Thanks for watching! The treble might have helped, but I think there was more to the sound difference than just that. The break-up pattern was different as well.
@@petelamontmusic Oh I agree but if you are going to compare the two pedals you should adjust the eq so they match at least tonally otherwise it's not a fair comparison. I think everyone is saying belle because you had the Timmy set to sound like mud.
@@Guncho06 Part of that is also the difference in sound a few feet from the speaker vs what the mic hears right against it. What I was hearing was actually a lot more similar, but the microphone heard differently. I really liked the Timmy more when I was doing the recordings, but less when I was doing the editing.
I can't read that without picturing a facial expression. I liked the sound of the Timmy a lot more in the room than the recording, for what it's worth.
It's because of how he was using the EQ. The timmy's treble and bass controls are passive cut only, post gain and pre gain respectively. It doesn't make sense to start them at noon as you would on other overdrives. Because of that, the treble was pretty far back, which on low gain especially on this pedal, will produce a muffled sound as you stated. I have the paul timmy v3, and I leave the treble up completely at low gain, and I dial it back as I increase the gain knob usually.
Clipping button was in for this one, which tends to be the way that I like it better. I have tried both ways, but like the response of the button in version better.
I prefer the Belle as well... but the Timmy was set dark for most of the comparison. I'm pretty sure that the Timmy's EQs are cut only which means the EQ is flat when the knobs are all away clockwise
Both good pedals. I like that sort of pedal just on the break up point but I’d probably use one for the break up and drop the volume down slightly for clean rhythm then use one to drive the other for solos.
@@creativejamtracks677 Thanks, and yes, both are good pedals. You could totally use them in that way, one for clean rhythm tones and the other to drive solos depending on what colour you wanted for each. Thanks for your comments.
Yes they are quite different, because the color knob on the Belle is not a tree or control. As you turn the color knob cw it increase both the treble and some bass while leaving the mids scooped. The Timmy is just a treble control.
@@g.m.1672 I'm tempted to say no, but I don't want to mislead you, maybe I need to go into more detail with the pedal, maybe see if I can test that out.
@@g.m.1672 Here's a video of just the Belle that show the difference between it off and it bypassed in the signal chain. ua-cam.com/video/aymaLO4BEe0/v-deo.html
This video should be entitled “how to make the Timmy pedal sound like crap”.
belle is neutral at 12, timmy is neutral at max (5pm) bad comparison
Noted, thanks!
I think you need to turn the treble up on the Timmy to match.
Thanks for watching! The treble might have helped, but I think there was more to the sound difference than just that. The break-up pattern was different as well.
@@petelamontmusic Oh I agree but if you are going to compare the two pedals you should adjust the eq so they match at least tonally otherwise it's not a fair comparison. I think everyone is saying belle because you had the Timmy set to sound like mud.
@@Guncho06 Part of that is also the difference in sound a few feet from the speaker vs what the mic hears right against it. What I was hearing was actually a lot more similar, but the microphone heard differently. I really liked the Timmy more when I was doing the recordings, but less when I was doing the editing.
@@petelamontmusic You had all eq knobs on both pedals at 12 o'clock. It doesn't appear either were adjusted in any way.
Timmy sounds like a muffled fart
I can't read that without picturing a facial expression. I liked the sound of the Timmy a lot more in the room than the recording, for what it's worth.
It's because of how he was using the EQ. The timmy's treble and bass controls are passive cut only, post gain and pre gain respectively. It doesn't make sense to start them at noon as you would on other overdrives. Because of that, the treble was pretty far back, which on low gain especially on this pedal, will produce a muffled sound as you stated. I have the paul timmy v3, and I leave the treble up completely at low gain, and I dial it back as I increase the gain knob usually.
I preferred the Belle. Did you have the clipping button in or out? Have you tried it both ways? Thanks for a great video
Clipping button was in for this one, which tends to be the way that I like it better. I have tried both ways, but like the response of the button in version better.
@@petelamontmusic thanks for the response
I prefer the Belle as well... but the Timmy was set dark for most of the comparison. I'm pretty sure that the Timmy's EQs are cut only which means the EQ is flat when the knobs are all away clockwise
You did a really great job of matching the tones. 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 Thanks. It is appreciated 🎉 Which was YOIR favorite?
I like them both for different purposes. For me, I like the Timmy with a bit more gain and the Belle a little cleaner.
Belle is enigmatic
Both good pedals. I like that sort of pedal just on the break up point but I’d probably use one for the break up and drop the volume down slightly for clean rhythm then use one to drive the other for solos.
Great video by the way.
@@creativejamtracks677 Thanks, and yes, both are good pedals. You could totally use them in that way, one for clean rhythm tones and the other to drive solos depending on what colour you wanted for each. Thanks for your comments.
Yes they are quite different, because the color knob on the Belle is not a tree or control. As you turn the color knob cw it increase both the treble and some bass while leaving the mids scooped. The Timmy is just a treble control.
Yes, different tools for different tasks. Thanks for watching.
Belle seems to have more fidelity.
Definitely less compressed
Belle is the winner for me.
Me too actually, much more natural sounding.
@@petelamontmusic Is it color amp natural tone when bypassed? I'm bit obbessed about that in these days.
@@g.m.1672 I'm tempted to say no, but I don't want to mislead you, maybe I need to go into more detail with the pedal, maybe see if I can test that out.
@@petelamontmusic Thanks for your time.
@@g.m.1672 Here's a video of just the Belle that show the difference between it off and it bypassed in the signal chain. ua-cam.com/video/aymaLO4BEe0/v-deo.html