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Excellent! Truly excellent work. My thoughts on Gandalf are as follows, I haven't seen the letters you refer to but have reasoned through, often with a friend, to get remarkably similar conclusions. Galadriel was in the same place at the same time as Olorin, wisdom such has his have a pattern that cannot be disguised. So, along with the help of her ring, I believe she knew Gandalf's true identity. When Gandalf fell on the bridge, Aragorn stated that they must continue without hope. When Gandalf returned, Aragorn stated that "beyond all hope, you return to us" It's a fairly clear indication of what Gandalf had achieved. The people recognised what he was, hope, and they could continue without him. I have thought for many years that it was Eru who sent back Gandalf, the Valar do not have the power. Gandalf the white was immune to any weapon forged on Middle Earth, no enemy attacked him, the only ones to try were Aragorn, Legolas and Gimli. During the battle at the gate he stood on a mound and no shadow fell on him that day, that is pure might. When Frodo put on the ring after Boromir's attack, the eye closed in on him, then veered away. That was Gandalf being returned to life, so powerful was he as the white that Sauron felt his return and likely knew where he was at all times, something Aragorn used to draw out Saurons army at the black gate. The films diminished Gandalf the white, he was never defeated, never attacked. On the Pelenor fields light did not eminate from his staff, it was white fire from his hand that forced the Nazgul to retreat. In my view, Gandalf was wise enough to realise that you can only achieve what is possible and so didn't hope for miracles. I also think that Eru only altered the plan of the Valar at the point of it's failure and did not guide the Valar in making their choices. Imagine walking around for 3000 years to help guide and increase wisdom over many generations to several different peoples, then, at the moment everything really started you found you had no time. knowing you could not interfere but could inspire, enlighten and give counsel. Giving your life to the cause only to be returned to complete your work. Such an incredible character to create. My final thought on him is that at the key moment, after the battle for Minas Tirith, Gandalf finished his task when he watched Aragorn lead the free peoples and make all the decisions.
Your deep analysis of Gandalf's journey is remarkable! The connection you've made between hope, Eru's intervention, and Gandalf's heightened power as the White is beautifully observed - especially how Aragorn's words reflect this transformation. I particularly appreciate your insight about Gandalf completing his task when Aragorn truly steps into leadership. Thank you for sharing such a thoughtful and nuanced interpretation!
Great work. I've read pretty widely in the Legendarium and I think this was a masterful synthesis of the lore with a bit of (justifiable) original speculation thrown in connecting all the dots. I hope you will excuse my offering one small correction: at the end of the Second Age Sauron was defeated not by Isildur, but by his father Elendil fighting alongside King Gil-Galad. Isildur cut the ring from Sauron's hand after that. Overall, fantastic work nonetheless!
Thank you for such a thoughtful comment and for your kind words about the synthesis! And I absolutely welcome the correction - you are absolutely right. The fall of Sauron came at the hands of Elendil and Gil-galad, who both perished in that confrontation. Isildur's role with the Ring came after, a crucial detail I should have been more precise about. Having knowledgeable viewers like yourself who care about accuracy helps maintain the quality of lore discussions.
I think it’s simpler. The 5 were restricted because Sauron had demonstrated to the Valar what a Maia could do with its own innate power and no scruples. Out of the five, only Olorin demonstrated the wisdom and moral courage to choose the “right” course of actions. Thus, Gandalf is not enhanced so much as released from the restrictions of his own innate power. He is TRUSTED not to fall to the temptation of his unrestricted power.
For the second paragraph, it was mainly because he was the only one of the 5 to stick to the original mission. Sauruman fell Rattagast is more worried with Yavanna's request to protect nature Nobody knows about the 2 blue wizards, only rumors are known of what they did
Gandalf was scared of beings like saurian so imagine how much more he would have been on a being on much higher level as Morgoth the most powerful creation of God Eru answer no he wouldn't be able to defeat Morgoth
Actually, Olórin's role during the War against Morgoth isn't directly mentioned in Tolkien's writings. While many Maiar fought against Morgoth in the First Age, we don't have specific accounts of Olórin's involvement. What we do know is that he was known for his wisdom and was said to walk unseen among the Elves of Valinor, giving them fair visions and counsel that would make them wiser. His more direct involvement in Middle-earth's affairs came later, when he was sent as Gandalf during the Third Age.
I want to thank all 3,600+ subscribers for helping this channel grow so quickly. You've truly exceeded all my expectations! 🙏
If you’re interested in exploring Middle-earth further and would like to get the books mentioned in this video, here’s a list with my Amazon affiliate links. By purchasing through these links, you directly support the channel at no extra cost to you. Thank you for all your support!
📚 Books mentioned:
The Lord of the Rings: amzn.to/3UMEf90
Unfinished Tales: amzn.to/3UM0yfj
The Silmarillion: amzn.to/3NYQN9I
The Hobbit: amzn.to/48IZnTn
The History of Middle-earth: amzn.to/48GQOZr
The Letters of JRR Tolkien: amzn.to/3YX4mg6
What a great video. Lore was great, story was great and those AI images where awesome. Very well presented.
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Excellent! Truly excellent work.
My thoughts on Gandalf are as follows, I haven't seen the letters you refer to but have reasoned through, often with a friend, to get remarkably similar conclusions.
Galadriel was in the same place at the same time as Olorin, wisdom such has his have a pattern that cannot be disguised. So, along with the help of her ring, I believe she knew Gandalf's true identity.
When Gandalf fell on the bridge, Aragorn stated that they must continue without hope. When Gandalf returned, Aragorn stated that "beyond all hope, you return to us" It's a fairly clear indication of what Gandalf had achieved. The people recognised what he was, hope, and they could continue without him.
I have thought for many years that it was Eru who sent back Gandalf, the Valar do not have the power. Gandalf the white was immune to any weapon forged on Middle Earth, no enemy attacked him, the only ones to try were Aragorn, Legolas and Gimli. During the battle at the gate he stood on a mound and no shadow fell on him that day, that is pure might.
When Frodo put on the ring after Boromir's attack, the eye closed in on him, then veered away. That was Gandalf being returned to life, so powerful was he as the white that Sauron felt his return and likely knew where he was at all times, something Aragorn used to draw out Saurons army at the black gate.
The films diminished Gandalf the white, he was never defeated, never attacked. On the Pelenor fields light did not eminate from his staff, it was white fire from his hand that forced the Nazgul to retreat.
In my view, Gandalf was wise enough to realise that you can only achieve what is possible and so didn't hope for miracles. I also think that Eru only altered the plan of the Valar at the point of it's failure and did not guide the Valar in making their choices.
Imagine walking around for 3000 years to help guide and increase wisdom over many generations to several different peoples, then, at the moment everything really started you found you had no time. knowing you could not interfere but could inspire, enlighten and give counsel. Giving your life to the cause only to be returned to complete your work. Such an incredible character to create.
My final thought on him is that at the key moment, after the battle for Minas Tirith, Gandalf finished his task when he watched Aragorn lead the free peoples and make all the decisions.
Your deep analysis of Gandalf's journey is remarkable! The connection you've made between hope, Eru's intervention, and Gandalf's heightened power as the White is beautifully observed - especially how Aragorn's words reflect this transformation. I particularly appreciate your insight about Gandalf completing his task when Aragorn truly steps into leadership. Thank you for sharing such a thoughtful and nuanced interpretation!
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Great work. I've read pretty widely in the Legendarium and I think this was a masterful synthesis of the lore with a bit of (justifiable) original speculation thrown in connecting all the dots. I hope you will excuse my offering one small correction: at the end of the Second Age Sauron was defeated not by Isildur, but by his father Elendil fighting alongside King Gil-Galad. Isildur cut the ring from Sauron's hand after that. Overall, fantastic work nonetheless!
Thank you for such a thoughtful comment and for your kind words about the synthesis! And I absolutely welcome the correction - you are absolutely right. The fall of Sauron came at the hands of Elendil and Gil-galad, who both perished in that confrontation. Isildur's role with the Ring came after, a crucial detail I should have been more precise about. Having knowledgeable viewers like yourself who care about accuracy helps maintain the quality of lore discussions.
I think it’s simpler. The 5 were restricted because Sauron had demonstrated to the Valar what a Maia could do with its own innate power and no scruples.
Out of the five, only Olorin demonstrated the wisdom and moral courage to choose the “right” course of actions. Thus, Gandalf is not enhanced so much as released from the restrictions of his own innate power. He is TRUSTED not to fall to the temptation of his unrestricted power.
For the second paragraph, it was mainly because he was the only one of the 5 to stick to the original mission.
Sauruman fell
Rattagast is more worried with Yavanna's request to protect nature
Nobody knows about the 2 blue wizards, only rumors are known of what they did
Did olerin or gandalfs miar name fight against morgoth?
Gandalf was scared of beings like saurian so imagine how much more he would have been on a being on much higher level as Morgoth the most powerful creation of God Eru answer no he wouldn't be able to defeat Morgoth
Actually, Olórin's role during the War against Morgoth isn't directly mentioned in Tolkien's writings. While many Maiar fought against Morgoth in the First Age, we don't have specific accounts of Olórin's involvement. What we do know is that he was known for his wisdom and was said to walk unseen among the Elves of Valinor, giving them fair visions and counsel that would make them wiser. His more direct involvement in Middle-earth's affairs came later, when he was sent as Gandalf during the Third Age.
very well conceived....Enjoyrd it alot.
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Who made the stairs in the deep?
I thought the difference was persil
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Why didn't some of the elves take the ring to the west. The false are more powerful than sauron