Great video that really showcases what this pedal can do. Well done guys, the Trio Plus remains one of my favourite purchases of the last few years and you guys nailed why. Look forward to more videos…👌👍
There's been a lot of looper pedals released since the Digitech Trio + and I've seen the videos of all of them are some of them better? Well i guess that's subjective but I personally love this looper and I don't believe I've ever seen anyone have this much fun with any looper on UA-cam. These guy's really show off how pleasing this looper can be. This thing really is a powerhouse. Thanks guy's
@1953purdie you nailed it on all points here. There have been lots of looper and band in the box products launched since the Trio+, it is impressive how well it holds up today. This is a really powerful and easy to use looper. You are also right about how much fun we had with this. We are just guys that love to play and this let us play in some new ways. Thanks for joining the dialog here.
I bought this unit over a year ago and have yet to really try it out. Looked it up and saw this vid and now am going to give it a whirl. Thanks for reviewing this and some of the features.
That is great to hear @mmiller6873 This pedal has so much potential for practicing, writing, or performance. We hope that you find a good way to get lots out of your Trio+!
Excellent demonstration! I have had mine a couple years now. Play all classic rock and some County cover tunes on my weekend solo/duo gigs. That footswitch is a must. Saves wear and tear on the pedal too. Once you get to understand how to teach it. You can do a lot.
One can use more SD cards? I would play jazz Standards, on live gigs. In the first round I would sing and play rythmn guitar, then some solos over the "band". Is that possible?
Hey Sean, did I learn any new about this pedal.... No, but, what I loved about your video is how you presented and showed the basic features... It also didn't hurt you had 2 of my favorite you tubers as well. Keep it up!
This not only is a great demo video of a versatile guitar pedal but also a wonderful musical experience for your audience. Such soulful playing, guys. Thank you!
I have had this pedal for about 7 years now, and it’s a great practice tool that keeps me inspired. I do feel that a software update is needed though (understandably Digitech were “dead” for a while).
Great to hear from a long-time Trio+ user. @jimmcdougall9973 thanks for sharing your experience and specifically how you use it. I know DigiTech mentioned that some firmware updates are coming soon, I suspect it will continue to improve.
I'm pretty sure nothing in the "3/4" part of things was actually 3/4. He started in 6/8 but I think the "band" was in a swung 4. But what I want to know is does it do real 6/8? That's the time signature I need most
I've had my band in a box for several years. I learned more watching you guys play with it than all the years I've owned it. Hopefully now I'll go off into different tangents and be more creative with it. Thank you guys!
I'm a solo musician and this will take me to the next level. Seems like I've been waiting for this device all my life. Hope they sell this in South Africa. It's great!
These are cool, but I wonder one through a guitar channel a few years ago and never really figured it out intuitively. This video is one of the most informative “how to” videos I’ve seen, and definitely the most FUN video I’ve seen with it! Thanks and Great job!
Great video - thanks to all three of you. There must be something wrong with me because I find it difficult to use. I guess if I played with it for 8 or 9 years, then I'd begin to understand how everything works (ha)
This can be complex for sure. We decided to really focus on the basics and loved what it can do without us trying to use every bell & whistle. Once we got used to playing simple to train the unit and learned the basics we found it very useful and not too tough to get rolling with. If you try to do everything that it can do I think it would have taken us a while as well.
I use mine with a boss micro br 80 8 track to get the drums to follow me rather than other way around ( if i were using a conventional drum machine) and generally swap out the bass line for my own.....also use it as a stand alone practice tool same as you guys were doing.... great vid!
So far the most awesome vid on this product and J.L.Jay, a masterly himself again. Having the Trio+ myself, this vid gave me a re-motivation boost all over. Thank you guys, awesome 👌🎶
You run the "band" part into the amp's fx loop (or an frfr cab/pa etc) and the guitar out into the front of your amp. If you use pedals, you run them through the Trio + fx loop, so you can have a clean sound when you teach the band. There are some UA-cam videos that show how to connect it up, if you're not sure. Check out That Pedal Guy on here. He has several really informative videos on all aspects of using the Trio+.
I simply (&) freaky love this pedal !!!! 🙂👌🎸 An ordinary loop pedal was not what I was looking for , too boring !!!! But , a few years ago I found this pedal , and .... holy mushroom .... I no longer need to play or create the drums and bass myself , or I no longer need a drummer & bass player either , so as a result , I simply fired them then , just like that !!!! 😁
I bought one a few years ago & it's Horsham 😅 I bought it to play with a top drummer from the 1970s & 80s. I must dig it out again. You do only have a very limited amount of slots from one memory card, but it is like having your own band. I must try it with keyboards. 😎👍
the sequencing part of it is great ONCE you understand how to do it as the manual doesn't tell u all you need to know, interestingly it will also link the parts so even if the feel is different, it will make them all consistent, you can fit 12 songs on the sd card and with the added foot pedal you can stop the bass or drums or go up to next part etc, The bass line can be changed to from root progressions to 5th I think so you can have quite a lot of variety with that and the alt time button, it's a head warp figuring it out but once you do you can have a load of fun writing a complete song intro, verse, bridge, chorus end etc , you need to write down what you want and sequence it and have it sheeted so you know when everythings coming in as it can be tricky remembering it... all the tracks can be dropped into the computer and stored too, several sd cards and you could have a good live set... with just yourself.
Thanks for sharing your insights, that is super helpful and I am sure others that view this video will appreciate it. Indeed there is a learning curve on this unit since it does so much. We appreciate your providing your insights here.
I've been using this pedal for quite a while and i love it! I play smooth jazz and jazz rock arrangements on this device using powered arrays and a mixing board. It sounds fantastic when engineered properly! I play 4 gigs a month and just like the guy said here, my sets are on chips! The auduence lives the tunes and i love the lack of headaches! My only suggestion is that Digitech should have designed this with three separated physical trs outputs. It would give more control over the summed out of the bass and drums in the mix.
I love the Trio+, bought it during the pandemic for live from the basement performances. It's an awesome tool for a one man band or as a practice tool.
Great video. My man at the end was having fun. I do not really see the Trio as a reliable performance tool- at all. In a pinch maybe but it will overwrite saved presets. Maybe you could have multiple SD cards and just playback. It would be nice if you could use the SD card to playback on a PC or tablet but I don't think that is an option. Very clearly, the Trio+ is an excellent tool for getting your ideas down and having fun. Beyond that, it falls a little short. Hopefully a future version or competing product will fully exploit the potential of this magic box. It is a lot of fun to play around with. Maybe a new produ ct can add Keys or other instruments- allow for key changes; more I/O; more rythyms, etc. Using the Parts or Seq. how do you connect all parts together? I have not explored that yet. So I have part one- will part two automatically start when part 1 is done? Do I have to hit any buttons? Also, I think that click track only works once or for part 1. Again, this unit has potential but is not fully baked if you want to use it as a more serious tool. It should also have an online editor. Tip: The Drums/Cymbals sound 100 times better with studio monitors with tweeters vs. guitar amp which sounds muddy.
@@NoFearGuitarGear Can you share any tips on how to use the Parts or Seq. section? So I record and save one part...then what? Nothing complicated- just any simple tip would help.
Une fois tes sequences faite . Jusqu a 5 sequences de 230 secondes.. tu appuis sur le bouton seq .... et aprés tu appui sur tes parties ...exemple si tu veux 2 fois ta 1er partie tu appui 2 fois dessus ect ect ... une fois fait si tu rappuie sur le bouton seq . Le trio te fera voir ta programmation de tes parties en clignotant . ou si tu appuis sur le footwich de droite aprés ta programmation il fera pareil pour te faire voir l ordre et le nombre de partie que tu as programmées.en clignotant .... aprés tu rappuis et cela part ......vive la musique....bye de france . 🎸🎶
I think they put these out 5 or 6 yrs ago, I tried to get one but they took em out of the market and wanted to remake em. I guess they did right cause what your showing is some killer funky blues bass riffs. Were all used to drum machines , but man, to have a bass to jam along with all the time would be incredible! I suppose this is unlike the flood of pedals out there and costs a pretty penny or two. I have to have one
Had one for years, the trick in 'learn' mode is to keep the chords simple (triads work well) - it can get confused with extensions. Also when strumming to get the essentials of the rhythm rather than play the full pattern. When you come to play the loop actual part you can revert to the song parts.
SPJ, this pedal holds a lot of potential and although not a teal band it can help song writers ! And perfect for one man Band,. I'm going to talk myself into buying one!!! Just hope you guys have Merry Christmas and I'm going to see why this Pedal Didn't come into my in box from your Mail List?? SPJ TY guys God Bless & Merry Christmas 🎄⛄🙏❤️✌️🌎🫂🌍
I don't think that you could use vocal to "teach" the Trio+, but you could benefit from the backing band as a vocalist after the songs are defined. As for MIDI files, there is likely a way but not something that we tested.
@@NoFearGuitarGear ok so would I be able to play some simple Strings or pluck cords from my usb piano 🎹 keyboard? Does the system pick up things like that kind of like what you would use to make beats as a producer? Because I don’t know how to play the guitar, but I could play some keys? But for singers, this would open up a whole New World.
@@byoflive We have not tested this ourselves, but we did a little research and with a keyboard the answer is yes. The key is that you would need to use basic chords so the bass part can follow correctly, then but the more complex chords on top of the rhythm section. As far using stringed instruments, we could not find any info on anyone directly trying that, so we can not say for sure. It does seem like it would work, it is just a matter of finding a way to give the Trio+ the basic chord or note structure to teach it. If you play basic parts (single notes / basic triad chords) it should work. Maybe someone else will come along in the comments with more direct experience, but we hope that this helps.
My worry about this clever device is how useful it would be on stage without someone twiddling the knobs for me. You alluded to this at the end of your video, but didn't go into how to do it. I am not great with technology, so a follow-on video on how to do this would help me greatly. Thanks.
We think it is correct to say that this might not be the best tool for live performance in many cases. You can use an SD card to save your loops and beats, so it is possible to build it all in advance and just start the backing band and any looping that you saved. It can work, but the people that we have been talking to that have the pedal and love it all seem to use it for practice, song writing and general inspiration. We are working on a new video where we go deeper, do watch for that.
Questions : Why does it not have a click track to begin with? The reason I say that is, what if your timing wavers in the first learning phase, does it automatically quantize or something? So the other parts are locked to that original tempo timing? How many guitar parts upon guitar parts can you loop? ( not separate parts of the song ). How many 'songs' can you save and ultimately how much recording minutes does it have total? Can it really do 3/4? Your demonstration suggested it was not really 3/4?
@neil-aspinall question 1 … just like a human band, the player(s) have to ‘show’ or ‘teach’ the “drummer” the tempo for new loops. i.e., the trio has to have a reference. however, if you’re just writing another “part” for the same “song” (you can write up to 5 parts per song, and up to 12 songs per sd card), you can engage the click & it will default to the same tempo as the previous ‘part’, as the trio assumes the new part will be combined with the previous part into the same song. … if that makes sense. but brand new parts’ tempos done like this are not adjustable the way you probably want them to be (more on that below). imo, for each new part that’s not part of a song already in development, it’s best to teach the trio the tempo directly. question 2 … if your timing waivers, the trio will do its best to guess the tempo & meter and quantize accordingly. it’s not 100% accurate at correcting the player’s mistakes. it’s best to use a clean, simple, rhythmically accurate foundational/reference progression to ‘teach’ the trio’s drum & bass parts. you can use an online metronome or free phone app as accompaniment to help. question 3 … the other parts are locked into a tempo, to a point. that is, you can always speed up or slow down bass & drum parts, as well as any already recorded guitar layers - on the fly - and all will be ‘time stretched’ accordingly & remain in sync with one another when the tempo is changed manually. caveats: tempo adjustments are global - they affect every “part” on the unit proportionately while the tempo knob is abnormal, not just the part you’re messing with at the time. also, to record a new guitar layer, the tempo knob must be in the normal (noon) position with the green led off - indicating time stretching is not engaged. in fact, the trio will not let you engage the looper for a new guitar layer if time stretching is engaged. the green light will blink reminding you to return the tempo to normal before recording a new layer can take place. you can also create any part at whatever tempo you want … even if you combine them into the same song later, each part will retain its own tempo instead of all conforming to one master tempo within a song. question 4 … I’ve found no limit to the number of layers I can loop onto the same part. I suppose there could be memory limits with sd cards, but I’ve recorded loops with more than a dozen parts without any issues. maybe keep in mind though that because all the inputs & outputs on the trio are mono/TS, and despite being 24 bit & 44.1 khz sample rate, too many layers can get muddy. and you’d have to regulate the volume/tone of each guitar layer by various means as you’re looping it to ensure each layer sits well in the loop's overall mix. i've found this fairly easy to do. question 4 … you can write up to 5 parts per song, and up to 12 songs per sd card. question 5 … (from the manual) … "maximum recording time: 230 seconds per song part - based on a minimum 50 bpm and 48 bars per part." i always use parts as individual loops instead of combing parts into songs. i.e., i have 60 independent loops on my unit at any given time (5 parts x 12 songs = 60 parts/loops total) so i can't speak to time constraints with regard to assembling songs from parts. but the manual's math would suggest [a] 230 minutes total 'recording' time (230 seconds x 5 parts x 12 songs = 230 minutes) and [ b] no song length limits. question 6 … yes it can really do ¾ hope all that helps. i love my unit. it keeps me inspired. there was a learning curve but so glad i stuck with it. it's pretty amazing & lots of fun. i also use it as 'scratch pad' for riffs & progressions before moving into my daw for production. very handy. you can pick up a used one online for ~$200. cheers.
Great video, thanks. I just bought a second hand one online. Well, I thought I did… turned out it was just the Trio, without the +, so no looper. Oh well, it’s still an awesome bit of kit! I still haven’t figured out how to do extra parts and have just focussed on simple songs without choruses etc. Or how to save. I will persevere, though. While it’s great to practice with, I mainly want to use it for solo performances. I’m wondering (since mine is the earlier model with no looper) if I can make it work with my Boss RC-3 loop station??? I think I should be able to run the bass and drum pattern through the PA and the guitar I add latter through the RC-3 and the f/x loop on my guitar amp. Or am I way off base here and need to bite the bullet and just buy the Plus, now? 😂😂 I’m 63 and pretty much new to pedals overall. Never too late to learn, I hope! 😂
Welcome to the Trio club! We never used the Trio so not 100% sure, but what you described using it with an external looper should do the trick and work roughly the same. Maybe start there and if you enjoy that think about moving up to the plus. Best of luck on your exploration. Enjoy!
I have one of these coming in tomorrow. I ordered it from Amazon. What will I use it for? I’m a solo instrumental guitarist. This is a perfect thing for a little extra back up. Put it on stage and go out and play some gigs. I’ve been playing guitar since 1974. I’m 71 years old. I’ve been playing for 51 years. I love love guitar best hobby I ever had most fun I ever had. At first it was hell but after 10 years you start catching on ha ha have a great night.❤️❤️😃👍😎 this damn thing is super cool😎😎😎 love it❤️
It doesn’t matter which style you choose before you start playing. The style of the background track is determined by what you do with the right hand in terms of your rhythm technique. For example, if you accent on two and four, you will get a snare on two and four.
I've been using this peddle for 4 years and I can say it's provided a lot of my backing tracks for solo performing. I find it easier to create all of my song parts then transfer it to a DAW where I convert to mp3 backing tracks for the live performance. Not sure I can trust my feet to execute the different song parts live. I've also seen where my trio+ goes into some strange states at times requiring a reboot. LOL
Really helpful video on the Trio+, thanks for this! I've used the Trio and Trio+ since they came out a few years ago. I'm really bummed out that Digitech totally dropped the ball since the Trio+ came out, abandoning any further innovations in the Trio+ hardware concept, or firmware updates, USB C connection, PC/Mac software, etc. as the Trio+ hardware concept fills a real nice rhythm section niche beyond just electric guitar. Maybe a table-top Trio+Table to challenge the Boss RC-505?? For example, I think it has good future applications in keyboard accompaniment, esp in beatmaking, integrating with Rolands SP404Mk2, and any equiv samplers and grooveboxes. It doesn't currently 'learn' or work well with various keyboards (stage pianos, synths, or with acoustically mic'd guitar or real pianos), but it COULD with updates from Digitech. Perhaps the biggest correctable drawback I've hit in either live settings or recording via DAW is that it doesn't output bass and drums as completely separate tracks (via its single mixer out to a console) , even given the separate gain control on bass vs drums. Even better if it could separate everything out -- Bass guitar, kick/bass drum, snare, toms, high hat etc at least via USB C in a DAW mode. I'll keep waiting to see if Digitech or anyone else picks this Band-In-a-Box driven idea back up. given that AI is showing up now in more commodity products. Sorry for the long rant, thanks again!
I have owned a DigiTech Trio+ for over two years now and really enjoy it. However I worry about servicing any component issues down the road when they occur. Like a dead or faulty foot switch. DigiTech is no more. They were sold by Harmon to Cort. Online support seems horrid. How long does Sweetwater warrant the Trio+? Do they service and repair them?
DigiTech was sold and has reset to it's better pre-Harman independence. They recently reissued the Trio+ and other top models, so the future looks pretty bright for DigiTech and the Trio from what we can see.
Ive had one of these pedals for years. I never could get it to do what I wanted. Maybe I didnt try hard enough. You did an excellent job. But, for some, it will not be this easy.
Great question on 5/8, that is not a setting on it, no. When we teach the Trio+ a song concept it tends to follow the rhythm and groove pretty well. I suspect you would get there, but I can not say with confidence. That acoustic guitar is by Cort and it is called the Abstract Delta. You can see it here: www.cortguitars.com/dp/abstract-delta/ It is one of our favorites in the studio so it makes appearances on the channel and in office jams often.
I have the trio plus and I find it great for coming up with jams and practicing but as far as you know coming up with a complete song that you could go as a solo artist and use it really wouldn't work well mainly because it's really hard to do intros and outros. The thing I really like about it is I can practice over and over and over and my drummer and bass player don't get sick of me.
It is nice that your bass player and drummer never complain, their never late, and they don't need to sleep on your couch. 😉 We really do like it as a practice tool and agree it might be a little tough as your performance backing track for many situations.
You can save up to 12 of the backing band creations and/or loops on an SD card. We have heard from some solo performers that basically uses one SD card per set and that works, for others they have felt this was a better songwriting and practice tool than performance.
It is pretty hard to know how it does what it does, witchcraft is a good way to explain it. For sure it is not cheap, but cost less than paying a bass player and drummer. 😉
I have the TRIO + and have used this as a performing tool where I've layed down different parts & & built Songs through the internal Sequencer, which I love by the way. The only thing is that unfortunately you can only store up to 12 SONGS per SD-Card, ( regardless of how big the SD-Card is ) which is a major bummer for the perfoming artist. But I do still love this unit ! Bigtime !! So How About It DIGITECH, How about a Firmware Update to allow the full potential of this great unit to be able to store MORE SONGS ?! I'd be happy even if we get another 12 SONGS, That's DOUBLE what we get now right !
The Trio+ does have a way that you can program different sections of a song, so you could have a verse, chorus, bridge structure. We are working on a new video to show that. As for the looping, it does the typical looper thing where you can save the loop and then play over it.
Great format! Live this channel and how you’re discovering on the fly. This pedal also work great with keyboards.
Thanks @CarlFranke . We have been hearing that this is a great option for keyboard players as well, thanks for sharing your experience.
Great video that really showcases what this pedal can do. Well done guys, the Trio Plus remains one of my favourite purchases of the last few years and you guys nailed why. Look forward to more videos…👌👍
Thanks so much @mondayworship390 We sure enjoyed this pedal and plan to keep exploring all that we can do with it. Thanks for supporting the channel!
WoW! I'm glad I discovered this channel! This pedal is great but you guys make everything so much fun!
Thanks so much. We are so glad that you are here and joining the gear conversations with us. 🙏🏼
There's been a lot of looper pedals released since the Digitech Trio + and I've seen the videos of all of them are some of them better? Well i guess that's subjective but I personally love this looper and I don't believe I've ever seen anyone have this much fun with any looper on UA-cam. These guy's really show off how pleasing this looper can be. This thing really is a powerhouse. Thanks guy's
@1953purdie you nailed it on all points here. There have been lots of looper and band in the box products launched since the Trio+, it is impressive how well it holds up today. This is a really powerful and easy to use looper. You are also right about how much fun we had with this. We are just guys that love to play and this let us play in some new ways. Thanks for joining the dialog here.
Jay’s joy is infectious. Broad smiles.
I bought this unit over a year ago and have yet to really try it out. Looked it up and saw this vid and now am going to give it a whirl. Thanks for reviewing this and some of the features.
That is great to hear @mmiller6873 This pedal has so much potential for practicing, writing, or performance. We hope that you find a good way to get lots out of your Trio+!
Ditto.
I purchased one a few years ago and it's been in a box since. Learning it stores creations after it's unplugged just sold me.
Quite simply the best video I've seen on Trio + on UA-cam! Well done! Still exploring mine....
Thanks @guitargod6997 we are still exploring the Trio+ as well, so many options.
Excellent demonstration! I have had mine a couple years now. Play all classic rock and some County cover tunes on my weekend solo/duo gigs. That footswitch is a must. Saves wear and tear on the pedal too. Once you get to understand how to teach it. You can do a lot.
That is great info from a real Trio+ user, thank @frontcentermusician! The note on how helpeful the footswitch is is especially helpful. 👍🏼
just got mine. cant figure out how to use amp distortion. it keeps distorting the taught part
One can use more SD cards? I would play jazz Standards, on live gigs. In the first round I would sing and play rythmn guitar, then some solos over the "band". Is that possible?
Hey Sean, did I learn any new about this pedal.... No, but, what I loved about your video is how you presented and showed the basic features... It also didn't hurt you had 2 of my favorite you tubers as well. Keep it up!
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for checking us out.
This not only is a great demo video of a versatile guitar pedal but also a wonderful musical experience for your audience. Such soulful playing, guys. Thank you!
Thanks so much @ConwayBob 🙏🏼 That is really kind and very much appreciated. We really enjoyed doing this one.
I have had this pedal for about 7 years now, and it’s a great practice tool that keeps me inspired. I do feel that a software update is needed though (understandably Digitech were “dead” for a while).
Great to hear from a long-time Trio+ user. @jimmcdougall9973 thanks for sharing your experience and specifically how you use it. I know DigiTech mentioned that some firmware updates are coming soon, I suspect it will continue to improve.
@@NoFearGuitarGearthat would be so good for the moral of digitech users. Especially those with this tool. I know I would welcome it open arms!🤙🏾🤙🏾
For me it's the most creative and fun pedal ever made....Great job guys!
Thanks so much @TheBushcraftonline It really has so much creative potential.
I'm pretty sure nothing in the "3/4" part of things was actually 3/4. He started in 6/8 but I think the "band" was in a swung 4. But what I want to know is does it do real 6/8? That's the time signature I need most
I was hearing the same thing. It doesn’t sound like 3/4 or 6/8 to me. Where’s the waltz.😅
@@Ptpop The "band" is playing in 4/4. Simple as that. A bit worrying that three pro musicians can't tell the difference between 3/4 and 4/4.
You meant 4/4 not 3/4. Totally agree. I thought my ears were going wrong for a second or two.
I think he played in 4/4, then the band just followed him
Did you ever find out if really has 3/4, this is super important to me too?
I've had my band in a box for several years. I learned more watching you guys play with it than all the years I've owned it. Hopefully now I'll go off into different tangents and be more creative with it. Thank you guys!
That is great to hear. We hope that you do give it a go. There is lots of potential here.
I'm a solo musician and this will take me to the next level. Seems like I've been waiting for this device all my life. Hope they sell this in South Africa. It's great!
I use it LIVE, see my comment above dude ! It IS a great unit, but it does have a downside ... PEACE !
@@josephbusuttil3030 hi mate what's the downside of these device's! Well upside I see with this it eliminates humans mistakes haha!
@scorps-hl8ue the down side is PEACE?
I agree with you... I think it will take me 6month to explore it.....
Can we get it here in South Africa yet?
These are cool, but I wonder one through a guitar channel a few years ago and never really figured it out intuitively. This video is one of the most informative “how to” videos I’ve seen, and definitely the most FUN video I’ve seen with it! Thanks and Great job!
Thanks @steelman774 🙏🏼 We are glad that you liked the video and found it helpful. Thanks for checking us out.
Great video - thanks to all three of you.
There must be something wrong with me because I find it difficult to use. I guess if I played with it for 8 or 9 years, then I'd begin to understand how everything works (ha)
This can be complex for sure. We decided to really focus on the basics and loved what it can do without us trying to use every bell & whistle. Once we got used to playing simple to train the unit and learned the basics we found it very useful and not too tough to get rolling with. If you try to do everything that it can do I think it would have taken us a while as well.
What an amazing tool! More than that amazing musicians. Love it.
Thanks very much, we appreciate that.
Remember guys, the progression needs clean chord inputs, not effect chord input.
I love this pedal, I'm also thinking about ordering one, great demo, well done guys 😊😁👍
Thanks @eileenwinkel5226. If you do get one please let us know here what you think and how you use it.
I use mine with a boss micro br 80 8 track to get the drums to follow me rather than other way around ( if i were using a conventional drum machine) and generally swap out the bass line for my own.....also use it as a stand alone practice tool same as you guys were doing.... great vid!
Love JLJ! He always makes me smile … Thank you to all of you for the great demo.😊
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Thanks. We agree with you on JLJ!
I am ALWAYS inspired by JLJ's playing - just infectious, man!!! Love it!!!
He really is! Thanks for checking out our video.
Hats a power trio right there 🎸 Thanks guys, super fun 👍👏
So far the most awesome vid on this product and J.L.Jay, a masterly himself again. Having the Trio+ myself, this vid gave me a re-motivation boost all over. Thank you guys, awesome 👌🎶
Thanks so much. Ever demo is better with Jay! 👍🏼
You guys showed me ways to use my trioplus that I didn't know about, thanks!
I got one of these for Christmas a few years ago and have never used it. You guys have inspired me.
Glad to help. We hope you enjoy your Trio+. It will be like Christmas in July!
Cool! Jay was really cookin’!
I’d love to hear Jay flesh out that jam! Very cool!
love the playing guys! pedal looks interesting indeed!
Thanks and thanks for watching.
if i want to use just my amp i cant figure out how to not make it distort the taught part once i apply the amps overdrive to solo over.
You run the "band" part into the amp's fx loop (or an frfr cab/pa etc) and the guitar out into the front of your amp.
If you use pedals, you run them through the Trio + fx loop, so you can have a clean sound when you teach the band. There are some UA-cam videos that show how to connect it up, if you're not sure.
Check out That Pedal Guy on here. He has several really informative videos on all aspects of using the Trio+.
I simply (&) freaky love this pedal !!!! 🙂👌🎸
An ordinary loop pedal was not what I was looking for , too boring !!!!
But , a few years ago I found this pedal , and .... holy mushroom ....
I no longer need to play or create the drums and bass myself ,
or I no longer need a drummer & bass player either ,
so as a result , I simply fired them then , just like that !!!! 😁
Oh , the only thing it cannot do , recording a break within a song part !!!!
For Example: Djent metal , even disco , etc ....
I bought one a few years ago & it's Horsham 😅 I bought it to play with a top drummer from the 1970s & 80s. I must dig it out again. You do only have a very limited amount of slots from one memory card, but it is like having your own band. I must try it with keyboards. 😎👍
Thanks to Digitech for the trio+ l am still learning.Thank you guys.
We are glad to hear that the Trio+ is working well for you. We are still using it and learning more all the time.
Sounds great.
Well done ! Great team you have.
Thanks so much @StratsRUs 🙏🏼 This was a great bunch and the Trio+ was especially fun.
the sequencing part of it is great ONCE you understand how to do it as the manual doesn't tell u all you need to know, interestingly it will also link the parts so even if the feel is different, it will make them all consistent, you can fit 12 songs on the sd card and with the added foot pedal you can stop the bass or drums or go up to next part etc, The bass line can be changed to from root progressions to 5th I think so you can have quite a lot of variety with that and the alt time button, it's a head warp figuring it out but once you do you can have a load of fun writing a complete song intro, verse, bridge, chorus end etc , you need to write down what you want and sequence it and have it sheeted so you know when everythings coming in as it can be tricky remembering it... all the tracks can be dropped into the computer and stored too, several sd cards and you could have a good live set... with just yourself.
Thanks for sharing your insights, that is super helpful and I am sure others that view this video will appreciate it. Indeed there is a learning curve on this unit since it does so much. We appreciate your providing your insights here.
I love mine, great for a different perspective on bass lines too.
Awesome. Thanks for sharing your experience with the Trio+
Fun and joy!
I actually felt joy watching this! Lol. Great demonstration!!
Thanks so much! We were having lots of fun it is great that that came off and that you shared our joy. We appreciate you checking out our channel.
I've been using this pedal for quite a while and i love it! I play smooth jazz and jazz rock arrangements on this device using powered arrays and a mixing board. It sounds fantastic when engineered properly! I play 4 gigs a month and just like the guy said here, my sets are on chips! The auduence lives the tunes and i love the lack of headaches! My only suggestion is that Digitech should have designed this with three separated physical trs outputs. It would give more control over the summed out of the bass and drums in the mix.
Superb! The guitar chord strum will tell the drums and bass what best to play
Exactly. It is like having a jam session without getting the band together.
love my TRIO+! the best pedal for jamming in basement :)
@vmxd thanks for sharing that. We are hearing from a lot of players that really enjoy it as a practice tool.
I just started taking this out busking. A little clunky to start, but I will improve.
I do enjoy making my own music up with this device.
@jfitz458 that is a cool insight. Keep us posted on your progress. Let us know if you share any videos of you and your Trio+ busking experiences.
How do you power it on the street ?
I love the Trio+, bought it during the pandemic for live from the basement performances. It's an awesome tool for a one man band or as a practice tool.
Thanks for sharing your experience with us and the community here!
I love my Trio Plus but... it has turned me into a hermit, alone in my basement. Great vid 👍
How much it's cost?
We can totally understand how that could happen. We have lost a few weekends for sure with ours.
About $300 in the U.S. market
Gotta love anything in 3/4
We could not agree more strongly and you are Mr. 3/4 @seandaniel23!
I must be counting wrong. It sounded 4/4 to me 😢
Nothing in this video was 3/4
Hola saludos
Como puedo conectar la trio plus y el bajo suene Asi como se oye en su video ???
Great video. My man at the end was having fun. I do not really see the Trio as a reliable performance tool- at all. In a pinch maybe but it will overwrite saved presets. Maybe you could have multiple SD cards and just playback. It would be nice if you could use the SD card to playback on a PC or tablet but I don't think that is an option. Very clearly, the Trio+ is an excellent tool for getting your ideas down and having fun. Beyond that, it falls a little short. Hopefully a future version or competing product will fully exploit the potential of this magic box. It is a lot of fun to play around with. Maybe a new produ ct can add Keys or other instruments- allow for key changes; more I/O; more rythyms, etc.
Using the Parts or Seq. how do you connect all parts together? I have not explored that yet. So I have part one- will part two automatically start when part 1 is done? Do I have to hit any buttons? Also, I think that click track only works once or for part 1. Again, this unit has potential but is not fully baked if you want to use it as a more serious tool. It should also have an online editor.
Tip: The Drums/Cymbals sound 100 times better with studio monitors with tweeters vs. guitar amp which sounds muddy.
Thanks @UTAH100 for that thoughtful comment. Great feedback and ideas here. We appreciate you being part of the conversation here.
@@NoFearGuitarGear Can you share any tips on how to use the Parts or Seq. section? So I record and save one part...then what? Nothing complicated- just any simple tip would help.
Une fois tes sequences faite . Jusqu a 5 sequences de 230 secondes.. tu appuis sur le bouton seq .... et aprés tu appui sur tes parties ...exemple si tu veux 2 fois ta 1er partie tu appui 2 fois dessus ect ect ... une fois fait si tu rappuie sur le bouton seq . Le trio te fera voir ta programmation de tes parties en clignotant . ou si tu appuis sur le footwich de droite aprés ta programmation il fera pareil pour te faire voir l ordre et le nombre de partie que tu as programmées.en clignotant .... aprés tu rappuis et cela part ......vive la musique....bye de france . 🎸🎶
@@alainvb8786 Merci beaucoup
This is the best pedal I ever bought.
@morrisgentry8624 that is great to hear. Thanks for sharing that with us and the video viewers considering the Trio+.
That 3rd dude,,great player!
best review of this gear is right here.
Wow, thanks! We really appreciate that @hybridjohn1
Great playing guys!
Thanks. this one was fun!
I really enjoyed this. Cool!
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for checking out our channel and video.
I have had mine for several years and would buy another one if it craps out. This is the best creative tool you can buy.
Thanks for sharing that insight as an owner of this pedal. 🙏🏼
I think they put these out 5 or 6 yrs ago, I tried to get one but they took em out of the market and wanted to remake em. I guess they did right cause what your showing is some killer funky blues bass riffs. Were all used to drum machines , but man, to have a bass to jam along with all the time would be incredible! I suppose this is unlike the flood of pedals out there and costs a pretty penny or two. I have to have one
Had one for years, the trick in 'learn' mode is to keep the chords simple (triads work well) - it can get confused with extensions. Also when strumming to get the essentials of the rhythm rather than play the full pattern. When you come to play the loop actual part you can revert to the song parts.
That is great insight, thanks @wyvernwood5675 for sharing that here.
love it will buy one
I have 1 of these, it's pretty clever!
We totally agree. Lots of good use cases for it. Thanks for watching the video and being part of the dialog here.
@@NoFearGuitarGear Cheers!
Nice video!
Those rhythm sections give off The Police vibes from time to time...
We totally hear that as well.
Great video Gentleman!!Any chance you could post more tutorial videos on the FX3 , such as how to connect it and how to use it? Thanks
Great suggestion. We are exploring some new Trio+ content, so we will add this to the list. Thanks!
Had mine for 7, 8 yes, fun
Brilliant 👏👏👏👏👏👏
SPJ, this pedal holds a lot of potential and although not a teal band it can help song writers ! And perfect for one man Band,. I'm going to talk myself into buying one!!! Just hope you guys have Merry Christmas and I'm going to see why this Pedal Didn't come into my in box from your Mail List?? SPJ TY guys God Bless & Merry Christmas 🎄⛄🙏❤️✌️🌎🫂🌍
Glad that you found this helpful. You will enjoy the Trio+. Keep us posted.
Great job guys you sold me little high but this video c convinced me
I’ve been using Trio about 6 years. Fun tool.
Thanks for sharing that experience with us and the community here.
Wow. I have one of these that I got cheap, but I never put any real time into. Had no Idea it did all that. I'll get right on it.
We are glad that the video gave you some ideas and that you already have one. We hope you have as much fun with yours as we have been.
What about vocals or a midi cord progression file
I don't think that you could use vocal to "teach" the Trio+, but you could benefit from the backing band as a vocalist after the songs are defined. As for MIDI files, there is likely a way but not something that we tested.
@@NoFearGuitarGear ok so would I be able to play some simple
Strings or pluck cords from my usb piano 🎹 keyboard? Does the system pick up things like that kind of like what you would use to make beats as a producer? Because I don’t know how to play the guitar, but I could play some keys? But for singers, this would open up a whole New World.
@@byoflive We have not tested this ourselves, but we did a little research and with a keyboard the answer is yes. The key is that you would need to use basic chords so the bass part can follow correctly, then but the more complex chords on top of the rhythm section.
As far using stringed instruments, we could not find any info on anyone directly trying that, so we can not say for sure. It does seem like it would work, it is just a matter of finding a way to give the Trio+ the basic chord or note structure to teach it. If you play basic parts (single notes / basic triad chords) it should work. Maybe someone else will come along in the comments with more direct experience, but we hope that this helps.
@@NoFearGuitarGear ok I’ll go to guitar center and see
My worry about this clever device is how useful it would be on stage without someone twiddling the knobs for me. You alluded to this at the end of your video, but didn't go into how to do it. I am not great with technology, so a follow-on video on how to do this would help me greatly. Thanks.
We think it is correct to say that this might not be the best tool for live performance in many cases. You can use an SD card to save your loops and beats, so it is possible to build it all in advance and just start the backing band and any looping that you saved. It can work, but the people that we have been talking to that have the pedal and love it all seem to use it for practice, song writing and general inspiration. We are working on a new video where we go deeper, do watch for that.
Well done guys, Jay was great
Thanks! Indeed it seemed like that band in the Trio+ was made for Jay.
I can play little melodies on the guitar, great for helping expand ideas and just having fun when alone.
I like that box in the band❤
Questions : Why does it not have a click track to begin with? The reason I say that is, what if your timing wavers in the first learning phase, does it automatically quantize or something? So the other parts are locked to that original tempo timing? How many guitar parts upon guitar parts can you loop? ( not separate parts of the song ). How many 'songs' can you save and ultimately how much recording minutes does it have total? Can it really do 3/4? Your demonstration suggested it was not really 3/4?
@neil-aspinall
question 1 … just like a human band, the player(s) have to ‘show’ or ‘teach’ the “drummer” the tempo for new loops. i.e., the trio has to have a reference. however, if you’re just writing another “part” for the same “song” (you can write up to 5 parts per song, and up to 12 songs per sd card), you can engage the click & it will default to the same tempo as the previous ‘part’, as the trio assumes the new part will be combined with the previous part into the same song. … if that makes sense. but brand new parts’ tempos done like this are not adjustable the way you probably want them to be (more on that below). imo, for each new part that’s not part of a song already in development, it’s best to teach the trio the tempo directly.
question 2 … if your timing waivers, the trio will do its best to guess the tempo & meter and quantize accordingly. it’s not 100% accurate at correcting the player’s mistakes. it’s best to use a clean, simple, rhythmically accurate foundational/reference progression to ‘teach’ the trio’s drum & bass parts. you can use an online metronome or free phone app as accompaniment to help.
question 3 … the other parts are locked into a tempo, to a point. that is, you can always speed up or slow down bass & drum parts, as well as any already recorded guitar layers - on the fly - and all will be ‘time stretched’ accordingly & remain in sync with one another when the tempo is changed manually. caveats: tempo adjustments are global - they affect every “part” on the unit proportionately while the tempo knob is abnormal, not just the part you’re messing with at the time. also, to record a new guitar layer, the tempo knob must be in the normal (noon) position with the green led off - indicating time stretching is not engaged. in fact, the trio will not let you engage the looper for a new guitar layer if time stretching is engaged. the green light will blink reminding you to return the tempo to normal before recording a new layer can take place. you can also create any part at whatever tempo you want … even if you combine them into the same song later, each part will retain its own tempo instead of all conforming to one master tempo within a song.
question 4 … I’ve found no limit to the number of layers I can loop onto the same part. I suppose there could be memory limits with sd cards, but I’ve recorded loops with more than a dozen parts without any issues. maybe keep in mind though that because all the inputs & outputs on the trio are mono/TS, and despite being 24 bit & 44.1 khz sample rate, too many layers can get muddy. and you’d have to regulate the volume/tone of each guitar layer by various means as you’re looping it to ensure each layer sits well in the loop's overall mix. i've found this fairly easy to do.
question 4 … you can write up to 5 parts per song, and up to 12 songs per sd card.
question 5 … (from the manual) … "maximum recording time: 230 seconds per song part - based on a minimum 50 bpm and 48 bars per part." i always use parts as individual loops instead of combing parts into songs. i.e., i have 60 independent loops on my unit at any given time (5 parts x 12 songs = 60 parts/loops total) so i can't speak to time constraints with regard to assembling songs from parts. but the manual's math would suggest [a] 230 minutes total 'recording' time (230 seconds x 5 parts x 12 songs = 230 minutes) and [ b] no song length limits.
question 6 … yes it can really do ¾
hope all that helps. i love my unit. it keeps me inspired. there was a learning curve but so glad i stuck with it. it's pretty amazing & lots of fun. i also use it as 'scratch pad' for riffs & progressions before moving into my daw for production. very handy. you can pick up a used one online for ~$200. cheers.
@@kazeyphoto thanks , you should do a video !
Great video, thanks. I just bought a second hand one online. Well, I thought I did… turned out it was just the Trio, without the +, so no looper. Oh well, it’s still an awesome bit of kit!
I still haven’t figured out how to do extra parts and have just focussed on simple songs without choruses etc. Or how to save. I will persevere, though. While it’s great to practice with, I mainly want to use it for solo performances. I’m wondering (since mine is the earlier model with no looper) if I can make it work with my Boss RC-3 loop station??? I think I should be able to run the bass and drum pattern through the PA and the guitar I add latter through the RC-3 and the f/x loop on my guitar amp. Or am I way off base here and need to bite the bullet and just buy the Plus, now? 😂😂
I’m 63 and pretty much new to pedals overall. Never too late to learn, I hope! 😂
Welcome to the Trio club! We never used the Trio so not 100% sure, but what you described using it with an external looper should do the trick and work roughly the same. Maybe start there and if you enjoy that think about moving up to the plus. Best of luck on your exploration. Enjoy!
This is the fun i want to have while noodling around on my dusty guitars!
Really amazing
I have one of these coming in tomorrow. I ordered it from Amazon. What will I use it for? I’m a solo instrumental guitarist. This is a perfect thing for a little extra back up. Put it on stage and go out and play some gigs. I’ve been playing guitar since 1974. I’m 71 years old. I’ve been playing for 51 years. I love love guitar best hobby I ever had most fun I ever had. At first it was hell but after 10 years you start catching on ha ha have a great night.❤️❤️😃👍😎 this damn thing is super cool😎😎😎 love it❤️
We can't wait to hear how you end up liking the Trio+. With your experience this should be fun!
It doesn’t matter which style you choose before you start playing. The style of the background track is determined by what you do with the right hand in terms of your rhythm technique. For example, if you accent on two and four, you will get a snare on two and four.
Great point and a really good way to summarize that. Thanks!
I've been using this peddle for 4 years and I can say it's provided a lot of my backing tracks for solo performing. I find it easier to create all of my song parts then transfer it to a DAW where I convert to mp3 backing tracks for the live performance. Not sure I can trust my feet to execute the different song parts live. I've also seen where my trio+ goes into some strange states at times requiring a reboot. LOL
Thanks so much for sharing your experience and how you use the Trio+, that is excellent info. 🙏🏼
Could be a great gadget to just relax and jam around in your personal space...... Would love to have it...
That is exactly right. It is fun to just have some creative time or fun.
Really helpful video on the Trio+, thanks for this! I've used the Trio and Trio+ since they came out a few years ago. I'm really bummed out that Digitech totally dropped the ball since the Trio+ came out, abandoning any further innovations in the Trio+ hardware concept, or firmware updates, USB C connection, PC/Mac software, etc. as the Trio+ hardware concept fills a real nice rhythm section niche beyond just electric guitar. Maybe a table-top Trio+Table to challenge the Boss RC-505?? For example, I think it has good future applications in keyboard accompaniment, esp in beatmaking, integrating with Rolands SP404Mk2, and any equiv samplers and grooveboxes. It doesn't currently 'learn' or work well with various keyboards (stage pianos, synths, or with acoustically mic'd guitar or real pianos), but it COULD with updates from Digitech. Perhaps the biggest correctable drawback I've hit in either live settings or recording via DAW is that it doesn't output bass and drums as completely separate tracks (via its single mixer out to a console) , even given the separate gain control on bass vs drums. Even better if it could separate everything out -- Bass guitar, kick/bass drum, snare, toms, high hat etc at least via USB C in a DAW mode. I'll keep waiting to see if Digitech or anyone else picks this Band-In-a-Box driven idea back up. given that AI is showing up now in more commodity products. Sorry for the long rant, thanks again!
I have owned a DigiTech Trio+ for over two years now and really enjoy it. However I worry about servicing any component issues down the road when they occur. Like a dead or faulty foot switch. DigiTech is no more. They were sold by Harmon to Cort. Online support seems horrid. How long does Sweetwater warrant the Trio+? Do they service and repair them?
DigiTech was sold and has reset to it's better pre-Harman independence. They recently reissued the Trio+ and other top models, so the future looks pretty bright for DigiTech and the Trio from what we can see.
Wow, seems great for actually teaching myself to play bass/guitar. Is this anything like a go mixer? This thing is amazing like a band in a box!
Thanks for checking out our video. We are enjoying it to practice with and just get us playing.
Ive had one of these pedals for years. I never could get it to do what I wanted. Maybe I didnt try hard enough.
You did an excellent job. But, for some, it will not be this easy.
Jay is a fantastic guitar player. Easily one of the best on YT
Can you do 5/8 rhythms and what is the acoustic guitar the right Sean was playing?
Great question on 5/8, that is not a setting on it, no. When we teach the Trio+ a song concept it tends to follow the rhythm and groove pretty well. I suspect you would get there, but I can not say with confidence. That acoustic guitar is by Cort and it is called the Abstract Delta. You can see it here: www.cortguitars.com/dp/abstract-delta/ It is one of our favorites in the studio so it makes appearances on the channel and in office jams often.
@@NoFearGuitarGear Thank you
Greetings I think I'll be trying this pedal..
Please do. It is worth a look.
JLJ is Gold!
All of us at No Fear Agree with that statement. Gold indeed!
I have the trio plus and I find it great for coming up with jams and practicing but as far as you know coming up with a complete song that you could go as a solo artist and use it really wouldn't work well mainly because it's really hard to do intros and outros. The thing I really like about it is I can practice over and over and over and my drummer and bass player don't get sick of me.
It is nice that your bass player and drummer never complain, their never late, and they don't need to sleep on your couch. 😉 We really do like it as a practice tool and agree it might be a little tough as your performance backing track for many situations.
is it available for peano
A bunch off show-offs! I love it!!!!!!!!!!!
If you love that you have found the right channel to follow. 🤣
I love mine but need more than just 4/4 and 3/4 sigs
Great to get feedback here from someone that has the pedal, thanks for sharing that.
Not gonna lie, that loop at 9:42 is dope.
Hello, how can i used it¿ i am a solo performer,, thank you
You can save up to 12 of the backing band creations and/or loops on an SD card. We have heard from some solo performers that basically uses one SD card per set and that works, for others they have felt this was a better songwriting and practice tool than performance.
Anyone know, if you can get the same kind of pedal for bass? Would be dope to have drums and keys/guitar to jam along with.
That does sound like a great idea. We have not come across that, but will keep our eyes open.
this device was a great idea. I owned it once. I think it's a pitty that they did not develop it more...
Great review guys. This pedal seems amazing, "like witchcraft". I want it but I bet it's expensive.
It is pretty hard to know how it does what it does, witchcraft is a good way to explain it. For sure it is not cheap, but cost less than paying a bass player and drummer. 😉
I have the TRIO + and have used this as a performing tool where I've layed down different parts & & built Songs through the internal Sequencer, which I love by the way.
The only thing is that unfortunately you can only store up to 12 SONGS per SD-Card, ( regardless of how big the SD-Card is ) which is a major bummer for the perfoming artist.
But I do still love this unit ! Bigtime !!
So How About It DIGITECH, How about a Firmware Update to allow the full potential of this great unit to be able to store MORE SONGS ?!
I'd be happy even if we get another 12 SONGS, That's DOUBLE what we get now right !
Great insights, thanks for sharing your experience here.
This is super cool .
Thanks!
That was hysterical. Tells the machine to play in 3/4, then proceeds to play everything in 4/4. 🤣😂🤣😂🤣
How do you do a bridge.? Does it just loop over your live playing. Or can you keep playing ? 🤔
The Trio+ does have a way that you can program different sections of a song, so you could have a verse, chorus, bridge structure. We are working on a new video to show that. As for the looping, it does the typical looper thing where you can save the loop and then play over it.