birthday dinner drama, sober GenZ, Asian glow, and money rules with friends
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In this episode, Elle discusses the social dynamics of splitting the bill during group dinners, particularly birthday dinners. She shares her "Spoiled Girlie" rules for managing these situations. Elle also dives into the cultural trend of GenZ drinking less alcohol, and the benefits this has on their health and finances. She further explores the "Asian Glow" phenomenon, explaining the health risks associated with it. The episode concludes with a discussion about managing expectations and surrounding yourself with people who share similar values when it comes to money and social interactions, emphasizing the importance of compatibility in these areas for overall happiness and well-being.
In Russian culture, the birthday person pays for the whole dinner. They receive gifts in return. It's mind boggling to me to see otherwise in the US. If you're not prepared to pay for friends who celebrate you with attention, time, and gifts, then invite them to your home and cook for everyone instead. That's been a hard and fast rule for me. No one is paying for my food on my birthday. I pay for my friends to spend a good time celebrating me with time, attention, and gifts.
Must be my Ukrainian blood (im American) but i agree. If im inviting others out, im paying.
In the US, people generally don’t bring gifts to an adult birthday outing. They might bring a card, but it’s not typical to bring gifts, unless it’s a party at someone’s home, and even then it’s not 100% expected to bring gifts. They maybe will bring like a card with a gift card inside.
@@cuttiecrazy11 I guess it depends on your friends. I've lived in the US since 2000 and in my adulthood I have US born friends that always bring a gift for my birthday while I treat everyone to a home cooked dinner. Obviously this will differ from friend group to friend group, but it's all about who you surround yourself with. I put in a lot of effort and thought into the gifts I give my friends and they do too because it is a shared love language.
@@cuttiecrazy11 Nuhu, must be a you thing. Unless it's someone I barely know I always bring a gift, it doesn't need to be expensive and most people do the same.
It's just a standard birthday tradition in most western countries.
@mariwhya I prefer gift giving too, whether going out to eat or not.
This was a $4600 bill or so. And many people were invited. You really need to have clear conversations beforehand how the bill will be paid
Arrange for a pre-fixed menu (which includes drink options) ahead of time. Then, on arrival, give your server a $100 bill for their trouble, then instruct the server as follows: 1) everyone orders off the pre-fixe menu; 2) as soon as someone orders non- pre-fixe menu items, add their items (deciding to elect for the filet mignon, 15-year whiskey, and such) to *their* separate check; 3) checks come and the free loaders pay THEIR share. 🤭🤷🏾♀️
Not on *my* watch and on my birthday, no less!
and I’m not expecting a man to pay that just because he attended. A man is supposed to provide for HIS woman not everybody’s😂 They should’ve talked about it beforehand like adults do.
@NanaHoneyB I Agree..I feel like the ppl who order the most and then wanna split the bill ..are the True cheap skates!
@@NanaHoneyB Unless the guy is paying for your bff or your sister, I agree it's not necessary for him to pay for the whole table. Even billionnaires don't do that.
@@cloudypolly22 lol they do. I’ve known a millionaire who most certainly does and regular men who do too. But it depends and it shouldn’t be expected of anyone. Certainly not with that attitude.
Those people are not her friends. Period. It's a birthday dinner. You split the bill and only attend if you can afford to be out. Your *friends* will understand if you are tight on money. Likewise, if you want to go out but you're tight on money say up front, "Hey, can't split the bill, can only cover my bit." Your *friends* understand. My friends and I haven't had problems with the bill because we're honest with each other about our varying situations. We celebrate each other's birthdays, and we're seriously shocked by these videos. (We roll in a group of 10 - 15 people.) 🤷🏾♀
Exactly next time she should just choose like her two closest friends or better still go and socialize alone.
It's not by force.
She really wanted to include everyone even acquaintances who she viewed as friends but weren't.
If You’re tight on money do a parte at Home .
I found that weird cause I always thought the birthday girl/boy is treating people otherwise it's an outing like any other. If the person can't afford it, they can always hang out at home with cake, food and drinks
@WarmSun_MGM That's why when ordering the birthday girl should ask for a separate check for each person so that does not happen.
I think the problem is communication. Depending on what culture you come from there are different rules about how things get paid, but I think a good rule of thumb is to communicate if you want anyone to pay for anyone else's food. Expecting people to do stuff, especially with no precedent isn't cool.
Grandma taught me: wine never comes by itself. Always with a meal and water. One glass of wine, one glass of water.
That’s common knowledge in wine making cultures.
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Hiiiiiii I’m a sommelier and I’m just going to kindly pop the bubble that “red wine is sooo good for you”, bc the amount of alcohol in any wine will always cancel out the microscopic amounts of the “good stuff”. Eat real fruit for benefits. Save your coin. Drink if you want. Stay pretty.
Wow, I didn’t even realize when my husband automatically paid for my meal and my best friend (also a woman) while out to lunch together that he understood the assignment.
When I am out with my girlfriends we all share the same amount and order one or two dishes that are large enough to feed us all full or more than full.
We share dishes and split them by portions per plate between us.
Hence why we all get the same amount of food with the same amount of money we all paid for.
Makes sense!
The quickest way to make me evaporate from my bones is arguing about money in public.
My friends and I split the bill evenly each time! We don't act greedy and mannerless and order like we've been starving for months.
The birthday girl never pays! The rest of us split everything evenly.
If one of us earns less than the others, that person instinctively orders less and we make sure they ONLY pay for what they got.
It doesn't need to be complicated if everyone has decorum. (Oh and I don't do birthday dinners for guys).
Birthday dinners you all either split the whole bill sans birthday girl, or you pay your part and split the birthday girl's part, THOSE ARE THE ONLY TWO OPTIONS
I have a friend who will pay the whole bill and then send an Excel sheet to all the parties involved detailing what each person consumed and how much they owe. 😂
exactly
@@mandril45thats genius 😂
I stopped hanging out with someone because she would get drunk and order 5 rounds of appetizers and expect to split the bill no matter what anyone at the table was going through. I was running a startup and wanted to spend my money on the business instead of partying with friends.
Yeah, no bueno. She sounds selfish!!
Omg I’d hate that! Sounds like she wanted to have a certain caliber of dining and wanted others to help her afford it
I was at a dinner last night with the girls. Just paid my dinner and birthday gal's and had everyone split the rest. It was an establishment with shareable things and I just paid for those as a treat for everyone. Earning good money gives you such peace of mind and allows you to give back so much to other women in your life. Get your bag bestie 💰
Note: I paid for the entire tab to avoid the headache and guarantee a large tip for the server, the rest was split. Money transaction apps exist for a reason.
I’m a nurse graduate. I’ve always said alcohol is poison despite the propaganda that it’s okay in moderation-it’s not.
Also, I get it. I’m not judging. I just want people to know that facts so they consciously decide the risk vs benefit.
I remember something about Asians being “allergic” to alcohol. I’ll have to look into that.
I’ve heard about 40% of Asians genetically don’t have the enzymes necessary to metabolize alcohol, don’t know if it’s true
My boyfriend of only two years makes sure to always pay, and if he goes out with my family/friends he always OFFERS to pay. If we go out with his friends they all split it but he pays for me. Sometimes he even gifts me some extra cash while he’s paying the bill just because he opens his wallet next to me 😭 y’all ladies that haven’t been treated like this or don’t think it exists, don’t lose hope! There are plenty of losers out there but once you find a gem of a partner your spirit will be at peace ❤ make sure your happiness is a priority in any relationship you’re in!
One good tell that I’m now realizing in hindsight…. Whenever he goes out to dinners with his family he always offers to pay. Him and his dad fight over it lol. If you find a man that is generous enough to pay for his family/friends then if you become like family to him he will likely treat you the same 😍
Don’t pay attention to those “I got 10 on it” type dudes. Leave them alone. That was my ex husband and he had me working two jobs to pay the bills while he played ps4 and submitted like one job application in 6 months.
In the beginning with my current bf I always wanted to pay for myself and he would fight me over it until I just stopped trying. I’m rooting for all my girls out there ❤
Thank you for this !
damn, i wish this was me lol.
Don't try to find a gem in the pit of sh1t. Cake is a lie. Save your time, your health and your money. Don't look for a man
Y'all are unbelievably toxic and proud about it. You're not owed any man's money.
I'm sorry but unless you explicitly understand the expectation for your dinner being paid for - you pay for your own dinner. I would *never* just brawl like that at a friend's party. It's just entitled - and I agree be spoiled - with your own man - don't expect her guy to pay for you.
Then he shouldn’t be there. Because it was a GIRL DINNER. He was the only man. If he’s surrounded by women he should pay. If he doesn’t want to he shouldn’t go and pay for a dinner with only his partner 🤷🏽♀️
@@coolchameleon21 Then he shouldn’t be there. Because it was a GIRL DINNER. He was the only man. If he’s surrounded by women he should pay. If he doesn’t want to he shouldn’t go and pay for a dinner with only his partner 🤷🏽♀️
@@annaclement9858 How was it a 'girl dinner' - it was her birthday meal? If it was girls only why was he invited? Did anybody inform this guy that he was paying for everyone?
In Dutch culture, we always calculate exactly what we ordered and only pay for ourselves - never one person paying for everything, and never splitting the bill evenly. This definitely involves everyone getting out their calculator apps! 😅 But not at the table -- what we'll do, is one person will pay for everyone at the restaurant, and then send a picture of the receipt to the group chat. Dutch servers RARELY will split a bill themselves into separate parties. Then each guest will repay the person who paid with a bank transfer. If it's a birthday dinner, everyone will send a little over what they spent, to cover the price of the birthday-person's dinner. This way there is no awkwardness at the table and no awkwardness afterwards -- and if someone never pays you back, well, they are not invited again! Tips happen in cash at the table, if they happen at all, because in the Netherlands servers have full contracts with benefits and tipping is never expected. And sometimes there is a small battle over who gets to pay and take the receipt, because whoever has the receipt might be able to claim it on taxes!
I hate stinginess. With my Nigerian friends, one of us pays for all of us when we meet up (3-6 of us) and then someone else pays the next time.
Americans are so damn weird about money. Here in Eastern Europe, the economy has never really beem a powerhouse, but I feel we're more much more generous. In my country, if we invite friends out to celebrate our birthday, it is an unwritten rule that the one celebrated pays. My friends are so nice that they still insist to pay their share when I take them out, but I refuse. If you're having a dinner party at your house and cook what are you going to do, ask for the money back to cover the ingredients and time spent in the kitchen? How utterly ridiculous.
Health reasons are important but as a member of Gen Z- it's mainly the prices of alcohol
Honestly, it's cheaper to drink at home. 😂
in my culture, splitting the bill for someone's birthday is never to be heard of. the birthday person pays for all, no matter if the guests have ordered expensive dishes or alcohol. when i went abroad to study i was SO surprised to see that this is not the case everywhere. the rules for MY birthday are simple: get me a nice present, i'll pay for the meal and drinks for everyone. and we equal
note: what makes birthday dinner special in my country is that the birthday person pays. and the others get to just celebrate them. in a regular dinner ofc everyone pays their own meal (even tho we too sometimes fight who pays the whole bill)
I made almost identical comment without seeing yours first and its same in my country :D
@@samozivkanadmenic9492 me too
Listening to you talking abt servant mindset made me really aware of the fact that my younger sister has it and I don't, I really admire her and I want to have that mindset too with the right people, I have to work it out and heal some triggers but I know it will all be fine
I would love to know more about that concept “servant mindset”.
@@AngieB_TheMrs You should definitely check Elle's content she talks about it a lot and I think it's a really great way of expressing one's feelings/appreciation for someone and oneself because what you give out is what you receive, also even more amazing to find people like that🧚🏻♀️ that's what I learnt
I hate going to other people birthday dinners. Especially when i was invited and it is sprung on me to cover for the birthday girl. When i throw my bday party, i cover for everyone. Some people just use and abuse. I never go out with them again
When I know I'm invited I never order something more expensive than the friend who invites me.
When I want to eat expensive I just pay for myself
I have a different take on splitting bills. My friends and I always pay for our individual food. I never buy what I can't afford. So I can't pay for something I know I can't afford. I never go broke, I always stay within budget. I can't do that if I keep paying for other people's stuff.
I guess it's just what you're looking for in a relationship. Personally, it's absolutely ridiculous to expect a person to split with 20+ people. When there were definitely people who got extra on top of extra to take advantage.
I just get what i want and pay for my own. I just pay for myself for everything. Once money is involved it always gets ugly.
For me, people are bad for my mental health because I’ve always been taken advantage of. Rich or poor. I prefer my peace. Even if I die early. I’ve lived long enough on this prison planet.
LooooooooooL! THIS is the conclusion I reached last week over dating! I was abused growing up, and I keep picking partners who are sweet kind and caring upfront so obviously green flags, only for the mask to come ALL THE WAY OFF the moment they get what they really wanted from me! I can't play this Russian roulette dating game anymore! GIVE ME ALL THE PLANTS THANK YOU! I'M OUT!
@@coolchameleon21idk bout yall but I’m def gonna be living my golden girl life and dressing up😂
This has always been my mental guide:
- if there's a significant income difference eg parents & children, working age and student etc, then for most things the comfortable one pays
- if everyone is working and comfortable then probably an even split is easiest and you just need to not take the mic
- if everyone is some kind of poor (students for ex) then you pay for your exact portion of the bill. Having to pay for someone else's share unexpectedly may be quite stressful and not everyone is the same exact level of poor or careful
- if it's a birthday and you're comfortable, there's probably a silent exchanging of eyes to agree to split that person's share between everyone, or everyone waiting for the elder / richest to pay all
- equal split has some amount of cut off even for everyone comfortable situations, especially if there's drinks involved
- if there's shared sides or starters but also drinks, you can split the food bill and pay drinks separately
- calculators are fine but they're for your own maths not for policing others, for that you just total the pile of cash and check it's about right
- younger Brits sometimes forget that tipping is a thing (here it's only a posh restaurant thing because we have wage laws)
- omg Im so glad we don't have to calculate tax on the fly what a nightmare
although my boyfriend has taken care of me for the last 8 years every time we have ever been out to eat, he just said to me “imagine being a man and not providing for a woman” when responding to my friends bf not paying rent, bills, utilities, groceries, eating out, doesnt have his own car. and my heart went 🥰🥰🥰 thats right baby. been manifesting more of this behavior since watching your channel and it has worked. i know i dont comment or like often. but i have watched every single one of your videos and send them to people regularly! youre so amazing.we have been together since high school and he just has taken on the role of a man so well throughout the years
People are soooo entitled these days. Don't you plan things? Maybe it's just me, but with my friends that is usually worked out before we even hit the place. There's been times when a friend pays everything on their birthday, there's been times when birthday friend doesn't and the rest just split, sometimes one takes it all, and it keeps going until circle is closed etc. You can't just go into anything and just sit there expecting people to pay.
I never realised how difficult splitting a dinner bill was for so many people. You ask your server to split the bill according to what each person had. It can be time consuming depending on how many people and how many dishes and drinks were ordered but it's doable. Unless the restaurant has some complicated and weird point of sales system. But splitting the bill evenly? I've never been in that situation in a group setting either as a customer or server.
I think the server should ask up front if the bill is together or if everyone will pay for their own food. That way everyone knows the deal before they order.
This is why it’s always essential to discuss the payment process before y’all eat out together. It’s already a hassle for my group of friends to decide where to eat out since we’re all indecisive people but the payment process will always be discussed first. Either do split checks or pay back your friend if they paid the bill!!
Even for Birthday dinners. My friend group has always just paid for what we ordered and it's not an issue. I really do think people that scream that it's rude of people to not want to split the bill our meters. They're the ones that order lobster and all that s*** well everybody else just had to sell it. I'm not doing it. Very blessed to never had to deal with friends like this and even if they can only do one card or whatever people are prompt to offer to venmo and straighten it out
I believe a lot of this advice is for rich people only. That said, the advice “don’t go out if you can’t afford it” and not to be friends with people who have different money values is solid. I tend to attract people with financial issues, so I needed some of this advice. I’m tired of people owing me money and never paying be back. Especially because despite my family having some money I have a disability that prevents me from working so somehow I am supposed to plan my future with little to no income. I can’t stand people who live beyond their means and then complain about how broke they are. Especially when they try to leech off others. No matter what your money issues are 1. It’s not your friends responsibility to deal with it and 2. You shouldn’t continue to spend more than you can afford on fun stuff just because you think you work hard enough to “deserve” it
This is when it’s best to have a dinner with the menu preselected by the host and an upfront per person cost, birthday person is always covered, and everyone having to pay for the alcohol at the bar
And there is also this problem of staged videos with degrading content where women participate willingly. Can we please talk about that? Women do a terrible service to themselves an other women for hype and likes and whatever. And we also get engaged and enraged by certain clickbates and get sucked into the degrading discussions with people who don't deserve our time.
Separate bill for all and then everyone puts in for the birthday person and everyone puts in their individual tip. Easy.😊and don’t @me because I’m black.
I don’t understand the whole issue with splitting the bill. In my country, everyone simply pays for what they had, unless someone is feeling generous that day. Idk it’s never been an issue for me.
Where are you @manifestelle? Missing your presence on the weekly spoilt girlie class ❤
I have no words for you, Elle... your script is so so well-written and you're also so intelligent.. thanks for sharing all of this with us
With close friends that I trust, we often pick up each other's bill because we know that our generousity will always be appreciated and reciprocated later.
In large restaurant dinner events with friends, everyone should pay for their shit they ordered for themself with no discussion.
Girl, you need to make a discord for all us spoiled girlie's.
My Ex hubs (Turned into a great guy) and my Mr. Man have been KNOWN to fight over which one of them is going to pay the bill for EVERYONE! And I agree, I would have been Sooooooo embarrassed to be there if I was at that table.
Watching as an non american person is SO WEIRD! In my country, in a group setting, everyone pays what they ordered! And it's the social norm, it's not frown upon or anything. I haven't been to a lot of birthday dinners but it is expected for everyone to pay for their own thing too, and usually we pay for the birthday person 😊
I can count on my hand how many time i split the bill and it happened only because everyone got the same thing!
In my friend group our husbands/boyfriends ALWAYS (friendly) fight to pay the bill or tab when we go out. Not too long ago I finally asked him why he and the other men do that. He told me It’s basically like a competition of the ego and a way to silently flaunt their economic status amongst each other.
Where I'm from, the birthday boy/girl pays for the whole thing. And usually the one who makes the invitation is the one who pays. Exception being when both/all agreed to go out together, then everyone pays their own bill. Also, most of the time the men pay for the women(unless it was a woman who made the invitation/who's birthday is celebrated, in which case she will pay for the men too). Inviting people to your birthday party/dinner and expecting them to pay for it, it's considered very rude I think. Especially since, most of the time, they bring gifts as well.
If I have to spend a dime when out with a man, he will never see me again 💅🏾
I think splitting the bill is weird and doesn't make sense. I dont want anyone trying to tell me what to order or having to worry about what everyone else is getting. Im usually the one who orders several drinks, appetizers and desserts. If i wanna spend 100 dollars on a single meal thats my business. Everyone should just pay for themselves or offer to cover appetizers for the group if they are feeling generous.
The birthday person should not pay for their dinner, the bill should be their portion + their portion of the birthday dinner. Done. Also usually one friend pays the bill and we zelle them.
I split the bill with my friends every time but I can confidently say I have a handful of friends that is it
They’re having a screaming row? Over the bill? On her birthday? Gosh, what would the $ difference even have been really? Those are not friends!
The bill was $4600
@@paulinamalek1788So obviously the only thing to do was yell at each other in the restaurant! 🙄
@@paulinamalek1788still, they knew what they were doing while eating and after refusing to do what is fair. I agree that those people weren’t that good friends to her…
@@maevav5645 damn yeah like they knew how expensive the place was beforehand
I'm from the Netherlands, and we have an app called Tikkie, where you can send a request for the amount someone spent on dinner, and everyone pays for what they ordered. Americans who move here often find it baffling and, to be honest, are pretty rude about it because they tend to see it as stingy or anti-social. I've heard American girls rant on the tram numerous times about how Dutch guys always want to split the bill, which I find amusing. I understand their point that women put more effort into their looks, but I also feel that beauty standards are higher in America than in the Netherlands, so I can see where they're coming from. However, that's just our culture, and personally, I love it because people never argue about what to do in such situations-we just use Tikkie, and it's all fine.
Anyways love your channel and your content!
Telling people to cut off people who are in different financial positions sounds like someone who has come from privilege , people's financial positions go up and down , it doesn't mean you can't go out to eat with people that earn less than you. Some of my friends earn alot more than you ...we always pay for what we've eaten plus a tip unless we've eaten the same or the price of the meals on the menu are all pretty similar , some of my friends will drink alot more and I don't drink ....I love them but im not paying for their drinks 😅
I don't know our default rule with friends we pay our own food, paying for someone is a gift and it's heartfelt. Maybe it's a culture thing.
Yes, Maggiano's South Coast Plaza, a family sit down restaurant. They have a small bar. Not a drinking place. I lived walking distance for years. Bougie central. Asian glow, we called it demon face, it's a real thing. School teachers and retired teachers bring out the calculator. I have 3 besties, even at 72, we all think alike. Nowadays we all prefer Asian food. You're up to date on us elders . Much love Elle !
If a man doesn’t want to pay he shouldn’t be there. Because it was a GIRL DINNER. He was the only man. If he’s surrounded by women, which makes it look like he has a harem, he should pay. If he doesn’t want to he shouldn’t go and pay for a dinner with only his partner 🤷🏽♀️
I think if it's for a specific person - like a birthday dinner. Everyone adds to their bill to ensure the birthday person's bill, tax & tip are covered, then of course cover your own bill, tax & tip like you usually would, if not more. I totally agree that it's important to make sure the server gets a larger than normal tip on top of the fact most places will add a fee for larger parties.
Usually, me and my friends go dutch cz we have similar apetites for food and alcohol. If I'm going with people of extremely dissimilar apetites we pay for what we order. Recently my friend chose a VERY fancy place for his birthday, didn't inform us he isn't throwing a party, and then asked us for money at the end. I honestly didnt appreciate that cz he made it look as if it was his treat. If he would've informed us we would've chosen a different venue as some of our friends are struggling financially, guess he didn't what that... That's just not fair.
Social etiquettes really fly over some of their heads.
The way I clicked on this so fast when it popped up in my feed 🙌🏾 It's this spoiled girl's bday month!! 🎉🎉🎉
38 second ago, ahhh first time I'm this early 🥳
same! :)
Hey bestie!!!
Even though I'm not a new face, my memory is awful so I appreciate all the reminders!
People gotta stop doing the birthday dinners. They’re awful.
Can you clarify what you mean by you don’t like calculators and going thru the bill to know what you owe and you just have your money ready to pay for what you ordered? Do you just keep track of what you’ve ordered and already know what your portion of the bill would be or do you just have a round about knowledge of how much your portion would be? Or do you just straight up split the whole bill when out with your friends? Calculators do ruin the vibe but I also want to make sure I’m paying my fair share
Hi Elle, I love your channel so much - it’s legit the only channel that posts and I immediately know I’m going to love the video. I really enjoyed your video on how not all of us are privileged enough to have their dream job or the life of our dreams. I’m doing everything I can to make that life for myself, but in the mean time I need some form of income. I’m being pressured by everyone around me to work in a field I dislike, but I’m not sure what else to do because I need money and some form of stability in a job. I was wondering if you could make a video on how a spoiled girly can figure out a career path for herself that won’t drain all of her energy. I’m doing a lot to rewire my brain and my thinking, but I just feel like I’ve absorbed so much programming on what I “should” be and how the things I really desire and enjoy are “useless” and “the only people who can pursue that have all the time and money in the world”. I really tried to go the route of just focusing on money and on finding a financially lucrative career but I just feel even more lost and ungrounded as I go further in it, and I think it’s a sign that I need to find another path. Sorry this is so long! I really appreciate your channel and I love the community you’re building here and I feel so honored just to be a part of it.
That's a leech in action, they got caught and they got upset.
4:50 I started shouting like I was in church omg
Bday person should not pay for their own meal. Everyone else should contribute, unless someone is flush with dough and wantsto pick up the entire bill.
In Asian culture, my relatives and my parents would fight to pay for the bill. I just sit back and watch the chaos happen of them fighting who gets to pay what. There was one time when my parents just quickly went to pay before our guests. They are just polite like that hahaha.
I had a friend who would ask if we wanted to split a pizza.
She would then order extra stuff we didn't consent to for herself only.
Then ask us to split the bill evenly.
After she did this twice when she wanted us to split the bill and share I always said no thanks.
15:07 no joke there are food and drink allergies, both individual and by race. The cultures who have been using alcohol to make food throught their history are more tolerant to alcohol. IE: Spain, France, Portugal, Italy, etc. Alcohol doesn't affect me at all and I'm from Spain. Like I've drank a whole bottle of wine, or of cider in Christmas and I'm 100% sober. It's like my whole system is used to it because we make a lot of food and sauces with wine, cider and beer and does nothing to us.
That's so embarrassing lol Id just pay the whole thing and block everyone (everyone meaning the men)
What you got 5grand!?! 🤯
I love when we talk about money💖
This is the first video where I disagree with you on something lol. He's under no obligation to pay for her friends' meals. It honestly sounds like her "friends" were trying to take advantage of the situation.
I have a tiny stomach and I mostly drink tap water when having a meal, to make more space for it. I always, with no exception, spend considerably less than my friends when we go out to eat. And this is not me being cheap, I fisically can't eat a ton of food at once.
Honestly, If I know I will have to pay 3x more splitting the bill I won't even enjoy my meal. Luckly in the UK going out with friends is totally normal to pay for what you eat/drink. We don't count the penies but we roughly round up to make it easier to pay.
In the UK drinking is never going down for any generation and Gen Z are the champions when it comes to vaping all day everywhere, so...
i feel it depends how many women are at the table
for example any decent man would pay for his partner and her best friend’s meal with no questions asked but as that number grows and he isn’t even having a conversation with some of the women at the table, i believe he isn’t responsible for anyone but his partner
that being said i’m a 21 year old student,
my father on the other hand would always pay for every person at the table (especially if there was a woman there whose husband wasn’t present) or at least split the bill with another man
All my friends are like this, but we live in a country with really low wages and everyone's struggling so it makes sense. I'm self employed and make more than most of them so sometimes I want to pick up the bill for the whole table but everyone feels super awkward about it.
Insightful as always.
Yeah no sorry girlie but me and my dumbass 100% need the calculator
Where I'm from it's actually common for younger people to not have the one whose birthday it is pay. So all the guests split the bill between themselves, especially if they didn't bring birthday gifts, paying for food and drink is like the gift (it's common for friends to not give birthday gifts unless they're like best friends). People over 40 will usually pay for all their guests in my experience.
I just don't get how an adult persons only use their mouth to eat in it and not to talk to each other. I mean, this situation is easily avoided if you talk to everyone beforehand and establish the rules.
I love the incredibles too ☺️
Why did I think that Asian Glow was the reward for a consistent k-beauty routine
On that birthday dinner, I really feel like they should have worked out who will pay for what beforehand. 😬
Honestly, it makes sense that you go out within your affordability but clearly people enjoy fronting
Bro as a different perspective me and all my friends treat each other equally some times we split the bill and sometimes we would sneakily pay for someone else regardless of gender. And guess what everyone is happy and respect each other. I don't understand how hard it is to understand not to be a mooch
Tell your waiter what you had, pay for that. Tell him you’re on a separate bill up front, before you order!!!
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These are not the type of men to order appetizers for the whole table on their own accord. They are the type to eat all the shared apps quietly and complain about the bill at the end 😮 I agree if they didn’t want to be put in this situation they shouldn’t go out with a big group of girls dressed to the NINES. Go play video games with the guy homies eating 7-11 chicken wings 😂
I also love a good wine, but also cannot have too much.
we love dr. Elle episode 🥰
Get into the habit of letting the wait staff know to bill you separately right away when you order your drinks and food. They'll put your stuff on a separate ticket.
I was invited to a birthday party. I came late and missed the dinner portion, I let them know ahead of time I would be arriving later. Anyway a week later, I get a group message notification that the cost of decorations, cake and food is 40 each, split by 10 people. (Bday person not included in the chat just the guests).
Im all for splitting the bill to make a friends bday special, the part that got me is that no one discussed it with me beforehand, and I didn’t even eat the food so why would they include me on that 😂
I paid my share but mentioned “just fyi I didn’t actually eat”
19:08 right. I don't go out with people who don't want to split the bill.
I hear your argument about being generous about eating out. But I’ve had too many experiences where I’ve been taken advantage of by “friends” financially. A lot of it comes from looking out for ourselves from someone using us for money. Also, why would someone come out to eat when they don’t have the money to do so, and nobody said “it’s my treat”? I’m good, I’ll stick to splitting the bill with others
Hey Elle !! Have a good week, beautiful !!
Men in my country take immense pride in being the provider and protector of the household. My question is who is raising these men and are they really not ashamed of themselves ?
I just want to say that no one is telling you to "buy your friends". If you have the means or don't have the means, then live within those means. Don't try to keep up with the Joneses. I saw a lot of good advice in the comment section based on people's own experiences.
I know I had to make certain adjustments when it came to spending money on certain people based on their actions.
Honestly it’s a problem that should not exist nowadays, in my city all restaurants have an app you use to pay where everyone sees all the dishes and their cost. Then they choose what’s theirs and pay for it. No counting, no arguing how to split the bill
Can someone explain this video's statement on "never being friends with a man"? Is it just heterosexual men? This seems like a weirdly rigid rule.
This confirms that I need to stay a loner, so I can die earlier. 😅
Huge case to be made for not drinking. Resveratrol is in a pill form now so we don't actually need to kill our cells to get it.