I like the new dreadnought, the hands look somewhat Telemon'y. Ork picks up the new weapon, slaps a bit of red on it and uses it AS IS. I like the new CSM box.... But why are there Space Marines I don't need in it. ;)
@Schmaglow what I'm saying is that it isn't codex legal. It's not wargear they can take so I can't stick the axe relic on anything but my terminator cap.
Definitely agree the lower launchers should be mounted on the power pack. Also I'll bet money we'll see so many Judge Dredd painted Arbites Kill Teams when they release.
Can we all take a minute to appreciate the absolute grimdarkness of the Cerberus? For when you absolutely have to have the biggest bang on the battlefield on a tank and don't really mind that the radiation the gun itself gives off will slowly kill it's own crew
I love that with the Arbites now and the Imperial Navy Boarders we have to sets of Kill Teams of essentially a niche faction, yet they have absolutely awesome and unique sculpts. I feel both of them are gonna be very big for people to use as kitbash or create new types of Imperial guard or sth.
The leader inquisitor could be used as a representative to different ordos, and g can oils have different bonuses fighting chaos, xenos, etc. and maybe some operatives could be radical assets like monke bots and even a daemonhost
I'd love to see updated plastic Titan Crew/Moderati & Princeps too. I always loved both the original Rogue Trader metal minis of Alan Perry and FW resin ones of Simon Egan.
I wasn't sure what was bothering me about those desolators and I didn't think it was the Moe five gun thing as I'm normally entirely down for some combiweapons even if they don't make much sense. However when you called them something made by Flash Gitz you nailed it to the wall. On an Ork they'd be spot on, Space Marines not so much. It'd be like a Sister of Battle toting a Tyranid Deathspitter. The factions thematic just clashes too much.
The concept of three-in-one guns feels really strange for the Primaris. Aren’t they supposed to be like the Eldar now, highly specialized squads that need to work harmoniously to achieve the greater result? Of course, I’ve never played table top, so someone correct me if I’m wrong.
I very much like the helmet on the Squad Leader of the Arbites. It reminds me of the old Rogue Trader/2nd Ed one from back in the day. Loved that model.
I think it is very funny and also very extra, and isn't that what a lot of Warhammer stuff is about? I do think that adornment could also work for Ultramarines (atleast if you remember that they should have a grecco-roman style going). Also the dude with the manacles and hood I imagine could very easily be converted into a chaos model. Slaanesh obviously.
Those rocket marines would have been more aestheticly pleasing in Gravis armor with the larger rocket pods being shoulder or back pack mounted. They could have kept them holding the little rocket rifle
That reference to Moe's multi-gun is 100% on the mark, I went into the reveals excited for the Warcry box, was not disappointed. Would have been nice to see an announcement showing melee options for some mk6 guys but oh well.
You know, I actually like the Desolators. Not sure what exactly it is exactly but something about a rack of missiles on a rifle stock is just fun sounding.
The unhelmeted head on the lieutenant is a proper callback to the sergeant head in the old rogue trader plastic imperial space marines box (look up the combat card for Lt Commander Chavez for an example)
Vashtor's "retinue" seems right to me. He's not a CSM, he's not a member of a legion, he's a chaos god prospect. He's not going to have CSM bodyguard's, he's going to have something like an Ad Mech techpriest would have. Some servitors/skitarii(cultists), some robots (oblitz), and some heavy support to back him up (daemon engine). I don't see him "going to war" i see him as going on artifact retrieval missions with an expendable guard.
I guess as a big fan of massively chunky guns ala Unreal Tournament or the newest Doom games I actually kind of like the Desolators. I like the ones with the four-shot missiles on top the most, though I can definitely see the appeal of just not installing the belt feed to reduce the clunkiness a bit. Also Kirioth makes a good point about outfitting these guys with heavier armor; I think that would've definitely made them more palatable to a lot of people.
The Missile Boys -> Stupid looking. The Arbites -> Best thing they revealed, even more interesting than the Vashtorr Box Vashtorr by himself -> Excited for the mini, but the rest is definitely "WEll let'S sell this shit in a box so we can get rid of it." Nobody needs that extra stuff. Soulshackle itself -> WEll...more terrain, I don't need Eldar. But I want the ARbites early.
I feel like the rocket marines needed to be the heavy intercessor rather than the standard one to balance the bulk of the guns out a bit, definitely bigger backpack; probably would have worked better if they were underslung and firing from the hip like heavy bolters or plasma cannons. ....That being said, for some Slaaneshi Havocs they're perfect.
The desolation squad is really weird. They didn't want to have the same aesthetic as hellblasters, which is just bigger plasma gun squad. They didn't want to go all in and have them be gravis like heavy intercessors which have better proportions with their guns. All honesty, picking up an intercessor box with a heavy weapon upgrade sprue from 30k would be a better fit than the desolation squad and probably cheaper too.
The StarCraft2 combined with Cyberpunk chunky missiles launchers while being insanely forward heavy. It just proves that Primairs are at a creative dead end. The dreadnought is amazing but the claws look too much like a rock mining machine.
Kill Team blew it out the park. I knew Arbites were coming from the minute they showed the Drone thing in the Rumour Engine. They are getting used for Necromunda.
Vashtorr is probably my favourite model in 40k besides maybe the harlequin death jester or the silent king. He’s DEFINITELY getting purchased and converted up into a Ctan Shard of the nightbringer or somethin to go nicely with my void dragon ctan
Oh, so Cawl finally got around to making Primaris Dark Reapers? Are there any Aspect warriors that the Primaris dont have an equivalent yet? Do we have a teleporting one?
I loved how they have makes the heavy weapons on the votan range they all looks nice and possible , this new primaris weapon look too cartoony even for a Ork I think
I've finally found my marmite. I really dig those goofy-ahh guns. I can't exactly say why, i can see exactly why you'd hate them. But i just love them.
Agree on all of these I'm a bit mad about the Space Cops because I JUST finished kitbashing a Knight Pilot for my first Imperial Knight and there's a lot of parts on these I would've loved to use
The main weapon is the multi launcher and the bigger missile tubes on the top are a fire and then dump the tube Leaving just the rocket part and the middle sensor part The extra middle tubes are optional
Those Arbites remind me of the time I asked to play a Space Marine in some forum pen and paper and wasn't allowed to and got offered to play as an Arbites. Well, they look badass today. Wouldn't mind it at all now. And those Judge Dredd vibes are just brilliant.
They shouldve just resized the firstborn over time. Pretty sure a gradual increase every year by a few percent would've brought us true scale firstborn already, and it would be a good way to get some more natural height differences into your army by mixing and matching old with new kits.
I'm all about the Arbites for this one- I still have a squad of OG metal ones floating around somewhere, so I think I might get a couple of these boxes just for fun.
the Desolators wouldn't have been bad if they had used the opportunity to introduce Primaris scale Terminator armor and mounted the missiles on the back/over the shoulder.
As I said over on Valrak's channel, the missile launchers just don't look like Imperium technology to me -- the entire aesthetic just feels off. I understand that Cawl is mixing things up and changing the ossified dynamics of Imperial tech somewhat, but it is usually variations on an established theme instead of totally out of left field departures from all that has gone before, and these things just don't look like any Imperial man portable launcher technology we have ever seen. I would have preferred a return to the magazine fed shoulder fired missile launcher designs that were seen back in the Horus Heresy era myself, playing up the idea that Cawl is unearthing or rediscovering the lost technologies of earlier Imperial epochs. Still, perhaps the design GW has gone with will grow on me over time. On the other hand, the Brutalis Dreadnought is a fine looking combat food blender unit. Send it thundering int the midst of the enemy army, and watch the fur (and limbs, and viscera) fly - what is not to like?
This was the first reveal in a while where literally nothing grabbed my attention. The dread is ok, the marines are continuing the Primaris theme of being ridiculous, the Dark Eldar don't really look any different from usual and even the arbites came out a bit meh. AoS is not my bag but the best of the reveal was the saurus and slann for me.
I'm really sad that the old deathwing are in this box...was hoping for new terminators as per all the rumours flying around...but maybe they are just clearing out stock before the new ones hit the store
I love how the Arbites still have a Judge Dredd vibe but have been changed to make them less 2000AD and more 40K with nice callbacks to the old Arbites models. Love the Sisters-style helmets, too.
Whatever team/designer/template they use for primaris is, it needs to change. Primaris - despite being the "face" of the company - are consistently coming up with the worst sculpts. The Marines themselves are pretty good, but so much of the aesthetics around them feel like GI Joe toys. You can only release universally disparaged models so much before you say that maybe you need to rethink the design language you're using. The fact that everything except Primaris seem to be getting banger updates solidifies that it isn't a GW-wide issue, it really is a Primaris issue.
I'ma be real, I think the "rocket launcher" with the 4 rocket tubes one doesn't look half bad at all, it has that Doom BMG shape to it, it's not TOO long and weirdly-proportioned like the other 2 variants, it's not so bad....but overall, yeah, it just felt like they just went and...taped together a bunch of rocket tubes together and call it a day. Is it a 3-man squad like Eradicators or squads like intercessors/hellblasters? I think it'd look a lot more...reasonable if it was a 3-man squad like Eradicators, making it a 10-man squad would seem so...silly, but I think that's the case...
As a dreadnought guy....the best part about the old weaponized wartombs was the ones.with banners...legio ultra....the redemptor would be better with a banner on its back, but not hard to custom
I think the only good thing I can say about the desolators is that they're not Gravis as I hate the hood which makes it look like they can't remove the helmet and that they didn't go mental adding a bunch of scope/sensors like with some of the phobos. I still don't like them but that's all the good I have to say about them.
Totally agree about the Desolation team, they'd probably look rad in gravis armour and the super frag/krak missiles on the back ala Terminators and cyclone missile launchers. I guess that's too much like Aggressors though...
The mechanicus are taking a page out of the orks book. Which I think is cool, creating new heavy weapons that don't require different armor set is neat. Saves on expenses, I guess. What's more expensive a new gun or a new power armor variant. But i do wonder what they do.
How do matey, Dreadnought - very cool (wish they would bring out something new for 30k) New Rocket Troops - not a great look (Convert using Gravis Armour )? New Arb-Bite-ies - very nice (would make some great 30k Lucifer Blacks conversions) love the content Hugs and stuff (No handcuffs of leather mask please)
Gods I'm loving those Arbites, even the crested helmet. The 2nd Ed metals were previewed in the first White Dwarf I owned way, way, way... way back in the day, and I've loved the aesthetic ever since. My only gripe is the lack of a coat for the leader, but I guess they're saving that for an Arbites HQ.
I think we can call out GW on the free T-shirt gun marines, considering how much a pack of these will cost (knowing GW pricing). Those guns are completely out of universe to me, for some reason they remind me of Halo.
Yeah the desolators should have been gravis for sure, at least the box brings some heavies to kitbash with. Also i need primaris doggos now, like a patrol box worth of them!
The multi-rocket launchers make me think of a mash-up between the Unreal Tournament Rocket Launcher and Doom's heavy rifle w/ missile pods. I agree they look ridiculous and probably should have been shoulder-mounted or underslung like old heavy weapons, but I also weirdly like them as is. And the Dread is just a banger that'll fir right in with my Axe & Shield Dreads.
The desolators will be fun to convert at least... Definitely using heavy intercessors as the base and putting some of those rockets on the packs... Or printing out desolators if I find a better print
What I find interesting about the Vash-Torr side of the box set is the general lack of actual Chaos Marines. A hint towards a larger participation of Dark Admech or Lost and the Damned? Though the set would be a lot more exciting with some kind of twisted dark admech infantry instead of the cultists. Also the chaos side isn't even a legal CSM force...
There's few neat things on these releases, though pretty much nothing for me aside from Drukhari upgrade sprue. Arbites are pretty much the big winners here, that's solid quality kit. Vashtorr kind of got screwed over by the box, not that ecxiting stuff. HH people got new thing which is neat. Redemptor melee variant is good to see since it's been so long without it. And I've got to agree with the new primaris gun being strange and really ork like. It really feels like it should be shoulder mounted or run by gravis armor or possibly both. Heck making them underslung like heavy bolter would have worked better.
I don't understand why they're beltfed? Do they have bolters attached or is the belt filled with mini rockets? What's the power cables for if it's beltfed?
Those weird gun thingy astartes look AMAZING for kitbashing. The amount of missile pods and ammunition belts is just *Chefs kiss* (the models when assembled normally look a bit underwhelming and janky though)
New new PRimaris Dreadnought... now with slight different. The new, new, new Primaris huge gun, gunners.. now with missiles and guns as tall as a Space Marine.. and to think of the sculpts rejected by GW in the past... to now let anything through..
@@Kirioth Oh Awesome ! 👍 Will be great to see you cover Warcry’s new box: « The Doggo War »!!! ( I mean Khorne Hound cosplayers VS Werewolf Vampires ; it’s a war of Doggos!!) 😂 Plus you missed those Jade Obelisk dudes previously, who give Tzeench some lovely tankiness !!!
The lieutenant actually has given me a ray of hope, in a small way it shows GW are still open to the idea of multi option plastic character kits that aren't 100% clip together monopose. Also totally agree on the missile launchers, really wish they had them shoulder mounted or at least had just used a Primaris version of the first born missile launcher.
I just started making my first Army for 40k I found it Ironic because they mentioned how the new dreadnought was reminiscent of the Blood Angels Dreadnought because I'm working on a Blood Angels Army lol
Those new marines do look odd but tempted to get the box for an addition to my Dark Angels army as one of the new successor chapters and those arbites well they just have to be bought
Regarding the new Kill Team box: I love the line on the Warhammer Community site " Your kill team can play Kill Team, while you are playing Kill Team". Also love the cop with the shackles and the leather "Pulp Fiction" hood. Although instead of scaring the Kabalite Warriors, he might actually excite them.
The Brutalis dreadnought is awesome. The Lt. is good, but should have come out several years ago. The missile guys look goofy, and would indeed be better if they were in Gravis armor.
I will get the Arbites models but how can you not have a problem with them not having armor for their torso? You know they're gonna get belly wounds every time.
I think the Desolation Squads missile rifle things would have looked better as over-the-shoulder weapons like the Devestator's Missile Launchers, then you could get away with having that much CHONK on a non-Gravis armour marine. I also think the helmets should have had sensors and scopes on them too.
I like the Dread (near perfect for a post-Heresy Iron Warrior conversion), I like the arbitrators (if you scrape off the insignia) and I like the Kabilites. The rest is terrible and really underlines just how little respect GW has for it's customers.
"JuSt HoW LiTtle ReSpEct GW HaS" oh please we are getting ready to head into a new edition with a whole slew of new models. Why would they blow their best models before they even announce the new edition. This comes across as whiny.
@@tarektechmarine8209 look I'm not a fan of the models, but whining over some stupid looking models is just as stupid. These will be forgotten by most people in a month. So why waste time being upset over it in the first place. The models on the back end of eighth were just as weak, but who gives a damn anymore.
I don't dislike arbites at all, but I feel like it's a bit redundant to have the new minis be made for the "human soldier" four times in a row. Dark Eldars had had so much potential for a kill team with units like khymeras, mandrakes, wyches, sslyth mercs or any killy abomination a Haemonculus could shit out, but instead we get an elf with a bird, again. Hate to be negative here but I wanted to voice my disappointment
The Arbites are so great. I've no idea what their 40k rules will look like but visually they'll slot into a SoB army very snugly, led by an Inquisitor of course.
"Some of them it just flat out looks like Flash Gitz designed it." Is it bad then that my first thought upon seeing the Desolation Marines was "Okay, but how would those guns look on a team of Flash Gitz/Lootas/Tank Bustas?"
I like the Arbites box for the opportunity to convert all of them to fill in a bunch of gaps for my Sister's army The sniper can become a vindicare, the loudhailer guy can become a Dialogus with a head swap, all the riot shield guys can swap taser bonks for power swords and boom, crusader squads. And now I have a mascot dog for my Sisters
The Primaris should have had one shoulder or back pack mounted rocket array and the small rockets should have been two hand held nerf launchers either as a gun or gauntlets.
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I like the new dreadnought, the hands look somewhat Telemon'y.
Ork picks up the new weapon, slaps a bit of red on it and uses it AS IS.
I like the new CSM box.... But why are there Space Marines I don't need in it. ;)
You think chaos will ever get a new dreadnaught model? or are we doomed to keep using the 20 year old one?
@@DeathSithe92 New BIGGER Helbrute. :D
Is this the last gasp of Primaris marines? Before GW releases MII.
@@rutgaurxi7314 Its NERF or NOTHING.
at least we finally have a primaris lieutenant.
About time! I can't believe it took this long!
The Primaris Lieutenant possibilities will be endless
I would love. LOVE a primaris lieutenant or captain with an axe for the iron hands.
@@wiccanthropy1956 can always use the space wolves lieutenant and just remove the wolfy bits
@Schmaglow what I'm saying is that it isn't codex legal. It's not wargear they can take so I can't stick the axe relic on anything but my terminator cap.
Definitely agree the lower launchers should be mounted on the power pack. Also I'll bet money we'll see so many Judge Dredd painted Arbites Kill Teams when they release.
I'd also expect some arbites painted in shiny metal like robocop
Thats basically the standard Arbites paint scheme so yeah, obviously.
I prefer if those lower launchers be a underbarrel attachment on a heavy bolt rifle that heavy intercessor carrry
GW should add a warning that Arbites Kill Teams should not be painted in all white...
Already on it
Can we all take a minute to appreciate the absolute grimdarkness of the Cerberus? For when you absolutely have to have the biggest bang on the battlefield on a tank and don't really mind that the radiation the gun itself gives off will slowly kill it's own crew
The Primaris Overcompensators look like they were designed by a comic artist from the 90s.
90's comic art is my fav that being said i can;t disagree with you
Very Rob Liefeld isn't it?
@@Spongemonkey26 At least they have feet.
@@Spongemonkey26 was just about to say adeptus liefeldus
@@Spongemonkey26 😂 you beat me to it. First thing I thought of was image comics youngbloods
I love that with the Arbites now and the Imperial Navy Boarders we have to sets of Kill Teams of essentially a niche faction, yet they have absolutely awesome and unique sculpts. I feel both of them are gonna be very big for people to use as kitbash or create new types of Imperial guard or sth.
Don’t forget the Starstriders
Now we just need an Inquisition killteam
@@grahamcarpenter691 yeeeeeeees
The leader inquisitor could be used as a representative to different ordos, and g can oils have different bonuses fighting chaos, xenos, etc. and maybe some operatives could be radical assets like monke bots and even a daemonhost
I'd love to see updated plastic Titan Crew/Moderati & Princeps too. I always loved both the original Rogue Trader metal minis of Alan Perry and FW resin ones of Simon Egan.
I wasn't sure what was bothering me about those desolators and I didn't think it was the Moe five gun thing as I'm normally entirely down for some combiweapons even if they don't make much sense. However when you called them something made by Flash Gitz you nailed it to the wall. On an Ork they'd be spot on, Space Marines not so much. It'd be like a Sister of Battle toting a Tyranid Deathspitter. The factions thematic just clashes too much.
The concept of three-in-one guns feels really strange for the Primaris. Aren’t they supposed to be like the Eldar now, highly specialized squads that need to work harmoniously to achieve the greater result? Of course, I’ve never played table top, so someone correct me if I’m wrong.
I very much like the helmet on the Squad Leader of the Arbites. It reminds me of the old Rogue Trader/2nd Ed one from back in the day. Loved that model.
I think it is very funny and also very extra, and isn't that what a lot of Warhammer stuff is about? I do think that adornment could also work for Ultramarines (atleast if you remember that they should have a grecco-roman style going).
Also the dude with the manacles and hood I imagine could very easily be converted into a chaos model. Slaanesh obviously.
Agree. That helmet is straight off early artwork. And really fits the grimdark ethos.
Yep, certainly is a nostalgia-bomb. It was always one of my faves from back in the day.
It's called Kill Team because whenever they drop a new set, the design team *KILLS* it every time. 10/10 love the models.
I wish they mounted those heavy weapons on a harness, kind of like Vasquez used in Aliens.
Those rocket marines would have been more aestheticly pleasing in Gravis armor with the larger rocket pods being shoulder or back pack mounted. They could have kept them holding the little rocket rifle
Other way around I think. Hold the big rocket launchers, and then have the smaller ones shoulder mounted
That reference to Moe's multi-gun is 100% on the mark, I went into the reveals excited for the Warcry box, was not disappointed. Would have been nice to see an announcement showing melee options for some mk6 guys but oh well.
You know, I actually like the Desolators. Not sure what exactly it is exactly but something about a rack of missiles on a rifle stock is just fun sounding.
Would have preferred gravis armor on them but I almost always prefer the bulkier armor on everything.
The unhelmeted head on the lieutenant is a proper callback to the sergeant head in the old rogue trader plastic imperial space marines box (look up the combat card for Lt Commander Chavez for an example)
Honestly the 1st/ 2nd edition model looks an awful lot better than this.
Vashtor's "retinue" seems right to me. He's not a CSM, he's not a member of a legion, he's a chaos god prospect. He's not going to have CSM bodyguard's, he's going to have something like an Ad Mech techpriest would have. Some servitors/skitarii(cultists), some robots (oblitz), and some heavy support to back him up (daemon engine).
I don't see him "going to war" i see him as going on artifact retrieval missions with an expendable guard.
I guess as a big fan of massively chunky guns ala Unreal Tournament or the newest Doom games I actually kind of like the Desolators. I like the ones with the four-shot missiles on top the most, though I can definitely see the appeal of just not installing the belt feed to reduce the clunkiness a bit. Also Kirioth makes a good point about outfitting these guys with heavier armor; I think that would've definitely made them more palatable to a lot of people.
The Missile Boys -> Stupid looking.
The Arbites -> Best thing they revealed, even more interesting than the Vashtorr Box
Vashtorr by himself -> Excited for the mini, but the rest is definitely "WEll let'S sell this shit in a box so we can get rid of it." Nobody needs that extra stuff.
Soulshackle itself -> WEll...more terrain, I don't need Eldar. But I want the ARbites early.
I feel like the rocket marines needed to be the heavy intercessor rather than the standard one to balance the bulk of the guns out a bit, definitely bigger backpack; probably would have worked better if they were underslung and firing from the hip like heavy bolters or plasma cannons.
....That being said, for some Slaaneshi Havocs they're perfect.
My 2 cents; I love the desolators, they remind me of DOOM rocket launchers! xD
The desolation squad guns look like t-shirt launchers at a 40k football game
Space Marines: Bolter, Bolter, Bolter, Heavy Bolter, Twin-linked Bolter.
Primaris Space Marines™️: Bolter, Bolter, *STUBBER*
The desolation squad is really weird. They didn't want to have the same aesthetic as hellblasters, which is just bigger plasma gun squad. They didn't want to go all in and have them be gravis like heavy intercessors which have better proportions with their guns. All honesty, picking up an intercessor box with a heavy weapon upgrade sprue from 30k would be a better fit than the desolation squad and probably cheaper too.
The StarCraft2 combined with Cyberpunk chunky missiles launchers while being insanely forward heavy. It just proves that Primairs are at a creative dead end. The dreadnought is amazing but the claws look too much like a rock mining machine.
The so-called "Close Combat" Dreadnought has five different guns on it, I'm not sure if it's any more "Close Combat" than the Redemptor.
I honestly like the Desolation Marines. Looks like something out of a Liefeld comic and I love over the top shit in 40k.
Shit taste.
Kill Team blew it out the park. I knew Arbites were coming from the minute they showed the Drone thing in the Rumour Engine. They are getting used for Necromunda.
Vashtorr is probably my favourite model in 40k besides maybe the harlequin death jester or the silent king. He’s DEFINITELY getting purchased and converted up into a Ctan Shard of the nightbringer or somethin to go nicely with my void dragon ctan
Those desolators are so idiotic I can't believe they actually exist. We went from grimdark to... This. What a shame...
I love the arbiters because they look like great kitbashes materials to make scouts
They could have just modernised the heavy bolter and so on and that would have been brilliant. Primaris Devastators.
Oh, so Cawl finally got around to making Primaris Dark Reapers? Are there any Aspect warriors that the Primaris dont have an equivalent yet? Do we have a teleporting one?
I loved how they have makes the heavy weapons on the votan range they all looks nice and possible , this new primaris weapon look too cartoony even for a Ork I think
I've finally found my marmite. I really dig those goofy-ahh guns. I can't exactly say why, i can see exactly why you'd hate them. But i just love them.
Why would the indirect fire rockets be attached as underslung with a belt from the backpack, instead of directly on the backpack?
The kill team box looks like a banger!
Agree on all of these
I'm a bit mad about the Space Cops because I JUST finished kitbashing a Knight Pilot for my first Imperial Knight and there's a lot of parts on these I would've loved to use
Meanwhile, AoS looking great with new Lizardmen sculpts!
Thanks for the serious light recommendation - I've been looking for a lamp upgrade for a while now, I will certainly check them out!
The main weapon is the multi launcher and the bigger missile tubes on the top are a fire and then dump the tube
Leaving just the rocket part and the middle sensor part
The extra middle tubes are optional
Those Arbites remind me of the time I asked to play a Space Marine in some forum pen and paper and wasn't allowed to and got offered to play as an Arbites. Well, they look badass today. Wouldn't mind it at all now. And those Judge Dredd vibes are just brilliant.
They shouldve just resized the firstborn over time. Pretty sure a gradual increase every year by a few percent would've brought us true scale firstborn already, and it would be a good way to get some more natural height differences into your army by mixing and matching old with new kits.
I'm all about the Arbites for this one- I still have a squad of OG metal ones floating around somewhere, so I think I might get a couple of these boxes just for fun.
the Desolators wouldn't have been bad if they had used the opportunity to introduce Primaris scale Terminator armor and mounted the missiles on the back/over the shoulder.
The rocket squad looks like when I first started building Warhammer. I want to do a conversion and I put a vehicle gun on one of my guys.
As I said over on Valrak's channel, the missile launchers just don't look like Imperium technology to me -- the entire aesthetic just feels off. I understand that Cawl is mixing things up and changing the ossified dynamics of Imperial tech somewhat, but it is usually variations on an established theme instead of totally out of left field departures from all that has gone before, and these things just don't look like any Imperial man portable launcher technology we have ever seen. I would have preferred a return to the magazine fed shoulder fired missile launcher designs that were seen back in the Horus Heresy era myself, playing up the idea that Cawl is unearthing or rediscovering the lost technologies of earlier Imperial epochs. Still, perhaps the design GW has gone with will grow on me over time.
On the other hand, the Brutalis Dreadnought is a fine looking combat food blender unit. Send it thundering int the midst of the enemy army, and watch the fur (and limbs, and viscera) fly - what is not to like?
i think they tried to replicate the roket-launchers that the Votann Hearthguard have, but they wanted to distinguish them somehow...?
This was the first reveal in a while where literally nothing grabbed my attention. The dread is ok, the marines are continuing the Primaris theme of being ridiculous, the Dark Eldar don't really look any different from usual and even the arbites came out a bit meh. AoS is not my bag but the best of the reveal was the saurus and slann for me.
Primaris before this had at least reason, this is just....
Wow, those Arbites models are superb! Love all of them, and the one with an eagle on the helmet too.)
I'm really sad that the old deathwing are in this box...was hoping for new terminators as per all the rumours flying around...but maybe they are just clearing out stock before the new ones hit the store
I think the only way to get those guns working on marines is if you put them on some sort of a squad of techmarines that look steampunky.
Nice to see a Dreadnought that decided not to skip leg day.
I love how the Arbites still have a Judge Dredd vibe but have been changed to make them less 2000AD and more 40K with nice callbacks to the old Arbites models. Love the Sisters-style helmets, too.
A nice girthy tanke makes the Imperium go round. Nice video. Keep up the good work.
Those arbites got me questioning my commitment to saving money
Whatever team/designer/template they use for primaris is, it needs to change. Primaris - despite being the "face" of the company - are consistently coming up with the worst sculpts. The Marines themselves are pretty good, but so much of the aesthetics around them feel like GI Joe toys. You can only release universally disparaged models so much before you say that maybe you need to rethink the design language you're using.
The fact that everything except Primaris seem to be getting banger updates solidifies that it isn't a GW-wide issue, it really is a Primaris issue.
I'ma be real, I think the "rocket launcher" with the 4 rocket tubes one doesn't look half bad at all, it has that Doom BMG shape to it, it's not TOO long and weirdly-proportioned like the other 2 variants, it's not so bad....but overall, yeah, it just felt like they just went and...taped together a bunch of rocket tubes together and call it a day. Is it a 3-man squad like Eradicators or squads like intercessors/hellblasters? I think it'd look a lot more...reasonable if it was a 3-man squad like Eradicators, making it a 10-man squad would seem so...silly, but I think that's the case...
I like the Wrath of the Soul Forge Box set a lot, I'd paint the Dark Angels as Renegade Marines, they are probably easier to paint than regular CSM.
I can see those rocket guys going the same way as that bunker model and the sitting giant gun contraption...never being used.
As a dreadnought guy....the best part about the old weaponized wartombs was the ones.with banners...legio ultra....the redemptor would be better with a banner on its back, but not hard to custom
I hope, hope, hope they release some kind of bikes for the Arbites! Preferably jet-bike. A Judge NEEDS his Lawmaster!
I think the only good thing I can say about the desolators is that they're not Gravis as I hate the hood which makes it look like they can't remove the helmet and that they didn't go mental adding a bunch of scope/sensors like with some of the phobos. I still don't like them but that's all the good I have to say about them.
Not gonna mention the rockets that you fire from your hands like an apache would, imagine the person standing behind that.......
Totally agree about the Desolation team, they'd probably look rad in gravis armour and the super frag/krak missiles on the back ala Terminators and cyclone missile launchers. I guess that's too much like Aggressors though...
Oh I remember those guys, I had some in pewter. Always loved their shotguns and helmets.
The mechanicus are taking a page out of the orks book. Which I think is cool, creating new heavy weapons that don't require different armor set is neat. Saves on expenses, I guess. What's more expensive a new gun or a new power armor variant. But i do wonder what they do.
How do matey, Dreadnought - very cool (wish they would bring out something new for 30k) New Rocket Troops - not a great look (Convert using Gravis Armour )? New Arb-Bite-ies - very nice (would make some great 30k Lucifer Blacks conversions) love the content Hugs and stuff (No handcuffs of leather mask please)
Gods I'm loving those Arbites, even the crested helmet. The 2nd Ed metals were previewed in the first White Dwarf I owned way, way, way... way back in the day, and I've loved the aesthetic ever since. My only gripe is the lack of a coat for the leader, but I guess they're saving that for an Arbites HQ.
I think we can call out GW on the free T-shirt gun marines, considering how much a pack of these will cost (knowing GW pricing). Those guns are completely out of universe to me, for some reason they remind me of Halo.
Yeah the desolators should have been gravis for sure, at least the box brings some heavies to kitbash with. Also i need primaris doggos now, like a patrol box worth of them!
The multi-rocket launchers make me think of a mash-up between the Unreal Tournament Rocket Launcher and Doom's heavy rifle w/ missile pods. I agree they look ridiculous and probably should have been shoulder-mounted or underslung like old heavy weapons, but I also weirdly like them as is.
And the Dread is just a banger that'll fir right in with my Axe & Shield Dreads.
The desolators will be fun to convert at least... Definitely using heavy intercessors as the base and putting some of those rockets on the packs... Or printing out desolators if I find a better print
Just seems easier and cheaper to buy recasts or prints of the HH era versions, instead of this vomit.
What I find interesting about the Vash-Torr side of the box set is the general lack of actual Chaos Marines. A hint towards a larger participation of Dark Admech or Lost and the Damned? Though the set would be a lot more exciting with some kind of twisted dark admech infantry instead of the cultists. Also the chaos side isn't even a legal CSM force...
There's few neat things on these releases, though pretty much nothing for me aside from Drukhari upgrade sprue.
Arbites are pretty much the big winners here, that's solid quality kit.
Vashtorr kind of got screwed over by the box, not that ecxiting stuff.
HH people got new thing which is neat.
Redemptor melee variant is good to see since it's been so long without it.
And I've got to agree with the new primaris gun being strange and really ork like. It really feels like it should be shoulder mounted or run by gravis armor or possibly both. Heck making them underslung like heavy bolter would have worked better.
I'm pretty hyped for the arbites, might do a couple Scion beret head-swaps though.
I don't understand why they're beltfed? Do they have bolters attached or is the belt filled with mini rockets? What's the power cables for if it's beltfed?
Yeah, looks like the lower part of the gun fires small rockets and they are belt fed
Those weird gun thingy astartes look AMAZING for kitbashing. The amount of missile pods and ammunition belts is just *Chefs kiss* (the models when assembled normally look a bit underwhelming and janky though)
New new PRimaris Dreadnought... now with slight different. The new, new, new Primaris huge gun, gunners.. now with missiles and guns as tall as a Space Marine.. and to think of the sculpts rejected by GW in the past... to now let anything through..
Are the new Desolation marines equipped with the Annihilator 2000 from Beverly Hills Cop 3 or the zf1 from 5th Element?
Will you cover the Warhammer AoS and Warcry stuff?
Would love to know what you think !! 🤔
Yep! It'll most likely go out tomorrow morning but I'll be recording it this afternoon :)
@@Kirioth Oh Awesome ! 👍
Will be great to see you cover Warcry’s new box: « The Doggo War »!!! ( I mean Khorne Hound cosplayers VS Werewolf Vampires ; it’s a war of Doggos!!) 😂
Plus you missed those Jade Obelisk dudes previously, who give Tzeench some lovely tankiness !!!
Time to design some shoulder fired missile launchers for 3D printing.
The lieutenant actually has given me a ray of hope, in a small way it shows GW are still open to the idea of multi option plastic character kits that aren't 100% clip together monopose. Also totally agree on the missile launchers, really wish they had them shoulder mounted or at least had just used a Primaris version of the first born missile launcher.
For most chapters I can see why they don't work, however as an Iron Hands fan these are gas
Love the Arbites - and the hat is glorious!
I just started making my first Army for 40k I found it Ironic because they mentioned how the new dreadnought was reminiscent of the Blood Angels Dreadnought because I'm working on a Blood Angels Army lol
Those new marines do look odd but tempted to get the box for an addition to my Dark Angels army as one of the new successor chapters and those arbites well they just have to be bought
Regarding the new Kill Team box: I love the line on the Warhammer Community site " Your kill team can play Kill Team, while you are playing Kill Team".
Also love the cop with the shackles and the leather "Pulp Fiction" hood. Although instead of scaring the Kabalite Warriors, he might actually excite them.
The Brutalis dreadnought is awesome. The Lt. is good, but should have come out several years ago. The missile guys look goofy, and would indeed be better if they were in Gravis armor.
I will get the Arbites models but how can you not have a problem with them not having armor for their torso? You know they're gonna get belly wounds every time.
I think the Desolation Squads missile rifle things would have looked better as over-the-shoulder weapons like the Devestator's Missile Launchers, then you could get away with having that much CHONK on a non-Gravis armour marine. I also think the helmets should have had sensors and scopes on them too.
I like the Dread (near perfect for a post-Heresy Iron Warrior conversion), I like the arbitrators (if you scrape off the insignia) and I like the Kabilites.
The rest is terrible and really underlines just how little respect GW has for it's customers.
"JuSt HoW LiTtle ReSpEct GW HaS" oh please we are getting ready to head into a new edition with a whole slew of new models. Why would they blow their best models before they even announce the new edition. This comes across as whiny.
@@greenn992 more so the models themselves, everything is fine, it's just more SILLY, just give the customer s.h.i.t.e. Cause here you are, eating it.
@@tarektechmarine8209 look I'm not a fan of the models, but whining over some stupid looking models is just as stupid. These will be forgotten by most people in a month. So why waste time being upset over it in the first place. The models on the back end of eighth were just as weak, but who gives a damn anymore.
@@greenn992 It's more exasperation than being upset. But please keep on defending GW shitty sculpts and shitty practices.
I'm just SO excited for the new Seraphon!
The new dread,.i want to give it claws and paint it as a death company dread
They look like cartoon guns 2x the size they should be.
If you remove the missile feeder belt and think really hard about Unreal Tournament missile launcher, then the sergeant version is pretty cool!
I don't dislike arbites at all, but I feel like it's a bit redundant to have the new minis be made for the "human soldier" four times in a row. Dark Eldars had had so much potential for a kill team with units like khymeras, mandrakes, wyches, sslyth mercs or any killy abomination a Haemonculus could shit out, but instead we get an elf with a bird, again. Hate to be negative here but I wanted to voice my disappointment
I agree about the Dreadnaught. Like this move away from them being so “low res” if you will.
The Arbites are so great. I've no idea what their 40k rules will look like but visually they'll slot into a SoB army very snugly, led by an Inquisitor of course.
I can see that. It would in fact work quite well with the 3.5 Witch Hunters Codex.
Well, the Arbites were slightly influenced, shall we say, by Judge Dredd…they’ve even kept the eagle shoulder pad…
"Some of them it just flat out looks like Flash Gitz designed it." Is it bad then that my first thought upon seeing the Desolation Marines was "Okay, but how would those guns look on a team of Flash Gitz/Lootas/Tank Bustas?"
I like the Arbites box for the opportunity to convert all of them to fill in a bunch of gaps for my Sister's army
The sniper can become a vindicare, the loudhailer guy can become a Dialogus with a head swap, all the riot shield guys can swap taser bonks for power swords and boom, crusader squads. And now I have a mascot dog for my Sisters
The Primaris should have had one shoulder or back pack mounted rocket array and the small rockets should have been two hand held nerf launchers either as a gun or gauntlets.