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  • @GrazzetMTG
    @GrazzetMTG  2 роки тому +25

    Let me know in the comments what new commanders from Streets of New Capenna you folks would like to see from me in future video's! Also, see below for all the upgrades in the deck!
    Creatures
    Bloodsoaked Champion >>> Jadar, Ghoulcaller of Nephalia
    Rekindling Phoenix >>> Poppet Stitcher
    Syrix, Carrier of the Flame >>> Talrand, Sky Summoner
    Puppeteer Clique >>> Deekah, Fractal Theorist
    Parnesse, the Subtle Brush >>> Storm-Kiln Artist
    Spellbinding Soprano >>> Archmage Emeritus
    Instants
    A Little Chat >>> Opt
    Ponder >>> Whispers of the Muse
    Preordain >>> Thrill of Possibility
    Body Count >>> Big Score
    Dig Through Time >>> Unexpected Windfall
    Audacious Swap >>> Rakdos Charm
    Clone Legion >>> Comet Storm
    Sorceries
    Deep Analysis >>> Seize the Spoils
    Flawless Forgery >>> Diabolic Tutor
    Xander's Pact >>> Mastermind's Acquisition
    Damnable Pact >>> Increasing Ambition
    Sever the Bloodline >>> Solve the Equation
    Drawn from Dreams >>> Illicit Shipment
    Hex >>> Walk the Aeons
    Reign of the Pit >>> Karn's Temporal Sundering
    Call the Skybreaker >>> Jaya's Immolating Inferno
    Talrand's Invocation >>> Cut // Ribbons
    Dread Summons >>> Devil's Play
    Ash Barrens >>> Cruel Ultimatum
    Zndrsplt's Judgment >>> Call to Mind
    Mimic Vat >>> Relearn
    Chain Reaction >>> Mystic Retrieval
    Enchantments
    Determined Iteration >>> Ghoulish Procession
    Rite of the Raging Storm >>> Curse of the Restless Dead
    Extravagant Replication >>> Metallurgic Summonings
    Artifacts
    Smuggler's Buggy >>> Swiftfoot Boots
    Lands
    Temple of Epiphany >>> Shivan Reef
    Grixis Panorama >>> Frostboil Snarl
    Maestros Theater >>> Ghost Quarter

    • @bongzong9824
      @bongzong9824 2 роки тому +1

      May I suggest the cards Arterial Flow and Syphon Mind? I know it is quite evil, but these cost 3 and 4 Mana and help you to get an insane card advantage.
      Arterial Flow helps you burn the enemy to death especially with Twining Staff and discard insane 6 cards... Same is true for Syphon mind. 3 cards discard and 9 cards draw is absurd. xD

    • @bongzong9824
      @bongzong9824 2 роки тому +1

      Dark Petition is also insanely cheap and giveS you BBBBBB Mana back, for another copy.

    • @jasonsiegel3869
      @jasonsiegel3869 5 місяців тому

      Hey Grazzet.. just wanna know if you'd ever make a Parnesse deck tech video..
      I bought this commander deck SPECIFICALLY for her..(I don't care for the flamboyant Vampire)..
      I think she is a hidden gem that a lot of people haven't seen much of, mainly cuz this particular Precon didn't get a lot of love..
      Thanks again, love the channel, love the vids..
      I can actually watch yours and learn more, and not fall asleep in the middle, because u get to the point (meat and potatoes) quickly.. thanks,
      Jason

  • @spookstheghost1253
    @spookstheghost1253 2 роки тому +50

    Just wanna say that this is by far the best format for a precon upgrade video that I’ve seen. Informative, straightforward, and easy to follow. Other Magic UA-camrs I’ve seen either only swap out 10 cards, which isn’t enough to get the deck up to par, or replace so many cards that it hardly resembles the original idea. This right here is the perfect formula.

    • @GrazzetMTG
      @GrazzetMTG  2 роки тому +3

      Glad you think so! I've been working hard on getting the formula down for both the building and formatting for these deck techs, so its good to hear that they are being enjoyed!

    • @VeneratedSon
      @VeneratedSon 2 роки тому

      I completely agree with that sentiment. The end breakdown for the math guys was honestly my favorite part of this awesome video, I instantly gravitated to Anhelo among the other Commanders. Outstanding work.

    • @renato1995
      @renato1995 2 роки тому

      He also added further upgrades that, yes may be pricey, but it's pretty apparent which card to swap for those too!

  • @overlordnerfer2
    @overlordnerfer2 2 роки тому +20

    Things to take out:
    !. Bloodsoaked Champion
    2. Rekindling Phoenix
    3. Syrix, Carrier of the Flame
    4. Puppeteer Clique
    5. Spellbinding Soprano
    6. Parnesse, the Subtle Brush
    7. Ponder
    8. Preordain
    9. A Little Chat
    10. Body Count
    11. Dig Through Time
    12. Audacious Swap
    13. Clone Legion
    14. Deep Analysis
    15. Flawless Forgery
    16. Xander's Pact
    17. Damnable Pact
    18. Drawn from Dreams
    19. Sever the Bloodline
    20. Hex
    21. Reign of the Pit
    22. Call teh Skybreaker
    23. Talrand's Invocation
    24. Dread Summons
    25. Ash Barrens
    26. Chain Reaction
    27. Mimic Vat
    28. Zndrsplt's Judgment
    29. Determinded Iteration
    30. Rite of the Raging Storm
    31. Extraagant Replication
    32. Smuggler's Buggy
    33. Temple of Epiphany
    34. Maestros Theater
    35. Grixis Panorama
    Things to add:
    1.Jadar, Ghoulcaller of Nephalia
    2.Poppet Stitcher
    3. Talrand, Sky Summoner
    4. Deekah, Fractal Theorist
    5. Storm-Kiln Artist
    6. Archmage Emeritus
    7. Opt
    8. Whispers of the Muse
    9. Thrill of Possibility
    10. Big Score
    11. Unexpected Windfall
    12. Rakdos Charm
    13. Comet Storm
    14. Seize the Spoils
    15. DIabloic Tutor
    16. Mastermind's Acquisition
    17. INcreasing Ambition
    18. Illicit Shipment
    19. Solve the Equation
    20. Walk the Aeons
    21. Karn's Temporal Sundering
    22. Jaya's Immolating Inferno
    23. Cut / Ribbons
    24. Devil's Play
    25. Cruel Ultimatum
    26. Call to Mind
    27. Relearn
    28. Mystic Retrieval
    29. Choulish Procession
    30. Curse of teh Restless Dead
    31. Metallurgic Summonings
    32. Swiftfoot Boots
    33. Shivan Reef
    34. Frostboil Snarl
    35. Ghost Quarter

    • @GrazzetMTG
      @GrazzetMTG  2 роки тому +5

      Thanks for compiling this list! I thought I had included this in a pinned comment in the video when it dropped but it looks like I overlooked pinning it (my bad) - all fixed now.

    • @dylansturm8065
      @dylansturm8065 Рік тому

      I added vial smasher and she's a 🏠

  • @daviskendrick6214
    @daviskendrick6214 2 роки тому +2

    Straight to the point, great upgrades, thanks a bunch

    • @GrazzetMTG
      @GrazzetMTG  2 роки тому

      No problem and thank you for watching!

  • @novasys9119
    @novasys9119 2 роки тому +3

    Anhelo was the top pick for my playstyle this commander set, nice to see him get the spotlight this week

    • @GrazzetMTG
      @GrazzetMTG  2 роки тому

      Hope you enjoyed it! He's probably my favorite as well.

  • @zinzunlicious4904
    @zinzunlicious4904 2 роки тому +2

    This is by far my favorite Deck Building channel! I've built 3 decks from here and they are fun to play, i do hope to see the Obscura deck tech next, I've been wanting like a spy theme to go with them but having trouble myself doing so 😅

    • @GrazzetMTG
      @GrazzetMTG  2 роки тому +1

      Riveteers is up next but don't worry, the Obscura deck is coming soon! And glad to here you've been enjoying the content and have been having fun playing with the builds!

  • @barrysetser3909
    @barrysetser3909 2 роки тому

    Gonna need more time to play all these great decks. Did have a blast with Chippy and the Nightmare Horror deck last night. Keep up the good work!

    • @GrazzetMTG
      @GrazzetMTG  2 роки тому

      Glad to hear that your having fun with the builds! Both of them were really fun to tackle!

    • @barrysetser3909
      @barrysetser3909 2 роки тому

      @@GrazzetMTG That Nightmare horror seems to always end with - "I did not see that coming"

    • @GrazzetMTG
      @GrazzetMTG  2 роки тому

      @@barrysetser3909 Yeah, that full graveyard exile into lethal tends to get folks.

  • @jasonmckeogh7376
    @jasonmckeogh7376 2 роки тому +1

    You’re killing these upgrade videos! I bought this deck so I’m glad you did it first. Which one is your favorite?

    • @GrazzetMTG
      @GrazzetMTG  2 роки тому

      Glad to hear you've been enjoying them! So far, my favorite had been Maestro's Massacre - I just love the casualty mechanic and am happy we have a commander for it, since its unlikely we'll be seeing it for a while after this set.

  • @Major_Killjoy1
    @Major_Killjoy1 2 роки тому +2

    Great video! I would love to see a video for Giada, Font of Hope or Jaxis, The Troublemaker.

    • @GrazzetMTG
      @GrazzetMTG  2 роки тому +1

      Glad you enjoyed the build! Giada makes for a great Mono White Angels build and Jaxis can do a lot with the token creation she has access to, so I can see either being a really fun build around!

    • @Therodaas
      @Therodaas 2 роки тому

      Seconding both of them!

  • @austinkerkhoff3481
    @austinkerkhoff3481 2 роки тому +1

    I would look forward to a build of Syrix, Carrier of the Flame because Phoenix tribal sounds like a fun idea to build around.

    • @GrazzetMTG
      @GrazzetMTG  2 роки тому +1

      Phoenix tribal does seem like it would be fun and Syrix would certainly be the bird to lead them.

  • @ynvaser7
    @ynvaser7 2 роки тому +1

    I'd love to see your take on Xander, the Collector.

    • @GrazzetMTG
      @GrazzetMTG  2 роки тому

      Xander is a bit pricey at $4 for a commander but if I do a increased budget build I'll certainly consider him as one of the options (assuming his price doesn't come down - in which case we may see him sooner).

  • @abrahamwilliams2280
    @abrahamwilliams2280 Рік тому +1

    This is really well done. I am wondering what is your oppionoin on adding gandalf, friend of the shire, or ammass orcs tacked onto spells from lotr? Otherwise it is a good commander and one I am still liking a year later.

  • @bohmel
    @bohmel 2 роки тому +1

    Personally I'd love to see the beamtown bullies, or from the non commander portion jinnie fay looks like a fun take on tokens

    • @GrazzetMTG
      @GrazzetMTG  2 роки тому

      I would love to take a crack a The Beamtown Bullies and give our opponents some very, VERY, bad creatures. Jinnie Fay would also be a nice build around for a Cat/Dog token build as well.

  • @thurgo2062
    @thurgo2062 2 роки тому +2

    For future upgrade guides, is there anyway you could make a list of just the cards you upgrade? Would be handy for purchasing them. Love the content, made me go out and buy this deck!

    • @GrazzetMTG
      @GrazzetMTG  2 роки тому +1

      I've add the full list of swaps to the pinned comment on the video. Hope that helps!

  • @crovax1375
    @crovax1375 2 роки тому

    I didn't really like this precon at first, but I am liking these changes!

    • @GrazzetMTG
      @GrazzetMTG  2 роки тому +1

      Nice to hear that that Anhelo was able to win you over!

  • @MageMisterE
    @MageMisterE 2 роки тому

    I really liked how you gave high end additions too. I just wish you mentioned what to swap them for.

    • @GrazzetMTG
      @GrazzetMTG  2 роки тому +3

      Sorry for the late response (I've been working on the other precons), but here's a quick swap guide for the upgrades -
      Thriving Bluff >>> Shipwreck Marsh
      Thriving Isle >>> Stormcarved Coast
      Thriving Moor >>> Haunted Ridge
      Path of Ancestry >>> Xander's Lounge
      Maestros Confluence >>> Exsanguinate
      Army of the Damned >>> Crackle with Power
      Cruel Ultimatum >>> Torment of Hailfire
      Karn's Temporal Sundering >>> Time Warp
      Mystic Confluence >>> Temporal Manipulation
      Illicit Shipment >>> Demonic Tutor
      Increasing Ambition >>> Diabolic Intent
      Hope that helps!

    • @MageMisterE
      @MageMisterE 2 роки тому

      @@GrazzetMTG thank you so much!

    • @GrazzetMTG
      @GrazzetMTG  2 роки тому +1

      @@MageMisterE No problem! I saw you're request when you posted it but just didn't have the time to build the swap list (WotC is keeping me busy with all their releases.). Better late then never I suppose!

  • @thiennguyendo
    @thiennguyendo 2 роки тому

    Idk if Deekah was $1 when this video was made but its definitely $12 now 🙃. Thanks for the upgrade list!

    • @GrazzetMTG
      @GrazzetMTG  2 роки тому +1

      Yeah, Deekah shot up in price after this went up, so we may need to look at another budget replacement for her now... Still, glad you enjoyed the build!

  • @bryancua3190
    @bryancua3190 2 роки тому

    not bad, I actually like this build not too back breaking but not weak either

    • @GrazzetMTG
      @GrazzetMTG  2 роки тому

      Glad to hear you enjoyed it!

  • @regaleagle6533
    @regaleagle6533 2 роки тому

    This is a pretty solid list I think it might be a mistake not to use 2 cmc copy spells they are great in this deck. If you use teach for example for instance plus 1 sac it triples another spell vs recurring or casting a different spell on another turn. Puppeteer clique also feels pretty solid for 5 you get a big creature swing and sac it to copy a spell. Then you sac clique to copy a spell persisting and bringing back another large hasty creature to swing with and copying again then clique copies a 4th spell. That is a pretty solid rate with the perks.

    • @GrazzetMTG
      @GrazzetMTG  2 роки тому

      Fair points - the tricky thing I find is finding the balance between the spells we want to copy and the copy effects themselves - too many and we'll only be drawing the copy spells and not the spell we want to copy, and too little and we'll almost never draw the copy spells themselves.
      Puppeteer Clique is also a good card, but it does require our opponents to have something in their grave for us to grab resulting it being a dead card for us sometimes - which is why it lost its place in this build but I can see still being used depending on your preference.

    • @regaleagle6533
      @regaleagle6533 2 роки тому

      @@GrazzetMTG it probably depends on how spiky you want the deck to be also since you have the similar to Kalamax copy spell combos that grant you unlimited copies which translates to unlimited mana or creatures or damage. Oops I accidentally got a million treasure tokens becomes a thing.

  • @Daigelmir
    @Daigelmir 2 роки тому

    Great deck tech as always Grazzet!!!
    May I suggest that if possible you include some combo plays examples in the videos?
    And as for last upgrades segment, can u also add your suggestion on which cards to replace?

    • @GrazzetMTG
      @GrazzetMTG  2 роки тому +1

      Glad you enjoyed it!
      This time around I won't be able to sadly (since most of the scripts and audio are already in the process of being recorded) but it may be worth exploring in future video's.

  • @Frank_UK_was_taken
    @Frank_UK_was_taken 2 роки тому

    Hey there, absolutely love the upgrade guide!
    I'm really new to deck building and am wondering which cards you would replace for the further upgrades you mentioned?:
    stormcarved coast
    haunted ridge
    xanders lounge
    torment of hailfire
    temporal manipulation
    demonic tutor
    diabolic intent

    • @GrazzetMTG
      @GrazzetMTG  2 роки тому +2

      Here's the list of all the upgrades I came up with:
      Thriving Bluff >>> Shipwreck Marsh
      Thriving Isle >>> Stormcarved Coast
      Thriving Moor >>> Haunted Ridge
      Path of Ancestry >>> Xander's Lounge
      Maestros Confluence >>> Exsanguinate
      Army of the Damned >>> Crackle with Power
      Cruel Ultimatum >>> Torment of Hailfire
      Karn's Temporal Sundering >>> Time Warp
      Mystic Confluence >>> Temporal Manipulation
      Illicit Shipment >>> Demonic Tutor
      Increasing Ambition >>> Diabolic Intent
      Hope that helps!

  • @tessikthegrand
    @tessikthegrand 2 роки тому

    I am interested in Vazi, Keen Negotiator. She is really unique for a Jund commander, and I would love to see what you do with her.

    • @GrazzetMTG
      @GrazzetMTG  2 роки тому +1

      She is definitely a politics heavy commander, which we don't see too much of in Jund - could certainly make for a interesting build around.

  • @No2hISwear
    @No2hISwear 2 роки тому

    I’d love to see a Jetmir profile

    • @GrazzetMTG
      @GrazzetMTG  2 роки тому

      Jetmir, Nexus of Revels is actually under $3 for a mythic (which is crazy to me) so that means there is a solid chance that he will get to feature in a future poll, so stay tuned!

  • @shawn9613
    @shawn9613 2 роки тому

    Can you recommend a decklist with Parnesse, the Subtle Brush as commander?

    • @GrazzetMTG
      @GrazzetMTG  2 роки тому

      Sadly I do not know one of the top that I can recommend and just a quite check on youtube didn't bring up any builds for her either... Such a shame, since she is an very interesting political commander

    • @shawn9613
      @shawn9613 2 роки тому

      @@GrazzetMTG yes zero builds with her :( btw thank you for checking

  • @amirulfadlibinhajiamirabas6047
    @amirulfadlibinhajiamirabas6047 2 роки тому

    What is your take on a non-budget version of this deck? Great deck tech, had so much fun with the list 👍🏻

    • @GrazzetMTG
      @GrazzetMTG  2 роки тому

      Glad you enjoyed it! Sadly I don't really have a full increased budget for this build since I have not been able to test with a increased one - but I would recommend taking a look at the upgrades section in the breakdown to get some idea's on what hire priced card can be slotted in that fit the game plan. From there, I would say the landbase would be the next spot to spend some extra money on to get faster fixing with shocks and fetch lands, which will increase the base price significantly.
      Hope that helps!

  • @f4ffy538
    @f4ffy538 2 роки тому

    Great video! I didnt try the upgraded version yet but I thought about replacing Make an Example with Mana Geysir, what are your thoughts about that change?

    • @GrazzetMTG
      @GrazzetMTG  2 роки тому +1

      I think Mana Geyser is a spectacular card to copy for the bonkers amount of mana it can generate, but the core deck doesn't really have any spells to pump all that into to get you the win. I would consider adding a few X damage dealing X spells to make the most out of it. I would consider swapping it our for something other than Make an Example, since it does allow us to wipe "the best half" of our opponents board of our choice and then again with Anhelo, making is a pretty solid boardwipe overall in my opinion.

  • @Pegasustridolar
    @Pegasustridolar Рік тому

    What would be a good/best opening hand? Any tips?
    I first played this deck today and I couldnt do anything cuz I couldnt kill any important creatures or counter spells. And mana problems I guess cuz bad hand decision

  • @Galchoo1
    @Galchoo1 2 роки тому +5

    Truly a glorious deck that makes everyone yell "BLOODY MURDER". Testing will definitely be quite the experience... will this build be better than the Riveteer one though? We'll see.
    Day 263 of waiting for the GrazzetMTG face reveal. Speaking of bloodsucking rich families forcibly buying everything they see... what are your thoughts on Elon Musk buying Twitter?
    Edit: woops, typos.

    • @GrazzetMTG
      @GrazzetMTG  2 роки тому +2

      Glad you enjoyed the build and thanks for the support as always!
      I haven't been following the whole twitter thing honestly (much too much magic content to go over with all the precons and new set) so I don't really have an opinion to give one way or another.

  • @zonko
    @zonko 2 роки тому

    What is the background music in the beginning? I like it a lot

    • @GrazzetMTG
      @GrazzetMTG  2 роки тому

      That would be Dark Fantasy Studio - Home - which I acquired off a DRM free music from Humble Bundle a while back.

    • @zonko
      @zonko 2 роки тому

      @@GrazzetMTG thnx man

  • @morkyness
    @morkyness 2 роки тому

    Jaxis has kiki jiki vibes. Let's go with that one.

    • @GrazzetMTG
      @GrazzetMTG  2 роки тому

      Jaxis certainly seems like a fun build around for a temporary token build!

  • @TxarlesN
    @TxarlesN 2 роки тому +2

    After seeing the amount of good cards that come in this deck, I realized that it actually feels like an improvement over the last structured ones.
    Still, I don't know if the price increase is justified.
    Anyway, thanks so much for the video and the great deck suggestions.

    • @GrazzetMTG
      @GrazzetMTG  2 роки тому

      Glad you enjoyed it! Sadly it looks like the price increase may be the new norm according to WotC with the pandemic and now other global issues increasing the price for everything.

  • @adamsantiago4765
    @adamsantiago4765 2 роки тому

    Did you say in the beginning of the video that his casualty ability works from the command zone? If so how ?

    • @GrazzetMTG
      @GrazzetMTG  2 роки тому +1

      It doesn't. I meant that this is a means to copy our spells that we have access to from the command zone, as in we can easily summon him to get access to it instead of drawing into it from our deck. Hope that clears that up and sorry for the confusion.

    • @adamsantiago4765
      @adamsantiago4765 2 роки тому

      @@GrazzetMTG thank you so much for the reply. That clears things up! I thought maybe I heard wrong or was playing him wrong. Awesome work, awesome channel, keep it up !

  • @chiuka0
    @chiuka0 2 роки тому

    What about a Phabine, Boss Confidant landfall and/or Extra Combat Phase deck?

    • @GrazzetMTG
      @GrazzetMTG  2 роки тому +1

      I feel Phabine, Boss Confidant would thrive in a more "group hug" style build where you help everyone at the table but help yourself more than the rest. The extra combat steps are certainly a cool twist though, to allow her to get extra used our of her Parlay to make more tokens and make them all bigger more often. Good suggestion!

    • @chiuka0
      @chiuka0 2 роки тому

      @@GrazzetMTG I mean, there is also a lot of cards that create tokens with landfall effects, like Maja or Felidar Retreat. It would be kinda of a "large and tall" token deck, but I also get your idea of a "group hug" deck. Thanks for answering me!

    • @GrazzetMTG
      @GrazzetMTG  2 роки тому +1

      @@chiuka0 No worries - you took the time to comment so the least I can do is reply! And I can see a go wide build taking advantage of her token creation and pump working too. Goes to show that there are multiple ways to build a commander and have it work!

  • @kevinvalentine8311
    @kevinvalentine8311 2 роки тому

    if i want to include all the 11 other card you suggest at the end, plus rhystic study, wich card should i remove from this build? thx

    • @GrazzetMTG
      @GrazzetMTG  2 роки тому +1

      Here would be my list of suggested swaps:
      Thriving Bluff >>> Shipwreck Marsh
      Thriving Isle >>> Stormcarved Coast
      Thriving Moor >>> Haunted Ridge
      Path of Ancestry >>> Xander's Lounge
      Maestros Confluence >>> Exsanguinate
      Army of the Damned >>> Crackle with Power
      Cruel Ultimatum >>> Torment of Hailfire
      Karn's Temporal Sundering >>> Time Warp
      Mystic Confluence >>> Temporal Manipulation
      Illicit Shipment >>> Demonic Tutor
      Increasing Ambition >>> Diabolic Intent
      Fact or Fiction >>> Rhystic Study
      Hope that helps!

  • @marcelofrmo
    @marcelofrmo 2 роки тому

    Made much of this upgrade. My deck is way more consistent!

  • @kenjohnson3683
    @kenjohnson3683 2 роки тому

    Buying you a coffee just so you might work on a Falco Spara deck build 😊

    • @GrazzetMTG
      @GrazzetMTG  2 роки тому +1

      Appreciate the caffeine and we'll see if we can get him on a poll soon!

  • @danielharrison2383
    @danielharrison2383 2 роки тому

    Queza I guess. I love to draw. Draw them like one of your French girls.

    • @GrazzetMTG
      @GrazzetMTG  2 роки тому

      Queza, Augur of Agonies is quite nice, especially for a uncommon commander. And a lot of folks definitely like her, so I can see her showing up in the polls soon.