hookup culture is PSYCHOPATHIC [traditional baby daddy gets IG model pregnant then leaves her]
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In this episode, Elle discusses the detrimental impacts of hookup culture and the behaviors of certain men. She criticizes men who irresponsibly impregnate women and then coerce them into terminations, labeling such behavior as psychopathic. Elle zeroes in on a popular podcaster, referred to as Pumbaa, who allegedly got a woman pregnant and then asked her to terminate. This incident sparks a broader conversation about men who degrade women publicly but engage privately with the very women they belittle. Elle argues that hookup culture is psychopathic and that supposed 'liberation' often still serves patriarchal interests. The episode ends with a call to action for listeners to recognize their own worth and value outside of men's validation.
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Hookup culture always confused/grossed me out. You’re telling me I’m going against the patriarchy by letting dudes who don’t care about me access me easily?? Yuck
Hook up culture was made by men for men
Exactly! Woman should be more self preservation for ourselves and our beings. We are nature that's why it's called mother nature not father nature so we must protect our body and souls from these nature destroyer psychopaths
I always said this too, it just seems like we're giving men what they want easier. I never liked it
THISSS i said this to my friends and they yapped but idc we said what we said!!
I always felt like women making a choice that they personally benefit from goes against the patriarchy, whether that means sleeping with a lot of people or none at all. Not every woman wants the same thing, but I do agree that men have exploited women's sexusl liberation to their benefit, as they tend to do.
I was saying this like 10 years ago
"hook up" culture was literally not "sex positive" it was just "free sex for shitty men"
100%. Smart point.
Same here they got access to more female bodies thats all the wise women understood the game being played
Without him marrying and providing for you, it is free sx he is getting. And they wont appreciate or value your generosity. Theyll actually devalue you for not respecting yourself and valuing yourself higher.👏👏👏
@@RummanaMoledinathe wise women knew where this would lead but people are hard headed.
merulaamethyst2248🎯If they weren’t getting off then they old make it VERY hard to get.
I never got hookup culture. You grow up learning about stranger danger, but as soon as you turn 18, it's ok to get into bed with a stranger? You wouldn't trust a man you just met with your money or your safety so why would you give him your body?
And access to your home, or you stay in his home. It's crazy, I'd never go to a strangers house but we do on a night out. It's actually super dangerous.
THIS!!! Like he could kill you or do anything to you that’s so dangerous!
I recently saw a girl on tiktok be offended that a one night stand she went on a date with didn't stay awake to make sure she made it home safe... This girl is lucky to be alive and she doesn't even know it. Women who indulge in hookup culture don't understand the dangers they are putting themselves through. Their parents failed them.
Exactly, these poor women where shamed for having sex and called impure ( complete bs ofc) so when they "normalized" sex they thought it's okay, but you can normalize sex without being easy to access
LITERALLY 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 say it louder for the people in the back lol
I had “friends” attack me calling me a slut shamer for just saying netflix and chill is a scam and that most of these men can’t even please us lmaoooo
Dude it literally is a scam
@@ryancrawford7048 the brainwashing is too severe for some people 🙄
@@slayfaee everyone can’t be saved let them give their cookie away to some guy who won’t even put in effort to take them on a date 🙃 bet they even had to find a way to and from him because he didn’t wanna come pick them up.
@@ryancrawford7048 lmaoo facts! if they learn at all.
There’s a place for pick mes in the society. They’re needed to keep the dusties at bay. So, let the pick mes do pick me.
Men: Youre not allowed to get rid of your baby! Also men: Just take a pill and its done!
“When you want to do it it’s murder, when I want you to do it it’s just a pill.”
I thought plan b pill can only be used before pregnancy? If you’re pregnant you actually go to the clinic and get the procedure right?? Is this guy (fresh and fit) stupid or do I not know things?
@@missalesethey’re referring to the abortion pill.
@@ryancrawford7048 omg there is one?? So it’s not plan B right? I thought you only take a pill once you miscarry or after the procedure of an abortion to help you know make sure…everything is out. It’s sad.. :/
Women should decide a 100% of the time, its our bodies and lifes that we sacrifice every aspeact about us.
If he KNEW he didn't want kids, you should've had a VASECTOMY. 🤦♀️
But that requires effort from the man* 🙄
More men should do this. Hell no am I messing up my hormonal system
The amount of men who never want kids yet refuse to get a cheap and painless vasectomy are insane.
i would say they should get their testes removed.
But that would inconvenience them for a day.
This is an insult to Timon and Pumba. They are good animals that raised Simba 😂😂😂
I was just thinking that! 😂
Agreed, This is Timon and Pumbaa slander. These alfalfa bros are more like the cackling hyenas
Dumb and dumber would be more fitting
yessss that’s the only critic i have of this vid 😂
LoL omg you are right 😂 what shall we call fresh n' fit instead ?
Thank god someone said it. Young women, never give access to your body to a man you barely know, you don't trust simply because you feel horny in the moment. Respect yourself and protect yourself against getting exploited
Remember the body is sacred
@@RummanaMoledinapeople will fight you for saying that now.
@@LoveK1 I am an atheist so sacred to me has nothing to do with a fictious made by men in their image god nor the patriarchal rules of religions made by men to suit men. Sacred is wisdom it's respecting something precious which should be valued and protected from the undeserving the predators
@@Dopaaamine27 exactly
Tell men not to force us too then
If a woman has several children from different men, shes called all sorts of names. If a man gets several women pregnant, no one says anything.
And the government do little to nothing about stopping that man from vanishing to be paying for child support.
People do, it’s called deadbeat??? Please, let’s not fabricate false narratives. They’re very much acknowledged for what they’re worth and they’re deadbeats.
@@qjtvaddict my previous comment got erased seemingly. I said the same thing. A deadbeat precisely is what they’re commonly referred as. OP’s comment is quite disingenuous.
@@mr.gamergod8467he’s only called a deadbeat if he’s not involved in the lives of his children. the mom is called derogatory names regardless of if she’s completely involved or not.
@@mr.gamergod8467women can’t win
Not all children are wanted. That's why so many kids are abused.
Bingo!!!
And abandoned and even killed😕
Not wanting to be a sinner or something of that sort ≠ wanting to have some random person in your life forever. I don't want to destroy life ≠ this kid with all their complex needs is interesting to me and I even love them. I agree with her that abortion is not a casual meaningless procedure. And you can do that trick with everything, like "your pet is just a stupid animal" or "kids are just programmed to love you, it's chemicals and evolution, they don't choose to love you" - like, true, and? It's still important. Yes, our code is written in chemicals, cap.
But not all of us are wanted. She grew up in love, so maybe she believes when manipulative parents claim that they "wanted these kids deep inside, but...". Women can be some psychopaths or narcissists too.
The female has to take responsibility about how her childs life will be before she gets/gets herself pregnant
I think in this instance the point was more about when you end up finding out that you are having a kid and decide you want to keep it (for whatever reason), it's disgusting that there are men who will be like "just get an abortion" like it's nothing and women are expected to suffer the consequences alone, no matter what the outcome is. Often times situations like this end up with either the women becoming single mothers and having to raise their child on their own (and having a child is expensive even in a lot of 2 income households, not the mention it requires physical, mental and emotional work) or they do get the abortion and then have to deal with potential guilt about that (bcs let's be honest, some women are pressured by the baby daddy into getting an abortion and regret it afterwards) and get shunned by society for getting the abortion. Sure, not all people want kids, not all kids who are born are wanted. No one's dening that. Sure, there are women who will get pregnant and will get an abortion bcs they don't want kids and everything is fine. But I think she wanted to highlight the disgusting trend in this type of men who will get a woman pregnant and then refuse to take any responsibility and walk away and get no consequences (and unfortunatelly, there are men who do this multiple times in their life without giving one single flying fuck), which leads to many women's suffering, and how bad that is. People who don't want kids, should not be parents. That's it. But that doesn't mean that when you find out you got someone pregnant and you don't wanna be a father you, you force the woman to abort the child and if she doesn't want to, you just straight up leave, ghost her, never see your child in your life, never send a single penny for childsupport and just continue living your life like nothing happened and pretend like all that is okay. You don't have to be a fulltime father if you don't want to but don't be an asshole about it or at least send the mom some money for child support bcs it's not JUST HER but YOU sir contributed to the creation of this child just as much.
So like, I agree with you but that's a conversation for another day 😅
that “Hail Mary” shit was fucking disgusting
omfggg seriously. i cant believe some ppl have this disgusting mindset.
He explained that so horrible, i still don't know what it is
It’s also so sick how everyone just laughed at it! I honestly hope this is the beginning of a long list of judgments for these men!
@@user-fg7cd2ci9lhe gets girls pregnant, makes them abort it, takes them to McDonald’s, gives them a sob story then never sees them again
@@laurely6998I’ve seen the video clip. Not everyone laughed. Some of the women were shocked. One guy they had on that specific episode walked away. I don’t know if he came back.
The worst thing that has happened is catering to men’s fantasies by acting like you can separate sex from pregnancy. I still believe in abortion rights because we currently live in a world where women pay a heavy price by getting pregnant in a world where mothers are not supported, however teaching people that it’s ok to constantly engage in promiscuity is horrible. And it especially harms women and children the most.
Facts.. the direct sufferers of the sun whether or not it was their “fault”. Although men often experience regret from abortion too so it’s not unheard of, even if the man initially wanted it so often regret it after the fact and never want to do it again.
I agree, I also get tired of hearing excuses for not using protection too. I don't know when this started rising, but people keep saying "sometimes protection doesn't work!" So that means you shouldn't use it at all? If that's the case, you shouldn't have s3x unless you want a kid. They literally go hand in hand.
Don't sleep with anyone randomly. Let him pursue you. Your body is way more spacial than you think. Girl, don't let any damaged disgusting man just access your precious body. Love you!
🫶🏾🫶🏾🫶🏾
Good advice!
Who knew sleeping with a misogynist could turn out badly? 🙄
Yes. She knew this and wanted the attention bc if he wasn’t famous she’d never look twice at that goblin creature
@@user_7239 You shouldn't talk about Gollum that way.
@@CoffeeMate-mu6ng ikr lol. At least Gollum has some shame
It's terrible. Poor kid.
Timon and Pumba would never! They actually raised a lion baby, that wasn't even theirs. They're better than those deadbeat baby daddies.
Agreed 💯
I can't believe what they did to Timon and Pumba legacy with that podcast.
How can a man be a deadbeat if he's not even responsible for the decision to carry a pregnancy through or not? If he doesn't want it then it's on the woman since choice=responsibility.
@@sunfish4095the man chose to have unprotected sex, knowing it may result in pregnancy. He also made his choice and it was a very relevant one. Think of it from this perspective.
The 'just take a pill' guys are also the 'legacy!' guys.
Yep! It’s just a pill until they find a woman that they always want to have their hooks in. Then the ✨legacy✨comes into play and it’s blasphemy.
That’s literally what my ex sneaky link did. Made me have an abortion but his current gf? He let her have the baby. He didn’t want a legacy with me. He wanted one with her.
Lol so true! First they act like taking a pill is nothing, and then they cry that they can’t find an available beautiful woman to carry their legacy😭Like the legacy of what, and old dirty couch and a PS3 or what?😂😭 Like he’s not worth having a child with. The AUDACITY
@@ryancrawford7048 consider yourself lucky here, now that girl has to deal with this terrible BBMLEM man for the rest of her life. God knows what he’s going to put her through in the future.
Lol my dad. If my mom had listened to him I wouldn't have existed. But when he crawled back into my life he started committing crimes on me bc im his "legacy"
I tried hookup culture. Yeah men don’t reciprocate pleasure if they’re not in love. They have no patience nor the desire to try.
They don’t love
Being in a bedroom, yours or his, with a strange man is the most dangerous thing you can do.
I love your username! 😂
While hookup culture was never for me, I thought of it as a vehicle for choice for women and saw it as a positive. Then I was disappointed in many women for becoming free sex workers for useless men, often getting pregnant and carrying on the loser lineage as single mothers.
The idea might have come from a place of liberation and choice but by being irresponsible and making BAD choices, hookup culture has become yet another tool for oppression of women.
To me, the sexual liberation was about using my sexuality to my advantage. My pleasure, my benefits, my choice. And still, many women participate in random hookups for no reason, cause most men can't even give them an orgasm.
I love Manifestelle for saying what I've been thinking all along. So glad I found this channel!
One of the side effects of liberation is that sometimes people will make poor choices. I think it's important for women to be wise, mature and educated before engaging in hook ups so they are able to advocate for themselves and their pleasure. I don't think hooking up is the issue, I think it just became a thing with out the necessary social education becoming a norm prior.
@@Dee_Dee216But people aren’t sometimes making bad choices in this instance. When it comes to hookup culture people are almost ALWAYS making bad choices. It’s also a public health hazard.
@LoveK1 Correction, the people you know are always making bad choices. I know people who do and people who don't. Just like there are people who make good and bad choices in all other dating dynamics, its all a matter of temperment and maturity. Also STD infection rates statistically tend to be higher among people who believe they are in committed relationships because they are less likely to use protection so it's not really a public health risk either.
@Dopaaamine27 Clearly you are not interested in having a conversation that is based in reality so I will just leave it at that
@Dopaaamine27 There are an endless array of online resources available to you if you truly wish to be educated but I will just say that saying "STD rates are low among people who have one life long partner" is like saying COVID infection rates are lower among agoraphobics because they rarely leave their homes. Sure this maybe true but it's not a realistic long term solution to a problem because most people leave their homes and interact with each other. There are several people who have casual sex and never catch STDs. There are few cases of people who truly have one sexual partner their whole lives. To present that as a prescribed way of living for everyone is unrealistic and pointless.
Hookup culture is soulless, and I mean that wholeheartedly. The only real purpose of a hookup is pleasure, and men don't even make an effort. I've been celibate since 2018 and I'm in no rush because I want an actual return on my physical and emotional investment before I bother with a man again.
I don't even want it. Turns out I'm demi not bi sexual. I'm so happy without a man why would I ever settle? Proud to say I've never even entertained the thought of downloading tinder or other dating sites. Why? So men can value me based on looks and short blurb? Nah they need to get to know me first and then maybe. Most people misjudge me anyway because I'm adhd/autistic and so not typical... "not like other girls" hahahaha 😅
Good for you!
I legit got singled out by my 3 college roommates and treated horribly by them because I wouldn’t participate in hookup culture. They would gang up on me and call me “lame” or tell me I was giving “you think you’re better than us vibes”. Meanwhile I’d tell them “can’t you see these frat boys dgaf about you. Their only mission is to get yall blackout, sleep with you, then bounce? Then brag to their buddies who all they slept with.” Then one night it happened… one of my roommates came home sobbing first thing in the morning saying she thought she was “drugged” at a frat house party and claimed she was r@ped by one of the head guys. Problem was she was so blackout she couldn’t 100% remember what happened and refused to report it even though I offered to go with her. She said she was worried people would find out and stop inviting her to parties. She eventually transferred universities. Ladies, don’t fall for it!! What you have is precious, and if you respect it and value it, you’ll find a guy that does too. Hookup culture is poison.
I pray every woman watching this is lifted up and her womb is protected!!!!!
This! We are goddesses and our bodies temples devoted to ourselves
Yes ❤
So he actually got her pregnant on purpose and has done this countless times. Now it has backfired on him this time because this woman won't get an abortion like the previous women.
You know, I'm shocked more women haven't come out and talked about Frick & Frack. I'm sure they've messed up a lot of women.
Who in their right mind would even become close to Frick and Foul?
Tbh with a man like him, why would it bother him? He knows damn well he won’t be involved in that poor babies life one bit
Haven’t watched the vid yet but he’s getting the women pregnant on purpose and asking for abortion??? That’s literally psychotic. Like serial killer
That man was Ignác Semmelweis. He was trying to save the lives of women in labor when he discovered it was unsanitary practices that were killing them. The other male doctors turned on him and treated him horribly.
If I recall correctly, the story is one of literal toxic masculinity: Doctors would come straight from the morgue to the labor&delivery ward without washing their hands because “a gentleman’s hands are never dirty.” Semmelweis noticed that maternal mortality rates were way, way lower at a nearby midwifery clinic than they were at his hospital and had an a-ha moment. But of course the other male doctors reeeeeeeeally loved believing that even their physical bodies were so privileged that death couldn’t possibly cling to their hands. 🤢🤮
@@polymathicaJesus!🤢
@@polymathica this is gross, the barber surgeons used to wipe their hands on their aprons because people thought that more bloody the apron the better you were at surgery.
He was never acknowledged for his discovery. He died in a mental hospital.
Just wait till you find out, why to this day women are pressured (sometimes downright forced) to give birth laying on their back - which is an unnatural position, that makes it harder for the baby to come out. And if you're not disgusted enough after that, google the term 'husband stitch'.
I don't participate in hookup culture. I really don't understand what's in it for me.
I did when I was broken 💔. I wish I could take it back, because I'm still not healed from the repercussions of my choices. I'm better now, older, but feel shame.
Multiple children from multiple fathers. That is the point of matriarchy.
I always felt the same and was wondering if there is something wrong with me
@@wxwxw8800no, something is right in you. That’s the spirit of God inside you not letting you make the very clearly bad decisions that most other women make and the refuse to take accountability for
Yeah, I couldn’t really wrap my head around hook up culture as well. If some people just want to have an outlet for their sexual identity and navigating their sexuality preferences, then by all means go for it. I, on the other hand was more worried about the whole unprotected sex part with strangers. Can never trust someone too easily… it’s just a recipe for disaster.
The Hail Mary was so sickening. Cancel that guy asap
Can I lnow what is hail mary please?
@@LadyEdenLibra 07:36 minute, in this part it's a short that said what is
I think we need to read the REAL stories behind Disney movies and fairy tales. That will teach us to be extra wary of men and the world in general.
Yes, this!!!!
All of those stories were cautionary tales and they are supposed to be symbolic but the modern mind is literal or rather, mainstream culture, is literal.
The story of sleeping beauty haunts me because of how brutal it is yet it’s necessary for everyone to read especially young girls
@@blueberrybabe4192 and she was awaken by motherhood, just like women wake up to harsh, great realities of life by motherhood itself. And when children understand the meaning behind those stories is when you know they stop being children and are entering adulthood.
@@paula_de_los_bosques2653 Wow, I never thought of it this way. Her getting awakened when her baby sucks on her thumb or something. But that was literally the awakening of women in those times, wasn't it? Even to a great extent, today. Whether it's the changes it brings in your bodies or minds, having a human being completely dependent on you, etc. Even with all the resources today, it's so hard, so I can only imagine how much more scarier it was for women then, and especially Snow White, who didn't have a whole community around her to guide her through it.
"When your liberation ends up being in service of men, that's still patriarchy" i need this on a poster, t shirt and a cap.
!!!
Hmmm I wonder how many single men out there boasting "never married no kids" just simply pressured the women to terminate the baby 🤔
That's a great question.
Sexual liberation is not just about the ability to say yes, but also about the ability to say no! Even when it "upsets" the other person. Even when there is social pressure. Nobody is untitled to our body.
And that applies to everything. Even in the context of a relationship - you don´t have to do practices that you are not comfortable with, you don´t have to agree with sex without condom, you don´t have to do anything. We are usually socialzed to be such people pleasers and it takes a lot to unlearn it.
GREAT POINT! The fact that many people still preach that husbands are entitled to their wives’ bodies is to me a sign that liberation never really happened.
@@artemisia4718 there are still a lot of men out there who believe the sole purpose of a relationship and marriage is s--. They don't see it as a partnership or even a friendship. That type of arrangement sounds like a prison to me.
I’ve found saying “No.” Is usually far more empowering than “yes”. Fukk being a people pleaser to undeserving people who wouldn’t do the same for me, I come first.
As someone who has had 2 terminations, I fully agree with you!!! The debate ignores that both A) it is often traumatic for the woman do go through termination and shouldn’t be taken lightly and B) most women who get terminations are ALREADY MOTHERS and know they are not prepared to have another child, which makes the decision harder and more painful. Instead women are framed as the psychopaths themselves for wanting the choice, and that it’s a bunch of childless women doing it. I know what it takes to have a child because I was already raising two. My husband has a vasectomy now, which honestly should be highly promoted by society, that would truly upend patriarchy.
I’ve had one termination and i wouldn’t say it’s traumatic compared to anything else I’ve been through. I don’t think about it everyday. And spiritually i believe that soul will come back when im ready to be a mother. But are there physical pains with abortion absolutely. And those aren’t talked about enough. Especially when we’re told to just take ibuprofen to get through some of the worst pain ever.
@@WarmSun_MGMthis in my experience its isn’t traumatizing but i was early. I wouldnt say its just a walk in the park but to call it traumatizing is crazy. But when one thinks her definition in life as a woman is to be a mother i can see how one could be bothered by that
@@WarmSun_MGMand see my dr gave me stronger meds, no ibuprofen so I literally just felt like a period to me.
merulaamethyst2248this!
@@Leila550 she said saying that is crazy. She did not call you crazy. “Is crazy” is a slang way of saying something is outlandish “out of pocket” “wild”. She literally isn’t saying anything about your mental health. And whatever doctor did a surgical abortion on you at 6 weeks is crazy (actual crazy, not just out of pocket this time). It should’ve been a medical abortion which has way less risk and pain than surgical abortions. Surgical abortions can damage your uterus and cause permanent scaring.
I wonder how relevant Justin Timberlake might be to this conversation. We are now learning that he got Britney pregnant and didn't want to keep the baby. He also didn't want anyone to know what he did, so Britney went through a painful abortion. It's not good to only criticize women for getting abortions without also saying anything about the men getting them pregnant or pressuring them to get abortions. Why does the pro-life movement only criticize women, but not men.
Cause it's more about controlling women's bodies than safe babies.
They do I've come across heaps of articles and videos that argue that this benefits men and puts women at risk.
Honestly, the vast majority of hardcore pro-life advocates (especially the women) shame the men even more than the women for not stepping up and being a father.
They do criticize men for their behavior it just doesn’t get mentioned because it doesn’t bring in the clicks like focusing on women does. A pro life rally will focus on the adults responsibility. Half the stories that get shared are those about the men coercing the women to get abortions. It’s also worth mentioning the men who do that would not subscribe to taking responsibility any way so they won’t watch content that doesn’t absolve them from being psychopaths.
That is soo disgusting 🤮
I had 3 miscarriages, all the foetus died in the 8 weeks. My body got rid naturally of 2 of them but the last one I had to go to the gynecologist to get it removed or it would poison my body and trust me it was painful! Not only the mental pain of loosing 3 potential children but also physically. You don't play around dirty like this when you are in your right mind! Girl protect yourself at all costs! He wants a family with you, than he marries you first and then you wait a year or two to see how he behaves and than maybe you can think about getting children! Don't get pregnant before!! These men don't give a shit about you and your babies! Love yourself more ❤❤
You absolutely right ❤ wish you the best
When you bust out the toys and tell him "I come first or you don't come at all, and that's just the way it is.
Take it or leave it“😂😂😂
This is genius! I needed to hear that a year ago. Well, better late then never! ❤ thank you!
Oh I should've adopted that philosophy 20 something years ago but... Still better late than never!! 😂
Yes!!! Exactly, and anything else should be considered weird I had sex exclusively with women during 17 years. Both finished every time. Now I started dating men, and there's no way I will go back to "being lucky" if I get to finish. Nope.
I agree with the sentiment but only if the man has shown enough worth to lay with us. If not it's very dangerous to make demands in such a position of vulnerability with someone probably physically stronger than us.
F&F
aka
TIMONE & PUMBA
😂😂😂😂😂
I’ve never agreed with hookup culture……
I don't think most women signed up for this.....but the sl*t shaming is a popular topic
I found this out a while ago - Hookup Culture is Psychopathic.
it's only beneficial to males anyways
Jordan Peterson also said this about individuals who continue to only have one night stands as psychopathic since it is just about discarding and abusing someone.
Edit: "All one-night-stand-people are psychopathic." - jordan peterson
@@basicinfo2022he has to be checked too. Something feels off with that man and I can't put a name,reason what it is...yet his rehearsed crying science as an attempt to signal empathy makes me 🤮 😂
@@basicinfo2022 Jordan Peterson makes it too absolute to individuals which I find concerning considering he’s a ‘psychologist’ to say that in general hook up culture comes off as psychopathic is different than saying anyone who has one night stands is psychopathic. It’s not taking the time to look into why individuals behave the way they do whereas taking on the broader topic like Elle does and breaking down where it comes from and what’s driving it is a much better way to broach the topic. If you just tell people they’re psychopaths for having one night stands they will never care to listen to you, nor should they.
@cady__ he goes more in-depth about it in the youtube video, that quote is just a snippet. I think he went on to say if your sx life is only one night stands then you're not enjoying the act but enjoying discarding the other person after since usually the first time with someone is awkward and brief.
When she hits us with the “Do you get it now?” My brain gains 50 new brain cells and my estranged neuropathic pathways reconnect.
I personally think my situationship was the best thing to have ever happened to me. Served me right for being that delusional and letting a broke BBLM access me. Now I'm gonna sleep with one eye open at night and also I firmly adhere to "unless you give me that ring, you mean nothing to me sorry".
(I finally get why elle keeps saying no nuance nellies this, no nuance nellies that. Cause some of y'all really said no nuance while reading this comment 😭)
cfayek you wrote that and didn't think for once, why am I asking a random woman her life goals and decisions and it's showing. Normalise not asking strangers personal questions. Pls.
U go girl
Good for u ❤
Never let them get access to you if there is no commitment
@@bippityboop You wrote a public comment about a private situation and then when someone asks you for an explanation, you scold them for asking a random women about her private situation?
It is sickening how they are laughing at the termination of their own children. The men are laughing and laughing like it is a joke. It is narcissistic behavior and yes psychopathic also.
Yes. Because I shared information I was comfortable sharing in a channel where making men take accountability is talked about all the time, it's not such a personal statement. Infact it's not v different from what the host says a lot of the times.
Asking me personally why I want marriage is a topic that involves only my perspective and desires. So not okay.
"Broken men breaking others so they don't have to feel alone in their brokenness" feels like a poetic way to summarize 80% of my relationships. Its sad that so many men choose to hurt others instead of seeking community with those who are hurt.
(Luckily, I'm better at choosing people now and we're both choosing to heal together rather than hurt each other ❤)
Andrew Tate and all of them!
100% correct about hookup culture being psychopathic.
I rejected the whole Friends with benefits thing since the first time I heard it. It is not in my vocabulary, I still cringe when I hear it.
😂oh I know, it’s not even friends… just ‘benefits’
@@SweetSunrisingbenefits for the male, sure, but there is no benefit for the woman in that arrangement. Just risk of catching an STD.
yes, i did the same when i heard the non virgin thing until marriage.
@@bluemoon4944 indeed we don't enjoy sex as much
It is cringe indeed
Bestie, same!
I've been telling this for so long! I'm always met as a little prude simpleton that can't relax. Like bro I'm not a prude because I don't want to seek people online to have sex or to jump in bed with whoever. I need true connection to have intimacy with someone, it's not weird, it's not bigotted, it's my fcking choice and I'm not lowering my standards anymore.
I once was called purde by a guy that I met on a dating app who was asking why I don’t flirt with him. And we never even met in real life so why should I? I’m not into something casual and I wanna get to know someone slowly.
And then he told me I need to show sexual interest online 🤦🏼♀️
"I'm not prude, I'm just highly selective. I mean, you see how picky I am about my shoes and they only go on my feet." Cher, Clueless.
That's totally valid. I don't get why people feel the need to pressure people into doing things that don't feel right to them. For me personally, I don't need or even want that type of connection most of the time, and people have tried to shame me for it in the past.
I have a friend who's aroace, in highschool she was peer-pressured by shitty friends to try and date someone, being super toxic about it even though she had continually expressed her desire to not be involved romantically with anyone. As well as tell her she was stuck-up and a prude and terrible things because she refused to drink with them too (she also has a history of trauma linked with drinking).
aka demisexual
Saying someone looks like they "snuck onto earth" is a monumental insult. Incredible
I got kicked out of a Facebook group that was supposedly to support women by telling a woman who wanted to hookup that she shouldn’t do it especially after her expressing she had little self confidence 😢
For women *
* until it inconviences men
Smh
Same girl. The girlies are lost
You gotta be in the right headspace to hookup. I don't do casual sex after breakups, mental issues going on.
@@Gabster1990that’s like when people say “you gotta be in the right mental space to do drugs.” Maybe you just shouldn’t do them and find something valuable instead of letting yourself be treated like a toilet.
It’s also very interesting how misogyny contains psychopathic and narcissistic traits…
This is what I think some people don't understand about being pro choice. Being pro choice isn't pro death. Being pro choice is also having the choice to keep the baby, to have control over your own body. It's necessary for women to have rights over their own bodies. It's interesting hearing someone else talk about this.
Sadly sometimes even in nature mothers have to eat their young in unfavorable conditions. Both stances of either forcing pregnancy or considering it willy-nilly deal are dehumanizing as it takes a lot of thought and guts of either being or not being a mother. She is expected to be primary caretaker after all. It usually takes baby in the consideration first. Sometimes it's better to save that pour soul from unloved, malnourished, impoverished existence. Making an informed choice (either way) is more mature than bending to whims of men and (anti) society governed by them that will mock you for either choice.
Just like abortion is a painful and complicated choice, so is parenthood. The way ppl talk about abortion getting is like getting a belly button pierced is just insane. No one ever thinks about maternal mortality or the cost of childcare (especially in the u.s.) or the time it takes to raise a child.
Exactly! I have multiple friends who did not want to have abortions in similar situations as Daisy, and I supported them every step of the way. Pro choice means supporting whatever choice someone makes not forcing a choice onto them.
So glad more people are supporting women to make the choice not have people force one on them 🙏🏽
Pro choice? The child did not choose to be born 😢 why does everyone only think about the mother? I don't think that an Instagram model who has an onlyfans by choice will be able to educate her child about boundries and stranger danger, about world history and economics and most important finance, about health and fitness...
It's not like I judge s*x workers. I don't. There are plenty of women in Bangladesh who are forced to sell their bodies for raising their children. However, the problem comes when women willingly do it despite having options.
Imagine the child's future, what if his classmates found about his mother's onlyfans? What about when the model turns old and her breasts start sagging and she is no more attractive, how is she going to earn? Dependant on the child, who did not choose to be born?
@@rahiscreationsfinally someone says about it.
Louise Perry wrote a book called 'The Case Against the Sexual Revolution,' in which she argues against hookup culture, saying that it is detrimental to the interests of women. I recommend it to anyone interested in the issue, since the book is very well-researched.
Additionally, a few months ago, Perry participated in a debate on whether the sexual revolution has been good or bad for women. The title of the video is 'Has the Sexual Revolution Failed?' on the Free Press channel. Maybe it is a good starting point to hear the arguments (though it became one-sided quickly, as only Perry was left arguing against).
I would really want this to be disscussed more.
That book changed my life for the better. Thank you for mentioning it.
To me it's like the Right to Die movement (which advocates for old or sick people to take their own lives legally). While choice is a good thing, when the expectation of society shifts to view women as sexually available 24/7, then the choice is removed as women feel intense pressure to conform to men's sexual expectations. Imagine being old or sick and feeling that everyone expects you to actively end your own life. It;s the shift in expectation and entitlement which is so dangerous.
@@ninamartin1084Similarly, the "right of sex workers" has been creeping into "disabled and autistic men have a right to sex." Insidious.
@@ninamartin1084 yess, that's exactly Perry's point in many of her interviews. Hearing her talking about that was so healing to me, because before that I just felt that societal pressure to not be "prude", and behave in a certain way.
What did change after sexual revolution was this understanding of sex as non-consequential, so why would you abstain from having it? And at least the dominant pop culture does not really provide arguments for wanting to abstain. All of this creates a certain kind of pressure.
@@briskettacosexactly ! This " right to sex" movement is just " right to buy women's bodies" rebranded
Not only this man but also those who get married have children but never become responsible.
Jordan Peterson was literally talking about it in multiple videos. In order to be able to sleep with new people on a constant basis, one has to prioritise instant gratification, which is primary criminal behaviour. This results in people shutting off their ability to bond emotionally, which is ding ding ding, a trait of psychopaths. How this might not be clear to sane grown-ups is beyond my understanding. but even if we don't look at it from a psychological perspective, but just use life wisdom, it is one of the golden rules - whatever we get easily, we lose it just as easily
I have a Reddit conversation saved on my phone, it disturbed me so much I just had to screenshot it. Is a guy who works in the medicine field and had a discussion with someone. Basically theguy was saying how he has no issue lying to women to get them to agree to sleep with him. He then gets rid of them and feels no guilt. He does not “fear being the bad guy” and is fine with breaking women because his sexual needs matter too. Blows I can’t post the screenshots here. Is the stuff nightmares are made of.
This is basically every guy ever. I befriended a player type guy, and he really opened my eyes. They lie all the time, even to themselves. I took myself off the meat market long ago...
That sounds like a soulless animal but actual animals have souls. If we had a culture where other men would shame him for saying that (not women since our opinions to them don’t carry as much weight) you could change that, but they reinforce one another. It is though so depraved you wonder if this is that movie “they live” and most men aren’t human but rather something else inserted here to guarantee constant suffering and d eath. There’s bad women too but not in the same numbers.
There have been so many cases of guys slipping women the abortion pill without their consent too
@@C12341Men won't check each other. I told a guy about the 4B movement and he came to this channel to hear a bit about it and concluded that yes, 4B is the only way men will get their ish together.
@@pinkpugginzwhat?!😳
Liberation shouldn't come with a bunch of risks. Hooking up is not my idea of fun because I realize the risks outweigh any sort of benefits. Risks that harm women way more than men. Why do people feel like hooking up is fun in the first place? It's usually not about the schmegs. If they deal with their own boredom, loneliness and self-confidence issues first, they wouldn't want to do hookups.
I agree that we shouldn't try to be like men when it comes to schmegs. Women are on the high road, men are on the low road. Why would we follow those on the low road? Men don't even care about their own bodies. They toss their "seeds" left and right and don't even have self-respect to realize that it's capable of producing life and should be treated as sacred.
As women, we know our bodies are more sacred and we need to protect it.
I lived through purity culture, and I honestly think hookup culture is a backlash against it. I’ve known many young women that grew up with the purity culture teachings, who go on to have sex, and they all describe it the same way. It was like being flung from a sling shot. They don’t have any boundaries, and they don’t know how to advocate for themselves. Purity culture doesn’t really teach these kinds of things. A woman raised in this will either think of herself as a virgin, or on the menu. Hook up culture became a way that women were reclaiming their sexuality. I get that. I get that so many women were taught that their body should be saved to be used by a man, and she didn’t really have a say in that. There was no middle ground, where a couple would get to know each other, and then choose to have sex. It was a very restrictive system where some women had more value than others based on what had or had not been in her vagina. Often times there was no distinction between consensual and non-consensual sex, as both would devalue a woman. I watched so many very young women trapped in early marriages, where sex wasn’t much of a choice at that point, especially if they were religious. The religious narrative went from never have sex to now you have to have sex. It was a dark and twisted ideology. Many women coming out didn’t know how to have a normal healthy sexual relationship, because purity culture didn’t teach that. They saw hook ups as a way to reclaim their own sexuality. Perhaps it’s time to talk about what a healthy sexual relationship looks like, and how to set boundaries.
Could you explain a bit more about “Think herself a virgin”. I’ve never seen it put into that expression. 😮
This is such an excellent comment. You're right on the money. Nobody every talks about the middle road. We need to discuss this more.
Yes this is so important!!!
Well said!!
@@tikclicktok958 for many young women in purity culture, virginity became part of their identity. There were purity rings, purity pledges, purity balls, etc. I remember one young woman talking about if she wasn’t a virgin then she wouldn’t have anything else to offer.
As someone who did participate in hookup culture for only 3 months. The only pro was it made me feel empowered (considering my previous abusive relationship) but that shouldn’t come from sex anyway. I never suffered from it, but that’s because I was A. Never allowing sex to make me delulu (I wouldn't consciously sleep with men that I decided I would NEVER want to be with, if they were super clingy or overtly emotional from the get-go, that was a red flag for me). B. I was absolutely watching my cycle, on the pill AND making sure they wrapped it up C. I was vetting these men first and not sleeping immediately, if they were impatient then I ghosted them D. I realised fairly quickly that it was a shit culture to even participate in. I wasn’t fed the short end of the stick but it got me paranoid about STIs and HPV (negative, squeaky clean baby!) but imagine falling PREGNANT?! NOPE. When I actually found the ONE, we did not do any sexual for MONTHSSS because he told me that if it’s meant to be then it’ll happen eventually, no need to rush. He wasn’t desperate and neither was I. 4.5 years later - were organising our honeymoon.
@@MA-gu2upbeing in full control of her own body and choosing her mode of pleasure with person of her choice. instead of succumbing to other person’s demands, she called the shots.
I love this comment, thanks for posting it. The flings I've had have been amazing and sexy as hell. I walked away feeling like a siren because I made sure to have my fun with men who made it clear that my pleasure would come first. I also knew that I'd be saying goodbye to them soon after (although they usually wanted to see me again), so I didn't have some pie in the sky dream that he'd want to be my man! I just stayed in the present and kept my focus on getting what I wanted - the intimate company of a safe man who wanted to make me feel good. It was indeed empowering to co-create a good, safe, enjoyable experience with an attractive man. It also helps that I met them in controlled environments (trade events, conventions, etc). Anyway, thanks for your comment, it was great.
This sounds very trashy to me. Glad you got out of that. Don't act like a stupid man just because you can.
@@MA-gu2up I felt it was empowering, again based on how I came from an abusive relationship where I as a human felt owned. Its difficult for anyone else to understand because its based on personal experiences. I'm not selling it, but I am saying...at the time it was. Now, it wouldn't be. I've grown respect for myself and learnt that my true empowerment comes from how I perceive myself. But it felt powerful being able to call the shots over my own body, for once.
Agree. I had a very short season (like 4-5 months) when I was 22 where I hooked up with a few guys. It was fabulous! I really enjoyed that empowered, flirtatious era. Then I met my now-husband and I just knew he was the one. There’s no comparison, marriage is amazing. I think if you approach hookup culture with thoughtfulness and self-respect it can be empowering. Sex isn’t something women give men as a reward, it’s a mutual experience.
I feel a deep betrayal in regards to men and relationships. I feel like many of us were groomed through Disney, movies romance novels… it’s all a lie. I am deeply disappointed and want nothing to do with men anymore. I’m grateful to this channel though and I wish something like this was around when I was dating. Maybe I could’ve navigated through alittle easier and not gotten hurt as much. I’m glad women are waking up.
I agree. There's a lot of false programming when it comes to relationships.
I'm glad also. As a man I never understood why women were so bitter and angry so I stopped interacting with them completely. It's the degenerate post cultural revolution that is making them so unhappy. Hope for a better future for humanity though.
As a teacher in a vocational boarding school where i had access to very intimate moments of the life of students, i've seen this happen so much to so many young girls it breaks my heart.
And I've seen terrifying behavior from male students, I remember one of them straight up telling me "If she keeps it I'll probably hurt the baby or kill it". He was calling her every day screaming at her to abort... And then back at the club sleeping unprotected every weekend.
Yikes, that kid sounds like a nightmare. I shudder to think how horrible he'll act as a full grown man. 😮
Hookup culture always screamed “you’ve been duped!” I couldn’t wrap my head around women believing they were benefiting when they didn’t even enjoy it and so often were crying over not getting what they wanted. I’m glad women are learning and respecting themselves and their value in the world!
I’ve always felt participating in hookup culture was a form of self harm for women. I’m glad women are waking up to this. When I was in college 15 years ago, the college was pushing “safe s£x” yet I kept hearing my peers talk about being abused by random men during sex even if it was “safe” (use of condoms).
I wish I knew this back when I was in uni. It broke my heart when I found out my best friend at the time woke up in some guys bed. He was a guy who was 'after her' since first year and it happened in 3rd year. She didn't remember a thing, she always told me she would never go for him, he was like a 2, but was a major creep 😢 That was when I realised we were never safe in that culture, especially when drink is brought into the equation.
Now we're pathologizing a woman choosing to participate in non-committal sex? That's nothing but shaming and extremism. This ain't it.
One part of hook up culture not talked about with enough honesty is the motivation for female participation is often problematic. A lot of women suffer from self worth issues, especially when it comes to their ability to perceive their own potential desirability, thusly causing major anxieties about whether or not they’ll ever have a man want them enough to date/marry them, which can motivate women into partaking in a hook up culture just to acquire the validation of being chosen by a man.
The hookup relieves their immediate anxieties and fears, but it often devolves into an unhealthy dependency on hookup culture for this validation.
Additionally, women are more prone to indirect forms of self harm or passive su*cide ideation, a lot of women who hate themselves enable others to harm them, use them, dehumanise them, etc and participation in hookup culture can sometimes be this kind of indirect method of self harm. It’s as much self punishment as it is a twisted way to validate their distorted self perception as “correct” and further justify exposing themselves to harm.
Of course, not all self harm is done out of self hate, another general motivation for self harm can be to try and break through an agonising feeling of numbness, while physical harm is a maladaptive strategy some people use to try and feel something, sex is also another maladaptive strategy, which again, can be a motivation for hookup culture participation.
I know one shouldn’t extrapolate a universal truth out of only anecdotes, but out of all my friends (predominantly female but a few male friends too) that have participated in hookup culture, it was always related to these individuals having a very dark and self destructive, no one who serially participated were just enacting their right to sex positivity and having a good time. I’m genuinely concerned this is the case for a lot of the young women participating in hookup culture too 😔
Very true
Spot on.
I think this is the wisest comment I've ever seen on UA-cam!
Excellent comment
This 1000000% its how i fell into the addiction of it
2024 is the year od everything coming to the light and I am loving it
I blame Sex in the City for pushing this idea.
“All children are wanted but not every woman has the privilege of wanting” 🤯
I don't think every woman wants to have children.... but there are great many women who had to make a choice they would have rather not because they did not have the privilege.
Pumbaa don’t deserve that type of insult 😩
Yes
I know several women In my family who never forgot about the abortions they had . It’s trauma while for the psychopathic man , is “just a pill “
,”just a doctor’s appointment “.
This man is so sick, I pray to God that this is only the beginning for his judgment.
🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
* The nuance of being fanatically pro-choice, while being extremely grateful to never have been in the position to have to choose. *
Gold ❤
This
Me too!!!!!
I was ready for this conversation since 2017 when my younger cousin stopped talking to me because I don't get her. She d come to me tell me all the destructive things she is doing to herself and expect me to agree to everything . No one wanted to hear me out on this. Men who pursue this hedonistic life are gaslighters, they want to consume and toss women aside. They don't have morals, they have no issue questioning morals as a concept. It's nihilistic hedonism, nothing has meaning and there are no values for these men. Meaning comes from purpose, order, harmony, understanding and community. Without such life is empty. I am also disappointed in my cousin, I used to consider her my close friend, then she started making fun of my conservative upbringing and tell me to loosen up and have public sex while being watched. I also had friends that turned up to be just guys seeing me as a dumb bitch. When I realised they were just looking for casual and gaslighting me I avoided them . It s been 1.5 years. I am disappointed in people.
I’m sorry to hear that 😔 I don’t consider myself conservative in general, but when it comes to who I allow in my personal space, how I date I’ve been called ‘conservative’. In reality I’ve learned to respect my body, peace and value who I am and not let men use me. I have friends who have different lifestyles still where we agree to disagree but still respect others difference choices.
I’m sorry you’re younger cousin stopped speaking with you because it sounds like you are truly just looking out for her best interests. Don’t give up on finding people who will be able to either agree or agree to disagree on lifestyle. They really are out there. Wishing you the best ✨
It’s going to be alright. Thank you for sticking to your values. Some humans get it and some do not. Don’t fall into temptation. Everything you said is true
You were the smart one all along, fooling you wasn't easy.. You saw between those details, I am so thankful to have a strict mother ❤
Typical matrix worker. It's good that you distanced yourself.
It's okay ❤ this is not because we are old fashion or something. This is just common sense ❤😊
I can't imagine not having the capacity for empathy. Especially when you are the cause of someone's pain. Stop giving these creatures access to your body.
It's a culture? I always thought that was crap. It's wishful thinking that such a person will truly fall in eternal love with you. Those are not high quality persons.
It’s not a huge culture, as statistically most people aren’t engaging in hook up culture. But it’s an issue out there though, so it’s good for people to discuss
I agree. A lot of this stems from the belief that sex means a man loves you and has intentions to stick around. It doesn't. It's a natural body function that you have to actively control and monitor. People need to face the truth and take sex for exactly what it is. The bare minimum for sussing out a psycho user like Mr. Hail Mary (sickening, just sickening) is to ask yourself honestly, "If I never had sex with this man, would I be friends with him? Can I be friends with him if I don't get what I want when this is done?" If the answer is no, then don't have sex! If it's yes, then go from there and do what you like! But then again, I'm a sex-neutral Xennial who's never connected sex with love, so I dunno. 🤷🏽♀️ Maybe it's my Aquarius moon, lol.
When I was younger I actually bought into the concept of hook-up culture because I didn't understand how sex worked. For me it was something to be enjoyed together without taboo and without being restricted by your gender.
But experience has taught me dex with a man wasn't an "equal" experience, not with the physical pleasure, nor with the power dynamic or the social dynamic.
Exactly! Just over 40% women orgasm from sex with long term partners. Less than 10% from ONS. Whereas 89% orgasm from self pleasure. Numbers don’t lie, seriously.
@@AI-ch3if just google it.
@@AI-ch3if wise move- the self-pleasure involves lust which ]esus said is a type if /-\dultery
That guy talking about the "hail mary" bs baffled me, I can't believe men are admitting to inhumane things they've done online and laughing about it, I hope he gets sued and they use that tape as evidence
And they keep saying that W are priviledge, but it's the M that are.
Clearly.
Unpopular opinion: My situationships were actually good for me. Because they were good men who treated me wayyyyy better than any of my exes. So I learned that, hey, if this random person who has no stakes in this actually treats me so good, then i should expect my future partner to treat me even better
ive always thought this, why is our “liberation” just appealing to men? why does it always come back to that and i hate that people are just falling for it..
Psychopathic is EXACTLY the word my guy bestie used to describe it (yes I have ONE he calls himself my chosen little brother and he’s the only one I’ll ever have.) He had to text me for advice when he thought he had something deeper with this girl and she just used him for a NewYears Eve hookup, he was so upset. I felt so terrible for him. Why don’t people who like hookups just go for each other?? Does it thrill them to manipulate someone who wants a relationship??? He told her that going into it!!
This is what’s so strange. When I was younger and did hookups I was always open about my expectations and desires. And yet guys would still try to make it wierd or get the upper hand or accuse of playing games.
It’s like for a lot of them, they like the manipulation aspect. That’s what I think. I think some people enjoy manipulating and hurting people but don’t want to deal with the consequences, so those people use hookup culture to harm people quickly and then disappear. They get off on lying and “getting away” with it.
I'm glad he has you to vent to about it. That's the kind of girlie pop that ruins it for the rest of us. They will hold on to that one little heartbreak FOR LIFE.
@@DaughterofDiogenes right? When you say you just want a casual thing they do anything and everything to pursue and convince you for a relationship. And when you start investing then they discard you 😃
They just like manipulating, they really are sick.
@DaughterofDiogenes alot of them like the conquest. So they manipulate to get what they want then once they do the deed, it's like this big thrill that they've won. They can boost to their friends and carry on to the next one. It's sad, because it isn't reating the other like a human being especially if they know the other person was going into it with feelings and expectations. It's really evil psychopathic behaviour, probs even narcissistic too, as they only favour themselves as important, the main character in their little game. Vile.
I was and will always be upfront about my intentions on dating apps + in person
I have no idea why everyone isn't.
The only winners from hook-up culture are a small group of very attractive men.
Everyone else lost. This, arguably, is the worst result of feminism.
Yet women continue to push it. It’s comical
Most people are psychopathic these days and I can’t trust anybody. I’m glad we have your safe space to diss these piss poor people.
as someone who got wrapped up in hookup culture for a couple of months, yeah. it's no shock that i got in it when i was feeling my worst and was still relying on male validation to make myself feel better. you really do become disconnected to yourself and as a woman you receive all the risks and little to no reward. hookup culture is not the move, prioritizing yourself and fulfilling relationships is though. i like to say i had to hit rock bottom to realize i needed to love myself and fully de-center men as the focus of my life. remember, you owe men nothing!
@@chronometer9931 The only attention you'll be getting here is probably my reply. I know you lack energy/attention from women, but you certainly won't get much of it here. Best of luck.
If it weren’t for birth control I’d be screwed. My 20’s were so cringe
SAME😂😂😂
All I can say is: FINALLY.
Hook up culture isn't liberating for women. Sex shouldn't be without emotion, bonding & at least having gotten to know each other.
That's not what a majority of people want.
And recognizing & valuing life doesn't mean that we can't still recognize the necessity of legal, accessible abortion.
It is okay to feel & recognize that loss if you have to make a difficult decision.
Of course the people who are pro life do plenty of completely morally inconsistent things- it would be nice if they actually valued life more consistently, rather than using it as a cover to control women.
“You’re still property !!” 😂I burst out laughing but I’m so impressed on how you speak clearly the truth and the thoughts I have sometimes cause that means I’m not the only one seeing these bs and strategies against women.
They say it’s not a baby so men can get away from responsibility. Thank you for speaking up. Men have failed.
They started failing in the 1960s when they started cheating on their wives and glamorizing playboys. But that’s where consumerism brings you
As a former sex worker, I never accepted free sex... never.
I don't ever recommend anyone becoming a sex worker.. but at least i know I was used... and I got paid for it. Some men where actually quite nice. But there was always an understanding that they were looking for a service and that I provided that, for a price. I stopped because of the constant fear of abuse and fear of stigma. But I never understood hook up culture for that very reason. Why give it away if you can ask money...? I know I make this sound easy, but it was not. So please, from a former sex worker. Don't engange in casual sex, pair or unpaid. Only if a man makes your life much much better... you can consider. Otherwise, it's not worth it.
Bestie… the work you are doing is invaluable. Please start a members only or something. Would love to join for additional content. Plus, you deserve that BAGG! You have been more effective in de-programming me than years of therapy. ❤ Thank you!
Same here! I wish this channel had existed when I was 15. The shit I’ve gone through over the past 38 years never would have happened if I could have listened to my current UA-cam subscriptions back then. If you’re a teen pickmeisha reading this: Please take what Manifestelle says to heart; it will save you so much pain and derailment!
@@polymathica 36 here. No one ever taught me my own value. The value intrinsic to being a woman. The fact that our presence amplifies & multiplies. And that we truly are the lucky charm. After building up several men*… it was Estelle’s content that poked me in the eyes and showed me how mere access to me was setting them up for life. I also realised that most of the humans who pour into me are women! Developed new respect for us queens. I could go on & on & on. This should be required reading/listening for all girls & women.
While hilarious, how dare you besmirch the good names of Timon and Pumbaa 😄
@@polymathica this!! It physically pains me thinking about the mistakes I made when I was younger because I didn’t have role models like Elle or content like this. I learned everything I knew from TV and the internet during the “boss babe, sexual revolution era” little did I know that this was a harmful agenda pushed by the patriarchy and Hollywood creeps. And it did harm me emotionally and spiritually
Hook up culture is insane! I’m always baffled when my girlfriends say they took advantage of the men using them for sex and dinner, when in reality those men took their dignity and virtue.
Nope your gifs did take advantage of them. Stop infantilizing women.
There are benefits to being every mans woman or one mans woman but the choice needs to be made early on because once you become like these friends of yours the chances of being able to form an emotional loving bond with a man are then slim to none. It changes you.
Um no. Those men wanted to seek a relationship with your girlfriends via a date but the girls took advantage of the men. Do not infantilize women.
I remember how the shift from ‘do not meet people online irl unless you bring friends and meet in a public place’ to ‘meet this person on a dating app youve chatted with for a day’ happened literally overnight.... jesus...
I think of that Fresh and Fit guy who got a girl pregnant (apparently more than 1 girl too) and got exposed for telling her to go get an abortion. He was exposed for being a hypocrite and not following the own advice he gives to his followers. These hook-up men say they want a girl with a low body count, but then get mad when you reject them. The cognitive dissonance.
Low body count for wife.
This video was what I was looking for! Being 'sex positive' is talking about sex without shame and prejudice, while 'hookup culture' is just banalizing the importance of sex, while bringing shame, prejudice and danger under the guise of liberation! Loved this video so much 😍 We are the prize, our bodies are temples that are being abused under the 'you are independent and you can do whatever you want!' while we are still being used!
This video reminded me why I chose celibacy, I will continue going strong 💪🏽
Utterly disgusting, true definition of #Psycopath and the hailmary is pure SIN, such men should be in jail, but no they are allowed to run free....
Think about the blasphemy in even calling it that. These dudes on demon time.
In my second year at uni when I tried to take part in the hookup culture I just ended up asking myself. How much must I hate myself to put myself throught this? It left me broken and I felt used even though I thought it was my choice, I chose to do it...But no, never again.
Patriarchy’s next campaign (me too backlash) is to convince us they are better at being women that we are, and that we are merely womb-owners and non men.
When they disguise themselves as women, their competitiveness and resentment give them away.
Yes, and by trying to deconstruct the very thing that unites us, our sexual characteristics
THANK YOU!!! I’ve been trying to talk about this but platforms always want to censor it. They’re so envious of our power that they want to try to possess it themselves. I still can’t believe how many men have accepted them saying they’re one of us or that they do it better!
True!
Yes and kick us out of our own spaces--including the bathroom.
Exactly. You can advocate for women having the sovereignty over their bodies while still admitting that ending a pregnancy is traumatic and painful. You can say a thousand times that it's just a clump of cells (and you might even be right in the strictest and most objective of senses) but that doesn't change the fact that it's still an extremely difficult and emotionally devastating decision to make. Even if you know that it's the right decision for you, it's never going to be just a casual "take a pill and everything is dandy" sort of situation.
Another day where i need to thank my parents for giving me so much self esteem that hookup situationship was always beneath my standards....
It’s not proven that she is an OF model. It’s important to not spread misinformation.
It doesn't really matter, does it? Even if she's an OF model, she doesn't deserve to be treated this way. It's not like an OF model is a murderer or something
@@xletragedyxright like s3x workers are still people
@@xletragedyxWhen women devalue themselves, they will be undervalued.
@@xletragedyxIf I ever do OF, I’m wearing a mask and making sure I have no identifiable features showing (tattoos, unique beauty marks, etc.). Nothing wrong with OFs, but women still need to protect themselves because of how crazy people (ahem, men) are about SW, even though they make up the majority of the market.
@@gem9535so hooking up is patriarchal but OF ain’t lmao
I have chills. This might be the one most precious message women of all ages need to hear. This needs to go viral. ❤
👏👏👏 "We will govern ourselves as we please, and we will recognize our pain as we please" 👏👏👏
Agreed! However, let's not overlook that women who didn't "hook up" but got married and did it "the right way" have not had much better outcomes! The common denominator is that anything you do with men is ultimately going to go south! 4B 4B 4B 4B 4B!!!!!!!!
EXACTLY. I tried to take all of the right moves when I dated my ex last year, then turned out he’s a disgusting jackass! MEN and how they are enabled& socialized are the issue!!
Actually, studies indicate that they do much better than their unmarried peers
lets stop saying men have seed. they have fertilizer. thats it. we have the seed, the egg, not them.
THANK YOU for this. THANK YOU for creating a safe space for women.
Quick story: was raised super religious with extremely strict rules and so on. Was not allowed to talk to boys, much less relate with them. My Dad is quite abusive so I've always had a father wound deeper than a well. And for many other reasons (not considered pretty, etc), I've never really experienced healthy male validation. I'm 28 and still a virgin (not because I have religious values). Anyway, it's something I feel very insecure about. I also grew up with a pretty sister who got all the compliments while I got none, have had conventionally pretty friends who would get all the attention and I would not get any, I've gone to clubs where guys would walk to my friends and ask for a dance but I rarely get asked for a dance. In fact, guys would walk up to me after being turned down by other women. Etc. Etc. And my dating experience - the matches I have on apps and men who approach me in real-life - just very low quality. And that is one of the reasons I haven't taken the plunge yet. So I have just harbored this deep sense of shame - feeling like I'm not beautiful or valuable enough to be desired.
Recently, I visited family in NY. We went to this club. People weren't dancing much at first. We started dancing. Soon people started joining in. Anyway, the only guys who approached me for a dance were one Arab guy who is about the worst dancer I've ever seen, his friend and a drunk guy. And they all wanted me to dance in just the specific way they wanted - pounding into me from the back. And I would indicate l didn't want that, and they would become forceful. They didn't handle me with care, and they were not touching me gently. I felt a sense of entitlement coming from them. That was almost two weeks ago but I still feel like shit from the experience. I've been reflecting on it and reminded myself that while I am open to exploring my sexuality and engaging with men, it has to be on my own terms and it has to be a quality experience. Otherwise I'd rather be a nun. The experience soured my NY trip but I learned something valuable.
This brings me to my thoughts on hookup culture. Given how men are so violent and think they are entitled to our bodies, I think hookup culture is incredibly unhelpful and is a scam. Because too many men are just low quality and would treat you like shit. If someone is going to treat me like shit, how is it liberating for me to engage with them, in the most intimate and vulnerable way possible? 🤔🥴🙄 To each their own but Manifestelle put it perfectly, "if your liberation is still in service of men, it's not liberation. Just patriarchy rebranded (paraphrase)".
Great video, but government needs to stay out of the abortion issue, that is up to the woman, there are circumstances you can't imagine or understand.
That's why men have to pay to even talk to me.
@@chronometer9931 oh but they do