Thank you for not abandoning this great game, Mr. Smart Donkey! I hope you never will. I also would like to say I am learning something new from your videos every time. Long live Shogun 2, long live Mr. Smart Donkey! :)
As someone who requested this a few weeks back, thank you so much for doing it, especially on legendary. I imagine with the Uesugi it might be actually impossible unless you get really lucky with some monk revolts in neighbouring provinces so you get enough time to get all the buildings and recruit some units.
Finally on holidays and can binge watch your videos. Im LOVING the 1440p and watching 1440p on my Note 9 is CRISP! let alone on my 65 inch OLED. I appreciate the effort and love that you're keeping up with Shogun 2, the last good total war game imo.
I recently completed a similar Ikko Ikki campaign. I built a Sake Den in Echizen at the start so I could recruit a ninja and have the extra income until I was able to build the second temple and archery dojo. I was lucky, but the ninja was able to repeatedly sabotage a small attacking army holding it in place, doing damage, and leveling up in the process. In any case, it looks like you're finally off to the races! (I'm also with you on the damage vs armor argument in this instance)
Awesome Campaign !! Can't wait to watch the next episodes..Keep em coming more frequently.. Also, Weaponsmithy is more advantageous as you'll get Garrison with upgraded Melee attack, every time it spawns. Unlike current total war games, garrison doesn't level up in Shogun2; so, +4 attack on Ashigarus should bode well for you in the future.
So...if you want to rush and demoralize the enemies all the time iwth the monks, is extra charge bonus maybe a decent option over 2 armor from the encampment chain ?
Hi, its me again. I did another attempt by following your restriction (legendary domination campaign, disband all initial units and free vassal unit before making any diplomatic request, keeping only generals). Here is my turn 15th result , it is pretty much stabilized. I got 3 provinces which is echizen,kaga and noto. I can recruit 3 monks from echizen and 2 monks from kaga. I got 4 stars daimyo and 3 stars general , didn't have the luck to get another general. My generals traits are not decent. My war tactic is to simply run the timer down during siege. Offense is the best defense. My 3 main provinces (echizen, kaga and noto) have never been under attacked at all except by rebels i planned for. Check diplomacy regularly for the relationships indicators such as (unfriendly or hostile, it is sign they are going to declare war, and plan accordingly). I done all these by using 1 Daimyo and 1 General, simply set timer to 20mins and run the timer down during AI attempt to break siege, siege town while whole army inside town and has only 1 cavalry unit which is general, if more than 1 general, pick other target) So my conclusion, this challenge is doable. drive.google.com/open?id=13yhlUaCTqtsHqafwm8J3WDjq56cXumeb My approach: 1. Marriage with Jinbo to ensure Jinbo stay friendly, Milk money through military access with jinbo and asai. 2. I send daimyo to capture sakai and general to capture Noto at first turn, daimyo continue to capture takaoka. I made them both vassal(Instant disband free unit). I managed to made takaoka my vassal with their full army intact because takaoka were declared war by amako and yamana, therefore they agreed to be my vassal when i siege them with daimyo.(another trick of mine through intense playing) 4. Sakai army stay in place while Takaoka army helps me siege Tajima that belongs to Yamana, this is due to Sakai army can't pass through Takaoka army. I planned this because I want Sakai army to stay in place incase AI attack from Asai region. AI won't join war unless they can get passage to their target with only 1 time war declaration. To be honest, diplomacy works well if you keep watching your relationship, easier to manage who you want to be at war with. 5. I did a mistake with my tech tree choice. I went with Zen first , thinking it would be the same timing. I realized I could have recruit monks at turn 11 if i went the other way around as , naginata dojo takes 4 turns to build. So the correct tech tree flow is going for naginata dojo first. 6. I failed to make Anegakoji my vassal as i was 1 turn away from reaching its empty town while the main army was heading for Jinbo. I did this to save jinbo. However Takeda managed to steal Anegakoji from me. I got free exp from assisting takeda as my general was super close to Anegakoji. 7. I managed to allied with Takeda by offer trade embargo towards sakai and jinbo. (AI will see trade embargo towards yours own ally is a plus to them) My plan/prediction: 1. Asai somehow managed to stay alive, but it doesn't matter as i got Sakai to handle them for me. I got Echizen and kaga into Fortress( On the way to castle), so they are pretty well defended either way. 2. I incited 2nd rebel attempt on jinbo region at turn 15th as the main army are heading for Uesugi( First incite only spawn 1 yari+ 1 bow, can't take down retainer). This should enable me to take Jinbo , if fail, i will have to wait for my monks to take it by force. 3. My daimyo is besieging Tajima that belongs to Yamana, should have it in 3 turns.
@@alphaluda good luck and have fun. Btw I suggest expand towards right side of the map because it is troublesome to have vassals that located in middle of your terrority during realm divide. So echizen shall be your wall to withstand attacks from left side.
if you purposefully lose Echizen then Kaga can recruit 2 units a turn and as it already has a temple and you upgrade that town first that may be your best option.
Nah, not worth losing my capital for slightly faster recruitment. Once I start recruiting I will be broke super quickly anyway, so I won't need fast recruitment regardless.
Let me say 2 things. One, you should look into doing a FoTS with sharpshooters only. Two, I imagine this playthrough should be easier compared to some. I did an only camp with a friend once and he was rather annoyed at me for playing the Ikko. Having units that never route is a massive advantage. All being said, I love your videos :)
Better attempt than last one but this time you did worst in 1st battle. I think you are just rusty from long break from S2TW. Your dislike for dismounting units hurt you - most likely you would do much better with no or just 1 mounted unit outside. Also fighting enemy general outside in sea of yari ashigaru was suicidal (You wanted to get that morale penalty I get it but you know better to not allow anything with bonus vs cavalry to fight your cavalry). With 2 bodyguards (meaning 2 extra inspire to rotate) and Samurai retainers you could hammer and anvil inside castle those yari ashigaru and when enemy general would climb you could get back on horses and charge him with higher charge stats for win. Meanwhile your third unit could just kite some enemies around and occasionally buff unit inside. But that just food for thought. You have some strong habits - just happened this situation didn't favour them this time. Also interesting conundrum regarding upgrade options for Echizen specialty resource. Difficult to say what would be better suited for this walkthrough. Best Regards and keep up the good work!
Hi i am a fans of yours. I have attempted this challenge myself. drive.google.com/file/d/1Q6EzLaEVwxhnG7R8OPPuq3rV3oymhqBK/view?usp=sharing I kept the initial units given. Truth to be told , i dont think it is viable to do it without initial army. Your power level is how much AI will respect your, Being feeble will invite war declaration and AI refusal to make trade with you. I played countless of legendary domination campaign myself ( usually total map domination between turn 60 to 80ish). So i pretty much got the AI behaviour covered. However i think i might be possible to do this without initial units in non legendary campaign. (Just guessing since i only play legendary campaign ) If you truly want to attempt this without initial units, i could only think of 1 way. Just send send your general to siege town early on , run the timer up. Repeat this for few turns ,vassal the town and move to next. It takes some rng for this to work because 1 light cavalry unit in enemy town will make your siege fail. Having vassal will make AI less likely to attack you as their power level is added to you (i assume so) during their war declaration judgement. I managed to reach turns 11 with over 10k koku in bank , 3 provinces. Can recruit warrior monk in kaga only (because i did a mistake in delaying yari drill building in echizen by 2 turns due to my habit). I hope my suggestion helps. Like your videos My approach: 1. In first 3 turns, I made sakai, takaoka and hatano my vassal for 3 free yari units (because 3 of them are allied) 2. I squeezed money from (jinbo, asai and hattori after hattori eliminated asai which i predicted due to my experience) 3. After i beat hatano, i moved back my army toward Noto direction to get additional farm. 4. My tech tree : Research up to zen first, because there is no use having yari drill early, might as well go for eco;Go for encampment tech tree next. 5. Camp my army around( kaga, echizen and noto) and making my own provinces rebel for exp farming. My plan/prediction: 1. I predicted hattori and takedo will soon expand toward to me, therefore i camp. I can beat them in siege defend easily. 2. I did a mistake in delaying yari drill building by 2 turns in echizen because it became my habit to only build bowman in that province. 3.After I have around 4 more monks , i will expand towards takeda region(right side ) and make echizen my wall to hold assault from left side. 4. I will demolish ninja den in kaga after i got encampment tech. I built it just to get ninja. 5. Generals skill tree , get rank 3 in strategist and then rank 3 in infantry leader.
I tried the challenge myself. Certainly it is very hard. At first, I abandoned Echizen so I can get Naginata monk faster, and it is easier to defend just Kaga with a Naginata Monk Garrison. I was able to get into Realm Divide. After that, progress was very slow since I had a small number of armies to work around with. Let's see if I can get the long campaign victory.
That defeats the purpose of the challenge though, I'm not allowed to have those units, so keeping them until I've done my diplomacy to make myself appear stronger wouldn't be fair. It also wouldn't really matter as I can trade with everyone except the Saito anyway, and they never agree to trade as the Ikko Ikki on turn 1.
@@MrSmartDonkeyLP plenty of ways to argue it, but it's your challenge I'm happy watching it all go on either way. I figured the saito might actually talk to while you had them. I thought I seen you do your diplomacy then get rid if them in the siege units only challenge but I could be wrong.
Thank you for not abandoning this great game, Mr. Smart Donkey! I hope you never will. I also would like to say I am learning something new from your videos every time. Long live Shogun 2, long live Mr. Smart Donkey! :)
really appreciate your time and effort to make the 1440p works. I always watch your vids full screen on my 2k screen, so this is so much better.
chao ku
As someone who requested this a few weeks back, thank you so much for doing it, especially on legendary. I imagine with the Uesugi it might be actually impossible unless you get really lucky with some monk revolts in neighbouring provinces so you get enough time to get all the buildings and recruit some units.
Finally on holidays and can binge watch your videos. Im LOVING the 1440p and watching 1440p on my Note 9 is CRISP! let alone on my 65 inch OLED.
I appreciate the effort and love that you're keeping up with Shogun 2, the last good total war game imo.
I recently completed a similar Ikko Ikki campaign. I built a Sake Den in Echizen at the start so I could recruit a ninja and have the extra income until I was able to build the second temple and archery dojo. I was lucky, but the ninja was able to repeatedly sabotage a small attacking army holding it in place, doing damage, and leveling up in the process. In any case, it looks like you're finally off to the races! (I'm also with you on the damage vs armor argument in this instance)
Great job on this one Donkey! Love your resilience on not giving up after another failed attempt. If anyone can do this, its you.
Awesome Campaign !!
Can't wait to watch the next episodes..Keep em coming more frequently..
Also, Weaponsmithy is more advantageous as you'll get Garrison with upgraded Melee attack, every time it spawns. Unlike current total war games, garrison doesn't level up in Shogun2; so, +4 attack on Ashigarus should bode well for you in the future.
Yaaaaay. Finally here!
I appreciate the conclusion which you found with that mod !!
Hell fucking yea- it's back to shogun 2 baby!
Cool challenge! Can’t wait for the next episode!
*IT'S REWIND TIME*
*aaah THAT'S HOT*
good ole shogun 2; declaration of war on the player is like the AI's first consideration before anything else, unlike tk.
To be fair, declaration of war on the AI is the player 's first consideration before anything else.
Randome subscriber "It's not your second video for this challenge?"
MisterSmartDonkey "CHUUUTT !!! you know nothing..."
So...if you want to rush and demoralize the enemies all the time iwth the monks, is extra charge bonus maybe a decent option over 2 armor from the encampment chain ?
dead monks with arrows stick in their bodies can't demoralize anyone.
At 36:38 why do u have an extra naginata warrior monk? Is this a mod? or?
Ok this is perfect compromise! Now give us some monk on monk action.
My OCD is screaming - you didn't upgrade that monk! >.
Hi, its me again. I did another attempt by following your restriction (legendary domination campaign, disband all initial units and free vassal unit before making any diplomatic request, keeping only generals). Here is my turn 15th result , it is pretty much stabilized. I got 3 provinces which is echizen,kaga and noto. I can recruit 3 monks from echizen and 2 monks from kaga. I got 4 stars daimyo and 3 stars general , didn't have the luck to get another general. My generals traits are not decent. My war tactic is to simply run the timer down during siege. Offense is the best defense. My 3 main provinces (echizen, kaga and noto) have never been under attacked at all except by rebels i planned for. Check diplomacy regularly for the relationships indicators such as (unfriendly or hostile, it is sign they are going to declare war, and plan accordingly). I done all these by using 1 Daimyo and 1 General, simply set timer to 20mins and run the timer down during AI attempt to break siege, siege town while whole army inside town and has only 1 cavalry unit which is general, if more than 1 general, pick other target)
So my conclusion, this challenge is doable.
drive.google.com/open?id=13yhlUaCTqtsHqafwm8J3WDjq56cXumeb
My approach:
1. Marriage with Jinbo to ensure Jinbo stay friendly, Milk money through military access with jinbo and asai.
2. I send daimyo to capture sakai and general to capture Noto at first turn, daimyo continue to capture takaoka. I made them both vassal(Instant disband free unit). I managed to made takaoka my vassal with their full army intact because takaoka were declared war by amako and yamana, therefore they agreed to be my vassal when i siege them with daimyo.(another trick of mine through intense playing)
4. Sakai army stay in place while Takaoka army helps me siege Tajima that belongs to Yamana, this is due to Sakai army can't pass through Takaoka army. I planned this because I want Sakai army to stay in place incase AI attack from Asai region. AI won't join war unless they can get passage to their target with only 1 time war declaration. To be honest, diplomacy works well if you keep watching your relationship, easier to manage who you want to be at war with.
5. I did a mistake with my tech tree choice. I went with Zen first , thinking it would be the same timing. I realized I could have recruit monks at turn 11 if i went the other way around as , naginata dojo takes 4 turns to build. So the correct tech tree flow is going for naginata dojo first.
6. I failed to make Anegakoji my vassal as i was 1 turn away from reaching its empty town while the main army was heading for Jinbo. I did this to save jinbo. However Takeda managed to steal Anegakoji from me. I got free exp from assisting takeda as my general was super close to Anegakoji.
7. I managed to allied with Takeda by offer trade embargo towards sakai and jinbo. (AI will see trade embargo towards yours own ally is a plus to them)
My plan/prediction:
1. Asai somehow managed to stay alive, but it doesn't matter as i got Sakai to handle them for me. I got Echizen and kaga into Fortress( On the way to castle), so they are pretty well defended either way.
2. I incited 2nd rebel attempt on jinbo region at turn 15th as the main army are heading for Uesugi( First incite only spawn 1 yari+ 1 bow, can't take down retainer). This should enable me to take Jinbo , if fail, i will have to wait for my monks to take it by force.
3. My daimyo is besieging Tajima that belongs to Yamana, should have it in 3 turns.
Ill try that, thank you for sharing ^^
@@alphaluda good luck and have fun. Btw I suggest expand towards right side of the map because it is troublesome to have vassals that located in middle of your terrority during realm divide. So echizen shall be your wall to withstand attacks from left side.
@@RG-hx8uc Echizen is a great natural chokepoint! Its like Helms Deep ^^
thanks for your tip
if you purposefully lose Echizen then Kaga can recruit 2 units a turn and as it already has a temple and you upgrade that town first that may be your best option.
Nah, not worth losing my capital for slightly faster recruitment. Once I start recruiting I will be broke super quickly anyway, so I won't need fast recruitment regardless.
you should try and go for the island with the goldmine so if you get pushed off the mainland you still have a good economy and a good place to defend
Text seems much larger and easily readable on my phone this go around
Way better
Let me say 2 things. One, you should look into doing a FoTS with sharpshooters only. Two, I imagine this playthrough should be easier compared to some. I did an only camp with a friend once and he was rather annoyed at me for playing the Ikko. Having units that never route is a massive advantage. All being said, I love your videos :)
Better attempt than last one but this time you did worst in 1st battle. I think you are just rusty from long break from S2TW. Your dislike for dismounting units hurt you - most likely you would do much better with no or just 1 mounted unit outside. Also fighting enemy general outside in sea of yari ashigaru was suicidal (You wanted to get that morale penalty I get it but you know better to not allow anything with bonus vs cavalry to fight your cavalry). With 2 bodyguards (meaning 2 extra inspire to rotate) and Samurai retainers you could hammer and anvil inside castle those yari ashigaru and when enemy general would climb you could get back on horses and charge him with higher charge stats for win. Meanwhile your third unit could just kite some enemies around and occasionally buff unit inside.
But that just food for thought. You have some strong habits - just happened this situation didn't favour them this time.
Also interesting conundrum regarding upgrade options for Echizen specialty resource. Difficult to say what would be better suited for this walkthrough.
Best Regards and keep up the good work!
Yup, It's done the job I can read shit quite clearly now even on mobile, Nice! A link to the mod would be nice so we can get it aswell.
Oh yeah, forgot to add that, will do now.
Sweet!
Would it be possible to dismount the generals in the castle and have them fight there?
It would and it would lead to better result that what Donkey did. He carefully microed defeat from jaws of victory...
I often pray someone takes them(the ikko ikki)out early on(usually the Hatori do) cus their endless stacks are annoying AF later on. 🙄
nice hold!
Warrior monks rules!
I downloaded fall of the samurai first😂 and its weird for me seeing the normal shogun 2 main menu background
Hey please give us some close ups of your units fights
You’re my Sensei.
I think it is a lot better
Hi i am a fans of yours. I have attempted this challenge myself.
drive.google.com/file/d/1Q6EzLaEVwxhnG7R8OPPuq3rV3oymhqBK/view?usp=sharing
I kept the initial units given. Truth to be told , i dont think it is viable to do it without initial army. Your power level is how much AI will respect your, Being feeble will invite war declaration and AI refusal to make trade with you.
I played countless of legendary domination campaign myself ( usually total map domination between turn 60 to 80ish). So i pretty much got the AI behaviour covered.
However i think i might be possible to do this without initial units in non legendary campaign. (Just guessing since i only play legendary campaign )
If you truly want to attempt this without initial units, i could only think of 1 way. Just send send your general to siege town early on , run the timer up. Repeat this for few turns ,vassal the town and move to next. It takes some rng for this to work because 1 light cavalry unit in enemy town will make your siege fail. Having vassal will make AI less likely to attack you as their power level is added to you (i assume so) during their war declaration judgement.
I managed to reach turns 11 with over 10k koku in bank , 3 provinces. Can recruit warrior monk in kaga only (because i did a mistake in delaying yari drill building in echizen by 2 turns due to my habit).
I hope my suggestion helps. Like your videos
My approach:
1. In first 3 turns, I made sakai, takaoka and hatano my vassal for 3 free yari units (because 3 of them are allied)
2. I squeezed money from (jinbo, asai and hattori after hattori eliminated asai which i predicted due to my experience)
3. After i beat hatano, i moved back my army toward Noto direction to get additional farm.
4. My tech tree : Research up to zen first, because there is no use having yari drill early, might as well go for eco;Go for encampment tech tree next.
5. Camp my army around( kaga, echizen and noto) and making my own provinces rebel for exp farming.
My plan/prediction:
1. I predicted hattori and takedo will soon expand toward to me, therefore i camp. I can beat them in siege defend easily.
2. I did a mistake in delaying yari drill building by 2 turns in echizen because it became my habit to only build bowman in that province.
3.After I have around 4 more monks , i will expand towards takeda region(right side ) and make echizen my wall to hold assault from left side.
4. I will demolish ninja den in kaga after i got encampment tech. I built it just to get ninja.
5. Generals skill tree , get rank 3 in strategist and then rank 3 in infantry leader.
I tried the challenge myself. Certainly it is very hard. At first, I abandoned Echizen so I can get Naginata monk faster, and it is easier to defend just Kaga with a Naginata Monk Garrison. I was able to get into Realm Divide. After that, progress was very slow since I had a small number of armies to work around with. Let's see if I can get the long campaign victory.
Please make a poll for 1080p vs 1440p!
I don't see why I would. 1440p is clearly the favourite, especially with the font mod, just check the comments.
m o n k
Would greatly help your diplomacy if you did it before you disband your units
That defeats the purpose of the challenge though, I'm not allowed to have those units, so keeping them until I've done my diplomacy to make myself appear stronger wouldn't be fair. It also wouldn't really matter as I can trade with everyone except the Saito anyway, and they never agree to trade as the Ikko Ikki on turn 1.
@@MrSmartDonkeyLP plenty of ways to argue it, but it's your challenge I'm happy watching it all go on either way. I figured the saito might actually talk to while you had them.
I thought I seen you do your diplomacy then get rid if them in the siege units only challenge but I could be wrong.
Die Yari-Ashigaru sind sehr gut wenn du deren Yari wand eröffnest da töten sie dir die gegner wie Fliegen weg !
Wow als ob er das nicht wüsste und als ob er deutsch kann RIP
@@xstrawarot bei sein letzten video hat mans gesehn das er es nichg benutzt hat
Und man kann diesen Satz auch übersetzen lassen du depp
@@miranali9434 knecht, der typ weiss was er macht
@@xstrawarot bitte halt einfach dein maul und geh mir nicht auf die nerven
Ok you can not play anything other than shogun2 lol
Gay