man going round taking names and he says who to free and who to blame

    • @truth.speaker
      @truth.speaker 2 роки тому +1

      Any religion that teaches that God has lust and has sex with his wives has drifted so far from the path that it's disgusting.
      God never had physical relations with any of his children. Mary was not the object of God's lust. The Mormon church has, of course, taught that God laid down with Mary to produce Jesus. The problem is that this makes him a disgusting God who would lust after his own progeny. This is blasphemy on one of the highest levels.

    • @sammy2tone23
      @sammy2tone23 2 роки тому

      @@truth.speaker first it I had sex it made me believe in God sex is beautiful 😍. God does not lust only man. You probably only have prevented sex so you don't get it.

    • @truth.speaker
      @truth.speaker 2 роки тому +6

      @@sammy2tone23 I don't know who you are, but what you wrote is unclear

  • @k9l9b17
    @k9l9b17 4 роки тому

    The quote on the Adam God doctrine is taken out of context, likely there was an interjection leading to the response " He is our Father and Our God"

    • @k9l9b17
      @k9l9b17 4 роки тому

      Although I'm young and have more studying to do so can't say this is fact, just opinion.

    • @Mygoalwogel
      @Mygoalwogel 4 роки тому +1

      1.Mormons prophets have publicly taught Non-white skinis the curse of Cain.
      2. In his _Journal of discourses_, Brigham Young taught that non-whites are lower and less intelligent.
      3. Joseph Fielding Smith wrote that non-whites are inferior in _The Way to Perfection_.
      4. Brigham Young taught that interracial marriage is a violation of the Law of God and that this will always be so.
      5. George Albert Smith and Mark E. Peterson taught that interracial marriage is contrary to church doctrine and curses the children of such a marriage.
      6. Non-whites were banned from priesthood and temple ceremonies until 1978.
      7. II Nephi Ch 5, v21 teaches that non-white skin is a curse.
      8. Recent official recantation of 180 years of evil teaching proves that the "restoration" is false.
      ua-cam.com/video/hZIptfaNWO8/v-deo.html

  • @siilatacollins154
    @siilatacollins154 2 роки тому

    I forever thank, HEAVENLY FATHER & BELOVED HOLY HEAVENLY MOTHER, for restoring the TRUE CHURCH, THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST back on Earth.

  • @richardsaintjohn8391
    @richardsaintjohn8391 2 роки тому

    Pointless. The whole story is totally BS from the beginning. J Smith.

  • @siilatacollins154
    @siilatacollins154 2 роки тому

    GOD the FATHER, set JESUS apart, ANOINTED HIM as our SAVIOR, in the PRE MORTAL LIFE, in the presence of HEAVENLY MOTHER, & us all.

  • @siilatacollins154
    @siilatacollins154 2 роки тому +1

    I see the extreme deception, seductive, hatred, bitterness-misery ignorance rebelliousness, of some people, against THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST,

  • @heberfrank8664
    @heberfrank8664 4 роки тому +2

    The "Adam-God" doctrine is the same doctrine found in Romans 8:16-17
    It is the doctrine that not only the Savior will reign over creation with the Father, but also other sons of God.
    The Holy Ghost is the perfect example of this. He is a "child and heir of God", a "joint-heir with
    Christ", and is being "glorified together" with Christ. He is not the Only Begotten Son of the "Most High God",
    but he is still God.
    16 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:
    17 And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with
    Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also
    glorified together.
    --Romans 8
    To understand this, one cannot accept the totally unBiblical philosophical idea that "God" is an immaterial, inconceivable, essences without body, passions or parts. The Bible defines words by the way it uses them. The best definition of "God" in the Bible is that the man Jesus was the Son of God. From this we know that the Father of Jesus is a being like His very own Son.

  • @qhhtpractitionerapostlemat8106
    @qhhtpractitionerapostlemat8106 2 роки тому

    It’s not a problem what it is a difference of knowing the truth and not knowing the truth. BY knew that truth.

  • @abseconPC
    @abseconPC 2 роки тому

    Blood atonement is very important especially if someone commits a sin that the blood of Christ cannot cover the only way they can be forgiven for that sin is it their own blood is shed

  • @siilatacollins154
    @siilatacollins154 2 роки тому

    Thank HEAVENLY FATHER & BELOVED HOLY HEAVENLY MOTHER, for the Restoration of the TRUE CHURCH, THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER DAY SAINTS, back on Earth. Some, kept trying to prove the CHURCH wrong, they can't leave the CHURCH alone.

    • @TheShodan92
      @TheShodan92 Рік тому

      That statement : "They can't leave the church alone", is the typical tripe spilled over YT in a hope anyone who posts facts regarding the problematic truth claims etc would cease posting and commenting. If your so called testimony or belief in Mormonism was secure then there would be no need to make the "can't leave the church alone" statement.

  • @k9l9b17
    @k9l9b17 4 роки тому

    Brigham did not actually teach the Adam God doctrine, a simple understanding of the discourse allows us to know. In fact it was known that his words would be construed that's why the discourses are not considered doctrine themselves but rather many of the principles within them testify of truth.

    • @TheShodan92
      @TheShodan92 Рік тому

      Yes he did. BY taught the Adam/God doctrine and even preached it in General Conference.

  • @cdowis
    @cdowis 5 років тому +1

    Adam God theory is not found in the scriptures, it is rejected by the church, Brigham Young never said that he received a revelation on this subject. Some people are troubled over some of the statements of Paul regarding women as well as marriage -- but most have just moved on.
    We do not believe it; But as an enemy of the church, the antiMormons bring up this subject to their own disgrace.

    • @dr.ambiguous4913
      @dr.ambiguous4913 5 років тому +3

      As an ex-mormon, i suggest you analyse your scriptures closely. I am not an “enemy” of the church nor do i despise it, in some sense i remember it fondly as a time when things were more innocent, but i cannot bring myself to believe in it. Nobody should just believe without evidence, and i don’t think it’s particularly healthy to teach kids things like this. Scientific and historical evidence disproves the book of mormon/the bible.

    • @cdowis
      @cdowis 5 років тому

      @@dr.ambiguous4913

    • @dr.ambiguous4913
      @dr.ambiguous4913 5 років тому +3

      cdowis I was in the church too man, i read the bible and the book of mormon. So i’m not exactly unaware am i?
      There’s a lot of problems with the scriptures. Contradictions, scientific errors, etc. Have you read the old testament in hebrew? I was curious so i decided to investigate the scriptures in the languages they were written in. They helped me make sense of scripture that didn’t seem to fit together beforehand. The earth is described as flat and the firmament is clearly meant to be a solid dome. In the new testament the events surrounding jesus’s death change from gospel to gospel, etc. I could go on.

    • @cdowis
      @cdowis 5 років тому

      @@dr.ambiguous4913

    • @dr.ambiguous4913
      @dr.ambiguous4913 5 років тому +3

      cdowis I actually have been studying quantum mechanics actually, funny you say that. I love physics, i’m interested in general relativity too and have been studying it as well. Nothing i’ve seen indicates anything to do with a god. So i’m not sure what you’re talking about. It’s a theory about the non-deterministic nature of particle physics, how the wave function gives the probability amplitude for a particles position, and leads to questions about the nature of reality itself (particles being in multiple places at once, the measurement problem, etc). It allows physicists to accurately describe atomic phenomena.
      “Normal” Quantum Mechanics uses formalisms like Schrodinger’s wave mechanics (where the wave function is solved for using the schrodinger equation) or matrix mechanics (which in all honesty i can’t say i know too much of).
      They’re really just approximations though, as the schrodinger equation is not made for particles traveling at relativistic speeds. For that you need something like the dirac equation. And further from that there’s quantum field theory which for now mostly goes over my head.
      Now that i’ve described what Quantum Mechanics actually is, i still don’t see what it has to do with a god. I’d say i know more about relativity than QM but this still suffices and is an active area of learning for me.

  • @franklebatista1091
    @franklebatista1091 4 роки тому +3

    To many Critics (I not mormon) I see a lot of Christian hypocrisy. Because most of our denominations were formed with men that had diferentes ideas and came from diferentes religous backgrounds on the 18 century. Those men were brought to the light of the gospel of Jesuschirst and they still needed to be polish. They gave their own opinions or some extra explanation . They joined our churches Baptist, methodists , Mormons you named it. But I see this so logic that they needed still go through that process of leaving behind their thoughts as we had too. So in other words should be all of the people who came after him or her be blame for it? Or should they have the same opinion? not necessarily!

  • @siilatacollins154
    @siilatacollins154 2 роки тому

    This man & his video, is perfectly revealing his extreme ignorance & rebelliousness against THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST. They can't leave, the CHURCH alone.

    • @MichaelSmith-ng9gc
      @MichaelSmith-ng9gc 2 роки тому +1

      Man you have it out for this guy, what's wrong with his video? Is he not allowed to have a point of view?

  • @sebastiaanhoftijzer5336
    @sebastiaanhoftijzer5336 5 років тому +5

    I don't know what to think of Mormonism but if Jesus is God then the redeemed Adam must also be God.

    • @tdubs5128
      @tdubs5128 5 років тому +5

      How exactly does that make Adam God?

    • @gustavmahler1466
      @gustavmahler1466 4 роки тому

      @@tdubs5128 Jesus is the first Adam and the last Adam

    • @tdubs5128
      @tdubs5128 4 роки тому +2

      @@gustavmahler1466 lol, you can't be serious

    • @gustavmahler1466
      @gustavmahler1466 4 роки тому

      @@tdubs5128 Jesus is the first and the last Revelation 1:17 KJV Jesus is the first man Adam and the last Adam 1 Corinthians 15:45 KJV

    • @tdubs5128
      @tdubs5128 4 роки тому

      @@gustavmahler1466 Paul is here pointing out the difference between two kinds of bodies, i.e., the natural and the spiritual. Genesis 2:7 speaks of the first man, Adam, becoming a living person. Adam was made from the dust of the ground and given the breath of life from God. Every human being since that time shares the same characteristics. However, the last Adam or the “second Adam”-that is, Christ-is a life-giving Spirit. Just as Adam was the first of the human race, so Christ is the first of those who will be raised from the dead to eternal life. Because Christ rose from the dead, He is “a life-giving spirit” who entered into a new form of existence. He is the source of the spiritual life that will result in believers' resurrection. Christ's new glorified human body now suits His new, glorified, spiritual life-just as Adam's human body was suitable to his natural life. When believers are resurrected, God will give them transformed, eternal bodies suited to eternal life.
      Paul tells us in verse 46 that the natural came first and after that the spiritual. People have natural life first; that is, they are born into this earth and live here. Only from there do they then obtain spiritual life. Paul is telling us that the natural man, Adam, came first on this earth and was made from the dust of the earth. While it is true that Christ has existed from eternity past, He is here called the second man or second Adam because He came from heaven to earth many years after Adam. Christ came as a human baby with a body like all other humans, but He did not originate from the dust of the earth as had Adam. He “came from heaven.”

  • @siilatacollins154
    @siilatacollins154 2 роки тому

    PRE MORTAL COUNCIL in the Heaven's, GOD the FATHER anointed JESUS, to be the SAVIOR in the presence of our HEAVENLY MOTHER, due to JESUS'S obedient concerning the plan of salvation.

  • @jedimormon4536
    @jedimormon4536 6 років тому +4

    *This video addresses the Adam God doctrine...*
    Just hold your horses now. "Adam God" is not, and never has been, official doctrine of the church. Pastor Jordan needs to do some honest research into Mormonism before he posts accusations like that. Nothing against him, but he makes the same mistake as other anti-Mormonism types make: he doesn't verify that his information is correct before posting it. And - no slam on him - he obviously does not know what constitutes official LDS doctrine and what does not. That information can be found here:
    www.mormonnewsroom.org/article/approaching-mormon-doctrine

    • @tdubs5128
      @tdubs5128 5 років тому +10

      Are you aware that Brigham Young taught this for 25 years? Also it was part of what they called a lecture at the veil in the St Goerge temple until 1904.

    • @eag11e
      @eag11e 4 роки тому +3

      Brother Brigham taught this! He also endorsed the "Journal of Discourses". Brigham stated that he was a prophet and that what came out of his mouth should be considered scripture. You can read about his men on the Moon and Sun in the JOD. The problem for you is that since you believe in many Gods, and you may even become one. You believe in Polytheism. (More than one God). While all other Christian churches believe in One God. this is called Monotheism. This is why no other Christian church recognizes mormons as Christians. Besides the Polygamy this is another big nail in the coffin of mormonism.

  • @siilatacollins154
    @siilatacollins154 2 роки тому

    Again, some kept trying to prove the TRUE CHURCH wrong, they can't leave the CHURCH alone. The only TRUE CHURCH, THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER DAY SAINTS.

  • @godsoffspring4195
    @godsoffspring4195 5 років тому +1

    The Adam/God teaching is no problem at all for the LDS faith because Adam is GOD. What Adam is not..... nor has ever been doctrine...… is that Adam is Eloi(God) the Father of spirits.
    Get your facts straight.

  • @jamesbaldwin7676
    @jamesbaldwin7676 Рік тому

    Brigham Young was just giving insights into the eternal and devine natures in all of us. We are after all, children of God and therefore eternal and devine in nature (or at least potentially so.) Our mortal lives here on earth, are but a brief moment away from our Eternal Father in Heaven and our eternal home.
    Who can say then, what are pre-existence was like before this life? Who can say who found favor with the Father before he was born?
    Certainly Adam and Eve must have been very special indeed to have been chosen to bear the mortal bodies of all mankind?
    Was Adam a god in the pre-existence? I don't know but He was certainly a son of God and so was I. "Ye are gods." (John 10:34)
    This is not blasphemy but the truth of who we really are.
    Adam was (and remains) the mortal father of all mankind, with all the honor, glory and esteem, associated with that. And that's all Brigham Young was trying to teach.

    • @TheShodan92
      @TheShodan92 Рік тому

      Not so... BY taught the Adam/God doctrine and he even preached it in General Conference. Attempting to sanitize church history has always been a problem for apologists.

    • @jamesbaldwin7676
      @jamesbaldwin7676 Рік тому

      @@TheShodan92 I stand by my original comment...the Adam/god teachings of Brigham Young are complex and related to the eternal nature of all of us and some of us "as gods" (even before we were born.) This concept is not without some biblical support or interpretation. The statements of Brigham Young are all taken out of context and without regard to the "when or why" they were made. The 21st Century LDS Church, correctly labels them as "the teachings of Brigham Young" and not revelations. The same applies for many of the words of Joseph Smith.
      And a quick Wikipedia review, does not count as a "serious study."

    • @TheShodan92
      @TheShodan92 Рік тому

      @jamesbaldwin7676 "Out of context", or, "complex". Before the sharing of information globally it used to be called, " anti Mormon lies", until it reached a point that it couldn't be denied. However, it's still denied in a different fashion, such as being "complex", or, "out of context".
      I consider it a miracle that seemingly intelligent people can continually accept and justify what has been taught by Brigham Young that is false doctrine, but insist on a subjective position in order to esteem him as a prophet of God.
      Grant Palmer, also Sandra and Jerald Tanner were right.
      Mormonism has their own type of Jesus. Not the real one of the New Testament.

    • @TheShodan92
      @TheShodan92 Рік тому

      @jamesbaldwin7676 An example of calling something anti Mormon lies which turned out to be true, was in the 80s when Dalin Oakes was giving instruction to a group of missionaries prior to going out on their missions. One sister stated that when the subject of Joseph Smith using a peepstone in a hat was bought up Oakes informed the missionaries that it was "anti Mormon lies ". Fast forward years later and his words come back to smack him on the backside. Irrefutable proof had the church cornered into admitting the peepstone story to be true.
      Layer upon layer of problematic issues such as this is of no wonder why membership numbers in Mormonism is hemorrhaging.

    • @jamesbaldwin7676
      @jamesbaldwin7676 Рік тому

      @@TheShodan92 What exactly are you referring to (as if I didn't know.) All you'd be bringing up, are individual quotes taken from here and there. But I've read and studied Brigham Young's full sermons and. I think I see and understand his viewpoint. I also understand his history, background and time/frame. That doesn't mean I have to agree with him on every point, nor does it make him less of a man or a prophet in my estimation. The things he said (I understand) are well beyond your understanding and so you resort to criticism and anti-Mormon rhetoric. These things however, were never meant for your ears. So get off your high horse and try taking a walk in another man's shoes.

  • @siilatacollins154
    @siilatacollins154 2 роки тому

    Some, are extremely ignorant & rebellious; Life didn't start at conception or birth. They don't know nothing about JESUS CHRIST; They keep revealing their extreme rebelliousness & ignorance.

  • @siilatacollins154
    @siilatacollins154 2 роки тому

    Again, some left THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST, because they refused to repent from their personal sin's of, sodom & gumorrah, Babylon & Egypt.

    • @MichaelSmith-ng9gc
      @MichaelSmith-ng9gc 2 роки тому +1

      And again, they were not part of THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST

  • @siilatacollins154
    @siilatacollins154 2 роки тому

    HEAVENLY FATHER set JESUS apart, anointed HIM in the presence of HEAVENLY MOTHER, SATAN & us all in PRE MORTAL LIFE, with Melchizedek Priesthood, to do creations.

  • @siilatacollins154
    @siilatacollins154 2 роки тому

    JESUS spoke this language, using these terms, rebuking them by saying Swine's & Snake's, to ignorant & rebellious people who r against HIS CHURCH.

    • @MichaelSmith-ng9gc
      @MichaelSmith-ng9gc 2 роки тому +2

      Where does He use that language? In the Bible? Didn't you say that Bible was corrupt?

  • @siilatacollins154
    @siilatacollins154 2 роки тому

    JESUS warned us members of HIS CHURCH, do not cast Pearl's before Swine's, Dog's, be fully aware of Snake's.

    • @TheShodan92
      @TheShodan92 Рік тому

      You've had far too much Kool Aid.

  • @siilatacollins154
    @siilatacollins154 2 роки тому

    Can't leave the TRUE CHURCH alone. Prophet YOUNG said ADAM is GOD, when the script mentioned GOD the FATHER, it's including HEAVENLY MOTHER, THEY'RE ONE in PURPOSE imagine & likeness, ADAM was created. SO, ADAM is GOD too.

    • @MichaelSmith-ng9gc
      @MichaelSmith-ng9gc 2 роки тому

      Adam was created so that means he is God?

    • @siilatacollins154
      @siilatacollins154 2 роки тому

      @@MichaelSmith-ng9gc Adam is GOD and Eve is GODDESS, because they were created in the IMAGE and LIKENESS of GOD the FATHER and GODDESS the MOTHER. So, all MEN are GOD'S and women are GODDESS'S.

    • @siilatacollins154
      @siilatacollins154 2 роки тому

      @@MichaelSmith-ng9gc Ask yourself this question, what IMAGE and LIKENESS we were created? Is it an IMAGE and LIKENESS of our HEAVENLY PARENT'S? or no? Another question, what IMAGE and LIKENESS you and your siblings were created? See, when we mention only GOD the FATHER, it's including our BELOVED HOLY GODDESS MOTHER, why? because our HEAVENLY FATHER and our BELOVED HOLY HEAVENLY MOTHER are ONE in PURPOSE.

    • @MichaelSmith-ng9gc
      @MichaelSmith-ng9gc 2 роки тому +2

      @@siilatacollins154 Doesn't the church go to great lengths to disavow that theory?

    • @siilatacollins154
      @siilatacollins154 2 роки тому

      @@MichaelSmith-ng9gc All your comments, keep revealing your restless soul, deceit, confuse, SATAN continue to play with you until that day comes, that you will be surprised that you will end up in a situation, you will regret it for the rest of your life. Our HEAVENLY PARENT'S restored THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST back on Earth through our BELOVED PROPHET and BROTHER JOSEPH SMITH.

  • @lindamartinez7006
    @lindamartinez7006 3 роки тому

    See how ridiculous this is getting . Brigham young dud not teach these things but was so misquoted .

  • @Haydenpetty1488
    @Haydenpetty1488 8 місяців тому

    It's not a problem it's a doctrine that makes perfect sense when you actually study it and understand a dynamic changing godhead

  • @siilatacollins154
    @siilatacollins154 2 роки тому

    Some of these (*deceiful,*) (*hateful,*) (*comments*) (*against*) THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST, is a sure sign of extreme (*ignorance*) & (*rebelliousness.*)

  • @siilatacollins154
    @siilatacollins154 2 роки тому +1

    I endlessly eternally forever, thank HEAVENLY FATHER & BELOVED HOLY HEAVENLY MOTHER, for the Restoration of the TRUE CHURCH back on Earth, THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST.

  • @siilatacollins154
    @siilatacollins154 2 роки тому +1

    I forever, thank HEAVENLY FATHER & BELOVED HOLY HEAVENLY MOTHER, for the Restoration of, THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST, named after our Oldest Brother JESUS CHRIST, back on Earth.

    • @MichaelSmith-ng9gc
      @MichaelSmith-ng9gc 2 роки тому +3

      How can Jesus be our brother and creator at the same time?

  • @44hawk28
    @44hawk28 4 роки тому

    So let me get this straight, if a prophet dies it is indicating that he was a false prophet. Considering every single one of the biblical prophets are now dead, were they false?
    As you present the theory that Brigham Young posited. Everything seems to be correct except for the fact that Adam is God the Father. The scriptures indicate that the Creator God was the only begotten son of God Who was the intermediary between God the Father and us.
    You also seem to, without directly saying it, be assuming that there is only one single God. And God has never said that, nor has anyone else. At least not in Scripture. In fact, absolute fact, in Genesis chapter 1 it talks about the Elohim creating man in their image. Which by definition means that there is more than one God and probably several. The other problem exists in the miscommunication between Genesis 1 and Genesis 2. At no time does it absolutely state that Adam of Genesis 2 is the first human male. Other scriptural evidences, although not biblical, indicate that Adam probably existed. However, you must understand that their purpose was to replenish the Earth. And part of Adams job was to watch over the trees. And trees have always been analogous to groups of people. Which exactly explains why when came left and went to nod he found a wife and married her. You also never touch on the difference between the Ha-Adam, and Adam. And there's plenty of evidence that Adam was after the previous incarnations of man. He was the one who was made perfect in body to fulfill the allegory of the fig tree.
    I do agree that it is false Doctrine in as much as it might claim that Adam is God the father. Because it clearly states in Scripture that Adam spoke with the power of the only begotten. Which indicates that he may very well have been in previous incarnation of Yeshua, Jesus Christ himself. And his purpose, would have been the first step toward salvation of the other peoples who had already separated themselves from God. A pre Earth, pre scriptural occurrence. Considering we now know that civilizations were around long before the time element of the Old Testament , and for some time. The purpose of Biblical scripture is only what we need to know, not everything there is to know!
    You also fail to understand that anytime anybody receives Revelation, whether they be profit or somebody who receives some Revelation that applies to their family, they frequently filter it through the imaginings of things that they already believe they fully understand. So it is entirely possible that those Earthly Concepts may have corrupted some of his understanding of information that he was given. Far too many people misunderstand the true nature of the workings of the organization of the Earth and those that completed it. I'm not saying that I understand it so much more, moreover I may very well understand it because I look at it from a different Paradigm than most others, especially those in the 1800's.
    Towards the end of the video you miss the other option. That parts of what Brigham Young had said may very well have been true that Adam maybe was a god. He just wasn't God the Father. He may very well have been one of the Elohim. Which are, Gods. Whether you like it or not. That's what the word Elohim means. And it was difficult for people of the 1800s to separate the concept of God the Father and other gods, either good or bad. But the Elohim are obviously according to the Hebrews a council of Gods in some form or fashion.
    The concept that there is only one God is in error. There may very well be a singular God that we answer to. But it depends on how you define God is it the most Supreme Being, which actually Echoes the old saying of the most high God. Which is almost ubiquitous in ancient writings. Or is it there is a singular God that we answer to, and at the Advent of Christ we answer to him through our intermediary Jesus Christ who is a God in his own right. Because he is the literal Son of God the Father! Puts a slightly different spin on it.

  • @k9l9b17
    @k9l9b17 4 роки тому

    Prophets are humans and make mistakes to. Believe it or not.

    • @Mygoalwogel
      @Mygoalwogel 4 роки тому +2

      If their teachings were mistaken, how are they a restoration?

    • @k9l9b17
      @k9l9b17 4 роки тому

      @@Mygoalwogel they restored the same organization as Christ's original church. Their purpose is to lead the kingdom of God however they are not the source of truth. God is the source of truth. We can trust them however we do need to keep in mind that personal revelation is the key to eternal life.

    • @Mygoalwogel
      @Mygoalwogel 4 роки тому +1

      @@k9l9b17 How can we trust them when they taught racism as doctrine? ua-cam.com/video/hZIptfaNWO8/v-deo.html

    • @k9l9b17
      @k9l9b17 4 роки тому

      @@Mygoalwogel when I say we can trust them, I mean like you trust a friend or a coworker. They are informed studying the same books as us living just like we are, I don't immediately shoot someone down just because they said something wrong, I still trust them however a smart person takes everything with a grain of salt. Also you have to understand why they made their decision. People back then hated the 'mormons' and I won't get into the history right now but if you want to understand why racism was happening within the church you should do your research on what was going on and I'm not just saying look at the immediate time the choice was made, look into church history before and after and you can see how things ended up. The church would have suffered major blows from the people involved at the time if they hadn't. Racism wasn't taught in the church in fact church leaders admitted to the potential of other races however our actions say otherwise due to outside circumstances.

    • @Mygoalwogel
      @Mygoalwogel 4 роки тому +1

      @@k9l9b17 You obviously didn't watch the video I posted. Racism was part of official LDS teaching.

  • @benjamingentile1660
    @benjamingentile1660 5 років тому +2

    For the record the “Adam is god” line form Brigham Young comes from one guy’s notes from a talk he gave... that’s it. No official documents, no corroborated documents, one guy’s notes from one talk

    • @tdubs5128
      @tdubs5128 5 років тому +4

      But it was openly taught for over 25 years and published in the journal of discourses. If this was just one man's notes you would think Brigham would have corrected him. We dont have any record of Brigham ever denying that he taught it. Unless I missed this somewhere.

    • @benjamingentile1660
      @benjamingentile1660 5 років тому

      Jay Brons not taught, mentioned that he said it. Remember, word traveled very slowly back then

    • @tdubs5128
      @tdubs5128 5 років тому +3

      @@benjamingentile1660 25 years from the pulpit in the tabernacle from Brigham Young.

    • @caramellu5003
      @caramellu5003 5 років тому +4

      Benjamin Gentile why are y Mormons so in denial can’t u see al the things wrong with the church ?

  • @horton6951
    @horton6951 3 роки тому

    Lds scripture proves that Adam Cannot be God . Joseph seen all of them as individuals in his heavenly vision recorded in D&C. Does anyone try to understand what they’re reading ?
    D&C 137:1-5
    1 The heavens were opened upon us, and I beheld the celestial kingdom of God, and the glory thereof, whether in the body or out I cannot tell.
    2 I saw the transcendent beauty of the gate through which the heirs of that kingdom will enter, which was like unto circling flames of fire;
    3 Also the blazing throne of God, whereon ( was seated the Father and the Son.)
    4 I saw the beautiful streets of that kingdom, which had the appearance of being paved with gold.
    5 I saw Father (Adam ) and Abraham; and my father and my mother; my brother Alvin, that has long since slept;

  • @longnamenocansayy
    @longnamenocansayy 5 років тому +3

    D&C 27.11 is still in the mormon scriptures. they still believe adam is god. D&C 27.11 And also with Michael, or Adam, the father of all, the prince of all, the ancient of days;
    it's very clear joseph smith said michael is adam is the father of all the ancient of days. daniel in the bible called God the ancient of days. christians call God the father. michael=adam=God.
    when we go to the celestial kingdom we will become gods. we will have our own planet, and harems. we will procreate and become a god to all our babies. the first man on any planet is a god to all his spirit babies. adam is the first man on this planet and so he is our god.
    i have just quoted mormon scripture D&C 27. i have just explained in minute detail the logic used by joseph smith and brigham young to explain the adam god theory.
    you can also google lds.org and find the following: Michael is Adam, D&C 27:11 (D&C 107:53-57; 128:21)
    mormons still believe adam is god, polygamy is neccessary for godhood, you can become a god, blood atonement (blood of righteous jesus does not atone for all sins. some sins the person has to shed his own blood for) book of mormon was translated by the gift and power of a rock in the hat.
    by the way, the dedication ceremony at mountain meadows where the mormons opened the ceremony with the song, we thank thee o god for a prophet was really priceless. no need to give the dead bodies of the people you murdered back to their relatives. for the mormons it's "we bagged 'em we keep ''em.